I'm a long time late here, but after trading in my sturdy and reliable 7D, my 7D Mk II just came today. Really looking forward to giving it a good workout. Along with my 1DX Mk III and 20D (not to mention my beloved original 300D that I've had for just about 20 years), plus some reasonably good glass, I'm really happy with my current kit. Since what I have will more than meet my needs for the indefinite future, I'm not concerned with moving to mirrorless.
@@The_Algorithm_ I love it! The pairing of that body (which is built like a tank) and the 24-105 lens is fantastic. When I go birding, I put my 100-400 on that camera and my Sigma 150-600C on the 1DX and things are in great shape.
Fantastic review Chris & Jordan. You two continue to push the boundaries of what it is to make quality, unbiased reviews, something that is often missing on youtube. Keep up the good work. Chris Winter
You have most beautiful looking video in months and guess what, it is done with 7D Mark II and you are actually talking about average image quality. Really guys? Please do not shoot some underexposed black object and than add +5EV in post to prove us how D3300 has better image quality. Why don't you go outside and take some three-dimensional color photos of something simple, like grass or sky and than try to show us how 7D Mark II has worse image quality than Nikon D3300. If you can. Also, just use that 70-200 at f2.8, please, do not be afraid. I am also surprised to hear comment about size and shape of the 7D grip. Still, amazing review, very informative, done with lot of effort and overall great production (not only because using Ronin). Well done!
TheCameraStoreTV Jordan, but you have used those cameras during a review. I agree with Branko here. I don't get the criticism when it is clearly your best looking work.
ejbernal2 I like the compositions and a few of the shots in the review, but when editing I was constantly fighting the soft image and low dynamic range. It's subjective, but I think the X100T, Sigma Quattro, D750 and Phantom 2 videos look much nicer. But I'm glad that everyone likes how this episode turned out! Jordan @ TCSTV
TheCameraStoreTV You just can't ignore colors that Canon camera produce. It is subjective, but everybody agrees about that. Immediately after I hit playback of this video I saw something better, more pleasant and then Chris said that you are using 7D2 for filming. Yes, dynamic range is not good on Canon DSLRs but it's not like it is much better on similar (DSLR) cameras. And second part of the problem and probably bigger regardless dynamic range is h264 compression combined with 4:2:0 which makes any color/exposure correction very hard. I am not defending Canon, I am just saying. But I have to defend Canon about "soft image." There are to many cameras with over sharpened videos that just are not pleasant. You have to remember that sharpness of digital sensors is big problem in movie industry. They just want image with less sharpness. If you use three digit ISOs you can make Canon DSLR footage sharp in post and it is not like every second you need amazing dynamic range, but it is very hard to replicate colors of Canon cameras and with compressed footage almost impossible.
I sorry but recovery in post when things go wrong matters. Also I don't know why everyone is saying this video looks good. Blow highlights everywhere with poor rolloff. While I think sometimes other videos on this channel come across a little to flat, this is the horrible opposite extreme.
A big part of the appeal of this camera are the great lenses that work so well with it, particularly the new 100-400mm II. It's an exceptional package. For pros, the combo of one of the 5D variants + 7DII will be a pretty compelling package. The 7D adds capability rather than just being a backup.
One note about the 1080p/60 mode you would have mentioned is it has limitations. You do NOT get the on-sensor phase detect AF, nor can you record in ALL-I. Pretty annoying for someone like me who likes 60 fps video, but it's a good camera so far (for me) so I won't complain too much.
@@ansari_kabeer even a old 5D (mark 1) is good for streetphotography if your budget is tight, one step up would be a 5d mark 2/3 or a 6D, no need for a powerhouse like the 7dm2 or 1d m3/m4/x they are for workhorses for sports/wildlife
Wow that is really good 720p video. Oh wait! That is 1080p. With 4K cameras now this just isn't going to cut it for video. The AF looks really good but the final product just isn't there.
Every camera has trade offs. For example, sure the Nikon D3300 has 4 extra megapixels but the 7D Mark ll has double the burst rate and get usable shots until ISO 12800. Maybe.
I purchased my first DSLR, a Pentax K-30, for a trip to Antarctica. I LOVE this sturdy camera and the wildlife photos I was able to take as a total rookie. However, I've reached its limits (especially when photographing birds) and want to move up. Here is my dilemma: Do I sell my K-30 body and buy a K-3 now (only a few hundred $ out of pocket), keeping my existing lenses _or_ do I save my $ for another year until I can finally buy into Canon's universe of lenses with the 7D Mark II? I guess what I am asking (being the impatient sort ), what features, beyond lens selection and availability, are significantly superior on the Canon 7D Mark II vs the Pentax K-3? Also, does Nikon have something in the pipes for wildlife photographers?
Aside from the more complete system, the 7D MK II has significantly better autofocus tracking and video quality. For my money, they K-3 has better image quality though. Jordan @ TCSTV
***** I don't think Pentax ever made an action camera that competed with something like the Canon 7D series or Nikon D300s. Pentax looks like it's really aiming at the Medium Format field and is looking to make Medium Format photography more affordable.
Thanks for all the comments gang. In the end I caved to my techno-lust, sold my K-30 and added a few hundred for the K-3. Love it! But do wish I had access to all the rental lenses in the Canon/Nikon world. May end up going multi-brand one day.
I love it how the cheapest Nikon APS-C DSLR has a better sensor the most expensive Canon APS-C DSLR. Kudos to Sony, who actually makes Nikon's sensors I suppose
Paul Hojda To be honest though, the advantage in picture IQ of Nikon's cheapest and Canon's most expensive, only apply with pictures taken in great light. Canon cameras will blow the cheap Nikons out of the water when it comes to shooting in low light, such as weddings, events, indoor sports. Still, Canon should take this as a problem that needs to be corrected. It shouldn't be making sensors that can't compete with the Nikon cheapie, especially at the price points they are selling these Canon Cameras.
I cant understand why you would review a camera like this taking street shot when the majority of buyers will be shooting wildlife. This is a great camera for that far ahead of it's competition. Go out and shoot something real for a change.. As far as sharpening set your camera up properly plus if you do shoot wildlife get a good L lens you don't have to get a 400 f/4 get a 100 - 400 or a 300mm f/4 that will be in the reach of most people. That's just my two cents ! LOL !
im looking for a good autofocus and the 7d Mk 2 is very appealing to me especially with the 10 fps cont. shooting, however your analysis on the low picture quality has turned me off a bit. is there a better Nikon alternative in the same price range? I like shooting sports and wildlife with compromising the image quality.
Saw your 80D review, I decided to check this old one out. I'm wondering which will be best for video work. The 7D Mk II have more focus points, less moire, better lowlight and a clean HDMI out. The 80D have articulating touch screen useful for focusing, sharper video (from comparisons I've seen) and WiFi which enables monitoring and tap focus pulling with app. Really torn between the two.
Somebody doesn't like convenience . So .... A Touchscreen doesn't help you get quick precise manual focus ? And smooth pull focus So .... Wifi doesn't help get your pics on your site or social media quicker ? So .... Turnable screen doesn't help you get shots that were very difficult w/o ?
Personally I think the word professional applies when we are getting professionally paid for a job, which comes at varying levels of requirements. We use tools that are necessary to achieve the requirements, and convenience and practicality are always welcome.
Hi Guys, Nice review. Not big on DSLR filmmaking ,but yes for stills. The 7d Mark II looks good and has some nice features. I shot the TV series "Bluff" in Calgary with a 5d Mark III. At first, I was hesitant, but loved the way it held up under low light conditions. Images were very clear and holds up in a larger format. The 7d Mark II as well as most of the Canons are great for TV. In terms of filmmaking, after seeing the Nikon's image clarity on your review, I am sold. I would rather get the sharpest image possible and dumb it down in post later or ad a filmic look. I am going to look at more comparisons on here. Keep up the good work!
I am watching the first review of yours and I must say this is the most comprehensive, informative and unbiased review of a camera Ive seen till date! Great going.. I agree with you on the IQ part, I recently upgraded from entry level to mid-range and I switched from a Canon 1100d to a Nikon d5300 just because I wasnt happy with the Canon sensors. Please take note Canon :(
Appreciate your to-the-point comments on the 7D MKII sensor. If the Sony APS-C 24mp sensor was in it it could be worth $1800. With the Canon sensor-I say $1200 max.
I still have my 7DII 4 years on and its been saturated with rain, salt spray, had a rough life in Aussie heat and cold yet still produces the goods. Yes the images can be soft in crap lighting but a little basic editing in lightroom and its fine. Its been a great partner to my 5DIII and as Im hearing there will be no 7D3 I think I will hang onto it. I've seen images in print taken by both the 7DII and the D500 and to be honest cant pick which camera took what, a lot has to do with the photographer and their editing skills, I will say that its a workhorse, not perfect but certainly never lets me down
So far, I would say yes. It's really knocking on the door of a 5D3 with some of its capabilities, but not quite there yet. Skin tones look amazing and accurate while the noise performance can work in most wedding environments. The honest truth is that at 10fps, I shot an event and let it do a 2-3 image burst for many shots - especially speaking people. You get home and throw them on the computer and see that one of the burst shots looks great and the others may have them with a weird expression or blinking. I see this as a real work benefit that surpasses the 5D3 for shooting an event/wedding. It it capable of possibly capturing a particular moment better.
BRENNAN'S TECH BITE Yes, if you buy 7D for sports and wildlife it will be very good for portraits and weddings, but 6D and 5D will be better. If you buy 6D or 5D for portraits and weddings, they can still take sport and wildlife photographs, but 7D will be better the more and faster the subject moves or the smaller or farther away the wildlife is.
GREAT REVIEW, DO U EDIT YOUR PHOTOS THAT YOU SHOW US IN YOUR REVIEWS ?, I mean do u edit them before you post them or do you leave them stock for the viewer to see ?
I got the 7D2 because it addressed specific issues I had with the 7D. Although I have used it for night photography, the main reason was for wildlife/bird photography. The almost silent shutter of the 7D2 has afforded me excellent '2nd' photos when the loud 7D shutter would have scared off the subject. As for the CR2/Raw files being soft: Well,with every variety of camera I personally have used I have had to do sharpening. Not a lot, but it seems to be the nature of the digital beast. I like pairing it with my L 100-400, or Sigma 150-500.
Great job guys! I liked the review. I have one question, is this a good camera for shooting a Wedding? What Canon Camera & Lenses do you guys recommend for shooting/ filming Weddings?
Don't you just love it when big youtubers present false information ? Because they don't understand basic things like the fact that Canon and Nikon are processing images differently and that can give the APPEARANCE of one having better dynamic range than the other. Canon is well known for having more contrast in their color profiles than Nikon has and that obviously cuts down on the APPARENT dynamic range contained in the images, because that affects the way you make your exposure in the first place. But if you understand this aspect then you can setup Canon cameras in such ways that you'll get more dynamic range out of the sensor, by simply dialing down the in-camera contrast at the time of the exposure. Then you'll see that in fact Canon and Nikon are neck in neck when it comes to dynamic range. Or for example load the Technicolor Cinestyle color profile on a Canon camera to see the real dynamic range the sensor is capable of and then compare it to any Nikon camera from the same category. Not only that it will match it, but most likely it will also surpass it. It is simply a myth that Nikon sensors have better dynamic range than Canon sensors, myth kept alive and promoted by people who fail to realize that when comparing two different systems you can't be possibly comparing the same exact luminosity/color science behind the raw files. It is simply a software issue, not a real hardware problem.
Aah buddy, you got it so wrong it isn't even funny. When shooting jpg then profiles have an affect, but when you shoot raw it has no affect whatsoever. Now I am no Nikon fanboy, I use canon exclusively and the 7dII is still to this day my go to camera, but it most certainly does have less dynamic range than competing Nikon cameras. No doubt about that.
@@TheXaelem You are dead wrong. Read my comment carefully. When shooting raw you check your histogram or your exposure meter, right ? And then you adjust your exposure settings accordingly, isn't it ? Well, the color profile you are using affects your contrast and because of this it also affects your exposure meter, so it can have an impact even when you are shooting raw. Because you are adjusting your exposure settings based on a color profile. So regardless if you are shooting raw or jpeg, the color profile will have a direct or an indirect impact on your dynamic range. I heard this argument 1000 times, that the color profile has no effect when shooting raw, but it definitely has, through exposure.
lightroom 5 is your friend when it comes to this camera, I totally agree with what you called "softness" which I consider out of focus, I have tested mine with a 300mm prime lens from Canon and I have had to take several images of the same subject in order to get a dead on sharp picture (shooting Raw). The landscape pictures I have taken with other canon lens also come out soft...but then again I'm being very critical and pixel diving on a 1:1 and even 1:2 ratio.
Jordan how did you keep focus when using the Ronin on that first shot? Did you just keep a deep enough aperture (lets say 5.6) and keep a certain distance from Chris?
Chris Winter By the way, thanks Chris. I performed a no-no. I commented well before finishing the whole video...where he mentions the same thing. :) Thanks again.
Hello all, I was hoping you could recommend a camera for me. Im planning on shooting mainly wildlife, landscape, macro, and some indoor/night photography. I'll also be taking the camera on vacations , trips and shooting family and friends. Video is not as important to me since I have a GoPro for that, but I would certainly like to be able to shoot with these cameras as well. I can't decide between the d7200, 7d mark ii, and sony a7 ii. Which of the three would you recommend for what Im planning on shooting? If there is a better alternative than the three I listed above please let me know. Keep up the reviews I really enjoy watching them!
Brian Michael Yep, i think so. Although they both have very similar Dual Pixel Autofocus systems, the 70d does still have an advantage (for video especially), in that it has a touch screen, allowing you to select exactly where you want it to focus, as well as having a swivelling screen which allows you to use it at different heights. Both great cameras though!
Jordan brilliant review was looking at purchasing the 7d i have Sony alpha camera at the moment and have no idea on the lenses to buy with the 7d. what lens was used to take the rugby pictures? Pls Help, i will be using to take rugby shots as well as family days out. Cheers Also this looks like the best DSLR for the money?
Nice review - tempted to get one for its weather sealed capability and autofocus. I can skip a generation though and use my 7d/5d2 combo. Or most likely scenario wait till the price crashes over time before I pick one up half price. I'm not an early adopter but good to hear the people who actually bought it, like it from comments so far.
As usual guys, phenomenal review. On another note, can you guys review the Sony A77II. It seems like a pretty compelling camera from the spec sheet alone, but from what Ive been able to gather it somehow disappoints.
Hi Guys, When you get a chance to do a compare video please do a Samsung NX1 vs the Canon 7D2. I'm a Canon user but I've never been temped to buy another camera system until I took a look at the specs of the NX1. Head to head... who wins!
I want to start getting into videography and am currently doing some research on what camera I should buy. I want to make car videos which would be composed of a lot of in car perspective shots as well as exterior tracking shots. It would primarily be filmed in daylight and include a lot of wide scenery clips, but I would still like to have a camera with lowlight capability. Any advice on a what camera I should get. It's a bit overwhelming right now as this kind of thing is a bit foreign to me. I'm currently looking at the the A7s and the Canon 60D and 70D. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I'm no video expert whatsoever. I only shoot stills, but even before the video got to Jordan's part, I instantly was able to see how soft the video was particularly when someone's face was in view, etc. At first I questioned whether the video was in 720p or something was wrong with my eyes. Just like Jordan said, no fine details.
I haven't tried the 7Dll, but from everything I have heard, your conclusion is the same as mine, i give Canon some credit for the auto focus system, and how the sensor works for live view and video, but this is 2014, and there is no excuse for the entry level Nikon to have better image quality as far as sharpness and dynamic range, there is also no excuse for a lack of a fully articulating touch screen, or wi fi, screw the ruggedness argument, it doesn't hold weight, also the 7Dll is to big and heavy, I am really hoping that Canon will put out something like the new Samsung NX1, and also a full frame version, and I am really hoping that Nikon also does, I switched from Nikon to Canon when I got my 5Dlll, but I have always missed having a Nikon, Nikon is part of me, and I wish they would put the D810 parts in a smaller and lighter camera, even smaller and lighter than the D750, but what I really hope is that Nikon will join the future of cameras, and make a full frame mirrorless like a Sony A7r, but with a fully articulating touch screen, 4k and wifi, and a popup flash, yes I want the ability to have fill flash without carrying around a big speed light like I have to do with my 5Dlll, if Nikon does, I will be happy to go back to Nikon and sell all my Canon gear, but it might be to late for Nikon and Canon, because the new Sony A7ll with 5 Axis IBIS, and the rumored A9 about to come out, and also the Samsung NX1 with a 28mp backlit sensor and 4k, I think Canon and Nikon are about to lose a big part of the camera market, anyway, nice review, I hope you are about to review the new Samsung NX1 and there glass, and the New Sony A7 ll
How the AF of this camera compares to the nikon d750, I know that is FF. But talking generally about AF through the viewfinder. And the sharpness of the pictures. I have the 70D and I get a lot of soft images even a high shooter speed and single focus.
really a very good review on DSLR. I already using canon 700D and thinking about to upgrade it and it pretty detailed and helpful review. Thank you so much for doing this. And keep up helping.
Excellent review. I agree with just about all of it. Question: what hardware are you using to capture your audio. I didnt see any wireless sennheisers or anything so Im thinking an on-camera mic? Its very good audio if it is.
We use Sony UWP-D11 wireless mic systems for audio. You can't see it because it's hidden in a Rode Invisilav under Chris' jacket. Thanks for watching! Jordan @ TCSTV
Nicely done Chris & Jordan. But I do hope Chris will test the AF performance by himself into some sports and fast action photography. But of course, I appreciate Todd Korol's opinion about its AF performance. :) Cheers
Hi Do you guys recommend this as a allround camera? I have 7d and i like about the bigger body and handling...i do all kind of photographing, from sport to portraits......this is much cheaper than 5d 3.
Things like the MP count (20.2) is a basic statistic and can be found anywhere, and it doesn't shoot 4K. I don't think there is a traditional DSLR that shoots 4K. Yet.
Came across this video because I am researching for a camera in this class, and I have specifically in my sights this and the Nikon D7200. I see you have fearlessly doused the camera with water, but I also see a 35mm [i.e. designed for a “full frame” sensor - I am not referring to the lens focal length, here] *_L [i.e. weather sealed]_* lens mounted on it. What has me baffled is this: Everybody is going ecstatic about how the 7D MkII is indestructible and how good the weather sealing is, however, when it comes to lenses, *_I have noticed that none of the Canon APS-C lenses has even a mount gasket for rudimentary dust and moisture protection [let alone weather sealing], while all of the Nikon APS-C lenses that matter do,_* and, as I understand it, a weather sealed camera must be paired with a weather sealed lens, in order to confidently be used without issues in adverse weather conditions. Therefore, question: Which of the two [Canon 7D MkII or Nikon D7200] would you recommend/pick up for shooting sports, wildlife, landscape… in a misty morning or evening or during a mild drizzle or near the sea or a lake, river or waterfall, in a forest, in a dry desert [think Sahara, Arizona, Utah]… with a gentle to moderate breeze, and, equally importantly, with which wide angle zoom, standard zoom and telephoto zoom *_APS-C_* lenses? Does the lack of a mount gasket affect Canon weather sealing - *_and if not, how come?_* Being as specific as possible, *_also, possibly, mentioning reliable sources of information on the subject,_* would be appreciated. Also, dynamic range-wise: does the Canon DPAF have anything to do with the 7D MkII [and other Canon DSLRs’] worse dynamic range, compared to that of the Nikons [the D3300 that you mention in this video and the D7200 that I am interested in]?
I heard somewhere that the Canon 7D's '1080p' is soft because it's up-scaled internally because of line-skipping. Could it be something similar with the 7Dmk2?
Hi Chris. I would like to see your thoughts on the Sony A77m2. I have one and the focusing tracking is awesome! I had the old Canon 7D but I sold it and got the Sony and have no regrets.
Hi I have got canon 7d ii and can't make it work for sharp continues tracking photos. What settings do you actually have if you shoot sport or wild life as when I use it I have 2 out of 10 photos sharp . Where my Sony a7r II can track perfectly... thanks
Hey guys, I'm having a hard time choosing between something else... Nikon or Canon? I already have some cameras in my mind depending on which brand I choose; like the Nikon D610 or D7100 or either this Canon or the Canon 70D would do. So please, could you answer that question (just if there's an actual answer)? Thanks in advance, guys.
We ran a single Sony UWP-D11 wireless system into the 7D MK II. To run multiple mics into the 7D MK II you'll need an audio recorder like a Zoom H5, or an XLR adapter like the Beachtek DXA-SLR. Jordan @ TCSTV
Jordan, have you tried Canon video X picture style? www.canon.co.jp/imaging/picturestyle/file/videocamera.html I find the image pleasing and easy to grade yet it is giving more dynamic range.
I have been reluctant to buying this camera: I am not sure the fast autofocus will make me forget the softness on the pictures. Might bite the bullet...
I love the 7DII. It makes great images, not as soft as the reviewer stated, believe me it on par with anything on the market as apsc. It has a snappy auto focus and the body is great. Nothing is as good for the price. It will sell plenty
Hey guys would love your help am looking for a decent camera and bird lens. Can't decide between a few . Am curious at new 7d mark 2 with either canon 300f4 with tele 1.4 . Or maybe the newer 100-400 canon. Or the cheaper Nikon d7100 with the newer 80 -400 lens. Combo please help obviously the better length is best for birds. Anyone got any idea or what they use ? The 7d mark 2 looks like a great ad sty stem. And decent buffer.
Wow, after watching your reviews filmed on GH4, fz1000, LX100 i thought a lot of the static shots were actually out of focus they were so soft. I agree with the ending of the video that it does seem weird that canon seems to lagging behind on IQ.
I'm a long time late here, but after trading in my sturdy and reliable 7D, my 7D Mk II just came today. Really looking forward to giving it a good workout. Along with my 1DX Mk III and 20D (not to mention my beloved original 300D that I've had for just about 20 years), plus some reasonably good glass, I'm really happy with my current kit. Since what I have will more than meet my needs for the indefinite future, I'm not concerned with moving to mirrorless.
How do you like your 7D Mark II so far?
@@The_Algorithm_ I love it! The pairing of that body (which is built like a tank) and the 24-105 lens is fantastic. When I go birding, I put my 100-400 on that camera and my Sigma 150-600C on the 1DX and things are in great shape.
I thought the opening shot was on a monopod until Jordan started to follow Chris. Nice job.
I know! That Ronin is incredible. Really impressive
You must get one Dave :)
Dave maybe your finally get 1 and do a though review
***** Nope, stabilized with a DJI Ronin. No software stabilization added!
Jordan @ TCSTV
Dave Dugdale And Jordan's hands.
Even 7 years ago Jordan looked exactly the same as today 😂
This comment!!😊
Fantastic review Chris & Jordan. You two continue to push the boundaries of what it is to make quality, unbiased reviews, something that is often missing on youtube. Keep up the good work.
Chris Winter
Couldn't have said it better myself.
It's like Canon thinks it should improve one thing at a time on each new model. "Really great AF? Check! Okay, we're done with this new model."
You have most beautiful looking video in months and guess what, it is done with 7D Mark II and you are actually talking about average image quality. Really guys? Please do not shoot some underexposed black object and than add +5EV in post to prove us how D3300 has better image quality. Why don't you go outside and take some three-dimensional color photos of something simple, like grass or sky and than try to show us how 7D Mark II has worse image quality than Nikon D3300. If you can. Also, just use that 70-200 at f2.8, please, do not be afraid. I am also surprised to hear comment about size and shape of the 7D grip.
Still, amazing review, very informative, done with lot of effort and overall great production (not only because using Ronin). Well done!
I can only imagine how good the episode could have looked if I'd used a Sony A7S, FS700 or a Panasonic GH4...
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TheCameraStoreTV Jordan, but you have used those cameras during a review. I agree with Branko here. I don't get the criticism when it is clearly your best looking work.
ejbernal2 I like the compositions and a few of the shots in the review, but when editing I was constantly fighting the soft image and low dynamic range. It's subjective, but I think the X100T, Sigma Quattro, D750 and Phantom 2 videos look much nicer. But I'm glad that everyone likes how this episode turned out!
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TheCameraStoreTV You just can't ignore colors that Canon camera produce. It is subjective, but everybody agrees about that. Immediately after I hit playback of this video I saw something better, more pleasant and then Chris said that you are using 7D2 for filming. Yes, dynamic range is not good on Canon DSLRs but it's not like it is much better on similar (DSLR) cameras. And second part of the problem and probably bigger regardless dynamic range is h264 compression combined with 4:2:0 which makes any color/exposure correction very hard. I am not defending Canon, I am just saying.
But I have to defend Canon about "soft image." There are to many cameras with over sharpened videos that just are not pleasant. You have to remember that sharpness of digital sensors is big problem in movie industry. They just want image with less sharpness. If you use three digit ISOs you can make Canon DSLR footage sharp in post and it is not like every second you need amazing dynamic range, but it is very hard to replicate colors of Canon cameras and with compressed footage almost impossible.
I sorry but recovery in post when things go wrong matters. Also I don't know why everyone is saying this video looks good. Blow highlights everywhere with poor rolloff. While I think sometimes other videos on this channel come across a little to flat, this is the horrible opposite extreme.
Just found you guys, and you're by far the fairest, most useful reviewers I've watched in the ~7 years or so that I have been following the industry.
A big part of the appeal of this camera are the great lenses that work so well with it, particularly the new 100-400mm II. It's an exceptional package.
For pros, the combo of one of the 5D variants + 7DII will be a pretty compelling package. The 7D adds capability rather than just being a backup.
One note about the 1080p/60 mode you would have mentioned is it has limitations. You do NOT get the on-sensor phase detect AF, nor can you record in ALL-I.
Pretty annoying for someone like me who likes 60 fps video, but it's a good camera so far (for me) so I won't complain too much.
You're using it in completely the wrong enviroment for this camera. Go shoot some sport or wildlife and that's where it shines!!
I totally agree with you Josh,well said.
Best canon for street photography . . Plaese suggest
like fuck!!
@@ansari_kabeer even a old 5D (mark 1) is good for streetphotography if your budget is tight, one step up would be a 5d mark 2/3 or a 6D, no need for a powerhouse like the 7dm2 or 1d m3/m4/x they are for workhorses for sports/wildlife
@@ansari_kabeer rebel t6s and 24mm 2.8 stm
I really like how the graded footage looks.
Kudos to Jordan on the camera work this episode, nice composition!
That opening shot tho! So smooth.
The Nikon shadow pushing comparison is crazy. Such a big difference. In price also.
Wow that is really good 720p video. Oh wait! That is 1080p. With 4K cameras now this just isn't going to cut it for video. The AF looks really good but the final product just isn't there.
Every camera has trade offs. For example, sure the Nikon D3300 has 4 extra megapixels but the 7D Mark ll has double the burst rate and get usable shots until ISO 12800. Maybe.
I purchased my first DSLR, a Pentax K-30, for a trip to Antarctica. I LOVE this sturdy camera and the wildlife photos I was able to take as a total rookie. However, I've reached its limits (especially when photographing birds) and want to move up. Here is my dilemma: Do I sell my K-30 body and buy a K-3 now (only a few hundred $ out of pocket), keeping my existing lenses _or_ do I save my $ for another year until I can finally buy into Canon's universe of lenses with the 7D Mark II? I guess what I am asking (being the impatient sort ), what features, beyond lens selection and availability, are significantly superior on the Canon 7D Mark II vs the Pentax K-3? Also, does Nikon have something in the pipes for wildlife photographers?
Aside from the more complete system, the 7D MK II has significantly better autofocus tracking and video quality. For my money, they K-3 has better image quality though.
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TheCameraStoreTV Thanks Jordan. Great info.
*****
I don't think Pentax ever made an action camera that competed with something like the Canon 7D series or Nikon D300s. Pentax looks like it's really aiming at the Medium Format field and is looking to make Medium Format photography more affordable.
Thanks for all the comments gang. In the end I caved to my techno-lust, sold my K-30 and added a few hundred for the K-3. Love it! But do wish I had access to all the rental lenses in the Canon/Nikon world. May end up going multi-brand one day.
This is one of the best test videos I've ever seen, the video quality is awesome
Now for a 7DmkII vs Sony A77II comparison or shoot-out! Determine once and for all who the real king of APS-C is!
I love it how the cheapest Nikon APS-C DSLR has a better sensor the most expensive Canon APS-C DSLR. Kudos to Sony, who actually makes Nikon's sensors I suppose
Ya right. Compare the Nikon at ISO 6400 to the 7D. Nobody mentions this fact. Canon sensors have always had better high ISO DR. Whatch the vid.
Paul Hojda To be honest though, the advantage in picture IQ of Nikon's cheapest and Canon's most expensive, only apply with pictures taken in great light. Canon cameras will blow the cheap Nikons out of the water when it comes to shooting in low light, such as weddings, events, indoor sports. Still, Canon should take this as a problem that needs to be corrected. It shouldn't be making sensors that can't compete with the Nikon cheapie, especially at the price points they are selling these Canon Cameras.
I cant understand why you would review a camera like this taking street shot when the majority of buyers will be shooting wildlife. This is a great camera for that far ahead of it's competition. Go out and shoot something real for a change.. As far as sharpening set your camera up properly plus if you do shoot wildlife get a good L lens you don't have to get a 400 f/4 get a 100 - 400 or a 300mm f/4 that will be in the reach of most people. That's just my two cents ! LOL !
im looking for a good autofocus and the 7d Mk 2 is very appealing to me especially with the 10 fps cont. shooting, however your analysis on the low picture quality has turned me off a bit. is there a better Nikon alternative in the same price range? I like shooting sports and wildlife with compromising the image quality.
Saw your 80D review, I decided to check this old one out. I'm wondering which will be best for video work. The 7D Mk II have more focus points, less moire, better lowlight and a clean HDMI out. The 80D have articulating touch screen useful for focusing, sharper video (from comparisons I've seen) and WiFi which enables monitoring and tap focus pulling with app. Really torn between the two.
I wish they would fuse together
need need and need .... and im a professional
So .... professionals cant be comfortable ?
Somebody doesn't like convenience .
So .... A Touchscreen doesn't help you get quick precise manual focus ? And smooth pull focus
So .... Wifi doesn't help get your pics on your site or social media quicker ?
So .... Turnable screen doesn't help you get shots that were very difficult w/o ?
Personally I think the word professional applies when we are getting professionally paid for a job, which comes at varying levels of requirements. We use tools that are necessary to achieve the requirements, and convenience and practicality are always welcome.
The guy acts like convenience is a nuances ....
Great review. Please review with the same depth on the Samsung NX-1. On paper, it beats the Canon by a good margin.
Hi Guys, Nice review. Not big on DSLR filmmaking ,but yes for stills. The 7d Mark II looks good and has some nice features. I shot the TV series "Bluff" in Calgary with a 5d Mark III. At first, I was hesitant, but loved the way it held up under low light conditions. Images were very clear and holds up in a larger format. The 7d Mark II as well as most of the Canons are great for TV. In terms of filmmaking, after seeing the Nikon's image clarity on your review, I am sold. I would rather get the sharpest image possible and dumb it down in post later or ad a filmic look. I am going to look at more comparisons on here. Keep up the good work!
Best camera reviews on the net. Nice job.
I am watching the first review of yours and I must say this is the most comprehensive, informative and unbiased review of a camera Ive seen till date! Great going.. I agree with you on the IQ part, I recently upgraded from entry level to mid-range and I switched from a Canon 1100d to a Nikon d5300 just because I wasnt happy with the Canon sensors. Please take note Canon :(
Appreciate your to-the-point comments on the 7D MKII sensor. If the Sony APS-C 24mp sensor was in it it could be worth $1800. With the Canon sensor-I say $1200 max.
I still have my 7DII 4 years on and its been saturated with rain, salt spray, had a rough life in Aussie heat and cold yet still produces the goods. Yes the images can be soft in crap lighting but a little basic editing in lightroom and its fine. Its been a great partner to my 5DIII and as Im hearing there will be no 7D3 I think I will hang onto it. I've seen images in print taken by both the 7DII and the D500 and to be honest cant pick which camera took what, a lot has to do with the photographer and their editing skills, I will say that its a workhorse, not perfect but certainly never lets me down
A lot has been said about shooting action and at low light.
Would the Canon 7D Mark II also be good for portraits and weddings?
So far, I would say yes. It's really knocking on the door of a 5D3 with some of its capabilities, but not quite there yet. Skin tones look amazing and accurate while the noise performance can work in most wedding environments. The honest truth is that at 10fps, I shot an event and let it do a 2-3 image burst for many shots - especially speaking people. You get home and throw them on the computer and see that one of the burst shots looks great and the others may have them with a weird expression or blinking. I see this as a real work benefit that surpasses the 5D3 for shooting an event/wedding. It it capable of possibly capturing a particular moment better.
BRENNAN'S TECH BITE Yes, if you buy 7D for sports and wildlife it will be very good for portraits and weddings, but 6D and 5D will be better. If you buy 6D or 5D for portraits and weddings, they can still take sport and wildlife photographs, but 7D will be better the more and faster the subject moves or the smaller or farther away the wildlife is.
Is it just me, or the videos coming out really good lately?
GREAT REVIEW, DO U EDIT YOUR PHOTOS THAT YOU SHOW US IN YOUR REVIEWS ?, I mean do u edit them before you post them or do you leave them stock for the viewer to see ?
I got the 7D2 because it addressed specific issues I had with the 7D. Although I have used it for night photography, the main reason was for wildlife/bird photography. The almost silent shutter of the 7D2 has afforded me excellent '2nd' photos when the loud 7D shutter would have scared off the subject.
As for the CR2/Raw files being soft: Well,with every variety of camera I personally have used I have had to do sharpening. Not a lot, but it seems to be the nature of the digital beast.
I like pairing it with my L 100-400, or Sigma 150-500.
Great job guys! I liked the review. I have one question, is this a good camera for shooting a Wedding? What Canon Camera & Lenses do you guys recommend for shooting/ filming Weddings?
Don't you just love it when big youtubers present false information ? Because they don't understand basic things like the fact that Canon and Nikon are processing images differently and that can give the APPEARANCE of one having better dynamic range than the other. Canon is well known for having more contrast in their color profiles than Nikon has and that obviously cuts down on the APPARENT dynamic range contained in the images, because that affects the way you make your exposure in the first place. But if you understand this aspect then you can setup Canon cameras in such ways that you'll get more dynamic range out of the sensor, by simply dialing down the in-camera contrast at the time of the exposure. Then you'll see that in fact Canon and Nikon are neck in neck when it comes to dynamic range. Or for example load the Technicolor Cinestyle color profile on a Canon camera to see the real dynamic range the sensor is capable of and then compare it to any Nikon camera from the same category. Not only that it will match it, but most likely it will also surpass it. It is simply a myth that Nikon sensors have better dynamic range than Canon sensors, myth kept alive and promoted by people who fail to realize that when comparing two different systems you can't be possibly comparing the same exact luminosity/color science behind the raw files. It is simply a software issue, not a real hardware problem.
Aah buddy, you got it so wrong it isn't even funny.
When shooting jpg then profiles have an affect, but when you shoot raw it has no affect whatsoever.
Now I am no Nikon fanboy, I use canon exclusively and the 7dII is still to this day my go to camera, but it most certainly does have less dynamic range than competing Nikon cameras. No doubt about that.
@@TheXaelem You are dead wrong. Read my comment carefully. When shooting raw you check your histogram or your exposure meter, right ? And then you adjust your exposure settings accordingly, isn't it ? Well, the color profile you are using affects your contrast and because of this it also affects your exposure meter, so it can have an impact even when you are shooting raw. Because you are adjusting your exposure settings based on a color profile. So regardless if you are shooting raw or jpeg, the color profile will have a direct or an indirect impact on your dynamic range. I heard this argument 1000 times, that the color profile has no effect when shooting raw, but it definitely has, through exposure.
lightroom 5 is your friend when it comes to this camera, I totally agree with what you called "softness" which I consider out of focus, I have tested mine with a 300mm prime lens from Canon and I have had to take several images of the same subject in order to get a dead on sharp picture (shooting Raw). The landscape pictures I have taken with other canon lens also come out soft...but then again I'm being very critical and pixel diving on a 1:1 and even 1:2 ratio.
Jordan how did you keep focus when using the Ronin on that first shot? Did you just keep a deep enough aperture (lets say 5.6) and keep a certain distance from Chris?
Hey Dave, I think he was using the 7D Mark II's face tracking feature! It works great.
Cheers
Chris
Ah, I forgot it had that feature. Very nice! Chris, I'm subbed to your channel. Keep up the good content man.
Thanks a lot Dave, not a problem. Appreciate the sub!
Have a great day!
Chris Winter
By the way, thanks Chris. I performed a no-no. I commented well before finishing the whole video...where he mentions the same thing. :) Thanks again.
I bought this camera (pre-ordered) the day it came out! It is amazing!
Thanks for the review guys well said. First time viewer and subscribed!!
A balanced and thoughtful review, as always. Well done.
Hello all, I was hoping you could recommend a camera for me. Im planning on shooting mainly wildlife, landscape, macro, and some indoor/night photography. I'll also be taking the camera on vacations , trips and shooting family and friends. Video is not as important to me since I have a GoPro for that, but I would certainly like to be able to shoot with these cameras as well. I can't decide between the d7200, 7d mark ii, and sony a7 ii. Which of the three would you recommend for what Im planning on shooting? If there is a better alternative than the three I listed above please let me know. Keep up the reviews I really enjoy watching them!
If someone owned a 60D like myself, how would you compare the two as far as a worthy upgrade?
I had the 60D. Good camera, but any newer camera blows that one out of the water in terms of low light.
I have such struggle getting focus in low light. Its so frustrating. There are many other things it lacks as well
Brian Michael Hey Brian, definitely check out trading in your 60d for the 70d. It's autofocus is much improved, even in low light.
Cheers
Chris Winter
Chris Winter you like the 70D more than the 7D Mk II
Brian Michael Yep, i think so. Although they both have very similar Dual Pixel Autofocus systems, the 70d does still have an advantage (for video especially), in that it has a touch screen, allowing you to select exactly where you want it to focus, as well as having a swivelling screen which allows you to use it at different heights. Both great cameras though!
Jordan brilliant review was looking at purchasing the 7d i have Sony alpha camera at the moment and have no idea on the lenses to buy with the 7d. what lens was used to take the rugby pictures? Pls Help, i will be using to take rugby shots as well as family days out. Cheers Also this looks like the best DSLR for the money?
what kind of wireless mike system were you using to film this documentary on your Canon 7D?
Great review! I picked this camera an waiting for it to come in!! Whats the lenses u r using in this video?
Nice review - tempted to get one for its weather sealed capability and autofocus. I can skip a generation though and use my 7d/5d2 combo. Or most likely scenario wait till the price crashes over time before I pick one up half price. I'm not an early adopter but good to hear the people who actually bought it, like it from comments so far.
As usual guys, phenomenal review. On another note, can you guys review the Sony A77II. It seems like a pretty compelling camera from the spec sheet alone, but from what Ive been able to gather it somehow disappoints.
Great review as always guys!
One thing: How exactly did you edit/grade the unprocessed footage at 11:53?
It was just adjusted in Final Cut X's color correction tool, with some light sharpening added. Nothing fancy.
Jordan @ TCSTV
The use case of the 7D was wild life & sports. You guys didn't test it?
I have a 7d and 24-105 4 as my main lens should i upgrade to a 7d mark ii or invest in more glass like 70-200 f4 is.
Hi Guys,
When you get a chance to do a compare video please do a Samsung NX1 vs the Canon 7D2. I'm a Canon user but I've never been temped to buy another camera system until I took a look at the specs of the NX1. Head to head... who wins!
I want to start getting into videography and am currently doing some research on what camera I should buy. I want to make car videos which would be composed of a lot of in car perspective shots as well as exterior tracking shots. It would primarily be filmed in daylight and include a lot of wide scenery clips, but I would still like to have a camera with lowlight capability. Any advice on a what camera I should get. It's a bit overwhelming right now as this kind of thing is a bit foreign to me. I'm currently looking at the the A7s and the Canon 60D and 70D. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
That was an awesome first scene! Impressive!
I'm no video expert whatsoever. I only shoot stills, but even before the video got to Jordan's part, I instantly was able to see how soft the video was particularly when someone's face was in view, etc. At first I questioned whether the video was in 720p or something was wrong with my eyes. Just like Jordan said, no fine details.
So if you took the same walk again, would you prefer to take the 7D mkii 70-200 combination or the GH4 35-100?
Great review may be my next camera from a 700D. What autofocus mode did the photographer use during the shots of the woman's rugby match?
I haven't tried the 7Dll, but from everything I have heard, your conclusion is the same as mine, i give Canon some credit for the auto focus system, and how the sensor works for live view and video, but this is 2014, and there is no excuse for the entry level Nikon to have better image quality as far as sharpness and dynamic range, there is also no excuse for a lack of a fully articulating touch screen, or wi fi, screw the ruggedness argument, it doesn't hold weight, also the 7Dll is to big and heavy, I am really hoping that Canon will put out something like the new Samsung NX1, and also a full frame version, and I am really hoping that Nikon also does, I switched from Nikon to Canon when I got my 5Dlll, but I have always missed having a Nikon, Nikon is part of me, and I wish they would put the D810 parts in a smaller and lighter camera, even smaller and lighter than the D750, but what I really hope is that Nikon will join the future of cameras, and make a full frame mirrorless like a Sony A7r, but with a fully articulating touch screen, 4k and wifi, and a popup flash, yes I want the ability to have fill flash without carrying around a big speed light like I have to do with my 5Dlll, if Nikon does, I will be happy to go back to Nikon and sell all my Canon gear, but it might be to late for Nikon and Canon, because the new Sony A7ll with 5 Axis IBIS, and the rumored A9 about to come out, and also the Samsung NX1 with a 28mp backlit sensor and 4k, I think Canon and Nikon are about to lose a big part of the camera market, anyway, nice review, I hope you are about to review the new Samsung NX1 and there glass, and the New Sony A7 ll
How the AF of this camera compares to the nikon d750, I know that is FF. But talking generally about AF through the viewfinder. And the sharpness of the pictures. I have the 70D and I get a lot of soft images even a high shooter speed and single focus.
Hey guys, I really enjoy the review. Can you compare this camera to the sony a77II, that would be great!
Great review. I won,t repeat what is said below but I do hope you will review the Samsung 'S1'
Which other lenses you use for this shooting? It is clear that 70-200mm, but other ones. Thanks.
You guys should do the shootout between Canon 7d m2 and Sony a77 m2 :)
really a very good review on DSLR. I already using canon 700D and thinking about to upgrade it and it pretty detailed and helpful review. Thank you so much for doing this. And keep up helping.
Hii, I am not able to view all focus point when I put wide angle(10-18 mm), on canon 7d mark 2, could you please tell how can i view them all.
Excellent review. I agree with just about all of it. Question: what hardware are you using to capture your audio. I didnt see any wireless sennheisers or anything so Im thinking an on-camera mic? Its very good audio if it is.
We use Sony UWP-D11 wireless mic systems for audio. You can't see it because it's hidden in a Rode Invisilav under Chris' jacket. Thanks for watching!
Jordan @ TCSTV
Another brilliant review guys!
Would you say the the softness in the image is a Canon trademark?
Could the problem with continuous autofocus in live view mode not be solved by back button focusing?
a question, in continuous mode allservo in live mode the need to always be with your finger in focus? obrg for the video
Nicely done Chris & Jordan. But I do hope Chris will test the AF performance by himself into some sports and fast action photography. But of course, I appreciate Todd Korol's opinion about its AF performance. :)
Cheers
Excellent, informative video, guys!
Hi
Do you guys recommend this as a allround camera?
I have 7d and i like about the bigger body and handling...i do all kind of photographing, from sport to portraits......this is much cheaper than 5d 3.
Does it shoot a nice 4k? What's the mega pixel? Can it take hotos while video recording? It seems to me you guys didn't cover some important factors.
Things like the MP count (20.2) is a basic statistic and can be found anywhere, and it doesn't shoot 4K. I don't think there is a traditional DSLR that shoots 4K. Yet.
mrman17 thanks for the reply.
mrman17 Canon's own 1DC is the only 4K compatible DSLR. For now.
Jordan @ TCSTV
TheCameraStoreTV good to know. thanks for the info.
Thats not major thats noob factors.
You guys always do great reviews, thanks for doing this.
Came across this video because I am researching for a camera in this class, and I have specifically in my sights this and the Nikon D7200.
I see you have fearlessly doused the camera with water, but I also see a 35mm [i.e. designed for a “full frame” sensor - I am not referring to the lens focal length, here] *_L [i.e. weather sealed]_* lens mounted on it.
What has me baffled is this:
Everybody is going ecstatic about how the 7D MkII is indestructible and how good the weather sealing is, however, when it comes to lenses, *_I have noticed that none of the Canon APS-C lenses has even a mount gasket for rudimentary dust and moisture protection [let alone weather sealing], while all of the Nikon APS-C lenses that matter do,_* and, as I understand it, a weather sealed camera must be paired with a weather sealed lens, in order to confidently be used without issues in adverse weather conditions.
Therefore, question:
Which of the two [Canon 7D MkII or Nikon D7200] would you recommend/pick up for shooting sports, wildlife, landscape… in a misty morning or evening or during a mild drizzle or near the sea or a lake, river or waterfall, in a forest, in a dry desert [think Sahara, Arizona, Utah]… with a gentle to moderate breeze, and, equally importantly, with which wide angle zoom, standard zoom and telephoto zoom *_APS-C_* lenses? Does the lack of a mount gasket affect Canon weather sealing - *_and if not, how come?_*
Being as specific as possible, *_also, possibly, mentioning reliable sources of information on the subject,_* would be appreciated.
Also, dynamic range-wise: does the Canon DPAF have anything to do with the 7D MkII [and other Canon DSLRs’] worse dynamic range, compared to that of the Nikons [the D3300 that you mention in this video and the D7200 that I am interested in]?
Really good review, best I've seen in a long time.
which purture , iso , white balance is best for night shooting on canon 7D mark 2 ?
Best review ive seen about the 7d mark II :)
Thanks for another honest review.
Great review. Will the on pixel face detect af work with usm lenses?
I heard somewhere that the Canon 7D's '1080p' is soft because it's up-scaled internally because of line-skipping. Could it be something similar with the 7Dmk2?
Hi Chris. I would like to see your thoughts on the Sony A77m2. I have one and the focusing tracking is awesome! I had the old Canon 7D but I sold it and got the Sony and have no regrets.
Congratulations, and Could you help me about how to change the language form japanese to english on camera display?
tks
Im trying to find a camera for shooting airplanes and this one seems to be really good
Hi
I have got canon 7d ii and can't make it work for sharp continues tracking photos. What settings do you actually have if you shoot sport or wild life as when I use it I have 2 out of 10 photos sharp .
Where my Sony a7r II can track perfectly...
thanks
You guys are awesome! Thx for this review, I really did enjoy it.
Hey guys, I'm having a hard time choosing between something else... Nikon or Canon? I already have some cameras in my mind depending on which brand I choose; like the Nikon D610 or D7100 or either this Canon or the Canon 70D would do. So please, could you answer that question (just if there's an actual answer)? Thanks in advance, guys.
hello guys i just wanna ask you if you think that canon 1ds mark II is still good camera this days specialy on wedding and portrait event
which camera is better for sports, this canon 7d mark ii or sony a6300 ? please let me know
Nice job guys !
Like as always just interesting to listen and to watch your clips !
Thanks for your time
Hi there! Where can I buy used canon 7D Mark II till arrive in Mozambique?
So, what I want to know is what did you use for the mic system for the video? Will it handle two lavalier mics?
We ran a single Sony UWP-D11 wireless system into the 7D MK II. To run multiple mics into the 7D MK II you'll need an audio recorder like a Zoom H5, or an XLR adapter like the Beachtek DXA-SLR.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Jordan, have you tried Canon video X picture style?
www.canon.co.jp/imaging/picturestyle/file/videocamera.html
I find the image pleasing and easy to grade yet it is giving more dynamic range.
I forgot about that picture style! I'll try it out when we test Canon's next DSLR.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Can't seem to get 60fps for video. Could you advise? Thank you!
I have been reluctant to buying this camera: I am not sure the fast autofocus will make me forget the softness on the pictures. Might bite the bullet...
I love the 7DII.
It makes great images, not as soft as the reviewer stated, believe me it on par with anything on the market as apsc.
It has a snappy auto focus and the body is great.
Nothing is as good for the price.
It will sell plenty
Hey guys would love your help am looking for a decent camera and bird lens. Can't decide between a few . Am curious at new 7d mark 2 with either canon 300f4 with tele 1.4 . Or maybe the newer 100-400 canon. Or the cheaper Nikon d7100 with the newer 80 -400 lens. Combo please help obviously the better length is best for birds. Anyone got any idea or what they use ? The 7d mark 2 looks like a great ad sty stem. And decent buffer.
Wow, after watching your reviews filmed on GH4, fz1000, LX100 i thought a lot of the static shots were actually out of focus they were so soft. I agree with the ending of the video that it does seem weird that canon seems to lagging behind on IQ.
would love to see a D7100 v. 7Dii v. a77ii v. K3 showdown
Spot on review as always guys :)