Had I not been hellbent on getting a Gamecube for Christmas that year, I would have been as well. THPS 1 and 2 were some of my most played Dreamcast games.
@Paul Bell Not really, back then every company can still release news games till 2009 before GD Production ends like happen in japan when came out new games from DC till 2007.
There are plenty of complaints to be had about the N64 joystick, but the D-pad? Gotta disagree there. The neutered sound track is the biggest offender, then the lack of movies.
I played the entirety of tony hawk's pro skater 2, every goal, with two characters, using the d-pad. The n64's d-pad causes great discomfort if you use it extensively. My left thumb genuinely hurt quite a bit from it. It's so angular, and tall. It dug into my thumb quite a lot.
Also lack of videos on TV screens in game. Always thought it looked cool. I heard Dreamcast is best version, though PS1 is awesome aswell. Maybe N64 just couldnt hold soundfiles with lyrics or something?
@@matrix91234 N64 cartridges hold significantly less data than CD's, so the songs were shortened, compressed and looped to fit the cart. Videos were out of the question.
There is one thing that made me a little proud to have the N64 versions back then and it was the almost instant loading. If those cartridges had more storage space, the N64 would have definitely been the better console in term of performances.
I got to work security at the Warped Tour one year and didn't recognize any of the bands, but luckily Goldfinger played my stage near the end of the night and I got to hear Superman live and up-close. It instantly took me back to being a kid playing THPS1 lol
The N64 versions also lacked those real videos of the skaters. Those made the game worth playing multiple times with different skaters. Also, a few years ago Chad Muska ollied over me at a skatepark and I stood atop the real life Leap of Faith the same year my girlfriend and I took a skate trip to Burnside Skatepark (we skated there all night).
That's definitely part of the issue. The travel on it makes it tough to do manuals and special tricks and link the two together. It's not unusable, but there are just better ways to play if you're looking to play today. Also, I'm a huge fan! Thank you for watching!
@@Under10Hours That's why you use the dpad. it's more accurate anyway. I always played with the stick as a kid and wondered why it was so bad. But i've played the whole game with the dpad and had alot of fun.
That's a good point. I played the PSone versions after I made the video. I preferred how they played and how there were videos playing on the levels, but the warping was definitely a bit jarring.
@Paul Bell 1+2 isnt comparable to actually playing the originals, it plays like an entirely different game just with the same levels and goals 2x is probably the best version of the original 2 games
When I was a kid I only had an N64, so I ended up with the N64 versions of THPS1 and 2. I had remembered hearing Papa Roach's Blood Brothers in the second game playing it at my cousin's house, so imagine my confusion when I was scrolling through the track list trying to find that song, only for it to be completely absent. I thought my game was broken or something. I was too young to understand that a cartridge meant less space. I also thought RATM's Guerilla Radio actually went "ALL....BWECCHHH....CAN'T STOP US NOW"...only to later realize it's a censored version of "ALL....HELL....CAN'T STOP US NOW". Really Nintendo? Can't even say the word "hell", the most non swear swear word there is? Needless to say I felt pretty jipped on the music side of things. The games were still playable, for me at least, but the PlayStation/PC/Dreamcast versions will always be superior, if for nothing else than having the full track list.
Yeah all of the censoring is pretty jarring after you play the other versions. When I was a kid I never understood why N64 ports were E and the others were T. Now I get it haha
@@Under10Hours I didn’t realize there was a third verse in some of the songs. Until years later I listened to the soundtrack I was confused where all this extra song came from...lol
As a kid I only had N64 and all of my friends had N64. So I never got to play the superior PS1 versions. But I'm so glad they did their damndest to port these iconic games to the less powerful console. So many of us would not have experienced them at all otherwise.
Three of the four "removed" levels are just ports from THPS1, which are there because you couldn't play them on the 6th gen consoles. It wouldn't make sense to put those levels on a game that looks like the original one and has the same engine. The only thing really missing is the Cruise Ship, and while it's a shame, there's no way the N64 and PSX would ever run a level like that without being a complete abomination.... and the Downhill Rio is just terrible too. However, I think Shaba Games actually did a good job on the THPS3 PSX port. Yes, it should have never come out on the N64 because of its inumerous limitations, but it _works_ on the Playstation. Sure, there are differences, but most of the compensations are well thought, like Canada's extra areas, Rio's balconies -- hell, the Foundry is actually better to skate on the PSX version with those tubes that go around the entire level!! Please don’t take me the wrong way as I'm not dissing the content, I just think that the PSX port is really underappreciated and it doesn't deserve to be put on the same spot as the N64 port-of-a-port.
Oh I agree and I'm sorry if it came across as dissing the PSone version. I only mentioned it in the video after researching the differences between the two gens. I played that port on my Vita after I made the video and it's way more serviceable than the N64. I ended up playing the whole PSone port after, and it was a way better experience
And hey, if you disagree with me that's cool. I don't make the videos to be told I'm right 😂 I like talking about the games whether you all think I'm right or wrong haha
@@Under10Hours I think I came across as just saying negative things, but I really love the subject and the quality of the video. I'm digging through obscure (and mostly terrible) Tony Hawk ports as well lately, currently playing PSP's Project 8 classic mode... maaaaan does that feel weird hahaha
Just managed to, for the first time, emulate the Dreamcast. Huge thanks to the makers of reDream, the simplest emulator that allowed me to play a much better looking version of the game I played a whole lot growing up, THPS 2 on the PlayStation.
Going from The N64 and the GC version of THPS3 is literally like night and day. It's insane just how different they are and how much better the game looks and controls on the latter console.
No music, no video, bad controls which is why the psx versions won. My favorite game that you never mentioned was the psx version of thps4, it is like thps2 but with spine transfers, pivots, balance on lip tricks, triple flips and swapping grinds. I never knew it existed so i played it years later on emulator and i was shocked how good it was.
I enjoyed this video a lot! What would be the best versions? I played 2 and thugpro on my pc but the framerate is quite abysmal. Are the original xbox versions any good?
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you liked it! I think the rest come down to either what you have access to or what you prefer. Each have upsides and downsides, but some aren't too different from others. Personally I think the Dreamcast has a great port of 1 because of the better audio quality in the music, 2 is probably best as part of 2x on the Xbox because of the graphics, and 3 is best on PS2 and Xbox because it was developed mainly for those systems.
So the only one I really played on the Nintendo 64 was THPS2. Even though we were kids and mainly owned a Playstation, we knew there was a clear difference between the PS1 and the N64. The PS1 version is superior to the N64 version in every way.
N64 looks miles better than the PS1. I grew up with the N61 version of Pro Skater 1 and I never had any trouble using the controller. I had THPS2 on PS1 sure, but I ended up getting the N64 version of that too just because I liked the yellow cartridge (yep). THPS3 I got on the PS2, didn't bother with the watered down versions until I grew up and got the N64 version to complete the trilogy and see what it'd be like on 5th gen consoles. Basically besides the music, I don't see what this guy's talking about on 1 and 2, and I think THPS3 looks and plays just as plain as the PS1 version
This is why the Dreamcast for 1 and 2 was superior to the PS1 and N64. Btw, the N64 Version for music had more censorship which was one way to achieve Rated E and then removed blood which was another for Rated E.
I grew up playing the PS1 versions of 1&2 usually at my friend house. I played THPS 3 at another friends house on the PS2 and it blew my mind. I only had an N64 at the time so when I picked up THPS games on N64 I was puzzled why half the songs were missing and were butchered. Kinda ruined it for me
Haha trade secret 😉 No my Vita is hacked and modded to run the ROMs and ISOs of a bunch of different consoles. The Vita can run most PSone games perfectly, and it's been a ton of fun having these classics in my pocket.
I grew up with these ports of 1 and 2, as well, and have only seen gameplay of their ports on other consoles. The one thing you could've pointed out going back to these, both in n64 emulators and on original hardware, is how slow the loading times are. I don't know how bad they are on other ports, but it just feels like you're waiting forever for every level to load or to even get to the main menu. The lack of FMV's is a huge thing, too, since seeing the skaters clips were part of the rewards for beating the games, so there's a generation of people who only had the n64 ports of these games that never got to see any of the skater's parts. Also, this is something weird that I couldn't ever confirm, but in Pro Skater 3, is the song "Let's Get Dirty" censored differently on any of the GameCube, Xbox and PC ports? There's lines that say: "My dress code is all black When I'm makin the moves Similar to the new PlayStation 2" I swear I've heard the console name PS2 be censored in a gameplay video of the game, but I can't find the video and don't have any copies/consoles other than the PS2 version to check on.
Is it true the expansion pak increases the framerate in these games, or does it just give the option of having a higher resolution (at the potential cost of framerate)?
I'm currently playing thps3 on my everdrive and I notice the music issue. Del the funky homosapian song cuts the chorus completely and they only have the first 45 seconds of Aaf song.
Digital foundry seems to think n64 is rendered better! It’s like SCREW YOU the n64 doesn’t render at high enough res to do that much antialiasing and has super low res textures so the whole thing looks blurred and colours bland
If Police Truck really didn't have any lyrics, what did you even plan to do once you got up there?? Great vid though, I've been watching a bunch of THPS videos to get hype for THPS 1+2
Thanks for watching! The plan was to be like when that video of the guy singing "Tequila" stared dead-eyed into the audience until he actually got to say the word, but with me just staring into the audience for two and a half minutes. Then I'd walk away.
Maybe you might be using a 3rd party N64 controller, which explains why the directional buttons aren't as accurate as you expect. Perhaps an OEM Nintendo 64 controller has the most accurate directional buttons, so I highly suggest you get one if you haven't. Not to mention the skaters are a tad lighter on N64 than on the disc-based versions of the first THPS. Some players prefer the N64 version due to this reason, allowing for a slightly-floaty game feel. Without a PC version, the first THPS game's best version for speedrunning is surprisingly the N64 version considering the lack of load times. THPS2 and 3 had official PC ports, and their load times can be minimized if a no-CD patch is installed.
THPS3 actually came out in 2002 if you can believe that. I grew up playing the first game on N64 and I loved it. Butchered music and all, it's those versions that are most nostalgic for me. That and, as you said, it controlled reasonably well on N64. Geoff Rowley has always been my guy in these games. Played 2 on PS1 and 3-THUG on GameCube.
I feel like you're being very unjust in your arguments. The music being scaled down is pretty obvious but graphic wise, it is pretty much on par with the PS1 if not better. All three gamed also recieves a performance boost with the expansion pak. Draw distance isn't good on the two first games on any system, save for maybe the Dreamcast or XBOX so with the third being bad is just because it uses old tech.
7:01 Despite the 3D stick being a thing for the N64, the N64 port of THPS3 doesn't have camera control functionality, and no option to remap the 3D stick to move the camera. It's best to play the PlayStation version of THPS3 or the other platforms for camera control.
Bro, when you had an N64 you didn’t notice or care. Music sounded awesome. We were stoked to have real songs on the system and just excited to have Tony Hawk!! Gotta love those remixes!!!!
Playing the 1st for N64 now. With the expansion pak it looks pretty good. Soundtrack and lack of videos suck, but the lack of load times is pretty great. Overall id say its pretty solid!
i loved THPS 2 on the N64 so much !! Of course there were fewer songs, and the videos were missing ... But the graphics were much better than on the PS1 ... And the missing songs didn't bother me, I had a CD player
3:24 There is a goal where you have to perform a quarterpipe transfer across the pillar containing a wire. Once this is done, the wire will snap, and the pillar will fall to crush and destroy the ice cream truck, slowing down its music as a result. This is needed to collect the secret tape without any jetpack cheats.
Are those your MIDI arrangements? I like them I'm sure the N64 could have played some decent samples of all those instruments, and shorten the vocal audio tracks (if available seperately) Wouldn't be awesome sound quality but my point is that the songs didn't need to be edited (even if the lyrics really did need to be taken out) Thursday, August 3, 2023 CE, 20:57 EDT
Revisted THPS2 on my N64 when I finished the 1+2 Remake. And I was absolutely done with it when a simple wall ride 5 bells seemed like the most impossible thing to do.
I think the release of the n64 version of 3 is interesting being the last released game on the system and it was the only game released for the system in 2002. Yes it’s horrible compared to the other versions... but the fact it was released at all was a miracle info itself. That makes it interesting to me, the question on why it released to begin with
Over time the Dpad on the N64 gets worse. I can definitely see it affecting gameplay. All you gotta do is clean the rubber membranes on it though to restore it. I soak them in warm soapy water then dry and put it back in the controller. The issue you were describing definitely sounded similar to an issue I had with Mischief makers recently but was fixed once i thoroughly cleaned the Dpad. :)
@@Under10Hours I'm scared to hack mine, I bought a hacked psp a while ago, the seller didn't know it was hacked so I'm sticking with that but I was just curious if it was hacked if you just knew of a way to side load games lol
@Michel O'Hara oh definitely don't do anything you're not comfortable with! But unfortunately I don't know of a way to sideload. But if you're ever interested in hacking definitely look up Tech James
What impressed me the most with the N64 versions of THPS2-3 is the sound quality of the music, sure it’s a butchered up versions of the songs but it sounded very “CD” sounding unlike THPS1 which sounds compressed.
I played the first game on the N64 and loved it! I rented the second one for N64 because I knew I’d eventually have a Dreamcast to buy the second one for. That said they were solid ports. I was shocked THPS3 was ported to N64, I bought it for GameCube. Seeing the cart available at stores always had me wondering who would buy that? I wonder how many it sold? I never see THPS3 on n64 at the retro game stores.
i actually got a n64 for my christmas of 2013 with a copy of thps and i played the shit outta that with my uncle. i recently got a ps1 last year in july and got the first thps and i fell in love. i can now understand why everyone hates the n64 version, and I concur that the PS1 version is much better, due to it being made for that platform specifically, but I still have a softspot for the n64 version of the original game.
Fun fact: the ps1 version of thps1 is much better than the n64 version. Better graphics, full music instead of snippet version, more content, etc. The only thing I like about the n64 version over all other systems is bc the menu music loop is that 5 second constantly looped which I prefer more. Anyway ps1 version is worth the 10-15$ on eBay. I don’t even bother with my n64 version anymore.
Thps is most of what I played on n64. I had a blast. I didn't get a Playstation until the ps2 so I didn't know there were better versions. N64 was my main console for a very long time
I think if you're in the air you'd spin and once you approach the ramp again you revert. I'd have to play it again to check because I don't usually use the buttons to spin. So I honestly wasn't looking for it.
I rented it on N64 the day it came out, we were so confused how to even jump and do tricks - and it was blockbuster, so no game manual... and it's the year 2000 so 11 year olds aren't thinking to google this sort of thing yet. We almost took it back, thinking it was broken.
I had a similar experience with the wrestling game WCW Nitro. No manual, no move list, no nothing. I exchanged it for a different copy thinking it was broken, took it home and it taught me the lesson that games can be bad 😂
THPS3 was my first of the series on Gamecube. Sunk SO many hours into that one, far more than I would ever sink into subsequent entries. So yeah, never played 1 & 2 (unless you count the GBC port of the first game) but 3 will always have a special place in my heart.
It's great and probably my favorite of the original three. I would recommend trying 2 if you ever get a chance because it's still really good and holds up well.
I always preferred the N64 version to the PS1 version of THPS1. Because the controls were more responsive. Sure not having all the music stunk, but it still was great. Can't say anything about 2 or 3...heck I beat 2 using a keyboard on a computer....and played 3 on the PS2.
I didn't like it because the controller setup on 64 just did not work for Tony Hawk. Playstation honestly has the perfect button setup for a game like Tony Hawk. Anyone else agree?
THPS and 2 are playable on the N64 wasn't as great on Dreamcast and on PS1 but its playable when 3 came to the N64 everyone was playing it on GameCube and next gen consoles so nobody gave a darn except for the loyal N64 gamers who stuck until the end
"The ice cream truck doesn't move in n64 but does in other versions" - it doesn't move in PS1 either. Surely a better comparison than comparing with next gen consoles.
I have to mention THPS3's truncated levels and lack of peds or moving objects isn't specific to the N64 version. The N64 is built off of Shaba Games PS1 version of THPS3 and the levels are near identical and obviously the PS1 version wasn't dealing with anywhere as limited as storage as N64 had to deal with. The levels are truncated or simplified for performance reasons, not only are most of the levels smaller in the PS1 version the geometry is a lot similar to cut down on polygons. (staircases being turned into ramps, curved objects becoming straight, etc) Funny enough when it comes to the competitive score attack scenes, the PS1/N64 levels are sometimes preferred as they either cut out the fluff or areas where there's not much combo lines, the best example being Canada that replaces the big OoB section that runs along the left of the starting area with new skate-able buildings, and the rail tracks instead of the suspended wooden bridge and quarter pipes. Though in these cases they're playing these levels in the Thug Pro engine modded in. The draw distance also seems to be on par with the ps1 version, arguably the fog/draw distance effects look better on N64 as it's a lot smoother drawing in distance geometry, whereas the PS1 version you can see each poly shape fade in separately. Regarding controls and game feel, so I have to preface I've only played the N64 version of THPS3 via emulation, but something is off with the game feel regardless of the controller. I set it up so I could play using a PS1 pad with the exact same mapping as the PS1 version and it still plays worse. Collision detection with objects just feels very slightly broken, but it's so subtle it's hard to describe exactly what's going wrong but you don't always attach to rails the same way, or the best example some quarter pipes/half pipes you will use and jump off like you just used a kicker not rotate 45 degrees with the quarter angle if you ollie too late, that and jumping up and out of pipes seems to not work sometimes. But I can play the PS1 version with the same controller and it even runs at a lower FPS than on N64 and the PS1 version still feels better. Feels like something with the physics and the collision detection got broke during the porting process. Only other thing is I would have mentioned in the video 3 of the 4 levels not in the PS1/N64 version of THPS3 were ported levels from THPS1 and not full campaign levels with goals or medals. Cruise ship being replaced with Downhill, which has no goals when cruiseship did, and is just a weird gimmick level to me felt far more eggregious. Oh, and DON'T FORGET THE JOKER!!!
I was lucky to have all these games on ps1 growing up, thps1 is actually the very first game I have memory of playing. however as a teenager I had lost my PlayStation and all my games, but I did have a 64, and a copy of the first 2 games and I had no problem playing the games and completing them 100% on that console. The soundtrack sucked, but I just muted it and played music on my stereo instead. The instant loading screens actually encouraged me to try speed running the first game and I had a blast trying to beat my own time over and over and over again. When 1+2 came out I had so much fun with it that I started collecting for ps2 now I’ve got the superior version of every game and I’m not going back to n64, but as a broke teenager with no money for retro collecting it got the job done and then some. Over the years there’s no other series I’ve put as many hours into and I keep coming back to it. I appreciate your content and passion for the games. Interesting you say 3 is your favorite it’s actually my least favorite of the ps2 era titles. I still love it it’s just at the bottom of my list. I’d probably have to put THUG at the top.
I prefer the n64 version of the first two games. Better textures, better framerate, better resolution. No dithering. The audio quality is not as good, granted, but none of them have aged well
I gotta agree with you. I grew up on the n64 and remember playing thps 1 and 2 all the time and loved it. I don't remember songs being neutered and controls sucking as I was just a kiddo having fun. Lol. I remember playing thps 2 on PC and n64, maybe I got it twice lol.
I feel stupid for asking this but I recently got the original for n64. Why the hell can't I manuel? Somebody help. I'm pressing up and down or down and up and nothing!!!
Absolutely thank you! It was driving me nuts! I'm 31 and I was 10 when it came out. I'm playing with my 6 year old daughter and I'm like, "wait until I manuel and grind and get a nice combo". LMAO
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 will always be my favorite sports game of all time. Never played 1 + 2 as a kid so the 2020 remakes were brand new to me in every way.
im a weird person and got the n64 version of thps 2 because its all my game store had lol i do agree with this video though. especially the controller part.
Nintendo should've bought Factor's 5 MusyX codec in order to be the main audio development tool for all the N64 Dev kits, I guarantee that all the music could've fit with good quality, also convert assets and textures from disc based games to the N64 peculiar texture cache was a pain. No studio would want to redesign everything from scratch just for the N64.
I remember trying the PS1 version of THPS3 and my god almighty it made me NEVER want to touch it ever again. Really reminds me of that whole black ops debacle on the 360 and PS3 a few years back. I'm still amazed something like that was still happening all those years later.
I feel like they would have done better if they made the game from the ground up instead of trying to port it, just like what happens with portable ports of games.
The first Tony Hawk game I ever played was THPS 2 on N64. Once I did play the PS1 version, I realized that I hated the lack of a real video intro and how the music sounded, but I thought gameplay wise it was a great time. No noticeable differences in gameplay between that and the PS1 version I played later at friend's houses and stuff besides just the controller not being the same, but I did use the D pad and I started on N64 so maybe I'm just biased. PS1 games in the series also had pretty short draw distances, that wasn't just typical N64 fog in this case. I actually kind of miss it in THPS 1+2 now because it's a little overwhelming having everything loaded at once. Objectives just bleed into the background sometimes.
I think the N64 versions of Tony Hawk and most 3rd party games are accomplishments in themselves. As PS1 was lead platform due to popularity, it received the most attention and optimisation from publishers top AAA studios and most talented programmers. The N64 versions were farmed out to a smaller studios with less resources, reduced time, budget and had to deal with severe cartridge memory restraints: 8-12MB in most cases to fit a whole game including music/sound is insane. In addition to that the system was rock hard to develop for. Kudos to the team.
Imagine if the N64 had 1GB cartridges It might have been the best console of that generation, 'cause many legendary good games we knew for PlayStation would've been exclusively for N64 meaning they'd even have more content and better graphics
The devs should have found a way to calibrate and translate the D-Pad controls to better fit the N64’s analog stick. It would’ve been hard and different, but the additional work would’ve paid off
I never played the N64 ports until I was way older but THPS on PS1 was my favorite game as a kid. The entire franchise will forever be my favorite franchise of all time. Even tho THPS5 was a complete fail it may have opened the door to more remakes and that’s definitely something I look forward to seeing.
is that little rant you did about Dead Kennedys why you never sing at all the karaoke things we've been to
You bet it is
I your coworkers can't appreciate some Dead Kennedys in their karaoke parties, get better coworkers.
Yikes
@@Under10Hours From pure curiosity , does the n64 include the level editor? I remember having the ps1 version and it had a 3d map builder.
@@thesteammachine1282it does i think
Funny how the last N64 game was one of the launch titles for Gamecube.
Haha the circle of life
Same thing with the WiiU and Switch
@@G.Freeman92 The VERY LAST game? Sure, one of the final ones, but not THE EXACT LAST game.
I played the crap out of some thps3 on the cube. LOVED IT. I know this is your channel under10 but holy moly you know how to complain lol
Is it funny or did you just want people to know that you know that?
I was so pissed when we didn't get THPS3 on the Dreamcast :(
Had I not been hellbent on getting a Gamecube for Christmas that year, I would have been as well. THPS 1 and 2 were some of my most played Dreamcast games.
@Paul Bell Not really, back then every company can still release news games till 2009 before GD Production ends like happen in japan when came out new games from DC till 2007.
you probably didn't know the dreamcast was a dead project then
@@dilated2020 the Dreamcast is still getting games from SEGA in brazil I think. So, 'dead' is not entirely true.
@@dilated2020there were still a ton of games released on dreamcast in 2001
There are plenty of complaints to be had about the N64 joystick, but the D-pad? Gotta disagree there. The neutered sound track is the biggest offender, then the lack of movies.
I played the entirety of tony hawk's pro skater 2, every goal, with two characters, using the d-pad.
The n64's d-pad causes great discomfort if you use it extensively. My left thumb genuinely hurt quite a bit from it. It's so angular, and tall. It dug into my thumb quite a lot.
Also lack of videos on TV screens in game. Always thought it looked cool. I heard Dreamcast is best version, though PS1 is awesome aswell. Maybe N64 just couldnt hold soundfiles with lyrics or something?
@@matrix91234 N64 cartridges hold significantly less data than CD's, so the songs were shortened, compressed and looped to fit the cart. Videos were out of the question.
@@DCourtwreck N64 cartridges could hold from between 4 and 64MB, PS1 CD's held ~650MB
It's definitely better with disc versions. I used to own the N64 version first unfortunately.
There is one thing that made me a little proud to have the N64 versions back then and it was the almost instant loading. If those cartridges had more storage space, the N64 would have definitely been the better console in term of performances.
Nintendo always has some shortcoming weighing down their innovations
@@selfaware7617 True, same issue with the GameCube discs too, which are the size of a mini DVD.
I'd take even a minute of loading for a better game. Less load times for worse graphics, sound, and music is not worth it at all.
I got to work security at the Warped Tour one year and didn't recognize any of the bands, but luckily Goldfinger played my stage near the end of the night and I got to hear Superman live and up-close. It instantly took me back to being a kid playing THPS1 lol
The N64 versions also lacked those real videos of the skaters. Those made the game worth playing multiple times with different skaters. Also, a few years ago Chad Muska ollied over me at a skatepark and I stood atop the real life Leap of Faith the same year my girlfriend and I took a skate trip to Burnside Skatepark (we skated there all night).
Rip Burnside
@@Matanumi Burnside is still around. The Leap of Faith is gone though
I remember playing the first 2 on N64, never knew they were inferior to the others cuz I had no concept of a "bad game"
I mean... The PS1 is half as powerful than the N64 and looks even worse. the only good thing about the PS1 version is the music quality
Yeah, but more memory because Disc
And the fmv skate videos, bails videos. That was a huge part of the presentation
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So basically you prefer the blurry N64 version to the pixelated but sharp PS1 version?
I'd imagine there's way too much travel on a N64 analogue stick to play Tony Hawk comfortably, than on a PS or even a Dreamcast controller.
That's definitely part of the issue. The travel on it makes it tough to do manuals and special tricks and link the two together. It's not unusable, but there are just better ways to play if you're looking to play today.
Also, I'm a huge fan! Thank you for watching!
@@Under10Hours No worries dude, great video BTW.
@@Larry thank you!
@@Under10Hours That's why you use the dpad. it's more accurate anyway. I always played with the stick as a kid and wondered why it was so bad. But i've played the whole game with the dpad and had alot of fun.
@@yore5 Agreed once I started using the D-pad I started doing way better, much like in the original Resident Evil games.
Thps1-2-3 on N64 is my whole childhood. For me in my head. It looked exactly like the newer remake looks today
why does everyone say this lol
@@catethps because back then we didn't know better and kids get entertained with the simplest stuff. Besides this wasn't "simple" back then either
Right lol what is this
@@catethps Cuz they nailed it with the remakes
Facts it was 4K 60fps😂😂😂
I thought they looked and ran better than the ps1 titles, but that’s just me. Was never a fan of the weird warping textures on ps1
That's a good point. I played the PSone versions after I made the video. I preferred how they played and how there were videos playing on the levels, but the warping was definitely a bit jarring.
HRGF but if you can’t actually play it, then what’s the point? The PlayStation version is just better to actually physically PLAY
HRGF you played the remaster yet?
@Paul Bell 1+2 isnt comparable to actually playing the originals, it plays like an entirely different game just with the same levels and goals
2x is probably the best version of the original 2 games
@Paul Bell i know, its the one i dont own but wish i did ;(
When I was a kid I only had an N64, so I ended up with the N64 versions of THPS1 and 2. I had remembered hearing Papa Roach's Blood Brothers in the second game playing it at my cousin's house, so imagine my confusion when I was scrolling through the track list trying to find that song, only for it to be completely absent. I thought my game was broken or something. I was too young to understand that a cartridge meant less space. I also thought RATM's Guerilla Radio actually went "ALL....BWECCHHH....CAN'T STOP US NOW"...only to later realize it's a censored version of "ALL....HELL....CAN'T STOP US NOW". Really Nintendo? Can't even say the word "hell", the most non swear swear word there is? Needless to say I felt pretty jipped on the music side of things. The games were still playable, for me at least, but the PlayStation/PC/Dreamcast versions will always be superior, if for nothing else than having the full track list.
Yeah all of the censoring is pretty jarring after you play the other versions. When I was a kid I never understood why N64 ports were E and the others were T.
Now I get it haha
The music loops on N64 too so it’s not enjoyable
@@Under10Hours I didn’t realize there was a third verse in some of the songs. Until years later I listened to the soundtrack I was confused where all this extra song came from...lol
As a kid I only had N64 and all of my friends had N64. So I never got to play the superior PS1 versions. But I'm so glad they did their damndest to port these iconic games to the less powerful console. So many of us would not have experienced them at all otherwise.
The ps1 versions were nowhere near as superior as the dreamcast versions
I kinda want to try the first game on N64. Edit: I GOT IT!
You should! It's not super hard to find either. It's still a great game, it's just got some downsides on N64. Still worth playing for sure.
I'm glad ive never played tony hawk 2 and 3 on N64. I have the first game on N64 and I loved playing it when it came out.
Get an emulator they are great and a rom to play it :)
It’ll be worth finding since it was simple with gameplay!
@@Under10Hours I got it around Christmas 2020.
Three of the four "removed" levels are just ports from THPS1, which are there because you couldn't play them on the 6th gen consoles. It wouldn't make sense to put those levels on a game that looks like the original one and has the same engine. The only thing really missing is the Cruise Ship, and while it's a shame, there's no way the N64 and PSX would ever run a level like that without being a complete abomination.... and the Downhill Rio is just terrible too.
However, I think Shaba Games actually did a good job on the THPS3 PSX port. Yes, it should have never come out on the N64 because of its inumerous limitations, but it _works_ on the Playstation. Sure, there are differences, but most of the compensations are well thought, like Canada's extra areas, Rio's balconies -- hell, the Foundry is actually better to skate on the PSX version with those tubes that go around the entire level!!
Please don’t take me the wrong way as I'm not dissing the content, I just think that the PSX port is really underappreciated and it doesn't deserve to be put on the same spot as the N64 port-of-a-port.
Oh I agree and I'm sorry if it came across as dissing the PSone version. I only mentioned it in the video after researching the differences between the two gens. I played that port on my Vita after I made the video and it's way more serviceable than the N64. I ended up playing the whole PSone port after, and it was a way better experience
And hey, if you disagree with me that's cool. I don't make the videos to be told I'm right 😂
I like talking about the games whether you all think I'm right or wrong haha
@@Under10Hours it's only ok to diss the newer THPS games! 😂
@@Under10Hours I think I came across as just saying negative things, but I really love the subject and the quality of the video. I'm digging through obscure (and mostly terrible) Tony Hawk ports as well lately, currently playing PSP's Project 8 classic mode... maaaaan does that feel weird hahaha
@@TimmyRamone Agreed hahaha
Just managed to, for the first time, emulate the Dreamcast. Huge thanks to the makers of reDream, the simplest emulator that allowed me to play a much better looking version of the game I played a whole lot growing up, THPS 2 on the PlayStation.
Going from The N64 and the GC version of THPS3 is literally like night and day. It's insane just how different they are and how much better the game looks and controls on the latter console.
Of course N64 and GCN are different generations of hardware 🙄
the only good thing the n64 ports have is speedrunning
No music, no video, bad controls which is why the psx versions won.
My favorite game that you never mentioned was the psx version of thps4, it is like thps2 but with spine transfers, pivots, balance on lip tricks, triple flips and swapping grinds. I never knew it existed so i played it years later on emulator and i was shocked how good it was.
It is halfway through the year 2024 and I don't know if I was EVER aware that there was an N64 port of THPS3...
I enjoyed this video a lot! What would be the best versions? I played 2 and thugpro on my pc but the framerate is quite abysmal. Are the original xbox versions any good?
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you liked it!
I think the rest come down to either what you have access to or what you prefer. Each have upsides and downsides, but some aren't too different from others.
Personally I think the Dreamcast has a great port of 1 because of the better audio quality in the music, 2 is probably best as part of 2x on the Xbox because of the graphics, and 3 is best on PS2 and Xbox because it was developed mainly for those systems.
So the only one I really played on the Nintendo 64 was THPS2. Even though we were kids and mainly owned a Playstation, we knew there was a clear difference between the PS1 and the N64. The PS1 version is superior to the N64 version in every way.
N64 looks miles better than the PS1. I grew up with the N61 version of Pro Skater 1 and I never had any trouble using the controller. I had THPS2 on PS1 sure, but I ended up getting the N64 version of that too just because I liked the yellow cartridge (yep). THPS3 I got on the PS2, didn't bother with the watered down versions until I grew up and got the N64 version to complete the trilogy and see what it'd be like on 5th gen consoles.
Basically besides the music, I don't see what this guy's talking about on 1 and 2, and I think THPS3 looks and plays just as plain as the PS1 version
@@RossWyatt seconded...THPS 2 N64 features an additional track too
This is why the Dreamcast for 1 and 2 was superior to the PS1 and N64. Btw, the N64 Version for music had more censorship which was one way to achieve Rated E and then removed blood which was another for Rated E.
any chance you can link to the background music you used?
Here you go! It's also been added to the description
open.spotify.com/album/6qMkqHHLmGfgqTKDyxVVCf?si=o4f5XSy6T9qc-Mra6Zm5tg
Never bothered me as a kid on the 64.
4:29 that sounded a little too personal to be off-cuff...
I only ever had the first game on N64. Loved it and never had any idea it was the lesser version.
I grew up playing the PS1 versions of 1&2 usually at my friend house. I played THPS 3 at another friends house on the PS2 and it blew my mind. I only had an N64 at the time so when I picked up THPS games on N64 I was puzzled why half the songs were missing and were butchered. Kinda ruined it for me
Amazing video. Do you still have that Vita? lol, I've been wanting to buy one ever since I lost my old one.
Thanks for watching! And yes I do! It's been awesome now that I've hacked it.
Load times on n64 were amazing
Uuuummmmmm, how’d you get thps on a ps vita??? I do t see them on the store.
Haha trade secret 😉
No my Vita is hacked and modded to run the ROMs and ISOs of a bunch of different consoles. The Vita can run most PSone games perfectly, and it's been a ton of fun having these classics in my pocket.
under10hours thanks I’ll look into it.
I grew up with these ports of 1 and 2, as well, and have only seen gameplay of their ports on other consoles. The one thing you could've pointed out going back to these, both in n64 emulators and on original hardware, is how slow the loading times are. I don't know how bad they are on other ports, but it just feels like you're waiting forever for every level to load or to even get to the main menu. The lack of FMV's is a huge thing, too, since seeing the skaters clips were part of the rewards for beating the games, so there's a generation of people who only had the n64 ports of these games that never got to see any of the skater's parts.
Also, this is something weird that I couldn't ever confirm, but in Pro Skater 3, is the song "Let's Get Dirty" censored differently on any of the GameCube, Xbox and PC ports? There's lines that say:
"My dress code is all black
When I'm makin the moves
Similar to the new PlayStation 2"
I swear I've heard the console name PS2 be censored in a gameplay video of the game, but I can't find the video and don't have any copies/consoles other than the PS2 version to check on.
Is it true the expansion pak increases the framerate in these games, or does it just give the option of having a higher resolution (at the potential cost of framerate)?
I'm currently playing thps3 on my everdrive and I notice the music issue. Del the funky homosapian song cuts the chorus completely and they only have the first 45 seconds of Aaf song.
Digital foundry seems to think n64 is rendered better! It’s like SCREW YOU the n64 doesn’t render at high enough res to do that much antialiasing and has super low res textures so the whole thing looks blurred and colours bland
If you played with the d pad like an OG the first THPS was great on N64
If Police Truck really didn't have any lyrics, what did you even plan to do once you got up there?? Great vid though, I've been watching a bunch of THPS videos to get hype for THPS 1+2
Thanks for watching!
The plan was to be like when that video of the guy singing "Tequila" stared dead-eyed into the audience until he actually got to say the word, but with me just staring into the audience for two and a half minutes. Then I'd walk away.
Did the number 3 version come out in Australia?
Maybe you might be using a 3rd party N64 controller, which explains why the directional buttons aren't as accurate as you expect. Perhaps an OEM Nintendo 64 controller has the most accurate directional buttons, so I highly suggest you get one if you haven't.
Not to mention the skaters are a tad lighter on N64 than on the disc-based versions of the first THPS. Some players prefer the N64 version due to this reason, allowing for a slightly-floaty game feel.
Without a PC version, the first THPS game's best version for speedrunning is surprisingly the N64 version considering the lack of load times. THPS2 and 3 had official PC ports, and their load times can be minimized if a no-CD patch is installed.
THPS3 actually came out in 2002 if you can believe that. I grew up playing the first game on N64 and I loved it. Butchered music and all, it's those versions that are most nostalgic for me. That and, as you said, it controlled reasonably well on N64. Geoff Rowley has always been my guy in these games. Played 2 on PS1 and 3-THUG on GameCube.
I feel like you're being very unjust in your arguments. The music being scaled down is pretty obvious but graphic wise, it is pretty much on par with the PS1 if not better. All three gamed also recieves a performance boost with the expansion pak. Draw distance isn't good on the two first games on any system, save for maybe the Dreamcast or XBOX so with the third being bad is just because it uses old tech.
7:01 Despite the 3D stick being a thing for the N64, the N64 port of THPS3 doesn't have camera control functionality, and no option to remap the 3D stick to move the camera. It's best to play the PlayStation version of THPS3 or the other platforms for camera control.
Bro, when you had an N64 you didn’t notice or care. Music sounded awesome. We were stoked to have real songs on the system and just excited to have Tony Hawk!! Gotta love those remixes!!!!
Playing the 1st for N64 now. With the expansion pak it looks pretty good. Soundtrack and lack of videos suck, but the lack of load times is pretty great. Overall id say its pretty solid!
Does anyone know what brand that red hoodie is at 1:34?? I can for the life of me remember the name of it and it’s killing me lol
i loved THPS 2 on the N64 so much !! Of course there were fewer songs, and the videos were missing ... But the graphics were much better than on the PS1 ... And the missing songs didn't bother me, I had a CD player
3:24 There is a goal where you have to perform a quarterpipe transfer across the pillar containing a wire. Once this is done, the wire will snap, and the pillar will fall to crush and destroy the ice cream truck, slowing down its music as a result. This is needed to collect the secret tape without any jetpack cheats.
Are those your MIDI arrangements? I like them
I'm sure the N64 could have played some decent samples of all those instruments, and shorten the vocal audio tracks (if available seperately)
Wouldn't be awesome sound quality but my point is that the songs didn't need to be edited (even if the lyrics really did need to be taken out)
Thursday, August 3, 2023 CE, 20:57 EDT
how did you play thps on ps vita? were they delisted?
Revisted THPS2 on my N64 when I finished the 1+2 Remake. And I was absolutely done with it when a simple wall ride 5 bells seemed like the most impossible thing to do.
I think the release of the n64 version of 3 is interesting being the last released game on the system and it was the only game released for the system in 2002. Yes it’s horrible compared to the other versions... but the fact it was released at all was a miracle info itself. That makes it interesting to me, the question on why it released to begin with
Over time the Dpad on the N64 gets worse. I can definitely see it affecting gameplay. All you gotta do is clean the rubber membranes on it though to restore it. I soak them in warm soapy water then dry and put it back in the controller. The issue you were describing definitely sounded similar to an issue I had with Mischief makers recently but was fixed once i thoroughly cleaned the Dpad. :)
Woah how did you get it on your vita?
I hacked it! It's a pretty simple process if you watch some guides, but it has full PSP and PSone compatibility!!
@@Under10Hours I'm scared to hack mine, I bought a hacked psp a while ago, the seller didn't know it was hacked so I'm sticking with that but I was just curious if it was hacked if you just knew of a way to side load games lol
@Michel O'Hara oh definitely don't do anything you're not comfortable with! But unfortunately I don't know of a way to sideload. But if you're ever interested in hacking definitely look up Tech James
What impressed me the most with the N64 versions of THPS2-3 is the sound quality of the music, sure it’s a butchered up versions of the songs but it sounded very “CD” sounding unlike THPS1 which sounds compressed.
I played the first game on the N64 and loved it! I rented the second one for N64 because I knew I’d eventually have a Dreamcast to buy the second one for. That said they were solid ports. I was shocked THPS3 was ported to N64, I bought it for GameCube. Seeing the cart available at stores always had me wondering who would buy that? I wonder how many it sold? I never see THPS3 on n64 at the retro game stores.
i actually got a n64 for my christmas of 2013 with a copy of thps and i played the shit outta that with my uncle. i recently got a ps1 last year in july and got the first thps and i fell in love. i can now understand why everyone hates the n64 version, and I concur that the PS1 version is much better, due to it being made for that platform specifically, but I still have a softspot for the n64 version of the original game.
Fun fact: the ps1 version of thps1 is much better than the n64 version. Better graphics, full music instead of snippet version, more content, etc. The only thing I like about the n64 version over all other systems is bc the menu music loop is that 5 second constantly looped which I prefer more. Anyway ps1 version is worth the 10-15$ on eBay. I don’t even bother with my n64 version anymore.
Because it's a cartridge I prefer it, the disks often end up scratched or disk warp and so on.
Don't forget load times
Thps is most of what I played on n64. I had a blast. I didn't get a Playstation until the ps2 so I didn't know there were better versions. N64 was my main console for a very long time
5:58 you cant do that in psx version.
It’s not the controller that suck, it’s just the player that cant handle
I have the third on 64. weird how I had the first on psx and the second on DC. never played the following gen versions of 3 or 4.
If you ever get the opportunity to, definitely play 3 and 4 on PS2 or Xbox!
@@Under10Hours might have the ps2 still but definitely not xbox.
That's still a great place to play it!
THPS 3 is the best one on PS2/xbox. Better on PS2 because of the controller.
What button was revert cus there was jus l and r no l2 r2
It was the right shoulder button
Oh weird wpuld u spin in the air if u pressed it or was it jus revert..I never playd 3 on my 64 didnt know it even existed
I think if you're in the air you'd spin and once you approach the ramp again you revert. I'd have to play it again to check because I don't usually use the buttons to spin. So I honestly wasn't looking for it.
THPS 3 didn't come out on N64 here in the UK, apparently it only came out on N64 in America.
I rented it on N64 the day it came out, we were so confused how to even jump and do tricks - and it was blockbuster, so no game manual... and it's the year 2000 so 11 year olds aren't thinking to google this sort of thing yet. We almost took it back, thinking it was broken.
I had a similar experience with the wrestling game WCW Nitro. No manual, no move list, no nothing. I exchanged it for a different copy thinking it was broken, took it home and it taught me the lesson that games can be bad 😂
This was fantastic! Your commentary/editing were on point
Thanks so much! I'm glad you liked it!
Did I hear an 8 bit track of superman in the background?
I wonder what’re your thoughts on the PS1 port of Pro Skater 3?
This! 😍 8:30
It's genuinely very hard to play through the viewfinder hahaha
THPS3 was my first of the series on Gamecube. Sunk SO many hours into that one, far more than I would ever sink into subsequent entries.
So yeah, never played 1 & 2 (unless you count the GBC port of the first game) but 3 will always have a special place in my heart.
It's great and probably my favorite of the original three. I would recommend trying 2 if you ever get a chance because it's still really good and holds up well.
With all these facts aside I will go ahead and ask did you enjoy these three games on the Nintendo 64 for what they were?
I always preferred the N64 version to the PS1 version of THPS1. Because the controls were more responsive. Sure not having all the music stunk, but it still was great.
Can't say anything about 2 or 3...heck I beat 2 using a keyboard on a computer....and played 3 on the PS2.
I didn't like it because the controller setup on 64 just did not work for Tony Hawk. Playstation honestly has the perfect button setup for a game like Tony Hawk. Anyone else agree?
THPS and 2 are playable on the N64 wasn't as great on Dreamcast and on PS1 but its playable when 3 came to the N64 everyone was playing it on GameCube and next gen consoles so nobody gave a darn except for the loyal N64 gamers who stuck until the end
"The ice cream truck doesn't move in n64 but does in other versions" - it doesn't move in PS1 either. Surely a better comparison than comparing with next gen consoles.
I have to mention THPS3's truncated levels and lack of peds or moving objects isn't specific to the N64 version. The N64 is built off of Shaba Games PS1 version of THPS3 and the levels are near identical and obviously the PS1 version wasn't dealing with anywhere as limited as storage as N64 had to deal with.
The levels are truncated or simplified for performance reasons, not only are most of the levels smaller in the PS1 version the geometry is a lot similar to cut down on polygons. (staircases being turned into ramps, curved objects becoming straight, etc)
Funny enough when it comes to the competitive score attack scenes, the PS1/N64 levels are sometimes preferred as they either cut out the fluff or areas where there's not much combo lines, the best example being Canada that replaces the big OoB section that runs along the left of the starting area with new skate-able buildings, and the rail tracks instead of the suspended wooden bridge and quarter pipes. Though in these cases they're playing these levels in the Thug Pro engine modded in.
The draw distance also seems to be on par with the ps1 version, arguably the fog/draw distance effects look better on N64 as it's a lot smoother drawing in distance geometry, whereas the PS1 version you can see each poly shape fade in separately.
Regarding controls and game feel, so I have to preface I've only played the N64 version of THPS3 via emulation, but something is off with the game feel regardless of the controller. I set it up so I could play using a PS1 pad with the exact same mapping as the PS1 version and it still plays worse. Collision detection with objects just feels very slightly broken, but it's so subtle it's hard to describe exactly what's going wrong but you don't always attach to rails the same way, or the best example some quarter pipes/half pipes you will use and jump off like you just used a kicker not rotate 45 degrees with the quarter angle if you ollie too late, that and jumping up and out of pipes seems to not work sometimes. But I can play the PS1 version with the same controller and it even runs at a lower FPS than on N64 and the PS1 version still feels better. Feels like something with the physics and the collision detection got broke during the porting process.
Only other thing is I would have mentioned in the video 3 of the 4 levels not in the PS1/N64 version of THPS3 were ported levels from THPS1 and not full campaign levels with goals or medals. Cruise ship being replaced with Downhill, which has no goals when cruiseship did, and is just a weird gimmick level to me felt far more eggregious.
Oh, and DON'T FORGET THE JOKER!!!
List of fav TH games.
1. THUG 2 REMIX (PSP)
2. THPS 3
3. American Wasteland
4. Project 8
You have the best in the series (3), but have the 3 worst as well. (not counting Post PS2.)
TayR0C yeah but now I have THPS 1+2 which balances out everything. Lol
@bubble boi 4 was the beginning of the downfall. 3 was the peak.
Rodney Williams No 1 through 4 reeeeeeeee.
I was lucky to have all these games on ps1 growing up, thps1 is actually the very first game I have memory of playing. however as a teenager I had lost my PlayStation and all my games, but I did have a 64, and a copy of the first 2 games and I had no problem playing the games and completing them 100% on that console. The soundtrack sucked, but I just muted it and played music on my stereo instead. The instant loading screens actually encouraged me to try speed running the first game and I had a blast trying to beat my own time over and over and over again. When 1+2 came out I had so much fun with it that I started collecting for ps2 now I’ve got the superior version of every game and I’m not going back to n64, but as a broke teenager with no money for retro collecting it got the job done and then some. Over the years there’s no other series I’ve put as many hours into and I keep coming back to it. I appreciate your content and passion for the games. Interesting you say 3 is your favorite it’s actually my least favorite of the ps2 era titles. I still love it it’s just at the bottom of my list. I’d probably have to put THUG at the top.
I prefer the n64 version of the first two games. Better textures, better framerate, better resolution. No dithering. The audio quality is not as good, granted, but none of them have aged well
me too
I gotta agree with you. I grew up on the n64 and remember playing thps 1 and 2 all the time and loved it. I don't remember songs being neutered and controls sucking as I was just a kiddo having fun. Lol. I remember playing thps 2 on PC and n64, maybe I got it twice lol.
I played it on N64 exclusively because an N64 is what my family had to play games on!
Me too! I grew up on these ports!
Yeah I had thps2 on N64 I had no idea PS1 was better ad I didn't have ps1. But I got thps3 on ps2 and saw a huge jump up in quality.
I feel stupid for asking this but I recently got the original for n64. Why the hell can't I manuel? Somebody help. I'm pressing up and down or down and up and nothing!!!
Manuals weren't added until the second game
Thank you! I haven't played in 20 years and ok now I understand lol thanks again. Gonna have to get part 2 eventually.
@@b24jackson37 no problem! Definitely tough to go back to one and not be able to link combos with manuals. Still great, but very simple.
Absolutely thank you! It was driving me nuts! I'm 31 and I was 10 when it came out. I'm playing with my 6 year old daughter and I'm like, "wait until I manuel and grind and get a nice combo". LMAO
@@b24jackson37 😂😂
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 will always be my favorite sports game of all time. Never played 1 + 2 as a kid so the 2020 remakes were brand new to me in every way.
im a weird person and got the n64 version of thps 2 because its all my game store had lol
i do agree with this video though.
especially the controller part.
I remember as a kid being pissed because the “grind” sparks on THPS1 on N64 looked like gold paint lol
Nintendo should've bought Factor's 5 MusyX codec in order to be the main audio development tool for all the N64 Dev kits, I guarantee that all the music could've fit with good quality, also convert assets and textures from disc based games to the N64 peculiar texture cache was a pain. No studio would want to redesign everything from scratch just for the N64.
I remember trying the PS1 version of THPS3 and my god almighty it made me NEVER want to touch it ever again. Really reminds me of that whole black ops debacle on the 360 and PS3 a few years back. I'm still amazed something like that was still happening all those years later.
I feel like they would have done better if they made the game from the ground up instead of trying to port it, just like what happens with portable ports of games.
how are you so good at the games played on n64? I use mupen64 with hi-res and is so tough.
I loved the N64 ports when I was a kid. If I tried to do it today however I wouldn't be able to. You're right it's a game meant for PlayStation
The first Tony Hawk game I ever played was THPS 2 on N64. Once I did play the PS1 version, I realized that I hated the lack of a real video intro and how the music sounded, but I thought gameplay wise it was a great time. No noticeable differences in gameplay between that and the PS1 version I played later at friend's houses and stuff besides just the controller not being the same, but I did use the D pad and I started on N64 so maybe I'm just biased. PS1 games in the series also had pretty short draw distances, that wasn't just typical N64 fog in this case. I actually kind of miss it in THPS 1+2 now because it's a little overwhelming having everything loaded at once. Objectives just bleed into the background sometimes.
I think the N64 versions of Tony Hawk and most 3rd party games are accomplishments in themselves. As PS1 was lead platform due to popularity, it received the most attention and optimisation from publishers top AAA studios and most talented programmers. The N64 versions were farmed out to a smaller studios with less resources, reduced time, budget and had to deal with severe cartridge memory restraints: 8-12MB in most cases to fit a whole game including music/sound is insane. In addition to that the system was rock hard to develop for. Kudos to the team.
Imagine if the N64 had 1GB cartridges
It might have been the best console of that generation, 'cause many legendary good games we knew for PlayStation would've been exclusively for N64 meaning they'd even have more content and better graphics
I grew up playing THPS 1on n64 and actually preferred those controls Much more. That's just me though :)
The devs should have found a way to calibrate and translate the D-Pad controls to better fit the N64’s analog stick. It would’ve been hard and different, but the additional work would’ve paid off
"let's talk about the game feel" *rants about the controller for the rest of the video*
Same thing really...
Eric sparrow is the best villian in all of fiction.
I see nothing false about this
The secret ending of underground is the most satisfying thing in all of video games
I never played the N64 ports until I was way older but THPS on PS1 was my favorite game as a kid. The entire franchise will forever be my favorite franchise of all time. Even tho THPS5 was a complete fail it may have opened the door to more remakes and that’s definitely something I look forward to seeing.