The Laptop Hinge Problem: Designed for Failure and Fueled by Cost Cutting
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I really am getting sick of repairing broken laptop hinges. This ASUS Zenbook is a perfect example of manufacturer's cost cutting under the guise of "premium". "US Military Grade durability" Yes they use weak adhesive to attach a hinge to a thin piece of metal.
At what point will these companies simply spend the few dollars more to design a hinge that won't destroy itself? I've had hundreds of customers at my small repair shop alone switch over to MacBook's due to their build quality alone. Which means they're now locked into an ecosystem where I am unable to help them in any way if something breaks. This is a terrible trend that needs to stop.
But it won't.
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I have a 10yr old 17inch Lenovo, and it too had the same issue where the bolt threads were just ripped out and the entire display assembly would just fall off. I tried to re attach those metal threads by using a resin based glue, but it too broke within 5 tries of me opening and closing the lid.
Finally, my dad just drilled through the bottom case and glued in metal strips underneath where the hinge screws would be. And then attached the hinge using longer bolts, sandwiching the bottom case/frame between the hinge and the newly attached metal strips.
Now the screen is as solid as a rock.
Hinge problems can be resolved by one word: Metal.
@salemtechsperts your website is banned
or using good quality plastic.
@@creativestudio3816wtf do you mean his website is banned? Did you mean broken?
Metal does not automatically mean sturdy, one sample is the asuck in the vid, other is when they use plastic mold beneath the metal panel to screw the hinge in, and eventually the screw rip out those plastic part too.
@@creativestudio3816I checked it, and it is definitely not broken. So it’s either your internet, or some restrictions set up on your device.
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This happened to my sisters old Dell Inspiron. The hinges failed so spectacularly they damaged the frame. Compared to my father's solution - a couple of new holes in the bottom panel, and about a foot of steel guage wire - your solution looks so much better, lol.
I charged a buddy of mine 30 bucks for that repair on an Acer laptop, the hinges were just too stiff and slim, but the replacement surely fixed the stiffness problem.
I know it's not great but for a glue solution that would be really strong why not use jb weld? It would dry about as strong as metal, it could bond to everything and could be slightly spread out more for more contact area
Usually they break because they get too much tension during usage. I often just lubricate those hinges so they don't get too stiff. The only laptops I haven't seen that problem with were old IBM Thinkpads and some of those old Lenovos that shared their case design. Not to mention old Panasonic Toughbooks as well. Also if you open your lid by the corner it creates uneven tension in the hinges and after a long term usage causes that problem. So open your laptop in the center instead, never by the corner. Old laptops had a release tab there, they removed some time ago.
No, you loosen the hinges, not lubricate them.
4:36 I need that hoodie in my life
I remember apple had an issue with the hinge where it was stressing the display connector eventually making it break
Need to untighten the tensions of these hinges in most of my laptop repairs where those mounts are almost f***ed just to prevent further damage. Manufacturers intentionally tighten those hinges too much than the mounts can handle so that in a few months your laptop is fu***d and need to buy a new one.
Damn smooth sponsor transition.
"It will compromise the strucuture" Tell that to Boeing.
I had to retire my last HP laptop because of a broken hinge. I have an ASUS now. And it has its own set of problems.
I would ask why not actual weld the pieces together but I forgot for a bit that aluminium is hard to weld...
they could literally just make the edges metal and attach the hinges to that without makign the whole thing metal and it would be a better product.
my ideal Laptop computer: (engineers take notes)
- i want a Battery that will last just shy of forever that can be removed and replaced with no tools or laptop disassembly, in fact make them chargeable outside the computer too
- i want a hinge, screen, and lid assembly so strong i can use the laptop as a stamp press or a nutcracker
- i want the overall build quality to be so tough, thick, and heavy that i can bludgeon a burglar to death with this computer and then get right back to watching youtube brainrot
- i want it to be so technician-accessible that the Greatest Technician that Ever Lived never has to do a rant video about it
- and other than that, i only need it fast enough for singleplayer games with ok graphics because if i want photorealism i'll just pop some edibles and go outside, stuff gets VERY real and graphical there lol
i would happily pay for THAT, not some paper-thin fragile piece of glass and plastic designed with planned obsolescence and cost-cutting in mind
anyways, love your videos! and yes JB weld is the best adhesive stuff ever aside from Gorilla Tape and 3M max-strength double sided tape 😎😎
im watching this video on a hp laptop with a busted hinge
ME TOO!
HP = hinge problem 😂
Based
Same! Eveeytime i close it the display cable is in danger
Replying this on a Lenovo laptop with wonky hinge
You know it's crap when the person who is financially profitting from your crappy design complains about it. Repair is the one industry where most people in it actively rail against the bad practices making them mondy.
I blame lenovo for this.
I have a hinge that can be removed from the case. Seems so flimsy.
@@BlackKrayaEven if they did, they STILL wouldn't be able to do the repair properly because they would have the same problem again
It also makes repair harde
repair people hate shit designs that fails for no reason, ask just about any mechanic.
What’s funny is that I actually brought this issue up to Lenovo at CES and the PR rep said well if it was a known issue we issue a recall of course and I was like yeah right. There’s a reason why I fix these on the daily, it should be recalled.
Thank you for doing that! Shops like ours need a voice. I'm hoping to go to CES this year and fully expect to be given the BS PR treatment. Also I just subbed to your channel and look forward to watching your videos. We're a rare breed!
@@SalemTechsperts We are exposing CES next year! Video title, anti-repair product awards!
@@mattscomputerservices holy shit this is an amazing idea
Excited for this!
Reps on the floor don’t ackshually know the nitty gritty of how these things work. You cannot expect to have enthusiast-grade conversation with media marketing automations.
Ah yes, HP aka Hinge Problem
I was about to say Hell's Printer, but that works too.
EliteBooks are fine. Just don't buy consumer grade garbage from any brand.
@@eepyolivrr unlike the brand
More like Huge Problem
lenovo nowadays is so much worse than hp, i pick up two years ago hp pavilion with ryzen and i can't say any bad words, back then when i had lenovo its hinges were broken maybe one month after buying...
What people often don't realise is "military grade" actually translates to "lowest bidder", there's a reason most people who've been in the military use military grade as an insult to items
If you are not running fabs/factories of your own design, staffed by your own people, you are literally doing "lowest bidder". This isn't to say military grade is a good thing, its a stupid marketing term around many of the military specifications, which typically favor durability over many creature comforts depending on the item.
NASA grade durability would be infinitely more impressive and appealing, IMO:
"Our laptop can survive at least 15 years on Mars, minimum"
@@UNSCPILOTOmega watches marketing department has been furious fapping themselves to the Speedmaster being the MOON WATCH for half a century. The Watch Idiot Savants lap it up.
Even NASA isn't immune to this. I remember watching an interview with one of the Apollo astronauts, can't remember which one. He said that when it came time to launch into space, the rocket was shaking way more than any of the simulations they did. The first thought that popped into his head was "Everything here was made by the lowest bidder."
While the shorts are fun, seeing detailed breakdowns of repairs and such with your sense of humour and gradually degrading mental state makes long-form videos the Greatest Videos That Ever Lived.
I lol'd at "Gradually degrading mental state". It's 100% true
@@SalemTechsperts Hahah, glad to make you smile!
Though I'm not sure if it's more accurate to say the degradation is gradual or rapid.
@@SalemTechspertsI love watching your Shorts, and this is the first long form I've watched from you, and I enjoyed it!
Thanks for acknowledging that the design problem does not come from the engineering but from the accountant... as an engineer myself, I can garantee you we see problems and want to fix them, but it is refused because the price increase of the part and engineering development...
the last time I was this early, Andy was the worst technician that's ever lived
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The stupidest thing is that the solution used until ~10 years ago was just to put a small frame around the LCD display, where the hinges were screwed to. It was a few *milimeters* thicker, but robust, cheap and repairable. Apple's screens (and similars) can't be dissasambled, so they are more expensive to repair
Probably an extra 75 cents are just too much for them to spend
@@tsorevitch2409 their use of literally glue seems to confirm that...
Honestly they could get away with glue if they used a better quality glue and a bigger footprint.
*(**9:58**)* - He's not even complaining about how they hid screws underneath the rubber feet, which itself should be considered a manufacturing hate crime. Poor dude has already accepted that atrocity.
I'm so glad you noticed that lmao
What's so bad about that? Just curious. I like that it keeps the screws hidden and i can just pop them back into place after im done
@@AliviaSherrill You're not gonna be looking at screws anyway since they're on the bottom. It's just a waste of time to get them off. None of the screws on my current laptop are hidden under rubber feet, which means I can take the bottom off much quicker and with less hassle, which can translate to significant time savings for professionals. I think you're also supposed to replace the adhesive if you don't want them to fall off later on, which would be a total pain. Idk how common it is to do that though; I haven't replaced the adhesive on my 2014 HP Envy after taking it apart multiple times and the feet still stay on, though the adhesive is noticeably weaker now.
Ey! I've still got my HP Envy from 2014 as well! Battery needs life support buy still goes well
@@AliviaSherrill Screws don't need to be hidden. Even garbage companies like apple know this. Nobody in the world looks at the bottom of a laptop and thinks "eww i can see screws! im not gonna buy this" not one person cares about visible screws so why make it a pain to take it apart by hiding them?
As a Framework 13 owner, I can confirm that these hinges are screwed in the aluminium body. :-)
Framework also sells hinge-upgrades with different open-resistances. If you prefer to open your laptop with one hand, then pick the 3.3kg hinges. If the display is to floppy on public transport, then install the 4.0kg hinges. If you want something in-between, you can pick the 3.5kg hinges.
My next laptop is definitely going to be a framework 1000%
the problem is not all of us have like a million to spend on a "repairable" laptop
@@hiddenguy67 It was about 1400 USD, for the I5-1340p, 32GB DDR4 and 2TB Samsung 980 pro nvme SSD.
I estimate equivalent non-repairable alternative laptops, would be about 30% cheaper.
I however prefer a device that lasts, and is repairable.
@@timmy7201 I'm spending around 300 pounds for a gtx 1070ti and a ryzen 5 1600 with 1tb of nvme ssd and 16gb ram, what is that price value
@@hiddenguy67 Seems alright, if it's a full second hands system with motherboard and PSU included.
If it's without PSU and motherboard, then avoid as it's overpriced...
My laptop hinge broke yesterday from the lid. I drilled holes in the lid and fixed the laptop with zipties. It is stronger than the original mount
That's one way to do it, but you compromise on aesthetics
@@harigovind3229 Y'know how else you can compromise aesthetics?
Breaking a hinge.
Y'know what's really easy to do on modern laptops?
Break the hinge.
@@harigovind3229 That is completely fine.That stupid thing never looked good anyways and i´d rather have it still working perfectly, than having a broken display xD
@@RipRLeeErmey True, but it is already 6 (almost 7) years old. Aaand it was made by Acer. I think that explains everything xD
@@natedrake7507 you managed to keep an acer laptop 7 years without it refusing to charge because the barrel socket gave up the ghost? That laptop must be practically unique
Thinkpads don't have that problem, but starting from around 2018 the quality has dropped so much that they can't properly be called "thinkpads" anymore. But at least they kept the steel hinges and magnesium subframe.
I'm not even sure if the X1 carbons are still made with carbon fibers anymore. I had an old thinkpad, an E series thinkpad. The E series thinkpad is the lowest end level, but Lenovo still has balls when they made it back in 2013 and it's actually still has quite a good construction, yes sure the hinges are more floppy but it's still okay overall, until it started to fall off bacause how I used it. Fixed it for several times but then it broke for the last time and I thought that all of the repair money can buy a new second hand laptop, so I ended up buying the dell latitude 5400. Quite nice laptop with good build quality
ASUS keeps changing the pronunciation! They've officially changed the pronunciation at least twice. You're not wrong for not knowing how it's pronounced, when even they don't know. For what it's worth, the name comes from the mythical animal pegASUS & that was originally how they said it should be pronounced, but the company themselves have also said it was pronunced ace-us, I think now they're going with aye-soose
Ok so I’m not losing my fucking mind then 😂 THATS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT. I remember it was Peg-ASUS. Then Google told me Asoos. Glad to know I’m not losing my mind
me : it's a-SUS
@@SalemTechsperts "ASS-us" is probably more apt.
@@paulg5441 In the actual raw footage it went from Ay-sus, to Yay-sus, to Hay-zeus, to Hay-zeus, to Yeezus, and ended with Kanye West at the end but cut it from the video
It's Ass Sus. Speaks highly of their quality control
10:24 that perfect smooth brain look. How i feel Everytime i open up a laptop to discover new ways that engineers enjoy screwing over techs.
why can't the build quality of windows laptops in general just increase more? its not like the price has ever dropped drastically, and yet companies just keep putting stupid quality builds unless you pay an extremely high sum. sort of stupid.
Exactly, it’s infuriating.
even more infuriating is when you paid so much money and you still have the same problem. IM LOOKING AT YOU HP
@@SeiberGraffco That's why HP stands for Hinge Problem. 😂
@@SeiberGraffcoHP is one of the most anti-consumer companies to exist they are 10x worse than Apple
Maybe it's analogous to how many AAA game studios focus on all the high tech graphics, to the point where they ignore story quality and game optimization.
I've seen many Windows laptops (and also Android phones, specifically the budget ones) focus so much on the latest and greatest tech, but ignore basic necessities like UI or UX. You see this also with pre-packaged software, like the Nvidia control panel which has not been updated since the last half century.
Meanwhile I'd say Apple has the opposite problem, creating a great baseline experience (solid hinges, screens, battery life, great speakers, trackpad) but failing to move past tradition and certain outdated practices (like the lightning port or $200 RAM, like what is this 2006?)
The worst of it all is that manufacturers will not give warranty, and tell customers that it's user abuse.
I've repaired so many hinges, all we can do is replace and loosen and hope for the best, terrible designs.
The greatest technician that ever lived deserves 1M subs
These laptop manufacturers are doing wonders for Framework marketing
Which is a good thing because, with all due respect, Framework's marketing is embarrassing bad.
@@SalemTechsperts True, I haven't seen any advertising aside from some reviews from tech youtubers. That's great for getting tech enthusiasts interested, but I think they'll need to market to the general public more if they really want to change the industry
@@BrickDaddy420honestly they need this sort of stuff to convince people that a improved hinge is important
Yes, that's exactly right, when you fix or sell a laptop for your customer, you are expected to be the personal tech support afterwards
but that is the life of the greatest technician thats ever lived
Planned obsolescence bro. They don't want it to be serviceable. They don't want it to last 10 years. They want you buying new laptops every few years
consumers deserve:
the
greatest..
hinge mount...
..that's ever lived..
pin me. or i come to your house with 1000 lenovo yoga's
I lol’d
I am truly trying to find a laptop that’s is cheep for gaming and rendering but unfortunately, unfortunately I can’t find any because they were on sell and boom gone and gone. And when I see this video got me very upset why apple and Razer have no issues with hinges? I have an old 7 year old lovono laptop and I am trying to get a better one but now I can see why because many people keep breaking there stuff or accidentally. This is why gaming laptops are so expensive because greedy moron companies want for them selves
3:07 when the screws rip out DEEZ NUTS 😂😂👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
I don't know how you screw up brass inserts like that. The plastic must be extremely cheap.
This vid, specifically, made me sub the channel.
Your demeanor and commentary made during non-voiceover segments really highlight your passion and dedication to your work, as well as your unwillingness to compromise on quality, which...that is European Extreme difficulty.
This level of frustration displayed shows you do care for your customers, even while scolding them for expecting a repair person to endless spoonfeeding regarding basic computer operation. It's "tough love" but a savior to their pocketbook. and it is impossible to not get frustrated at end users and engineers/companies who keep shitting the bed after dealing with stuff for long enough.
The fact you're still doing this, and haven't let this break your spirit enough to half-ass every repair job, is admirable.
Keep on keeping on, Greatest Technician That's Ever Lived(tm)!
loving the accual videos lol.
better than shorts
I know, but Shorts allowed me to grow my subscribers so it was a delicate balance. I much prefer long form
@@SalemTechspertsit be like that sometimes
@jaydenleckpa8381 Not to the extent I'm doing now. Shorts are too time consuming with very little financial reward, and actually damage the long-form videos in terms of watch time. Hence why creators do either one or the other.
Basically none of the business grade laptops have this issue, either, because they aren't chasing aesthetics and thinness. Dell still sells laptops to corporate IT departments with the old "thick" hinge that runs the length of the display. Manufacturers know there's no real recourse if an individual's laptop breaks out of warranty, but they still ship the design they know is better when they think it might have consequences.
even then they are slowly racing to the bottom. I have 2 dell latitudes built 3 years apart and the newer one has a keyboard that you can't replace without replacing the whole front bezel, has lost the lenovo style trackpoint and has a way shittier feeling keyboard in general.
These buisness grade Dell laptops that you speak of the hinge break on the screw mounts of the palmrest assembly. It's funny that you should mention dell. That brand is most notorious for broken hinges. SPECIALLY THE BUSINESS GRADE ones.
dells are also breaking at the hinges, there are thousands of complaints online
My was dell business one got hinge issue too, few months back
Well, Dell has been a dumpster fire for the last few years. The MBAs probably looked at the crap HP was making and concluded they should follow HP instead. My god, we bought some Dell Vostros for some coporate clients and -man alive- its was like we bought a $200 nameless HP laptops.
Nothing hit harder than hearing about how it's a repairman's job to fix problems caused by the manufacture. The worst of these laptops are the ones that put the hinges underneath the motherboard, which was some of the worst design choices I've seen.
I also saw a lot of laptops like this at my old job. One preventive attempt I made was to open up the hinge and clean out any crud that was in there and loosen it a little to hopefully make it move a little easier and require less force to open it. Of coarse, I would always tell the customer they'll be back if they don't start being careful.
I also concur with the frustrations of customers expecting computer repairmen to tutor them on basic maintenance. It was always frustrating, but I know it's because it's the people that came from a generation that didn't see a computer until they started working in an office, and that machine wasn't taken care of. It's one of those things that should be taught in school like taxes and changing the tire on a car.
How would you go about cleaning the hinge? Isopropyl Alcohol?
@@rotatorcuffs8140 Naa, just the nearest toothbrush that doesn’t normally go in your mouth
Probably the only repair shop in which would love to work😂
What I usually do is drill holes through the case or lid cover and attach the hinge with screws.
Yeah that’s another option
@@SalemTechsperts it doesn't look pretty, but fancy screws are not easy to come by. Unless you own a lathe and truckload of patience.
@@handlemissing3d print a somewhat nice cover for them 🤷♂️
Last thing I needed to see is a broken hinge on a laptop... You love to see it, that it's so God damn common... This is why I tell pepz "buy used business laptops". Gah.
I would add, not too used on to that. I bought a really old business laptop for cheap. It was pretty good for the price, but the SSD had barely any storage space and needed replacing. That and some keys on the keyboard failed, I'm guessing from sheer use.
I dunno if you had a celebration or if im just late, but happy 1 mil also hinges suck
I like the longer format videos.
Same
Long format=more money?
But also more work ig
US military-grade durability 2:34 .. 😂😂..
US military lol 🤣😂
Yeah, doesn't "military grade" just mean, "Made by the lowest bidder?" How did that ever become a synonym for "quality" or "durability"?
I have a Lenovo Ideapad laptop that I bought back in December last year. It hasn't even been a month when I started hearing a popping sound every time I close the lid.
These repair videos are good, there isn't enough good channels for it
I never claimed to be the greatest technician that's ever lived. However I just screwed a few cabinet hinges into my laptop and it's so much better
I'm hereby giving you the title of the greatest technician that's ever lived.
@@SalemTechsperts YAYYY BITCH. I hope my dad comes back now
I watched this. I have worked in a repair shop for 20+ years. Just wanted to say that I know, and understand your pain. You are not alone. I love that you have an outlet to get it off your chest. I can only yell at the walls :)
9:02 checkpoint
Hi, I found your youtube channel about 2 days ago.
First of all, I used to have a medium-sized youtube channel about a year ago before deleting it for privacy reasons / concerns.
I have to say your channel is educational, entertaining, funny, and relatable.
I live in TX, and if I needed a PC repair, I'd go out of my way to ship my repair needs to your shop just to support your business. I believe voices like yours need to be amplified to encourage positive change in the world. Thanks for being you. Hope your business thrives!
Man, thank you so much. Comments like these are genuine highlights of my day after making a video.
As an IT professional, Kia owner, and JB weld user, I feel personally attacked 🤣
Damn, hitting all the checkmarks on this one!
"I don't even want to acknowledge its existence" sometimes truth hurts, sorry HP.
**makes a short video hammering it**
Like my mom after a shower. You walked into that one. I even replied on that video too, "getting hammered and snorting dust" the real problem with tech and devs is normal people don't understand the level of difficulty there is to fixing something, it requires a level of skill that most people don't understand. I'm a dev guy who was once a tech guy with the machines of old. Even ran a bbs back in the day with a 2400 baud on that old Mac plus. So, respect to what you do.
I wouldn't be worried inherently by adhesive holding those hinges on. There are easily available epoxies that have stronger bonding than the metal they are bonded to... If applied right...
So either Asus cheaper out on the already pretty cheap epoxy... Or didn't do it right. Y'all wanna guess which?
I'm a bet both.
Edit: I see The Greatest Technician Who's Ever Lived did it correctly with good epoxy later in the vid. Good stuff
When everyone is pushing "Thin and Light" laptops this is the natural thing to happen. Laptops these days are such a poor value from both a durability aspect and performance aspect because of the market only being focused on the weakest and slowest performing kind of laptop.
4:02 The Answer is.. to make it repairable 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
technically the only way they can make it indestructible is to spot weld it. yeah... Spot weld the damn shit in there.
by spot welding it it will never came out of there ever.
but the problem now is that ... of something goes bad and it requires to replace the hinges. you will need to replace the whole damn case coz the hinges is permanently attached to it.
3:09 this screen needs a trigger warning before it.. I swear when I saw those screws that are melted to fit in plastic, I have to breathe manually and hyperventilate a bit... nightmare fuel...
We need a support group for hinge repair PTSD
It is a shame that they produce such low quality products just to save 0,1% production costs. But the calculate it more that way... "if you sell 1,000,000 computers like this, this saves 100,000 bucks"...
2:08 That ASUS ad that says wanna look at our asus? 😅
Msi is notorious for their creepy hinge design too. Most Taiwanese (and Chinese in some sense) companies are likely try to save every penny on their products.
And the spare parts for MSI are like non existent lol
Not just China or Taiwan, HP has been using their same awful hinges for a loong time now and it’s not just HP.
All these companies take the things from apple they like (soldered on parts, nothing being user replaceable) but don’t take apples sturdiness
Really? My MSI Raider has lasted for nearly five years, and I've dropped it at least four times... twice on asphalt. XD
That said, I'm building my next computer, case and all.
My samsung ultrabook have the same problems
All laptops worldwide have the same problems
Lenovo leptop owner here
(But do keep in mind all these laptops are made by same handful of Tawanese ODMs, no Lenovo or HP or ASUS)
I have bee nhit by 2 awful problems
Hinges broke the case badly, my laptop os held roughly into shape using gorilla glue because the plastic is broken in many pieces
I also replaced the charge port myself with a matching one, because their center pins always break, and its center pin broke as well, so now I have soldered a normal 5,5 * 2,1 barrel jack and modified the cable to use the male jack
I wnt my next laptop to be a Framework both because of build quality and philosophy, but they don't ship to Greece yet.
I'm no expert on the subject and I'm in no way defending these laptop manufacturers for their garbage hinge design.. But I think the reason why they can't have the hinge screws mount directly to the display assembly is because unlike Apple, every other company uses stamped aluminium instead of milled aluminium to cut costs.. I don't know how much more expensive it is to go from stamped to milled but it's probably a noticeable amount just from the whole process of making it.. I remember seeing a video about the recent Lenovo Legion laptops having a decent hinge design despite being also stamped aluminium so there's definitely a workaround on the issue without costing too much, most manufacturers just don't care..
I like seeing these long form vids from you man. keep it up
The windows laptop manufacturers suck (except razer ). I've heard about almost every laptop other than razer and macbooks having this silly stupid problem that should exist in 2024! Especially laptop at that price segment (the asus u showed).
Hinge problems are the bane of my existence. Love these longer videos. This is one of the best videos you've ever done. Keep up the good work.
The hinges on dell laptops, especially all the ones that have 360 degrees of rotation, are ATROCIOUS. Dell isn't exactly known for its build quality but I swear they managed to squeeze under the low bar that is PC laptop hinges.
10:35, The one-piece hinge mount is real!
I got a good laugh because hinges have been shit on laptops for sooo god damn infuriatingly long. It seems like you have to go either Mac or some Linux laptops from smaller manufacturers to avoid hinge issues.
I cannot agree with a fellow tech more than this. Fucking glue being used to hold a critical structure of the laptop together should be an actual crime and it's a shame we're seeing it on Asus, HP, and every company that isn't Apple. It's absolutely ludicrous that we're seeing build quality of cheap chinese crap in an 800 dollar laptop from a company that can, has, and should deliver better. Absolutely ludicrous and I hope this trend stops soon and companies start machining their laptop assemblies again. Shame on every PC manufacturer that does this.
06:05 I think woke up my neighbors from laughing. Saw that gag a mile away but it worked flawlessly.
Do you not see a lot of Macbook hinge failures? They used to be one of the most common hinge failures I used to see before I stopped working on Apple products a couple of years ago. They are easily just as bad as the rest of the industry on this front. Of the major brands, Dell's XPS and Precision lines and Microsoft Surface have been the most consistently good for me about this particular issue. Razer has also generally been very solid barring a couple of older models.
I do at least 20-30 of these a week on all brand except one and guess what brand that is? Apple computers. People can trash talk Apple all they want but they build robust well designed machines in most cases if we exclude the butterfly keyboard, the LCD cables in the late model 13-15” MacBooks and the problem with the SSD shorting to ground on some models. Out of the thousands of laptops I’ve repaired I still have yet to ever see a MacBook hinge fail, they’ll get loose over the years but I’ve never seen them fail completely.
Amen to this brother. Preach!
In my 5 years in the repair business I have seen ONE MacBook, a 2014 or 2015 A1398, with a broken hinge. That poor laptop was beaten up, the actual hinge broke. But guess what? Take a donor display, 10 minutes and it was as good as new. Which is another testimony to the build quality of these machines.
@@PvtAnonymous when an apple product is a more repair friendly option than your product,you know you fucked up
@@PvtAnonymousto be fair most apple users go straight to the apple store
After watching Louis rossmann ... Can't buy apple 😂
Guess I will be purchasing an Apple, which im not a fan. But if i want a decent hinged laptop, i guess it's them or Razor for my musical needs.
Thanks for this vid and all your others. You two are fucking hilarious.
Your long formation videos are wonderful, please continue!
Thank you so much, that’s the plan going forward! I really enjoy these videos much more than shorts. More time to cram in jokes and education with less brain rot
Was just binging your stuff while i downloaded stuff on my new desktop. Thank you greatest technician that's ever lived for reminding me to turn on my power supply after building it.
Bro should i get a acer nitro v i5 13420h rtx 4050 75 tgp or asus rog stix g17 ryzen 7 6800hs rtx 3050 95 tgp i know that acer has better specs but i want build quilaty i don't want to go to service after a month or so please tell me which will last long i am a student i have to use it for 4 years they are at the same price
I want your advice greatest technician that ever lived
08:37 as an accountant, I'll tell ya that we do not get involved in this things. We're too busy being overworked to create pointless reports.
Yeah more MBA types than CPAs.
yeah it's the project manager that tightens the noose on the budget, usually because someone at board level laid down a decree and everything trickled down through 5 layers of management until someone's trying to find out how to reduce materials costs by x% without cutting corners anywhere the customer can see it.
I got a Le-No-Go, I mean Lenovo laptop and the hinge plastic broke withing a year. I didn´t knew about this being an industrie wide problem, but I know a little about how to build things and was shocked when I´ve seen the thin plastic the hinge is attached to. They build something that obviously will break and expect it to not break. Who´s idea was this?
I totally agree with you that the industry should be making those hinge joints more robust. In the meantime, a good work-around when lifting the lid of the laptop is to lift ONLY from the top-center of the screen instead of the top-corner. That way you won't have excessive loading on one particular hinge over the other which may lead to that type of hinge-separation failure.
A better work-around is to loosen the hinges
@@0w3nn I don't think the hinges can be loosened. They're friction hinges designed to hold the weight of the screen at the angle you want without it slipping and falling back down.
@@Kandsmerlin then how come I did it and it has worked wonders for 4 of my laptops
@@0w3nn I guess it depends on the specific manufacturer of your four laptops. Not all laptops are the same, obviously. Different manufacturers use different parts.
@@Kandsmerlin most laptops have hinges that can be loosened. Including those from hp, Lenovo, Acer and Asus.
Apple may have a good case but everything else sucks. They can't design a PCB, circuit, or a display that has a normal aspect ratio 😊
Another long form video lets go!!!
Yep I have a Hp Envy. Its a nice laptop and granted its 9 years old but it cost me $900 new and about 3 years after I bought it the right hinge broke. Oh and my sister bought the same laptop and the same thing happened. I had a IBM ThinkPad back in the day that was a tank.
I Love this channel. This takes the boring out of Computer Repair!
Had an Asus laptop with a broken hinge. I tried using epoxy glue but it broke again within a year. So I drilled holes through the back cover and used M3 bolts with nuts to keep it in place. It's still holding up😂
Funny thing, before I watched this video, I was watching a video on how one person took a Japanese "mini-truck" and turned it into a camper. One of the things they did was glue aluminum panels to a steel frame using 3M's VHB tape.
I'm looking at the hinges here and saying "Wait, if they're just stamping out backplates out of semi-thick aluminum (not milling them), why aren't they using VHB tape for the hinges?"
I love those kei trucks. And I'm sure the answer is $$$$
Using adhesive isn't the issue, as VHB tape and JB Weld (though the latter is much more than an adhesive) demonstrate.
my sister´s lenovo laptop that i use has a broken hinge screw hole
and because she doesn't know about computers and laptops she is gonna blame ME for it, im currently saving money to fix it before she blames me for supposedly breaking it
its gonna be hard before she notices it because i am 12 and im from mexico
wish me luck.
Love this new video format♥️
I have 2024 ASUS Zenbook and it seems they learned from their mistakes. If I can see properly hinge is one huge metal slob. So i quess it works.
I even have that lenovo thinkpad you were beating up at 0:31
One of the greatest to ever live
What thinkpad is it?
@@vinkel906 I don't know the model name because I recieved from my uncle.
Thinkpat T420/T430
8:46 According to Lewis Rossman, the engineer probably just wants to go home early. Although it's understandable that the engineers also want to make their jobs easier, it's not acceptable when paying 800 or over $1,000 for a computer gets you hinges that are no better than the ones on a $400 computer.
2 long form videos in 2 days? A dream come true ❤
4:41 that and windows. People are getting sick of windows and your other options are Mac or Chromebook
100%. I was going to mention this. The more Microsoft tries to profit off the user, the more alienated they’re going to feel. Compare opening Edge for the first time vs opening Safari. Edge bombards you with 6 Windows, Safari just politely asks if you want sync your settings. And never bothers you again.
Unless the laptop is expensive, like their Surface Studio laptops. I haven't gotten any issues yet with my Sirface Laptop Studio 2. But what do you think? @SalemTechsperts?
I had this idea. There are these hinge testing machines that with automatically open and close hinges. If someone were to get one of those and test many new laptops people could be informed one which models have better hinges. Only thing is not sure how someone could make a profit destroying brand new laptops, even if it provides useful information to the general public. If the public was informed on which models.of laptops had bad hinges, they could choose to buy other models instead, and that would force companies to make better hinge designs, because people would know before hand and not buy their product if it doesn't meet standards.
This is actually a fantastic idea, but yeah the cost associated would be the barrier. Also, manufacturer's tend to simply test it using a gently machine placed directly in the middle of the lid. We all know people open on the left or right side (even though they shouldn't). Would definitely be interested in seeing the results.