Exactly: don't just give up, just philosophically realize that it's the system that's screwed up, recognise your own value, and just keep on keeping on..
Good common sense here Lou! May seem simple and logical, but when one ends up 'in the mix' out there, it's lonely, you can get to feeling weak, you lose confidence, you feel hopeless. And a lot of basic errors creep in.
Ive applied for many jobs. Tweeked my CV to match the job desciption. Read up on the job and the company. Been keen and been flexible in the interview. Only to be told i have too much experience, and for the same job type told i dont have the right experience. Having a picture on your social network can work both ways. The first question i now ask at interviews is why they chose my CV. There are many things that decide if you get a job. Some you can and some you cant control.
I like that you asked the question: "Why they chose my CV". It's a smart question to ask because it almost forces the interviewer to admit you have the skills/experience they are looking for. But, as you say, there are many things that decide if you get the job. Thank you for sharing your experience.
1. Errors in application Don't rush on the paperwork/application. 2. Not asking questions in interview 3. Not preparing for interview but researching the company 4. Not customizing your resume and cover letter 5. Clean up social media presence 6. Job searching without a plan 7. Not following up after application/interview 8. Not networking 9. Not appearing confident 10. Giving up too soon 11. Start a side hustle
I appreciate the quick take/summary. I believe I covered all the mistakes older job seekers can make. If you think of any I didn't cover please let me know. Thank you for watching and thank you for taking the time to comment. Have a great Thanksgiving!
Hey Lou-this really hits home for a lot of reasons. The older I get at 51 the more more difficult it seems. I was getting nowhere in my career and knew something had to be done. I networked with one of my old work colleagues and got back in at higher rate/title. Thx for sharing.
Thank you so very much for making this video! I just turned 60 on July 13th and I'm presently still looking for employment. At this point, I'm keeping my options open to P/T and Temp positions where, at one time, I would strictly focus on F/T openings.
Working P/T is a good option while you are looking for a FT gig. At least you are bringing in money and keeping busy. I did this multiple times in my career.
This video should be put in the TH-cam Hall of fame for great content videos! Excellent advice.. I've always had an issue with believing in myself. Confidence, knowing my value... I'm 49 and feel lost, I'm going to rewatch this video a few times. Thank you.😊
I generally leave application letters sit for 24 hours, re-read to make sure tone is correct, and no mistakes. I have the confidence at interview. I research the company. I customise my cv and cover letter to hit the points. I do not do public social media. In the past, I worked the networking (didn't work). I have not given up, I know my work ethic is a benefit to any company. However, I am 63, and that puppy I do have difficulty overcoming. Heck, it was very difficult in my 50s, but now, double that.
Work ethic is not important at all: it is only the "appearance" of work ethic that counts, along with playing the political game, whilst pursuing those side hustles, AND, not feeling guilty about doing all of this whilst on the company's time and dime! I have learnt my lessons: there is nothing like age and experience! It's all juat business in the end, and business is cut-throat for-profit capitalism, nothing more or less.
Good point about networking. Almost every job I have landed throughout my life has been through a friend or acquaintance. Employers look at your personality and want someone they can get along with. You could have all the skills needed for a job but if your not likable you probably wont get the job. Study the company and it's mission statement before you go to an interview.
Hi I am 53 I am still looking for a good local job. Got a few interviews but did not get hired. It is hard after I lost my good job years ago. I was 44 no job back then. Only a few temp work. Then I was a long term caretaker to my late dad. I have one phone interview tomorrow at a retail store. I already know I won’t get hired because there will be more younger and more qualified candidates. Very sad. I got denied for financial aid. I have a home and not disabled I got my Calfresh that helps in my groceries. You are right the older we get the harder to get a local job. I don’t like to commute too far 😟
Hi Amy! I hope you landed that retail job. That may be a short term solution but it's important to have a steady source of income. Once you've done that I suggest looking at ways you can work out of your home. This may mean learning new skills in your spare time, or leveraging your current skills. Either way, the Internet makes it much easier for people to earn a living or earn a side income from the comfort of their home. Good luck!
Sage advice... I love it! I'm retird from a successful career in sales. I'm not looking, but if I were looking for a job, I'd do exactly what you suggested. It would be kind of fun; racking but fun! Networking is exceedingly important. You are who you hang out with. Thanks for the reminder.
Underestimating your value aka selling yourself short. As an entrepreneur of 40+ years I constantly have to sell myself every day. If I don’t communicate how good of a job I’ll do for others it won’t come across as to why they should hire me instead of a competitor. And you may think that just because I’m the boss I don’t have to be concerned about that. And you’d be wrong. If I don’t constantly sell myself and my company, then neither myself or my employees make a living. So who do I work for and who is my boss? My customers, that’s who.
Im almost 50 and getting ready to quit my job if I dont find one first. 24 years at one job and now have a toxic cancerous manager. The company has changed from day to night. I have a Bs degree in law, but want to get into IT or cyber. I never used my degree because I fell into a job. My job is physical operating locomotives ground work and heavy equipment. It pays well but Im not a robot and really just cant stand this manager. Complete narcissist. Other coworkers putting in resumes at different places. So I was going to quit and drive a school bus and go back to get some education. I have a strong passion to start a business and going to do this as well. Its just at my current job is getting very very toxic. Overworked and I fear If I stay 6 more years my physical health will be very bad ( knees, back hands, feet) I have a coworker who is retiring at 62 and he said get out now. Its going to get really bad here. Okay I rambled enough however any advice would be welcomed.
You didn't ramble, you gave a good summary of the situation you find yourself in. You are obviously a smart guy, and motivated. Start a side hustle. As it grows your whole perspective will change and your options increase. Check out Side Hustle Rules, my relatively new TH-cam channel where I extol the virtues of side hustles. Also, consider joining the Side Hustle Rules Patreon page. Good luck and get going!
I left my job when i was 32 to start my own business. Im now 59 and never looked back. No doubt, the best decision of my life. There is no future working for someone else.
I made the mistake of staying in a job for 16 years. And it cost me. If you’re a young person who’s in a job for more than three years without significant career development, get out. Find another role that provides it. This is why I advocate for keeping expenses as low as possible, so you aren’t shackled to a higher paycheck (as staying in the same job for more than 5 years ultimately costs far more than if you strategically move from role to role).
I never have a problem with getting a job even though I am 54, I am a 30 years experienced Master Barber however I hold a Bachelor Degree and almost an MBA "few courses left". I use my network for a lot of my sales jobs when I want a break from barbering. I can teach barbering as well, been doing it for 15 years.
Being older , correct research the company and the job itself. Have questions ready. I work to turn the conversation from an interview to a consultant type discussion. Suddenly I’ve become a more trusted potential resource in the hiring managers minds. Most important, highlight transferable skills!!
You are right on point with everything you mention, especially highlight transferrable skills. Although, I would also emphasize any new skills that have been acquired.
I was once told that asking questions during an interview was intrusive and unprofessional. It also implies that you didn't research the company enough.
Thank you I have a phone interview and then a FaceTime interview tomorrow. I bought my last interview because I was too anxious and not confident but I don’t know how to net work because I’ve been living in isolation for three years and really don’t know anyone at all and it’s very hard for me to net work, and I don’t even have a clue where to start
Networking skills take time to develop. One exercise I recommend is to go to an indoor mall (there are still a few of those around) or park and say "hi" to people as you walk by them. Also, look for a reason to engage in a conversation with them. For example, if you see someone walking a dog you could say, "what a beautiful dog" and then ask them about their dog. (People love talking about their pets.)The point of this exercise is to get comfortable finding reasons to speak to people and introduce yourself. Do this enough and it'll make networking at a business function easier. Good luck!
Hi Barbara! I'm glad you enjoyed my video and found it helpful. Sometimes small adjustments will make a big difference in our prospects. Most importantly, never give up and never stop trying. Thanks for watching!
The little things add up. Do them and we improve our chance of getting hired. Of course there is no guarantee. It’s just smart to avoid shooting ourselves in the foot by making mistakes that can be avoided.
I hope it works out for you. If you keep your skills sharp and up-to-date it will work out for you. If you haven't done that, now's the time to do it. You'll find it'll work miracles for you.
Hi Christine! I’m not familiar with the Dept of Rehab so I don’t know what their protocol is regarding warnings or termination. But I would think those steps would be covered in their employee handbook. If they didn’t comply with their handbook I suggest bringing that up to your manager or their manager. I would also follow up that failure in writing.
It's unfortunate that people refuse to network, but as you point out they refuse to do it. Some say networking is hard so they don't do it or even attempt to do it. But, everything is hard before it gets easy.
Stating that you have a long experience can become a liability. In particular if you haven't reached that pivot point in your career when you are telling others what to do, instead of being told what to do. "Why should we hire this guy that has been doing that same thing for years and years without reaching a more senior position by now?"
After the interview ask the hiring manager when you can follow up. It'll usually be longer than three days. Interviewing is one of the issues we plan to discuss at Over50tv's Power of 50 Career Summit scheduled for September 28th. Please watch this channel for details.
Not my experience. Back in 80's or 90's I filled out a paper application at a company in my line of work. I called about a week and a half later to touch base with them. That got me an interview, and at the interview, I was offered the position. I turned down the offer as they had failed in their answers to my questions. LOL
Yeah, my mistake is being old. Had three interviewers tell me. Sure, it’s illegal, but unless they admit it or you have it recorded, nothing can be done.
Side hustling is a good option. Don't discount networking. If you are good at networking (friendly and enjoy talking to people), and you network consistently I GUARANTEE it will pay great dividends, no matter what age you are.
Thanks for your advice, I make sure all my spelling And grammar are correct, next how would companies investigate your social media, per say Facebook, when your settings are read by friends only?. I have a crushed back injury and was fired for the liability issue recently. I've been working with the vocational rehab program in my state, their effort is a snails pace. My wife and I bought a house we have mortgage, how do you network when you have no one to network with affiliated with any company?
I don't know that companies can investigate your social media pages if your membership settings are for friends only, but I wouldn't take the chance that they can. Regarding, networking my suggestion is to join online groups that share your interests or passions. This Saturday I'm starting a live Q & A on the Over50tv Plus Patreon page where I'll spend one-hour answering as many viewer questions as possible. You can join for a pittance. www.patreon.com/over50tvplus
Hi Carolishable! I’m sorry you are having a difficult time finding a job. Even though many ‘experts’ say there are almost two jobs for every person looking for a job I know finding one isn’t easy for everyone. Without knowing anything about your skills and experience, in general I suggest deciding which job is right for you and then determining what skills are necessary to land that position. The key is to do what ever you can do to acquire those skills. Be focused, determined, and unstoppable. I hope these suggestions help you.
Apply to the Federal government, state, or city as they are allowed to discriminate against age, or disability. Check the websites. I was hired by the state at age 60. I have since retired from that job. It took a year to get an interview. Hang in there.
@eileenlally5255 that's why the government enacted laws that don't discriminate against all types of human beings, did you know that the public tips better eith attractive women than sn overweight overweight person, used to work in resturant, yes even your so called decent public discriminated, shooters waitresses make more money than waffle house waitresses,!
It all boils down to just that one person that is doing the interviewing. If that interviewer looks at older people with preconceived notions, than that's it. It's a done deal. This needs to end now. The way to end ageism in the work place is to do what Affirmative Action did for African Americans - to prove the number of older people that are working for each company. This needs to happen now! When the world starts seeing the statistics with their own eyes, they'll see just how ageist we all are. We need to start proving ageism with cold hard facts, so that they have no choice but to hire us if we are qualified.
@tmb9126, Yours is a very, very interesting idea, making companies prove the number of older people working for each company. Not sure that could ever happen but fresh ideas like yours to eliminate ageism are needed.
In my area of the country the main employer just doesn't hire qualified older workers for key or professional positions. In fact they don't hire older workers at all and usually will hire a younger person from a foreign country rather than hire an older worker and it shows in their work performance. The young workers make all sorts of mistakes but they are still given preference & grace while the older workers are go en the boot. That is why I don't for work for or buy the main employers products. Its just part of equal treatment on my part. I have a great employer instead that hires workers of all ages. You just have to look until you find an employer like mine.
Age discrimination is rife.It may be illegal.But its prolific unfortunately.Karma.One day those who discriminate will find themselves in the same boat.!.
There is no future working for someone else. Start your own business or be self-employed. Be your own boss. Just get out of your comfort zone and take the leap of faith. Earn your own money and dont earn money for others.
Having a positive attitude isn't for them, it's for us. I learned a long time ago that having a positive attitude is how to overcome rejection. In this case, I say let them discriminate. It's their loss if they don't hire a skilled, experienced older worker who shows up every day. Attitude is everything. It'll keep you going Ain't nothing impossible. First attitude, then success.
I dont believe in hiring workers over 60. Why you're going to retire at 62, 65 or 67. Dont want to waste my time. Ive seen it over and over again. They lie on thier application about thier skills, lie in the interview about what they can do. Get them on the job, and you find out fast they lied because they had to to get the interview. Then they last just long enough to make it to 62 65 or 67. Thats why older workers don't get hired. Most of the older workers Ive seen, are slower, harder to train, take sick time more, and just aren't as productive, which is why retirement age is 65!!!
When I was in my twenties I got sick about 4 times a year. Now I get sick about every 3 years. I don't have to worry about children. I have none. I get to work on time and work a full day. I don't spend half the day gossiping with colleagues. I won't have an affair with the boss. I have taught younger people about technology. I could run your social media dept., work in marketing or sales. But you won't hire me. - An older worker
Ok I will. I left being a legal assistant to pursue a career in massage therapy. I have my own business and have for 14 years. Massage is hard on my body and the hours are too random. I'm ready to reboot my legal assistant/paralegal skills. I did it for 20 years. I'm starting to believe going through recruiters may be best for me. I meet with 2 next week. I am thinking that doing some temp assignments, I can prove that I still have ridiculous skills. I am going to grab your tips and put them in my reference memo because they are rock solid. When I started applying it honestly didn't occur to me that employers might see age as an impediment. I have 20 years experience but I think on cover letters I will just say over 15 years experience 😂❤
Exactly: don't just give up, just philosophically realize that it's the system that's screwed up, recognise your own value, and just keep on keeping on..
Truer words were never spoken. I wish more folks would recognize their value.
Good common sense here Lou! May seem simple and logical, but when one ends up 'in the mix' out there, it's lonely, you can get to feeling weak, you lose confidence, you feel hopeless. And a lot of basic errors creep in.
I agree. Thank you Gerard.
Ive applied for many jobs.
Tweeked my CV to match the job desciption.
Read up on the job and the company.
Been keen and been flexible in the interview.
Only to be told i have too much experience, and for the same job type told i dont have the right experience.
Having a picture on your social network can work both ways.
The first question i now ask at interviews is why they chose my CV.
There are many things that decide if you get a job. Some you can and some you cant control.
I like that you asked the question: "Why they chose my CV". It's a smart question to ask because it almost forces the interviewer to admit you have the skills/experience they are looking for. But, as you say, there are many things that decide if you get the job. Thank you for sharing your experience.
1. Errors in application
Don't rush on the paperwork/application.
2. Not asking questions in interview
3. Not preparing for interview but researching the company
4. Not customizing your resume and cover letter
5. Clean up social media presence
6. Job searching without a plan
7. Not following up after application/interview
8. Not networking
9. Not appearing confident
10. Giving up too soon
11. Start a side hustle
I appreciate the quick take/summary. I believe I covered all the mistakes older job seekers can make. If you think of any I didn't cover please let me know. Thank you for watching and thank you for taking the time to comment. Have a great Thanksgiving!
It's not what you know. It's who you know
Very true. That is why networking is so valuable. Unfortunately, not enough people do it.
Hey Lou-this really hits home for a lot of reasons. The older I get at 51 the more more difficult it seems. I was getting nowhere in my career and knew something had to be done. I networked with one of my old work colleagues and got back in at higher rate/title. Thx for sharing.
I am glad to hear how networking helped you. I hope more people realize it’s value.
Thank you for the encouragement! I was close to giving up.
God Bless you 😘
Giving up is easy but you’ll never move forward if you do. Please, don’t ever give up.
Thank you so very much for making this video! I just turned 60 on July 13th and I'm presently still looking for employment. At this point, I'm keeping my options open to P/T and Temp positions where, at one time, I would strictly focus on F/T openings.
Working P/T is a good option while you are looking for a FT gig. At least you are bringing in money and keeping busy. I did this multiple times in my career.
This video should be put in the TH-cam Hall of fame for great content videos! Excellent advice.. I've always had an issue with believing in myself. Confidence, knowing my value... I'm 49 and feel lost, I'm going to rewatch this video a few times. Thank you.😊
Thank you for the very kind words. I'm glad you found my video helpful.
I generally leave application letters sit for 24 hours, re-read to make sure tone is correct, and no mistakes.
I have the confidence at interview.
I research the company.
I customise my cv and cover letter to hit the points.
I do not do public social media.
In the past, I worked the networking (didn't work).
I have not given up, I know my work ethic is a benefit to any company.
However, I am 63, and that puppy I do have difficulty overcoming. Heck, it was very difficult in my 50s, but now, double that.
Looks to me like you are doing everything right. I'm glad you aren't giving up. Your work ethic, as you say, is a benefit to any company.
Work ethic is not important at all: it is only the "appearance" of work ethic that counts, along with playing the political game, whilst pursuing those side hustles, AND, not feeling guilty about doing all of this whilst on the company's time and dime! I have learnt my lessons: there is nothing like age and experience! It's all juat business in the end, and business is cut-throat for-profit capitalism, nothing more or less.
Good point about networking. Almost every job I have landed throughout my life has been through a friend or acquaintance. Employers look at your personality and want someone they can get along with. You could have all the skills needed for a job but if your not likable you probably wont get the job. Study the company and it's mission statement before you go to an interview.
The importance of networking to find and keep a job can't be overstated. And, I agree it's a good idea to study the company! Thank you!
Hi I am 53 I am still looking for a good local job. Got a few interviews but did not get hired. It is hard after I lost my good job years ago. I was 44 no job back then. Only a few temp work. Then I was a long term caretaker to my late dad. I have one phone interview tomorrow at a retail store. I already know I won’t get hired because there will be more younger and more qualified candidates. Very sad. I got denied for financial aid. I have a home and not disabled I got my Calfresh that helps in my groceries. You are right the older we get the harder to get a local job. I don’t like to commute too far 😟
Hi Amy! I hope you landed that retail job. That may be a short term solution but it's important to have a steady source of income. Once you've done that I suggest looking at ways you can work out of your home. This may mean learning new skills in your spare time, or leveraging your current skills. Either way, the Internet makes it much easier for people to earn a living or earn a side income from the comfort of their home. Good luck!
you need Internet service and desk computer for a remote job which the poor can't afford
Sage advice... I love it!
I'm retird from a successful career in sales. I'm not looking, but if I were looking for a job, I'd do exactly what you suggested.
It would be kind of fun; racking but fun!
Networking is exceedingly important. You are who you hang out with.
Thanks for the reminder.
I think I've always been in sales. I love it. Thank you for the comment.
Sound advice Thank you! Definitely a valuable encouraging and empowering video!
I'm glad you enjoyed my video. Thank you for watching.
Underestimating your value aka selling yourself short. As an entrepreneur of 40+ years I constantly have to sell myself every day. If I don’t communicate how good of a job I’ll do for others it won’t come across as to why they should hire me instead of a competitor. And you may think that just because I’m the boss I don’t have to be concerned about that. And you’d be wrong. If I don’t constantly sell myself and my company, then neither myself or my employees make a living. So who do I work for and who is my boss? My customers, that’s who.
I agree. The customer is the ultimate boss. I also think it’s important that every employee buy-in to this fact.
Im almost 50 and getting ready to quit my job if I dont find one first. 24 years at one job and now have a toxic cancerous manager. The company has changed from day to night. I have a Bs degree in law, but want to get into IT or cyber. I never used my degree because I fell into a job. My job is physical operating locomotives ground work and heavy equipment. It pays well but Im not a robot and really just cant stand this manager. Complete narcissist. Other coworkers putting in resumes at different places. So I was going to quit and drive a school bus and go back to get some education. I have a strong passion to start a business and going to do this as well. Its just at my current job is getting very very toxic. Overworked and I fear If I stay 6 more years my physical health will be very bad ( knees, back hands, feet) I have a coworker who is retiring at 62 and he said get out now. Its going to get really bad here. Okay I rambled enough however any advice would be welcomed.
You didn't ramble, you gave a good summary of the situation you find yourself in. You are obviously a smart guy, and motivated. Start a side hustle. As it grows your whole perspective will change and your options increase. Check out Side Hustle Rules, my relatively new TH-cam channel where I extol the virtues of side hustles. Also, consider joining the Side Hustle Rules Patreon page. Good luck and get going!
Hey pal, I will be praying for you ,the good Lord will be watching for you when you least expect it!😮
I left my job when i was 32 to start my own business. Im now 59 and never looked back. No doubt, the best decision of my life. There is no future working for someone else.
I made the mistake of staying in a job for 16 years. And it cost me.
If you’re a young person who’s in a job for more than three years without significant career development, get out. Find another role that provides it. This is why I advocate for keeping expenses as low as possible, so you aren’t shackled to a higher paycheck (as staying in the same job for more than 5 years ultimately costs far more than if you strategically move from role to role).
I never have a problem with getting a job even though I am 54, I am a 30 years experienced Master Barber however I hold a Bachelor Degree and almost an MBA "few courses left". I use my network for a lot of my sales jobs when I want a break from barbering. I can teach barbering as well, been doing it for 15 years.
Excellent! You've got a good, marketable skill and a willingness to learn. That is a great combination. Thank you for commenting.
Good tips! Thanks!
Thank you! And, thank you for watching.
Being older , correct research the company and the job itself. Have questions ready. I work to turn the conversation from an interview to a consultant type discussion. Suddenly I’ve become a more trusted potential resource in the hiring managers minds. Most important, highlight transferable skills!!
You are right on point with everything you mention, especially highlight transferrable skills. Although, I would also emphasize any new skills that have been acquired.
I was once told that asking questions during an interview was intrusive and unprofessional. It also implies that you didn't research the company enough.
Thank you I have a phone interview and then a FaceTime interview tomorrow. I bought my last interview because I was too anxious and not confident but I don’t know how to net work because I’ve been living in isolation for three years and really don’t know anyone at all and it’s very hard for me to net work, and I don’t even have a clue where to start
Networking skills take time to develop. One exercise I recommend is to go to an indoor mall (there are still a few of those around) or park and say "hi" to people as you walk by them. Also, look for a reason to engage in a conversation with them. For example, if you see someone walking a dog you could say, "what a beautiful dog" and then ask them about their dog. (People love talking about their pets.)The point of this exercise is to get comfortable finding reasons to speak to people and introduce yourself. Do this enough and it'll make networking at a business function easier. Good luck!
Thank you so much for your very positive video. I needed to watch it and it has given me a new insight on finding suitable employment.
Hi Barbara! I'm glad you enjoyed my video and found it helpful. Sometimes small adjustments will make a big difference in our prospects. Most importantly, never give up and never stop trying. Thanks for watching!
Lou, How do these things matter if what you said about HR departments and older people is true???
The little things add up. Do them and we improve our chance of getting hired. Of course there is no guarantee. It’s just smart to avoid shooting ourselves in the foot by making mistakes that can be avoided.
All said with true feeling! I totally take the info as the absolute real deal. And there is more imo, but thanks for this vid
Thank you for the kind words. And, thanks for watching!
I'm just starting to change jobs now. It is going to be interesting to see how this goes.
I hope it works out for you. If you keep your skills sharp and up-to-date it will work out for you. If you haven't done that, now's the time to do it. You'll find it'll work miracles for you.
I was never told by the Dept of Rehab for disabled people and older workers about making job mistakes.
Hi Christine! I’m not familiar with the Dept of Rehab so I don’t know what their protocol is regarding warnings or termination. But I would think those steps would be covered in their employee handbook. If they didn’t comply with their handbook I suggest bringing that up to your manager or their manager. I would also follow up that failure in writing.
Networking does work. Unfortunately a lot of people refuse to network. It becomes very difficult if your circle doesn’t network but you want to.
It's unfortunate that people refuse to network, but as you point out they refuse to do it. Some say networking is hard so they don't do it or even attempt to do it. But, everything is hard before it gets easy.
Stating that you have a long experience can become a liability. In particular if you haven't reached that pivot point in your career when you are telling others what to do, instead of being told what to do. "Why should we hire this guy that has been doing that same thing for years and years without reaching a more senior position by now?"
That is a very good point and it makes a lot of sense. Thanks!
Best advice, thank you Lou!
I'm glad my video was helpful. Thank you for watching!
Thank you. I know all the mistake, but just unable to make up my mind to change myself. May be I need to change my mentality in the first place.
Changing your mindset is critical. Believe in your value!
I went into the interview, and said "are you going to give me this f**king job or not?". He said no. Clear case of age discrimination.
Obviously! LOL.
What do you think about doing a show on suggestions for people who are 65 and older? Or would they be about the same?
Producing some shows that are specific to 65 plus is a good idea. Thank you for the suggestion.
Do NOT call back after 3 days after an interview. Your application will go straight in the can.
After the interview ask the hiring manager when you can follow up. It'll usually be longer than three days. Interviewing is one of the issues we plan to discuss at Over50tv's Power of 50 Career Summit scheduled for September 28th. Please watch this channel for details.
Not been my experience at all
Not my experience. Back in 80's or 90's I filled out a paper application at a company in my line of work. I called about a week and a half later to touch base with them. That got me an interview, and at the interview, I was offered the position. I turned down the offer as they had failed in their answers to my questions. LOL
what if manager says to call back after 3 days?
Thank you for the tips.
I'm glad you found my video helpful. Thank you for watching! P.s. If you are in Viet Nam I hope it's not as warm as was last week here in Cleveland.
@@Over50tv After 9 p.m., my weather app says it feels like 97F
Thanks for your advice. I called immediately.
Yeah, my mistake is being old. Had three interviewers tell me. Sure, it’s illegal, but unless they admit it or you have it recorded, nothing can be done.
You really made a lot of sense, tanx for the highlights, u r a star😂😅😢
Yeah, they'll never admit it.
Thanks for watching.
Good advice. Side hustle is good initiative. Net working won't work either when you are over 60
Side hustling is a good option. Don't discount networking. If you are good at networking (friendly and enjoy talking to people), and you network consistently I GUARANTEE it will pay great dividends, no matter what age you are.
Correct my Dad over 70 got a job by networking.
Thanks for your advice, I make sure all my spelling And grammar are correct, next how would companies investigate your social media, per say Facebook, when your settings are read by friends only?.
I have a crushed back injury and was fired for the liability issue recently.
I've been working with the vocational rehab program in my state, their effort is a snails pace.
My wife and I bought a house we have mortgage, how do you network when you have no one to network with affiliated with any company?
I don't know that companies can investigate your social media pages if your membership settings are for friends only, but I wouldn't take the chance that they can. Regarding, networking my suggestion is to join online groups that share your interests or passions. This Saturday I'm starting a live Q & A on the Over50tv Plus Patreon page where I'll spend one-hour answering as many viewer questions as possible. You can join for a pittance. www.patreon.com/over50tvplus
Tell the hiring manager you are highly coachable and self educating
Yes! Good tips!
1) Leave OFF Tech School Graduation Dates. Just list your specialty
2) Leave OFF anything over 15yrs if you've only been at locations 5-10 years.
54 years old and can’t find a job, I’m worried.
Hi Carolishable! I’m sorry you are having a difficult time finding a job. Even though many ‘experts’ say there are almost two jobs for every person looking for a job I know finding one isn’t easy for everyone. Without knowing anything about your skills and experience, in general I suggest deciding which job is right for you and then determining what skills are necessary to land that position. The key is to do what ever you can do to acquire those skills. Be focused, determined, and unstoppable. I hope these suggestions help you.
You will find something zthe good Lord works mirscles!
Apply to the Federal government, state, or city as they are allowed to discriminate against age, or disability. Check the websites. I was hired by the state at age 60. I have since retired from that job. It took a year to get an interview. Hang in there.
I meant not allowed to discriminate.
@eileenlally5255 that's why the government enacted laws that don't discriminate against all types of human beings, did you know that the public tips better eith attractive women than sn overweight overweight person, used to work in resturant, yes even your so called decent public discriminated, shooters waitresses make more money than waffle house waitresses,!
It all boils down to just that one person that is doing the interviewing. If that interviewer looks at older people with preconceived notions, than that's it. It's a done deal. This needs to end now. The way to end ageism in the work place is to do what Affirmative Action did for African Americans - to prove the number of older people that are working for each company. This needs to happen now! When the world starts seeing the statistics with their own eyes, they'll see just how ageist we all are. We need to start proving ageism with cold hard facts, so that they have no choice but to hire us if we are qualified.
@tmb9126, Yours is a very, very interesting idea, making companies prove the number of older people working for each company. Not sure that could ever happen but fresh ideas like yours to eliminate ageism are needed.
In my area of the country the main employer just doesn't hire qualified older workers for key or professional positions. In fact they don't hire older workers at all and usually will hire a younger person from a foreign country rather than hire an older worker and it shows in their work performance. The young workers make all sorts of mistakes but they are still given preference & grace while the older workers are go en the boot. That is why I don't for work for or buy the main employers products. Its just part of equal treatment on my part. I have a great employer instead that hires workers of all ages. You just have to look until you find an employer like mine.
The "main employer" is short-sighted about not concerned for their reputation in the local market. That is foolish.
Age discrimination is rife.It may be illegal.But its prolific unfortunately.Karma.One day those who discriminate will find themselves in the same boat.!.
Sadly most people will encounter age discrimination at some point in their life. Those who think they won't are fooling themselves.
Does it seem like companies would rather hire felons than anyone else? I would like to see something on that
Under- 45seems to me more of a deciding factor then anything else.
Yes i was thinking this too. People with criminal background get mor3 opportunities than regular folks.
There is no future working for someone else. Start your own business or be self-employed. Be your own boss. Just get out of your comfort zone and take the leap of faith. Earn your own money and dont earn money for others.
Given the challenges older workers face in the job market it's especially important for them to consider self-employment
Some
Of the jobs that are available for older people suck
Watch Sunday's video for a good second career option.
Positive attitude or not. If they discriminate all the enthusiast will. Not help
Having a positive attitude isn't for them, it's for us. I learned a long time ago that having a positive attitude is how to overcome rejection. In this case, I say let them discriminate. It's their loss if they don't hire a skilled, experienced older worker who shows up every day. Attitude is everything. It'll keep you going Ain't nothing impossible. First attitude, then success.
YAWN. Yet another video that applies to any job seeker of any age... and has no real relevance to age-related mistakes.
Hmm. Interesting comment.
I dont believe in hiring workers over 60. Why you're going to retire at 62, 65 or 67. Dont want to waste my time. Ive seen it over and over again. They lie on thier application about thier skills, lie in the interview about what they can do. Get them on the job, and you find out fast they lied because they had to to get the interview. Then they last just long enough to make it to 62 65 or 67. Thats why older workers don't get hired. Most of the older workers Ive seen, are slower, harder to train, take sick time more, and just aren't as productive, which is why retirement age is 65!!!
The actions you describe are not the sole purview of older folks. I know many younger people who work at a company until something better comes along.
You suck. And you're breaking the law.
Do you want a worker or a new husband?
When I was in my twenties I got sick about 4 times a year. Now I get sick about every 3 years. I don't have to worry about children. I have none. I get to work on time and work a full day. I don't spend half the day gossiping with colleagues. I won't have an affair with the boss.
I have taught younger people about technology. I could run your social media dept., work in marketing or sales. But you won't hire me. - An older worker
@@americafirst9144 Great points and well said!
Excellent video. Thanks so much.
I'm glad you enjoyed my video. Thank you for watching. You may want to watch a new video, "Over 50? Don't Job Hunt Without These 7 Essential Tips!"
Ok I will. I left being a legal assistant to pursue a career in massage therapy. I have my own business and have for 14 years. Massage is hard on my body and the hours are too random. I'm ready to reboot my legal assistant/paralegal skills. I did it for 20 years. I'm starting to believe going through recruiters may be best for me. I meet with 2 next week. I am thinking that doing some temp assignments, I can prove that I still have ridiculous skills. I am going to grab your tips and put them in my reference memo because they are rock solid. When I started applying it honestly didn't occur to me that employers might see age as an impediment. I have 20 years experience but I think on cover letters I will just say over 15 years experience 😂❤