I was gonna give up on Indeed, but I decided to give it one more try. I submitted my resume for an educator position on Indeed last Monday, got a call back on Tuesday, I interviewed on Thursday, and got hired on the spot.
We have not had "full employment" in the USA since I first started looking for a professional job in 1975. You will know you have full employment when wages consistantly rise over 8 quarters.... hasn't happened in 50 years.
Linkedin is not the middle man. Companies use it to attract talent. They pay high amount of money. You need to understand that 1000s of people apply and very few are shortlisted and only one is offered.
Not all companies are hiring through their website. These tips will not work on most jobs today. Recruiters exist for those jobs. The main tip here is you gotta call someone or someone has to find you, which is where LinkedIn comes in. His last example, he applied on both Linkedin & the company website, but still had to call them. My last 3 jobs I either reached out to a recruiter or someone in the company saw my profile & reached out. I even reached out to 2 people in my previous company before applying, some jobs are contracted to recruiting companies & you gotta figure out which one lol
Not all companies are hiring through their website. These tips will not work on most jobs today. Recruiters exist for those jobs. The main tip here is you gotta call someone or someone has to find you, which is where LinkedIn comes in. His last example, he applied on both Linkedin & the company website, but still had to call them. My last 3 jobs I either reached out to a recruiter or someone in the company saw my profile & reached out. I even reached out to 2 people in my previous company before applying, some jobs are contracted to recruiting companies & you gotta figure out which one lol
The problem with applying through the company's career page is having to fill in ALL the info, so doing this for each and every job we apply for is really time-consuming and above all, really annoying. 🙄
True. One reason companies want you to fill in all the info is to see how serious you are about your intentions with them. The upside is that the info you provide goes directly to the company.
And even if you apply through the company's website and fill out all the info you're required to, 9 out of 10 times you still won't be called for an interview. Most likely just an auto-generated email acknowledging they got your application and nothing more. That's it. At least I've had more interviews via LinkedIn compared to applying via the company's official website.
@@arineems6059 with an acknowledgement email at least you know the company received your application. Good to see that you have had success with LinkedIn.
I DO find it annoying to fill out all of the info...but I also feel dumb doing it because I feel like in the time I can fill out one job board, i can find the same job on other sites where you can quick apply. The truth is, what he is saying might be true, but applying directly to the company doesn't change your competition pool. If 1,000 people apply for the job, you are competing against them regardless of which site you apply on. I apply to an average 30 jobs a week per site. And do maybe 4 interviews a week. MOST of the time that works for me for finding a job or contract. But I admit, right now I am having a problem cause I am trying to get to the next level of pay, and so far, it isn't working out. Soon, I'm gonna have to give in and start applying to jobs at my previous salary. Which I don't really want to do.
Whenever possible, always look for a direct contact with the employer. Do not give your personal details to third parties, like scammy job agencies, etc. Such agencies sometimes even post completely fake job ads, just so they can gather the personal details of people, who are seeking for a job.
I have to ask, how does one look for a direct contact with the employer? Phone number? Email towards the employer and not the company? Pretty much, how?
@@mauriciofreitas3384 I mean, when you're on a job search website - they usually do have filters, when searching and you can request results only directly from employing organizations (i.e. exclude agencies).
@@mauriciofreitas3384 one strategy is to talk with the receptionist as they are often an excellent resource. I like to call the main company telephone number and say "I wonder if you could help me. I am preparing my application for the position of _____ in your company. I was wondering if you could tell me who I should address my cover letter to, so that I can personalize it. I promise not to contact them directly as I know they are busy." This almost always works. You will find out if the position is still accepting applications, and the name of the hiring manager, who you can then research on LinkedIn.
Some wise man to fullfill our direct ways. Thank you. I have got a job 3 days after this video... No more wasting time in those social medias. Only updating stats
Create an expanded version of your Resume just for yourself. Under each position that you have held, list bullets detailing the activities you performed and the goals you achieved. When you look an an ad for a position, note the skills/abilities that are listed first, and extract from your expanded Resume the 1 or 2 items that match the requirements of the position you are applying for. In your cover letter make sure you point out the most significant areas of your expertise that directly match the requirements of the position being applied for. Good luck in your search.
Very useful. I have submitted applications only to hear that the job was filled or no longer open. In addition, if there are any edits to the job posting, it resets the job posting. Let's say there is a Business Analyst job posted. 200 applications come in. The next week, the employer changes the title to Business Analyst II, all 200 applications are tossed out. I also am seeing among my experienced friends, they are not considered at all for jobs because they have too much experience. I have 20+ yrs of experience and time and again I am hearing "this is a junior role" even thought the listing says mid-level. But don't call it ageism! I liked the old days of pounding the pavement, walking around the city, handing out resumes. At least then you could look someone in the eye and get a feel for your chances. This is just a black, faceless box.
This is a better option, but it doesn't usually work either. You just go into a database and never hear anything back. At least, that has been my experience. Calling is good, but only if it's a small company. The best way to get a job is having a connection, and that doesn't even always work.
@@kissscareercoaching Its also slimy because half the time you see people who are not qualified getting a job just because they know someone over a candidate whose more suited. Nepotism is awful in the job market.
This is exactly what I do. I get more interviews like this. I’d like to also add the only con is that some companies despite having a career page some companies directly hire from their recruiters who most likely use LinkedIn to get workers
That is superb info Bart. I have experienced this multiple times. This is a whole lot of steps to follow, filling lengthy forms and answering the questions, but then that is a necessary filter that companies apply to verify how serious a candidate is about joining them rather than blindly hitting the Easy Apply button.
It’s much worse than you realize. The government tracks all this activity via HR reports. Depending on the size of the company, they are likely posting jobs due to government oversight which means they already have a candidate picked out. Which mean they don’t need you. Just need to show hiring activity and effort to the government. Want the job, better know someone and network in.
@@fizmath935 could be true. I do not know if a LinkedIn in posting counts to the government. I know paid postings to other media outlets does count. So this is how the government tracks to make sure companies are “following the rules”
Firms also go through interview processes sometimes to keep a candidate pool at all times. This is especially true in professional services where I work and we’re essentially brains for hire in IT.
Thank you for confirming what was so obvious one year with no response from anybody on LinkedIn and indeed changing my résumé three different times three professional résumé writers, and still nothing. I’m Uber driving it pays the bills but I’m a condo association manager, and I have other credentials like project management and nothing.
sound advice. It take much longer to apply on their website and you run the risk that they company aren't as on top of things as they should be, i.e. old adverts on site. The best thing to do is find a contact name and call the company to enquire. You learn things the hard way but the right way. Good video
Indeed and LinkedIn is the last place I go now to apply. I’ll only apply on the website and copy the key words on the job description to have AI create a custom resume and cover letter for that particular position. Make sure you hit all the bullet points on the job description. Finally ask and network. I have recruiters sending me positions that just come out so I can early. Get to know the recruiters using LinkedIn. I have an interview next week with a recruiter that reached out to me from a job. Only target recruiters on LinkedIn. I never apply for “easy apply” button. The best way I found is target current employees and ask if they are really hiring. A reference is also a good way to get on the front door. It’s a very rough market. Good luck everyone.
The advice that this man is giving is gold !!! It may be time consuming, it may be labor intensive. Yet if any of us have any expectation of landing a job ( especially a dream job ), I think that it would incumbent upon us to follow his instruction(s). This is no different from how the state employment websites direct applicants when they do postings. So, you know that what he is saying is precise and on point.
A key point in my eyes is quality of applications vs quantity. In my experience putting every job you've ever had on a job site doesn't work nearly as well as staying in the same industry. I have a few resumes saved based on the industry I'm pursuing and use them accordingly. Also It doesn't hurt to apply to both the job site and the company site. I had a job for 2 years that denied my application on the job site but accepted it on the companies website.
@@Daniel_RO-TM Actually I'm from NYC and have had 2 jobs until recently. When one job is in hospitality and the other is in finance they don't go on the same resume.
Job applicants are of two categories: the machine gunners and the snipers. When one is a fresh graduate the person is more likely to adopt the first approach but with experience more people would adopt the second approach. Job markets vary from one country or region to the other. However, the issue that is universally common with businesses is trust.
Im an assault rifle, I have enough experience to know what job to apply to, but I dont care which company as long as they check my criteria of a good company.
@@winzyl9546 Trust is both ways; on the side of the company and on the side of the applicant. Unless the organisation finds someone or at least someone they think they can trust, they won't fill up that position. So, in the end it's not really a matter of the number of applications. I've seen qualified applicants who were ghosted and other less qualified applicants being offered the job. It's alright being an experienced rifleman or machine gunner but of utmost importance is knowing the terrain of operations.
The amount of bravery this took was INSANE. These people all had their lives in danger, but still decided to go through with the recovery for the sake of busting bad scammers. True respect *Adriannotch* on the internet! If the FBI was half as dedicated and ingenious (and honest) as you guys are, the USA would be a much safer country. Amazing work!
Applying on company websites doesn't guarantee an interview, and there are always exceptions to what I said about LI and Indeed. As you probably know, there are many other factors involved. Hope your luck changes.
@@atlasdguad77 I know one of the better g problems is that AI badly misreads my resume. I mention editing 17 times, writing 15 times, and proofreading 13 times. TopResume showed me that things mentioned once in proper names are treated as of greater importance. I don't know how to change that, and no one else seems to, either.
@@scottandrewhutchinsClient Companies do not like you to reveal them on your resume its a major red flag. But great for the algos. I worked for a incredible lists of companies but it was confidential.
This man's honesty and sincere helpfulness is refreshing. I wish more recruiters and coaches were this way. I have a fine job, but am nonetheless interested in the topic.
There have been times where I started to do this and would see a job posted up on LinkedIn or Indeed (plus other job boards) and I would see a job I think i’m perfect for…I apply and hear nothing. So I would just double check the website and look to see if the post is there too and more cases it’s not. As being in my late 40s I hate how hard it is to find work. In the past you submit your resume and you get a human on the phone, or an response…Now you just put your resume out there to crickets and it’s frustrating.
I'm 40 and almost all my resumes got me a call from whoever was hiring... working in manufacturing might be one reason. In the past month sent 2-3 resumes visited 2 employers ignored one and one sent quite a nice job offer 2 weeks ago accepted.
@@togowack wow congrats! It could be the industry too…I been working in Real Estate for 20 years and I hate it…I want to find an industry that’s more stable. Maybe I’ll have better luck looking in other industries that more people overlook.
@@NottyGurlStyleHi, it is no big deal for me to find work at all. I hunted for and got a gravy job. I can't understand why so many people went into fake jobs. Fake jobs suck all around. It looks like the schools have done this- deliberately. I am not happy about having to go back to work but I started 3 businesses and fell too much behind inflation for this year. Vowed I would never work for anyone else again.
I find that many jobs will ask you to fill out your application AND provide your application, but checking the career page before you apply is a great way to save time.
I SALUTE You for all that your doing, helping all the victims of these scambaggs, they so deserved to be humiliated and be exposed to the public, these people have No place on this world, welldone Sir *Adriannotch* we're here to support you, More Power to you and all your friends, watching from Dalry England!!
Thank you for this advice. I’ve been job hunting for 6 months mostly on Indeed and LinkedIn with very few results, but I noticed that listings that link to the a company website to apply, which always annoyed the hell out of me because you have to make a login profile, those are the listings that I remember getting a callback or interview. I’ll curb my annoyance when I’m flung to an outside site. At least I know I have a fighting chance.
These are all good suggestions. That said, applying directly on LinkeIn or Indeed is not a total waste of time, though it's best to get your application in on the first day or two after the job is posted.
Ooh, thank you for pointing this out! One thing that Indeed isn't helpful for is how it may mark skills in the job description, and even preemptively reject applications as a result - I've recently seen one where the job description mentions preferring skills in one program, but mentioned a few other programs that would also be acceptable. One of those other programs, which in general I see recommended significantly less often than the others, was marked as required experience. That commonly used program? Not listed. This other other program? Required. Since I hadn't used this program (to scale, a friend had only ever used it in high school), Indeed didn't let me apply because I didn't have experience with - for emphasis - an acceptable tertiary _alternative_ for a program that they don't _require_, but _prefer_ experience for.
You're welcome! The hiring process is often constrained by algorithms used by indeed or LI. The saying "who you know is more important than what you know" is still true.
Just my observation. In some cases in the UK, for example, it depends on the type of job in relation to if it's a contract or permanent. Permanent jobs would normally be advertised by the company on their website in addition to using agencies. However, contract jobs are normally advertised by the agency.
It's also worth mentioning that LinkedIn and Indeed use AI to pick applicants, rather than humans. It looks for certain key words in your applications. You may be well more qualified than one person for a job, but if you don't have one key word that they do, it will automatically throw out your application. I have had an immensely difficult time finding work, even when "every company was desperate for people" a few years ago, and I have a ton of experience and am also a veteran. This video has great advice. Indeed and LinkedIn can be useful tools to find jobs, but shouldn't be your only source to find work.
This is exactly how I got my first job without needing to have multiple years of experience experience to be excepted. This is truly like a mini shortcut, instead of applying to jobs for a year, it instead takes 3 months or less depending on the job market peak times.
That is true! I had to figure it out the hard way. I use recruiting companies and also look on linkedin apply there and then send a message to the poster or call if possible to follow up, then I also look on the companies website and apply there. For me it has got to the point where I`ll use linkedin more of a reference and applying as mentioned. Good advice!
Gee wizz, l wish l had seen your video 3 years ago. I have applied to +- 600 jobs. Only get a response to less than 5% of my applications. Starting now l will follow your tip. Thanks so much. Ant.
Glassdoor and indeed collect all of the applicant’s information, especially when using a resume, I wonder what they do with all of this personal information??? 🤨 🤨 🤨 This is a good enough reason to go the extra mile and apply directly at a company’s website.
All those websites just collecting data and information, they can use for any purpose. It is part of the "Market strategy" and statistics. It is a psychological gamble.
When an employer searches for you on the internet, your LinkedIn profile shows up on the first search results page, showing the employer that you are 'real'. Some employers say that if you don't show up in a search, you don't exist.
@@kissscareercoachingthat is the stupidest take I ever heard from a teacher. Teachers used to tell you to think for yourself and read multiple sources. Now teachers use tiktok and instagram and wiki as 'truth'. Talk about rotting your brain with social media and making it your only identity. If all people do is use social media 24/7 and are glued to their phone like a teenage or middle aged woman that drinks wine, that is a red flag. I wouldn't want to work for them either because they probably can't distinguish imagination from reality.
I left LinkedIn years ago. I also left Indeed too. Unless you have a cell phone, you cannot search or apply for a job. Sorry, not every has a cell phone. I'm not rich, I'm unemployed. I no longer have money. Looking at homelessness. A lot help these 2 places were.
Thank you for the tip. I have been applying through Indeed, LinkedIn and other jobs sites for a couple of months now and wondered why I was getting no reply. I will follow your suggestion and hopefully this will yield good results. Thanks again
Get a number and call. It's easier than ever to find the number of the manager or higher up you need. Don't sell yourself, just call and enquire about the position. If it's an actual job, they will have someone call you back or even talk with you then and there. When you do apply, they already know you. This is how we did it in the 80s and 90s and it still works. Jobs are about people, not pieces of paper or application forms. Connect with a human and you leapfrog over your competitors. Back then it took serious work to find direct numbers but now they are there on the internet. Make the technology work for you instead of the other way round.
Right on! That's my conclusion. Applying online is really nasty because it provides the illusion what you're doing some thing useful, when in reality, you're just wasting your time.
If you listen to the audio of this video while working on something else, you would swear it's John Malkovich speaking about Jobs on LinkedIn. I subscribed just for the voice.
I also noticed that some companies don't regularly update the jobs page at their website but when you see the company page either in linkedin or indeed, there's a recent posting of a new job.
This is true. When I see something like that, I call the company to confirm. Once when I called, the owner told me there are no job vacancies and he didn't know why there was a job posting on indeed.
Thats great, sir! I have been applying to many a jobs online through the same platform and I get rejections in minutes after applying and that feels disastrous to mem 😢
I agree. If you are not getting interviews, did you customize your resume for each job posting, communicating a value proposition that matches the employer's needs? Did you optimize it to include the right keywords?
@KISSS Career Coaching Perhaps thats where I might have failed over the first few applications. But in the recent applications, I have been updating my resume considering the requirements of the job. One issue I might be having is that most of the experience zi have is from a foreign country, so it might be hard to acquire references and trust, though I am not sure.
Yes, that could be contributing to why you might not be getting called for interviews. If you have any domestic experience, even it it's volunteering or education, organize your resume so that these appear close to the top of your resume.
Thanks I heard this about Linkedin and Indeed. You have confirmed this theory. Trying to get a entry level job should not be this difficult. Also please do one on how to network to get a job as it is stressful applying to hundreds of jobs
If I can find the job both on the company's career page and on LinkedIn or indeed why not apply on both? I've already tailored a cover letter for that job and perhaps answered some specific questions. Why not submit on both?
I agree that Linkedin has to improve the job search, and the following of the applications. Also I agree that many job position are not active in linkedin. You can see the same positions posted again and again.
This advice is so helpful! I feel like recently LinkedIn & indeed are not as effective. Applying directly on the company's website or reaching out to their hr department by calling seems to be better
I've applied to literally a little over 200 in the last six months. 2 things 1 My resume is nearly 97% auto mechanic with numerous employers of the last 12 years. 2 The jobs being posted are staying up for longer than 6 months and about 1 out over every 30 are actually being viewed, according to the notifications I get from Indeed.
I have seen this in other industries too. Employers may be very selective, or in some cases they may post a job opening to test the quality and quantity of applicants, not necessarily wanting to hire at the time.
@@kissscareercoaching I can't remember where I saw this particular video ( i think Asmondgold) But the video was about this topic and some Employers do this in inflate the numbers to present to their uppers or share holders to justify their "growth" or "desire" and when they do their quarterly reports .. it make them look good
Those job websites are complete crap. You will never get a confirmation of a submission, or a call back. The only thing that works is YOUR network. Yes, if you can scrape the sites for the companies websites, do it, for sure.
It’s Pay per click for LinkedIn. Everytime you open a promoted listing, that company has to pay LinkedIn a fee per click until they hire someone and close the listing
I mostly use indeed but its really a hit or miss. Applying directly on website takes time too. Regardless how you apply to jobs they take forever and years to get back to you. I just hate having to wait. The whole job process is annoying I even thought about applying in person but I don't wanna go and embarrass myself cuz everything's online now. Do people still apply to jobs in person
@@kissscareercoaching true but unfortunately I don't have connections. I have LinkedIn too but never seem to get jobs on there either or connect with recruiters
As a multi trader engineer, I know one thing when it's comes to jobs, it's who you know not wat u describe on your CV. Yeah you got your degree but no experience, no experience no chance, period. Just wanted to wish good luck for all people searching for them dream job atm.
Thank YOU!!! I was a victim of these asshole but now I'm a survivor enjoving you helping other victims and really screwing with the heartless pr*ks!! Thank you for all that you do. *Adriannotch WHY doesn't our government/police get involved like ou do????? I reported it but " nothing they could do!" Much respect
@Mike Arima the short answer is 'networking'. A more specific answer depends on several factors, including your experience and the type of job you’re looking for, and is something I help job seekers with in my career coaching services.
@@SadlySorrowful LinkedIn is great for networking, but not so great for applying for jobs because of the competition. In summary, find any of your connections that work for, have worked for, or are connected to anyone that works for any company that you are interested in. Then, reach out to them and ask if they can either introduce you to a manager, or share with you a manager's contact information. Contact those managers and communicate to them the value that you can provide to them and their company.
In short, just apply on their website directly.
That doesn’t work either, it still says processing after 3 months
Good summary
some companies are not publishing their jobs opps on their career page!
True
@@levidestin6783 So what can you do?
I was gonna give up on Indeed, but I decided to give it one more try. I submitted my resume for an educator position on Indeed last Monday, got a call back on Tuesday, I interviewed on Thursday, and got hired on the spot.
Congratulations!
Congratulations! 🎉Being persistent definitely pays off. 😅
Congratulations!
being hired on the spot is a red flag
This is hopeful
Finding a job should not be this hard. I never want to hear about a labor shortage from employers.
I agree, but we have to operate within this crazy reality.
Even when the employment situation has been better for candidates,employers have always moaned
one major employer, just had it's L1 and H1B program expanded. They are not looking for someone whom can walk away.
They are full of Shit.
We have not had "full employment" in the USA since I first started looking for a professional job in 1975. You will know you have full employment when wages consistantly rise over 8 quarters.... hasn't happened in 50 years.
This tip is gold. Why go through a middle man, when you can go right to the source.
Exactly!
Linkedin is not the middle man. Companies use it to attract talent. They pay high amount of money.
You need to understand that 1000s of people apply and very few are shortlisted and only one is offered.
@@abubakrrafique1302 Hi, I'm a potential employee: WE DON'T FUCKING CARE.
Not all companies are hiring through their website. These tips will not work on most jobs today. Recruiters exist for those jobs.
The main tip here is you gotta call someone or someone has to find you, which is where LinkedIn comes in. His last example, he applied on both Linkedin & the company website, but still had to call them. My last 3 jobs I either reached out to a recruiter or someone in the company saw my profile & reached out. I even reached out to 2 people in my previous company before applying, some jobs are contracted to recruiting companies & you gotta figure out which one lol
Not all companies are hiring through their website. These tips will not work on most jobs today. Recruiters exist for those jobs.
The main tip here is you gotta call someone or someone has to find you, which is where LinkedIn comes in. His last example, he applied on both Linkedin & the company website, but still had to call them. My last 3 jobs I either reached out to a recruiter or someone in the company saw my profile & reached out. I even reached out to 2 people in my previous company before applying, some jobs are contracted to recruiting companies & you gotta figure out which one lol
Few are actually hiring. They are dangling the hopes of getting a good job to collect resumes and harvest personal information from their applicants.
Ghost jobs! Shit should be made illegal
I do wonder why I found scammers on LinkedIn as head hunters and then sounds scammy… why did they do this interview and take my resume?
The problem with applying through the company's career page is having to fill in ALL the info, so doing this for each and every job we apply for is really time-consuming and above all, really annoying. 🙄
True. One reason companies want you to fill in all the info is to see how serious you are about your intentions with them. The upside is that the info you provide goes directly to the company.
@@kissscareercoaching True.
And even if you apply through the company's website and fill out all the info you're required to, 9 out of 10 times you still won't be called for an interview. Most likely just an auto-generated email acknowledging they got your application and nothing more. That's it. At least I've had more interviews via LinkedIn compared to applying via the company's official website.
@@arineems6059 with an acknowledgement email at least you know the company received your application. Good to see that you have had success with LinkedIn.
I DO find it annoying to fill out all of the info...but I also feel dumb doing it because I feel like in the time I can fill out one job board, i can find the same job on other sites where you can quick apply. The truth is, what he is saying might be true, but applying directly to the company doesn't change your competition pool. If 1,000 people apply for the job, you are competing against them regardless of which site you apply on. I apply to an average 30 jobs a week per site. And do maybe 4 interviews a week. MOST of the time that works for me for finding a job or contract. But I admit, right now I am having a problem cause I am trying to get to the next level of pay, and so far, it isn't working out. Soon, I'm gonna have to give in and start applying to jobs at my previous salary. Which I don't really want to do.
Whenever possible, always look for a direct contact with the employer. Do not give your personal details to third parties, like scammy job agencies, etc. Such agencies sometimes even post completely fake job ads, just so they can gather the personal details of people, who are seeking for a job.
Definitely agree!
I have to ask, how does one look for a direct contact with the employer? Phone number? Email towards the employer and not the company?
Pretty much, how?
@@mauriciofreitas3384 I mean, when you're on a job search website - they usually do have filters, when searching and you can request results only directly from employing organizations (i.e. exclude agencies).
@@mauriciofreitas3384 one strategy is to talk with the receptionist as they are often an excellent resource. I like to call the main company telephone number and say "I wonder if you could help me. I am preparing my application for the position of _____ in your company. I was wondering if you could tell me who I should address my cover letter to, so that I can personalize it. I promise not to contact them directly as I know they are busy." This almost always works. You will find out if the position is still accepting applications, and the name of the hiring manager, who you can then research on LinkedIn.
Agreed! I cannot stand these 3rd party websites. In my experience going straight to the source, has given me better results in the end.
Some wise man to fullfill our direct ways. Thank you. I have got a job 3 days after this video... No more wasting time in those social medias. Only updating stats
Congratulations!
You're saying everything I knew deep inside, but needed someone to validate out loud. Good job
This is what I'm actually doing when applying for jobs.
Create an expanded version of your Resume just for yourself. Under each position that you have held, list bullets detailing the activities you performed and the goals you achieved. When you look an an ad for a position, note the skills/abilities that are listed first, and extract from your expanded Resume the 1 or 2 items that match the requirements of the position you are applying for. In your cover letter make sure you point out the most significant areas of your expertise that directly match the requirements of the position being applied for. Good luck in your search.
Good points, but I would skip the activities you performed and focus on your accomplishments.
no thanks
I think that's a great strategy!
I was going to do this same thing.
Very useful. I have submitted applications only to hear that the job was filled or no longer open. In addition, if there are any edits to the job posting, it resets the job posting. Let's say there is a Business Analyst job posted. 200 applications come in. The next week, the employer changes the title to Business Analyst II, all 200 applications are tossed out.
I also am seeing among my experienced friends, they are not considered at all for jobs because they have too much experience. I have 20+ yrs of experience and time and again I am hearing "this is a junior role" even thought the listing says mid-level. But don't call it ageism! I liked the old days of pounding the pavement, walking around the city, handing out resumes. At least then you could look someone in the eye and get a feel for your chances. This is just a black, faceless box.
Great points. Sometimes companies hire for "junior roles" to avoid paying high salaries.
I AM HAVING A VERY BAD DAY! 248 RESUMES SENT ON LINKEDIN - ALL 248 - REJECTED!
All of it is gaslighting because they WANT YOUR DATA for money
This is a better option, but it doesn't usually work either. You just go into a database and never hear anything back. At least, that has been my experience. Calling is good, but only if it's a small company. The best way to get a job is having a connection, and that doesn't even always work.
Connections and networking are usually the most effective ways of getting a job.
Indeed and LInked have links to company webites to apply regardless
@@kissscareercoaching Its also slimy because half the time you see people who are not qualified getting a job just because they know someone over a candidate whose more suited. Nepotism is awful in the job market.
Connections and networking get you the job, but opposes the concept of fairness and meritocracy. I do not think this will ever change.
Sounds like we a doomed if things don't change. The downside to the digital age.
This is exactly what I do. I get more interviews like this. I’d like to also add the only con is that some companies despite having a career page some companies directly hire from their recruiters who most likely use LinkedIn to get workers
This is true. Recruiters do search LinkedIn, that's why you should have a well-developed profile.
Makes sense. I've seen postings in LinkedIn which "no longer exists" many times
This video helped confirm what I doing without knowing I was doing it right, now I will deliberately focus on this way. Thanks coach.
Excellent! You're welcome!
That is superb info Bart. I have experienced this multiple times. This is a whole lot of steps to follow, filling lengthy forms and answering the questions, but then that is a necessary filter that companies apply to verify how serious a candidate is about joining them rather than blindly hitting the Easy Apply button.
Thank you! Great comment.
It’s much worse than you realize. The government tracks all this activity via HR reports. Depending on the size of the company, they are likely posting jobs due to government oversight which means they already have a candidate picked out. Which mean they don’t need you. Just need to show hiring activity and effort to the government. Want the job, better know someone and network in.
Very true.
True but I have been told by a guy with an MBA from Univ. of Chicago that if the ad is on Linkedin then they are really looking for somebody.
@@fizmath935 could be true. I do not know if a LinkedIn in posting counts to the government. I know paid postings to other media outlets does count. So this is how the government tracks to make sure companies are “following the rules”
Firms also go through interview processes sometimes to keep a candidate pool at all times. This is especially true in professional services where I work and we’re essentially brains for hire in IT.
@@fizmath935 That MBA should be your first clue. Linkedin is Bull$hit.
This actually a really good idea. Most people will apply through indeed, linked in etc.
It's easy to make these mistakes, but being aware of them can save a lot of time and frustration. Well done!
Very true! Learn from experience.
Hi friend
This is what I call a very useful information. My friend, you probably is saving a lot of time in our lives.
Thank you very much for your content.
You're welcome!
Excellent points. Now i just use LinkedIn and Indeed to find out about jobs instead of applying at those sites
I've been doing this, applying directly, all along.
Thank you for confirming what was so obvious one year with no response from anybody on LinkedIn and indeed changing my résumé three different times three professional résumé writers,
and still nothing. I’m Uber driving it pays the bills but I’m a condo association manager, and I have other credentials like project management and nothing.
When working with a resume writer, always make sure that they customize your resume to the specific job advertisement that you are applying to.
sound advice. It take much longer to apply on their website and you run the risk that they company aren't as on top of things as they should be, i.e. old adverts on site. The best thing to do is find a contact name and call the company to enquire. You learn things the hard way but the right way. Good video
Nothing beats direct communication with someone in the company.
Finally! Some useful job hunting advice rather than some general generic advice! Great video!
Thank you!
Indeed and LinkedIn is the last place I go now to apply. I’ll only apply on the website and copy the key words on the job description to have AI create a custom resume and cover letter for that particular position. Make sure you hit all the bullet points on the job description. Finally ask and network. I have recruiters sending me positions that just come out so I can early. Get to know the recruiters using LinkedIn. I have an interview next week with a recruiter that reached out to me from a job. Only target recruiters on LinkedIn. I never apply for “easy apply” button. The best way I found is target current employees and ask if they are really hiring. A reference is also a good way to get on the front door. It’s a very rough market. Good luck everyone.
Excellent tips, thanks for sharing!
The advice that this man is giving is gold !!! It may be time consuming, it may be labor intensive. Yet if any of us have any expectation of landing a job ( especially a dream job ), I think that it would incumbent upon us to follow his instruction(s). This is no different from how the state employment websites direct applicants when they do postings. So, you know that what he is saying is precise and on point.
Thank you for your positive comment!
A key point in my eyes is quality of applications vs quantity. In my experience putting every job you've ever had on a job site doesn't work nearly as well as staying in the same industry. I have a few resumes saved based on the industry I'm pursuing and use them accordingly. Also It doesn't hurt to apply to both the job site and the company site. I had a job for 2 years that denied my application on the job site but accepted it on the companies website.
few resumes meaning fake ones with jobs you never worked?
@@Daniel_RO-TM Actually I'm from NYC and have had 2 jobs until recently. When one job is in hospitality and the other is in finance they don't go on the same resume.
Good strategy.
Job applicants are of two categories: the machine gunners and the snipers. When one is a fresh graduate the person is more likely to adopt the first approach but with experience more people would adopt the second approach. Job markets vary from one country or region to the other. However, the issue that is universally common with businesses is trust.
Great comment. Put another way, shotgun vs rifle approach.
Im an assault rifle, I have enough experience to know what job to apply to, but I dont care which company as long as they check my criteria of a good company.
@@winzyl9546 Trust is both ways; on the side of the company and on the side of the applicant. Unless the organisation finds someone or at least someone they think they can trust, they won't fill up that position. So, in the end it's not really a matter of the number of applications. I've seen qualified applicants who were ghosted and other less qualified applicants being offered the job. It's alright being an experienced rifleman or machine gunner but of utmost importance is knowing the terrain of operations.
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You are the man! I literally needed to watch that at this moment! Stuck in a rutt! With applications!!! Grrrr
Thanks! I'm glad it helped.
I'm 47 years old, and the number of jobs I've gotten by applying through the company website is still zero.
Applying on company websites doesn't guarantee an interview, and there are always exceptions to what I said about LI and Indeed. As you probably know, there are many other factors involved. Hope your luck changes.
You might be experiencing ageism take off dates such as graduating date anything that might give insight to your age. Just a suggestion.
@@atlasdguad77 I know one of the better g problems is that AI badly misreads my resume. I mention editing 17 times, writing 15 times, and proofreading 13 times. TopResume showed me that things mentioned once in proper names are treated as of greater importance. I don't know how to change that, and no one else seems to, either.
"I freelanced for a bunch of different companies, but I can't tell you which or it throws off your algorithm" seems like a pathetic resume to me.
@@scottandrewhutchinsClient Companies do not like you to reveal them on your resume its a major red flag. But great for the algos. I worked for a incredible lists of companies but it was confidential.
This man's honesty and sincere helpfulness is refreshing. I wish more recruiters and coaches were this way.
I have a fine job, but am nonetheless interested in the topic.
I've never used Indeed nor Linkedin before, but what you just advised is exactly what I was planning to do.
All the best in your job search!
There have been times where I started to do this and would see a job posted up on LinkedIn or Indeed (plus other job boards) and I would see a job I think i’m perfect for…I apply and hear nothing. So I would just double check the website and look to see if the post is there too and more cases it’s not.
As being in my late 40s I hate how hard it is to find work. In the past you submit your resume and you get a human on the phone, or an response…Now you just put your resume out there to crickets and it’s frustrating.
Your experience is unfortunately quite common. If you have one, leveraging your network of contacts is still one of the best strategies.
I'm 40 and almost all my resumes got me a call from whoever was hiring... working in manufacturing might be one reason. In the past month sent 2-3 resumes visited 2 employers ignored one and one sent quite a nice job offer 2 weeks ago accepted.
@@togowack congratulations!
@@togowack wow congrats! It could be the industry too…I been working in Real Estate for 20 years and I hate it…I want to find an industry that’s more stable. Maybe I’ll have better luck looking in other industries that more people overlook.
@@NottyGurlStyleHi, it is no big deal for me to find work at all. I hunted for and got a gravy job. I can't understand why so many people went into fake jobs. Fake jobs suck all around. It looks like the schools have done this- deliberately. I am not happy about having to go back to work but I started 3 businesses and fell too much behind inflation for this year. Vowed I would never work for anyone else again.
That’s really good advice. That way you don’t get scammed!!!!
I find that many jobs will ask you to fill out your application AND provide your application, but checking the career page before you apply is a great way to save time.
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Thank you for this advice. I’ve been job hunting for 6 months mostly on Indeed and LinkedIn with very few results, but I noticed that listings that link to the a company website to apply, which always annoyed the hell out of me because you have to make a login profile, those are the listings that I remember getting a callback or interview.
I’ll curb my annoyance when I’m flung to an outside site. At least I know I have a fighting chance.
Customize your cover letter and resume to each job posting, and be patient. It will pay off!
These are all good suggestions. That said, applying directly on LinkeIn or Indeed is not a total waste of time, though it's best to get your application in on the first day or two after the job is posted.
Good suggestion, and there are always exceptions.
Ooh, thank you for pointing this out! One thing that Indeed isn't helpful for is how it may mark skills in the job description, and even preemptively reject applications as a result - I've recently seen one where the job description mentions preferring skills in one program, but mentioned a few other programs that would also be acceptable. One of those other programs, which in general I see recommended significantly less often than the others, was marked as required experience. That commonly used program? Not listed. This other other program? Required. Since I hadn't used this program (to scale, a friend had only ever used it in high school), Indeed didn't let me apply because I didn't have experience with - for emphasis - an acceptable tertiary _alternative_ for a program that they don't _require_, but _prefer_ experience for.
You're welcome! The hiring process is often constrained by algorithms used by indeed or LI. The saying "who you know is more important than what you know" is still true.
Thank You! This is exactly what I am going through right now with looking for work, and I am always on Indeed.
Good luck in your job search!
@kissscareercoaching Thank You!!
The human touch STILL works! 👏🏾👏🏾
Yes!
Bless your heart. Thanks for the much needed information and advice. I am now subscribed to you.
You're welcome, and thank you!
Good advice, apply directly if possible. LinkedIn useful for recruiters to find you and learn about companies.
That's right. LinkedIn is also useful to learn about the hiring managers in the company.
Just my observation. In some cases in the UK, for example, it depends on the type of job in relation to if it's a contract or permanent. Permanent jobs would normally be advertised by the company on their website in addition to using agencies. However, contract jobs are normally advertised by the agency.
True.
It's also worth mentioning that LinkedIn and Indeed use AI to pick applicants, rather than humans. It looks for certain key words in your applications. You may be well more qualified than one person for a job, but if you don't have one key word that they do, it will automatically throw out your application. I have had an immensely difficult time finding work, even when "every company was desperate for people" a few years ago, and I have a ton of experience and am also a veteran. This video has great advice. Indeed and LinkedIn can be useful tools to find jobs, but shouldn't be your only source to find work.
Key word screening has nothing to do with AI. Employers have been doing it past 20 years.
True. Keywords are very important, but that's not what this video is about.
@@kissscareercoaching just sharing some friendly advice
Sometimes including too much experience on your resume can work against you. To be effective, resumes need to be very focused.
@@TruthSeeker9038 it's good advice too.
This is exactly how I got my first job without needing to have multiple years of experience experience to be excepted. This is truly like a mini shortcut, instead of applying to jobs for a year, it instead takes 3 months or less depending on the job market peak times.
This is actually true & really helpful compare to LinkedIn or Indeed
That is true! I had to figure it out the hard way. I use recruiting companies and also look on linkedin apply there and then send a message to the poster or call if possible to follow up, then I also look on the companies website and apply there. For me it has got to the point where I`ll use linkedin more of a reference and applying as mentioned. Good advice!
Excellent strategy!
As a research tool if they have company and contacts with profiles. Small OSINT opportunity
You`re correct; I`ve never heard of anyone getting work through LinkedIn, and I was on it 10 years, until I left it 2 years ago.
You speak the truth my man!
Gee wizz, l wish l had seen your video 3 years ago. I have applied to +- 600 jobs. Only get a response to less than 5% of my applications. Starting now l will follow your tip. Thanks so much. Ant.
You're welcome and best of luck in your job search!
Glassdoor and indeed collect all of the applicant’s information, especially when using a resume, I wonder what they do with all of this personal information??? 🤨 🤨 🤨 This is a good enough reason to go the extra mile and apply directly at a company’s website.
Good comment. I don't have evidence of this, but since these services are "free" to the user, I wouldn't be surprised.
All those websites just collecting data and information, they can use for any purpose. It is part of the "Market strategy" and statistics.
It is a psychological gamble.
Woow ... This is very insightful. For sure I have been doing it wrong all along. Thank for this
Glad it was helpful!
I hate linked in. But my teachers say you must or not get hired. I am trying to challenge that
When an employer searches for you on the internet, your LinkedIn profile shows up on the first search results page, showing the employer that you are 'real'. Some employers say that if you don't show up in a search, you don't exist.
@@kissscareercoachingthat is the stupidest take I ever heard from a teacher. Teachers used to tell you to think for yourself and read multiple sources. Now teachers use tiktok and instagram and wiki as 'truth'. Talk about rotting your brain with social media and making it your only identity. If all people do is use social media 24/7 and are glued to their phone like a teenage or middle aged woman that drinks wine, that is a red flag. I wouldn't want to work for them either because they probably can't distinguish imagination from reality.
You are absolutely right I will go directly to the company from now on 😊 thanks very much
You’re welcome!
I've been doing this since I noticed I had applied to a job on Linkedin with 1,000+ applicants. I'm still unemployed, but knock on wood.
Good luck in your search!
The biggest piece of advice I can give from someone that interviews candidates daily… 1 show up 2 actually answer questions without just saying yes
Great advice! I always tell applicants to give examples.
Indeed is filled to the brim with ghost jobs
"Ghost jobs" - I like that phrase.
Lol!😂
@@kissscareercoaching It's being used all over the place now.
I left LinkedIn years ago. I also left Indeed too. Unless you have a cell phone, you cannot search or apply for a job. Sorry, not every has a cell phone. I'm not rich, I'm unemployed. I no longer have money. Looking at homelessness. A lot help these 2 places were.
You don't need a cell phone, but you do need access to a computer and the internet, which you can get at your local public library.
You actually make a lot of sense.
Thanks!
Thank you for the tip. I have been applying through Indeed, LinkedIn and other jobs sites for a couple of months now and wondered why I was getting no reply. I will follow your suggestion and hopefully this will yield good results. Thanks again
Best of luck!
Excellent tip.
Thank you so much for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
Get a number and call. It's easier than ever to find the number of the manager or higher up you need. Don't sell yourself, just call and enquire about the position. If it's an actual job, they will have someone call you back or even talk with you then and there. When you do apply, they already know you. This is how we did it in the 80s and 90s and it still works. Jobs are about people, not pieces of paper or application forms. Connect with a human and you leapfrog over your competitors. Back then it took serious work to find direct numbers but now they are there on the internet. Make the technology work for you instead of the other way round.
Great advice!
Right on! That's my conclusion. Applying online is really nasty because it provides the illusion what you're doing some thing useful, when in reality, you're just wasting your time.
Thanks for real and complete information God bless you
You're welcome!
If you listen to the audio of this video while working on something else, you would swear it's John Malkovich speaking about Jobs on LinkedIn. I subscribed just for the voice.
Haha, thanks!
I also noticed that some companies don't regularly update the jobs page at their website but when you see the company page either in linkedin or indeed, there's a recent posting of a new job.
This is true. When I see something like that, I call the company to confirm. Once when I called, the owner told me there are no job vacancies and he didn't know why there was a job posting on indeed.
@@kissscareercoaching Damn! These are the "ghost" postings.
No one updates websites anymore. Thats why LinkedIn exists.
@@kissscareercoachingdoesn't the employer have to still pay for that advert in Indeed?
@@skyblazeeternojobs can be posted for free, but for greater visibility and to attract more applicants, they can be 'sponsored', or paid.
Thanks for this. In my job search on LinkedIn my intuition and experience hunting for a job has led me to this idea as well.
Hmm so spend 5x the amount of time applying on the site? Maybe for jobs your really interested in but for mass applying that's a no go.
I've watched and sent this to so many people
Hey man, you are just very good at what you do. Well done.
Thanks!
Thank you sir you explained the best way to search the job on LinkedIn or other website love from India sir 🇮🇳
Thank You!
I totally agree! I've done this.
Thanks I learnt a ton and God bless..
You're welcome!
Very insightful! Thank you! I'm subscribing
You're welcome, and thank you!
Thats great, sir!
I have been applying to many a jobs online through the same platform and I get rejections in minutes after applying and that feels disastrous to mem 😢
I understand how you feel. Make sure that your resume is customized specifically to the job advertisement.
That's very helpful, thanks. Been getting zero response from Linkedin and Indeed.
There is no way that in 2023 calling the employer directly to inquire is his actual advice. SMH
I think he’s assuming you’re laid off or unemployed and have the time to do all that.
At one large company, if you call the company directly, you are blacklisted.
This is a lot of work. Applying for jobs on Indeed is as simple as swiping left or right in 2024.
If it works for you, great!
Indeed doesn't work, I prefer company website.
I applied over 100 jobs over the past 2 months, not a single interview.
I agree. If you are not getting interviews, did you customize your resume for each job posting, communicating a value proposition that matches the employer's needs? Did you optimize it to include the right keywords?
@KISSS Career Coaching Perhaps thats where I might have failed over the first few applications. But in the recent applications, I have been updating my resume considering the requirements of the job. One issue I might be having is that most of the experience zi have is from a foreign country, so it might be hard to acquire references and trust, though I am not sure.
Yes, that could be contributing to why you might not be getting called for interviews. If you have any domestic experience, even it it's volunteering or education, organize your resume so that these appear close to the top of your resume.
Thanks I heard this about Linkedin and Indeed. You have confirmed this theory. Trying to get a entry level job should not be this difficult. Also please do one on how to network to get a job as it is stressful applying to hundreds of jobs
Thanks! I'll see what I can do.
If I can find the job both on the company's career page and on LinkedIn or indeed why not apply on both? I've already tailored a cover letter for that job and perhaps answered some specific questions. Why not submit on both?
In that case, sure.
I agree that Linkedin has to improve the job search, and the following of the applications. Also I agree that many job position are not active in linkedin. You can see the same positions posted again and again.
Thank you so much for this very helpful video. I appreciate it so much. Subscribed. 😊
You're welcome!
This advice is so helpful! I feel like recently LinkedIn & indeed are not as effective. Applying directly on the company's website or reaching out to their hr department by calling seems to be better
Extremely useful information. Thank you Sir.
You're welcome!
I've applied to literally a little over 200 in the last six months. 2 things 1 My resume is nearly 97% auto mechanic with numerous employers of the last 12 years. 2 The jobs being posted are staying up for longer than 6 months and about 1 out over every 30 are actually being viewed, according to the notifications I get from Indeed.
I have seen this in other industries too. Employers may be very selective, or in some cases they may post a job opening to test the quality and quantity of applicants, not necessarily wanting to hire at the time.
@@kissscareercoaching I can't remember where I saw this particular video ( i think Asmondgold) But the video was about this topic and some Employers do this in inflate the numbers to present to their uppers or share holders to justify their "growth" or "desire" and when they do their quarterly reports .. it make them look good
@@doogeerugged89good to know. Thanks for sharing this info!
Thank you so much
You're welcome!
Thank you for the tips. I will apply the them in my job searches.
All the best in your job search!
Those job websites are complete crap. You will never get a confirmation of a submission, or a call back. The only thing that works is YOUR network. Yes, if you can scrape the sites for the companies websites, do it, for sure.
Absolutely agree that your network is your #1 asset.
I always wondered what the "promoted" was on LinkedIn. Even looking up on Google, it never explained it clearly. Thank you for your knowledge.
It’s Pay per click for LinkedIn. Everytime you open a promoted listing, that company has to pay LinkedIn a fee per click until they hire someone and close the listing
I mostly use indeed but its really a hit or miss. Applying directly on website takes time too. Regardless how you apply to jobs they take forever and years to get back to you. I just hate having to wait. The whole job process is annoying
I even thought about applying in person but I don't wanna go and embarrass myself cuz everything's online now. Do people still apply to jobs in person
In person applications are rare, unless it's retail. Like the saying goes, searching for a job is a full-time job.
@@kissscareercoaching ya definitely it's so annoying
@@ibstayfly using your network of connections, if you have one, is still the most effective way. And I'm talking about real people, not just LinkedIn.
@@kissscareercoaching true but unfortunately I don't have connections. I have LinkedIn too but never seem to get jobs on there either or connect with recruiters
yep i remember about ten years walking into some tech company and asking to apply. Looked at me like I was an alien lol
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As a multi trader engineer, I know one thing when it's comes to jobs, it's who you know not wat u describe on your CV.
Yeah you got your degree but no experience, no experience no chance, period.
Just wanted to wish good luck for all people searching for them dream job atm.
Connections and relationships are unbeatable!
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pr*ks!! Thank you for all that you do. *Adriannotch
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nothing they could do!" Much respect
I applied on the indeed and LinkedIn. And have not gotten a response to interview over 100 so far.
You have a lot of competition applying this way. Make sure you tailor your resume to each job posting. Wishing you all the best in your job search.
@@kissscareercoaching What is a better way to have a chance of getting the job?
@Mike Arima the short answer is 'networking'. A more specific answer depends on several factors, including your experience and the type of job you’re looking for, and is something I help job seekers with in my career coaching services.
@@kissscareercoaching I mean, for networking, where do I go to do that if not linkedin and indeed?
@@SadlySorrowful LinkedIn is great for networking, but not so great for applying for jobs because of the competition. In summary, find any of your connections that work for, have worked for, or are connected to anyone that works for any company that you are interested in. Then, reach out to them and ask if they can either introduce you to a manager, or share with you a manager's contact information. Contact those managers and communicate to them the value that you can provide to them and their company.
Thank you. This was good info. I have applied to so much job on indeed and linkedin but no response from the employer.
Wishing you all the best in your job search!