I have exactly the same problem and that's why I declined doing an exit interview with my last employer of 20 plus years. Now, come retirement... well that's a different story. Probably going to be more of a "Can we talk?".
Which is exactly why I report people to both HR and management. I’m a top performer and I never stay quiet when people are doing wrong. And guess what? They’ve taken action numerous times because of what I’ve said. And I almost always do exist interviews.
26yr male here, this advice is applicable at any age. Trust me, they don’t care about what you think needs to be changed and you absolutely do not say where you are going until after you already start the new job for a few weeks. I didn’t update my LinkedIn until a full month after transferring from my last job, you cannot trust anyone in the corporate world.
Be careful about name dropping, too. I had a couple of great interviews for a place that was really just a so-so opportunity, but they seemed extremely interested. When I went to call back the hiring manager/owner, I got directory of employees and recognized the name of guy who was really more of an acquaintance from previous job, and while we did not work closely with each other, I never had a problem with and assumed he has the same opinion of me-cordial, and no reason to assume any bad blood on either end. I happened in a brief subsequent conversation that we had worked together, and never heard from them again after that. Maybe he said some negative stuff about me (my suspicion to this day), maybe they didn't care for him or I would be the guy replacing him, or maybe they just went with another hire. It was probably 20 years ago, so I'll never know. Thankfully, it was really just a lateral move for me career wise and was no big loss.
The one thing you said that is the MOST correct was: "If they didn't care to ask you while you were employed there, why do they need to hear it now." HR is NOT your friend! What they are actually fishing for is for you to rat out your fellow employees who still need to work there.
Agreed. I have received calls from companies that someone left telling me not to hire so and so in case they’ve applied. It is not something I would do, and I doubt that it’s legal.
Doesn’t it put the company at risk if they say anything negative about a former employee? I heard HR will just agree to verify a person’s employment and that’s it.
There is no loyalty on the part of the employer. You owe them absolutely no loyalty. When you leave, just leave, that day with a very brief note at about 4:30pm saying, “Just so you know, this is my last day. I will not be working for this company after 5:00pm today.”
Exactly! I have burned few bridges. One I did. Resigned with a letter that said. Nicely, when I inevitably tell your abusive shop foreman, not in my chain of command to go F himself, I will for sure not receive 2 weeks notice. I am giving you the same. Quit at 8 am. Went for a nice breakfast started new job at around 9:20 am.
The only problem with that is that most companies require two weeks notice AND perfect attendance during that time OR they will refuse to pay any accrued vacation time or unused PTO hours. That being said, be mindful that they will do everything in their power to find any pretext whatsoever to avoid paying you that final lump sum (ie. two weeks notice must be ten WORKING days AND not one hour less than that.)
I did an exit interview at a company when I was 25 years old. I was fired for following direct instructions given by my supervisor. The instructions were incorrect and following them slowed down production. The interview went like this: HR stated that I could talk about any reasons around why I was leaving the job, except there was one rule, I was not to mention any complaint about my supervisor. I responded as follows, "So I am not allowed to mention anything my supervisor did that contributes to why I am being let go?" HR response, "Yes that is correct, you may now begin." I then stated, "Okay, I understand. Do you have my final paycheck for me? Got my final pay and left the building.
I was given instructions, I followed the instructions, and here we are. 😂
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You failed to understand your supervisor was ordered to get rid of you, exactly. They needed a reason and our supervisor was compliant in fabricating that.
That's been my stance forever. I make my questions, issues, concerns known while they can work on it. After I've resigned, I no longer have a vested interest in whatever happens.
Lawyer Here: Unless its in your contract, no interview. I'd read the contract provision carefully. Tell them to submit the "questions" in writing. Get advice about how to respond. Chances are, the company is "ass protecting" and trying to set up defenses if you file a lawsuit for wrongful termination, harassment [breach of contract,] or other work place prohibited conduct.
My forced retirement at 59 required a signature on a legal agreement that I would not challenge my termination, and unless I signed I would not get the maxed out years-of-service termination pay. I heard a few older employees decided to challenge. (probably hadn't been with the company as long as I had). But I just thought to myself, man the only people that would get any money in doing that challenge would be the lawyers. The termination numbers clearly indicated they were unloading as many higher paid employees as they could. But they had spread the distribution throughout the age range to make it look legit.
@@never2yield20 "Golden Handcuffs" suck. Happened to a high school lawyer friend of mine. They fired him at the top of his department, later hiring 3 replacements. You probably made the correct decision, being practical about the choices offered. Lawyers are expensive and nothing is guaranteed.
This is what happens when you romanticize "work". Work is where you go to earn money hopefully politely and efficiently. It's not a place to get a life, friends, a surrogate parent, etc. No one will take care of you better than you. A company you "love" will dump you just like that when it's bottom line demands. So never marry your job because all divorces are messy!!!
I was required to do an “exit interview” years ago (I was younger than 50) and I refused to answer questions, “no comment” “no opinion” . These exit interviews are not for anybody’s benefit except HR.
Small potatoes. Charge what the Corporate Suite gets per hour for the interview. V.P. of retail where I last worked took home the lump sum equivalent of $36,057.69 an hour. How do they make ends meet?
They wanted me to do an exit interview from every job I've ever done. I told them all no. They wouldn't pay me for it and I was no longer on the payroll. They don't make changes anyway so why would it matter to me as someone who's out the door.
Many of the "fired" employees in the 2009 film Up in the Air were recently laid-off in real life. They were asked to either react the way they did on their last day, or else say what they WISH they had said.
@@jamescaley9942 Not always. I have been walked out the door several times. Nothing I did wrong, just job elimination. From big very well known companies. That's what they did to all of the employees they let go.
And watch all the employer dry up and die you have to be Innovative right now this waiting on line at Marshall's is a joke you're begging to be decimated
Hubby (mid level manufacturing manager) quit on a horrible boss. He was asked out for coffee by the owner and purse strings of the company soon afterwards. He went and calmly and coolly let him know the reasons he quit. A couple months later the boss was let go. Turns out he’d been lying to the owner and cooking the books. Hubby now has a great job with a great boss 😊
My mom was an HR expert for years. When someone calls for a reference on an ex employee, most companies will only confirm that he/she worked for them. They won't say anything negative (or good) because they don't want to be sued.
@John Milton Not necessarily. When potential employers call to check on your job history, most HR will just confirm you worked there with little to no comment. If you want a past employer to go in depth on your job performance, get a letter of reference from them.
@John Milton no we have automated system that the employee has to authorize via self service request. You get a key and give to employers and the can go to website gives start stop $$ then expires
@John Milton wrong HR policy is to confirm employment. Performance references or suitability can be confirmed by having your manager willing to be a favorable reference. HR rarely knows anything about your actual work or strengths.
It sounds like you've had some tough experiences at past jobs that taught you to stay cautious. It's understandable that you prioritize your well-being and be ready to move on when the situation isn't right.
When I prepared to quit a horrible job with a revolving door of incompetent supervisors and backstabbing coworkers, I slowly removed my personal posessions over the course of a month before even giving my notice.
Really? So the time a co-worker was being treated for cancer and used up all her PTO, and HR allowed me and other employees to donate our vacation days to her, HR was being the enemy? Ummm, yeah...I don’t agree with you. YOU are HR. It’s the employees who build the culture. The HR department is a reflection of...yourself.
Ahem. I have worked in HR and it is absolutely your one and only friend when you suffer from an injury on the job, need some help with work/life balance, or must report illegal activities witnessed on the job.
@@georginatoland > Ahem. I have worked in HR and it is absolutely your one and only friend when you suffer from an injury on the job, need some help with work/life balance, or must report illegal activities witnessed on the job. Bull. People of faith will be fired at the drop of a hat for voicing opposition the pro-homosexual agenda of the company. HR will be the jack booted thugs that make it happen.
I left my former employer after 38 years. My exit interview consisted mostly of them going over the company issued equipment that I was turning in. Of course, the fact that I had maxed out my pension and that staying even a few days longer would cost me multiple six-figures, well, they knew why I was I leaving. I have to say the last year there i felt I was walking on egg shells and just wanted to survive that last year without incident. But, I made it. The stress relief was incredible.
@TrueKen I was actually in a program that was designed to encourage experienced people to stay on. But, the program had a limit of 8 years. If I stayed beyond that I would lose a boat load of money. And the way the system was structured, it was revenue neutral to the employer and the pension fund.
@TrueKen Well, while I haven't gone back to work, things haven't gone as planned and I considered it. I even sent out a few applications. You see, about the time I retired, my wife got laid off from her job due to the position being eliminated. Does that sound familiar from other Over50TV vids? I had planned to go on her Med Insurance. Instead I ending up spending $18K per year for COBRA. BUT, I won't be going back to my former employer.
@@dungeonmaster6292 There are lots of major employers who still have pensions. Mostly, those that are union jobs. Also, lots of government jobs, police/fire/ems, have pensions. Interestingly, the job I retired from had a decent (not great) pension but I was not covered by Social Security or Medicare so I don't get either of those. Well, do get Medicare, but I have to pay for it about $400/month.
Weird. My results to do the exit interview worked very much to my advantage. A few years ago when the company I worked for was about to start layoffs, I asked the director if he would put me at the top of the list, because unlike a number of my younger colleagues had home mortgages, kids, car notes, and little to no savings. I lived in an apartment, all my vehicles paid for, kids grown up and moved out and I had a nice savings. Anyhow, sure enough, a couple of weeks later, HR calls me in and lays me off, and with much confusion in his eyes, I reach over with a big smile, shook his hand and said, "Thank you so very much, this is AWESOME!". While he was still baffled at my response to getting laid off, he goes into the details and ultimately closes with a large severance. Once the formalities were done, I mentioned I happened to be working on a large project for the company, and what were they going to do now? HR guy said probably hire contractors. I mentioned I was the only one in the company that had all the certifications and licenses to work on the job, and what a pain it was going to be for him to find people with those kinds of qualifications. I then asked would the company possibly be interested in hiring me as a contractor, and he said yes, so they hired me as a contractor, and I went back to work doing exactly the same thing the next day. But ultimately, the company was doomed due to poor management and I left 6 months later for a major sweetheart job with the time my negotiations bought during that exit interview. The lesson here is to NEVER be the last rat off a sinking ship, be the first one. Sorry my story didn't really fit the narrative of the video, but that is how that exit interview went. And that director who laid me off, after he and I had taken different paths and a couple of companies later, we are still working together today.
Very true. Years and years ago, I was the first person laid off from a company that was going under. I was the only one that got two weeks severance. By the time they got to everybody else there is no money left.
I also went through a mass layoff process. My direct manager ( who did not make the decision to let me go, it came from above) was impressed with my positive attitude during this unexpected meeting letting me go and my severance rights and benefits and two days later, I was offered a parallel position in another department. The best advice in this clip is to simply not burn bridges. My manager did not have to but he felt the need to ask around if anything was open despite that layoff period.
Ultimately, never burn your bridges, however you feel. Twice I have returned to a company I previously left, and there is every possibility you will cross paths again with a previous hiring manager elsewhere. Most importantly, leave with your head high and with a clear conscience.
I went on to a new job that requires periodic background checks for security clearances. They have contacted former managers a few times. Although, I was laid off from my previous job, I kept a positive attitude and it definitely paid off.
Exactly. There is no way burning bridges helps. I've returned to companies. Former bosses have been my employees and vice versa. Unless you are changing industries you'll probably see the same people. As much as people change jobs these days, you never know.
I have been with the same company for 30 years. Except for the 2 times I quit. Once for 2 years and once for 3. They kept offering me more than I could say no to. I can retire in 2 years and I will burn bridges this time so I don't get sucked back in again.
After years of dealing with bad HR reps I was so happy when they shut the HR office down and now HR is online with remote reps instant karma for being useless
Just found your channel and this 58 year-old thinks I need you in my life. And I appreciate the comment section. I work with all young people and it's nice to have people in the same age group to relate to and draw support from.
I left a resort security post, 🏕 campgrounds, RV, lodges summer 2020. I was not employed long but I did quit & later sent a detailed email to the corporate ethics office. I did it mainly to let them see how the security staff is really run & the serious flaws that need corrected.
Young folks - It's really important that you establish yourself professionally at an early age so that you don't have to be working for other people by the time you hit your fifties. Stay out of debt and invest so that when you're older you can have some peace of mind.
I don't have to be working for other people (I don't have to be working at all). I was out of debt in my 20s. But working for an existing organisation is easier than running my own company. So yes to giving yourself options, but there is no need to specifically avoid working for other people. Just avoid doing jobs you don't like.
@@mamachicken4602 I admire your dedication, but some of us cannot stomach the risk of going out on our own, and sometimes over 50 you may not want that instability, or having to 're-invent' yourself.
I've never been in debt but have never had enough money to invest, either. Now in my early 40s with a young family and cannot get a loan. Have always worked hard but nothing to show for it. (Materially , that is. I have a lovely healthy family.)
@@YukinagaFinn One thing you can do. Invest your time and energy into your kids. They are your best investment. Raise them right and it won't matter that you don't have an inheritance for them. They will get along well in the world if you raise them right.
This is great advice. I also recommend, from personal experience, that if you are interviewing for a new job that you NOT say anything to the prospective employer that even remotely could be interpreted as a criticism of your prior or current employer. I learned this lesson the hard way and regret it because in retrospect I think the prospective employers may have been saying to themselves, "Would he say the same thing about us?" As a result, I didn't get the new job that should have been a slam dunk for me. Sometimes less is more and the less you say about a prior employer the better. Learn from my mistake and keep your mouth shut.
If they don't want to take me in my full forthrightness, then I don't want to work there. I'm not into censoring what I say or being polite about companies that don't deserve it. If they don't like that, then fine. So far I've found being direct with people has stood me in good stead.
@@Wookey. Direct is fine, but be careful it doesn't SOUND negative......best way is to practice speaking your answers out-loud, then being really honest about how those answers might sound.
> I also recommend, from personal experience, that if you are interviewing for a new job that you NOT say anything to the prospective employer that even remotely could be interpreted as a criticism of your prior or current employer. Good advise. In a phone interview, I was much too chatty. Was asked why I'd waited before looking for a new opportunity. Strike two. Strike one was the interviewer failing to call me at the appointed time, not leaving a message, and calling me the next day. Strike three was another HR rep telling me there was another open house hiring event and offering to let one of the managers know I was coming in. This, after sitting through about 4 hours of job fair, in person interview that day, and two phone interviews after that. This clueless HR drone was basically offering me a chance to go back to the end of the line.
I quit a company about 8 years ago and they insisted on the exit interview. Scheduled it on my last day. I went to it, being the first time I've ever done an exit interview. I was given a questionnaire prior to the interview about how pay and compensation should have been improved. So I thought that was the interview. I sat down in the HR department (the largest single department at that company) and she was only asking me questions about diversity. Did I feel there was enough people of color being hired on, did I feel that there was enough people of color in management. I finally had enough of these questions and said "Look, I honestly don't care about the gender, sexual orientation or skin color of those I work with and for. I only care that the person who I report to was hired because that person was the best candidate for the job and not hired because of their skin color, sexual orientation or gender." She looked at me and said "I am glad this is your last day. We don't tolerate racists." Yep, never going back to that company. Never even shopping there again (this was their corporate office that I was working in).
I used my supervisor's comment back at him "Things change!" I tried the day before to resolve an issue and it's what I got, sooo I used it the next day
I left a company after working for them three years of loyal service to them! I had been hired through a temp agency and worked my way into a full time position with them! When I asked for a raise the answer I got was "You could be replaced!" basically telling me "Shut up and do your job" which at that point I was doing the work of my one supervisor and two of the engineers who worked in my department, yet I was paid less then most of the people I worked with, even people who'd been there far less time then I had too!! So one morning as I got ready for work I decided "Why bother?" and normally I (seldom if ever) called in....so that morning I didn't bother calling in to ask for a day off! It was THEN I just stopped going to work!! I spent the day, all day, relaxing, and the next morning when I again did NOT go to work and didn't call in either again, the phone started ringing off the hook around 10 A.M.!!! The head of HR asked me if I was going to return to work! I told him "NO" and further explained I had "no incentive to return". He offered me a "position change" but no raise and I told him politely "Thanks but NO!" and that was the end of that call!! And hour later my former boss called begging me to come back to work and I told him I couldn't!! The job certainly wasn't worth the $5 a hour pay I was earning then the nearly 30 mile drive to get there offered me nothing as well!!
In my experience, HR often comes on in a very friendly manner as if they are a sympathetic friend when in reality they are there to protect the interests of the company first and foremost. Forgetting this reality can entice you to drop your guard which I happen to believe is often their true intent. I've seen it happen to coworkers who suddenly find their motivations and actions being called into question when the tables suddenly turn and end up regretting their mistake. The less said the better.
"HR often comes on in a very friendly manner as if they are a sympathetic friend when in reality they are there to protect the interests of the company first and foremost" do you see that anywhere else in other parts of society?
Good advice. When you find yourself "suddenly incompetent," you will find it hard to stay calm, talking to people who have been tasked to get rid of you. It's just a formality on their part and a complete waste of time on your part.
My industrial psychology class recommended sending out questionnaires to former employees some months AFTER they leave. Once they are secure in a new job, they will give you more useful feedback.
@@nghtwtchmn129 I doubt my place would want my feedback :) I left and refused an Exit interview, people were leaving in droves due to the new managements policies, I doubt they wanted to change. Covid finished the company off... Lucky escape.
The exit interview is an event which requires a similar amount of preparation equal to going into a courtroom, whether they're getting rid of you on account of age, been fired or handed in your resignation. The important thing is that you must remain at all times in the driving 💺 seat controlling the interview, not the HR person facing you as you may be negotiating the best leaving package 📦 from that company and it is important to never berate the company or any of their employees, even in jest and to impress upon the interviewer the company's good will making it known that they treat their personnel right even though you know that is not the case. If you're facing a messy termination, it is important not to mention anything about lawyers. That comes afterwards. Part of their package is a good reference which is classed as a legal document in some countries and never reveal your plans apart from taking a well deserved holiday. I have actually been fired and entered a long illustrious career afterwards which I would expect pisses off the company that sent you out the door?.
At my last job I got suspended for 3 days because I had my hair cut too short. I told the boss it would take longer than 3 days for it to grow back. While I was gone those 3 days, I went to the national corporate office about what happened. I went back to work after the suspension and HR presented me with a check for those 3 days. Oh, I was planning on a new multiple sclerosis treatment that was a form of chemo. That is why I had my hair buzzed.
When you get down to it, it's none of their business why I'm leaving, and like he says, if they had any concern at all during your employment, there wouldn't be any need for it!
Exactly - if they thought anything of you at all, they'd at least make an effort to find out what pissed you off so much that you wanted to leave, and try to at least get you to reconsider. If they're not doing that, they're not worth it, simple as that !
My last job was an “at will” assignment and when it abruptly ended with 2 days notice the company HR “ reminded” me 2 hours before the COB on the last day that I had not submitted my last self-evaluation ( which I had ). Knowing that my company email was soon to be disabled, I elected to ignore their request. If your exiting employer asks you where you are going, tell them something obscure like “ I’m thinking about getting a hot dog cart and finding a good corner. That will be the LAST time they ask you that question.
I was just thinking that. But then I realized, of the times that I've voluntarily left a job, I've never been asked to do an exit interview. They already knew I was moving onto other things in my career. Or back in my college days, I was going back to school. So maybe exit interviews are just more common when you're over 50? Or for employees who have been at a company for a really long time? I'm turning 50 later this year, so that's why I watched the video.
I never did an exit interview for the major corporation I worked for. I had nothing good to say and I was leaving to be self employed. They didn't want me to leave, so I politely declined without any explanation.
I think he is exactly correct. I'm over 50, just gave my 2-weeks notice today, and my letter of resignation was very short, very complimentary, and truly tells them everything that they need to know. I do not expect a request for an exit interview. Thanks for this very informative video.
Good point about not telling co-workers about your new job if you have one lined up. I’ve not considered the risk of someone with a grudge contacting my new employer to bad mouth me.
I retired as a technician for a telecom company. I gave my supervisor 5 days notice and I was being generous. I could've gave them just one day's notice. I didn't even attend my retirement party. Too many slackers in attendance, including supervisors. When I turned in my company laptop, they asked for my password. I told them it was "I hate this job".
Last time I turned in a company laptop I wiped it first. It wouldn't even boot, much less ask for a password. No hardware damage, just securely wiped the disk.
Sometimes bridges NEED to be burnt. In my 40 plus year employment career I have burnt two bridges. Things happen and they were as glad to see me go as I was to leave. If necessary to burn a bridge, make sure they remember the fire.
I agree 💯 Thing is you're leaving, assuming for good reason, why would you ever go back? Use other references. I never use present work references because I don't want to tip off anyone at my current workplace that I am even searching for a new employer. Even thinking about returning can hold you back from fully committing to a new path, job etc. Do you want to work for a company that has given you a job offer but reminds it due to information that could easily be fabricated anyway??
I totally agree with you, nothing good will ever come out of an exit interview for you! When they asked me (they actually told me it was required) I reluctantly agreed & then made myself very scarce for the rest of my 3 weeks notice, which was very easy as we were flat out at the time & my schedule had me out on the road before the office staff arrived & back after they had gone home! HR department didn’t realise until after I had left & still wanted it done after I was working at my new employment! I very politely told them I was very busy settling into my new role & was no longer available!
There was this one time I was being let go. They started off telling me that I was getting a month Severance and my benefits would be covered for almost two. As they were talking I was having this conversation with myself in my head. I kept telling myself don't say a word - you can only hurt yourself. This was hard especially when I was told that I was a good accountant but that there wasn't a spot for me. Meanwhile three weeks earlier they brought someone on for a part-time position that didn't exist before.
Work is there to pay the mortgage - nothing more. HR is there to stop your employer getting sued. The only person who cares about your career is you. Remember that, and you’ll be fine!
Exit interviews are a great way to leave doors opened. You have to go into them thinking how it can benefit you; never say anything negative. Think of it as a game of wits. Also, most believe that the exit interview is only with H.R., it isn't. It starts when you give notice. When management wants to take you out to a fair well lunch, it's most often a way to lower your guard in the hopes to get information. You may also see them change their attitude towards you and appear friendlier and more approachable. They'll make comments like, "Guess you must me feeling great to finally be leaving this dump." Always answer positive towards the company and your colleagues. The battle of wits ends when you're at your new job not when you exit the building.
@@kekelaward it's important specially if you signed NDAs or NCCs. Some exit interviews want to know if you're going to the competition and how to keep from paying you owed bonuses, accumulated leave, 401K matches or other incentives. They're not really looking for your feedback to improve employee retention. They do that by providing "anonymous" company mandated training to their employees.
I worked for a company who required an exit interview in order to get your bonus payout. I was told (by someone outside the company) that the reason they require the interview, is to get on paper that there was nothing you could come back to them on with a lawsuit. They ask specific questions about whether you were sexually harassed, discriminated against, treated unfairly, in a toxic work environment, etc. They document all that as a no, so you can't come back later saying it happened.
I've had a few similar comments on this video. If you experienced any of the treatment you outline I'd think about getting legal advice. Either way, tread carefully.
I always thought that an exit interview was to confirm that all the obligations were met - you got your last paycheck, your PTO was paid off, equipment and keys returned, you know when your healthcare stops and what will happen to your 401K, etc. Now I know :)
.Nothing should be put in your personal file that you have not seen and signed by you. Exit interviews are done by HR what else do I need to say. Never tell them where you are going, do not give them a head start on a IP or non-compete.
100 spot on, Lou. Only info I provided in my exit interview was to document that I offered to stay on via contract to maintain some stability for the organization, which was declined. Documented that so that anyone interested would know that I offered to stay so no one would blame me when the place went to hell, which it did.
In my twenties I've left a company that was going downhill and they did exactly that. They retaliated and called the HR of the company I went to. Never a good idea to talk to them about your plans. Or about the past. HR are friendly. But they're not your friend
My last exit interview was about 30 years ago. Their first question was how much more money I will get in my next job. My response was, "I will get less money than what I was earning here." I got up and walked out, as the HR drone sat there with a stunned look on his face.
What would make HR feel like they have a right to know what your next salary would be? Unless they were going to try and give you a raise to get you to stay.
Remember word goes around in the sector you are in and HR people talk to each other, especially when they requesting a reference from your last employer. Do not trust HR with any insights or hints about your true reasons to leave, remember word spreads.
No company is perfect. Every company has good and bad people. When I remember the past I prefer to think about the reasons why I feel gratitude, because there are always such reasons. The only feedback that I would have to give them would be about spreading situations that generate gratitude in people. Thinking is difficult, this is why people judge. I try to be the best version of myself, not allowing the dark side to go in, and that will eventually attract good people. It is better to stay close to good people and away and stay away from bad people. Good people are not those who say good things, they are those who DO good things.
I enjoyed reading your comment. Good lessons can be taken from your words. It is wise to make an effort to stay close to good people and away from bad people . Thank you.
They absolutely do tell prospective future employers things they shouldn't. I've heard it happen with my own ears. I never trust people who tell me things are confidential or kept private.
This happened to a friend at a law office (the irony) who was fired because of vaxcine mandates. They told the future would be employer this information and she missed out on that job as well. She finally landed a job better than the one that fired her.
Most companies are terrified of exit interviews. They feel they have no control over you at that point and that is threatening to them. I never had one. If I was asked, I would turn it down. It can only benefit the company. After being treated poorly, I am not interested in helping the company.
But a smart company would care. It would be foolish for a company not to know everything that you were thinking, especially if you volunteer the information ingenuously in some unguarded moment. This is all for their advantage not yours, knowledge is power.
Yes, this advice applies to all workers but I also think older workers should be extra wary about participating in an exit interview. I say this because the potential fallout could impact older workers more severely than it would impact a younger person given older workers employment options grow increasingly limited over time due to ageism.
Lou, Great video I fully agree. I have worked for 10 organizations in the last 40 years, and there is no upside. The only way I would blasts them if I hit the lottery big enough, then I would give them an interview with subpoenas for HR lawsuits :) Also, I have not told an employer where I was going in over 30 years. I saw a co-worked get bad burned by doing that. No Upside.
I have an exit interview when I left my company. I said a lot of polite and many direct things, and I meant every word I said. I hope everything was written in my file, because it will prove prophetic one day. I walked out feeling great, and still feel great today.
I gave an exit interview once.... They talked me into staying, huge raise, less hours, a small piece of the company and first right of refusal when/if the owner decides to sell... I still work there 8 years later.
Good advice, and I've used it at all 10 full-time jobs I've resigned from. If they insist, just go in and constantly say 'Decline to state' to all questions they ask. First company I worked at laid everyone off suddenly (moving production to S.E. Asia, mgmt. consolidated in Georgia offices), and they wanted to do exit interviews - REALLY?!?!? At the second company I was 9 months out from finishing a mech engineering degree and kept applying to get one of the many engineering jobs they were always recruiting for, but was always turned down since I was still in school, even when I was two months away from graduating and even though they recruited seniors at local colleges!. I got a job with another company in a related field, resigned, and my former employer wanted to know why I was leaving - another "REALLY?!?!?' moment.
If the job is not a bargain for you and the employer, leave. Also go interview every few years to obtain leverage for negotiating for your market value. 3% per year is NOT a raise. I managed 5% year over year so that i doubled THE 4% year over year inflation number compound interest works
I'm former HR and our corporate attorney recommended that we not offer anything other than confirm dates of employment and the position the person held - period. We couldn't say anything at all other than that including whether they quit, were fired....nothing else, not a thing... no matter what they asked, we were only allowed to state that it was corporate policy to provide only that information for any and all employment references or verifications. No exceptions.
Good advice! What if the job title was incorrect? Promotions don't always make it into the personal file when an HR department is overwhelmed. Can trigger an unwanted or embarrassing discussion trying to set the record straight, when instead each side intended to keep the meeting short. Happens even in multi-$BN revenue companies
I remember a long time ago the company I was working for was threatening to hold my last paycheck unless I did an exit interview. I told them go ahead and try. When they knew I was calling their bluff they gave me my check but they took their time mailing it.
I know someone who had a terrible experience - they gave their notice to take up a fantastic opportunity at a start up company but made the mistake of telling their old boss where they were going - turns out the two companies had the same investor. The old boss contacted the investment company saying this start-up was poaching staff. The start-up were told if they took that individual their funding would be pulled! So the job offer was rescinded. The individual was given a salary hike in his same job the investor saying if he’s that valuable that needs to be reflected in his salary to avoid any future temptation. Left a soured relationship and the individual left the company a few years later anyway to take career break. It’s good to talk but sometimes and for somethings it’s good to be discreet.
Absolutely spot on Every time HR has ever asked to interview me it's been a trap. Their job is to maintain the status quo. Their job is looking out for #1 and your job is to look out for #1. Other than what is necessary, they should know as little about you as possible.
Having been a recruiter in Japan since the '80s I can say that your advice is spot-on. The emotional side of things is more of what I see than the risk of information leaks (solid points still). The never say where your going and 'I'll contact you when I'm settled for heart-to-heart is 100% correct'.
I refused at my last job, because I decided months before quitting that I was not going to tell them anything that might help them. Not that they would listen anyway. You're correct. There is no upside for you. At the very least, it is a complete waste of your time.
The HR dept is your enemy, not friend. When I left corporate America job, when asked at the interview I knew not to tell the truth. And everything is in writing. I had to think twice about what to write. I just wrote - I had “to attend to an elderly parent”. That was it. The exit interview covers a lot of things. So, I happened to not work any longer but most would at my age. Never burn a possible bridge. I overheard a well respected up and comer also my age 55 leaving, being asked repeatedly why? by his VP, he just kept saying, while smiling, he planned it from a long time ago. Both him and I left not under good circumstances. He went to another company.
@@Over50tv I tell you, had to think fast to come up with something, did have an elderly parent but my Brother was attending to her. I also was asked to do a phone in survey by some consulting company. You may have not of heard this before. It was supposed to be a call in question and answer type of interview. I knew it could be no good, so I called and left them a voice message - with a faked a speaking disorder claimed to have developed recently - I did a breaking/repeating stuttering voice. I bet I sounded bad and convincing. Almost broke out laughing though. They called back right away and said I didn’t have to do it.
What an excellent video. Thank you Lou. Emotion and pent up frustration often gets the best of people when they're put in that sort of situation. It's a slippery slope once you start detailing the concerns you had in a job and as others have pointed out, even if you're trying to "help" it's not going to assist in the way you'd hope.
I really respect your courage and positivity to broadcasting this channel, to help the seniors fighting and improving their life, I am soon 50 and I am convinced that I need to build up my own business. But you know, the most painful part for me personally is to acknowledge my mistakes in my life so far, not only at my jobs and also how I manage my personal financial situation. Here is my lesson I learned: start to face myself without any excuses and find the best quality of myself, and make it to the utmost power to engine my life. Thank you for your channel!
Hello Pang Lila! Thank you for the kind comment. I think the lessons you mention you learned are good lessons we should all follow. I encourage you to build up your own business. Another thing you may want to consider is to work with a business or career coach. Thank you for the comment.
Great point. I recently left a company and thought I would do an exit interview to help them improve. I came to my senses and realized the interview was to protect them rather than me. When I saw the Outlook invitation there was 2 people from HR. I canceled the interview.
HR is not your friend. They are there for the benefit of the company.
Exactly!!
Do HR employees do exit interview?
You nailed it !!! HR is not your friend.
Yes! But it depends on the organization. I see it more when a manager leaves and less when a line worker exits.
Well said, Anthony. Well said.
The funny part is that now that I'm over 50, I'm much more inclined to tell them exactly what I think.
That's why they don't hire us we tell it like it is
Exactly...
Yep, and 2020 drama only made it worse.
I have exactly the same problem and that's why I declined doing an exit interview with my last employer of 20 plus years. Now, come retirement... well that's a different story. Probably going to be more of a "Can we talk?".
Amen!!
Always be on your guard when dealing with HR. The number one purpose of HR is to protect the company.
Which is exactly why I report people to both HR and management. I’m a top performer and I never stay quiet when people are doing wrong. And guess what? They’ve taken action numerous times because of what I’ve said. And I almost always do exist interviews.
@@BadMannerKorea Totally agree.
HR = Legal. Period.
They are there to protect their jobs.
yep, no lie there.
26yr male here, this advice is applicable at any age. Trust me, they don’t care about what you think needs to be changed and you absolutely do not say where you are going until after you already start the new job for a few weeks.
I didn’t update my LinkedIn until a full month after transferring from my last job, you cannot trust anyone in the corporate world.
Exactly! Thanks for the comment!
Particularly if you're going to their competition, which is often likely.
I had a coworker who left, never said why. Then he posted on LinkedIn how happy is is to be unemployed and how toxic his las place of employment was.
The heck with that, don't update LinkdIn until you're looking for another job!!
Be careful about name dropping, too. I had a couple of great interviews for a place that was really just a so-so opportunity, but they seemed extremely interested. When I went to call back the hiring manager/owner, I got directory of employees and recognized the name of guy who was really more of an acquaintance from previous job, and while we did not work closely with each other, I never had a problem with and assumed he has the same opinion of me-cordial, and no reason to assume any bad blood on either end. I happened in a brief subsequent conversation that we had worked together, and never heard from them again after that. Maybe he said some negative stuff about me (my suspicion to this day), maybe they didn't care for him or I would be the guy replacing him, or maybe they just went with another hire. It was probably 20 years ago, so I'll never know. Thankfully, it was really just a lateral move for me career wise and was no big loss.
The one thing you said that is the MOST correct was: "If they didn't care to ask you while you were employed there, why do they need to hear it now." HR is NOT your friend! What they are actually fishing for is for you to rat out your fellow employees who still need to work there.
HR is not there to help. They are there to mitigate risk.
And guess what sweet pea you are that risk they are managing that's how look at you with the security guard escorting you out the door
@@sitdowndogbreath fpund the Karen working in HR
@@JasonW. Definitely.
They work for the company!
@@sitdowndogbreath the toxic atmosphere and antagonism is a risk in any environment whether you work there or not
You should never do an exit interview. Period. The company already knows what their issues are, they just don't care.
Didn't even know this was a thing...
Wouldn't an exit interview just devolve into yet another "it's not you, it's me" bullshit kind of thing anyways?
Why are you leaving? The same thing I’ve been telling you for the last year and a half. And everyone else has been telling you too.
Problems, not "issues."
@@JeffC-fq1be I was corrected by a colleague when I used the word "problems" because it should be called "concerns."
@@whatevergoesforme5129 That works, too.
I used to be a Recruiter: he’s right. Just resign, offer to give two weeks, andthat’s it. Do not say where you’re going.
Agreed. I have received calls from companies that someone left telling me not to hire so and so in case they’ve applied. It is not something I would do, and I doubt that it’s legal.
Doesn’t it put the company at risk if they say anything negative about a former employee? I heard HR will just agree to verify a person’s employment and that’s it.
@@norcalbry
That's what's legal. Just one of a handful of labor laws that are commonplace to violate
Exit interviews are a data gathering exercise for your soon to be ex employer
nah i always tell them im gonna work for McDonald's MGR of the fry station 9 to 5 that usually shuts them down quickly
These companies have zero issue firing you on the spot but call it unprofessional to not give them 2 weeks notice.
There is no loyalty on the part of the employer. You owe them absolutely no loyalty. When you leave, just leave, that day with a very brief note at about 4:30pm saying, “Just so you know, this is my last day. I will not be working for this company after 5:00pm today.”
Don’t give them 2 weeks if you live in “right to work” state they’ll say “we’ll chat internally if we even need you for the 2 weeks.”
Exactly!
I have burned few bridges. One I did.
Resigned with a letter that said. Nicely, when I inevitably tell your abusive shop foreman, not in my chain of command to go F himself, I will for sure not receive 2 weeks notice.
I am giving you the same.
Quit at 8 am. Went for a nice breakfast started new job at around 9:20 am.
I totally agree. If you're giving your resignation letter, why not make it effective immediately rather than giving two weeks' notice?
The only problem with that is that most companies require two weeks notice AND perfect attendance during that time OR they will refuse to pay any accrued vacation time or unused PTO hours. That being said, be mindful that they will do everything in their power to find any pretext whatsoever to avoid paying you that final lump sum (ie. two weeks notice must be ten WORKING days AND not one hour less than that.)
I did an exit interview at a company when I was 25 years old. I was fired for following direct instructions given by my supervisor. The instructions were incorrect and following them slowed down production. The interview went like this: HR stated that I could talk about any reasons around why I was leaving the job, except there was one rule, I was not to mention any complaint about my supervisor. I responded as follows, "So I am not allowed to mention anything my supervisor did that contributes to why I am being let go?" HR response, "Yes that is correct, you may now begin." I then stated, "Okay, I understand. Do you have my final paycheck for me? Got my final pay and left the building.
I can't imagine a reason why HR wouldn't want the whole story. I would have left, too.
I was given instructions, I followed the instructions, and here we are. 😂
You failed to understand your supervisor was ordered to get rid of you, exactly. They needed a reason and our supervisor was compliant in fabricating that.
They don’t need a reason in most US states.
If you were fired wouldn't HR know why you were leaving?
They didn't care what I thought when they were paying me.Why now.
Excellent point.
True that👍🏼
They are hoping that you won't challenge them in court. If they can ferret you out now, they can prepare a better defense.
Good point
That's been my stance forever. I make my questions, issues, concerns known while they can work on it. After I've resigned, I no longer have a vested interest in whatever happens.
Lawyer Here: Unless its in your contract, no interview. I'd read the contract provision carefully. Tell them to submit the "questions" in writing. Get advice about how to respond. Chances are, the company is "ass protecting" and trying to set up defenses if you file a lawsuit for wrongful termination, harassment [breach of contract,] or other work place prohibited conduct.
Sir, Thank You, Sir! When knowledge has been brought to me I appreciate, it more than anything, especially for free!
Great advise, thank you!
Fred G - Thanks for that perspective.
My forced retirement at 59 required a signature on a legal agreement that I would not challenge my termination, and unless I signed I would not get the maxed out years-of-service termination pay. I heard a few older employees decided to challenge. (probably hadn't been with the company as long as I had). But I just thought to myself, man the only people that would get any money in doing that challenge would be the lawyers. The termination numbers clearly indicated they were unloading as many higher paid employees as they could. But they had spread the distribution throughout the age range to make it look legit.
@@never2yield20 "Golden Handcuffs" suck. Happened to a high school lawyer friend of mine. They fired him at the top of his department, later hiring 3 replacements.
You probably made the correct decision, being practical about the choices offered. Lawyers are expensive and nothing is guaranteed.
This is what happens when you romanticize "work". Work is where you go to earn money hopefully politely and efficiently. It's not a place to get a life, friends, a surrogate parent, etc. No one will take care of you better than you. A company you "love" will dump you just like that when it's bottom line demands. So never marry your job because all divorces are messy!!!
Pow! With the Truth Bullets!
Well stated.👍
My older brother once told me. "Even if I'm working for someone else, I'm always working for myself first"
Their can never be loyalty to a job because they'll get rid of you in an instant. Nothing personal they'll say only buisness
100% truth. That's why I'll never understand workaholics. Work is a means to an end. Aka a paycheck.
I was required to do an “exit interview” years ago (I was younger than 50) and I refused to answer questions, “no comment” “no opinion” . These exit interviews are not for anybody’s benefit except HR.
That's a good way to handle it
When asked about issues, conflicts, problems, “nothing comes to mind.”
No, it's worse than this. Like the police, your lawyer would say DON'T speak to them. It can only hurt you.
Charge a 1000 bucks for an exit interview and if they pay - tell them how wonderful they are!
exactly
Small potatoes. Charge what the Corporate Suite gets per hour for the interview. V.P. of retail where I last worked took home the lump sum equivalent of $36,057.69 an hour. How do they make ends meet?
I seriously doubt the Corporate VP conducts the interview, though.
Omg....I was going to comment the exact same thing !! 🤣🤣😂
@@RARenfield 🤣
Why waste your time on an exit interview? You're not on their payroll anymore.
Yes, another good point! It’s definitely a waste of time!
They wanted me to do an exit interview from every job I've ever done. I told them all no. They wouldn't pay me for it and I was no longer on the payroll. They don't make changes anyway so why would it matter to me as someone who's out the door.
Unless you are having a "Jerry Maguire moment" and storming out on impulse, there is usually a notice period before leaving.
Many of the "fired" employees in the 2009 film Up in the Air were recently laid-off in real life. They were asked to either react the way they did on their last day, or else say what they WISH they had said.
@@jamescaley9942 Not always. I have been walked out the door several times. Nothing I did wrong, just job elimination. From big very well known companies. That's what they did to all of the employees they let go.
Because when you hit 50 you tend to be more upfront, honest and to the point. No employer really wants to hear that.
So very true! That’s why it’s not to your benefit to give an exit interview! Avoid exit interviews.
And watch all the employer dry up and die you have to be Innovative right now this waiting on line at Marshall's is a joke you're begging to be decimated
I would tell them nothing! You are the only one that has your back.
That happened to me once I turned 30.
One nice thing about being over 50: You're old enough to remember a song that Johnny Paycheck sang in the 1970's.
Take this job and shove it, I ain't workin' here no more.
I'm 46, and I remember it just fine. I remember when he made an appearance on The Dukes of Hazzard, too.
@@jaklumen Well, you were 5 when that song came out, and it has been in a BUNCH of movies, so even someone who is 5 today could have heard it.
Hmm 🤔 What song is that?
@@collegeman1988 : Scroll up and look at Gene Bradley's comment.
Never become more loyal to the company then they are to you.
So no loyalty what so ever
Nicely put.
Hubby (mid level manufacturing manager) quit on a horrible boss. He was asked out for coffee by the owner and purse strings of the company soon afterwards. He went and calmly and coolly let him know the reasons he quit. A couple months later the boss was let go. Turns out he’d been lying to the owner and cooking the books. Hubby now has a great job with a great boss 😊
It sounds like it couldn't have worked out better for your husband and your family. I'm glad. Thank you for watching my video.
That's not what usually happens, though.
Saying “hubby” is cringe
The Boss is not H.R.
Don't talk to the police... don't talk to HR... It will always end badly for you.
I'm a cop...over 50....I concur.
That's funny! I was thinking the exact same thing.
😂true
Everybody wants to hear some spilt tea
HR = Human Remains.
You should never give an exit interview at any age.
Like they really care why you are leaving.
This is the real answer. It's like you're back in school and you have to go to the principal's office.
@@qdllc Most really do want to know why you are leaving but you would be smart to keep quiet.
@@bluegrasskid4835 The only reasons should be those you have carefully considered and decided to put in your resignation letter.
@@MK_ULTRA420
The only difference is you're already holding the diploma.
My mom was an HR expert for years. When someone calls for a reference on an ex employee, most companies will only confirm that he/she worked for them. They won't say anything negative (or good) because they don't want to be sued.
Thats referred to as the "tombstone" letter.
they dont say anything on the phone, but on the golf course.............................
@John Milton Not necessarily. When potential employers call to check on your job history, most HR will just confirm you worked there with little to no comment. If you want a past employer to go in depth on your job performance, get a letter of reference from them.
@John Milton no we have automated system that the employee has to authorize via self service request. You get a key and give to employers and the can go to website gives start stop $$ then expires
@John Milton wrong HR policy is to confirm employment. Performance references or suitability can be confirmed by having your manager willing to be a favorable reference. HR rarely knows anything about your actual work or strengths.
I'm a headhunter. Listen to Lou: he's absolutely right - it's good advice.
I keep almost zero personal property in my work area.
So when I get tired of the current lies, I just go to break politely and never come back.
It sounds like you've had some tough experiences at past jobs that taught you to stay cautious. It's understandable that you prioritize your well-being and be ready to move on when the situation isn't right.
Same here. Even before hotel desking I didn't have anything in/on my desk I couldn't walk away from.
When I prepared to quit a horrible job with a revolving door of incompetent supervisors and backstabbing coworkers, I slowly removed my personal posessions over the course of a month before even giving my notice.
Just remember, HR is not your friend.
Really? So the time a co-worker was being treated for cancer and used up all her PTO, and HR allowed me and other employees to donate our vacation days to her, HR was being the enemy? Ummm, yeah...I don’t agree with you. YOU are HR. It’s the employees who build the culture. The HR department is a reflection of...yourself.
Ahem. I have worked in HR and it is absolutely your one and only friend when you suffer from an injury on the job, need some help with work/life balance, or must report illegal activities witnessed on the job.
We know.
@@georginatoland > Ahem. I have worked in HR and it is absolutely your one and only friend when you suffer from an injury on the job, need some help with work/life balance, or must report illegal activities witnessed on the job.
Bull. People of faith will be fired at the drop of a hat for voicing opposition the pro-homosexual agenda of the company. HR will be the jack booted thugs that make it happen.
I left my former employer after 38 years. My exit interview consisted mostly of them going over the company issued equipment that I was turning in. Of course, the fact that I had maxed out my pension and that staying even a few days longer would cost me multiple six-figures, well, they knew why I was I leaving. I have to say the last year there i felt I was walking on egg shells and just wanted to survive that last year without incident. But, I made it. The stress relief was incredible.
@TrueKen I was actually in a program that was designed to encourage experienced people to stay on. But, the program had a limit of 8 years. If I stayed beyond that I would lose a boat load of money. And the way the system was structured, it was revenue neutral to the employer and the pension fund.
@TrueKen Well, while I haven't gone back to work, things haven't gone as planned and I considered it. I even sent out a few applications. You see, about the time I retired, my wife got laid off from her job due to the position being eliminated. Does that sound familiar from other Over50TV vids? I had planned to go on her Med Insurance. Instead I ending up spending $18K per year for COBRA. BUT, I won't be going back to my former employer.
pensions don't exist for anyone under 50
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@@dungeonmaster6292 There are lots of major employers who still have pensions. Mostly, those that are union jobs. Also, lots of government jobs, police/fire/ems, have pensions. Interestingly, the job I retired from had a decent (not great) pension but I was not covered by Social Security or Medicare so I don't get either of those. Well, do get Medicare, but I have to pay for it about $400/month.
A short and sweet exit interview: Sorry, I enjoyed working here
so much, I can't stand it any longer.
Good one!
Ha ha ha, perfect!
LOL!
Weird. My results to do the exit interview worked very much to my advantage.
A few years ago when the company I worked for was about to start layoffs, I asked the director if he would put me at the top of the list, because unlike a number of my younger colleagues had home mortgages, kids, car notes, and little to no savings. I lived in an apartment, all my vehicles paid for, kids grown up and moved out and I had a nice savings. Anyhow, sure enough, a couple of weeks later, HR calls me in and lays me off, and with much confusion in his eyes, I reach over with a big smile, shook his hand and said, "Thank you so very much, this is AWESOME!". While he was still baffled at my response to getting laid off, he goes into the details and ultimately closes with a large severance. Once the formalities were done, I mentioned I happened to be working on a large project for the company, and what were they going to do now? HR guy said probably hire contractors. I mentioned I was the only one in the company that had all the certifications and licenses to work on the job, and what a pain it was going to be for him to find people with those kinds of qualifications. I then asked would the company possibly be interested in hiring me as a contractor, and he said yes, so they hired me as a contractor, and I went back to work doing exactly the same thing the next day. But ultimately, the company was doomed due to poor management and I left 6 months later for a major sweetheart job with the time my negotiations bought during that exit interview. The lesson here is to NEVER be the last rat off a sinking ship, be the first one. Sorry my story didn't really fit the narrative of the video, but that is how that exit interview went. And that director who laid me off, after he and I had taken different paths and a couple of companies later, we are still working together today.
Wow! I loved this comment. Talk about a happy ending. Thanks for sharing!
Very true. Years and years ago, I was the first person laid off from a company that was going under. I was the only one that got two weeks severance. By the time they got to everybody else there is no money left.
I also went through a mass layoff process. My direct manager ( who did not make the decision to let me go, it came from above) was impressed with my positive attitude during this unexpected meeting letting me go and my severance rights and benefits and two days later, I was offered a parallel position in another department. The best advice in this clip is to simply not burn bridges. My manager did not have to but he felt the need to ask around if anything was open despite that layoff period.
You had exceptional circumstances there, I don't think that is enough to provide a broad lesson in wanting to be the first off the ship.
@@latsnojokelee6434 The employer could afford to pay only 2 weeks of severance of 1 person? Wow.
Entire video happens in this quote, "There's no benefit to you to do an exit interview." Priceless for any age group.
I never ever tell my current employer where I am going. It's none of their business
My last employer I never told them where I was going. I believe that may be the reason I will be looking for a new job
I'm working at "Nonya. As in "Nonya Business!""
I lie to them. Tell them I am going to another industry. I am actually going to a direct competitor.
Ultimately, never burn your bridges, however you feel. Twice I have returned to a company I previously left, and there is every possibility you will cross paths again with a previous hiring manager elsewhere. Most importantly, leave with your head high and with a clear conscience.
I went on to a new job that requires periodic background checks for security clearances. They have contacted former managers a few times. Although, I was laid off from my previous job, I kept a positive attitude and it definitely paid off.
Exactly. There is no way burning bridges helps. I've returned to companies. Former bosses have been my employees and vice versa. Unless you are changing industries you'll probably see the same people. As much as people change jobs these days, you never know.
I have been with the same company for 30 years. Except for the 2 times I quit. Once for 2 years and once for 3. They kept offering me more than I could say no to. I can retire in 2 years and I will burn bridges this time so I don't get sucked back in again.
You will trade positions with your supervisors several times before it’s all over with
I always say once you learn how to build bridges it's much easier to BURN A FEW.!
After years of dealing with bad HR reps I was so happy when they shut the HR office down and now HR is online with remote reps instant karma for being useless
Actually Instant Dharma which is in one's present life. Karma pertains to one's next life.
Don’t so wish we would do this!
Just found your channel and this 58 year-old thinks I need you in my life. And I appreciate the comment section. I work with all young people and it's nice to have people in the same age group to relate to and draw support from.
I'm glad you found my channel. I produce content every week so there is always a good selection of new videos. Thank you!
Best advice I got was “tell them that you are going to follow the Grateful Dead for a year “ 😊
LOL!
I loved the Grateful Dead, but I'd rather follow Santana (If they still toured). Thanks for watching my video!
Perfect!
Dont tell anyone anything. Ever.
I left a resort security post, 🏕 campgrounds, RV, lodges summer 2020. I was not employed long but I did quit & later sent a detailed email to the corporate ethics office. I did it mainly to let them see how the security staff is really run & the serious flaws that need corrected.
And don't ever "burn your bridges". A few times in future interviews, I had to provide references from former supervisors.
Google knows more about each of us than we know about ourselves.
@@DavidLLambertmobile If you think they gave a damn...think again.
@@Random-rt5ec *Shhhh! We know you had a blueberry muffin for breakfast and you yanked it in the shower this morning. And that's just for starters.
Young folks - It's really important that you establish yourself professionally at an early age so that you don't have to be working for other people by the time you hit your fifties. Stay out of debt and invest so that when you're older you can have some peace of mind.
I don't have to be working for other people (I don't have to be working at all). I was out of debt in my 20s. But working for an existing organisation is easier than running my own company. So yes to giving yourself options, but there is no need to specifically avoid working for other people. Just avoid doing jobs you don't like.
Owning your own business is the best way to earn a living. Hopefully Biden/Harris won't destroy small business or make it impossible to start one.😕
@@mamachicken4602 I admire your dedication, but some of us cannot stomach the risk of going out on our own, and sometimes over 50 you may not want that instability, or having to 're-invent' yourself.
I've never been in debt but have never had enough money to invest, either. Now in my early 40s with a young family and cannot get a loan. Have always worked hard but nothing to show for it. (Materially , that is. I have a lovely healthy family.)
@@YukinagaFinn One thing you can do. Invest your time and energy into your kids. They are your best investment. Raise them right and it won't matter that you don't have an inheritance for them. They will get along well in the world if you raise them right.
This is great advice. I also recommend, from personal experience, that if you are interviewing for a new job that you NOT say anything to the prospective employer that even remotely could be interpreted as a criticism of your prior or current employer. I learned this lesson the hard way and regret it because in retrospect I think the prospective employers may have been saying to themselves, "Would he say the same thing about us?" As a result, I didn't get the new job that should have been a slam dunk for me. Sometimes less is more and the less you say about a prior employer the better. Learn from my mistake and keep your mouth shut.
If they don't want to take me in my full forthrightness, then I don't want to work there. I'm not into censoring what I say or being polite about companies that don't deserve it. If they don't like that, then fine. So far I've found being direct with people has stood me in good stead.
@@Wookey. Direct is fine, but be careful it doesn't SOUND negative......best way is to practice speaking your answers out-loud, then being really honest about how those answers might sound.
Interviewing 101: never say anything negative about a former manager
> I also recommend, from personal experience, that if you are interviewing for a new job that you NOT say anything to the prospective employer that even remotely could be interpreted as a criticism of your prior or current employer.
Good advise. In a phone interview, I was much too chatty. Was asked why I'd waited before looking for a new opportunity. Strike two. Strike one was the interviewer failing to call me at the appointed time, not leaving a message, and calling me the next day. Strike three was another HR rep telling me there was another open house hiring event and offering to let one of the managers know I was coming in. This, after sitting through about 4 hours of job fair, in person interview that day, and two phone interviews after that. This clueless HR drone was basically offering me a chance to go back to the end of the line.
I quit a company about 8 years ago and they insisted on the exit interview. Scheduled it on my last day. I went to it, being the first time I've ever done an exit interview. I was given a questionnaire prior to the interview about how pay and compensation should have been improved. So I thought that was the interview. I sat down in the HR department (the largest single department at that company) and she was only asking me questions about diversity. Did I feel there was enough people of color being hired on, did I feel that there was enough people of color in management. I finally had enough of these questions and said "Look, I honestly don't care about the gender, sexual orientation or skin color of those I work with and for. I only care that the person who I report to was hired because that person was the best candidate for the job and not hired because of their skin color, sexual orientation or gender." She looked at me and said "I am glad this is your last day. We don't tolerate racists." Yep, never going back to that company. Never even shopping there again (this was their corporate office that I was working in).
that’s typical! woke freaks labeling and totally missing the point 😂😂😂
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The world is really upside down rn
The problem is that the big corporations are going this direction.
And thus a lawsuit was born.
Just don’t tell everyone especially HR. Just leave. HR is the worst.
My Exit interview went like this:
HR: You leaving?
ME: Yep.
Also you-
You: (fart)
Haha, pretty much.
I used my supervisor's comment back at him "Things change!" I tried the day before to resolve an issue and it's what I got, sooo I used it the next day
I left a company after working for them three years of loyal service to them! I had been hired through a temp agency and worked my way into a full time position with them! When I asked for a raise the answer I got was "You could be replaced!" basically telling me "Shut up and do your job" which at that point I was doing the work of my one supervisor and two of the engineers who worked in my department, yet I was paid less then most of the people I worked with, even people who'd been there far less time then I had too!!
So one morning as I got ready for work I decided "Why bother?" and normally I (seldom if ever) called in....so that morning I didn't bother calling in to ask for a day off! It was THEN I just stopped going to work!! I spent the day, all day, relaxing, and the next morning when I again did NOT go to work and didn't call in either again, the phone started ringing off the hook around 10 A.M.!!! The head of HR asked me if I was going to return to work! I told him "NO" and further explained I had "no incentive to return". He offered me a "position change" but no raise and I told him politely "Thanks but NO!" and that was the end of that call!! And hour later my former boss called begging me to come back to work and I told him I couldn't!! The job certainly wasn't worth the $5 a hour pay I was earning then the nearly 30 mile drive to get there offered me nothing as well!!
@@gregbenwell6173 You'd think they would have offered you a lot more money to continue! You did the right thing for sure.
In my experience, HR often comes on in a very friendly manner as if they are a sympathetic friend when in reality they are there to protect the interests of the company first and foremost. Forgetting this reality can entice you to drop your guard which I happen to believe is often their true intent. I've seen it happen to coworkers who suddenly find their motivations and actions being called into question when the tables suddenly turn and end up regretting their mistake. The less said the better.
"HR often comes on in a very friendly manner as if they are a sympathetic friend when in reality they are there to protect the interests of the company first and foremost" do you see that anywhere else in other parts of society?
HR is totally useless and it’s not a real job. What skills do they really have?
@@jdsartre9520 Don't talk to the police. The police tell their own officers to lawyer up first.
Good advice. When you find yourself "suddenly incompetent," you will find it hard to stay calm, talking to people who have been tasked to get rid of you. It's just a formality on their part and a complete waste of time on your part.
My industrial psychology class recommended sending out questionnaires to former employees some months AFTER they leave. Once they are secure in a new job, they will give you more useful feedback.
@@nghtwtchmn129 I doubt my place would want my feedback :) I left and refused an Exit interview, people were leaving in droves due to the new managements policies, I doubt they wanted to change. Covid finished the company off... Lucky escape.
The exit interview is an event which requires a similar amount of preparation equal to going into a courtroom, whether they're getting rid of you on account of age, been fired or handed in your resignation. The important thing is that you must remain at all times in the driving 💺 seat controlling the interview, not the HR person facing you as you may be negotiating the best leaving package 📦 from that company and it is important to never berate the company or any of their employees, even in jest and to impress upon the interviewer the company's good will making it known that they treat their personnel right even though you know that is not the case.
If you're facing a messy termination, it is important not to mention anything about lawyers. That comes afterwards.
Part of their package is a good reference which is classed as a legal document in some countries and never reveal your plans apart from taking a well deserved holiday.
I have actually been fired and entered a long illustrious career afterwards which I would expect pisses off the company that sent you out the door?.
I gave one young fella. Thousand yard stare like Mr can you hear me and I kept looking at him he gave up and walked out of the interview
At my last job I got suspended for 3 days because I had my hair cut too short. I told the boss it would take longer than 3 days for it to grow back. While I was gone those 3 days, I went to the national corporate office about what happened. I went back to work after the suspension and HR presented me with a check for those 3 days. Oh, I was planning on a new multiple sclerosis treatment that was a form of chemo. That is why I had my hair buzzed.
instead of an exit interview i walk around drinking coffee and spreading hate, discontent and outright lies to everyone i see during my final 2 weeks.
Would be better to spend those weeks planning your future.
As the saying goes, "Discretion is the greater part of valor."
When you get down to it, it's none of their business why I'm leaving, and like he says, if they had any concern at all during your employment, there wouldn't be any need for it!
Exactly - if they thought anything of you at all, they'd at least make an effort to find out what pissed you off so much that you wanted to leave, and try to at least get you to reconsider.
If they're not doing that, they're not worth it, simple as that !
My last job was an “at will” assignment and when it abruptly ended with 2 days notice the company HR “ reminded” me 2 hours before the COB on the last day that I had not submitted my last self-evaluation ( which I had ). Knowing that my company email was soon to be disabled, I elected to ignore their request.
If your exiting employer asks you where you are going, tell them something obscure like “ I’m thinking about getting a hot dog cart and finding a good corner. That will be the LAST time they ask you that question.
@Alan Smithee Hmmm... donuts! - Homer Simpson! LOL!
haha
No company that requires self evaluations is worth working for.
The company shouldn't even know you are leaving until your chair is empty.
Difficult to do with a three month notice period
Yep.
Is it tho? Isn't absenteeism considered job abandonment after a shorter than 3 month period?
@@nicky5185 If they can can you without notice, you can walk without notice. End of story.
Reminds me of the dictum I was told by a friend while I was state worker ,"If you find a problem in a bureaucracy, then you are the problem. "
This is very true.
I don't understand
@@sufisage7597 it's like the expression about "shooting the messenger"
@@latetotheparty3070 gotcha, thanks!
Interesting!
Good information, but you can drop "When You Are Over 50" from the title. Everything in here applies to leaving a job at the age of 30.
I was just thinking that. But then I realized, of the times that I've voluntarily left a job, I've never been asked to do an exit interview. They already knew I was moving onto other things in my career. Or back in my college days, I was going back to school. So maybe exit interviews are just more common when you're over 50? Or for employees who have been at a company for a really long time? I'm turning 50 later this year, so that's why I watched the video.
This good advice for anyone of any age when they leave a company.
I never did an exit interview for the major corporation I worked for. I had nothing good to say and I was leaving to be self employed. They didn't want me to leave, so I politely declined without any explanation.
I think he is exactly correct. I'm over 50, just gave my 2-weeks notice today, and my letter of resignation was very short, very complimentary, and truly tells them everything that they need to know. I do not expect a request for an exit interview. Thanks for this very informative video.
I think you handled your exit perfectly. I am glad you enjoyed the video.
Good point about not telling co-workers about your new job if you have one lined up. I’ve not considered the risk of someone with a grudge contacting my new employer to bad mouth me.
Yes, please consider the risk. I've seen it happen more than once. Thanks for watching my video.
I retired as a technician for a telecom company. I gave my supervisor 5 days notice and I was being generous. I could've gave them just one day's notice. I didn't even attend my retirement party. Too many slackers in attendance, including supervisors.
When I turned in my company laptop, they asked for my password. I told them it was "I hate this job".
That's cold you didn't attend your own party 🤣😂🤣
@@richardrizzo7360 I'm sure they had a great time commenting on how great they were in their own mind.
“could’ve given”
Last time I turned in a company laptop I wiped it first. It wouldn't even boot, much less ask for a password. No hardware damage, just securely wiped the disk.
@@Sylvan_dBwhy?
Sometimes bridges NEED to be burnt. In my 40 plus year employment career I have burnt two bridges.
Things happen and they were as glad to see me go as I was to leave.
If necessary to burn a bridge, make sure they remember the fire.
Easy now pyro.
May the bridges you burn light the path to your future.
I agree 💯
Thing is you're leaving, assuming for good reason, why would you ever go back? Use other references. I never use present work references because I don't want to tip off anyone at my current workplace that I am even searching for a new employer. Even thinking about returning can hold you back from fully committing to a new path, job etc. Do you want to work for a company that has given you a job offer but reminds it due to information that could easily be fabricated anyway??
They don't care.
I totally agree with you, nothing good will ever come out of an exit interview for you! When they asked me (they actually told me it was required) I reluctantly agreed & then made myself very scarce for the rest of my 3 weeks notice, which was very easy as we were flat out at the time & my schedule had me out on the road before the office staff arrived & back after they had gone home! HR department didn’t realise until after I had left & still wanted it done after I was working at my new employment! I very politely told them I was very busy settling into my new role & was no longer available!
There was this one time I was being let go. They started off telling me that I was getting a month Severance and my benefits would be covered for almost two. As they were talking I was having this conversation with myself in my head. I kept telling myself don't say a word - you can only hurt yourself.
This was hard especially when I was told that I was a good accountant but that there wasn't a spot for me. Meanwhile three weeks earlier they brought someone on for a part-time position that didn't exist before.
Wow! Sorry to hear that. I hope you were able to bounce back better than ever!
I agree
Work is there to pay the mortgage - nothing more. HR is there to stop your employer getting sued. The only person who cares about your career is you. Remember that, and you’ll be fine!
Bottom line is older workers must not rely on anyone else.
Good advice, bosses and HR never act on “the truth” in a meaningful way.
Exit interviews are a great way to leave doors opened. You have to go into them thinking how it can benefit you; never say anything negative. Think of it as a game of wits. Also, most believe that the exit interview is only with H.R., it isn't. It starts when you give notice. When management wants to take you out to a fair well lunch, it's most often a way to lower your guard in the hopes to get information. You may also see them change their attitude towards you and appear friendlier and more approachable. They'll make comments like, "Guess you must me feeling great to finally be leaving this dump." Always answer positive towards the company and your colleagues. The battle of wits ends when you're at your new job not when you exit the building.
"I'll let HR know that you think this great company is a dump".
@@kekelaward it's important specially if you signed NDAs or NCCs. Some exit interviews want to know if you're going to the competition and how to keep from paying you owed bonuses, accumulated leave, 401K matches or other incentives. They're not really looking for your feedback to improve employee retention. They do that by providing "anonymous" company mandated training to their employees.
A game of wits... to the death! - The Princess Bride
*I walked into HR for the exit interview...I took the paperwork, gave them short basic answers, and walked out in under 10 minutes.*
I worked for a company who required an exit interview in order to get your bonus payout. I was told (by someone outside the company) that the reason they require the interview, is to get on paper that there was nothing you could come back to them on with a lawsuit. They ask specific questions about whether you were sexually harassed, discriminated against, treated unfairly, in a toxic work environment, etc. They document all that as a no, so you can't come back later saying it happened.
I've had a few similar comments on this video. If you experienced any of the treatment you outline I'd think about getting legal advice. Either way, tread carefully.
I always thought that an exit interview was to confirm that all the obligations were met - you got your last paycheck, your PTO was paid off, equipment and keys returned, you know when your healthcare stops and what will happen to your 401K, etc. Now I know :)
Yep, there is often more to an exit interview than tidying up loose ends. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment.
@@jkulikova I always took their laptop hostage...😉
No, actually you were 100% correct. This doofus with a camera thinks he understands things but he's just a doofus with a camera.
I never tell anyone when I give notice..I hate long goodbyes.
So do I.
.Nothing should be put in your personal file that you have not seen and signed by you. Exit interviews are done by HR what else do I need to say. Never tell them where you are going, do not give them a head start on a IP or non-compete.
Dont update linked In profile right away either.
I wish I had seen this 25 years ago! I left 2 straight jobs and didn't hold anything back telling them why.
100 spot on, Lou. Only info I provided in my exit interview was to document that I offered to stay on via contract to maintain some stability for the organization, which was declined. Documented that so that anyone interested would know that I offered to stay so no one would blame me when the place went to hell, which it did.
Smart man! I'm glad you put it in writing. Too bad they didn't know a good thing when they had one. Thanks for watching my video.
Oh I like that. My one employer lost $30 million when I left. Had I thought of that I would have put that in.
In my twenties I've left a company that was going downhill and they did exactly that. They retaliated and called the HR of the company I went to. Never a good idea to talk to them about your plans. Or about the past. HR are friendly. But they're not your friend
Thank you for sharing. I hope other viewers see and learn from your comment. Thank you for watching my video.
My last exit interview was about 30 years ago.
Their first question was how much more money I will get in my next job.
My response was, "I will get less money than what I was earning here."
I got up and walked out, as the HR drone sat there with a stunned look on his face.
that's a take this job and shove it' moment...lol
@Lone Ranger probably living in mommy's basement just to pay the electric bill
What would make HR feel like they have a right to know what your next salary would be?
Unless they were going to try and give you a raise to get you to stay.
Been there done that
@Lone Ranger It was 30 years ago.., lol
Remember word goes around in the sector you are in and HR people talk to each other, especially when they requesting a reference from your last employer. Do not trust HR with any insights or hints about your true reasons to leave, remember word spreads.
Good advice
No company is perfect. Every company has good and bad people.
When I remember the past I prefer to think about the reasons why I feel gratitude, because there are always such reasons. The only feedback that I would have to give them would be about spreading situations that generate gratitude in people.
Thinking is difficult, this is why people judge.
I try to be the best version of myself, not allowing the dark side to go in, and that will eventually attract good people. It is better to stay close to good people and away and stay away from bad people. Good people are not those who say good things, they are those who DO good things.
I enjoyed reading your comment. Good lessons can be taken from your words. It is wise to make an effort to stay close to good people and away from bad people . Thank you.
I'll turn 50 in the next couple of weeks, looks like this will be my favorite channel. Thanks for the content!
Yes, please tune into this channel. P.s. I hope you have a great birthday!
They absolutely do tell prospective future employers things they shouldn't. I've heard it happen with my own ears. I never trust people who tell me things are confidential or kept private.
This happened to a friend at a law office (the irony) who was fired because of vaxcine mandates. They told the future would be employer this information and she missed out on that job as well. She finally landed a job better than the one that fired her.
Nothing good ever came from an exit interview - just busy body HR manager justifying their job
HR depts use exit interviews as a box ticking exercise.
Yep!
Very few companies will even want you to give an exit interview! They do not want to hear the real truth and do not want to disturb the status quo.
@mgbs- They already know what the problems are and have no plans to change.
Most companies are terrified of exit interviews. They feel they have no control over you at that point and that is threatening to them. I never had one. If I was asked, I would turn it down. It can only benefit the company. After being treated poorly, I am not interested in helping the company.
But a smart company would care. It would be foolish for a company not to know everything that you were thinking, especially if you volunteer the information ingenuously in some unguarded moment. This is all for their advantage not yours, knowledge is power.
I'm retired now, but I never burned any bridges. As you said, there are no upsides. I think this advice also applies to people under 50.
Yes, this advice applies to all workers but I also think older workers should be extra wary about participating in an exit interview. I say this because the potential fallout could impact older workers more severely than it would impact a younger person given older workers employment options grow increasingly limited over time due to ageism.
More often then not, the employer is the one that has burned the bridges.
Lou, Great video I fully agree. I have worked for 10 organizations in the last 40 years, and there is no upside. The only way I would blasts them if I hit the lottery big enough, then I would give them an interview with subpoenas for HR lawsuits :) Also, I have not told an employer where I was going in over 30 years. I saw a co-worked get bad burned by doing that. No Upside.
Management can talk to an employee whenever they choose. That's the time to solicit feedback and work to make the workplace a better place for all.
"Be discreet about your commercial dealings." - Book of Five Rings
Tell them as little as possible. It's none of their business anyway.
In a similar manner, watch out for company surveys.
I never did them. I wasn't going to get booted but I can't lie either. No upside to any of that.
@@shawnbruce6934 Company can't improve if everyone is afraid of telling the truth. You can be scared, I'll be the one to say something.
I have an exit interview when I left my company. I said a lot of polite and many direct things, and I meant every word I said. I hope everything was written in my file, because it will prove prophetic one day. I walked out feeling great, and still feel great today.
Same here
And had the satisfaction of turning down the inevitable minor promotion they had denied me for years
Someone once suggested to me, if you didn't say it before you resigned, don't say it afterwards.
That someone gave you very good advice. I agree 100%. Thank you for the comment and thanks for watching my video.
I gave an exit interview once.... They talked me into staying, huge raise, less hours, a small piece of the company and first right of refusal when/if the owner decides to sell... I still work there 8 years later.
This definitely an exception, not the rule. But congrats either way
Good to hear there are exceptions
Good advice, and I've used it at all 10 full-time jobs I've resigned from. If they insist, just go in and constantly say 'Decline to state' to all questions they ask. First company I worked at laid everyone off suddenly (moving production to S.E. Asia, mgmt. consolidated in Georgia offices), and they wanted to do exit interviews - REALLY?!?!? At the second company I was 9 months out from finishing a mech engineering degree and kept applying to get one of the many engineering jobs they were always recruiting for, but was always turned down since I was still in school, even when I was two months away from graduating and even though they recruited seniors at local colleges!. I got a job with another company in a related field, resigned, and my former employer wanted to know why I was leaving - another "REALLY?!?!?' moment.
If the job is not a bargain for you and the employer, leave. Also go interview every few years to obtain leverage for negotiating for
your market value. 3% per year is NOT a raise. I managed 5% year over year so that i doubled THE 4% year over year inflation number
compound interest works
@@jamesmorton7881 Yeah inflation is over 3% no raise at all.
I'm former HR and our corporate attorney recommended that we not offer anything other than confirm dates of employment and the position the person held - period. We couldn't say anything at all other than that including whether they quit, were fired....nothing else, not a thing... no matter what they asked, we were only allowed to state that it was corporate policy to provide only that information for any and all employment references or verifications. No exceptions.
I have a client that is a long-time HR consultant.
What you stated is, in fact, gospel. At least in the US.
Good advice! What if the job title was incorrect? Promotions don't always make it into the personal file when an HR department is overwhelmed. Can trigger an unwanted or embarrassing discussion trying to set the record straight, when instead each side intended to keep the meeting short. Happens even in multi-$BN revenue companies
I remember a long time ago the company I was working for was threatening to hold my last paycheck unless I did an exit interview. I told them go ahead and try. When they knew I was calling their bluff they gave me my check but they took their time mailing it.
I know someone who had a terrible experience - they gave their notice to take up a fantastic opportunity at a start up company but made the mistake of telling their old boss where they were going - turns out the two companies had the same investor. The old boss contacted the investment company saying this start-up was poaching staff. The start-up were told if they took that individual their funding would be pulled! So the job offer was rescinded. The individual was given a salary hike in his same job the investor saying if he’s that valuable that needs to be reflected in his salary to avoid any future temptation. Left a soured relationship and the individual left the company a few years later anyway to take career break.
It’s good to talk but sometimes and for somethings it’s good to be discreet.
Thank you for sharing that experience. It underscores the importance of adopting a policy of avoiding exit interviews.
Absolutely spot on Every time HR has ever asked to interview me it's been a trap. Their job is to maintain the status quo. Their job is looking out for #1 and your job is to look out for #1. Other than what is necessary, they should know as little about you as possible.
Great advice! Especially about the Headhunter advising that the new hire gets settled in first.
Having been a recruiter in Japan since the '80s I can say that your advice is spot-on. The emotional side of things is more of what I see than the risk of information leaks (solid points still). The never say where your going and 'I'll contact you when I'm settled for heart-to-heart is 100% correct'.
Recruiting in Japan sounds like an interesting career. Thank you for watching!
“Where you’re going”
You say “I respectfully decline, thank you”.
I really appreciate how quickly you get to the points and your rationale. You don't waste our time.😂😂😂
You have to set the table before you sit down to eat. Thanks for watching my video.
@@Over50tvdefinitely appreciated!!
I refused at my last job, because I decided months before quitting that I was not going to tell them anything that might help them. Not that they would listen anyway.
You're correct. There is no upside for you. At the very least, it is a complete waste of your time.
Yep, there is no upside. Thank you for watching my video.
The HR dept is your enemy, not friend. When I left corporate America job, when asked at the interview I knew not to tell the truth. And everything is in writing. I had to think twice about what to write. I just wrote - I had “to attend to an elderly parent”. That was it. The exit interview covers a lot of things. So, I happened to not work any longer but most would at my age. Never burn a possible bridge. I overheard a well respected up and comer also my age 55 leaving, being asked repeatedly why? by his VP, he just kept saying, while smiling, he planned it from a long time ago. Both him and I left not under good circumstances. He went to another company.
Sounds like you handled it perfectly!
@@Over50tv I tell you, had to think fast to come up with something, did have an elderly parent but my Brother was attending to her. I also was asked to do a phone in survey by some consulting company. You may have not of heard this before. It was supposed to be a call in question and answer type of interview. I knew it could be no good, so I called and left them a voice message - with a faked a speaking disorder claimed to have developed recently - I did a breaking/repeating stuttering voice. I bet I sounded bad and convincing. Almost broke out laughing though. They called back right away and said I didn’t have to do it.
What an excellent video. Thank you Lou. Emotion and pent up frustration often gets the best of people when they're put in that sort of situation. It's a slippery slope once you start detailing the concerns you had in a job and as others have pointed out, even if you're trying to "help" it's not going to assist in the way you'd hope.
I am glad you enjoyed the video. I think many people, including myself, learned some of this stuff the hard way. Thank you for the comment.
They're leaving themselves open for a lawsuit if they give you a bad reference. Most companies won't do it.
Exactly! If they do, immediately contact the EEOC and get a lawyer.
I really respect your courage and positivity to broadcasting this channel, to help the seniors fighting and improving their life, I am soon 50 and I am convinced that I need to build up my own business. But you know, the most painful part for me personally is to acknowledge my mistakes in my life so far, not only at my jobs and also how I manage my personal financial situation. Here is my lesson I learned: start to face myself without any excuses and find the best quality of myself, and make it to the utmost power to engine my life. Thank you for your channel!
Hello Pang Lila! Thank you for the kind comment. I think the lessons you mention you learned are good lessons we should all follow. I encourage you to build up your own business. Another thing you may want to consider is to work with a business or career coach. Thank you for the comment.
Great point. I recently left a company and thought I would do an exit interview to help them improve. I came to my senses and realized the interview was to protect them rather than me. When I saw the Outlook invitation there was 2 people from HR. I canceled the interview.