She said that 3 other players at the table were angry with her. Why would they be angry with her if she did nothing wrong? I'd like to hear from any of those others at the table.
I had over 20 percent of the chips on the table in the first two hours. I have nothing to be angry about. I am the chip leader. The 3 players who complained about me jumped on bandwagon with the dealer had lost chips to me.
So I was there! Like... literally there. I rebought in this tourney and my seat was at her table like 5-10 minutes after she got booted. The consensus at the table was that they lost nearly an HOUR of playtime due to her antics slowing down the game (taking forever during her turn, etc.). Besides continually causing a scene/creating bad vibes, this is another reason to be pretty upset with her.
I doubt they are mad she won. Especially as a small stakes player. "I heard of you" probably implies other dealers/staff gossiped about her as a complainer, troublemaker, etc. even if she thinks she never did anything before. Right or wrong if people have a preconceived idea about someone any slightest misstep or question or whatever will lead to confrontation.
I was chip leader with over 20% of the chips in the first two hours. I have nothing to be angry about. Players who lost chips to me were angry. They initiated the aggression against me. I didn't respond until they turned words into actions and said they were throwing me out of the tournament.
I used to think gals/people like this were nuts. I don’t anymore. I witnessed a player get legitimately confused in a $1500 event last week. He was older. He didn’t hear the action. And the dealer was NOT clear. It was innocent. Were they super bright, or a pro? No. But the dealer went off on him. Luckily, me and another player calmed the dealer down. But it’s was so odd. Shocking, actually.
Yep. And what happens when people continued to gaslight you ? Sometimes you snap. I'd flip out too if the wsop was kicking me out and confiscating my $1,000+ buy in.
What we need is is the dealer and at least one of the other players to give us their side to the story and then we can make a final determination if she's full of it.
Unfortunately, I have had men berate me, call me names and attack my play many many times. I’ve been playing over 30 years live poker and they are not kind to some of us women who they can’t bully. I started using my phone to record incidents without them knowing because they tent to give details differently when the floor / management comes. I then push play and allow them to see for themselves. It’s sad this still goes on…
i would like to congratulate him for having the courage to post this, i was wondering what happened beforehand. i well know that once a dealer hates u for anything that happens in the past theres nothing u can do.
What if Hellmuth had said this or acted this way - his antics (before) were accepted (expected) and men are treated MUCH different when something like this happens. IMO I feel it started with the dealer not answering her question. They should give her buy in back and allow her to play other tournaments.
@@daveb3904 Ok i'm not going to sit here and argue the difference of Phil getting angry and a lady practically screaming bloody murder and disrupting the entire poker room.
Thank you Amir Namatinia for getting the other side of the story!! I bet there are others from that table that could shed some other views as well. That dealer should be checked out and if he had any part of this should be fired.
Define bad beat. She sounds like any other player who thinks they are better than everyone else. A bad beat is at least a full house losing vs something better. And those are rare. Many people think that pushing aces and getting called by KQ and losing is a bad beat. It's not. It happens a lot. It sucks. But it's not a bad beat. I would like to see those 29 hand histories myself
I was chip leader with over 20% of the chips in first two hours. I have nothing to be angry about. The players who lost to me were angry and they jumped on the bandwagon with the dealer to collude against me. Surveillance would tell the truth, but there is not surveillance at the WSOP.
Typical I did nothing wrong, I'm a victim, everyone is out to get me mentality. Reality was, she was out of her freaking mind, huge public disturbance, screaming, crazy over....what? A dealer who supposedly said, I know who you are? A mysterious yellow chip? What a joke. WSOP did the right thing, no sympathy from me lady.
No surveillance at the WSOP to tell you the truth. I had over 20% of the chips in the first two hours. I have nothing to be angry about. 3 players who lost to me were angry and jumped on bandwagon with dealer to collude against me.
Dealers there are the worst. Impossible to find enough dealers that are competent for this many tables going. I went to break last week in a daily and the dealer heard that the big stack is supposed to get all the 100 chips. Came back to no 100 chips or any chips for my 21 $100 chips I had in front of my stack. Swept them all up and put them in front of the chip leader and floor guy paid him for them assuming he’d bought them all. Broken English too so she couldn’t communicate what she did or didn’t do. Crazy stuff and not enough to hold up the tournament and check cameras but BS for sure.
So she wanted to know what the 1k was for...and then? Dealer: that's a pot raise. Her: Fold I understand she wanted to know, but lady, fold the hand and move on. Dealers are on rotation every 30 minutes. Keep quiet and someone else will be here shortly
i will, although im not a lawyer, show to court and the world some of the tricks casinos CAN use if they wanted to setup a deck, or specific hands. Its simple. Patents are the key.
Women cannot be aggressive but it's okay for men? It's hard without seeing her typical table manners but I do wonder if a man had asked the same questions what would have happened?
She demanded an explanation about the propriety of the bet, and complained that the dealer kept talking. If it was a valid bet, she is not entitled to stop the game waiting for an explanation that she found satisfactory. She may have a legitimate gripe about the dealer, but he didn't get her banned.
As another female player, not believing 99% of what she’s saying. Just a lot of circular rambling like she had the J♣️ blocker 😬🤣. And I’ve never seen or known of a dealer that would argue or ‘not stop talking’ for no reason.
Seems like the others at the table refused to answer straightly what's the $1000 for ? Had the dealer at the table had the straight answer as pot limit $1000 was a pot sized bet ! She seems like a victim of whatever the expression is for "they had it in for them" "targeting". Good points by her 👏 sounds like the dealer in question brought to many chips to work. She was a good sport and hopefully the gaming commission will be helpful for the players because without players they won't have paychecks !?! Yeah what's the $1000 for ???????????? Understand and ________________ The casinos don't need winners casinos need the upper hand and the masses to surrender etc. Seems at this rate that Islam is going to reign before long because the world and universe cannot afford such abuse and excess. Copper is the metal of efficiency. We need real copper pennies and silver dollars. Dear go-d help us pare the gaming industry safely
You sound just as crazy as this lady. Do you even understand that in poker casino can care less who wins and who loses? And what does Islam have to do with any of this?
@RomanPer alright so all sorts of people are possibly a bit crazy yet you want to know 🤔 truth be known after more than a variety of experiences which include self exclusions and an unjustified bar from mgm when a comped guest you would have stories and opinions that require beyond normal levels of understanding !?! No Las Vegas isn't a normal place and shouldn't have a say beyond Nevada state lines possibly Clark County lines !?! Stay there and make amends until the silver shines again !?! Crazy dealers and drivers should protest getting worked by jerks !?!
Had they worn contact lenses they would have less problems !?! Dealers and security are known to take advantage of wearers of glasses !?! Yes it's a variety of discrimination !?! Yo jaime G sue those places
Her whole demeanour is suspicious. She probably was going against WSOP rules but WSOP is probably the most WOKE festival to be a part of. WSOP gave back chips to opponent that mucked cards against Daniel Negranu so it is probably not the best place to play if you are going to be slightly off!!
Her story has so much inconsistencies and her theory is because she cashed In the main 2 years ago for a min cash and min cashed a event in 2017 along with 29 bad beats on line that’s why everyone is out to get her? Give me a break lady obv trying to play victim and push the buck no way in hell she is innocent or did nothing wrong. And her theory is so far out there she ruined all her credibility
Her story has so much inconsistencies and her theory is because she cashed In the main 2 years ago for a min cash and min cashed a event in 2017 along with 29 bad beats on line that’s why everyone is out to get her? Give me a break lady obv trying to play victim and push the buck no way in hell she is innocent or did nothing wrong. And her theory is so far out there she ruined all her credibility
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She said that 3 other players at the table were angry with her. Why would they be angry with her if she did nothing wrong? I'd like to hear from any of those others at the table.
Cause she wasn’t playing the hand and waiting
Exactly what I was thinking
I had over 20 percent of the chips on the table in the first two hours. I have nothing to be angry about. I am the chip leader. The 3 players who complained about me jumped on bandwagon with the dealer had lost chips to me.
@@eparalegalsnet Why were 3 players at the table complaining about you?
So I was there! Like... literally there. I rebought in this tourney and my seat was at her table like 5-10 minutes after she got booted. The consensus at the table was that they lost nearly an HOUR of playtime due to her antics slowing down the game (taking forever during her turn, etc.). Besides continually causing a scene/creating bad vibes, this is another reason to be pretty upset with her.
I doubt they are mad she won. Especially as a small stakes player. "I heard of you" probably implies other dealers/staff gossiped about her as a complainer, troublemaker, etc. even if she thinks she never did anything before. Right or wrong if people have a preconceived idea about someone any slightest misstep or question or whatever will lead to confrontation.
I call bs on her if you’ve pissed off the whole table,the dealer, and the floor You are the problem
And she’s calling the gaming commission on her bad beats
Not necessarily, majority doesnt rule, how many said Covid vaccines prevent transmition, millions.
I was chip leader with over 20% of the chips in the first two hours. I have nothing to be angry about. Players who lost chips to me were angry. They initiated the aggression against me. I didn't respond until they turned words into actions and said they were throwing me out of the tournament.
I used to think gals/people like this were nuts. I don’t anymore. I witnessed a player get legitimately confused in a $1500 event last week. He was older. He didn’t hear the action. And the dealer was NOT clear. It was innocent. Were they super bright, or a pro? No. But the dealer went off on him. Luckily, me and another player calmed the dealer down. But it’s was so odd. Shocking, actually.
*edit… she may be nuts. Not my point.
Yep. And what happens when people continued to gaslight you ? Sometimes you snap. I'd flip out too if the wsop was kicking me out and confiscating my $1,000+ buy in.
What we need is is the dealer and at least one of the other players to give us their side to the story and then we can make a final determination if she's full of it.
Unfortunately, I have had men berate me, call me names and attack my play many many times. I’ve been playing over 30 years live poker and they are not kind to some of us women who they can’t bully. I started using my phone to record incidents without them knowing because they tent to give details differently when the floor / management comes. I then push play and allow them to see for themselves. It’s sad this still goes on…
We need surveillance to tell the truth, but they have no surveillance at the WSOP.
i would like to congratulate him for having the courage to post this, i was wondering what happened beforehand. i well know that once a dealer hates u for anything that happens in the past theres nothing u can do.
There are Dealers and Floors that look for fights and she wasnt taking their sh*t. I believe her side of the story.
Me too!
I would not trust this person, ever..............
You could trust surveillance if it was there. But there is no surveillance at the WSOP.
Thanks Doc for giving the opportunity for another side to be heard.
What if Hellmuth had said this or acted this way - his antics (before) were accepted (expected) and men are treated MUCH different when something like this happens. IMO I feel it started with the dealer not answering her question. They should give her buy in back and allow her to play other tournaments.
What are you rambling about? He has never acted like that, she was freaking out.
@@dalton1824Hellmuth freaks out.
@@daveb3904 He has never freaked out like that.
@@dalton1824 Many times he has.
@@daveb3904 Ok i'm not going to sit here and argue the difference of Phil getting angry and a lady practically screaming bloody murder and disrupting the entire poker room.
looked up her hendon mob...we need her back in asap
Thank you Amir Namatinia for getting the other side of the story!! I bet there are others from that table that could shed some other views as well. That dealer should be checked out and if he had any part of this should be fired.
We need surveillance to tell the truth, but they have no surveillance at the WSOP.
@@eparalegalsnet yes and or someone else at the table telling the truth.It's an unfortunate situation.
29 bad beats . I’ve been playing for 40 years full time and in all that time have had maybe 5 or 6 bad beats . So she definitely has a case .
Define bad beat. She sounds like any other player who thinks they are better than everyone else. A bad beat is at least a full house losing vs something better. And those are rare. Many people think that pushing aces and getting called by KQ and losing is a bad beat. It's not. It happens a lot. It sucks. But it's not a bad beat. I would like to see those 29 hand histories myself
Maybe the context is lost on me, but you get one bad beat every eight years, playing full time?
Bad beats on the WSOP app. Means online poker. Every other hand is a bad beat.
her shaking her right leg is an obvious BS tell
Dont they have a ten minute ban before anything else is done
She was screaming like a lunatic, no time out for that.
@@Nikkithedog-t6bthey gave her a one round penalty. That really set her off and then they booted her.
As a former poker dealer the floor will always take the word of the dealer!!
Always
No surveillance at the WSOP to tell the truth. I had over 20% of the chips in the first two hours. I have nothing to be angry about.
I can see the dealer bsing to the floor, at the wsop that can happen. But three players not upset over nothing? I doubt it.
I was chip leader with over 20% of the chips in first two hours. I have nothing to be angry about. The players who lost to me were angry and they jumped on the bandwagon with the dealer to collude against me. Surveillance would tell the truth, but there is not surveillance at the WSOP.
Supposedly, she plays REALLY slow, and is constantly holding up the game. Players call time on her often.
Surveillance would tell the truth, but there is no surveillance at the WSOP.
@@eparalegalsnet Maybe they should have the dealers wear cameras?? Or would that be overstepping the line? 🤔
Maybe, Just Maybe, This Nice Lady was a little too loud. Don't bully grandma! Hellmuth curses and yells! Just saying.
I think this is a Bad Look for the WSOP in general
This is not an interview. You just let her talk. It’s interesting, but I would love to ask her other questions.
Female Phil Helmuth without the bracelets 🤣🤣
So she’s banned, but Martin Kabrhel gets to stay? He’s equally obnoxious.
great point and he is doing it on purpose.
Is this dealer the same AJ that was fired for assaulting Sammy Farha?
If any of this were true, the players would have confirmed this at the table.
No surveillance to tell the truth at the WSOP.
Bs her story isn't lining up with the video
Typical I did nothing wrong, I'm a victim, everyone is out to get me mentality. Reality was, she was out of her freaking mind, huge public disturbance, screaming, crazy over....what? A dealer who supposedly said, I know who you are? A mysterious yellow chip? What a joke. WSOP did the right thing, no sympathy from me lady.
No surveillance at the WSOP to tell you the truth. I had over 20% of the chips in the first two hours. I have nothing to be angry about. 3 players who lost to me were angry and jumped on bandwagon with dealer to collude against me.
Dealers there are the worst. Impossible to find enough dealers that are competent for this many tables going. I went to break last week in a daily and the dealer heard that the big stack is supposed to get all the 100 chips. Came back to no 100 chips or any chips for my 21 $100 chips I had in front of my stack. Swept them all up and put them in front of the chip leader and floor guy paid him for them assuming he’d bought them all. Broken English too so she couldn’t communicate what she did or didn’t do. Crazy stuff and not enough to hold up the tournament and check cameras but BS for sure.
She's suing for the bracelet!
No, her $1,500 buy in that she paid.
So she wanted to know what the 1k was for...and then?
Dealer: that's a pot raise.
Her: Fold
I understand she wanted to know, but lady, fold the hand and move on. Dealers are on rotation every 30 minutes. Keep quiet and someone else will be here shortly
Doesn’t matter she was acting like a lunatic nothing should justify that. U asked a question they didn’t answer that’s the end of it. Just play
i will, although im not a lawyer, show to court and the world some of the tricks casinos CAN use if they wanted to setup a deck, or specific hands. Its simple. Patents are the key.
my favorite part is when she uses "bad beats" to accuse the wsop RNG of being a scam 😂
You are the Roseanne Rosanadana of poker!😂
Verbal tells and body language tells me that she’s down playing the situation to distance herself from her actions
Women cannot be aggressive but it's okay for men? It's hard without seeing her typical table manners but I do wonder if a man had asked the same questions what would have happened?
Totally innocent everyone! nothing to see here... This lady is not crazy.... lol
She demanded an explanation about the propriety of the bet, and complained that the dealer kept talking. If it was a valid bet, she is not entitled to stop the game waiting for an explanation that she found satisfactory. She may have a legitimate gripe about the dealer, but he didn't get her banned.
She sent 29 bad beats online and sent that to the gaming commission . She is crazy .
The most reasonable response is always to stand up and scream at everyone involved. Great for making yourself look like the reasonable one.
As another female player, not believing 99% of what she’s saying. Just a lot of circular rambling like she had the J♣️ blocker 😬🤣. And I’ve never seen or known of a dealer that would argue or ‘not stop talking’ for no reason.
Seems like the others at the table refused to answer straightly what's the $1000 for ? Had the dealer at the table had the straight answer as pot limit $1000 was a pot sized bet ! She seems like a victim of whatever the expression is for "they had it in for them" "targeting". Good points by her 👏 sounds like the dealer in question brought to many chips to work. She was a good sport and hopefully the gaming commission will be helpful for the players because without players they won't have paychecks !?! Yeah what's the $1000 for ???????????? Understand and ________________
The casinos don't need winners casinos need the upper hand and the masses to surrender etc. Seems at this rate that Islam is going to reign before long because the world and universe cannot afford such abuse and excess. Copper is the metal of efficiency. We need real copper pennies and silver dollars. Dear go-d help us pare the gaming industry safely
You sound just as crazy as this lady. Do you even understand that in poker casino can care less who wins and who loses? And what does Islam have to do with any of this?
@RomanPer alright so all sorts of people are possibly a bit crazy yet you want to know 🤔 truth be known after more than a variety of experiences which include self exclusions and an unjustified bar from mgm when a comped guest you would have stories and opinions that require beyond normal levels of understanding !?! No Las Vegas isn't a normal place and shouldn't have a say beyond Nevada state lines possibly Clark County lines !?! Stay there and make amends until the silver shines again !?! Crazy dealers and drivers should protest getting worked by jerks !?!
I don't believe her, there's tonnes of comments from people who've played with her and say she's horrible all the time
doing the lords work 🙏 🙌
Had they worn contact lenses they would have less problems !?! Dealers and security are known to take advantage of wearers of glasses !?! Yes it's a variety of discrimination !?! Yo jaime G sue those places
He was bias before he sat down...😮
So she basically did nothing on her accord. Lol
WSOP Let's well known cheats enter further tournaments but not her.... makes sense....
Her whole demeanour is suspicious. She probably was going against WSOP rules but WSOP is probably the most WOKE festival to be a part of. WSOP gave back chips to opponent that mucked cards against Daniel Negranu so it is probably not the best place to play if you are going to be slightly off!!
I mean all I did was walk in with some money and they tried robbing me !?! I'm going to need someone stronger to help me rob them !?!
Vanessa Selbst has let herself go
Her story has so much inconsistencies and her theory is because she cashed In the main 2 years ago for a min cash and min cashed a event in 2017 along with 29 bad beats on line that’s why everyone is out to get her? Give me a break lady obv trying to play victim and push the buck no way in hell she is innocent or did nothing wrong. And her theory is so far out there she ruined all her credibility
After hearing your side of the story it's easy to tell she is a liar and all drama
Sounds like she doesn't understand poker.
Sounds like she is definitely the problem. Waiting for him to stop talking just play your hand and stop making problems.
She seems like a perennial victim.
A bad beat is if you lose with quads or better doubt she made 29 quads + in one session let alone lose all of them
Bad beat to most is defined as an unlucky situation where one loses after having a high probability of winning.
Look like Gypsy Scammers.
She should be at home bringing the kids up not out playing poker 😅
would YOU want to breed her?
she crayyyyyy crayyyyyy.
what a bore, who cares.
Her story has so much inconsistencies and her theory is because she cashed In the main 2 years ago for a min cash and min cashed a event in 2017 along with 29 bad beats on line that’s why everyone is out to get her? Give me a break lady obv trying to play victim and push the buck no way in hell she is innocent or did nothing wrong. And her theory is so far out there she ruined all her credibility