Wow Bob - that was really interesting, just ended as I was egging on the Torque Tuned! That gizmo is awesome, being able to run-in and test a motor like that! Really enjoyed watching, thumbs up buddy, and on to part 2! :)
@@MarkBryanRC Wow Thanks my Friend, i wished i had 2 torque or sport tuned motors, would be easier to put those in my TXT-2 when i built it, now its gonna be a tear down to swap out the motors. Thanks again Mate!!
I know this is a old upload but I've noticed that you reply to most of your comments and your help would be appreciated. I've just got back into tamiya rc after 25 years and I've just brought a Manta Ray to build. The problem is I'm lost when it comes to the electronics. A ESC is vodoo to me and so are brushless motors. Can I mix and match all the parts I need, for example will any brushed motor work with any ESC, any receiver and any servo or do they have to match? Sorry if I've confused you. 😂
Hey man, thanks for the words... Brother, just about any brushed motor will work with a brushed ESC (and some Brushless ESC's) but keep in mind the motor turns (like the old days). If in doubt, go with a Hobbywing 1060 ESC, 12 trun motor limit is good for just about any motor on the market today... Sadly, all those old good brushed motors are a thing of the past, sure, you can find them but aint cheap if new, plus the magnets may be weak after 20-30 years. As for servos, yes for the most part, if your going high end digital brushless servo, and low end radio gear may not power it. A good but not high end radio system, twin stick or pistol grip will work fine, servos, I like Hitec servos personally, but I also use cheap Amazon servos, 20 to 30 KG ones, not very fast but seem strong (EPA/dual rate on the radio really helps with that). Good luck with the build and don't be afraid to ask anything. Also, there are videos on youtube (Mark Bryan RC) is a good channel and a friend, he just started his build videos on the Manta Ray 2 weeks ago..
@@UncleBobsRC Thank you for the advice and quick response, I'll check out and sub to your friends channel especially if he's doing a Manta Ray build, that will come in handy. 👍
@@n00b247 True but depends on the motor and turns... Some old stock motors (27 Turns) pull more amps than a modified (23 turns and lower) motor, sometimes as much as a 10 to 20 amp difference. It's also different from manufacturer to manufacturer. However, as I said, I'm no expert and run with what I have... Most people just wanna know the motor's rpm.
@@n00b247 Yeah, 550's for sure, I tested a few old Kyosho 550 motors... Make a video with your dyno, I'd love to see the difference of the machines used. Silver can 540's are every where, Tamiya Sport tuned & Torque tuned are also every where as well as the a Tamiya 23 turn BZ motor like I tested.. Keep in mind, that amps drop as the rpm increase... The factory spec sheet with my old Trinity Paradox Pro motor pulls 34 amps @ 3,000 rpm, at @ 27,500 rpm, the amp draw is only 15 amps.. Now again, they probably were using a $3,000 dollar machine vs my $60 ebay machine...
Hey unclebob I owned 3 Clodbuster’s the blue 2013 release, the 2020 black edition, the 2022 gray edition and 1 bullhead the original 1990’s version all in boxed are ready to be built I’m just looking for a motor with a little more rpm not too fast just a bit more speed what are the best motors for the clodbusters? Thanks!.
I would check out Holmes Hobby for motors, As most good brushed motors are a thing of the past. Are you looking for serviceable motors or closed endbell motors, either way, look for any with ZERO timing (serviceable motor need to be set at zero timing and the FRONT motor, the endbell MUST be rotated 180 degrees and set to zero). I Got a Gray Clod also and I will be putting Tamiya Super Sport BZ motors in it, BUT, I need to rework them before they go in. You can toss in some Tamiya Sport Tuned Motors, that will wake it up a bit. I run stock Silver cans in my TXT-2 truck with both 2S & 3S, 3S really wakes the truck up but I only run for a short time, 10 mins at at a time. Love the Bullhead, I'm missing that one!! Thanks for the view comment/question!!!!
I'm just sitting here hoping tamiya will update the motors in their kits some day. Many rtr models can do 20-25mph out the box on a 2s...many tamiya kits cost as much or more and do 20 at most.
Tamiya bases their kits on the Japanese circuit (no lipo packs). Only a few "special" kits came with hotter than stock motors. I wish they would step up their game and put bearings & oil shocks in all kits. Sorry for the late reply, I just now seen it. Thanks for the view and comment!!!!
Being interested in driving on uneven terrain and the marginal difference between the motors top output, I’d rather go with a torque tuned motor, aka BZ.
LOL, almost, no, what went wrong was an alignment problem. i corrected it and it showed its true rpm (at least on my dyno). Thanks for watching Michael, glad you got a laugh out of it.
Wow Bob - that was really interesting, just ended as I was egging on the Torque Tuned! That gizmo is awesome, being able to run-in and test a motor like that! Really enjoyed watching, thumbs up buddy, and on to part 2! :)
Thanks Mark, i dont no why my other comment(s) didnt show up here. This is all new to me.
@@UncleBobsRC No worries, brother, this video is doing pretty well! Good job mate! (I watched it a few times now!) :D
@@MarkBryanRC Wow Thanks my Friend, i wished i had 2 torque or sport tuned motors, would be easier to put those in my TXT-2 when i built it, now its gonna be a tear down to swap out the motors. Thanks again Mate!!
Nice video.
I Have a tamiya sport tuned motor, and its relatively fast.
Smooth, linear acceleration
I know this is a old upload but I've noticed that you reply to most of your comments and your help would be appreciated.
I've just got back into tamiya rc after 25 years and I've just brought a Manta Ray to build.
The problem is I'm lost when it comes to the electronics. A ESC is vodoo to me and so are brushless motors.
Can I mix and match all the parts I need, for example will any brushed motor work with any ESC, any receiver and any servo or do they have to match?
Sorry if I've confused you. 😂
Hey man, thanks for the words... Brother, just about any brushed motor will work with a brushed ESC (and some Brushless ESC's) but keep in mind the motor turns (like the old days). If in doubt, go with a Hobbywing 1060 ESC, 12 trun motor limit is good for just about any motor on the market today... Sadly, all those old good brushed motors are a thing of the past, sure, you can find them but aint cheap if new, plus the magnets may be weak after 20-30 years. As for servos, yes for the most part, if your going high end digital brushless servo, and low end radio gear may not power it. A good but not high end radio system, twin stick or pistol grip will work fine, servos, I like Hitec servos personally, but I also use cheap Amazon servos, 20 to 30 KG ones, not very fast but seem strong (EPA/dual rate on the radio really helps with that). Good luck with the build and don't be afraid to ask anything. Also, there are videos on youtube (Mark Bryan RC) is a good channel and a friend, he just started his build videos on the Manta Ray 2 weeks ago..
@@UncleBobsRC Thank you for the advice and quick response, I'll check out and sub to your friends channel especially if he's doing a Manta Ray build, that will come in handy. 👍
6.3k views wow Bob amazing that's more then 10x all my videos together.
Thanks man, must be something about motor tests.
Wat a great video i will be following ur page. Thank u sir
Thank You, was about my 3rd vid. Thanks for the Follow and the Comment!!
2.45amp at 7.4volts? are you sure thats correct? something is not right.
Nope, never sure of anything but this is what I have so I ran with it...
@@UncleBobsRC amps are kinda low. very very low. i expected more from 540 can.
@@n00b247 True but depends on the motor and turns... Some old stock motors (27 Turns) pull more amps than a modified (23 turns and lower) motor, sometimes as much as a 10 to 20 amp difference. It's also different from manufacturer to manufacturer. However, as I said, I'm no expert and run with what I have... Most people just wanna know the motor's rpm.
@@UncleBobsRC i expected 10amp for a 540. some 550 low turn count can do 20amp.
@@n00b247 Yeah, 550's for sure, I tested a few old Kyosho 550 motors... Make a video with your dyno, I'd love to see the difference of the machines used. Silver can 540's are every where, Tamiya Sport tuned & Torque tuned are also every where as well as the a Tamiya 23 turn BZ motor like I tested.. Keep in mind, that amps drop as the rpm increase... The factory spec sheet with my old Trinity Paradox Pro motor pulls 34 amps @ 3,000 rpm, at @ 27,500 rpm, the amp draw is only 15 amps.. Now again, they probably were using a $3,000 dollar machine vs my $60 ebay machine...
Thank you I'm learning
Thank You!!! I am learning also. This was one of my first videos I did. Thank You for the view & comment!!!!
Hey unclebob I owned 3 Clodbuster’s the blue 2013 release, the 2020 black edition, the 2022 gray edition and 1 bullhead the original 1990’s version all in boxed are ready to be built I’m just looking for a motor with a little more rpm not too fast just a bit more speed what are the best motors for the clodbusters? Thanks!.
I would check out Holmes Hobby for motors, As most good brushed motors are a thing of the past. Are you looking for serviceable motors or closed endbell motors, either way, look for any with ZERO timing (serviceable motor need to be set at zero timing and the FRONT motor, the endbell MUST be rotated 180 degrees and set to zero). I Got a Gray Clod also and I will be putting Tamiya Super Sport BZ motors in it, BUT, I need to rework them before they go in. You can toss in some Tamiya Sport Tuned Motors, that will wake it up a bit. I run stock Silver cans in my TXT-2 truck with both 2S & 3S, 3S really wakes the truck up but I only run for a short time, 10 mins at at a time. Love the Bullhead, I'm missing that one!! Thanks for the view comment/question!!!!
I'm just sitting here hoping tamiya will update the motors in their kits some day. Many rtr models can do 20-25mph out the box on a 2s...many tamiya kits cost as much or more and do 20 at most.
My Tamiya plasma edge with torque tuned stock in the box. does 23mph on 2s all I did was put a pinion with 3 more teeth.
Tamiya bases their kits on the Japanese circuit (no lipo packs). Only a few "special" kits came with hotter than stock motors. I wish they would step up their game and put bearings & oil shocks in all kits. Sorry for the late reply, I just now seen it. Thanks for the view and comment!!!!
@@jalee6587 stock tt02d with the sportuned out of the kit does nealry 20 with a nimh. Didnt test ist with a lipo. But the Lipo ist noticeable faster.
Interesting video fella 👍
Thanks, i'm trying, i'm not really a media type of guy and my pc skills suck, same for my editing (no clue there) but a TH-camr said i should try it.
i also sub your channel, i have to watch your vids now.
@@UncleBobsRC You are doing a great job as it is, mate - go on! :D
@@UncleBobsRC Hi Bob, Andy is one of us good guys, mate, into RC for all the right reasons! Good man to follow! :))
Thanks Andy, Means alot Mate!!
That dyno does it come with the stand to measure the motor rpm?
Yes it did/does. i bought mine used off ebay but its standard with the system. Thanks for joining in.
Is the mabuchi 540 silver can the same as the johnson 540 silver can?
I think so, same amount of turns & windings also should be the same in timing.
So theres about 1000rpm difference between them?
Being interested in driving on uneven terrain and the marginal difference between the motors top output, I’d rather go with a torque tuned motor, aka BZ.
Lmao! Sport tune goes 44,000 rpm 🤣
LOL, almost, no, what went wrong was an alignment problem. i corrected it and it showed its true rpm (at least on my dyno). Thanks for watching Michael, glad you got a laugh out of it.