Y62 V8 Nissan Patrol vs Toyota LandCruiser Fuel Consumption Tow Test PART ONE (4K)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ธ.ค. 2019
- WE ARE EXCITED to finally drop PART ONE of our Fuel Consumption Tow Test between the ALL NEW 2020 Nissan Patrol Y62 V8 Petrol vs Toyota LandCruiser 200 Series V8 Turbo Diesel.
Towing our LXV 4.7 Off-Road Caravan from Bright Victoria up to Mt Hotham, Victoria with a 1540m elevation gain, this fuel consumption test results will blow your mind!
Disclaimer: Mountain Trail RV acknowledges that the vehicle technical specifications that have been obtained within this video is to the best of our ability and knowledge at the time of filming. For accuracy of the information, we recommend you to obtain information solely from the manufacturers and do not rely upon us for accuracy of technical specifications.
Join us as we give you an extensive rundown of specs, impressions and opinions on these two icon vehicles.
NOTE - the specifications detailed in this video are correct as of JANUARY 2020. Please consult with your local dealer for more up to date information.
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An epic war! Love them both..
Can't believe more people don't watch this channel. You guys are Australia's TFL..!
Hope you keep the channel going, because it's great to see real world fuel economy towing real weights up hills. Cheers
Thanks for the clarification and will look forward to more tests in the future, always interesting to see vehicles that we can't get in the U.S. please keep up the good work.
Loved the video. Can't wait for part 2. Subscribed
That is a very well presented vid. No boring bits. Well done.
Ooh how I love Ausie and their off-road creativity.
Waiting impatiently for Part 2! :) Great Video!
Is it out yet?
@@BelloBudo007 Part 2 dropped tonight!!
@@MountainTrailRV Thanks. Watching it right now over a coffee & loving it. 1.00am can you believe? What am I doing to myself?
Hey i came here for comparo but that van is impressive
You guys deserve much more subscribers (watching from Germany)! Great production and source load of very useful information. Keep it up!!
Much appreciated!
I can't believe that you weighed the trailer by itself, rather than doing the maths. Then weighed the patrol with the trailer, rather than doing the maths.
Unhitching and re-hitching surely took 20mins compared to 30 seconds of maths!
Brilliant test 👍
First watched this 4 years ago, just watch this pod again. Mate you do a really good job show chasing your vans and road testing the toe vehicles. I'm going to buy a second hand 200 2018 to 2020 model. I was reviewing this video to get the fuel consumption figure. The 300 is outside of buy budget but hey a good low Kilos 200 pickup for 80K. Do it again with the new models cheers.
Thanks for your support and for watching the video again! It's great to hear that you find the content helpful.
Noticed you used the LC200 on economy mode, as do I. I’ve got a LC200 GXL 2019 model with ARB BP51 600kg suspension upgrade and all the accessories from ARB (F&R lockers, air compressor, cargo draws, uhf, diff breathers, cargo barrier, roof rack, bash plates, twin wheel carrier rear bar, snorkel, long range tanks for 270 litres of diesel, etc) but I’ve also got a lockup converter on my auto trans. From Brisbane. This saves me about 3 to 4 litres per 100kms, keeps the auto trans cooler especially when towing my LXV 4.7 and holds gears better. As I’ve travelled around Australia these last 9 months I too get about 22 ltrs per 100 kms. I’ve done the Oodnadatta track from William Creek to Mount Dare, explored the NT, SA ,gone coastal around WA, crossed the Nullarbor and now I’m back in Melbourne for Xmas. New year off to Eastern seaboard. The Toyota LC 200 and Mountain Trail 4.7 LXV is really a great match for exploring all the nooks and crannies around Australia without the worry of something going wrong. Thanks Nick.
Gee the cruiser isn't very good value the patrol comes factory fitted with a rear locker and torque converter lock up
Hope you have a gvm upgrade. That's good economy.
Yup, 600kg ARB BP51 upgrade before rego.
What are the figures when not towing?
Sir Ken hi, around 18.2 litres per 100kms
You're 6'5", that's why I was like this guy is reviewing a huge land cruiser but seems like he's standing next to a Corolla 😅
Nice one
That place is beautiful 😍😍
Really? You should check out South Island New Zealand! I can see the ocean out my kitchen window and the snow capped mountains from my bedroom.
The Patrol look beautiful, just imagin how the new Land Cruiser 2021 will look like.
Should of done both same day myte!
We have the Royale Version of the Patrol. It's hella nice ride 👌
I would say they are busy with the fires, hope all safe down in Vic
This is such a good review on all three vehicles. F250 for the win! cant wait for part 2
Was recently travelling around the Tablelands NQLD , on the way up and around Ravenshoe towing my tuned bt-50 I was blessed to help out some poor fellas and their land cruisers which had been challenged by their towing load and the altitude.
Towing my 3.2T caravan with the fam in the 6 Spd Bt-50 , in hindsight I would go buy a Ram or F-250 or something due to the full time towing life
Love both of these but I hope there is more "trucks" and greater warrenties offered in Aussie soon for the ever increasing weight on caravans haha
Mark Norman. Cruiser now has 5 yr warranty.
Like to see the same comparison between the vehicles after a chop with full canopy too!
Re calculating fuel consumption. Did you check odo accuracy? Speedo and odo usually out by - 3% in standard vehicles
You forgot the overall width??!! Btw that's a great video compare 👍👍
I’m buying a y62 regardless, much better off road and smoother drive.
I am owner of Nissan Patrol Safari High Roof GQ with Td42 from 1988 as per today 32 years old running well. I don't understand why Nissan left that 4.2 diesel engine is reliable solid brick, you can modified it. Also high roof is good feature too I think.
Marian Javorka to meet emissions requirements just like landcruiser went from 4.2l to v8
To make it easier working out fuel consumption, just move the decimal point by “100”. Then it’s just one division to get the answer.
Very good vid,as in the compare specs,probably should have 100 k road section included,and I have f250 x2 so the whole time I'm thinking wish he would throw the ford in an he did or is going to,my 7.3 diesel get 16 to 23 per hundred and my mates got 400 hp gmc,s and they get 12 to 16 per hundred
Patrol is not in the same level with land cruiser, land cruiser is legend.
Bahaahahahhahah
Hahahahaha....
next one....
The sensible decision is Toyota but i love yhe size and street presence of the Patrol!
australia's version of the 'Ike Gauntlet" tow challenge
Whats the socket you use on the tow ball nut!? Awesome
Mountain trail RV you know you guys when talk g about the tyres said the land cruiser has 265s yet on screen it says 285s so which is it
From Brisbane to Falls creek I get about 11 litre to 100 kms in my Patrol, but from Mt Beauty to Falls it’s more like 30 litres (a lot of fun though) ....interested to see the Nissan’s results, I think high 20’s .
One thing you may not have considered, as to why such a large vehicle as the Patrol weighs so much of less than the Landcruiser, is the weights of their engines... Landcruiser has a cast iron block and weighs 372kg, the Patrol has an all alloy engine which weighs some 130kg less
Thanks Peter, we may mention that in the next episode
Why don’t we get updates for both of these cars in Australia?
Something I noticed in the video you didn’t show so maybe you didn’t do it is put the grey cap onto the hitch lock as it only fits if the latch is locked
I like the effort you've gone to here to ensure a level playing field and a valid comparison. No matter how well the Y62 performs (it will use slightly more fuel, but not much more) the Toyota faithful will be outraged by the comparison to their beloved, overpriced 200 series. The Y62 is simply a better full sized car, even before you factor in the substantial purchase price differential between the two, then add in significantly more maintenance costs.
Phil Grant
I agree with much of what you have said but I think the fuel usage will be a little more than ‘slightly’.I hope I am proved wrong though.
Phil Grant Toyota will stand the test of time, that is why they are so beloved.
@Nate Brindabella nissan dropped the ball in 2006 when instead of upgrading the td42 they dropped it. Coupled with the fact that the '04 and earlier zd30's were prone to blowing up and that is the engine it was left with then no diesel option at all in the y62 which crippled its sales across the world. In the end nissan destroyed their own fanbase/sales through out of touch business decisions which is a shame because the y62 is just as good if not better than the 200 series
@Nate Brindabella i agree 100% the gq and especially the gu are phenomenal 4x4s it's just that the engines suck haha. In aus just about every 4x4 comp is dominated by gu's and 80s with engine swaps
John Cadogan did a cost comparison and I think from memory calculated that you’d have to drive the Toyota for about 450 000km before the cost benefit of diesel caught up.
waiting for part 2
Dropping tonight!
@@MountainTrailRV Are you really?
Marek Bušta 2 Mordy-silver-Power, yes, stay tuned.
@@MountainTrailRV I believe that the video tune me. 😌😄
Still wondering why our Prado is VX/V10
somebody just bless me with any SUV from 2013 model, i have always wanted to drive one, located in Diani Beach in coastal Kenya. Thank you.
You're getting an SUV, you're getting a Suv, you're getting an SUV. How's that mate. May the power of the universe grant you your wish.
Kwani wewe ni omba omba?
You forgot about the tow bar weight it’s after market
In my country you will hardly ever see a Patrol anywhere but it's not hard to spot a Land Cruiser in the right places. You'll see a lot of Nissan Terras and Nissan Urvans though, so I think it's not that people here don't like Nissan, I think it's the Patrol's huge gasoline V8 that's killing sales. On the other hand the Land Cruiser's solid reputation for reliability, longevity, and resale value just puts the final nail on the Patrol's coffin.
Come on Nissan, shove a big, nice diesel in the Patrol and you'll no doubt sell a lot more of it. If you don't have a big V8 diesel then just source it from Cummins or something.
Nissan used a 5l Cummins v8 diesel in the US for their Nissan titan but they abandoned the engine last year it's such a shame
Are you from Philippines?
@@friedsheken953 are you?
@@ronch550 yes
@@friedsheken953 oh hey kabayan! Well considering the situation I don't think buying cars is a top priority for most folks right now. 😏 And with Nissan being hit really hard with this market downtown (everyone's getting hit hard of course but Nissan's stock is getting really killed, I think) and the uncertain future of the company after the thing with Carlos Ghosn (imprisonment, escape, etc.) and the Nissan Alliance's future looking grim without its architect, it's probably not a good idea to buy a Nissan right now.
Quite sure ground clearance is worse in LC200 because solid rear axle vs Nissan independent rear.
No doubt the Landcruiser no matter what spec sheets say
Thanks for the review any reason why you didn’t use the larger base station RV
As most Landcruiser and Y62 owners would buy these larger 4WD and caravans
Statistics don't really matter here...Because we all know which manufacturer makes the better vehicle.
NISSAN PATROL unique beauty I love it
Interested to see the dollar amount, as well as just LT. And possibly the purchase price for each.
Part 2 anywhere.
Also must be last footage before fires.
Dropping tonight! And yes, it is sad seeing this with what is happening right now..
As long as you guys are all safe and vic will recover as always
Don't matter if you Phil or Kirsty these two cars are bloody thirsty !!!
Nice width van no towing mirrors. In old school measurements how many foot long is the 4.7.
Owen Mawbey 15 feet
@@duncanorme2131 Cheers.
where is part 2?
Im the same height and agree about the inside the Cruiser. Def don’t try sitting in the back.
Did the patrol vid get done with the ford superduty?
Part 2 is coming very soon
Hey mate I can’t find your ford and patrol review video?
Its dropping early next week. Stay tuned!!
Can't wait for the results. Patrols are a bit ugly but I am over diesels.
@@LandCruisin True for towing and fuel economy you Can't beat one.
@@LandCruisin The only reason we are getting tired of them is they are way to high tech now and are not as reliable as they were and requiring to much maintenance and a great expence.
@@Mambey agreed mate.. I'm a diesel mechanic that deals with latest diesel engines.. with egr, dpf and soon to have ad blue.. the epa have totally ruined the reliability of the diesel engine.. I see it day in and day out of people who have spent there hard earned money on a vehicle that you need to take out ANOTHER loan to repair... breaks my heart to see this.. but it's the sad truth.. and now petrols are starting to get similar thermal efficiency as a diesel.. I'm honestly leaning toward petrol 😳
Well Mawbey!
It also has a 5.7L petrol variant!
And another one of 4.5L
A mates patrol towing the same 3.3 ton van as my 200 uses 12-14 lph more than the 209
GVM is reduced by 130kg on the patrol when towing 3500kg
The same as the 200 series. All wagons take TBW off the GVM. Utes take the TBW off the GCM.
No, you are confusing TBW with the GVM penalty the patrols have. GVM always includes TBW. The patrol needs to reduce GVM by an additional 130kg plus the TBW. The 200 has no GVM penalty.
BTW, Utes also include the TBW in the GVM. ALL light vehicles do
@@VEOPengineering ah shit yes sorry. I was thinking about how it effects payloads between wagons and utes. Case in point 10:04 onwards in this video th-cam.com/video/swUDFWQ5QhI/w-d-xo.html
Where the TBW come out of a wagons GVM to calculate what is left for playload weight (GVM - Kerb Weight - TBW = Payload) and utes dont (GCM - AGM - Kerb Weight = Payload)
th-cam.com/video/hQvlTzMXvdo/w-d-xo.html 👍
I like Land Cruiser.
Man that bonnet on the Cruiser is .......different
So you've specified kerb weight for both vehicles @1:21. Of which, the figure quoted for the Patrol is tare by the way. Then at @4:49 state both manufacturers were accurate with the tare weights.
The figure for Landcruiser is wrong. As kerb weight includes the full tank of fuel, tare is only 10 litres. Either the bridge is wrong, of the kerb weight quote by Toyota is wrong.
Toyota quotes kerb weights of 2630kg for GXL and 2705kg for VX and Sahara. Either way, figures are way off. More so if tare figures are used.
Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing. Something doesn’t add up in regards to the weights.
Typical Cruiser Fanboi, always looking for an excuse ! Fact is, you buy a Cruiser V a Patrol and you need at least 500k worth of driving to make back the difference in fuel consumption to even catch up verse the buy cost ! 😂
@@aussienscale I don't like either vehicle, no need or use for either of them. I was pointing out flaws in the figures as there was an inconsistency and for me, that degrades the credibility of the video which is being portrayed as objective.
@@JohnSmith-nz4bn fair call 👍
Hiya , well my 1991 Nissan safari 4.1 diesel non turbo is bloody awesome , I have own it 24 years and only done the water pump, breaks and exhaust system batteries fan belt idle bearing and that’s it , they don’t makem like this any more. That’s where Nissan went wrong they brought out the 2.8 diesels whata mistaka to maka
And they merge with Renault.. bad decision but in those days that was the only solution to their problem!
Such a well put together video but why use the lightest van you could. It’s a towing test video, put the whole 3.5T on them
Great idea, and we are doing that soon
Awesome! Thanks for the reply. Will subscribe for future videos :)
Bit confused why you didn't tow both vans with the LC and Patrol instead of using the f truck? (I'll admit I did skip a few bits of you did answer this 🙃)
Hi Mark, you may need to watch episode 1 , we did the Landcruiser in Ep.1 and then threw in the F250 for fun in Ep.2.
@@MountainTrailRV Ah nice thanks, this just came up in my suggestions so haven't seen your channel.
Where did you find a Patrol?
Not a comment about towing. Used Landcruisers for long distance overland surveys in the Sahara to carry equipment and personnel, but took a Patrol with winch to do the grunt work, like pulling the 'Cruisers out of sand 😄. Would always pick a Patrol over a 'Cruiser for serious off-road stuff.
Hi, please, can your company deliver to costumers door step here in the philippines when he purchase an LXV 6.7. even if it warrants that your company would add the cost of shipping the product and also the cost of clearing it from the philippines port, to the original cost of the R.V.?
Lol no one has caravans in the Philippines mate 😂
nope. no caravan dealer here. and the worst is that even when i order it from abroad, i am not eligible to clear it from the custom port because i am a foreigner but i live here in the philippines.
Andrew Hynes. just type in google, caravan for sale in philippines, then you see for yourself. hehehehehe
Nissan patrol 🥰😍
Why didn't you test a petrol Landcruiser..Vs a petrol Patrol dunnga..??
I prefer Toyota Landcruiser because it is a diesel engine
Toyota should be the only vehicle manufacturer in the world enough said
I think Toyo needs healthy competition, that's why Nissan needs to step their game up, and go back to the old days when it was a truly competitor against Toyota. Like we like to say in Spanish, "Choque de Titanes"..
A mates patrol towing the same 3.3 ton van as my 200 uses 12-14 lph more than the 209 2:31
Why not the petrol land cruiser or that's not sold in Australia?
Not used by many people at all
Dodge ram 2500 you would run 15.2 ltrs per 100.
Interesting video but those sandals
2nd video any time soon
Part 2 is coming tomorrow night, stay tuned
Part 2?
Dropping tonight!!
Once you said Landcruiser is a V8 Diesel, then it's a clear winner, without having to watch the video
Haha how misled! Watch Pt2...Also with the price point difference the Patrol has plenty left over for fuel and accessories budget.
@@meandering_wombat I would like to see how much petrol he went through if he used e10 or 95 since he use 98 I have a mate that's got one and he complaints about how thirsty it is and he only tow a camper trailer I'm confused
phil foote A worthy test, 98 is more efficient, yet pricey. The benefits still out weigh. Petrol service costs are cheaper and less frequent. A similar specs 200 effectively equates to well over 500K kms of fuel with the coin in the pocket for fuel. Also depends on how heavy footed, as that petrol V8 supercar engine is tempting to make it roar.
@@meandering_wombat yes very confused I have a Hilux my mate has a Y62 and it sounds so good
He says it's so thirsty but he has a heavy right foot borrowed his dad's 200 series to go to Queensland at Christmas said it was so much better on diesel I'm very confused of what to buy I have a Nissan and a Toyota in my family both Japanese bill to perfection
phil foote I think there’ll be a small hit overall. Though with towing performance without struggling. Less issues overall on servicing, less dirty fuel issues and expense that causes with diesel. series 4 on has been tweaked for economy. I just can’t justify the expense of the 200 and the awesome base inclusions of the Y62. Bigger, lighter, cheaper a winner for me.
Part II ??? I drive the same Landcruiser, but with snorkel. I tow a 3 tonne Van, your figures are accurate for that weight and climb with the diesel, but really, should of compared a petrol 200
Peter Willmott. And where can you buy a petrol Cruiser. Not in Australia that’s for sure.
30K price difference, the toyota won't break even for 400,000 kms, IMO the patrol is a bargain at 90K
Until you read all the reviews of owners from the US and realise they are not the reliable old trucks they used to be. I wanted one, but they are the still the typical crap that Nissan sell these days. Wouldn’t trust one to take me off the Hume Fwy. Sucks, because its a hell of a motor and on paper its a good thing.
I got new ti for $68k drive away with tow bar! No brainer
rigged100
Mine y62 is 9yrs old is still almost new, nissan all the way ,400hp is even low in consumption.
@@rigged100 how many old land cruisers do you see on the roads today as compared to the old patrols that are still running great?
@@davida.livingston8543 a lot lmao, there’s a reason why Toyota still produces 70 series up to this day. Also you act like the “old” patrol aren’t being maintained that they’re still going strong😭. Toyota has some million mileages cars/trucks that’s still running good.
Do you wonder that the cruiser only really towed for 50km, and coasted the other 50km back down the hill?
Where is the rest of the video?
Part 2 has dropped tonight!! Check it out.
7:31 where did you get a 'right hand drive' Ford?
@megatrucks Sydney
They’re converted when they get to Australia and you can’t tell it’s been converted. They’re fully ADR compliant across the country. Very professional work but you pay for it.
I won't argue on the topic of power but when it comes to durability lc200 wins.
You can watch my videos on how much i torture my lc200 and she never says no, if the same torture was given to a nissan it would breakdown in a year.
useless anecdotal evidence. "the other wouldve broken down 4 sure, cause i said so"....
@@GTRwilson we have both the cars in our field, we have tried both the cars. Here in Middle east during summer not only the nissan breaks fast but also the a/c stops cooling.
So what was the Nissan fuel consumption? Please
PART TWO drops tonight, make sure you subscribe to find out!
What ron fuel was used in the patrol also? It Does make a difference.
William Petrosanec We used 98.
@@MountainTrailRV cheers guys, when is the next video out?
@@willyp11 Part 2 has dropped tonight. Check it out!!
Cheers guys just watched it before, interesting results. Looking forward to the future vids
Done the F250 video yet?
In the long run. V8 Gasoline will win compare to twin turbo diesel (philippine settings) Diesel here are not refined/not clean plus if you will not maintain the engine well the turbos will give up. Unlike the NA v8 gasoline, its indestructable. Smiles per liter baby! :-)
Is part 2 here?
Dropping tonight!!
@@MountainTrailRV wicked
Why not run the vehicles back to back, using the same van, same speed? Also why not include the F truck in the comparison as well.
The only down side about filming over different days and even the same day is the weather/hourly temp could slightly affect the performance.
Good call. Hook em all up to the same van and do it altogether. I’d be surprised if the F truck used a great deal more.
The weather conditions were exactly the same on each day. We considered that before we filmed. 35 degrees C on both days in Bright!
Come on, where’s part 2
Dropping tonight!
If nissan dropped their 5L Cummins V8 from the Titan xd, then they would absolutely clean up
Not a great engine, that is why they dropped it
When is part 2? Nissan Patrol?
Its coming tonight around 7PM. Make sure you subscribe and turn notification on so you don't miss it
Cmon part 2 Y62 please.
Too late i just bought one...
What did you buy ?
@@MountainTrailRV I bought the new series 5 patrol Ti in Hermosa blue and love it. I've only done 800kms in it so far and just did a surf trip of about 380km which included approx 60km of soft beach with 20psi in the tyres and averaged 15.8 on the gauge for the trip...It sat on around 12lph on the hwy.
I certainly didnt take it easy either. Drives bloody unreal and for the price i got it for i feel i am miles in front of a comparative 200. Time will tell though.
I am yet to tow with it. Get the tow bar fitted next week. They do get pretty good figures towing. I know you are doing Hotham but it would also be good to do a flatter comparison too. Not too many hills over here in WA.
And dont drive the patrol like a diesel when you test it please...probably too late but had to say it
And finally hurry up and put the vid up.....😁
@@camfrods check out Part 2, it dropped tonight!!
@@MountainTrailRV part 2 is a surprise. Thought it would be close but i expected the ford to win it easy.
Great car the S5 Y62.
With the Patrol you will never get more than 100 litres in when on empty even though it's 140 ltr tank. So you cant bank on an accurate lph doing that way. I'm banking on 33 ltrs per hundred for that run if it's driven correctly. But you don't buy one if you only destiny in life is fuel acconomy.
we could have a little sweep stakes on the Y62 fuel usage eh. my bid 35 LPH
I'm saying under 30lts per 100kms. My 4.7 petrol Cruiser averages 28lts per 100kms towing van.
It's actually 2 tanks, 1 x 100lt and 1 x 40lt, they fill together but you use the 100lt first then the fuel pod inside the main tank switches to drawing out of the 40 lt tank, I've regularly put 120 lt + into mine, most was 137 lts in one fill.
33Lph 🤣 must really know your cars
Toyota ❤️
What's funny is the ford super duty can tow the trailers and bought SUV trucks on a flat bed trailer at once
Not here, otherwise people would be using them as commercial vehicles
Why not compare the Patrol with the 5.7 petrol LandCruiser.
That engine is only available down under with the Lexus LX570,
Landcruiser Full option its 5.7
Nissan patrol have two diffrent engine 5.6 400hp.. & 320 hp V8
Nissan Titan pickup truck. 390 HP
Fast. In the USA.
@@user-ro7jp6by7y That's for Middle East And Amercia only.
Most of the towing community are of the belief a vehicles kerb weight includes a driver and full tank of fuel..... appears not, there goes a good couple hundred kg's just there.
Could you do a engine start up sound for both the Land cruiser and Nissan Patrol. Land cruiser sounds better I guess cuz of those twin turbos but now that you've got the supercharger on Nissan. The results might be interesting 😏😉