my mom is gorkhali I was subject to severe racial abuse in my childhood which destroyed my childhood it is high time gorkhas seperate from Bengal and stop being enslaved by them, enough of racism..
@Anupam Roy--I can understand your Pain. There are many others like You.Many have Bengali Mothers and Non Bengali Fathers. You are not alone Brother. 🙏
When Sikkim was newly added to the India Union, Darjeeling was more developed than Gangtok. But now, if you happen to visit Gangtok and then Darjeeling, you'll see how much the curve of Darjeeling has come down in terms of development. This itself shows why Gorkhaland must be a separate state, besides the fact that it has Gorkhali people who have distinct cultural differences as compared to the rest of Bengal. Also, the new state is not going anywhere outside the nation. It will be within India, just that it will be a new, developed place, that's it. I don't think it's just on part of West Bengal government to keep holding Gorkhaland under its control just for the sake of it's greed over its beauty, tea industry and tourism. Gorkhalis have always loved their fellow countrymen, and have the same allegiance towards the nation; and this movement is NOT against our Bengali brethren or West Bengal in particular. P.S. 1)The British had added the proposed 'Gorkhaland' region to Bengal only for administrative convenience. 2) It would be ignorant on your part to compare this movement with that of Kashmir, which is a disputed territory eversince 1947, and India, Pakistan and a fraction of the Kashmiris all claim it to be theirs. 'Gorkhaland', on the other hand was, is, and shall always be an integral part of India. The Gorkhas are just claiming their birth right.
Yes. TMC just killed my North Bengal. I don't support breaking my state but I support development. But also a question stuck in my head what did Bimal Gurung did with all the money GTA got?? He looted Nepali and all my North bengal's friends.
Demand for Gorkhaland is genuine and has a valid point, culture different, language different , has enough population to be a separate state, has a long history of their demand, Govt. should immediately step inn , and declare Gorkahaland a separate country
debojit dutta declare them different country bt never merge nd relate darjeeling nd its people wid my peace country Nepal..Gorkhaland is there in nepal already a historic place of nepal..Nepali from Nepal r real brave gorkhas these darjeeling People r not gorkhas they r cowards fake Just using our brave kings name from gorkha nd demanding gorkhaland to gain some attention... Infact they r not real gorkhas.. Real gorkhas r more in british army regiment nd few r in indian army regiment..darjeeling people r not gorkhas Just using our Nepals history nd demanding state named gorkhaland....we nepali from nepal r against it..either they rename their state as darjeeling land or whatever bt not gorkhaland bcoz gorkha nd gorkhalis belongs to Nepal nd only Nepal.. there can't b another gorkhaland in india.. if darjeeling People r proud indian then why don't they accept indian laws indian languages and rules? what do they want? what?
When Urdu was about to impose on Bengali, they opposed. They came on the street. Why????????? because Bengali people love their language and they don't want any other languages to be imposed on them. Today, I ask Mamata Benezeee why you are imposing your language on others. As you love your language so do others. Because of this language issue , Bengali people separated from Pakistan and the map of Pakistan was changed. I think Mamata Benerzee wants to repeat the same history in Darjeeling.
Vishu Rana ,to form a new state ,there must be some criteria for complete state. I seem a small district like Darjeeling is not at all suitable to form a micro state.
I´m from Nepal... I'm proud to being neplese.... Gorkha land is in nepal... so I support gorkhali... evev if I have to sacrifice my life... for the gorkhalese....
I am really dissapointed to see our spokes person unable to keep the valid point to counter the opposition and Prasant Tamang, is that we are called darwan is only the valid reason for formation of gorkhaland??? bull shit. There are many gorkha intellectual who can mute these opposition like harka bahadur, p.lama and many more.
viky kuda I agree with you..Deserving and knowledgeable people should be brought into these platforms.Morever , a strategic plan is needed, u need to be backed up with sufficient knowledge against your opposition.Next time be careful don't just let anyone take the platform Deserving people should be getting a chance.
I am Bengali and totally against imposing Bengali to any other ethnic people. this will only increase hate. Lots of people learn Bengali at will, There is no need impose it on anyone. I think most of them can talk, then why to impose further and put them in identity threat, all nonsense I dont know why the intellectuals of kolkata are not speaking against it.
কেনো বাংলায় থাকে বাংলা শিখবেনা কেনো?? উত্তর প্রদেশে যে বাঙালী থাকে তাকে বাধ্যতামূলক ভাবে হিন্দি শিখতে হয়। সব রাজ্যে এই সিস্টেমই চলছে , বাঙালিরা বেশি ভদ্র বলে পেয়ে বসেছে!!
Thank you for Supporting .I am gorkha from Darjeeling and I found Bengali language sweet and nice so now I'm learning it but one should not impose their language on other.❤
Just like every Bengali speaking person is not Indian bcoz Bangladesh has more Bengali speaking population, Punjabi is spoken in Pakistan punjab province n Indian state of punjab,Tamil in sri Lanka n Tamil Nadu state, similarly it is our case, Nepali is among 22 official languages of india,n ya a small state is functioning,Goa is smaller than Gorkhaland area, Sikkim has less population than Gorkhaland state,n article 3 of Indian Constitution says a state is to be craved if two community faces their identity crisis,next time please ask this questions to the Indian government,Jai Hind,Jai Nepali language,Jai Gorkha🇮🇳
If today Nepalese demands for Gorkhaland then may be sometime in near future Bangladeshi residing in India will demand for a separate state in Assam. Basically instead of making a separate state they can opt for Union Territory.
PooZaa Chettry TMC is playing a big game with the sentiments of the community. It is as simple to show sympathy for the initial time . With the passage of time it will become an agony and bitter heart feeling for their own country. The people The Gorkhas who fought for us should be acknowledged but not in the sake of giving only Gorkhas as a separate land but to the whole Nepalese people who are serving for the country. I will not say who is terrorist and who is not but now it is not the matter of concern rather it is the matter of saving cultural and ethnic identity.. CS: No Hatred Only Peace
Diwas Upadhyay u r idiot diwas.. timro soch sunera I thanks to god u r nt my frn..wat r u saying we all Nepalis who belong India..they jst speaking Nepali like English Hindi 👆 don't dare to say anything about us.. dimak chaina ta na bola okkkkkkkk
Darjeeling never belonged to India. Never. It was given as a gift by Chogyal of Sikkim to Britishers. It always was Nepali people's. They didn't come as migrants. That's their land. Such ignorant comment
India cannot turn a blind eye to the genuine and justified demand for a separate province of #Gorkhaland . This demand is about 110 years old and long overdue justice must be delivered.
Mohua Iam very much impressed by whatever you have said. me being a residence of siliguri and currently passing through the situation in both the hills and plains cannot agree with you more. Just for the language issue demand for a seperate state is not a valid point. GTA chief bimal gurung has robbed both central and the state. In the name of development he has taken 1500cr but has given nothing to the people of hills. The roads are bad, there is no hospital, and no sign of any development in the past five years. In short he has digested all the money. I request ndtv to please do a research on GTA issue to let people of India know what GJM has done to the people of hills. Such corruption should not prevail. Once again very glad that we have such great speaker like mohua
We the people of darjeeling are very innocent and loyal hence these corrupted leaders always exploits us. I will stand for gorkhaland but not behind this leaders. Now they say that it has become peoples movement so we have to choose our own leaders. Most of this existing leaders think that they can play with us for their greed but now it wont be like that. So guys lets not follow these leaders and we should not accept anything told by them. Now we need new leaders who does not represent any political party. jai gorkha jai gorkhaland..
my mom is gorkhali I was subject to severe racial abuse in my childhood which destroyed my childhood it is high time gorkhas seperate from Bengal and stop being enslaved by them, enough of racism..leaders should stop fooling uneducated gullible gorkhas
Shweta ,.Indian constitution uses the term gorkha in different context..In India it is used for denote the Indian nepalis amd in nepal it is used in another context..So plz dont comment bcz i net you have no ideas of British empire rule and how it moulded the term gorkha in India.Gorkha is not an exclusive term for nepal (although the word came from nepal) .Ever heard of globalisation?Read wikipedia for more info of gorkha in India
gorkhaland demand is to make a safe heaven for pakistan cause it is sharing border with nepal., sikkim, bangladesh... china is already making banker near sikkim border. India is already divided in the name of religion,caste etc. Is it not enough identity as 'Indian'. what a shame?
rajashekar reddy, Goa is smalled but its still a state. Sikkim population is less than Darjeeling but it is still a state. u people are always bias against us whenever it comes to our demand. We will take what is ours. I have always noticed this kind of bias against Northeast people and thats why most of the Northeast pple are asking for a seperate country. Is that what u want??
Mustang kina hepchan northeast ka Nepali lai sale partiality garne..nepalis hosh bhani sahe ma Nepali ban bujis..sala taile happera hepiyam hami.. gadha budhi ko raichas.. hissabadi Saram le dub mar papi.. aafnu daju bhai ko madad garnu chaina.. tara aago ma ghee halera salwane deshdrohi ho taaaaaa
I get it.... In every area where people speak up for their rights the BJP government shut down internet and phone lines just like in Kashmir more recently. Just listen @ 19:50 minutes Applause for this ❤️ Guy. Speaking for his people.
ke ko gorkhaland? gorkhali ma fight garne gurung magar rai limbu khas thakuris haru ko afno chuttai bhasa ani culture cha ,gorkha land bhanera eutai ho bhanna mildaina..there are gorkhas in india, britain, france, singapore, hong kong and america too. to fight for one gorkha language and state in other country is foolish. Would britain or honkong give gorkhaland if they start a protest there too? Gorkhas are a group of soldiers from different ethnic backgrounds from Nepal who have their own language and culture for eg. gurung, magar, rai, limbu and khas chettri.. they are the main gurkhas and they have their own different language and culture. Yes nepali is the official language of Nepal but other gorkha soldiers' language is also official there, that means you have to fight for magar gurkhaland, gurung gorkha land, limbu gorkhaland , khas gorkha land etc..The best you can ask is for a separate state in India with a gorkhe feel not with a gorkha name which is not inclusive of all the ethnic groups. for eg.. pahad, darjeeling, dooar or himalaya..and that too politically. Protesting in streets is not going to solve ur problem. and don't forget the lepchas, bhutiyas, are they gorkhas too?
Janexhas.. kai navako.batthi..hami india Ko Gorkha haru Ko prob Ra history kei bujhako xhaina raisas..hawray ma batthi vayexhas..afnai manxhay haruko against ma..thukka.👎👎👎
Basantakumar Ghosh, yes if a new country, then why not. Its not like we came across to West Bengal. We did not cross the border but the border crossed us. If British was still ruling India, were you going to see yourself as British? If not British then why not British because India would have been part of Britian. During British rule, did British ever tell Indians that they came from another country?
English people live in Australia and in America. They just don't live in Britain itself. Sameway we will name it a different country. Between i m not a hypocrite like u. I will not take even an inch of land which is not mine and i will not let u take even an inch which is mine.
Even after 70 years of India's independence, u Indian fools try to always question our loyalty. Now it is time to think India's loyalty towards us. My family has shed more blood for India than u rudra dey have it in ur body. U people have only made us to re-think our loyalty. Frankly speaking now my loyalty is only towards Gorkhaland. If u r loyal to Gorkhaland, i will b loyal to u and if not buzz off.
Wb gov they made their own decisions n in hills only Nepali exist not Bengali n how we can accept Bengali language we are Nepali n we will only accept Nepali language n we sacrifice for India in world world n till now we are supporting we are not toys we are gorkhas n we want gorihaland
Prashant Tamang what ?????Even a kid can answer why a separate state is required.The problem of not being able to project these people are the main cause of the delay in separate state....
Vaibhav Kasaundhan it's not about name it's about leadership. they are not highly educated and experience they don't know how to represent in national media. how they will run their own state? think it.
Edwin Ferrault we all Nepalis who belong other country they r loyal bt who belong from Nepal they disrespect us bt it's OK we r educated people nt like them.. so had Bharat jai Nepal jai gorkhali
RB Rajput for your kind information , i don't think the people of Nepal disrespect (other country) Nepalese people , and loyalty shows by their honesty not by their education . Education change our mind ,makes aware from unknown things but it can't change our heart . When your friends n family need help does ur Education work . And I'm not agree with ur opinion too becoz myself I'm Nepali...Jai Nepal Jai gorkha ..
If Gorkhaland was to be discussed then they should have invited top Gorkha leaders in the debate for a real debate. Instead they debated the topic with all anti-Gorkhaland people in the debate ... This exposes their biased journalism. Shame on you NDTV!
Why do Indians make fun of Pakistan.. .. he had write the positive thing ... its not his fault that is was born in pakistan .. and neither is his fault for these 2 counteries rivalry... its all done by the late peoples of both countries.. not by the these generation... WhY so cruel ??? Show some respect to all the nations in the world, PLEASE!!!(for people of both nations).
Absolutely right comments . The CM of WB has done her best for her Gorkha brothers & sisters of Darjeeling . Depriving south she is trying to develop the hilly region.Unfortunately some power hungry traitors are misguiding common people using communal centiments to achieve their personal vested interest. It is the duty of common & reasonable minded people of the area to stay away from any type of destructive movement organized by those hooligans. Join Mamatadi for the development of Darjeeling for the interest of common people of the thanks to all.
Roshan Giri : you need to practice more in public speaking. Prashant bro stick to singing. All other Bengalis: Just Shut up n listen to Gorkhali voice.
Actually India was colonised by British. It is evident that the British invaded and occupied the territories of Nepal to extend the Indian colonial Empire. Nepal(which was then from Tista in the East to Satlaj in the West and nearly Ganga river in south)lost one third of its territory to east India company which include many places like Darjeeling, Sikkim, nainital, dehradun, almora and many more) by signing Sugauli Treaty which later turned to Indian territory as British left India. But NEPAL has a right to get back the ceded territories. Colonial Power, the British left India setting up new sovereign states that claimed sovereign statehood. Pakistan was one of them. After the demolition of colonial rule Goa which was colony of Portugal became part of India and the Hong-Kong which was part of China became a sovereign sate. Similarly, The sovereign people of Nepal have every right to claim the lost territory of former Nepal. All these people are not only fighting for the name of the state, they fighting for their identity of their own it belongs to them to Nepalese who are children of those brave Gurkhas who died protecting, saving and not letting somebody else to come to their land. They somehow couldn’t protect all of the land but it’s now our duty as a proud Nepali(Gorkhali) to protect, restrain our greater Nepal. Jai Nepal 🇳🇵
NDTV, please understand, there is much more than what is being discussed here in regards to Gorkhaland. Language barrier, developments in the hills, education, jobs etc. are some of the factors that is adding up to current situation over the period of over 100 years pending demand. There is an urgent need to give an identity to the Gorkha people. They have given their sweat and blood for the country but they are not given their due credit. They are being oppressed time and again by any government in West Bengal specifically and GOI in general. They need to come up and its a high time they are given an identity, the Gorkhaland. Centre should not shy away from this matter and ignore the pain of the Gorkha people. These people came with their land and West Bengal govt has nothing to do with Gorkhaland. Dajeeling area was put under West Bengal purely for administration purpose only and holds not history with these people and their land.
jai gorkhaland, sorry to say but i realize that there should be more intellectual delegation from the hills.. looks like hills are playing underdogs and bengali politics is getting high again as earlier thanks
Nepal taking advantage of the decline of the Mughal rule invaded India in 18th century in Darjeeling, Sikkim, Kumaun, Himachal Pradesh, but the East India Company with the help of local kings of these areas drove them out. they came back when Stupid Nehru signed Indo-Nepal treaty in 1950, by which Nepalese can come to India without visa and can stay. Now these Nepalis are calling themselves as Gurkhas and demanding a separate state.
The narrative is simple. While the erstwhile independent kingdom of sikkim existed so did the kingdom of Limbuwan. Limbuwan was an autonomous region that paid a tax of one horse per year to the Hindu King of Nepal and was promised help in case of war and had to promise to help the Hindupati in case of war with men and weapons. Sikkim had its own issues with Limbuwan and one day war broke out betweed the two kingdoms . True to the agreement the Hindu king helped with money and men and Silkim was faced with defeat so they turned to the East India Company for help and East India Company helped Sikkim win the war. The terrorities of Limbuwan was annexed and the British leased the land from the Sikkim Raja to grow tea n build a place to recoup n recover. Later when India got her independence Sikkim stayed silent about the territories they had leased out . When the State Reorganizatiin Committee (in 1953/7) was comissioned to make the map of India the same tract of land was deemed as "tribal land" and it was merged with the state of Bengal "FOR ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES". Then the Govt of India also forgot about this bit ofvland as the young nation had other pressing matters in hand. The indegenous people who lived in those tracts of land fell victim to harrasment and exploitation by the Bengal Govt who basically excluded them from almost everything including fudging the population census that shows even today that the people didnt exist. Denied basic human rights on their own land and denied their iwn history the people were subjected to racism and excluded from self governance. To make their claims stronger the West Bengal Govt cleverly used the word "Nepali" to mean that the people came from Nepal hence they were forigeners. The people were forced to give up their ethnic name and re name themselves as " Indian Gorkhas " a title that the fortunate citizens of Nepal condemmn the people of Darrjeeling to have "stolen" from them ....not even trying to understand how or why the people here had to face to come to that situation where we were outcasts . In Nepal we were called Darjilingays and Dhotis meaningbwe were looked down for our Indian nationality. In India we were "Nepalis" or forigeners ...... Kehata ha na Hindi mei... Dhobi ka kutta na ghar ka na ghat ka. Imagine such treatment being borne in silence for years and years. Finally in 1986 Shri Subash Ghishing lead the movement for Gorkhaland because we needed an identity and basic human rights. Bengal Govt fought back and politicised the movement with 99 percent of Bengalis not having the faintest idea of the history of the land. Politicans kept the narrative Bengal was not to be divided again and all that political retoric. Imagine claiming ownership of a land that has names of villages and hills and townships in the tribal dialect and not even "Nepali language" that is the common link language of a group of people with our own languages and culture. The tibetian refugees that were settled here is another angle altogether. So here we are strangers on our own land being asked to prove our loyalty to our Nation and being asked to go back to Nepal. while our neighbours and brothers n sisters of Nepal call us Thieves for "STEALING" the GORKHA title. The Government of Bengal insisting a piece of land that has names like Mirik and Kalimpong n Kharsang and Libang Sitrabung Pulungdung Lahring n Seering and Singringtam and manaebhyanjang as a part of Bengal when i am pretty sure they dont even know in which language these places have been named and yes these places existed before n during the East India Company. The British unfortunately rechristened a few teastates so we have a Bannokburn and Marylbone and Magrets hope as well but we can tell its the Brits who christened the place. The Tibetian refugees who settled here under the blessings of the Congress have caused enough damage to the ethnic fabric along with being aided by the Govt to help them have control over most of the Govt jobs so that the Govt population census or anything related to us written down as record cannot be trusted.... Glaring example of the number of "official numbers "of death according to the Bengal Govt during the 1986 Agitation for Gorkhaland to the real figures put up by families that lost their dear ones. Lallantop is welcome to walk into the govt offices to check this claim .just any independent reporter is welcome to walk into the govt run places and see the numbers of Gorkha officials and the numbers of non Gorkha officials holding top posts here in Darjeeling and then we can have a discussion on fair representation. During the struggle for Independence the right to self rule was a birthright but in a democratic India asking for the same right as a citizen of this Nation has landen a huge number of our people in jail and faced with trumped up charges in 2017. We still wait for justice from our Motherland. Jai Bharat Jai Gorkha Jai Gorkhaland. 🙏🙏🙏 PS please copy paste this before it gets reported abd deleted because TH-cam generally cant handle the truth.
While most people sympathise with gorkha people but practically it is not possible due to geography of Darjeeling and also economic factors. Also in Darjeeling there are significant non-gorkha tribes who do not want to come under gorkhas as that will reduce their power in the hills.
I don't understand this is such a sensitive issue but then also apart from eastern state no other part of India is giving this issue all the attention it requires. I have made video regarding this in hindi but there are no views I.e hindi speaking population is not showing any kind of interest in this issue. I hope people find some kind of solution to the Gorkhaland issue before it's too late.
Is an aspiration only the reason for Darjeeling People to demand Gorkhaland?Mr Giri just said ''It is a public demand and aspiration''.Our Nepali spokesperson did not express the main issues that the Hill people are actually facing.The Non-Nepali people(audience) said rightly and talked about the poverty n all...The major issues,problems and the valid reasons for demanding Gorkhaland should be specific and should reach to the center.They should see the actual reasons for demanding Gorkhaland,we should not seek this sympathetically.
Not a single one is talking about the main reason behind the rejection of gorkhaland. It's the *"chicken-neck"* factor that's why it's impossible to create gorkhaland. It's not a political propaganda it's a administrative problem
Dargeeling was always the part of Bengal and will always be a part of it , the gorkha Nepalese people had been brought to this place by Britishers, since then they have formed majority in the area
NDTV what are you trying to prove by bringing an Indian Idol winner in a debate infront of such polished speakers? Its like bringing Mamata Banerjee to debate with the students of Jadavpur university.
Guys dont break our country...I know its a different culture in the the Hills and the rest of the West Bengal..If we consider a seperate state ..that will be a precedence for other groups in the country..
Lepcha (Rongkup) and Yakthung (limboo/Tsong) are original inhabitant of these lands. They speak Lepcha and Yakthung languages, and have their own distinct Script, cultures, traditions, and ethnicity and religions. They follow their Matriarchal religions and worship nature and believe female sovereign gods. They are not Gorkha or ethnic nepali, thus why they are demanding gorkhaland, it has no historical aspects. They must ask in the name of something that related to Lepcha and Yakthung and other indigenous tribes. And related to Lho-Men-Tsong sum as previously these land were part of Sikkim. People need very deep critical research there. Hope indigenous tribes get their historical rights 🥰❤😇
But limboo is nepali ldont know lepcha is who??but found in ellam in nepal. U want divide our community whole gorkha or nepali people are mixing with khash and mangol enough ur suggestions.
Mahua ji u saw da municipal elections mandate ndTV shld shw her recent mandate on gorkhalnd issue in mirik itself the same people who voted fr TMC came to the streets against them voices are united for gorkhaland
Tbh no good deserving Gorkha representative is here ,They are not being to express fully ,the dire need of separate state ,a good speaker should have went .They don’t understand this level of complex English fully ,We Darjeeling people should pick a wise intellectual leader who can speak and express best reasons as why we need Gorkhaland .It’s national tv and see Roshan giris explanation ,he should be able to point strong drawbacks of TMC and strong points to the need of Gorkhaland .Could have mentioned ,unemployment for Nepalis , racism in west Bengal regarding Nepalis ,The sacrifice of Gorkhas ,the loyalty, the utmost need of Gorkhaland .
DIVIDING ALL THE STATE & MAKE REPUBLIC OF INDIA IS A AGENDA OF PAID MEDIA BY BJP LED GOVT .EVEN REPLUBLIC CHANNEL OPENS UNDER THE BENEFITED PAID JOURNALISTS.PLEASE DON'T TELL ABOUT DIVERSITY OF ANY STATE .EVERY STATES OF INDIA HAVE DIFFERENT CULTURAL DIVERSITY SO IF CULTURAL DIVERSITY BASED THEN NOBODY HAVE KNOWLEDGE HOW MANY PARTS INDIA WILL BE ! PLEASE DON'T TRY DIVIDE ANY STATE.
indian sarkaar lai paap karako dhoti haru ko paap ko ghada fhutecha, hamro desh ma pasera hamro tarai lai uchalera gandagol gareko thio , sabai nepali milera bhut bhagaye jhai bhagaunu pareko thio aja tesko harek chettra ma ashaanta failio,"GOD SEES THE TRUTH BUT WAITS" Darjeeling matra hoina dherai thau Nepal ko cha india ma... yo yeuta satya ho ra basirako Darjeeling le identity magda dina yetro natak kasari Chor dhoti haru le hamro afno bhumi tarai lai alag parna socheko hola yo dekhda indian jati lai maanai bata hate garchau hami. Tesmathi Darjeeling basi "we are indian proud to be indian ani we want Gorkhaland 're" lobharera dincha gorkhaland dhoti haru le. Ladne pani huncha ni tarika khukuri dekhaudai bhitra haldai😃😃😃😃khukuri ko bejat baru dhoti haru le gun dekhako pani cha thokeko pani cha tio thau ma real nepali bhako bhaye ahile samma Kati dhoti ko ragat le khukuri rangauthiou ...yee Darjeeling basi ho nepal lai reply garera kunai faida chaina kaata dhoti haru lai if you want your identity natra end the voilence harek Chora manchele chura lagayera hi,hi gara. neta haru afhu afhu leader banera afai ma jhagada dekhda pani thu janta haru bato ma ladi badi gardai thikkai,bichara tio budo budo manche haru lai police le piteko dekhda kasto mutu nai basla jasto hune,feri pani Darjeeling basi Nepal lai reply gardai thikka. latau ke bhut batau se nahi mante bhancha dhoti haru tesaile kaatnai parne ho tara Darjeeling ko thutuno matra raicha baliyo aath ta dhoti kai jasto uff. 😂😂😂😂
+Bajirao Peshwa kya hamesa kangra war bolta hai hum ne toh kabhi Nahi suna es War K bare me. Are bewakuf ye war Nahi chota sa conflict tha jab gorkhali logo ne Himanchal ke Raja Sansar chand ko 4 month tak bandi banaya tha Tab unho ne Maharaja Ranjeet Singh ko sopdiya tha.kyu ki gorkhali logo ko malum tha ki unko kuch Nahi mila usko bandi bananeke badh vi. kyu ki sikh log bohut margaye thee sansar chand ke karan se. kyu ki woh usko aajad Karna chahate they iske badle me sansar chand maharaja ranjit singh ko kangra deneka wada Kiya tha. lekin gorkhali logo ne usko aajad kardiya wo usko marr vi sakte thee, Kathmandu valley vi le ja sakte thee. Tab kya Sikh uha aate kyA.
agar british Goverment hota to ab tak ham Gorkha wo ka apna hak mil jata, lekin hamare India ke Goverment un logo se v bekar hai, hamari maang naye ke khelaf ha lekin baat banake idher udhar karke hamari maang ko anaye bana raha hai, wa r wa India ke goverment itna dil me khot rakhne wala to british goverment vi nahi thaa, hamari maang aur jab pahale kiya jata tha bharat chod maang me koi farak nahi hai, farak hai bas ham aapni alag state maang kar raha hu aur pahale pura desh ka tha, aur ek ush time british thaa jo hamesa sach aur naye ki kadar karta thaa issi liye bharat swatantra hoye, aur aaj aap log hai jo sach aur naye k kuch kadar nahi karte, iss liye ham log aaj tak naye k liye lad raha hu,,,, isi liye i love India but Indian goverment
Agar British government hota dn hum Indians ka namo nisa nhi hota, Pata nhi kis British k ghr ka toilet clean kr rahe hote. Nywys if u think urslf a real Indian dn plz do not say all dis, please don't be soo selfish, coz by seeing ur comment I feel lyk u r not acting lyk an Indian u want British government seriously! Wht is wrong wid u..
Indian goverment shud announce Gurkhland without any delay or any discuss more coz Gurkhas are indian and they shud give some freedom to live life fully freely
we never leave this demand in India,this gorkhaland must be free from the India,actually,this land is not a part of India,it clearify the history,this gorkhaland had submitted to India by the one leader whose name was Lendup Dorje,you can study details about it,we are actually Nepali,Indian government interfere us since 70/80 yrs ago,my full support to the gorkhaland people for the freedom of nation,please help us,we need your help to make success,,,true never defeated,go back Imdian thief,Indian you never did understand our contribution,,,funk you India,,,Long Live gorkhalanad,Nepali is our nationality
gorkha land is in west bengal present. see google. nepal is not only for gorkha. its for gorkha, tibbetan, lepcha, marwari, maithili,tharu, rajbanshi, bodo
gorkha is group of community which evolve before india n nepal borned from hindustan. donot mix community with natiinality. rajbanshi, bodo, tharu, lecha r found both in political nepal n india.
rajiv sarmah Research Dorjeling unrest: Here is a history of the Gorkhas and a lazy hamlet called Dorjeling The history of Dorjeling, The name Dorjeling comes from the Tibetan words, Dorje (thunderbolt) and Ling (place or land), meaning the land of the thunderbolt. The Nepali Gorkhaland Movement and the famous tea it produces is intermingled and to understand that one needs to travel three centuries back, when neither the borders were formed nor the nation-state. WRITTEN BY KRITIKA AGARWAL |Updated: June 20, 2017 1:39 Pm A group of Lepchas in Dorjeling. Dorjeling, was ‘discovered’ by Captain Lloyd and J.W. Grant in 1829 as a respite for the British from the tropical climate. This small town, under the shadows of Kunchendzonga range, also called the ‘old Gorkha Station’, then deserted by the original tribal inhabitants known as Lepchas and Limbus after the suppression of a rebellion, had less than 100 inhabitants. Dorjeling and its surrounding region shares a complex history with Bhutan, Nepal and Sikkim passing from one kingdom to another finally being annexed by the British empire in 1866. By the mid nineteenth century, the British were looking out for an alternative to tea trade in India since the export of tea from China was proving to be increasingly expensive. The opium war with China in the mid 1800s further added impetus to the need for finding a tea plantation region in India. The successful tea experiment in Dorjeling came as a boon to the British. Very soon, the quiet sanitarium town was converted into a bustling tea industry with about 170 tea gardens mushrooming. For this, the remaining locals were unwilling to carry out the arduous task of clearing forests, planting tea bushes, laying down railways tracks and building roads and other infrastructure. Caption: Tibetan and Bhutia coolies in Dorjeling. Dr Arthur Campbell, who became the first superintendent of Dorjeling in 1839, under the British, was transferred from Kathmandu to Dorjeling. It was under him the town started to prosper. Once the town started growing wealthier, the Lepchas who had taken refuge in Nepal, Sikkim and Bhutan returned to live there. A close liaison developed between Campbell and Jang Bhadur Rana, the Prime Minister of Nepal who had overthrown the existing king in Nepal in 1846. This caused further deterioration to the already distressed socio-economic condition of the inhabitants in Nepal, leading to huge scale migration to Dorjeling. Rumours floated in Nepal, “chiiya bagaan mah rupiya falencha, Chiiya ko Bot mein sun paucha. (In the tea plantations, money is spread everywhere, you can find gold in the core of the tea plantation).” Family-based labour migration was ensured to provide adequate reproduction of labour to work in the Plantation economy. Budhu bojju, an old woman, recalls the stories narrated by her grandparents about how the sardars enticed the people in Nepal with lucrative job offers in the Company Sehar and brought them to Dorjeling. “We have heard all this from our grandparents. They were searching for ‘coolies’ to work in the plantation as the British were running the Kaman (tea garden). In order to resolve the problem the goras would give the Sardars commission on getting labourers. The sardar smuggled ‘the coolies’ from pahar in the night time, through jungles, to the Sehar. My grandparents also came like that.” It is seen that most of these workers stayed longer than the predetermined period, not out of choice but because the system coerced them into taking debt which they could pay back only through more labour-time. Further, the unfavourable situation in Nepal constructively forced them to stay on and work. As said by sociologist Nitin verma, “the unwritten law in this district is that once a tea garden coolie, always a tea garden coolie.” These migrants found themselves living in the middle of remote, forested terrain where they were allowed little or no contact with local villagers. Flight was almost impossible due to the unfamiliarity of the terrain, coupled with bounties offered to hill people to track runaways with dogs. Over time though, Dorjeling became their home and their roots. A rigid segregation was maintained between the Nepali migrants in the hills and the migrants from Chota Nagpur plateau in the plains by the colonial rulers. The few Bengalis present in the hills were and have always been the ‘babus,’ the perceived elite who worked for the British and then the Indian government. The Marwaris came in as traders and have controlled most of the wealth. The Nepalese through time found themselves increasingly isolated and discriminated against. The demand for Gorkhaland has always found its support among the tea plantation workers. The Nepalese find themselves reduced to second class citizens, at the hands of these otherwise minuscule inhabitants. A certain amnesia prevails in the hills; the history of the Nepalese has been erased. With little to hold on to historically, the relationship with ‘maato’ (land) and the tea-bushes their ancestors planted, has grown stronger. Kipat (ownership of land by a community) and Maato (land) remain central to the movement. Maato ko andolan is still very powerful as it pulls in all the workers together. Slogans like, “Afno Maato bbhada Sddharta Sankar Roy thulo hoina!! Afno Maato Bhanda Ananda Pathak thulo hoina!! Afno Maato bhanda Dawa Narbula thulo hoina!! Bengalbata hamore Mato pharkaunu parcha!! (Neither Siddharth Shankar Ray nor Ananda Pathak nor Dawa Narbula - no one is greater than our homeland. Our homeland needs to be separated from Bengal)” echoed in the hills, each time the ethnic movement resurfaced. There were many others such slogans, which called for balidan for themaato, which inspired the workers who depended on their daily wages from the plantation to go on strikes as long as 40 days. As the fight for Gorkhaland finds a new impetus, simultaneously tea plantation workers raise their demands for a fairer share of wages. Under the ambit of Plantation Labour Act, 1951, they are paid a mere Rs 132.50 when the minimum wage of a non-skilled worker is Rs. 226, semi-skilled worker is Rs. 248 and a skilled worker is Rs. 273. Other clauses of Plantation Labour Act, 1951 is violated with impunity. Many plantations have closed down arbitrarily leaving several out of jobs and starving. Lack of employment is driving the young out of the town in search of opportunities, which remain limited and plagued by racial discrimination. Those who continue to stay struggle every day figuring out basic necessities such as water, healthcare and transport.
rajiv sarmah The name Dorjeling comes from the Tibetan words, Dorje (thunderbolt) and Ling (place or land), meaning the land of the thunderbolt. The Nepali Gorkhaland Movement and the famous tea it produces is intermingled and to understand that one needs to travel three centuries back, when neither the borders were formed nor the nation-state. WRITTEN BY KRITIKA AGARWAL|Updated: June 20, 2017 1:39 Pm A group of Lepchas in Dorjeling. Dorjeling, was ‘discovered’ by Captain Lloyd and J.W. Grant in 1829 as a respite for the British from the tropical climate. This small town, under the shadows of Kunchendzonga range, also called the ‘old Gorkha Station’, then deserted by the original tribal inhabitants known as Lepchas and Limbus after the suppression of a rebellion, had less than 100 inhabitants. Dorjeling and its surrounding region shares a complex history with Bhutan, Nepal and Sikkim passing from one kingdom to another finally being annexed by the British empire in 1866. By the mid nineteenth century, the British were looking out for an alternative to tea trade in India since the export of tea from China was proving to be increasingly expensive. The opium war with China in the mid 1800s further added impetus to the need for finding a tea plantation region in India. The successful tea experiment in Dorjeling came as a boon to the British. Very soon, the quiet sanitarium town was converted into a bustling tea industry with about 170 tea gardens mushrooming. For this, the remaining locals were unwilling to carry out the arduous task of clearing forests, planting tea bushes, laying down railways tracks and building roads and other infrastructure. Caption: Tibetan and Bhutia coolies in Dorjeling. Dr Arthur Campbell, who became the first superintendent of Dorjeling in 1839, under the British, was transferred from Kathmandu to Dorjeling. It was under him the town started to prosper. Once the town started growing wealthier, the Lepchas who had taken refuge in Nepal, Sikkim and Bhutan returned to live there. A close liaison developed between Campbell and Jang Bhadur Rana, the Prime Minister of Nepal who had overthrown the existing king in Nepal in 1846. This caused further deterioration to the already distressed socio-economic condition of the inhabitants in Nepal, leading to huge scale migration to Dorjeling. Rumours floated in Nepal, “chiiya bagaan mah rupiya falencha, Chiiya ko Bot mein sun paucha. (In the tea plantations, money is spread everywhere, you can find gold in the core of the tea plantation).” Family-based labour migration was ensured to provide adequate reproduction of labour to work in the Plantation economy. Budhu bojju, an old woman, recalls the stories narrated by her grandparents about how the sardars enticed the people in Nepal with lucrative job offers in the Company Sehar and brought them to Dorjeling. “We have heard all this from our grandparents. They were searching for ‘coolies’ to work in the plantation as the British were running the Kaman (tea garden). In order to resolve the problem the goras would give the Sardars commission on getting labourers. The sardar smuggled ‘the coolies’ from pahar in the night time, through jungles, to the Sehar. My grandparents also came like that.” It is seen that most of these workers stayed longer than the predetermined period, not out of choice but because the system coerced them into taking debt which they could pay back only through more labour-time. Further, the unfavourable situation in Nepal constructively forced them to stay on and work. As said by sociologist Nitin verma, “the unwritten law in this district is that once a tea garden coolie, always a tea garden coolie.” These migrants found themselves living in the middle of remote, forested terrain where they were allowed little or no contact with local villagers. Flight was almost impossible due to the unfamiliarity of the terrain, coupled with bounties offered to hill people to track runaways with dogs. Over time though, Dorjeling became their home and their roots. A rigid segregation was maintained between the Nepali migrants in the hills and the migrants from Chota Nagpur plateau in the plains by the colonial rulers. The few Bengalis present in the hills were and have always been the ‘babus,’ the perceived elite who worked for the British and then the Indian government. The Marwaris came in as traders and have controlled most of the wealth. The Nepalese through time found themselves increasingly isolated and discriminated against. The demand for Gorkhaland has always found its support among the tea plantation workers. The Nepalese find themselves reduced to second class citizens, at the hands of these otherwise minuscule inhabitants. A certain amnesia prevails in the hills; the history of the Nepalese has been erased. With little to hold on to historically, the relationship with ‘maato’ (land) and the tea-bushes their ancestors planted, has grown stronger. Kipat (ownership of land by a community) and Maato (land) remain central to the movement. Maato ko andolan is still very powerful as it pulls in all the workers together. Slogans like, “Afno Maato bbhada Sddharta Sankar Roy thulo hoina!! Afno Maato Bhanda Ananda Pathak thulo hoina!! Afno Maato bhanda Dawa Narbula thulo hoina!! Bengalbata hamore Mato pharkaunu parcha!! (Neither Siddharth Shankar Ray nor Ananda Pathak nor Dawa Narbula - no one is greater than our homeland. Our homeland needs to be separated from Bengal)” echoed in the hills, each time the ethnic movement resurfaced. There were many others such slogans, which called for balidan for themaato, which inspired the workers who depended on their daily wages from the plantation to go on strikes as long as 40 days. As the fight for Gorkhaland finds a new impetus, simultaneously tea plantation workers raise their demands for a fairer share of wages. Under the ambit of Plantation Labour Act, 1951, they are paid a mere Rs 132.50 when the minimum wage of a non-skilled worker is Rs. 226, semi-skilled worker is Rs. 248 and a skilled worker is Rs. 273. Other clauses of Plantation Labour Act, 1951 is violated with impunity. Many plantations have closed down arbitrarily leaving several out of jobs and starving. Lack of employment is driving the young out of the town in search of opportunities, which remain limited and plagued by racial discrimination. Those who continue to stay struggle every day figuring out basic necessities such as water, healthcare and transport.
Kritika agarwal is marwari who r biased to gorkha just like Bengali n other Indian. Read non politically writters like s. Cheterjee, s. Das on gorkha, Kirati Nepali, lepcha. Darjeeling actual name junruk bazar , a Limboo tribal name changed by tobbetan. Kanchanjhangha( tibbetan word ) actual name seseylungma ( a Limboo tribal word ) who r kirati Nepali tribe.
Not a democracy ending , but need to make right where the situation needs , no need for an land , but needs to make a right thing .. here's need education to understand for others..
i hope kiratis in assam sikkim and darjeeling unite and chase out indian and bengalis out of kiratdesh. nepal darjeeling assam sikkim was known as kiratdesh. still today we have bodo people in assam. Bodo people are also kiratis. In kirati bodo language they say "Ang Nwng khou mwjang mwnw" which means i love you.The Bodo people are the descendants of the ancient Kirat people. They are related to other Kirati group from Nepal namely the Rai, Limbu, Jirel, Dhimal and others. In ancient time, Assam was part of Kiratdesh. Kiratdesh is the land where early kiratas dwelt. This estate includes Entire Northern Eastern parts of India, including west bengal, Assam,Tripura, Arunachal Pradesh,Bihar,Nepal,Bhutan and some parts of Orissa. I urge all kiratis to unite and break free from India. Free Kiratdesh.
If you really want to analyze the viability of the small state then do cross verify the revenues of these area. These areas are entirely different then WB and the mind-set there. Having a separate state will make it more viable then with WB
First of all to TMC Leader, Gorkhaland was always in a request and demand since a century ago its not from now and sudden, Lack of development, facilities, unemployment are the reasons. The Bengal govt has always supressed our hilly brothers and sisters torture and try to dominate them, this is how the Gorkhaland was born. So as an Indian they must get seperate state. Secondly to BJP MP, we cannot just sympathize but you must considered our gorkhas brothers & sisters requirement and gives us separate state likewise 29 different states in india. Hope you know this when the war begins in the boarders than its our Gorkha brothers martyr in the borders. They protect you and 1.34 billion ppl in India, 70% soldeirs are Gorkhas in Indian Army, several Gorkha regiments, you must considered seriously and accept and agree for the Gorkhaland. Thridly to Ms Neera Chandhoke, which political dangerous you are talking about, when the Telagana demanded and finally seperated from Andhra Pradesh, when Jharkahnd seperated from Bihar and form different states, likewise 29 states has formed so far in India, now you are talking about Political dangerous, soverienty and etc, where were your Inward Looking, principles and Mission When India was divided into tiny groups and forms 29 states. When your principles and Mission could stop being divided Politically India and form states and how can you say its dangerous so and so GORKHALAND A SEPERATE STATE SHOULD FORM NOW..
Mamata is not welcoming any bangaldeshi in West Bengal it was CPM who ruled for 35 years brought all these in West Bengal okkk and u can't blame Mamta dude our prime minister Shri Narendra Modi ji has given thousands acre land to the people who came from Bangladesh and has also given indian citizenship.where were u at time when he was giving our land to bangaldeshi people and even citizenship.u people r not against something wht u r trying to portray u all are against a particular community that could not tolerable.live and let others live with peace and yes no is having the power to divide Darjeeling from West Bengal
No it does not....gorkhaland is for people who speak nepali living in darjeeling...its not about nepal...u and your ilk are responsible for nepals current state...racist anti madeshi..mahendrabadi
Robin subedi hello subediji... that,s what ndtv is all about....creating propagandas, dividing and creating hatred....ndtv is a corrupted news media.... ndtv=fake news
This the reason why darjeeling needs an educated leader who can atleast talk in media. Otherwise look at the so called educated leaders talking towards ours.
Darjaling was our Nepal now we all still understand that our people and our brothers that's our land ok Indian have to understand that before independence in that's time it was in Nepal ok pls read history of Asia ok tq
i am gorkha from Myanmar , why Indian police used gun and killed Gorkha ????? to protest peoples ???? call modi to clear quickly for Gorkhaland , jai gorkha land .
Why is Prashant Tamang on the show? He has no idea about the movement at all. Even Roshan Giri is not someone who should be there representing Gorkhaland. Better speakers should have been on the show. A lot of matter was left unsaid and the Gorkhaland issue predictably turned political which it should not have at all.
Why can’t we have it Bengali as a state language it’s a national language when Tamil is mandatory in TN then why can’t we u can take our identity but don’t suppress our language it’s our identity and pride
Is Roshan giri good representative for gorkhaland? I don't think so. after watching this debate I felt bad. People should send someone best like Dr. Harka Br. chhetri and Mahendra P lama on national level debate for gorkhaland. We need best representative for gorkhaland... not like giri sir ..
The anchors questions to Prashant Tamang were ridiculous. she asked how will creating a separate state make indian's less racist towards Nepali's in India. Completely off-topic and condescending.
तिमिहरु भरातिय हौ, किनकी सिमाको हिसाब ले पनि भारत मा पर्छ अनी नागरिकता पनि भारतीय तेसैले तिमिहरुले हाम्रो भाषा लाई आफ्नु भन्न पौदैन, अनि हाम्रो गोर्खा लाई, गोर्खा नेपालको हो अनी गोर्खाली, तिमिहरु दार्जीलिङ बासिलाई नेपाल र नेपाली हरु चाँही मन नपर्ने, अनी नाम र भाषा हाम्रो किन चहिने ?
It is very easy for the people like you to sit under the AC and play with people's feeling and I would like to say the NDTV news channel learn something from the Republic TV. If you want to show the real news collect the original peoples not the people who are together and they talk according to your plan. I am From Assam and I really support from my heart the demand of Gorkhaland. You just created a debate without any knowledge of why Gorkhas want Gorkhaland... Shame on you all you call yourself an Indian by insulting one community for the other. What do you know about the history? Please it's my urgent request don't hurt the wonded Gorkhas any more because they are also present in the borders protecting you. I would suggest you to support The Gorkhaland and try to know the pain of the Gorkha community...
my mom is gorkhali I was subject to severe racial abuse in my childhood which destroyed my childhood it is high time gorkhas seperate from Bengal and stop being enslaved by them, enough of racism..
@Anupam Roy--I can understand your Pain. There are many others like You.Many have Bengali Mothers and Non Bengali Fathers. You are not alone Brother. 🙏
When Sikkim was newly added to the India Union, Darjeeling was more developed than Gangtok. But now, if you happen to visit Gangtok and then Darjeeling, you'll see how much the curve of Darjeeling has come down in terms of development. This itself shows why Gorkhaland must be a separate state, besides the fact that it has Gorkhali people who have distinct cultural differences as compared to the rest of Bengal. Also, the new state is not going anywhere outside the nation. It will be within India, just that it will be a new, developed place, that's it. I don't think it's just on part of West Bengal government to keep holding Gorkhaland under its control just for the sake of it's greed over its beauty, tea industry and tourism. Gorkhalis have always loved their fellow countrymen, and have the same allegiance towards the nation; and this movement is NOT against our Bengali brethren or West Bengal in particular.
P.S. 1)The British had added the proposed 'Gorkhaland' region to Bengal only for administrative convenience.
2) It would be ignorant on your part to compare this movement with that of Kashmir, which is a disputed territory eversince 1947, and India, Pakistan and a fraction of the Kashmiris all claim it to be theirs. 'Gorkhaland', on the other hand was, is, and shall always be an integral part of India. The Gorkhas are just claiming their birth right.
Sikkim and Gorkhalnd should be merged, no need of new state
Gopi Nath this may be the optimum solution .....
NDTV only playing the true story other than media totally capture by MODI govt paid huge money to media owners...yeh hai aacheh din modi keh
then why not support separation of kashmir from india? same logic.
bro , people are educated and we know what we are doing we would like to get separate from WB NOT from india. Jai ho
its been 110yrs . Finally every one has seen wb attitute towards gorkhas. Jai hind jai gorkha
Yes. TMC just killed my North Bengal. I don't support breaking my state but I support development. But also a question stuck in my head what did Bimal Gurung did with all the money GTA got?? He looted Nepali and all my North bengal's friends.
Simple Punjab for Punjabis
Bihar for Bihar
Bengal for Bengali
Kashmir for Kashmir
Then why not Gorkhaland for Gorkhas .
Separation from Bengal
Demand for Gorkhaland is genuine and has a valid point, culture different, language different , has enough population to be a separate state, has a long history of their demand, Govt. should immediately step inn , and declare Gorkahaland a separate country
debojit dutta declare them different country bt never merge nd relate darjeeling nd its people wid my peace country Nepal..Gorkhaland is there in nepal already a historic place of nepal..Nepali from Nepal r real brave gorkhas these darjeeling People r not gorkhas they r cowards fake Just using our brave kings name from gorkha nd demanding gorkhaland to gain some attention... Infact they r not real gorkhas.. Real gorkhas r more in british army regiment nd few r in indian army regiment..darjeeling people r not gorkhas Just using our Nepals history nd demanding state named gorkhaland....we nepali from nepal r against it..either they rename their state as darjeeling land or whatever bt not gorkhaland bcoz gorkha nd gorkhalis belongs to Nepal nd only Nepal.. there can't b another gorkhaland in india.. if darjeeling People r proud indian then why don't they accept indian laws indian languages and rules? what do they want? what?
prasuna budhathoki , thanks for the reasonable & justified comments from the original Gorkha.
Whole Northeast States stands with Gorkhaland.
i am bengali
i support Gurkhaland, bangladesis must be driven out of Tribal areas
otherwise new Rohingya issue will create
Bainchood toder jonno Bangladesh haralam abar bengal o harabo. Bokachoda
When Urdu was about to impose on Bengali, they opposed. They came on the street. Why????????? because Bengali people love their language and they don't want any other languages to be imposed on them. Today, I ask Mamata Benezeee why you are imposing your language on others. As you love your language so do others. Because of this language issue , Bengali people separated from Pakistan and the map of Pakistan was changed. I think Mamata Benerzee wants to repeat the same history in Darjeeling.
I support Gorkhaland
when indian govt support madhesi to forming a new state in Nepal, why not It support Gorkha forming a State in India.....
Vishu Rana Do you have proof fool gorkhaland got support and non suppers here
Vishu Rana ,to form a new state ,there must be some criteria for complete state. I seem a small district like Darjeeling is not at all suitable to form a micro state.
Spread over 7,500 sq km, the proposed Gorkhaland state would be bigger than Goa and Sikkim
Basantakumar Ghosh talk about Goa if you really think Darjeeling is a small area
ho i agree
Long Live Gorkhaland!!
Very unfortunatly BJP govt. did not help and supported our mass crisis.
I´m from Nepal...
I'm proud to being neplese....
Gorkha land is in nepal...
so I support gorkhali...
evev if I have to sacrifice my life...
for the gorkhalese....
I am really dissapointed to see our spokes person unable to keep the valid point to counter the opposition and Prasant Tamang, is that we are called darwan is only the valid reason for formation of gorkhaland??? bull shit. There are many gorkha intellectual who can mute these opposition like harka bahadur, p.lama and many more.
viky kuda I agree with you..Deserving and knowledgeable people should be brought into these platforms.Morever , a strategic plan is needed, u need to be backed up with sufficient knowledge against your opposition.Next time be careful don't just let anyone take the platform
Deserving people should be getting a chance.
I am Bengali and totally against imposing Bengali to any other ethnic people. this will only increase hate. Lots of people learn Bengali at will, There is no need impose it on anyone. I think most of them can talk, then why to impose further and put them in identity threat, all nonsense I dont know why the intellectuals of kolkata are not speaking against it.
কেনো বাংলায় থাকে বাংলা শিখবেনা কেনো?? উত্তর প্রদেশে যে বাঙালী থাকে তাকে বাধ্যতামূলক ভাবে হিন্দি শিখতে হয়। সব রাজ্যে এই সিস্টেমই চলছে , বাঙালিরা বেশি ভদ্র বলে পেয়ে বসেছে!!
Thank you for Supporting .I am gorkha from Darjeeling and I found Bengali language sweet and nice so now I'm learning it but one should not impose their language on other.❤
Just like every Bengali speaking person is not Indian bcoz Bangladesh has more Bengali speaking population, Punjabi is spoken in Pakistan punjab province n Indian state of punjab,Tamil in sri Lanka n Tamil Nadu state, similarly it is our case, Nepali is among 22 official languages of india,n ya a small state is functioning,Goa is smaller than Gorkhaland area, Sikkim has less population than Gorkhaland state,n article 3 of Indian Constitution says a state is to be craved if two community faces their identity crisis,next time please ask this questions to the Indian government,Jai Hind,Jai Nepali language,Jai Gorkha🇮🇳
Goa is small state, Jharkhand is small state, then why not allow our demand Gorkhaland issue,, JAI GORKHA
Jackey Lamichane ,A state must not be formed on the basis of a community.
Jackey Lamichane ,A state must not be formed on the basis of a community.
Jackey Lamichane ,A state must not be formed on the basis of a community.
If today Nepalese demands for Gorkhaland then may be sometime in near future Bangladeshi residing in India will demand for a separate state in Assam.
Basically instead of making a separate state they can opt for Union Territory.
PooZaa Chettry
TMC is playing a big game with the sentiments of the community.
It is as simple to show sympathy for the initial time . With the passage of time it will become an agony and bitter heart feeling for their own country.
The people The Gorkhas who fought for us should be acknowledged but not in the sake of giving only Gorkhas as a separate land but to the whole Nepalese people who are serving for the country.
I will not say who is terrorist and who is not but now it is not the matter of concern rather it is the matter of saving cultural and ethnic identity..
CS: No Hatred Only Peace
Diwas Upadhyay Thanks a lot brother for improving my knowledge and mentality too. Take care.
Diwas Upadhyay u r idiot diwas.. timro soch sunera I thanks to god u r nt my frn..wat r u saying we all Nepalis who belong India..they jst speaking Nepali like English Hindi 👆 don't dare to say anything about us.. dimak chaina ta na bola okkkkkkkk
Darjeeling never belonged to India. Never. It was given as a gift by Chogyal of Sikkim to Britishers. It always was Nepali people's. They didn't come as migrants. That's their land. Such ignorant comment
Gorkhas deserve separate state. Freedom from Mamata Biwi and Bangladeshi illegal immigrants.
India cannot turn a blind eye to the genuine and justified demand for a separate province of #Gorkhaland . This demand is about 110 years old and long overdue justice must be delivered.
Mohua Iam very much impressed by whatever you have said. me being a residence of siliguri and currently passing through the situation in both the hills and plains cannot agree with you more. Just for the language issue demand for a seperate state is not a valid point. GTA chief bimal gurung has robbed both central and the state. In the name of development he has taken 1500cr but has given nothing to the people of hills. The roads are bad, there is no hospital, and no sign of any development in the past five years. In short he has digested all the money. I request ndtv to please do a research on GTA issue to let people of India know what GJM has done to the people of hills. Such corruption should not prevail. Once again very glad that we have such great speaker like mohua
We the people of darjeeling are very innocent and loyal hence these corrupted leaders always exploits us. I will stand for gorkhaland but not behind this leaders. Now they say that it has become peoples movement so we have to choose our own leaders. Most of this existing leaders think that they can play with us for their greed but now it wont be like that.
So guys lets not follow these leaders and we should not accept anything told by them. Now we need new leaders who does not represent any political party. jai gorkha jai gorkhaland..
Bahun innocent and loyal 😂
my mom is gorkhali I was subject to severe racial abuse in my childhood which destroyed my childhood it is high time gorkhas seperate from Bengal and stop being enslaved by them, enough of racism..leaders should stop fooling uneducated gullible gorkhas
Anupam Roy Do you want separate gorkha land state or separate country????plz tell me....
gorkhali ki nepali
Shweta ,.Indian constitution uses the term gorkha in different context..In India it is used for denote the Indian nepalis amd in nepal it is used in another context..So plz dont comment bcz i net you have no ideas of British empire rule and how it moulded the term gorkha in India.Gorkha is not an exclusive term for nepal (although the word came from nepal) .Ever heard of globalisation?Read wikipedia for more info of gorkha in India
Injustice against gorkhas
Mamta banarjee should be kicked off from the office
gorkhaland demand is to make a safe heaven for pakistan cause it is sharing border with nepal., sikkim, bangladesh... china is already making banker near sikkim border. India is already divided in the name of religion,caste etc. Is it not enough identity as 'Indian'. what a shame?
so merge ur bengal with orissa.
Completely ignoring the issue of Gorkhas makes me feel anti Indian.
cancerrai What? Gorkhaland as a state isn't viable at all . May be a union territory with a elected govt like a Puduchery
rajashekar reddy, Goa is smalled but its still a state. Sikkim population is less than Darjeeling but it is still a state. u people are always bias against us whenever it comes to our demand. We will take what is ours. I have always noticed this kind of bias against Northeast people and thats why most of the Northeast pple are asking for a seperate country. Is that what u want??
Plus don't say something which hasn't happened. I am so sure that if there will b Gorkhaland, it will b one of the richest state.
Mustang kina hepchan northeast ka Nepali lai sale partiality garne..nepalis hosh bhani sahe ma Nepali ban bujis..sala taile happera hepiyam hami.. gadha budhi ko raichas.. hissabadi Saram le dub mar papi.. aafnu daju bhai ko madad garnu chaina.. tara aago ma ghee halera salwane deshdrohi ho taaaaaa
I am with that movement! All the Best!
I get it....
In every area where people speak up for their rights the BJP government shut down internet and phone lines just like in Kashmir more recently.
Just listen @ 19:50 minutes
Applause for this ❤️ Guy.
Speaking for his people.
hamii sabai sansar bharii ka nepalii ek haw ek hunu prxa jai gorkha
Nima I Love vry good u r saying correct.. I agree wit u bro
Nepal ka halat dekha mc bc
ke ko gorkhaland? gorkhali ma fight garne gurung magar rai limbu khas thakuris haru ko afno chuttai bhasa ani culture cha ,gorkha land bhanera eutai ho bhanna mildaina..there are gorkhas in india, britain, france, singapore, hong kong and america too. to fight for one gorkha language and state in other country is foolish. Would britain or honkong give gorkhaland if they start a protest there too? Gorkhas are a group of soldiers from different ethnic backgrounds from Nepal who have their own language and culture for eg. gurung, magar, rai, limbu and khas chettri.. they are the main gurkhas and they have their own different language and culture. Yes nepali is the official language of Nepal but other gorkha soldiers' language is also official there, that means you have to fight for magar gurkhaland, gurung gorkha land, limbu gorkhaland , khas gorkha land etc..The best you can ask is for a separate state in India with a gorkhe feel not with a gorkha name which is not inclusive of all the ethnic groups. for eg.. pahad, darjeeling, dooar or himalaya..and that too politically. Protesting in streets is not going to solve ur problem. and don't forget the lepchas, bhutiyas, are they gorkhas too?
sahi ho
Janexhas.. kai navako.batthi..hami india Ko Gorkha haru Ko prob Ra history kei bujhako xhaina raisas..hawray ma batthi vayexhas..afnai manxhay haruko against ma..thukka.👎👎👎
Bengali Chauvinism , HINDI and HINDU Chauvinism........ dont impose any thing........
Darjeeling will never be part of West Bengal. Its like saying India to be part Pakistan..
cancerrai 😃😃😃😃
cance So what it would be? A new country to fulfill the day dream of Mr.Gurung as a prime minister?
Basantakumar Ghosh, yes if a new country, then why not. Its not like we came across to West Bengal. We did not cross the border but the border crossed us. If British was still ruling India, were you going to see yourself as British? If not British then why not British because India would have been part of Britian. During British rule, did British ever tell Indians that they came from another country?
English people live in Australia and in America. They just don't live in Britain itself. Sameway we will name it a different country. Between i m not a hypocrite like u. I will not take even an inch of land which is not mine and i will not let u take even an inch which is mine.
Even after 70 years of India's independence, u Indian fools try to always question our loyalty. Now it is time to think India's loyalty towards us. My family has shed more blood for India than u rudra dey have it in ur body. U people have only made us to re-think our loyalty. Frankly speaking now my loyalty is only towards Gorkhaland. If u r loyal to Gorkhaland, i will b loyal to u and if not buzz off.
Wb gov they made their own decisions n in hills only Nepali exist not Bengali n how we can accept Bengali language we are Nepali n we will only accept Nepali language n we sacrifice for India in world world n till now we are supporting we are not toys we are gorkhas n we want gorihaland
Prashant Tamang what ?????Even a kid can answer why a separate state is required.The problem of not being able to project these people are the main cause of the delay in separate state....
nepali rocks because everyone views matter
I'm Nepali but Roshan giri say we are different what do you think ? we nepali people are alien?
Edwin Ferrault the demand fr a separate state is okay, but the name shouldn't b gorkhaland
Vaibhav Kasaundhan it's not about name it's about leadership. they are not highly educated and experience they don't know how to represent in national media. how they will run their own state? think it.
Edwin Ferrault we all Nepalis who belong other country they r loyal bt who belong from Nepal they disrespect us bt it's OK we r educated people nt like them.. so had Bharat jai Nepal jai gorkhali
RB Rajput for your kind information , i don't think the people of Nepal disrespect (other country) Nepalese people , and loyalty shows by their honesty not by their education . Education change our mind ,makes aware from unknown things but it can't change our heart . When your friends n family need help does ur Education work . And I'm not agree with ur opinion too becoz myself I'm Nepali...Jai Nepal Jai gorkha ..
Yes, you are foreigners.
West Bengal already divided in 1947, wont be divided again
Haa Bangladesh banana hay tumlog ko
Ms. Mauah you may be a good speaker but that doesn't make you right. I condemn every word you uttered here.
JAI NEPAL 🇳🇵
Justice for gorkhaland,we want freedom
If Gorkhaland was to be discussed then they should have invited top Gorkha leaders in the debate for a real debate. Instead they debated the topic with all anti-Gorkhaland people in the debate ... This exposes their biased journalism. Shame on you NDTV!
I'm so impressed as a Pakistani, these Indian women speak so well, such class. What a pretty anchor, that's rare in India. Whats her name ?
Mohammad Zamin , abe chutiye
Himalayan Culture 😅😅😅😅😆😆😆😆....
Why do Indians make fun of Pakistan.. .. he had write the positive thing ... its not his fault that is was born in pakistan .. and neither is his fault for these 2 counteries rivalry... its all done by the late peoples of both countries.. not by the these generation... WhY so cruel ??? Show some respect to all the nations in the world, PLEASE!!!(for people of both nations).
The more beautiful her voice is much poisonous her words are .....😡😡😡
Absolutely right comments . The CM of WB has done her best for her Gorkha brothers & sisters of Darjeeling . Depriving south she is trying to develop the hilly region.Unfortunately some power hungry traitors are misguiding common people using communal centiments to achieve their personal vested interest. It is the duty of common & reasonable minded people of the area to stay away from any type of destructive movement organized by those hooligans. Join Mamatadi for the development of Darjeeling for the interest of common people of the thanks to all.
Roshan Giri : you need to practice more in public speaking. Prashant bro stick to singing. All other Bengalis: Just Shut up n listen to Gorkhali voice.
Actually India was colonised by British. It is evident that the British invaded and occupied the territories of Nepal to extend the Indian colonial Empire. Nepal(which was then from Tista in the East to Satlaj in the West and nearly Ganga river in south)lost one third of its territory to east India company which include many places like Darjeeling, Sikkim, nainital, dehradun, almora and many more) by signing Sugauli Treaty which later turned to Indian territory as British left India. But NEPAL has a right to get back the ceded territories. Colonial Power, the British left India setting up new sovereign states that claimed sovereign statehood. Pakistan was one of them. After the demolition of colonial rule Goa which was colony of Portugal became part of India and the Hong-Kong which was part of China became a sovereign sate. Similarly, The sovereign people of Nepal have every right to claim the lost territory of former Nepal. All these people are not only fighting for the name of the state, they fighting for their identity of their own it belongs to them to Nepalese who are children of those brave Gurkhas who died protecting, saving and not letting somebody else to come to their land. They somehow couldn’t protect all of the land but it’s now our duty as a proud Nepali(Gorkhali) to protect, restrain our greater Nepal. Jai Nepal 🇳🇵
NDTV, please understand, there is much more than what is being discussed here in regards to Gorkhaland. Language barrier, developments in the hills, education, jobs etc. are some of the factors that is adding up to current situation over the period of over 100 years pending demand. There is an urgent need to give an identity to the Gorkha people. They have given their sweat and blood for the country but they are not given their due credit. They are being oppressed time and again by any government in West Bengal specifically and GOI in general. They need to come up and its a high time they are given an identity, the Gorkhaland. Centre should not shy away from this matter and ignore the pain of the Gorkha people. These people came with their land and West Bengal govt has nothing to do with Gorkhaland. Dajeeling area was put under West Bengal purely for administration purpose only and holds not history with these people and their land.
Gorkha is old name of Nepal and now Nepali in India are protesting for gorkhaland saying they are indian😂😂is this somekind of joke
Darjeeling is not the wb n Bengali they won't belong to Darjeeling we are Nepalis n we want our own land
jai gorkhaland, sorry to say but i realize that there should be more intellectual delegation from the hills.. looks like hills are playing underdogs and bengali politics is getting high again as earlier thanks
Nepal taking advantage of the decline of the Mughal rule invaded India in 18th century in Darjeeling, Sikkim, Kumaun, Himachal Pradesh, but the East India Company with the help of local kings of these areas drove them out. they came back when Stupid Nehru signed Indo-Nepal treaty in 1950, by which Nepalese can come to India without visa and can stay. Now these Nepalis are calling themselves as Gurkhas and demanding a separate state.
b.c
The narrative is simple. While the erstwhile independent kingdom of sikkim existed so did the kingdom of Limbuwan.
Limbuwan was an autonomous region that paid a tax of one horse per year to the Hindu King of Nepal and was promised help in case of war and had to promise to help the Hindupati in case of war with men and weapons.
Sikkim had its own issues with Limbuwan and one day war broke out betweed the two kingdoms . True to the agreement the Hindu king helped with money and men and Silkim was faced with defeat so they turned to the East India Company for help and East India Company helped Sikkim win the war. The terrorities of Limbuwan was annexed and the British leased the land from the Sikkim Raja to grow tea n build a place to recoup n recover.
Later when India got her independence Sikkim stayed silent about the territories they had leased out .
When the State Reorganizatiin Committee (in 1953/7) was comissioned to make the map of India the same tract of land was deemed as "tribal land" and it was merged with the state of Bengal "FOR ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES".
Then the Govt of India also forgot about this bit ofvland as the young nation had other pressing matters in hand.
The indegenous people who lived in those tracts of land fell victim to harrasment and exploitation by the Bengal Govt who basically excluded them from almost everything including fudging the population census that shows even today that the people didnt exist. Denied basic human rights on their own land and denied their iwn history the people were subjected to racism and excluded from self governance. To make their claims stronger the West Bengal Govt cleverly used the word "Nepali" to mean that the people came from Nepal hence they were forigeners.
The people were forced to give up their ethnic name and re name themselves as " Indian Gorkhas " a title that the fortunate citizens of Nepal condemmn the people of Darrjeeling to have "stolen" from them ....not even trying to understand how or why the people here had to face to come to that situation where we were outcasts .
In Nepal we were called Darjilingays and Dhotis meaningbwe were looked down for our Indian nationality. In India we were "Nepalis" or forigeners ...... Kehata ha na Hindi mei... Dhobi ka kutta na ghar ka na ghat ka.
Imagine such treatment being borne in silence for years and years. Finally in 1986 Shri Subash Ghishing lead the movement for Gorkhaland because we needed an identity and basic human rights.
Bengal Govt fought back and politicised the movement with 99 percent of Bengalis not having the faintest idea of the history of the land. Politicans kept the narrative Bengal was not to be divided again and all that political retoric. Imagine claiming ownership of a land that has names of villages and hills and townships in the tribal dialect and not even "Nepali language" that is the common link language of a group of people with our own languages and culture.
The tibetian refugees that were settled here is another angle altogether.
So here we are strangers on our own land being asked to prove our loyalty to our Nation and being asked to go back to Nepal. while our neighbours and brothers n sisters of Nepal call us Thieves for "STEALING" the GORKHA title.
The Government of Bengal insisting a piece of land that has names like Mirik and Kalimpong n Kharsang and Libang Sitrabung Pulungdung Lahring n Seering and Singringtam and manaebhyanjang as a part of Bengal when i am pretty sure they dont even know in which language these places have been named and yes these places existed before n during the East India Company. The British unfortunately rechristened a few teastates so we have a Bannokburn and Marylbone and Magrets hope as well but we can tell its the Brits who christened the place.
The Tibetian refugees who settled here under the blessings of the Congress have caused enough damage to the ethnic fabric along with being aided by the Govt to help them have control over most of the Govt jobs so that the Govt population census or anything related to us written down as record cannot be trusted.... Glaring example of the number of "official numbers "of death according to the Bengal Govt during the 1986 Agitation for Gorkhaland to the real figures put up by families that lost their dear ones.
Lallantop is welcome to walk into the govt offices to check this claim .just any independent reporter is welcome to walk into the govt run places and see the numbers of Gorkha officials and the numbers of non Gorkha officials holding top posts here in Darjeeling and then we can have a discussion on fair representation.
During the struggle for Independence the right to self rule was a birthright but in a democratic India asking for the same right as a citizen of this Nation has landen a huge number of our people in jail and faced with trumped up charges in 2017.
We still wait for justice from our Motherland.
Jai Bharat Jai Gorkha Jai Gorkhaland. 🙏🙏🙏
PS please copy paste this before it gets reported abd deleted because TH-cam generally cant handle the truth.
While most people sympathise with gorkha people but practically it is not possible due to geography of Darjeeling and also economic factors. Also in Darjeeling there are significant non-gorkha tribes who do not want to come under gorkhas as that will reduce their power in the hills.
please ask Tamang to sing a song.
I don't understand this is such a sensitive issue but then also apart from eastern state no other part of India is giving this issue all the attention it requires. I have made video regarding this in hindi but there are no views I.e hindi speaking population is not showing any kind of interest in this issue. I hope people find some kind of solution to the Gorkhaland issue before it's too late.
she spoke like she had memorized the script
Is an aspiration only the reason for Darjeeling People to demand Gorkhaland?Mr Giri just said ''It is a public demand and aspiration''.Our Nepali spokesperson did not express the main issues that the Hill people are actually facing.The Non-Nepali people(audience) said rightly and talked about the poverty n all...The major issues,problems and the valid reasons for demanding Gorkhaland should be specific and should reach to the center.They should see the actual reasons for demanding Gorkhaland,we should not seek this sympathetically.
Not a single one is talking about the main reason behind the rejection of gorkhaland. It's the *"chicken-neck"* factor that's why it's impossible to create gorkhaland. It's not a political propaganda it's a administrative problem
Separatists will fail... Bengal will never be divided again. Joy Bangla !!
Dipanjan Choudhury joy bongla tori moi ki chut sale bongoli kukur.gorkhaland wont be shared..joy gorkha
joy bangla
nrc.....should be implement in all over india,s expel bangdeshi from India,s love u from mizoram
Dargeeling was always the part of Bengal and will always be a part of it , the gorkha Nepalese people had been brought to this place by Britishers, since then they have formed majority in the area
Lund ho kya tum chutmarani....Abe jhatu pura north bengal hi bengal ka part nahi tha gandu tumko kuch ata pata bhi hai bokachoda bal chira
NDTV what are you trying to prove by bringing an Indian Idol winner in a debate infront of such polished speakers? Its like bringing Mamata Banerjee to debate with the students of Jadavpur university.
We dont want to be called as Indian... we are gorkha and thats it
Guys dont break our country...I know its a different culture in the the Hills and the rest of the West Bengal..If we consider a seperate state ..that will be a precedence for other groups in the country..
Gorkhaland will remain in India. It's just a separate state
Lepcha (Rongkup) and Yakthung (limboo/Tsong) are original inhabitant of these lands. They speak Lepcha and Yakthung languages, and have their own distinct Script, cultures, traditions, and ethnicity and religions. They follow their Matriarchal religions and worship nature and believe female sovereign gods. They are not Gorkha or ethnic nepali, thus why they are demanding gorkhaland, it has no historical aspects. They must ask in the name of something that related to Lepcha and Yakthung and other indigenous tribes. And related to Lho-Men-Tsong sum as previously these land were part of Sikkim.
People need very deep critical research there.
Hope indigenous tribes get their historical rights 🥰❤😇
But limboo is nepali ldont know lepcha is who??but found in ellam in nepal. U want divide our community whole gorkha or nepali people are mixing with khash and mangol enough ur suggestions.
Mahua ji u saw da municipal elections mandate ndTV shld shw her recent mandate on gorkhalnd issue in mirik itself the same people who voted fr TMC came to the streets against them voices are united for gorkhaland
We want Gorkhaland.
Roshan Giri and Prashant Tamang are a joke.
Right bro. Need good debaters.
yes they are!
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Tbh no good deserving Gorkha representative is here ,They are not being to express fully ,the dire need of separate state ,a good speaker should have went .They don’t understand this level of complex English fully ,We Darjeeling people should pick a wise intellectual leader who can speak and express best reasons as why we need Gorkhaland .It’s national tv and see Roshan giris explanation ,he should be able to point strong drawbacks of TMC and strong points to the need of Gorkhaland .Could have mentioned ,unemployment for Nepalis , racism in west Bengal regarding Nepalis ,The sacrifice of Gorkhas ,the loyalty, the utmost need of Gorkhaland .
times now is better than ndtv
DIVIDING ALL THE STATE & MAKE REPUBLIC OF INDIA IS A AGENDA OF PAID MEDIA BY BJP LED GOVT .EVEN REPLUBLIC CHANNEL OPENS UNDER THE BENEFITED PAID JOURNALISTS.PLEASE DON'T TELL ABOUT DIVERSITY OF ANY STATE .EVERY STATES OF INDIA HAVE DIFFERENT CULTURAL DIVERSITY SO IF CULTURAL DIVERSITY BASED THEN NOBODY HAVE KNOWLEDGE HOW MANY PARTS INDIA WILL BE ! PLEASE DON'T TRY DIVIDE ANY STATE.
gorkhaland hoke rahega isko diniya ki koi bhi taqat gorkhaland ko nahi rok sakti
Saugat Rai Rokdiya Indian government ne, ab kia kare?
Shova Sharma koi baat nahi shova ji hum log to nahi ruke hena
Saugat Rai kab tak lade yaar ab agar nokari bhi gayi to kia khake lade yaar. 😂
indian sarkaar lai paap karako dhoti haru ko paap ko ghada fhutecha, hamro desh ma pasera hamro tarai lai uchalera gandagol gareko thio , sabai nepali milera bhut bhagaye jhai bhagaunu pareko thio aja tesko harek chettra ma ashaanta failio,"GOD SEES THE TRUTH BUT WAITS" Darjeeling matra hoina dherai thau Nepal ko cha india ma... yo yeuta satya ho ra basirako Darjeeling le identity magda dina yetro natak kasari Chor dhoti haru le hamro afno bhumi tarai lai alag parna socheko hola yo dekhda indian jati lai maanai bata hate garchau hami.
Tesmathi Darjeeling basi "we are indian proud to be indian ani we want Gorkhaland 're" lobharera dincha gorkhaland dhoti haru le. Ladne pani huncha ni tarika khukuri dekhaudai bhitra haldai😃😃😃😃khukuri ko bejat baru dhoti haru le gun dekhako pani cha thokeko pani cha tio thau ma real nepali bhako bhaye ahile samma Kati dhoti ko ragat le khukuri rangauthiou ...yee Darjeeling basi ho nepal lai reply garera kunai faida chaina kaata dhoti haru lai if you want your identity natra end the voilence harek Chora manchele chura lagayera hi,hi gara.
neta haru afhu afhu leader banera afai ma jhagada dekhda pani thu janta haru bato ma ladi badi gardai thikkai,bichara tio budo budo manche haru lai police le piteko dekhda kasto mutu nai basla jasto hune,feri pani Darjeeling basi Nepal lai reply gardai thikka. latau ke bhut batau se nahi mante bhancha dhoti haru tesaile kaatnai parne ho tara Darjeeling ko thutuno matra raicha baliyo aath ta dhoti kai jasto uff. 😂😂😂😂
+Bajirao Peshwa kya hamesa kangra war bolta hai hum ne toh kabhi Nahi suna es War K bare me. Are bewakuf ye war Nahi chota sa conflict tha jab gorkhali logo ne Himanchal ke Raja Sansar chand ko 4 month tak bandi banaya tha Tab unho ne Maharaja Ranjeet Singh ko sopdiya tha.kyu ki gorkhali logo ko malum tha ki unko kuch Nahi mila usko bandi bananeke badh vi. kyu ki sikh log bohut margaye thee sansar chand ke karan se. kyu ki woh usko aajad Karna chahate they iske badle me sansar chand maharaja ranjit singh ko kangra deneka wada Kiya tha. lekin gorkhali logo ne usko aajad kardiya wo usko marr vi sakte thee, Kathmandu valley vi le ja sakte thee. Tab kya Sikh uha aate kyA.
agar british Goverment hota to ab tak ham Gorkha wo ka apna hak mil jata, lekin hamare India ke Goverment un logo se v bekar hai, hamari maang naye ke khelaf ha lekin baat banake idher udhar karke hamari maang ko anaye bana raha hai, wa r wa India ke goverment itna dil me khot rakhne wala to british goverment vi nahi thaa, hamari maang aur jab pahale kiya jata tha bharat chod maang me koi farak nahi hai, farak hai bas ham aapni alag state maang kar raha hu aur pahale pura desh ka tha, aur ek ush time british thaa jo hamesa sach aur naye ki kadar karta thaa issi liye bharat swatantra hoye, aur aaj aap log hai jo sach aur naye k kuch kadar nahi karte, iss liye ham log aaj tak naye k liye lad raha hu,,,, isi liye i love India but Indian goverment
Agar British government hota dn hum Indians ka namo nisa nhi hota, Pata nhi kis British k ghr ka toilet clean kr rahe hote. Nywys if u think urslf a real Indian dn plz do not say all dis, please don't be soo selfish, coz by seeing ur comment I feel lyk u r not acting lyk an Indian u want British government seriously! Wht is wrong wid u..
Have faith in God gorkhaland agar applogoka hak ha dn u will get..
Oliviya Baroi thank you mam
Indian goverment shud announce Gurkhland without any delay or any discuss more coz Gurkhas are indian and they shud give some freedom to live life fully freely
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we never leave this demand in India,this gorkhaland must be free from the India,actually,this land is not a part of India,it clearify the history,this gorkhaland had submitted to India by the one leader whose name was Lendup Dorje,you can study details about it,we are actually Nepali,Indian government interfere us since 70/80 yrs ago,my full support to the gorkhaland people for the freedom of nation,please help us,we need your help to make success,,,true never defeated,go back Imdian thief,Indian you never did understand our contribution,,,funk you India,,,Long Live gorkhalanad,Nepali is our nationality
Gorkha Land Is in Nepal. not in India.
gorkha land is in west bengal present. see google. nepal is not only for gorkha. its for gorkha, tibbetan, lepcha, marwari, maithili,tharu, rajbanshi, bodo
Raja Dey , absolutely right. The original Gorkhaland means Nepal. Only power hungry Gurung's dream is to achieve GURUNG LAND ,in name of Gorkhaland.
Raja Dey it's not in Nepal dr....
There r 50 million indians in USA.. now call california ... uttarpradesh land
Hari Sob true... real gorkha is Nepal...
My God How can there be a Gorkha land in India. What is the meaning of Gorkha ? is it not Nepali ?
gorkha is group of community which evolve before india n nepal borned from hindustan. donot mix community with natiinality. rajbanshi, bodo, tharu, lecha r found both in political nepal n india.
rajiv sarmah Research Dorjeling unrest:
Here is a history of the Gorkhas and a lazy hamlet called Dorjeling The history of Dorjeling, The name Dorjeling comes from the Tibetan words, Dorje (thunderbolt) and Ling (place or land), meaning the land of the thunderbolt.
The Nepali Gorkhaland Movement and the famous tea it produces is intermingled and to understand that one needs to travel three centuries back, when neither the borders were formed nor the nation-state.
WRITTEN BY KRITIKA AGARWAL |Updated: June 20, 2017 1:39 Pm
A group of Lepchas in Dorjeling.
Dorjeling, was ‘discovered’ by Captain Lloyd and J.W. Grant in 1829 as a respite for the British from the tropical climate. This small town, under the shadows of Kunchendzonga range, also called the ‘old Gorkha Station’, then deserted by the original tribal inhabitants known as Lepchas and Limbus after the suppression of a rebellion, had less than 100 inhabitants. Dorjeling and its surrounding region shares a complex history with Bhutan, Nepal and Sikkim passing from one kingdom to another finally being annexed by the British empire in 1866.
By the mid nineteenth century, the British were looking out for an alternative to tea trade in India since the export of tea from China was proving to be increasingly expensive. The opium war with China in the mid 1800s further added impetus to the need for finding a tea plantation region in India. The successful tea experiment in Dorjeling came as a boon to the British. Very soon, the quiet sanitarium town was converted into a bustling tea industry with about 170 tea gardens mushrooming. For this, the remaining locals were unwilling to carry out the arduous task of clearing forests, planting tea bushes, laying down railways tracks and building roads and other infrastructure.
Caption: Tibetan and Bhutia coolies in Dorjeling.
Dr Arthur Campbell, who became the first superintendent of Dorjeling in 1839, under the British, was transferred from Kathmandu to Dorjeling. It was under him the town started to prosper. Once the town started growing wealthier, the Lepchas who had taken refuge in Nepal, Sikkim and Bhutan returned to live there. A close liaison developed between Campbell and Jang Bhadur Rana, the Prime Minister of Nepal who had overthrown the existing king in Nepal in 1846. This caused further deterioration to the already distressed socio-economic condition of the inhabitants in Nepal, leading to huge scale migration to Dorjeling. Rumours floated in Nepal, “chiiya bagaan mah rupiya falencha, Chiiya ko Bot mein sun paucha. (In the tea plantations, money is spread everywhere, you can find gold in the core of the tea plantation).” Family-based labour migration was ensured to provide adequate reproduction of labour to work in the Plantation economy.
Budhu bojju, an old woman, recalls the stories narrated by her grandparents about how the sardars enticed the people in Nepal with lucrative job offers in the Company Sehar and brought them to Dorjeling. “We have heard all this from our grandparents. They were searching for ‘coolies’ to work in the plantation as the British were running the Kaman (tea garden). In order to resolve the problem the goras would give the Sardars commission on getting labourers. The sardar smuggled ‘the coolies’ from pahar in the night time, through jungles, to the Sehar. My grandparents also came like that.”
It is seen that most of these workers stayed longer than the predetermined period, not out of choice but because the system coerced them into taking debt which they could pay back only through more labour-time. Further, the unfavourable situation in Nepal constructively forced them to stay on and work. As said by sociologist Nitin verma, “the unwritten law in this district is that once a tea garden coolie, always a tea garden coolie.” These migrants found themselves living in the middle of remote, forested terrain where they were allowed little or no contact with local villagers. Flight was almost impossible due to the unfamiliarity of the terrain, coupled with bounties offered to hill people to track runaways with dogs. Over time though, Dorjeling became their home and their roots.
A rigid segregation was maintained between the Nepali migrants in the hills and the migrants from Chota Nagpur plateau in the plains by the colonial rulers. The few Bengalis present in the hills were and have always been the ‘babus,’ the perceived elite who worked for the British and then the Indian government. The Marwaris came in as traders and have controlled most of the wealth. The Nepalese through time found themselves increasingly isolated and discriminated against.
The demand for Gorkhaland has always found its support among the tea plantation workers. The Nepalese find themselves reduced to second class citizens, at the hands of these otherwise minuscule inhabitants. A certain amnesia prevails in the hills; the history of the Nepalese has been erased. With little to hold on to historically, the relationship with ‘maato’ (land) and the tea-bushes their ancestors planted, has grown stronger.
Kipat (ownership of land by a community) and Maato (land) remain central to the movement. Maato ko andolan is still very powerful as it pulls in all the workers together. Slogans like, “Afno Maato bbhada Sddharta Sankar Roy thulo hoina!! Afno Maato Bhanda Ananda Pathak thulo hoina!! Afno Maato bhanda Dawa Narbula thulo hoina!! Bengalbata hamore Mato pharkaunu parcha!! (Neither Siddharth Shankar Ray nor Ananda Pathak nor Dawa Narbula - no one is greater than our homeland. Our homeland needs to be separated from Bengal)” echoed in the hills, each time the ethnic movement resurfaced. There were many others such slogans, which called for balidan for themaato, which inspired the workers who depended on their daily wages from the plantation to go on strikes as long as 40 days.
As the fight for Gorkhaland finds a new impetus, simultaneously tea plantation workers raise their demands for a fairer share of wages. Under the ambit of Plantation Labour Act, 1951, they are paid a mere Rs 132.50 when the minimum wage of a non-skilled worker is Rs. 226, semi-skilled worker is Rs. 248 and a skilled worker is Rs. 273. Other clauses of Plantation Labour Act, 1951 is violated with impunity. Many plantations have closed down arbitrarily leaving several out of jobs and starving. Lack of employment is driving the young out of the town in search of opportunities, which remain limited and plagued by racial discrimination. Those who continue to stay struggle every day figuring out basic necessities such as water, healthcare and transport.
rajiv sarmah The name Dorjeling comes from the Tibetan words, Dorje (thunderbolt) and Ling (place or land), meaning the land of the thunderbolt.
The Nepali Gorkhaland Movement and the famous tea it produces is intermingled and to understand that one needs to travel three centuries back, when neither the borders were formed nor the nation-state.
WRITTEN BY KRITIKA AGARWAL|Updated: June 20, 2017 1:39 Pm
A group of Lepchas in Dorjeling.
Dorjeling, was ‘discovered’ by Captain Lloyd and J.W. Grant in 1829 as a respite for the British from the tropical climate. This small town, under the shadows of Kunchendzonga range, also called the ‘old Gorkha Station’, then deserted by the original tribal inhabitants known as Lepchas and Limbus after the suppression of a rebellion, had less than 100 inhabitants. Dorjeling and its surrounding region shares a complex history with Bhutan, Nepal and Sikkim passing from one kingdom to another finally being annexed by the British empire in 1866.
By the mid nineteenth century, the British were looking out for an alternative to tea trade in India since the export of tea from China was proving to be increasingly expensive. The opium war with China in the mid 1800s further added impetus to the need for finding a tea plantation region in India. The successful tea experiment in Dorjeling came as a boon to the British. Very soon, the quiet sanitarium town was converted into a bustling tea industry with about 170 tea gardens mushrooming. For this, the remaining locals were unwilling to carry out the arduous task of clearing forests, planting tea bushes, laying down railways tracks and building roads and other infrastructure.
Caption: Tibetan and Bhutia coolies in Dorjeling.
Dr Arthur Campbell, who became the first superintendent of Dorjeling in 1839, under the British, was transferred from Kathmandu to Dorjeling. It was under him the town started to prosper. Once the town started growing wealthier, the Lepchas who had taken refuge in Nepal, Sikkim and Bhutan returned to live there. A close liaison developed between Campbell and Jang Bhadur Rana, the Prime Minister of Nepal who had overthrown the existing king in Nepal in 1846. This caused further deterioration to the already distressed socio-economic condition of the inhabitants in Nepal, leading to huge scale migration to Dorjeling. Rumours floated in Nepal, “chiiya bagaan mah rupiya falencha, Chiiya ko Bot mein sun paucha. (In the tea plantations, money is spread everywhere, you can find gold in the core of the tea plantation).” Family-based labour migration was ensured to provide adequate reproduction of labour to work in the Plantation economy.
Budhu bojju, an old woman, recalls the stories narrated by her grandparents about how the sardars enticed the people in Nepal with lucrative job offers in the Company Sehar and brought them to Dorjeling. “We have heard all this from our grandparents. They were searching for ‘coolies’ to work in the plantation as the British were running the Kaman (tea garden). In order to resolve the problem the goras would give the Sardars commission on getting labourers. The sardar smuggled ‘the coolies’ from pahar in the night time, through jungles, to the Sehar. My grandparents also came like that.”
It is seen that most of these workers stayed longer than the predetermined period, not out of choice but because the system coerced them into taking debt which they could pay back only through more labour-time. Further, the unfavourable situation in Nepal constructively forced them to stay on and work. As said by sociologist Nitin verma, “the unwritten law in this district is that once a tea garden coolie, always a tea garden coolie.” These migrants found themselves living in the middle of remote, forested terrain where they were allowed little or no contact with local villagers. Flight was almost impossible due to the unfamiliarity of the terrain, coupled with bounties offered to hill people to track runaways with dogs. Over time though, Dorjeling became their home and their roots.
A rigid segregation was maintained between the Nepali migrants in the hills and the migrants from Chota Nagpur plateau in the plains by the colonial rulers. The few Bengalis present in the hills were and have always been the ‘babus,’ the perceived elite who worked for the British and then the Indian government. The Marwaris came in as traders and have controlled most of the wealth. The Nepalese through time found themselves increasingly isolated and discriminated against.
The demand for Gorkhaland has always found its support among the tea plantation workers. The Nepalese find themselves reduced to second class citizens, at the hands of these otherwise minuscule inhabitants. A certain amnesia prevails in the hills; the history of the Nepalese has been erased. With little to hold on to historically, the relationship with ‘maato’ (land) and the tea-bushes their ancestors planted, has grown stronger.
Kipat (ownership of land by a community) and Maato (land) remain central to the movement. Maato ko andolan is still very powerful as it pulls in all the workers together. Slogans like, “Afno Maato bbhada Sddharta Sankar Roy thulo hoina!! Afno Maato Bhanda Ananda Pathak thulo hoina!! Afno Maato bhanda Dawa Narbula thulo hoina!! Bengalbata hamore Mato pharkaunu parcha!! (Neither Siddharth Shankar Ray nor Ananda Pathak nor Dawa Narbula - no one is greater than our homeland. Our homeland needs to be separated from Bengal)” echoed in the hills, each time the ethnic movement resurfaced. There were many others such slogans, which called for balidan for themaato, which inspired the workers who depended on their daily wages from the plantation to go on strikes as long as 40 days.
As the fight for Gorkhaland finds a new impetus, simultaneously tea plantation workers raise their demands for a fairer share of wages. Under the ambit of Plantation Labour Act, 1951, they are paid a mere Rs 132.50 when the minimum wage of a non-skilled worker is Rs. 226, semi-skilled worker is Rs. 248 and a skilled worker is Rs. 273. Other clauses of Plantation Labour Act, 1951 is violated with impunity. Many plantations have closed down arbitrarily leaving several out of jobs and starving. Lack of employment is driving the young out of the town in search of opportunities, which remain limited and plagued by racial discrimination. Those who continue to stay struggle every day figuring out basic necessities such as water, healthcare and transport.
Kritika agarwal is marwari who r biased to gorkha just like Bengali n other Indian. Read non politically writters like s. Cheterjee, s. Das on gorkha, Kirati Nepali, lepcha. Darjeeling actual name junruk bazar , a Limboo tribal name changed by tobbetan. Kanchanjhangha( tibbetan word ) actual name seseylungma ( a Limboo tribal word ) who r kirati Nepali tribe.
Not a democracy ending , but need to make right where the situation needs , no need for an land , but needs to make a right thing .. here's need education to understand for others..
i hope kiratis in assam sikkim and darjeeling unite and chase out indian and bengalis out of kiratdesh.
nepal darjeeling assam sikkim was known as kiratdesh. still today we have bodo people in assam. Bodo people are also kiratis. In kirati bodo language they say "Ang Nwng khou mwjang mwnw" which means i love you.The Bodo people are the descendants of the ancient Kirat people. They are related to other Kirati group from Nepal namely the Rai, Limbu, Jirel, Dhimal and others. In ancient time, Assam was part of Kiratdesh. Kiratdesh is the land where early kiratas dwelt. This estate includes Entire Northern Eastern parts of India, including west bengal, Assam,Tripura, Arunachal Pradesh,Bihar,Nepal,Bhutan and some parts of Orissa. I urge all kiratis to unite and break free from India. Free Kiratdesh.
chup laag rara
If you really want to analyze the viability of the small state then do cross verify the revenues of these area. These areas are entirely different then WB and the mind-set there. Having a separate state will make it more viable then with WB
First of all to TMC Leader, Gorkhaland was always in a request and demand since a century ago its not from now and sudden, Lack of development, facilities, unemployment are the reasons. The Bengal govt has always supressed our hilly brothers and sisters torture and try to dominate them, this is how the Gorkhaland was born. So as an Indian they must get seperate state.
Secondly to BJP MP, we cannot just sympathize but you must considered our gorkhas brothers & sisters requirement and gives us separate state likewise 29 different states in india. Hope you know this when the war begins in the boarders than its our Gorkha brothers martyr in the borders. They protect you and 1.34 billion ppl in India, 70% soldeirs are Gorkhas in Indian Army, several Gorkha regiments, you must considered seriously and accept and agree for the Gorkhaland.
Thridly to Ms Neera Chandhoke, which political dangerous you are talking about, when the Telagana demanded and finally seperated from Andhra Pradesh, when Jharkahnd seperated from Bihar and form different states, likewise 29 states has formed so far in India, now you are talking about
Political dangerous, soverienty and etc, where were your Inward Looking, principles and Mission When India was divided into tiny groups and forms 29 states. When your principles and Mission could stop being divided Politically India and form states and how can you say its dangerous so and so
GORKHALAND A SEPERATE STATE SHOULD FORM NOW..
same like Telengana Gurkhaland shud b announce so soon coz the nepali speaking ghurka brother and sisters are patriotic indians
Mamata is not welcoming any bangaldeshi in West Bengal it was CPM who ruled for 35 years brought all these in West Bengal okkk and u can't blame Mamta dude our prime minister Shri Narendra Modi ji has given thousands acre land to the people who came from Bangladesh and has also given indian citizenship.where were u at time when he was giving our land to bangaldeshi people and even citizenship.u people r not against something wht u r trying to portray u all are against a particular community that could not tolerable.live and let others live with peace and yes no is having the power to divide Darjeeling from West Bengal
All Nepali bro form Nepal ,,this is problem for India not our so pls not we're not involved this mater and any comments ...
Use darjelling land or better dhotiland..gorkha chahiyo re chor lai
gorkha is in Nepal then why the dargellinger want gorkhaland? due to this identity of nepal identity comes in danger..
No it does not....gorkhaland is for people who speak nepali living in darjeeling...its not about nepal...u and your ilk are responsible for nepals current state...racist anti madeshi..mahendrabadi
Nepal has a district.Slogan shouting outsiders may go there .
Why Prashant Tamang and Roshan giri???
yup bro... they should have called someone better who are good for debate
Robin subedi
hello subediji...
that,s what ndtv is all about....creating propagandas, dividing and creating hatred....ndtv is a corrupted news media....
ndtv=fake news
This the reason why darjeeling needs an educated leader who can atleast talk in media. Otherwise look at the so called educated leaders talking towards ours.
How about merging Darjeeling with Sikkim?
Why not part of Sikkim?
Mohua Mitra destroyed Giri. Hahahaha. A better representative from the GJM was needed. Literally feel sorry for Giri
Indians ko communism ko support karna chahiye . Only communists can unite india, democracy has divided nation on basis of caste, community , religion
Darjaling was our Nepal now we all still understand that our people and our brothers that's our land ok Indian have to understand that before independence in that's time it was in Nepal ok pls read history of Asia ok tq
i am gorkha from Myanmar , why Indian police used gun and killed Gorkha ????? to protest peoples ???? call modi to clear quickly for Gorkhaland , jai gorkha land .
Why is Prashant Tamang on the show? He has no idea about the movement at all. Even Roshan Giri is not someone who should be there representing Gorkhaland. Better speakers should have been on the show. A lot of matter was left unsaid and the Gorkhaland issue predictably turned political which it should not have at all.
Why can’t we have it Bengali as a state language it’s a national language when Tamil is mandatory in TN then why can’t we u can take our identity but don’t suppress our language it’s our identity and pride
support gorkhaland
Is Roshan giri good representative for gorkhaland? I don't think so. after watching this debate I felt bad. People should send someone best like Dr. Harka Br. chhetri and Mahendra P lama on national level debate for gorkhaland. We need best representative for gorkhaland... not like giri sir
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The anchors questions to Prashant Tamang were ridiculous. she asked how will creating a separate state make indian's less racist towards Nepali's in India. Completely off-topic and condescending.
It's the job of these race baiters. Anchors never make sense anyway.
Milind Umesh Amen. Unfortunately, the people representing the pro Gorkhland movement on this panel are just incompetent.
तिमिहरु भरातिय हौ, किनकी सिमाको हिसाब ले पनि भारत मा पर्छ अनी नागरिकता पनि भारतीय तेसैले तिमिहरुले हाम्रो भाषा लाई आफ्नु भन्न पौदैन, अनि हाम्रो गोर्खा लाई, गोर्खा नेपालको हो अनी गोर्खाली, तिमिहरु दार्जीलिङ बासिलाई नेपाल र नेपाली हरु चाँही मन नपर्ने, अनी नाम र भाषा हाम्रो किन चहिने ?
Free Gorkhaland.
Mahua Mitra ma'am u look educated. pls use your intuition . I hope u sleep well
JAI GORKHA JAI NEPAL support from nepal 🇳🇵
It is very easy for the people like you to sit under the AC and play with people's feeling and I would like to say the NDTV news channel learn something from the Republic TV. If you want to show the real news collect the original peoples not the people who are together and they talk according to your plan. I am From Assam and I really support from my heart the demand of Gorkhaland. You just created a debate without any knowledge of why Gorkhas want Gorkhaland... Shame on you all you call yourself an Indian by insulting one community for the other. What do you know about the history? Please it's my urgent request don't hurt the wonded Gorkhas any more because they are also present in the borders protecting you. I would suggest you to support The Gorkhaland and try to know the pain of the Gorkha community...