I saw this comment before the the video started so I was like “Oh? I wonder how he’s dressed” and then the boys appeared and absolutely lost my shit when it finally clicked
The cult Drew was referring to is the "Heavens Gate" cult. Aside from all the Satan, aliens, and offing themselves stuff. They were actually incredibly skilled web designers in the early days of the internet. ~The more you know~
And one of them is still running their website to this day. You can go on their website right now and see it if you want to. Maybe you could even contact the last surviving member that was chosen to stay alive to keep the website going.
@@kyriakos232 Except that you have a very anemic, particularly modern, Western understanding of what Christianity teaches about soteriology and eschatology. In traditional Christian theology, salvation is theosis, man's deification by grace. The Prophet Daniel says the righteous will live everlastingly and shine like the stars forever (Daniel 12:1-3), Christ Jesus says we will be like the angels in that we will never die again (Luke 20:34-36), the Apostle Peter says we are being made partakers of the divine nature (2 Peter 1:4), and the Apostle Paul and Christ Jesus say that the faithful do now and in the future will sit with Christ on the Father's throne in the heavens (Ephesians 2:4-7; Revelation 3:21). Scriptural, traditional Christian soteriology and eschatology do not teach that we die, fly off to an ethereal heaven, and boringly float around with harps in an endless sky-blue void with clouds forever. Rather, the Eschaton is a renewal, recreation, and glorification of the whole cosmos (Acts 3:18-21; 2 Peter 3:1-13), whereby the physical, mortal cosmos is purified, glorified, and joined with the spiritual cosmos (Revelation 21:1-8). All human beings will be raised in glorified physical bodies (1 Corinthians 15). Our bodies, like Christ's own resurrection body (who, after his resurrection, could cook and eat, but also could appear out of thin air in a locked room) will at once be like and unlike the one we possess now, and will at once be familiar and unfamiliar (like how Jesus could go unknown and unperceived as himself by the disciples who knew him prior to his dead, until he chose to be perceived and opened their eyes to recognize him). And so the glorified Eschatological cosmos-which will be suffused with the uncreated energies of God (1 Corinthians 15:28; Colossians 1:9-20)-will at once be like and unlike the cosmos we know now, familiar and unfamiliar. It will be a similar but completely renewed and perfected universe in which there will no longer be death, decay, corruption, cruelty, etc. And then, of course, there will also be the eternally incomprehensible God, with whom we will be in intimate communion and fellowship. Consider the vastness of the universe itself, and how we have barely even begun to explore, know, and understand it. And it has its limits. Then consider that there is an eternal and infinite (limitless) God who created that universe, and that he desires communion and fellowship with us. If it has taken us this long to explore and discover what little we do know of the universe we presently have, and each new discovery and advancement we make is hailed with such ecstatic joy and enthusiasm, how much more joy and enthusiasm will we have exploring and discovering new things about the perfected and glorified cosmos, and especially about the eternal God who renewed and perfected it? Basically, think of the whole human experience, remove all evil, pain, suffering, and death, leaving only the good, the beautiful, the joyous, the wondrous, etc. Then magnify those things by infinity, waiting to be experienced by deified humans in true and perfect fellowship with their God who loves them. That is the Christian hope and expectation.
15:10-15:16 = Scott: "So what would you get if the Aetherial energy and everything met with a realm of Oblivion?" Meridia: **enters the chat and laughs in the Daedric Princes' faces**
@@thalmoragent9344 Precisely. And if we're honest, probably even Dibella. She is a deity of Man (Nordic and Reachmen), not Mer. So, though she is one of the Imperial Divines, she technically qualifies as a Daedra and not an Aedra, which are Elven classifications for those divinities that are "not our ancestors" and "our ancestors," respectively.
Thank you for all that you do. I am currently about to turn 14 and was very depressed about 2 years ago when I discovered Skyrim. Now I’ve played every game and I wouldn’t be alive if it wasn’t for the elder scrolls. I currently am the leader of a elder scrolls club in my middle school. I just wanted to tell you my story and say thank you for making this wonderful content.
Yo thats really great to hear. it's so cool that the elder scrolls was able to impact you in such a positive way. keep ur head up! I know what its like to be majorly depressed, that shit tears into your soul, but you're very strong to have made it through that :) Good thing you did because you have so much to look forward to! Hang in there ❤️
Life however great or mean, Is the one and true reward. Life is what you make it. And you have already shown to yourself that you can accomplish things. You can make something you love, in founding a club. And you are never alone, someone at your school feels exactly as you do. Not everyone can understand, it sucks when it's people you care for. I recommend the song "All that praises heaven slanders earth." By Blackbird Raum. On Spotify and TH-cam and the rest. Absorb the words. Internalize the message. It can be a bit existential. But It helped me. Best wishes.
The Mythic Dawn may not be a daedra cult. The Deadlands DLC introduces the idea that Dagon's cults are Magnus worshipers who will follow Dagon as Magnus' agent to unmake his flawed creation of Mundus.
I could see the 2 being entwined together at times, although of course there are many who worship Dagon who aren't affiliated with Magnus, but there'd definitely a connection Lorkhan ruined everything, but Magnus still wants to put his 900 IQ to work and make what he and the other Et'Ada wanted to way back in the Dawn Era. Lorkhan placed his lies and then Magnus left his creation, unfinished and Tainted by too much Padomaic essence and not enough Anuic
The Aedra being lesser or weaker than the Daedra is a very common misconception. The Aedra gave up their personhood to embody the literal laws of physics of mundus itself. The Daedra, while keeping their personhood, can only influence Mundus from the outside, and are not only bound by the Aedra in the ammount and way they wish to influence Mundus, but require champions from Mundus in order to enact their wishes and manipulations. In that regard, the Daedra are infinitely more dependant and flawed, than the Aedra could ever be.
Yeah, I hate the constant "Aedra suck, Daedra are the true rulers" when you consider that the Aedra have a Realm that all the Daedra seem to want and feel interested in
@@thalmoragent9344 They *are* the realm, but yeah, I guess it's just easier to get hooked on an entity with a voice and (often very petty) agenda, than the martyr gods of Lorkhan's design. Nirn will continue without the presence or influence of Daedra, but remove one single Aedra and the entire thing will collapse.
@@MrYelly True, the Aedric Et'Ada, whether willing like the Atmoran Pantheon or unwilling like my poor Aldmeri Pantheon, or a mix of both like the Yokudan Pantheon, were all entwined and their Spheres are also part of the Mundus. Get rid of Auriel and Time shatters and is no longer there to keep Order and Structure to the Aurbus. Get rid of Lorkhan and the realm looses the Space and partly Mortality as well. No Magnus and a lot of Earthbones suddenly shift since he was the Architect of the place, etc. Lots to think about. But the Mer would rather just vibe in Aetherius understandably, since there's not much order to the place, and they're Old Ehlnofey, meaning more Anuic, and so on and so forth with Man being more Chaotic. But yeah, all Aedra, willing or lied too, far more important than the Daedra that only somewhat uphold the Spheres. Yes they can influence them well but if they're not there it only means less depth to whatever they embody. Some of them like Molag aren't needed at all, Meridia is helpful/can be useful, Vaermina is 50/50, Clavicus isn't needed unless you wanna trade something big, Sanguine is chill but Dibella is safer, etc
@@thalmoragent9344 From my understanding, the embodiment of the Daedra is not an act of creation, or inherent. They are not part of Mundus, after all. Mehrunes domain of change, chaos and progression would not be absent from Mundus, as these traits find their home in any heart, men or mer alike. Same for Vaermina, Molag, Sanguine and even Nocturnal. Daedra simply pull the strings that are already there, with their frustrations on that clumsy lack of aptitude and control. (Meridia especially so)
so a random question I have how many mythic dawn membrs were high elfs that could have escaped and returned to Summerset to infiltrate/change the Thalmor into what they become in skyrim
The Thalmor do share the Mythic Dawn's goal of unmaking Mundus. It is also not a stretch for Altmer Magnus worshipers to see Dagon as a creation/agent of the Magna Ge.
@@badluck5647 True. And Dagon has a lot of light to him, albeit often with fire as well. Pretty sure they could've been a pivotal point for all Anuic Mer everywhere
No, the Thalmor are directly opposed to the Mythic Dawn even if it doesn't seem like it at first. The main difference is their view of Lorkhan. While the Mythic Dawn venerate him the Thalmor despise him.
Hope is a powerful tool. For most people when they reach their goal from what they hoped for, they stop hoping. For a being that is the primordial sense of hope, it never will end. Like a hunger that cannot be satisfied. If Dagon had won the day instead of being thwarted, he would of eventually turned on his followers to overthrow them and it would be a continued cycle.
"Most ironic of all, was the last gift that Raziel had given me. More powerful than the sword that now held his soul, more acute even than the vision that his sacrifice had accorded me. The first, bitter taste of that terrible illusion: hope." - Kain
I love the Mythic Dawn, I have been working on some way to explore interpreting the Mythic Dawn Commentaries for awhile and it has led me down a lot of very interesting rabbitholes. Off the top of my head, there are a few additional things I would like to throw out there to add onto what you said. The most important thing is that y'all totally forgot to mention how important the Magna Ge are in the Mythic Dawn! Their pantheon goes beyond Lord Dagon and it seems that worship of the Magna Ge is part of the path to Paradise. "I give my soul to the Magna Ge, sayeth the joyous in Paradise, for they created Mehrunes the Razor in secret, in the very bowels of Lyg, the domain of the Upstart who vanishes." (Mythic Dawn Commentaries 3) and "But for it the Crusades would be as my lord's Creation, Get by the Ge and do as thou wilt, of no fetters but your own conscience! " (Mythic Dawn Commentaries 4) point to this. I know there isn't much to go on just with that about a specific pantheon, but there are other elements we can see that give evidence to how this manifested in worship and the significance if it. The use of a Great Weykland stone to open the gate to Paradise shows a ritual use of starlight for example, and given how the 4 items used relate to Oblivion (Great Sigil Stone and Daedra blood) and Aetherius (the Weykland stone and Aedra blood) and how chim and Nu-Mantia are intertwined in the Commentaries I would say that gives the impression that they are seeking to sort of go back up to the source before the dualities and such whose interplay creates that emanated chain of being that is the universe in the Elder Scrolls. Anyways, something else: the Ritual of Want is super interesting when you read into it. It's sort of like a baptism in the sense of a purification and rebirth sort of thing where you symbolically kill your old identity and become reborn as a Dagonite. There are symbolic references to the overthrow of Molag Bal and his murder that basically broke that kalpa with the use of dreugh hides and the incancation talking about breaking bones upon the rocks and all. So it is sort of can be seen like a microcosm of breaking the overall time cycle by first breaking from the personal cycles that you are attached to and emptying your mind to open up to pure revolutionary energy a la Dagon. You can't be working towards breaking time itself if you're all caught up with celebrating holidays or working at the forge or whatever. It also seemingly seems like you are basically symbolically becoming Ruma Camoran. He describes the ritual of want "as a birth watched by blackbirds", which alludes his first daughter who Mankar Camoran seemingly ate: "Falter now and become one with the wayside orphans that feed me. Follow and I shall adore you from inside. My first daughter ran from the Dagonite road. Her name was Ruma and I ate her with no bread, and made another, which learned, and I loved that one and blackbirds formed her twin behind all time." This idea of consuming something of impure for what is pure is also evoked in a more academic sense when discussing the aedra and connected with this idea of learning from your misteps to ascend. I am pretty sure basically this means you are sort of symbolically killing your old identity, in analogy to how Mankar killer and ate his daughter (maybe symbolically?), and then celebrating your rebirth as a Dagonite on the new Ruma's birthday. Pretty freaking metal. It also feels like "Raven Camoran" and the idea of the twin of blackbirds should be related, but I am not exactly sure how? I'll avoid going into the relationship to real life religous and philosophical ideas like thelema, buddhism, and egoist anarchism, or more of the interesting ideas in the Commentaries and the Ayleid connection, but yah honestly the Commentaries are kind of a masterpiece that I have been dissecting for a couple years now. My goal is to organize those ideas into a video and watching some videos on this channel has definitely helped me deepen my appreciation of the Elder Scrolls and gave me some insights on my favorite fictional new religious movement. Thanks a ton ✌
@@HeWhoComments To be fair if they gave you a sigil stone they'd have to come up with a satisfying reason you can't use it in the atronach forge or people would complain
This was THE most interesting conversation i have ever heard about the subject! I am shoulders deep in elderscrolls lore and I really really love it. I love you guys
What I live about the daedra is this implication that becoming daedric is to have a more physical presence than an aedra because all they are is unchecked ego. Their realm is all their ego their limitations and freedoms start and end with their ego. It might just be a game contrivance but I feel two daedric princes can't exist in the same oblivion realm or another's daedric realm because it is their own metaphysical mind. Except on nirn because right now it's like an open server with no real admin , cause the admin died but left his computer running forever next to a bunch of wierd kids with no internet at home
I don't know if you can have a more physical presence than becoming the essence of magic itself, like Julianos. Within mundus, he is present everywhere, at all times. Or to become time itself, like Akatosh. In comparison, the Daedra are a bunch of outsiders who are looking in through the windows, desperately praying they can have a seat at the table someday...Or at least knock the table over.
@@MrYelly it all depends on the intelligent life on nirn. Julianos and the aedra are more elemental spirits. Any expression of will or act taken is a result of a second party witnessing and molding the phenomenon around their perception(most time it's the observers will that is the catalyst for the phenomenonat all). Not having a physical body and desolation of the ego, that's their physical limitation. Daedra had a more spiritual limitation that affects their physical. This might also be contrivance for game mechanics, but i think with the more liberty the daedra have to move about nirn the more consistent their form to their choosing when they invade, but it depends on the image of what the local mental bandwidth perceives you as. It doesn't have as much power over the daedra as it does with aedra since their own will is there to essentially metabolize the incoming mental projection back into their core personality.
@@OgieSifter Sorry, but no. Aedra are not elemental spirits, they embody the laws of physics and the shape of mundus. Julianos is not an elemental spirit, he is the literal embodiment of magic. Every single Daedric artifact is dependant on his domain, or doomed to lose their effects, power and relation to their daedric prince. The only Aedra that could sort of be compared to an elemental spirit, would be Kynareth, as her domain literally entails all the elements. Daedra cannot "move about nirn (mundus)", as they are by very definition, not a part of nirn in any way. Looking in from the outside, they require mortal champions in order to influence or exert any type of manipulation or power within nirn. Just read up on the Dragonfires. Not a single Daedric prince can enter nirn by their own choice, or true form. In every case of a daedric invasion, the portals were opened by cultists, from the side of Nirn. (Battlespire) For example, without Arkay (the aedra that embodies the cycle of life and death, mortality in general) Neither Hircine nor Meridia would have been as invested with Mundus as they are now, as their entire domains are dependant on Arkay and his very creation (conception) of mortality. The entire joke is that Daedra mock the Aedra, while seething with nothing but envy, and the inherent wish to meddle with the world that they would never admit wanting to be a part of.
So if daedric princes are supposed to exist partially outside of time, and if Lorkhan let himself be killed to make Mundus the way it is now, then somewhere outside of time part of Lorkhan is still the daedric prince of Mundus and he's probably just chilling and watching Nirn like tv or something.
Pretty sure the heaven's gate cult the that believed in the comet taking them to their own realm, and the apocalyptic am shinrikyo helped inspire both the mythic dawn and the current motives for the aldmeri
That's what it was; the Heaven's Gate cult, during the visit of the Hale-Bopp comet. I remember that vividly but, for some reason, couldn't remember what it was called. Thank you.
Is there a video on Protonymic and Neonymic? Feels like an interesting discussion. Like do other beings besides daedra have Nymics? Is "Dovahkiin" a type of Nymic for the dragonborn? Etc Etc.
Dawn is Breaking! I love the feeling of this cult, and used some mods and ended up taking over the Mythic Dawn, became the Potentate and set the way for a new Mythic Era, in worship of the Prince of Destruction on an Empire-Wide level. I could literally kill people on the street and guards wouldn’t set a bounty, they would just come to wish me a good day.
Pretty sure the cult that the Simpsons parodied was the one that ended in the Jonestown massacre. Can't remember the name but the leaders gave the members poisoned cool-aid which then lead to the term "drinking the cool-aid". edit: The People's Temple cult
"Heavans Gate" is the one he was referring to. The thought the "hale-bop" comet that appeared in 1995 was a space ship that would take them to heaven, really creepy story. They all bought the same Nike shoes because the swoosh resembled a comet lol.
@@Papagiorgio153 apparently they also were all web designers in the early internet and one guy was chosen to stay behind and keep running the website which is still up today
I wouldn't be shocked if it turned out that some of the Altmer members of the Mythic Dawn managed to flee back to Alinor and join an early version of The Thalmor which they now use as a way to achieve unmaking Mundus. It's a stretch but The Thalmor do have Daedra worshippers in their ranks,like Lord Naarafin
One of the issues I really have with Elder Scrolls is that the mortals are always in a pretty severe disadvantage when it comes to the Daedra. Like here are these beings with near infinite power that randomly decide to ruin someones life and the only safeguard against them are the Divines who literally can't do much because they're too weak. I would like it if future games made it a bit more even.
It would make sense that Dagon might have directly inspired the potential goal of the Thalmor, Crystal Tower fell during the Oblivion Crisis and they could have designed their plans around what they saw there
What if instead of being born a god mehrunes was a mythic hero of lyg who toppled the dregs and the gods and he ascended to godhood. The same thing could apply to molag bal where he was a great mythic king but when the world reset both of them became gods.
for ep. 81, i think making my mod list and planning my character is more fun than actually playing skyrim. also, your channel and watching sorcerer dave's fathis ulven playthrough is also more enticing than playing TES myself. i dont think i've gotten above level 20 in my last ten playthroughs. Regardless, still love the series and fanaticize about the next one
The leader of the Mythic Dawn was an Altmer; his son and daughter were Altmer; the end of the Oblivion Crysis was followed by the Aldmeri Dominion advancing on the Imperial City... ... what if the Thalmor are, without openly been Dagon Worshippers, followers of the Mythic Dawn, now simply wanting to bring Paradise on Mundus instead of going to Paradise ?
I'm thinking about the whole Akatosh and Alduin thing... vs Dagon, it may just have been a natural response: the Dragonfires are lit and Dagon tries to invade = intervention. But with Alduin, I am wondering if Alduin deviating from his intended purpose (ruling rather than devouring) and Akatosh (or AKA) intervenes because Alduin needs a 'hard reset', or because Akatosh wants the kalpa to continue. Why just this one is anyone's guess.
Oblivion and Morrowind isn't working on xbox rn... they won't load up correctly. Is anyone else having this issue isn't been about a week now it won't load top to the main menu. :/
I feel like dagons plan in eso is basically the same as molag bals in the main story, just trying to merge mundus with his realm by using the 4 ambitions/ dark anchors
Yeah but they pretty much tried the same method but molag bal had physical anchors and Dagon had the 4 ambitions with a bit of his power in them to tether him to mundus or anchor him, atleast the court of bedlam was a bit more original
One thing that I always felt when I was playing through Oblivion is I was afraid that the mythic Dawn was actually correct and Tameril actually did belong to Dagon.
Actually, he is also the god of ambition and change; chaos and destruction are frequent side-products of change, but aren't the point. Reminds me of the way the Shadows were described in contrast to the Vorlons on Bablylon 5 - The Vorlons are like your parents who want to keep you safe and secure, follow the rules; the Shadows want you to go out in the galaxy and make a noise - break things (planets, etc.) if you need to in order to obtain your ends.
Drinking game for these podcasts? Take a shot every time Scott interrupts or tries to interrupt, Michael and Drew. Edit: maybe not so much this one, but definitely for the last one.
Here's a hot take for you: The Thalmor should win because tamriel ruled over by the dominion would be a really cool game setting where you can play as either an agent or a member of a resistance faction.
Its not that crazy to think that the dragon blood can be thinned out which is why there arent a bunch of potential dragon emperor heirs everywhere. Especially since as far as we know the Septims dont practice incest like real world royalty or Targaryns do. Also its not too insane to think that the Emperor had no siblings or uncles as even Tiber Septim only had one kid who then went on to only have one kid so its not that insane
Speaking of Dagon, can anyone help me find that fanart of Mehrunes depicted in what looks like Hindu or Buddhist style art being shown as a benevolent god to a crowd happily worshipping him? Fudgemuppet had that image in one of their videos but I can't find it
So to understand it correctly. Dagon is not Lorkhan. But Dagon, and his cult want to destroy Lorkhan's world because they don't think Lorkhan approves of in what state world is? Thats kinda dumb. From what i read up Lorkhan even defeated Dagon in elder scrolls 4 oblivion. Tiber Septim. Incarnation of Lorkhan. I think you misunderstood few things in the lore.
When I first began Oblivion I was so excited to get their weapon at the start of the game. I got pretty disappointed when I realized they were summoned
It cool as a spy "i got caught! Time to go out swinging!" But first playing it sucks as no one explains it to you and hands you like the worst weapons to escape
Despite being "Hope and Change" i think it a perfect cover cuz to make change, you often have to overthrow and spike the rulers which if you dont do things "right" your subjects may try it on you. If mundus broke all the princes would probably go do their own things. They are only powerful cuz they came around first and got alot of "power" stored up
The cult you thought might be real indeed was. They were called Heaven's Gate. They believed that the passing of a comet would bring them to paradise. If they committed suicide at the moment of its passing. I believe their website is still up.
The Eight betrayed Lorkhan, did they? Akatosh is Lorkhan/Shezarr so he dose not count, Arkay was once mortal and had nothing to do with Lorkhan, Dibella Sided with Lorkhan, Julianos Sided with Lorkhan as well, Kynareth his Wife sided with him, Mara his Concubine, Stendarr died for him, and Zenithar maybe?. Am i missing somthing? or do 90% of the Eight sided with Lorkhan and not against him.
Mehrunes Dragon is one of the most evil Daedra!!!!! Other evil Daedra are: Namira, Nocturnal, Vaermina, Boethiah, Peryite, and Mephala. My list of good-neutral Daedra are: Meridia, Azura, Sheogorath, Clavicus Vile, Hircine, Sanguine, Molag Bal, Hermeus Mora, Jyggalag, and Malacath. Also even though Sithis isn't a Daedra they are in the neutral morality zone to me.
Ever heard of the joke about High tech vs a Djinn? So it goes that Djinn use highly advanced tech when they do their stuff as "Making Gold" is just rearranging atoms, making someone have lovers is reorganizing women chemical structures and pretty all they do can be done if you had a souped up, unrestricted subnatica crafter basically. Despite being all "powerful" their influences are less impactful then a fart sometimes. To mortals it scary but the moment your peephole of reality opens up, it not that much.
Scott is looking grand and intoxicating today!
I just figured he took a trip to the face sculptor in the Ragged Flagon.
What a God. That's killer! I don't know how he manages it!
I saw this comment before the the video started so I was like “Oh? I wonder how he’s dressed” and then the boys appeared and absolutely lost my shit when it finally clicked
@@neotheresa
How could you be so naive?
Fire and war
The cult Drew was referring to is the "Heavens Gate" cult. Aside from all the Satan, aliens, and offing themselves stuff. They were actually incredibly skilled web designers in the early days of the internet.
~The more you know~
And one of them is still running their website to this day. You can go on their website right now and see it if you want to. Maybe you could even contact the last surviving member that was chosen to stay alive to keep the website going.
Cause like aum shinrikyo it attracted tech nerds and weebs
The brother of Nichelle Nichols (Uhara, ST:TOS) was one of the victims.
They also became vegan and removed their junk.
@@detectivewiggles Or they were a bunch of freaks...
You guys probably won't see this but I think doing a podcast about the Skaal and all maker would be really cool!!! Much love from Houston❤️
They saw 💀💀
@@flawless_Cowboy I know haha I’m so glad too cuz they just released the skaal podcast
"Mythic dawn, what will you do if Dagon ever does take over Tamriel?"
MD: "I don't know... I never actually thought I'd get that far. "
lolll true😂
Dogs chasing cars
@Redacted Radical "i wouldnt know what to do with one if I... CAUGHT IT!"
Let's be fair, neither does Christian consider what to do in heaven, or any eschatological religion on their afterlife for that matter.
@@kyriakos232 Except that you have a very anemic, particularly modern, Western understanding of what Christianity teaches about soteriology and eschatology. In traditional Christian theology, salvation is theosis, man's deification by grace. The Prophet Daniel says the righteous will live everlastingly and shine like the stars forever (Daniel 12:1-3), Christ Jesus says we will be like the angels in that we will never die again (Luke 20:34-36), the Apostle Peter says we are being made partakers of the divine nature (2 Peter 1:4), and the Apostle Paul and Christ Jesus say that the faithful do now and in the future will sit with Christ on the Father's throne in the heavens (Ephesians 2:4-7; Revelation 3:21).
Scriptural, traditional Christian soteriology and eschatology do not teach that we die, fly off to an ethereal heaven, and boringly float around with harps in an endless sky-blue void with clouds forever. Rather, the Eschaton is a renewal, recreation, and glorification of the whole cosmos (Acts 3:18-21; 2 Peter 3:1-13), whereby the physical, mortal cosmos is purified, glorified, and joined with the spiritual cosmos (Revelation 21:1-8).
All human beings will be raised in glorified physical bodies (1 Corinthians 15). Our bodies, like Christ's own resurrection body (who, after his resurrection, could cook and eat, but also could appear out of thin air in a locked room) will at once be like and unlike the one we possess now, and will at once be familiar and unfamiliar (like how Jesus could go unknown and unperceived as himself by the disciples who knew him prior to his dead, until he chose to be perceived and opened their eyes to recognize him). And so the glorified Eschatological cosmos-which will be suffused with the uncreated energies of God (1 Corinthians 15:28; Colossians 1:9-20)-will at once be like and unlike the cosmos we know now, familiar and unfamiliar. It will be a similar but completely renewed and perfected universe in which there will no longer be death, decay, corruption, cruelty, etc.
And then, of course, there will also be the eternally incomprehensible God, with whom we will be in intimate communion and fellowship. Consider the vastness of the universe itself, and how we have barely even begun to explore, know, and understand it. And it has its limits. Then consider that there is an eternal and infinite (limitless) God who created that universe, and that he desires communion and fellowship with us. If it has taken us this long to explore and discover what little we do know of the universe we presently have, and each new discovery and advancement we make is hailed with such ecstatic joy and enthusiasm, how much more joy and enthusiasm will we have exploring and discovering new things about the perfected and glorified cosmos, and especially about the eternal God who renewed and perfected it?
Basically, think of the whole human experience, remove all evil, pain, suffering, and death, leaving only the good, the beautiful, the joyous, the wondrous, etc. Then magnify those things by infinity, waiting to be experienced by deified humans in true and perfect fellowship with their God who loves them. That is the Christian hope and expectation.
15:10-15:16 = Scott: "So what would you get if the Aetherial energy and everything met with a realm of Oblivion?"
Meridia: **enters the chat and laughs in the Daedric Princes' faces**
Short answer: The Colored Room
@@badluck5647 Exactly. Created from the fabric of Oblivion interwoven with the light of Aetherius refracted through Meridia herself.
ANOTHER HAND TOUCHES MY BACON
Yep. Even Malacath to an extent, his realm stretches from Oblivion to Aetherius due to his origins as Trinimac the Aedra
@@thalmoragent9344 Precisely.
And if we're honest, probably even Dibella. She is a deity of Man (Nordic and Reachmen), not Mer. So, though she is one of the Imperial Divines, she technically qualifies as a Daedra and not an Aedra, which are Elven classifications for those divinities that are "not our ancestors" and "our ancestors," respectively.
Thank you for all that you do. I am currently about to turn 14 and was very depressed about 2 years ago when I discovered Skyrim. Now I’ve played every game and I wouldn’t be alive if it wasn’t for the elder scrolls. I currently am the leader of a elder scrolls club in my middle school. I just wanted to tell you my story and say thank you for making this wonderful content.
Yo thats really great to hear. it's so cool that the elder scrolls was able to impact you in such a positive way. keep ur head up! I know what its like to be majorly depressed, that shit tears into your soul, but you're very strong to have made it through that :) Good thing you did because you have so much to look forward to! Hang in there ❤️
@@alyxxpratt678 thank you so much. Much love ❤️
Life however great or mean,
Is the one and true reward.
Life is what you make it. And you have already shown to yourself that you can accomplish things. You can make something you love, in founding a club. And you are never alone, someone at your school feels exactly as you do. Not everyone can understand, it sucks when it's people you care for.
I recommend the song "All that praises heaven slanders earth." By Blackbird Raum. On Spotify and TH-cam and the rest. Absorb the words. Internalize the message. It can be a bit existential. But It helped me. Best wishes.
Things get better bud, wish you the best!
The Mythic Dawn may not be a daedra cult. The Deadlands DLC introduces the idea that Dagon's cults are Magnus worshipers who will follow Dagon as Magnus' agent to unmake his flawed creation of Mundus.
I could see the 2 being entwined together at times, although of course there are many who worship Dagon who aren't affiliated with Magnus, but there'd definitely a connection
Lorkhan ruined everything, but Magnus still wants to put his 900 IQ to work and make what he and the other Et'Ada wanted to way back in the Dawn Era. Lorkhan placed his lies and then Magnus left his creation, unfinished and Tainted by too much Padomaic essence and not enough Anuic
My favorite cult from my favorite game, fuck yeah. i got a Mythic Dawn Rising sun tattoo on my arm about 2 years after i first played oblivion
The last time I was this early, God Howard had only released Skyrim once
The man releases a trailer in 2018 for a game that will come out in 2028 lol
Love Scott's new look. It really stands out.
The Aedra being lesser or weaker than the Daedra is a very common misconception. The Aedra gave up their personhood to embody the literal laws of physics of mundus itself. The Daedra, while keeping their personhood, can only influence Mundus from the outside, and are not only bound by the Aedra in the ammount and way they wish to influence Mundus, but require champions from Mundus in order to enact their wishes and manipulations.
In that regard, the Daedra are infinitely more dependant and flawed, than the Aedra could ever be.
"Fight the good fight"
Yeah, I hate the constant "Aedra suck, Daedra are the true rulers" when you consider that the Aedra have a Realm that all the Daedra seem to want and feel interested in
@@thalmoragent9344 They *are* the realm, but yeah, I guess it's just easier to get hooked on an entity with a voice and (often very petty) agenda, than the martyr gods of Lorkhan's design.
Nirn will continue without the presence or influence of Daedra, but remove one single Aedra and the entire thing will collapse.
@@MrYelly
True, the Aedric Et'Ada, whether willing like the Atmoran Pantheon or unwilling like my poor Aldmeri Pantheon, or a mix of both like the Yokudan Pantheon, were all entwined and their Spheres are also part of the Mundus.
Get rid of Auriel and Time shatters and is no longer there to keep Order and Structure to the Aurbus. Get rid of Lorkhan and the realm looses the Space and partly Mortality as well. No Magnus and a lot of Earthbones suddenly shift since he was the Architect of the place, etc.
Lots to think about. But the Mer would rather just vibe in Aetherius understandably, since there's not much order to the place, and they're Old Ehlnofey, meaning more Anuic, and so on and so forth with Man being more Chaotic.
But yeah, all Aedra, willing or lied too, far more important than the Daedra that only somewhat uphold the Spheres. Yes they can influence them well but if they're not there it only means less depth to whatever they embody. Some of them like Molag aren't needed at all, Meridia is helpful/can be useful, Vaermina is 50/50, Clavicus isn't needed unless you wanna trade something big, Sanguine is chill but Dibella is safer, etc
@@thalmoragent9344 From my understanding, the embodiment of the Daedra is not an act of creation, or inherent. They are not part of Mundus, after all.
Mehrunes domain of change, chaos and progression would not be absent from Mundus, as these traits find their home in any heart, men or mer alike. Same for Vaermina, Molag, Sanguine and even Nocturnal.
Daedra simply pull the strings that are already there, with their frustrations on that clumsy lack of aptitude and control. (Meridia especially so)
Mehrunes Dagon was a creation of the other Daedra. Meridia once having Cold Harbor is it important part of that.
so a random question I have how many mythic dawn membrs were high elfs that could have escaped and returned to Summerset to infiltrate/change the Thalmor into what they become in skyrim
The Thalmor do share the Mythic Dawn's goal of unmaking Mundus. It is also not a stretch for Altmer Magnus worshipers to see Dagon as a creation/agent of the Magna Ge.
@@badluck5647
True. And Dagon has a lot of light to him, albeit often with fire as well. Pretty sure they could've been a pivotal point for all Anuic Mer everywhere
No, the Thalmor are directly opposed to the Mythic Dawn even if it doesn't seem like it at first. The main difference is their view of Lorkhan. While the Mythic Dawn venerate him the Thalmor despise him.
Hope is a powerful tool. For most people when they reach their goal from what they hoped for, they stop hoping. For a being that is the primordial sense of hope, it never will end. Like a hunger that cannot be satisfied. If Dagon had won the day instead of being thwarted, he would of eventually turned on his followers to overthrow them and it would be a continued cycle.
"Most ironic of all, was the last gift that Raziel had given me. More powerful than the sword that now held his soul, more acute even than the vision that his sacrifice had accorded me. The first, bitter taste of that terrible illusion: hope."
- Kain
I love the Mythic Dawn, I have been working on some way to explore interpreting the Mythic Dawn Commentaries for awhile and it has led me down a lot of very interesting rabbitholes. Off the top of my head, there are a few additional things I would like to throw out there to add onto what you said.
The most important thing is that y'all totally forgot to mention how important the Magna Ge are in the Mythic Dawn! Their pantheon goes beyond Lord Dagon and it seems that worship of the Magna Ge is part of the path to Paradise. "I give my soul to the Magna Ge, sayeth the joyous in Paradise, for they created Mehrunes the Razor in secret, in the very bowels of Lyg, the domain of the Upstart who vanishes." (Mythic Dawn Commentaries 3) and "But for it the Crusades would be as my lord's Creation, Get by the Ge and do as thou wilt, of no fetters but your own conscience! " (Mythic Dawn Commentaries 4) point to this.
I know there isn't much to go on just with that about a specific pantheon, but there are other elements we can see that give evidence to how this manifested in worship and the significance if it. The use of a Great Weykland stone to open the gate to Paradise shows a ritual use of starlight for example, and given how the 4 items used relate to Oblivion (Great Sigil Stone and Daedra blood) and Aetherius (the Weykland stone and Aedra blood) and how chim and Nu-Mantia are intertwined in the Commentaries I would say that gives the impression that they are seeking to sort of go back up to the source before the dualities and such whose interplay creates that emanated chain of being that is the universe in the Elder Scrolls.
Anyways, something else: the Ritual of Want is super interesting when you read into it. It's sort of like a baptism in the sense of a purification and rebirth sort of thing where you symbolically kill your old identity and become reborn as a Dagonite. There are symbolic references to the overthrow of Molag Bal and his murder that basically broke that kalpa with the use of dreugh hides and the incancation talking about breaking bones upon the rocks and all. So it is sort of can be seen like a microcosm of breaking the overall time cycle by first breaking from the personal cycles that you are attached to and emptying your mind to open up to pure revolutionary energy a la Dagon. You can't be working towards breaking time itself if you're all caught up with celebrating holidays or working at the forge or whatever.
It also seemingly seems like you are basically symbolically becoming Ruma Camoran. He describes the ritual of want "as a birth watched by blackbirds", which alludes his first daughter who Mankar Camoran seemingly ate: "Falter now and become one with the wayside orphans that feed me. Follow and I shall adore you from inside. My first daughter ran from the Dagonite road. Her name was Ruma and I ate her with no bread, and made another, which learned, and I loved that one and blackbirds formed her twin behind all time." This idea of consuming something of impure for what is pure is also evoked in a more academic sense when discussing the aedra and connected with this idea of learning from your misteps to ascend. I am pretty sure basically this means you are sort of symbolically killing your old identity, in analogy to how Mankar killer and ate his daughter (maybe symbolically?), and then celebrating your rebirth as a Dagonite on the new Ruma's birthday. Pretty freaking metal. It also feels like "Raven Camoran" and the idea of the twin of blackbirds should be related, but I am not exactly sure how?
I'll avoid going into the relationship to real life religous and philosophical ideas like thelema, buddhism, and egoist anarchism, or more of the interesting ideas in the Commentaries and the Ayleid connection, but yah honestly the Commentaries are kind of a masterpiece that I have been dissecting for a couple years now. My goal is to organize those ideas into a video and watching some videos on this channel has definitely helped me deepen my appreciation of the Elder Scrolls and gave me some insights on my favorite fictional new religious movement. Thanks a ton ✌
Bro. Yeah, please make a video about this.
Please make a video about this! This is so cook
Scott is looking particularly handsome this episode. New haircut?
The mythic dawn Skyrim anniversary edition content is pretty good, the assets and textures used are pretty top notch
I liked it! I was just disappointed because you don’t get a huge area to explore inside the Deadlands, and don’t get to get a Sigil stone
@@HeWhoComments To be fair if they gave you a sigil stone they'd have to come up with a satisfying reason you can't use it in the atronach forge or people would complain
I can’t stop picturing Scott’s voice coming from the mask
Last time I was this early the Mythic Dawn hadn't killed the emperor.
"You failed, Cyrodiil Champion. Everyone can see that you are drawn as a soyjack and me as the Chad." -Camoran probably
I read it in the voice and I AM WHEEZING
🤣🤣🤣😭
This was THE most interesting conversation i have ever heard about the subject! I am shoulders deep in elderscrolls lore and I really really love it. I love you guys
What I live about the daedra is this implication that becoming daedric is to have a more physical presence than an aedra because all they are is unchecked ego. Their realm is all their ego their limitations and freedoms start and end with their ego. It might just be a game contrivance but I feel two daedric princes can't exist in the same oblivion realm or another's daedric realm because it is their own metaphysical mind. Except on nirn because right now it's like an open server with no real admin , cause the admin died but left his computer running forever next to a bunch of wierd kids with no internet at home
This is so accurate
I don't know if you can have a more physical presence than becoming the essence of magic itself, like Julianos. Within mundus, he is present everywhere, at all times. Or to become time itself, like Akatosh.
In comparison, the Daedra are a bunch of outsiders who are looking in through the windows, desperately praying they can have a seat at the table someday...Or at least knock the table over.
@@MrYelly it all depends on the intelligent life on nirn. Julianos and the aedra are more elemental spirits. Any expression of will or act taken is a result of a second party witnessing and molding the phenomenon around their perception(most time it's the observers will that is the catalyst for the phenomenonat all). Not having a physical body and desolation of the ego, that's their physical limitation. Daedra had a more spiritual limitation that affects their physical.
This might also be contrivance for game mechanics, but i think with the more liberty the daedra have to move about nirn the more consistent their form to their choosing when they invade, but it depends on the image of what the local mental bandwidth perceives you as. It doesn't have as much power over the daedra as it does with aedra since their own will is there to essentially metabolize the incoming mental projection back into their core personality.
@@OgieSifter Sorry, but no. Aedra are not elemental spirits, they embody the laws of physics and the shape of mundus.
Julianos is not an elemental spirit, he is the literal embodiment of magic. Every single Daedric artifact is dependant on his domain, or doomed to lose their effects, power and relation to their daedric prince.
The only Aedra that could sort of be compared to an elemental spirit, would be Kynareth, as her domain literally entails all the elements.
Daedra cannot "move about nirn (mundus)", as they are by very definition, not a part of nirn in any way. Looking in from the outside, they require mortal champions in order to influence or exert any type of manipulation or power within nirn.
Just read up on the Dragonfires. Not a single Daedric prince can enter nirn by their own choice, or true form. In every case of a daedric invasion, the portals were opened by cultists, from the side of Nirn. (Battlespire)
For example, without Arkay (the aedra that embodies the cycle of life and death, mortality in general) Neither Hircine nor Meridia would have been as invested with Mundus as they are now, as their entire domains are dependant on Arkay and his very creation (conception) of mortality.
The entire joke is that Daedra mock the Aedra, while seething with nothing but envy, and the inherent wish to meddle with the world that they would never admit wanting to be a part of.
I see that Scott has achieved Anti-Chim, becoming the Sharmat. A Scott-Ur
Dang Drew lookit that hair that face that vibe, what a prince
Literally watching this at dawn in the U.S. 😂
So if daedric princes are supposed to exist partially outside of time, and if Lorkhan let himself be killed to make Mundus the way it is now, then somewhere outside of time part of Lorkhan is still the daedric prince of Mundus and he's probably just chilling and watching Nirn like tv or something.
And then sometimes Lorkhan hops in as the player character, rolling up their sleeves being like "Right, I gotta sort this out myself."
Gotta love Scott's new face lol
The mythic dawn is memory lane for me. I was a oblivion baby
Pretty sure the heaven's gate cult the that believed in the comet taking them to their own realm, and the apocalyptic am shinrikyo helped inspire both the mythic dawn and the current motives for the aldmeri
That's what it was; the Heaven's Gate cult, during the visit of the Hale-Bopp comet. I remember that vividly but, for some reason, couldn't remember what it was called. Thank you.
Is there a video on Protonymic and Neonymic? Feels like an interesting discussion.
Like do other beings besides daedra have Nymics? Is "Dovahkiin" a type of Nymic for the dragonborn? Etc Etc.
listening to a podcast while doing Oblivions main quest ^^ quality content as always
The Mythic Dawn assassinated Scott, hence why there is no footage of him!!!!!😱😱😱😱😱
@Falkrim I do not fear Death!!!!
Mankar Camoran’s character kinda reminds me of Stregobor from the Witcher books
Love waking up to a new podcast.
As an Aussie I love the upload time for this podcast. ;) great podcast as always.
When is it uploaded where you live? Where I live in the state’s it comes out Sunday morning, perfect for me too!
Dawn is Breaking! I love the feeling of this cult, and used some mods and ended up taking over the Mythic Dawn, became the Potentate and set the way for a new Mythic Era, in worship of the Prince of Destruction on an Empire-Wide level. I could literally kill people on the street and guards wouldn’t set a bounty, they would just come to wish me a good day.
Greet the new day
Pretty sure the cult that the Simpsons parodied was the one that ended in the Jonestown massacre. Can't remember the name but the leaders gave the members poisoned cool-aid which then lead to the term "drinking the cool-aid".
edit: The People's Temple cult
"Heavans Gate" is the one he was referring to. The thought the "hale-bop" comet that appeared in 1995 was a space ship that would take them to heaven, really creepy story. They all bought the same Nike shoes because the swoosh resembled a comet lol.
@@Papagiorgio153 Yep, the moment I read Heaven's Gate I knew you were right and that was the one.
@@Papagiorgio153 apparently they also were all web designers in the early internet and one guy was chosen to stay behind and keep running the website which is still up today
I wouldn't be shocked if it turned out that some of the Altmer members of the Mythic Dawn managed to flee back to Alinor and join an early version of The Thalmor which they now use as a way to achieve unmaking Mundus. It's a stretch but The Thalmor do have Daedra worshippers in their ranks,like Lord Naarafin
I wish we had gotten that spell. it's really cool.
It seems that Scott has achieved Chim.
*Anti-Chim
Drew not knowing heaven’s gate proves the boys are from the UK lol
Dawn is breaking...
And you shall be it's herald
The chad assassins! Welcome back oh the great Trinity of Fudgemuppet.
I just started playing oblivion for the first time yesterday. The mythic dawn are looking cool on the sewer intro.
I mean Tamriel/Nirn was Mahrunes Dagons plane and so he wants back what is rightfully his
I’ve seen every episode of these podcast, Scott you cut drew and Michael off sooooooo much let them finish :’(
Love the content guys! Nice makeover Scott! It's a dawning look for you. 😉 I'd like to see an episode about odd creatures of TES.
One of the issues I really have with Elder Scrolls is that the mortals are always in a pretty severe disadvantage when it comes to the Daedra. Like here are these beings with near infinite power that randomly decide to ruin someones life and the only safeguard against them are the Divines who literally can't do much because they're too weak. I would like it if future games made it a bit more even.
It's the great journey
It would make sense that Dagon might have directly inspired the potential goal of the Thalmor, Crystal Tower fell during the Oblivion Crisis and they could have designed their plans around what they saw there
What if instead of being born a god mehrunes was a mythic hero of lyg who toppled the dregs and the gods and he ascended to godhood. The same thing could apply to molag bal where he was a great mythic king but when the world reset both of them became gods.
Anyone still gets chills at the intro song?
Couldn't help but look at Scott and think "Who are you?" (Hadvar voice)
for ep. 81, i think making my mod list and planning my character is more fun than actually playing skyrim. also, your channel and watching sorcerer dave's fathis ulven playthrough is also more enticing than playing TES myself. i dont think i've gotten above level 20 in my last ten playthroughs. Regardless, still love the series and fanaticize about the next one
Yay another podcast
Silas reminds me of US Southerners who boast about being descended from Robert E. Lee. So, I find him to be a very believable character.
He had seven children, and given the size of families back then, there a likely a lot of them.
The leader of the Mythic Dawn was an Altmer; his son and daughter were Altmer; the end of the Oblivion Crysis was followed by the Aldmeri Dominion advancing on the Imperial City...
... what if the Thalmor are, without openly been Dagon Worshippers, followers of the Mythic Dawn, now simply wanting to bring Paradise on Mundus instead of going to Paradise ?
I'm thinking about the whole Akatosh and Alduin thing... vs Dagon, it may just have been a natural response: the Dragonfires are lit and Dagon tries to invade = intervention. But with Alduin, I am wondering if Alduin deviating from his intended purpose (ruling rather than devouring) and Akatosh (or AKA) intervenes because Alduin needs a 'hard reset', or because Akatosh wants the kalpa to continue. Why just this one is anyone's guess.
isn't lorkhan an aedra tho? by definition
Love the podcast! Also looking forward to more lets play!
Scott looking very handsome in this podcast.
Can't believe I'm this early! Love the content💙
thank you 💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
Miaq the liar is the agent from daggerfall
Oblivion and Morrowind isn't working on xbox rn... they won't load up correctly. Is anyone else having this issue isn't been about a week now it won't load top to the main menu. :/
I kept thinking michael was saying underdark not underdog.
I feel like dagons plan in eso is basically the same as molag bals in the main story, just trying to merge mundus with his realm by using the 4 ambitions/ dark anchors
I think every Daedra Lord wants to control Mundus in one form or another.
Yeah but they pretty much tried the same method but molag bal had physical anchors and Dagon had the 4 ambitions with a bit of his power in them to tether him to mundus or anchor him, atleast the court of bedlam was a bit more original
One thing that I always felt when I was playing through Oblivion is I was afraid that the mythic Dawn was actually correct and Tameril actually did belong to Dagon.
It so weird he cames to be all powerful yet... is so weak
This should be interesting
Just in time I just finished the deadlands dlc
Does anyone know what mic’s they use?
I painted a mythic dawn banner it's in my room to pay homage to the god of destruction
Actually, he is also the god of ambition and change; chaos and destruction are frequent side-products of change, but aren't the point. Reminds me of the way the Shadows were described in contrast to the Vorlons on Bablylon 5 - The Vorlons are like your parents who want to keep you safe and secure, follow the rules; the Shadows want you to go out in the galaxy and make a noise - break things (planets, etc.) if you need to in order to obtain your ends.
Drinking game for these podcasts? Take a shot every time Scott interrupts or tries to interrupt, Michael and Drew.
Edit: maybe not so much this one, but definitely for the last one.
I'm wanting to start a podcast with my friend as a co host, I just have no idea how to go about it, do u have any advice on how to do it?
Here's a hot take for you: The Thalmor should win because tamriel ruled over by the dominion would be a really cool game setting where you can play as either an agent or a member of a resistance faction.
Or just make a game set in summerset
Scott looking like Dagoth Ur meets Handsome Squidward lol
Recently started playing TES4 again, this time I really want to complete the main story, because I still haven't done this :(
Its not that crazy to think that the dragon blood can be thinned out which is why there arent a bunch of potential dragon emperor heirs everywhere. Especially since as far as we know the Septims dont practice incest like real world royalty or Targaryns do. Also its not too insane to think that the Emperor had no siblings or uncles as even Tiber Septim only had one kid who then went on to only have one kid so its not that insane
Speaking of Dagon, can anyone help me find that fanart of Mehrunes depicted in what looks like Hindu or Buddhist style art being shown as a benevolent god to a crowd happily worshipping him? Fudgemuppet had that image in one of their videos but I can't find it
Do Drew and Michael look different to you guys?
Let's gooooooooooo
...Brandon
The cult Drew is referring to was "Heavens Gate" lol
So to understand it correctly. Dagon is not Lorkhan. But Dagon, and his cult want to destroy Lorkhan's world because they don't think Lorkhan approves of in what state world is? Thats kinda dumb.
From what i read up Lorkhan even defeated Dagon in elder scrolls 4 oblivion. Tiber Septim. Incarnation of Lorkhan.
I think you misunderstood few things in the lore.
Mechanically, I loved an enemy type using summoned weapons/armor.
When I first began Oblivion I was so excited to get their weapon at the start of the game. I got pretty disappointed when I realized they were summoned
It cool as a spy "i got caught! Time to go out swinging!" But first playing it sucks as no one explains it to you and hands you like the worst weapons to escape
Was Scott trolling Michael with that last video? Lol
Despite being "Hope and Change" i think it a perfect cover cuz to make change, you often have to overthrow and spike the rulers which if you dont do things "right" your subjects may try it on you.
If mundus broke all the princes would probably go do their own things. They are only powerful cuz they came around first and got alot of "power" stored up
The cult you thought might be real indeed was. They were called Heaven's Gate.
They believed that the passing of a comet would bring them to paradise. If they committed suicide at the moment of its passing. I believe their website is still up.
Dude I love Handsome Squidward Dagoth-Ur
Apparently no one reads the description, you guys still have last week's in there, just thought I'd let you know :3
8:23 Michael defines socialists and commies
Drew just woke up
The Eight betrayed Lorkhan, did they? Akatosh is Lorkhan/Shezarr so he dose not count, Arkay was once mortal and had nothing to do with Lorkhan, Dibella Sided with Lorkhan, Julianos Sided with Lorkhan as well, Kynareth his Wife sided with him, Mara his Concubine, Stendarr died for him, and Zenithar maybe?.
Am i missing somthing? or do 90% of the Eight sided with Lorkhan and not against him.
Well saying Akatosh is Lorkhan is kinda theory at best. Auriel definitely betrayed Lorkhan.
@@ArcaneAvian19 And trinimac. But really Shor tricked Auri-El in the first place.
Hey Scott 😍😘
Mehrunes Dragon is one of the most evil Daedra!!!!!
Other evil Daedra are: Namira, Nocturnal, Vaermina, Boethiah, Peryite, and Mephala.
My list of good-neutral Daedra are: Meridia, Azura, Sheogorath, Clavicus Vile, Hircine, Sanguine, Molag Bal, Hermeus Mora, Jyggalag, and Malacath.
Also even though Sithis isn't a Daedra they are in the neutral morality zone to me.
Ever heard of the joke about High tech vs a Djinn?
So it goes that Djinn use highly advanced tech when they do their stuff as "Making Gold" is just rearranging atoms, making someone have lovers is reorganizing women chemical structures and pretty all they do can be done if you had a souped up, unrestricted subnatica crafter basically.
Despite being all "powerful" their influences are less impactful then a fart sometimes. To mortals it scary but the moment your peephole of reality opens up, it not that much.
The Elder Scrolls version of Jim Jones.
Scott is looking extra smexy today 🥴
what elder scrolls race would amy winehouse be
Goblin
We need mehrunes Dagon to take down Amazon
I reversed Dagon's true name and all I could understand out of it is "I lick hell"