SONY A7IV OR A7SIII | Watch THIS Before You Buy...
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- SONY A7IV OR A7SIII | Watch THIS Before You Buy...
My thoughts on the Sony A7SIII vs A7IV!
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Thanks for the videos Peter, they were very well organized, and out of all the ones I’ve seen were presented the best! Problem with these comparisons, and you said it yourself, is that when you take the a7iv and compare is to the a7siii, you are comparing apples to oranges. The S is over a grand more and made for video primarily and then you have the hybrid. People just don’t understand that you can’t make the A7 series the same as the S series, or you might as well just make it an S series…
People seem to want/expect the A1 or A7siii at the price that the a7iii is currently going for. Like cars, clothes, RC cars, computers…there are levels to this. You can’t expect a rock crawler to also perform like a lambo!
Helpful information as always, Peter! Did you have a chance to compare stabilization and 4K 50/60p rolling shutter between the SIII and 7IV? Curious how they compare on those 2 fronts. I know both now have the Active stabilization available now, just wondering if they are indistinguishable or one is better than the other on that front. Some of the reviews I've watched with regard to rolling shutter at 4K/24p on the 7IV appeared disappointing and not an improvement over the 7iii, but I'd love to see a stacked comparison between the [cropped in] 4K 100/120p on the 7IV and Siii. I think there's a story there...
I chose the a7IV (arriving tomorrow) because Im a photographer who shoots video. The APS-C crop at 4K60p isn't a big deal to me, pretty much every cinema camera has a sensor right around that same size anyways. Plus at 4K24 and 30, the IV downsamples from 7K, something the a7SIII can't even come close to matching. I thought all the video guys always say to shoot at 24fps anyways? I'll take video shot in 7K over video shot in 4.2K all day every day. They are both great cameras but Id rather have the much better resolution and a more capable photo camera than full 4K60 shot at only 4.2K.
I could notice the difference. The a7SIII has a smoother colour and highlight/shadow transition that pushes it closer to the FX line cameras. The A7IV is detailed but has more of a digital feel. Of course, these are only evident when you compare them side by side.
Yup... plus S3 seemed to have more details in the shadow. Only comparing them side by side paused...
I noticed the same thing!
Surely, I also noticed this with pause On.
Quality vids and well thought out opinions as always brotha!
I would say: 'both camera's are great hybrid shooters, being the A7SIII leaning more to filming and the A7M3 more to stills' However I have the A7S3 and I must say, its perfect for my needs. My main things are concerts and events... for that I want superbe low light capabilities and SPEED! Before the sun comes up, my photo's have to be ready for social or else someone with a smartphone steals my place in the media.
The A7S3 lets me take shots no one else can and the 12MP stills unload and proces lightning fast... and it would be great to have 33MP and the 3-way switch...
This comment is perfect because I'm in the same realm!
pre-ordered the A7 IV yesterday with Tarmon 28-75 F2.8. Using lumix s5 right now. Cheaper hybrid than the A7 IV but the same specs(4.2.2 10Bit, 4k60p 1.5crop ect. so crop is not a big deal for me) But the sony lens line up worth the change for me if i think on the future. At my level of videography the A7SIII is OverPowered as hell AND EXPENSIVE...! If i feel confortable with the a7IV and got the right lenses for my setup. I'll MAYBE get the a7S IV in the future!
Nice vid as always.
I went to a festival in 2021 and I rented the a7s3 with a 70-200 and omg it was the most fun setup I've ever used. I used it for photos and video and I have to say the image quality was definitely a big step up coming from someone who regularly uses an a6300. Its a bit out of my price range but i had the most fun shooting with that and the a7s2. Currently shooting with an a6600 but nothing near what the s3 can do in terms of video and photo. The 6600 is good but not great. It does not offer the lowlight capabilities of the a7s3. That thing can shoot in straight-up pitch black. I shoot alot of concerts and festivals so having a camera that's good in lowlight like the a7s3 was a gamechanger for me. For now though I'm okay with my a6600 setup!
If i had the choice of the two i would go for the SIII every time.. 12 Mpix is plenty for big prints(50x70cm)..
I have an A7R4 and A7S3 and I often find I only take my S3 because of the great video and the photos are still really nice. If you are using on social media and websites the S3 12MP photos are plenty good.
same like u, l just want to sell my A7r4 and tu buy a A74
Got the same setup. Don’t see a need to upgrade just yet.
How is A7siii still pictures for event photography album Printing?
how different is the video tho ? like RAW to RAW where is the difference.
at the start of this video, i really couldnt tell the difference on which cam was which. looks same same to me
First, I like your Swinglish accent. Second, I have pre-ordered the A7iv. Yes, I would love the A7Siii. That being said, I think the A7iv is more impressive than some are making it out to be. When it comes to cameras, I think more people complain about stuff that has little to do with their day to day uses of these cameras. For instance, corner sharpness. In my view, its one of the least relevant or important features in a camera. Partly because I shoot mainly video, and I think photographers are more concerned with corner sharpness than anyone else. That being said, I can't think of one time when I went to a photo gallery and even thought about looking at the corners of a photo I was viewing. Plus, I think it's hilarious when reviewers zoom in on a corner at around 300-400%, as if anyone would actually 'zoom in' that close when looking at a photo. Except for maybe a photographer.
Anyway, there are SO many things I think people worry about when it comes to cameras that I find to be a waste of brain power that it would make my comment longer than needed.
Bottom line. I'm getting the A7iv. And I couldn't be more excited.
Probably going to buy this A7 IV as B cam for my A7S III. I like to shot pictures expecially when traveling and that extra "quality" will be the sweet spot. For commercial use the S and the higher frame rate with no crop is still the best for me.
The SIII's IMX510 sensor is actually a 48 megapixel design. On readout, it digitally combines 4 adjacent pixels into one (for a total of 12mp). It's almost identical to the A1's IMX610 sensor, which explains how the A1 is "magically" able to do everything the SIII can do and more, retaining all of the dynamic range and having even better noise performance, despite _seemingly_ having a much higher resolution sensor. This also means that the individual photosites on the A7IV are quite a bit _larger_ than the SIII's.
I would go A7 IV because I do take pictures when traveling etc. but the crop at 60fps bothers me…
yeah such a deal breaker for me too
What does it mean if it is cropped?
@@julieannhobbs6456 when you shoot at 60fps the image is ‘cropped/reduced’ by a factor. From what I heard I believe it’s 1.5 time for the A7 IV. That for example means that if you have a given lens on, say a 35mm, the focal will vary when you move from 24fps to 60fps.
It’s a bit like if you full frame would become an APSC when changing frame rate.
They studied the whole marketing plan very well unfortunately 😭
@@ClaudioDesideriFilms they probably only gave use a higher MP sensor to justify the crop lol when reality no one really wanted a 33mp sensor
Great advice Peter!, Thanks
Subscribed! Great video and channel!
Loved hearing your thoughts on this!
Super useful camera at that price point. The elephant in the room is the horrific rolling shutter in video mode. As a note, I do find the A7S III has that creamy cinematic edge, less clinical.
I don't miss the rolling shutter on A7iii. A7iv seems similar. Would stick with A7siii for that reason alone. I don't do whip pans but it's the jello effect when shooting handheld that really bothers me with A7iii. I was editing some old A7iii footage yesterday and was thinking "What's with the jello?!", then I remembered what it used to be like. A7siii is SO much better when it comes to rolling shutter.
I love that the 7IV has 4K60, but the crop is a huge disappointment. The 7SIII is to expensive and only have 12 MP. Because I do photo and video i’ll wait until the 7IV gets a little bit cheaper…
12mp is a good thing. Less noise in low light and high resolution.
Could this crop be solved in a future firmware update? Maybe we should All push sony for it! The camera is capable…
@@SamuelJamesVideos exactly, people are always caught up on mp, but don’t understand the science behind it and all the other factors. The siii takes some beautiful photos and I’ve printed a lot of the pics I’ve taken and they look great.
@@manelgarciaprats I sure hope so!!
@@manelgarciaprats that would be awesome
Peter, I loved your explanation! Super love your Swinglish accent too, haha. Thanks so much!
I guess this is "if I only had 1 choice" vid, but the IV is gonna be a great B-cam to my A7S3.
Peter nailed the explination.
I mostly do event photography & video work. Sometimes special photo ops happen in seconds and in that situation, the A7IV is great for having the flexibility to crop the photos later in post. HOWEVER, if I had to pick one, it would be the A7SIII. Don't let the 12mp sensor fool you. Its great at taking photos. I've done professional gigs for photo and video with just the A7SIII.
The reason why I got the IV was to have a capable but cheaper 2nd camera body so I didn't need to waste time swapping lenses.
I really like your explanation and mentioning that the 12 megapixel still takes great photos I am coming from the A7R2 however I am now doing about 90% video work I’ve literally never crop the photo ever usually use different lenses or a 24 to 70 which pretty much covers my needs for that the 873 seems to be calling my name but I am a little bit worried with that 12 megapixel I mainly do social media work so I’m guessing the 12 megapixel photos won’t be too much of an issue for me my biggest thing about crops is that they do not change the focal compression so I tend to swap lenses anyway to get the desired focal length not just a crop do you guys think the A7S three would work for me considering I am doing primarily video and see myself using 60 frames per second quite regularly
@@willawtry5119 100% Yes! If you're doing more video work, I'd recomend getting a A7SIII or a FX3 if you're in the market for a sony system. Like you, I try to do most of the work in-camera so cropping isn't much of an issue for my type of filming. Otherwise, I've done event & corporate photos and videos with the A7SIII with no complaints or issues.While the megapixel count is smaller than most, the megapixel size is physically bigger and allows for better dynamic range. great for low light and extreme high noon desert lighting. I've had my A7SIII for a little over a year and I have no complaints other than the memory cards needed to shoot at higher framerates are extremely expensive, so i'd look into that before purchasing. Happy shopping!
@@TheArtofLight Thank you man! Im super glad to hear this!! I also have an A7R2 which covers me fine for photography, I may bring that with me on shoots for photo :) if I really need specific stills but that would be rare :)
Very helpful thank you!
I'm keeping my A7Siii for photography. I do have higher resolution cameras for when I need it, but I do like 12 MP images for testing, shots that don't require more resolution, and old glass that will resolve very well on the sensor. Plus, I really like the colors that come out of the A7Siii. The only feature I'm bummed that the Siii does not have is the ability to use PDAF up to f/22 - but I have another camera that can do that when I need it and at least the high resolution EVF makes manual focus easier for taking over CDAF pulsing past f/11. :)
I narrowed all my lenses down to just three. My 2 favorite focal lengths 24 gm and 50 1.2 gm along with a backup 24-70. I say that to say this. The crop factor would completely eliminate my favorite parts about both primes.
What is the crop factor?
12mm APSC lens for $375 & you can get 4K/60 at 20mm equiv… you are welcome
@@AJCoReTV 🤦🏿♂️ if my favorite focal lengths are 24, 50 why would O look for a 20????? I already have the 16mm which is equivalent to 24. But with an A7iii i have no reason whatsoever to to want an A7iv
@@Mperrymanstudios I’m coming from an A7C… which I’m keeping as a B-cam. A7C crops at 4K/30… too many upgrades to ignore for me to not upgrade to the A74 for both video & photo. Sounds like you made up your mind, so long as you are happy, enjoy the heck out of it.
naise sir! love how you manage the intro
Love u always upload now . Keep it up Peter
what about IBIS + OSS stabilisation for hand-held walking-shooting-vlogging - are the two cams identical?
Thanks for review! Btw, do you still recommend to use Lexar 2000x memory card for Sony a7siii? Is it safe for XAVS 4k 100fps 422 10bit?
Would love to see a comparison between the A74 and the A1, very hard to justify the price difference between them!
the intro was really good peter, usually you take too long to do the intro for my taste, but that was perfect :)
getting a7iv
Just for reference to anyone reading I'm a 100% video background guy, but Ive always done event coverage and TH-cam style videos for people . and Ive always had a secondary camera for pictures. that set up has always worked great for me, but been using the same cameras for years, and I'm peaking at what I can squeeze out of them quality wise. I'm still using an a7sii and a canon 6d with sigma art lenses (my videos still look great even todays standards). Getting into wedding now, and music videos. a lot of clients always want pictures here and there. they kind of want you to be the all around guy, I up charge if they want that instead of a dedicated video shoot. but for MY ease of use case a hybrid would work. the extra grand from a7iv to the a7siii ill be using towards a drone. I don't have a drone yet. it wont cover a drone. but it will help towards getting the drone. I really want 4k 120 but man.
so my mindset right now is that a drone, and a hybrid camera will allow me to get more clients. with more clients means more money, more money means. i get an a7siii and an R something eventually . I'm known in my town for shit talking people who get a7 (non R non S) because Ive always said its for people who don't know if they want to do pictures or video. but now after working in all these different industries and getting paid. its not really so much what you want, its more what the clients want. obviously you want to have creative control etc. but the happier that client is the more recommendations you get the more they become repeat clients. and it all goes back to the saying where you got to make them work for you. working for them, works for you! so getting this money is the move.
the drone i want cost around 8K after everything. but ill be opting in for one that cost around 2500. instead. for the time being. get clients, get paid, upgrade as i go, as i upgrade get higher paying jobs, upgrade. its been working so far. i started with an a5100 and kit lens. now i have 3 editing computers, 2 have 3090s cause why not. but this goes over a lot of peoples heads when it comes to buying equipment. what jobs does one choice offer you over the other, cause in the end the client is who pays you.
side not to all this also, that crop wont matter to me since i already shoot cropped because i use a sigma 16 f1.4 for most video shoots. once cropped it becomes a 24 mm f2.0. My videos still come out super clear on the a7s2 when it is focused. the new AF on a7iv will alleviate those problems. (again i have a whole other camera for pictures, the a7sii stays on my ronin basically forever, i dont even swap bats because i have an external).
I would of bought a7iv but 4k 60fps crop factor is a deal breaker.
I'm not a video person can someone explain what the big deal is about that?
@@22s22a The crop factor means only a fraction of the sensor will be used to capture videos in 4K 60fps mode which will result in a zoomed in video compared to regular modes such as 4K 24fps or 1080p. The crop will also mean you have less flexibility for zooming in when you edit because it's already zoomed in from the camera and you will lose quality
@@ChevaughnBeckford so 60fps means you get to have that slow motion 4k video?
@@22s22a yeah, you can slow 60fps down to 40%
@@ChevaughnBeckford i feel if Video is your primary focus, the A7Siii would do the job yes? Since this is Hybrid in A7IV... Why are people upset that it has compromise?
Har du filmat nåt i HDR10?
hur svårt är det att få till?
Måste HDR videon från dom här kamerorna in i davinci resolve och tweakas för att få bra resultat eller går det att slänga upp på en HDR tv direkt?
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I need a hybrid camera, as I do a lot of photography. So maybe the A7IV, but I really would love to be able to do 4K60 without the crop. So I guess none of them is the right camera for me. Great video, as always!
So, did you film the rest of this video on the A7RIV? 😅
Great video as always🤘. We went from the A7iii to the FX3 (A7siii with pretty lights) and couldn't be happier.
You are my inspiration love your videos. Send a hug from Miami Fl
Just ran across your channel. Thanks for sharing.
Good video thank u!
I pre-ordered the a7iv, I really want the bigger pics for family & travel photography but I also love top notch video quality for vlogging :)
Do both share the same body scale ?
I am planning to transfer L bracket from a7SIII to a7IV.
Thanks for a good review.
I opted for the A7IV even though I primarily shoot video. If they were the same price I'd probably choose the SIII, but I don't feel like I'm missing that much. Not to mention the A7IV has more detailed 4K, it's got Movie, Stills S&Q dial and it's a newer camera so it should hold it's value longer. I never find myself needing 4K 120 and in many situations the 4k 60 crop is actually more if an aid than a hinderance for the type of videos I shoot.
Are you experiencing any overheating issues with the A7 IV?
Agreed! I have the same thoughts when it comes to the A7iv. Thought about the A7Siii and i keep thinking about it too.
It's good you're simply using the tool that suits your needs most. I opted for the a7S III as I love the 4K 120p and my weddings benefits from the low light dynamics, although a7 iv isn't too bad in low light either.
I’m using the FX3 so the a7iv is a perfect b cam (instead of the A1 which I’d love but can’t afford lol) as I often do a little product photography. The crop in 4k60 doesn’t matter to me as this camera would be my second interview cam for video and nothing more.
You're in the perfect situation to get the A7iv
@@ClaudioDesideriFilms Im thinking of making my A cam the A7siii, and then B cam the A74. Also for photo my A74 would be A cam!
@@PurseyProductions if I get the A7siii I'll make it my first camera for video and I would keep my A6500 for photos due to the 24 mp and use it as a second camera for video too. I could possibly sell the A6500 and all its lenses tho and use that money to replace it with a second hand A7iii
@@PurseyProductions perfect combo! I approve😁
@@ClaudioDesideriFilms had a lot of time to think about this… and I’ll probably keep my A7C as it’s 24mp, small and compact plus flip out screen, eye AF in video and great AF video and use this as a B cam against my A7S3
Always cool to comeback to your videos and see what the best choice for me is.
when I need a smile on my face you always put it there. Thanks.
I already have an a7Siii and I LOVE it. I also have a Nikon D90 for those OG photos I may take. LOL. Thanks Peter!
Love your vids, Peter!
I’m currently rocking with an FX3 and a6400. Looking to upgrade my a6400 to either an a7iv or a7siii (the idea is that this second camera would be my B cam for video an A cam for stills).
What would be your recommendation?
Note: I’m primarily a video shooter but I’m looking to get more into photo, hence the need to upgrade from the a6400
I answered your intro question right! 80% lucky 20% pixel peeping through sharpness
what are you watching his video on my guy 😂
Same, the a7siii was just a tiny bit sharper. I’m watching on an iPhone 11 Pro and I set the video quality to 1440p
the left side was noticeably sharper, but that's not where I was expecting to see a difference.
Rip the mobile users who tried to do this challenge
@@DjAce15 its actually the other way round! A7 iv is sharper in 4k30 because it uses oversampling from 7k!
Hi thank you for the video. All I would like to know is if the the super 35 mode impacts the dynamic range or lowlight capabilities
I would imagine it to impact those areas, since less of the sensor is utilized
the 1.5 crop in 4k 50/60p has left a window open for the competitors to come in, remember its almost 2022 and its not a super cheaper camera over here in Australia
Hello Peter, can you tell me if the rigs and cases for A7SIII fit on A7IV?
You should have like talked to yourself being side by side 😂😂
Good video man! I learn so much from you
I love the A7IV, price was not an issue, I had bought A1 and sent it back because I simply couldn't justify the $6500 when the A7IV meets and exceeds my hybrid needs. I love the A7IV, used the A7SIII and it is a good camera but for my short films, I use Red Cameras. The Lumix S5 is another great example of a hybrid camera and now you can get it with a lens for $1700
Very nice comparison Peter.
Hi Peter, what lense did you use for this video? It looks amazing 😀
Great video peter, I'm in a conundrium. I'm a hybrid shooter. I currently have the a7iii and I'm planning to keep it. I want 4K slow mo and I hate the jello that the 4k 30 has in the a7iii I always end up shooting 1080p 60 and just upscale it to 4k.
I'm considering the a7siii and a7iv. The widest lens I currently own is a tamron 28-70 2.8.
what did you end up going for? I'm in an almost identical situation
@@PatonProductions I ended up getting the A7Siii. The a7iii is still good for photos. And eventually I'll upgrade that to a a7iv and keep the a7iii as the main video cam with the 4 as a bcam.
what compact lightweight lens would you recommend with a7 4? don’t mind if it’s focused more on video
Thanks for that quick review ! S3 might be the right for me 🤙🏼
There is a benefit to the crop factor at 60, you can turn the disadvantage into an advantage for when you're using a prime lens and need a quick zoom.
As a Video Shooter always A7SIII. If A7IV wouldn't have 4k6p in 1.5 crop I would definitely go with A7IV. I think Sony is also giving competition to its own models.
Great Tutorial Review Video Peter. It's A Hard Choice, Because I Do Both. Probably Would Choose The Sony A7SIII. Thank You For Your Honesty!
It's coming "home" to take the place nr.1, A7III goes to nr.2, A6400 to nr.3 and the A5100 becomes the overhead camera. I'm a hybrid shooter and the addition of 33MP is more of an argument than the compromising cropping in 4K 60. I'll be fine.
Hey Peter, I'm curious your thoughts on how easy it would be to use the a7IV in a live multi-cam shoot with the a7sIII. For the opening comparison, they look very well matched. But what did you do/how much work did it take to match the two cameras? Curious what color profile(s) you shot in, what ISO setting for each camera, etc. and did matching the two require additional corrections in post production?
They work pretty much seamlessly together 😊
@@PeterLindgren1 Did you match them just using in camera settings or did you have to do extra corrections in post? If in camera, what settings did use?
I JUST placed my order for the Sony A7Slll and will be picking it up mañana!! I was stuck between the two! Because of this video let me just say . . . GRACIAS AMIGO!!!!!
Oooh, what a channel, what a find👍👍👍👍Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I was choosing between Canon r6m2 and Sony A7m4, I will take the sony.... Please suggest the top portrait lens (budget is unlimited) with the most gorgeous blurred background. And the second lens for shooting 4k travel video with the maximum possible quality and the minimum possible weight, that would for a day of walking around new cities shoulder and back said thank you)))
To be really honest I did see a difference... I admit it was almost minimal, but there was a difference... and I guessed right that the left picture was the a7siii. The a7IV seemed like having a bit less of dynamic range.
Nice video Peter
I love my Sony Fx3 ❤️🔥which lens would you recommend 100mm 400mm dg os sigma or 70mm 200mm i can't decide. there is also a lot of money between both lenses
I also answered the intro question correctly. The colours between the two are very slightly different.
Peter, for low light photography, which do you think is performing better ?
I think for a pro they work great together for anyone upgrading from a73 it’s a solid buy
Watched both this and the previous video on the A7IV, loved them like always Peter. Good to see you back with a punch 🥊.
A7siv?
@@MrRedrum01 Haha my bad man, was late at night just noticed the typo 😬 meant to write A7IV
Helpful video, thanks!
I have a FX6 as my A CAM
and so I think that A7IV will be perfect as a B CAM - cheaper than A7SIII, great options and perfect for photography. Hope I will not regret because of low light performances of A7IV.
in the same boat w/ FX6 as A cam, have you gone with anything yet?
Hi P. I have the R2 and M3 and they both have the craziest anying thing, when using an external monitor and shooting in 4k..... the menus are not on the external monitor. Do you know if this issue is present on the s3 and m4? That alone would keep me from upgrading. Anyway, thanx and happy new year from Denmark🎉
They're on the monitor now. I had the same setup like yours and upgraded to the 4 and C.
Late to the party but I think the crop factor is a blessing in disguise. It’ll see difficult to get an ultra wide apsc lens however everything else is still usable. While annoying to possibly purchase those lens, they are much lighter than FF
Tbh the only way i could tell a difference is the slightly higher resolution in the intro on the right side. If you watch it on a high res screen the difference was noticeable but its so damn close you wont be able to tell without a side by side. Nice video!
For hybrid shooter (and if the price will drop from the crazy launch price of 2800 EUR) the A7 IV is really a great piece of hardware and may be worth the update. To be really competitive, the store price should be at least the same of the R6.
is the image quality in video comparable to a Blackmagic pocket 6k? or are the codecs/bitrate worse?
I got the intro question right, it was easy to tell, but I still ordered the A7 IV. I mainly do 4k@24fps, so a crop at 60fps is not an issue. I think if the cameras were the same price I might consider the a7s III since I am mostly doing video. I am upgrading from an a7 III btw
How have you liked it compared to the a7III ?
@@fffernxndo It's much better, a big step up, ergonomics, menus, focus, etc. No regrets, also, a7III appears to have premature shutter failures
7iv is a crop mode only for 60fps, but 24fps is full frame right?
I brushed off the a7sIII's photo capability because it only had 12mp but the colors are waaaaay better than my a7iii so I always end up using the sIII for photos and it's a lot quicker to switch modes that to switch cameras.
same here, using a7S3 for photography instead of a7iii, compressed RAW are easier to handle & shutter is quieter
Been wondering myself if I should go for the A7siii since I will end up using my A7iii as a B cam. I guess it's better if I focus more on video, especially since the A7iii is (still) so good at taking photos.
Great vid
I answered it right at the beginning of the video 😁
I saw your beard looks sharper in the video on the left, but I was thinking maybe it was just a guess.
Not only a Swedish english accent, but a Göteborg english accent. Love it! Tack för din video och riktigt fina jämförelse! :)
Do you know if a USH-II SD card will be fast enough to handle filming in 4k60 in the 4:2:2 mode or you need the CF Express card?
Considering I can shoot 4k 60 All-I on my a7S III with a V90 SD-II card.. I would think it shouldn't be an issue. Although it is technically downsampling it from 4.8k instead of the 4.2k on the a7S III. It is also doing in Super 35 mode. I'd say I'm 90% sure, but maybe do more research.
@@KindHappyLove was about to say something similar, v90 SD cards work great for almost all codecs on a7S3
@@mirrorlessny yeah I'd be really surprised if they can't handle all of the A7 IV video options.
Peter, would you be able to please let me know if A7S-III cages would fit the A7-IV?
It does. It’s literally the same body. The battery grip works as well.
*Any chance you could do an A7c vs. A7IV comparison?* I’m looking at buying my first camera to start TH-cam, and use as a webcam for zoom, and general social media use. The A7c + 20mm f1.8 lens is likely what I’m looking at for total $3700 AUD. The A7IV is $4200 AUD with no lens.
I want to ensure that if I’m investing in a camera that the quality is high with a crisp image that will hold up for years, and look professional. Yes, the content matters, however, if I’m spending money and can control the video quality that’s a big step forward for me. I would rather save, and spend a little more money if the quality difference is that much. Cheers.
Love my FX3 and mi S3, but this new option sounds very interesting
I bought the A7Siii for video first. Loving 🥰 it. Thanks Peter.
Thanks Peter! Based purely on budget, I'd go for the A7IV. What about form factor between the two? Are they so similar that the A7SIII cage will fit the A7IV?
Have no idea if the cage will fit, don’t have the camera anymore 🙂
i was waitting the a7iv and i ll probably buy the R6 D: seems the most solid choice if you are new to the market.especially if you are video oriented, no crop(1,07 is no crop) good low light decent lens choices.
Definitely Sony has better lens selection than RF right now. A7iv does internal 10bit 422 video and has full size hdmi. I would say A7iv is still better than R6.
@@techy1433 well R6 has also 10 bit internal, the full size hdmi for me is no issue even though i would prefer a full size but i will not commit to a brand only for that .... that crop is big, i had the S5 and damn man so big
I think 10 bit in the R6 is only in Log
@@markeverett3917 yeah only in log, update i m back in S5 xD
Will be probably getting the a7iv, because I usually take pictures, but good video is great to have.
I think the bad rolling shutter on the a7IV is a big deal so I think the a7SIII is still the overall winner for video (but it depends on what you shoot). But I would love to see some of the new tech and features of the a7IV come to the a7SIII in a firmware update (focus map, the variable shutter speed, focus breathing compensation, and animal eye AF in video)
A7IV is the perfect hybrid and would make an excellent b-cam for videos.
I have the A7s3 and was going to sell and buy the A7IV but I’m a little underwhelmed with A7IV video wise, the crop at 4k 60 and rolling shutter put me off, plus I can still get banging pictures with A7siii. I also thought it would at least get the A7Siii screen, but hey ho you can’t have it all.
Couldnt agree more Peter, well worded for diplomacy haha a7siii bangs
I do video AND photos. My personal important features on a Sony Camera are: very good lowlight capability, very good and fast autofocus, ability to crop if i do photos, High framerate because i love to edit SloMo, 4k isn´t really important to me, as the most people don´t realize any difference on the picture. 4K would be interesting only for croping while editing in Full HD, Nice stabilisation in case i´ve forgot my Gimbal... So to compare these favorite features on both cameras, i think the A7 iV would be the better choice for me. Because: i can get a smooth SloMo already with 60fps. Off course 120fps would be nicer, but this would be the only compromise i would have to take. The A7 iV is also capable to shoot in low light as the A7s3. Higher ISO than 100´000 isn´t really necessary in the most cases. In both ways, ISO in that extreme high level ALWAYS causes Noise. For both cameras there is a border until noise takes over. So higher ISO until 400´000 (A7s3) doesn´t mean a better Quality and it actually doesn´t make sence unless you want to shoot experimental things..... So the A7iV is absolutely enough in the most cases, when it comes to Lowlight Performance, SloMo, fast Autofocus, Log´s and all other features, wich both cameras have.
Getting the A7S3 tomorrow! Thanks for convincing me further 😄 Whats the song name btw!?
Which cf express card are you using on the a7siii?
I answered the first question correct by looking at the harsh light on the right the a7siii dynamic range displayed a slight better image on that side