Honestly, less than what I was expecting it to be. I would have thought it would be a lot better than the Canon R6, but those two are extremely similar
The A7siii becomes blurry at high ISO because the noise gets in the way of the details. Here, having more pixels means that the sharpness is better preserved.
Lmao you're both incorrect The A7IV's dual native iso is at 3200, and between 3200 and 12,800 ISO, the a7iv will look better in low light. Past 12,800 ISO, the A7Siii's dual ISO kicks in, and it will blow the IV out of the water :)
yes but the lowlight test is done with a pretty good lighting inside his office, which results in a better image. But I have seen other tests and it was really impressive.
@@davidglukh6473 I trust my eyes. Whatever the numbers were, the A7IV preserved more details at ISO 102k. The A7SIII got blurry due to noise reduction. We'd have to see a comparison in actually low lighting tho.
I would check Gerald Undone video that shows how bad the rolling shutter is. This is a horrible video camera. Why would you want to get your audience sick with motion sickness? There are better choices out there.
@@FelixCervantes There definitely are better choices, but at a price. I have shot with an a6500 for a long time until now (which, as you know, has horrible rolling shutter) and I never noticed it. The a7IV will be a welcome upgrade for guys like me who can't shell out the cash for an a7SIII or R5, and want it to be a little stronger in stills than the R6.
I am so satisfied with Sony A7iii even though it could be considered as an old camera this day. However, the footage from A7IV looks amazing. Huge improvement from its old brother.
10 bit is no game changer? active stabilization is no game changer? af improvements are no game changers? focus breathing compensation is no game changer? damn i want this camera so bad!
@@julieannhobbs6456 the short answer, your focal length becomes magnified. For example if you have a 100mm lens on your camera it is now more like a 150mm lens.
I'm going from the A6000 after 7 years of use to the A7IV. I'll probably have an amazing experience lol. It pays to be behind the latest tech for a while the new stuff is always super impressive.
Unconvinced by your High ISO test, industry professionals know grain and noise live in the shadows, you weren't in low light, you were in a room correctly exposed with either natural or with artificial light, try this with just a candle on your desk or at night on a dark street corner, that's a real low light high ISO test for noise.
Yeah but call it rubbish and you won’t receive a unit in the future and you won’t have content. Literally ignore everything in product reviews unless they’ve bought it themselves.
People need to keep in mind, that if there is a good enough light source in a room, then cranking up the ISO to 102,400 will certainly have little noise. Lots of manufacturers use this trick. A true low light test is actually in very low light, like a dim room or exterior late in day. Not a lit room. You can see catch lights in his eyes plus soft box LEDs in the room and window light. However Matti is right the ISO looks clean in his footage at this ISO. (show us a camera like the older Sony A7iii or A7ii would handle this same scene with same lighting, that I would like to see, to prove how much better this camera is from earlier generations). If you have strong LEDs in room, would changing ISO matter as much? (maybe in backgrounds in room where no light is hitting?)
Amazing hybrid camera! Love the quick dual dial to switch between stills/video which also switches the settings too! It's definitely a very neat upgrade. I wasn't expecting 10bit 4:2:2 or Scinetone and they gave it to us! I was hoping for 240fps in HD though but that's just me
One group that doesn't get mentioned enough in these conversations is journalists and IMHO this is an absolutely perfect camera for them: great low light, dual cards, unlimited record time, PD charging, 10fps bursts and good ergonomics.
Haha are you kidding me?! I am not at all underwhelmed by this, this is exactly what I needed to upgrade from the a7iii. The a7siii is just barely too much for what I do, this is perfection in every way. I am happy with every single spec, I wasn't expecting we would get 4K 60 at all to be honest.
@@plantxvibe9571 No, a fully calibrated monitor as I am a colorist. I noticed it also later in the video with both the A7siii and A7iv footage. Not sure what picture profile he is using or if he uses a LUT over his footage - but look at his lips and fingers. Way magenta.
@@mahektailor4542 but we are talking about a phone sensor, that is tiny compared to even apsc size sensor and you have to think Sony have got to balance the price point with the specs and the other cameras they have to not overcut their other camera sales putting 4k 60 no crop imo would make the a7SIII quite a bit redundant imo because the only reason then would be to get the a7sIII Is for the 120p. And as you can tell by the low light performance so far, it's really good
A comparison would be fitting an engine to a motorcycle to do a sub 10 secs 1/4 mile vs putting the same engine in a truck. Going to take a whole lot more grunt to get the same time.
@@richrollin4867 You're asking why a camera manufacturer isn't outsourcing its processor to apple or Samsung? Bc they'd increase the cost too much. Canon provides line skipping, it's not unheard of. The screen is awful, esp compared to competition.
Can the Sony a7IV film 4:3 4k for long periods of time?... I currently have the GH5, might upgrade to the sony next year... gh5 good although would prefair 4:3 on 4k 30/25fp3 for ticktok 9:16 & youtube 16:9, Awesome video :)
i've been a nikon guy for 20 years, and now i have the same dilemma. i think canon has still better ergonomics, but 20 megapixels are a bit disappointing. sony has a better lens ecosystem too (for a non pro user that sticks to the holy grails of lens)
Do you have all your sony picture settings somewhere? My colors never look like your colors. It's always muddy and I'm not entirely sure why. I'm rocking the a7iii with the gmaster 24-105 f/4. I know heavy vlog lens but ya boy is on a budget and I will occasionally toss the $130 16mm 2.8 on if I can't get wide enough
Just bought a A7c for personal car photography, do you believe I should return it and wait for the A7 IV to release since we really don't know when with the shortages etc?
Just get the A7C for half of the price of a A7 IV, if the a7 iv had full frame 4k 60fps i'd see me spending twice the money on it but paying double the amount for just 10 bit isnt worth it at all. Also the form factor of the A7C is an advantage worth mentioning for video imo, at least when filming handheld
@@FerrariRari I still think so, granted I thought the a7c was $2k and not $1.8k. I think if you’re going to do video production as a business that you really should get this one for the 10bit. Which means slog3 is money, which means dynamic range is fully utilized. However, just content creation, I believe there is an argument to be made for a7c
@@mattih i dont want to crush the hype for how good these cams are in Low light, been shooting the a7s3 at 100fps in the dark a lot…BUT: theres a HUGE difference between actual low light scene OR (as in this case) a weill lit subject, that is perfectly exposed even at iso 100k. Slog starts getting noisy when its dark AND underexposed, but only in its lower 3rd of dynamic range. So if you still expose correctly iso 100k can be absolutely fine. But if you dont light the subject so well it would be much much worse
5:23 it looks like the A7IV is sharper/more detail. The A7SIII looks like it has “skin smoothing”on or something. The lines on Matti’s forehead isn’t as defined.
Am I crazy or does the A7IV look more natural for skin tones than the SIII? Matti looks a bit too orange on the SIII. Disappointing they cropped 4k60 so much (was hoping for 1.1-1.2 at most) and wish the touchscreen was higher reso (at least 1.44), but this looks incredible for the price.
One thing that would be helpful for me would be a comparison with an A7 III. How much better? That’s what I use as my main camera… Is there any clear benefit to replacing/upgrading it?
Yes, better AF is one of them. I reccomend you to watch also a video from Julia Trotti - she was using a7III as a professional wedding photographer and she said that she will upgrade. check it out to get another point of view. I liked her review
I’m currently in the market for a camera upgrade. From Canon. I do red carpet videography now with some lifestyle stuff, but lately clients have also asked for pictures. So I def need a hybrid cam. My current canon body and the sigma lens i pair with it are great for pics, but my videos don’t look as cinematic as I’d like and I want to book more lifestyle gigs, so I think switching to Sony is a better investment for me. Thanks for this. I’m keeping my canon kit for pics or to rent out to others but you’ve convinced me to switch to Sony.
Thanks for the review Matti. Another great video. Not so much expecting more capability but want it to be not much more $$$ compared to current options.
I thought that I would be underwhelmed by the specs and features of this camera and was sure that I wouldn't be upgrading from my a7III unless it was to the A1. Now I have to rethink that. So far it seems the a7IV could be a real contender. It's more than I thought it was going to be.
Can you do a camera recovery comparison. For example under expose by 3 or 5 stops and correct in post to see how they cope? I think high iso test ship has sailed.
Hey Matti if I have a iPhone 14 pro max and I’m a very beginner photographer and creator, I do this only on vacation and for fun should I buy this camera?
Can someone confirm , if the camera was placed in a gimbal & taking a running shot of the subject does it still create the rolling shutter issue? I understand that only rigorous handheld movements will cause it but just wanted to know if this can happen in gimbal as well?
Why do you guys keep saying "oversampled" video? It's not oversampled. It's downsampled. If it goes from 7k to 4k, it is downsampling. Oversampling would be like what many cheap devices do to cheat specs, where they have a less than FullHD sensor but (badly) produce FullHD videos by oversampling an HD sensor into FullHD media. Oversampling is also what 4k TVs do with non 4k media to give it an artificial sense of a higer resolution.
The only underwhelmed thing in it is the 4k 60fps supper 35 instead of no crop. They never do it, never make a perfect camera. From photography point of view, it's a great camera, don't know what else could a photographer want. Video side, the crop in 4k 60fps is killing it. Sony could have had a title of a perfect camera just like that, 4k 60fps no crop in A7IV, be it some lesser read out, 8bit only, idk, just have 4k 60fps no crop and there it is, a camera that blows out any competition. Price would be right, photography and video good... pretty much perfect balance. now it feels crippled. Even though it's a really nice camera with plenty of things to offer, but didn't make to the finest. Just because what, fear of cannibalizing sales of A7SIII? But that's a whole other set of customers (in this segment A7SIII and FX3 are biting each other), A7R line - different field entirely, A1- luxurious class for the finest. Cinema cameras? Regular content creators won't buy them anyway, those are for studios and large scale productions, only a handful can afford those systems on their own. Many times I just wanna go and beat crap out of the marketing guys for ruining things that could be dream come true for the masses.
I'm speaking out of ignorance honestly, so take this with a grain of salt, but I think there are technical limitations that cannot be overcome at the intended entry pricepoint. I don't think the decisions Sony is making are purey market-based. Some, sure. But there are real world limitations to what they can pack into a camera at a $2.5k pricepoint. I mean, look at the Canon R5. It boasts 8k but it overheats so goddamn always that it is barely a useable feature. Sony's cams at least deliver on their specs. Can Sony make a hybrid with a huge sensor, high megapixel, and 4k60 or even 4k120 without running into similar overheating issues? I honestly don't know. Frankly, for A LOT of content creators, the specs will work just fine. For myself, I'll probably get the FX3 and then sell my a73 to try and fund a stills cam in the A7R series. I think that selling "the perfect camera" at $2.5k is probably far too low of a pricepoint IMHO.
Would you say that this could be a good option for "birding" (fast- moving birds) etc .... but, VIDEO ? I'm wondering about the AF .... Or would the A7III be enough ?
Great info! I'm thinkng about joining team Sony. I mostly shoot talking head footage in 4k 30. I am debating between the a7IV and Cannon (R6?). My only hesitancy is that, side-by-side, the Cannon footage seems to have punchier, more vibrant colors and skin tones out of camera. However, colors look good in this video! Do you think that I can achieve Canon (or better) colors out of camera (without grading)? Thanks again!
I’ve been a Sony user for years and I work at a production facility that uses FX3 & FX9. I just bought an R5 as the color is great with hardly doing anything to it. Sony color info is great so I can eventually get the Sony to look great.
Not familiar with all the Sony models as I shoot with a different brand. Innocent question - is the A7IV almost as good as or better than the A1, except fps?
Just amazing both camera and Matti .... 😊... Amazing review with damn good looking cinematic shots with great narration.... awesome job both Matti and Teppo...
I was holding out for this.... Predominantly shooting video, so wanted good low light + at least 4k 60fps no crop (especially as I will be using wide lens). Now I'm wondering should I just fork out the extra for the A7siii which is more geared to what I'm doing but I didn't want to pay so so much :D
If you look at the gold TH-cam plaque when he is comparing the ISO at 102400 between the two cameras, you can notice the noise in the A7siii. I couldn't see that same noise in the A74 clip!
I am just a hobbyist photographer and the A7IV is for me... Vistek already have my money. Also I am proud of all the Canadian tech youtubers like Lew and Gerald that you mentioned all the way to you, Peter and Linus.
To the untrained eye I think its much of a muchness, but when you put them side by side I preferred the look of the A7S3. But for me this would be a real winner for point and shoot youtubers that don't have the skill or the wish to do full colour grading like you, Matti. For me, the ideal vlogging camera is something that has good enough colour without the need for colour grading and amazing stabilization. Shooting with my A6400 is painful for vlogging because if the lack of IBIS.
Hi, Between A7 IV and A7R IV which one has speedier autofocus acquisition and better tracking and by how much. please help me to make the buying decision, I feel if the AF performance is equal or close then going for higher resolution is better.
How about test shots of the Sony a7iv 4k crop 60fps with Sony 16-55 f2.8 lens? The new Tamron aps-c Zoom lenses and the Sigma new aps-c Zoom lenses. Also, do several similar tests with Fuji aps-c prime lenses for Sony e-mount: Fuji 16mm f1.4; Sigma 19mm f/2.8; Sigma 30mm f/1.4; Sigma 56mm f/1.4.
Sony a7s3 will always be better at low light. I'm not talking about at 400000 iso but anything slightly about the a74 highest iso. Will def get one to replace my OG a7r3 and keeping the a7s3. Anyone know what the max shutter is for flash use? That will be the determining factor
Since even GoPro does 5.3k in 60 and 4k in 120 so in reality it should at least be that sadly. The low light is the real only difference. They have to step up the stats there and the in body stabilization if they are going to charge 10x
@@Pfagnan it makes no sense. imagine phone companies trying to protect last years phones by crippling this years phones. as tech moves forward everything is supposed to get outdated. its a lazy move by sony.
I am not a professional photographer. Could someone explain if the 1.5 Crop in some of the video modes would have a large or small effect on the video quality ? Thank you.
Were you expecting more??? Or is exactly what you want?
How warm is it out there?!! I'm in a winter coat already!! It looks awesome Matti 🔥
I’m quite happy with what this camera has to offer. I’m switching. Sorry canon.
Honestly, less than what I was expecting it to be. I would have thought it would be a lot better than the Canon R6, but those two are extremely similar
This is exactly what I want and need...the problem is I have no money...lol
It’s a $2500 camera idk what else people could want from it besides no crop in 4k60 but that’s about it. Fantastic camera that’s gonna sell like crazy
The lowlight was surprisingly better on the A7IV. I think you're right, the over sampling must be helping.
The A7siii becomes blurry at high ISO because the noise gets in the way of the details. Here, having more pixels means that the sharpness is better preserved.
Lmao you're both incorrect
The A7IV's dual native iso is at 3200, and between 3200 and 12,800 ISO, the a7iv will look better in low light. Past 12,800 ISO, the A7Siii's dual ISO kicks in, and it will blow the IV out of the water :)
yes but the lowlight test is done with a pretty good lighting inside his office, which results in a better image. But I have seen other tests and it was really impressive.
@@davidglukh6473 I trust my eyes. Whatever the numbers were, the A7IV preserved more details at ISO 102k. The A7SIII got blurry due to noise reduction. We'd have to see a comparison in actually low lighting tho.
@@davidglukh6473 You can take a look at Gerald' undone review on the A7IV he has shown that the A7IV is better by 3 stops ^^
I am going to pre-order one as its got what I asked for (especially the 10bit colours)
Thanks Matti for this video
Heck yea 🙌🏻
I would check Gerald Undone video that shows how bad the rolling shutter is. This is a horrible video camera. Why would you want to get your audience sick with motion sickness? There are better choices out there.
@@FelixCervantes There definitely are better choices, but at a price. I have shot with an a6500 for a long time until now (which, as you know, has horrible rolling shutter) and I never noticed it. The a7IV will be a welcome upgrade for guys like me who can't shell out the cash for an a7SIII or R5, and want it to be a little stronger in stills than the R6.
@@FelixCervantes what would you suggest is better for video S1H has terrible autofocus so say
Mine is being delivered today!!! With a 24-105 & 200-600. Can't wait!
I am so satisfied with Sony A7iii even though it could be considered as an old camera this day. However, the footage from A7IV looks amazing. Huge improvement from its old brother.
Feeling kinda good with my R6 right now with the no-crop 4K 60fps
It's the flip out screen and faster burst mode for me. Really missing that on my A73. The rest really no game changer (mainly doing photography).
Yea it’s the “little” things in the end that make one camera better for your shooting 😊
I'm the opposite. Love my screen on my a7iii. I
10 bit is no game changer? active stabilization is no game changer? af improvements are no game changers? focus breathing compensation is no game changer? damn i want this camera so bad!
Honestly what about the 33 megapixel !!?? Thats a huge difference in my world !!!
@@marcelr.4627 now they can't buy A74 coz they have a73 😄 so they bark like this 😄😄😄
Why do cameras never have a 2.7k option? Something in the middle with no crop. That's so frustrating having a 1.5x on 4k60
Laughs in Blackmagic
Yeah...so frustrating....2k is also better
What does it mean if it has a crop in video?
@@julieannhobbs6456 the short answer, your focal length becomes magnified. For example if you have a 100mm lens on your camera it is now more like a 150mm lens.
@@julieannhobbs6456 I shoot a lot of real estate and need the wide, 14-16mm. So this is really unfortunate because the crop makes it a 21,24mm lens
I'm going from the A6000 after 7 years of use to the A7IV. I'll probably have an amazing experience lol. It pays to be behind the latest tech for a while the new stuff is always super impressive.
Just bought the A7IV, big step up coming from A6300. only Still waiting for my 24/70 GM II. Will be an amzing setup!
Unconvinced by your High ISO test, industry professionals know grain and noise live in the shadows, you weren't in low light, you were in a room correctly exposed with either natural or with artificial light, try this with just a candle on your desk or at night on a dark street corner, that's a real low light high ISO test for noise.
yeah, that test was so crap... But hey, he can't roast the company which gave him a free equipment ;)
@@eM4rio They’re not free. They’re review units that have to be returned or sent on to the next reviewer
Yeah but call it rubbish and you won’t receive a unit in the future and you won’t have content. Literally ignore everything in product reviews unless they’ve bought it themselves.
If you say you need a low light condition to test the iso just try sony a7iii 51200 iso on the sunny day.. Is it still good 😆
There were enough shadows and a7 s3 was visibly mushier in the same light, take that!
People need to keep in mind, that if there is a good enough light source in a room, then cranking up the ISO to 102,400 will certainly have little noise. Lots of manufacturers use this trick. A true low light test is actually in very low light, like a dim room or exterior late in day. Not a lit room. You can see catch lights in his eyes plus soft box LEDs in the room and window light. However Matti is right the ISO looks clean in his footage at this ISO. (show us a camera like the older Sony A7iii or A7ii would handle this same scene with same lighting, that I would like to see, to prove how much better this camera is from earlier generations). If you have strong LEDs in room, would changing ISO matter as much? (maybe in backgrounds in room where no light is hitting?)
Out of 6.7 million choice’s of a74 videos I selected this one first 🔥
I appreciate that 😊
@@mattih I like you beat the Sony premier too 😂
👏👏👏
What up dude. I am interested in this camera , can't wait to hear your take on it. What wide lens do u recommend
Amazing hybrid camera! Love the quick dual dial to switch between stills/video which also switches the settings too! It's definitely a very neat upgrade. I wasn't expecting 10bit 4:2:2 or Scinetone and they gave it to us! I was hoping for 240fps in HD though but that's just me
Bonjour , le mode scène a disparu de la molette , cela veut dire que ce n'est pas un apn pour faire des images sport ,, ??
One group that doesn't get mentioned enough in these conversations is journalists and IMHO this is an absolutely perfect camera for them: great low light, dual cards, unlimited record time, PD charging, 10fps bursts and good ergonomics.
Hi Matti! I have 2 lenses for my Sony a6300. That’s a ASPC camera right? Will those lenses fit this Sony a74? Thanks.
Haha are you kidding me?! I am not at all underwhelmed by this, this is exactly what I needed to upgrade from the a7iii. The a7siii is just barely too much for what I do, this is perfection in every way. I am happy with every single spec, I wasn't expecting we would get 4K 60 at all to be honest.
The A74 at 102400 ISO looks great!!! I wouldn’t even be able to tell if everything was filmed with that hahah!!
Haha actually looks really good right???
There's a pretty gnarly magenta hue
Are you watching it on a phone ?
@@plantxvibe9571 No, a fully calibrated monitor as I am a colorist. I noticed it also later in the video with both the A7siii and A7iv footage. Not sure what picture profile he is using or if he uses a LUT over his footage - but look at his lips and fingers. Way magenta.
This is exactly what I was expecting for the price! A little bit bummed by the crop in 4k60 though
Its just they crippled it . . Even iphone does 4k 120
@@mahektailor4542 but we are talking about a phone sensor, that is tiny compared to even apsc size sensor and you have to think Sony have got to balance the price point with the specs and the other cameras they have to not overcut their other camera sales putting 4k 60 no crop imo would make the a7SIII quite a bit redundant imo because the only reason then would be to get the a7sIII Is for the 120p. And as you can tell by the low light performance so far, it's really good
@@mahektailor4542 cmon man, you think these sensors process the same amount of data with these sizes and codecs?
A comparison would be fitting an engine to a motorcycle to do a sub 10 secs 1/4 mile vs putting the same engine in a truck. Going to take a whole lot more grunt to get the same time.
@@richrollin4867 You're asking why a camera manufacturer isn't outsourcing its processor to apple or Samsung? Bc they'd increase the cost too much. Canon provides line skipping, it's not unheard of. The screen is awful, esp compared to competition.
Can the Sony a7IV film 4:3 4k for long periods of time?...
I currently have the GH5, might upgrade to the sony next year...
gh5 good although would prefair 4:3 on 4k 30/25fp3 for ticktok 9:16 & youtube 16:9,
Awesome video :)
this camera is pretty incredible, now I really struggle to decide between this one and Canon R6 👀
Same here! : S
whatever you end up getting, get me one too mate
i've been a nikon guy for 20 years, and now i have the same dilemma.
i think canon has still better ergonomics, but 20 megapixels are a bit disappointing.
sony has a better lens ecosystem too (for a non pro user that sticks to the holy grails of lens)
R6 all day ! Uncropped 4k50 wins all day… 20mp is plenty
@@donovanmortell8380 codecs and overheating?
Different lenses/fstop on the 102400 ISO test? Much more background blur on the A7Siii.
Do you have all your sony picture settings somewhere? My colors never look like your colors. It's always muddy and I'm not entirely sure why. I'm rocking the a7iii with the gmaster 24-105 f/4. I know heavy vlog lens but ya boy is on a budget and I will occasionally toss the $130 16mm 2.8 on if I can't get wide enough
Just bought a A7c for personal car photography, do you believe I should return it and wait for the A7 IV to release since we really don't know when with the shortages etc?
The background looks more cyan/saturated in the a7iv footage than the a7siii. Example 5:22… is that just from a difference in the grade?
probably, Gerald said the color is in between SIII and A1
Always great to see your camera reviews as they are more on how it films. Not overly specs specs specs.
Which would you pick for video between the A7C and A7IV ?
I Second This Question ! 😩
A7iv for sure if you want to spend a little more. The extra dollars go a long way with 10 bit 422
@@BlakeDavis42 Even With The Crop In ?
Just get the A7C for half of the price of a A7 IV, if the a7 iv had full frame 4k 60fps i'd see me spending twice the money on it but paying double the amount for just 10 bit isnt worth it at all. Also the form factor of the A7C is an advantage worth mentioning for video imo, at least when filming handheld
@@FerrariRari I still think so, granted I thought the a7c was $2k and not $1.8k. I think if you’re going to do video production as a business that you really should get this one for the 10bit. Which means slog3 is money, which means dynamic range is fully utilized.
However, just content creation, I believe there is an argument to be made for a7c
Skipped the premiere to watch your review! All my questions answered here!
10 bit 4:2:2, flip screen, updated color science is all I needed to hear before upgrading from the iii
Hey Matti did you throw a noise reduction filter or anything on those high iso clips? That footage is absolutely insane
Nope nothing! Straight out of camera
@@mattih i dont want to crush the hype for how good these cams are in Low light, been shooting the a7s3 at 100fps in the dark a lot…BUT: theres a HUGE difference between actual low light scene OR (as in this case) a weill lit subject, that is perfectly exposed even at iso 100k. Slog starts getting noisy when its dark AND underexposed, but only in its lower 3rd of dynamic range. So if you still expose correctly iso 100k can be absolutely fine. But if you dont light the subject so well it would be much much worse
5:23 it looks like the A7IV is sharper/more detail. The A7SIII looks like it has “skin smoothing”on or something. The lines on Matti’s forehead isn’t as defined.
Am I crazy or does the A7IV look more natural for skin tones than the SIII? Matti looks a bit too orange on the SIII. Disappointing they cropped 4k60 so much (was hoping for 1.1-1.2 at most) and wish the touchscreen was higher reso (at least 1.44), but this looks incredible for the price.
One thing that would be helpful for me would be a comparison with an A7 III. How much better? That’s what I use as my main camera… Is there any clear benefit to replacing/upgrading it?
Yes, better AF is one of them. I reccomend you to watch also a video from Julia Trotti - she was using a7III as a professional wedding photographer and she said that she will upgrade. check it out to get another point of view. I liked her review
I think this is going to be a great B-cam! The FX3 is my main cam and I’ve been using my old A73 as a a B-cam but this will match much better
same here!
How to set an AF to keep tracking a person/head/eye while you have objects in the front?
Would this be perfect for rolling shots as well? I like to take shots of motorcycles and looking to get into gettin rolling shots and short videos.
What’s with the banding in the background at 7:02 I hope that’s the 8 bit codec
Long time Canon and Lumix user and I just purchased the A7iv. I'm looking forward to it showing up in a few days.
When is it available for purchase? 😭😭
I’m currently in the market for a camera upgrade. From Canon. I do red carpet videography now with some lifestyle stuff, but lately clients have also asked for pictures. So I def need a hybrid cam. My current canon body and the sigma lens i pair with it are great for pics, but my videos don’t look as cinematic as I’d like and I want to book more lifestyle gigs, so I think switching to Sony is a better investment for me. Thanks for this. I’m keeping my canon kit for pics or to rent out to others but you’ve convinced me to switch to Sony.
Thanks for the review Matti. Another great video. Not so much expecting more capability but want it to be not much more $$$ compared to current options.
I thought that I would be underwhelmed by the specs and features of this camera and was sure that I wouldn't be upgrading from my a7III unless it was to the A1. Now I have to rethink that. So far it seems the a7IV could be a real contender. It's more than I thought it was going to be.
Thanks for reviewing A7IV. Can you use an external monitor and the flip screen monitor at the same time? Thanks!
How much extra would you pay for 4k 60p with no crop???
How perform in 4k 60fps in low light?
Can you do a camera recovery comparison. For example under expose by 3 or 5 stops and correct in post to see how they cope? I think high iso test ship has sailed.
Do you have the option to record raw using Atomos Ninja V?
I always thought Sony had better AF than canon. 😳
Very excited for this camera
Can you suggest a budget wide angle zoom lens for sony A7IV ?
Hey Matti if I have a iPhone 14 pro max and I’m a very beginner photographer and creator, I do this only on vacation and for fun should I buy this camera?
What lens were you using for the photos?
I ordered one for our youtube channel. Thanks for the review. Switching from Canon to Sony. Now I just need some lenses.
🤔 I can see this video before the Sony announcement video. Is that supposed to happen?
Thanks for the review Matti. I waited for almost a year for this camera. Very disappointed to hear that 4K 60 frames is cropped.
Email Sony to complain. Maybe a software update for limited 4k/60 full frame
Love your camera reviews Matti there always great 👍.
7 different creators uploaded at the same time for this camera. Your push notification was first🤙🏼🤙🏼🤍
Awesome review, as always
Is there a crop in 1080 60 and 1080 120p? Or is it just 4k60 there is a crop?
Can someone confirm , if the camera was placed in a gimbal & taking a running shot of the subject does it still create the rolling shutter issue? I understand that only rigorous handheld movements will cause it but just wanted to know if this can happen in gimbal as well?
Why do you guys keep saying "oversampled" video? It's not oversampled. It's downsampled. If it goes from 7k to 4k, it is downsampling. Oversampling would be like what many cheap devices do to cheat specs, where they have a less than FullHD sensor but (badly) produce FullHD videos by oversampling an HD sensor into FullHD media. Oversampling is also what 4k TVs do with non 4k media to give it an artificial sense of a higer resolution.
The only underwhelmed thing in it is the 4k 60fps supper 35 instead of no crop. They never do it, never make a perfect camera. From photography point of view, it's a great camera, don't know what else could a photographer want. Video side, the crop in 4k 60fps is killing it. Sony could have had a title of a perfect camera just like that, 4k 60fps no crop in A7IV, be it some lesser read out, 8bit only, idk, just have 4k 60fps no crop and there it is, a camera that blows out any competition. Price would be right, photography and video good... pretty much perfect balance. now it feels crippled. Even though it's a really nice camera with plenty of things to offer, but didn't make to the finest. Just because what, fear of cannibalizing sales of A7SIII? But that's a whole other set of customers (in this segment A7SIII and FX3 are biting each other), A7R line - different field entirely, A1- luxurious class for the finest. Cinema cameras? Regular content creators won't buy them anyway, those are for studios and large scale productions, only a handful can afford those systems on their own. Many times I just wanna go and beat crap out of the marketing guys for ruining things that could be dream come true for the masses.
I'm speaking out of ignorance honestly, so take this with a grain of salt, but I think there are technical limitations that cannot be overcome at the intended entry pricepoint. I don't think the decisions Sony is making are purey market-based. Some, sure. But there are real world limitations to what they can pack into a camera at a $2.5k pricepoint. I mean, look at the Canon R5. It boasts 8k but it overheats so goddamn always that it is barely a useable feature. Sony's cams at least deliver on their specs. Can Sony make a hybrid with a huge sensor, high megapixel, and 4k60 or even 4k120 without running into similar overheating issues? I honestly don't know. Frankly, for A LOT of content creators, the specs will work just fine. For myself, I'll probably get the FX3 and then sell my a73 to try and fund a stills cam in the A7R series. I think that selling "the perfect camera" at $2.5k is probably far too low of a pricepoint IMHO.
Would you say that this could be a good option for "birding" (fast- moving birds) etc .... but, VIDEO ? I'm wondering about the AF .... Or would the A7III be enough ?
Great info! I'm thinkng about joining team Sony. I mostly shoot talking head footage in 4k 30. I am debating between the a7IV and Cannon (R6?). My only hesitancy is that, side-by-side, the Cannon footage seems to have punchier, more vibrant colors and skin tones out of camera. However, colors look good in this video! Do you think that I can achieve Canon (or better) colors out of camera (without grading)? Thanks again!
I’ve been a Sony user for years and I work at a production facility that uses FX3 & FX9. I just bought an R5 as the color is great with hardly doing anything to it. Sony color info is great so I can eventually get the Sony to look great.
@@daniellove162 thanks!
Not familiar with all the Sony models as I shoot with a different brand. Innocent question - is the A7IV almost as good as or better than the A1, except fps?
Just amazing both camera and Matti .... 😊... Amazing review with damn good looking cinematic shots with great narration.... awesome job both Matti and Teppo...
How is the menu setup? Better like the a7slll or not great like previous Sony menus?
I was curious about the stabilization.
I was holding out for this....
Predominantly shooting video, so wanted good low light + at least 4k 60fps no crop (especially as I will be using wide lens). Now I'm wondering should I just fork out the extra for the A7siii which is more geared to what I'm doing but I didn't want to pay so so much :D
The low-light looks great. As a guy who shoots fuji right now a crop is nothing for me lol. Always love your content bro! 👊
If you look at the gold TH-cam plaque when he is comparing the ISO at 102400 between the two cameras, you can notice the noise in the A7siii. I couldn't see that same noise in the A74 clip!
What about the rolling shutter speed difference from the A7SIII?
Also changing modes and filming perspective?
Anyone can help? I can’t decide what’s better between a7iv and a7iii . What would you choose for shooting videos?
OMG Those fall colors are on fireeee
Skin tone under A7IV is much improved as compared to very orangish under A7SIII.
Please make a video comparing this camera with riv... I am trying to decide between these two and it would really help
Anyone’s can help? I can’t decide what’s better between a7iv and a7iii . What would you choose for shooting videos?
That color grading is ahhh mazing!!
I am just a hobbyist photographer and the A7IV is for me... Vistek already have my money. Also I am proud of all the Canadian tech youtubers like Lew and Gerald that you mentioned all the way to you, Peter and Linus.
Awesome introduction for sony A7 IV Matti, loved it ;)
To the untrained eye I think its much of a muchness, but when you put them side by side I preferred the look of the A7S3. But for me this would be a real winner for point and shoot youtubers that don't have the skill or the wish to do full colour grading like you, Matti. For me, the ideal vlogging camera is something that has good enough colour without the need for colour grading and amazing stabilization. Shooting with my A6400 is painful for vlogging because if the lack of IBIS.
Hi, Between A7 IV and A7R IV which one has speedier autofocus acquisition and better tracking and by how much. please help me to make the buying decision, I feel if the AF performance is equal or close then going for higher resolution is better.
What is your favorite full frame camera for filming onewheel videos?
I use a 5d mk IV and it's beyond time to upgrade to mirrorless.
Hows does the 4k/60p cropped compare in quality to the 4k/60p a7siii full frame?
Very interesting about the lowlight.
which camera good for wedding photography r6 or a 7iv can you give me a suggestion pls
Should i wait till dec when the A7r Iv go on sale? I only shoot photos, no videos
how does the screen look overall and outdoors?
Could you pls tell me if its suitable for product photography?
Yes!! Been waiting for this camera for a long time, thanks for this review! But if a bummer about the frame rate but it looks pretty decent 👌
I'm confused is this the new camera to the A7S III?
How about test shots of the Sony a7iv 4k crop 60fps with Sony 16-55 f2.8 lens? The new Tamron aps-c Zoom lenses and the Sigma new aps-c Zoom lenses. Also, do several similar tests with Fuji aps-c prime lenses for Sony e-mount: Fuji 16mm f1.4; Sigma 19mm f/2.8; Sigma 30mm f/1.4; Sigma 56mm f/1.4.
Sony a7s3 will always be better at low light. I'm not talking about at 400000 iso but anything slightly about the a74 highest iso. Will def get one to replace my OG a7r3 and keeping the a7s3. Anyone know what the max shutter is for flash use? That will be the determining factor
Hmm should maybe buy this one next for my new TH-cam channel 😛 camera gears are so addictive ! Thanks for the good review as always
Already pre-ordered 😀 Love the upgrade from the a7iii
Since even GoPro does 5.3k in 60 and 4k in 120 so in reality it should at least be that sadly. The low light is the real only difference. They have to step up the stats there and the in body stabilization if they are going to charge 10x
Thanks for the video. Very informative. Think I’m preordering this to step up my YT game in 2022
Would you upgrade if you had the a7r3 for photos ?
Hey! Thanks for review! Does it has a video recording time limit?
An option to shoot at 4K60 Full frame even at 8 bit would have been good..
They want to protect the a7Siii which makes sense. I am still waiting for it the last 7 weeks.
@@Pfagnan it makes no sense. imagine phone companies trying to protect last years phones by crippling this years phones. as tech moves forward everything is supposed to get outdated. its a lazy move by sony.
Plenty of people will just buy another camera brand.
Deal breaker for me. I shoot in 4k60 90% of the time
I am not a professional photographer. Could someone explain if the 1.5 Crop in some of the video modes would have a large or small effect on the video quality ? Thank you.