How Beauty Standards Shift Over History
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Fun! And very interesting how the perception of beauty has changed depending on wealth disparities.
And hilarious little bonus to know John prefers 38.22.36 (boob man lol!) and dimples ❤️
bro had his ideal specs at the ready 💀
Now being "thicc" or muscular is the attractive feature in both men AND women. This makes a lot of sense as natural (not chemically enhanced) muscle is naturally attractive through evolution, indicating good health, fitness and ability to survive. But is also in modern times an indication of wealth, you eat good food high in protein and vitamins, you have the spare time and income to invest in time working out and going to the gym etc.
Here we have 11 minutes of hard mewing and nose breathing. Thank you lord mew
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based lmao XD
5.5 minutes actually
Your father is so articulate and well spoken.
I found the mews back in 2016 they changed my life, i can finally breath, and im alert. Mews if your reading this thank you.
So calming to see you two discuss together, I would like to see more of you just discussing various topics and exchanging opinions
OMG professor, trust me those measurements rarely exist. Especially that 22 inch waistline you reference, certainly not in adulthood. It s very Jessica Rabbit. Nonetheless it made me chuckle. I love the professor and hang on to every word.
Research shows that people prefer a healthy glow from food with carotenoids then a tan from sun/tanbed. Remember it's needs to be a healthy balance, you can over eat it and it won't be as attractive. it's shows that you are healthy and have a healthy diet meaning that you can produce healthy off spring.
Even today. High status or rich people can be considered more attractive simply because of their wealth and what they wear.
All these rappers, celebrities and such are deemed very attractice but on a more primal level there are many regular people way more attractive than them. Take out the fame and status factor and it would be very different
Water is wet
How exciting to have Dr John Mew back! I love him! Thank you guys for helping us
Good lord your Dad is still active in the mind. I commend you guys for your work.
I've been reading Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Winston Price. This reminds me of his observations from about a hundred years ago.
Are you the same girl who commented on the new JP Sears video? This might be the first time if seen the same commenter on two completely unrelated videos.
@@jasonlavallee8195 it's very possible.
They talk as two James Bond villains 🤔
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poor people didn't eat much sugar did they
I would love more history type videos like this! So interesting
I'd love more of these videos. Discussions between you two are unbelievably fascinating. This kind of blew my mind.
The 20's photo is super interesting. I'm not sure if her face really is that down-swung or the lower eyebrows (unlike the sky high ones we prefer today), plus the way she is looking up which make us see the whites below the iris, AND tilting her head down to de-emphasize the chin all contribute to that impression. I bet if she smiled with her teeth, though, we'd see excellent teeth.
38-22-36? That’s not even possible naturally for 99% of the population without extreme tight-lacing, rib removal and/or implants. I have a 22 inch waist but I’m also petite 95lbs so the thought of expecting someone to have DDD size breasts at that body weight/waist size is simply preposterous 😂 these beauty standards need to go. Nothing about 38-22-36 is naturally healthy
i just like thick girls with large behinds.
Yes, Julia Roberts has a pretty smile, but unfortunately has other problems. The horizontal wrinkle she gets between her mouth and nose when she smiles is indicative of calcification issues in her body. She doesn’t look healthy to me and if I remember correctly she underwent IVF to get pregnant. Not good,
Very interesting video. There's an old saying that I think has a lot of truth to it: " You're not ugly, you're just poor ".
Wish I would’ve known about your theories when I was a teen. And wish I knew back then allergies are caused by a ruined gut, not genes.
I’m still struggling with mewing yet seemingly improving in understanding the technique, progress, if any, is slow. But I can defintely feel my nose and cheeckbones being pressured apart when doing the right technique. Whether they’re actually moving I don’t know.
Chin tucking keu
wait what do you mean that allergies are caused by ruined gut??
@@_homha5242 I too would like to know this. Especially if he means food allergies.
@@_homha5242 Exactly as stated. It is not genetic, the very studies that people say supposedly prove that it's '60%' heritable. Clearly show that it is NOT genetic.
These are studies done on twins. And if I remember right, only in 60% of the cases it was so that either BOTH had it or NEITHER had it.
That means in 40% of the cases one had it but not the other.
This CLEARLY indicates it's NOT genetic. And yet people keep pushing that myth.
If I'm hearing the echoes right, it is actually a ruined gut that causes it. At least, many many people make their symptoms go away by healing their gut. No other means have been shown to heal allergies.
So stay clear of anti-biotics. I personally am still trying to heal. There have been some improvements but also some setbacks. I personally don't have access to a lot of raw foods, which is problematic, especially when it comes to milk which is extremely processed.
@@faramund9865 do u know about ayurveda? There they say every single health problem starts at gut....
Informative video, I would like to add though, that persons portrayed in the images were not necesarilly considered attractive in those time periods. What can be concluded about them is that the portrayed person(s) had status and were looked up to.
Peasant babies in the beginning of last century fed by a bottle? I highly doubt! On the other hand, I am amazed how unpopular is breastfeeding in so- called West, especially in North America, while is the most healthy and beneficial way of feeding infants, while easiest and least expensive.
I've respected your work, and mewed, for about 7 years. This video is ridiculous. These are all very old ideas, that can be easily contradicted, and it's evident you're both literally guessing at it even in the video. People tend to be attracted to people whose faces somehow resemble their own, (most people have probably noticed that many couples look like they could be siblings). The wealthy (eating softer food) who could afford to request paintings, to buy sculptures and paintings and to view paintings, would have fallen victim to this mentality too, explaining how the "less developed" faces in artwork started and continued. Then, in more modern times (i.e. your 20's photograph) most people in western cultures were eating softer food. They'd see that 20's girl, and feel that familiarity-attraction. See? Another bit of guesswork, that also makes sense, whilst debunking the guesswork here. You can probably think of tons more. Are only poor, hard diet people attracted to people like Ryan Gosling? Are only rich, soft diet people attracted to him? What humans find attractive is an extremely broad, nuanced, interesting science. This is supposed to be a science-based channel. If you're going to guess at it, is it really worth cheapening the science of your channel with it?
So what you're saying is diversity is not only not our strength but we naturally don't want to miscegenate any one pushing it is an unnatural monster?
Got it
@@finnmacky7106 You've cheapened your own comment by misreading mine. Thank you for further highlighting, (by grossly oversimplifying) that, as I stated, the science is extremely broad and nuanced and that the above theory was guesswork, like the Mews' guesswork. You'll see ethnic diversity not trumping the above guesswork though interestingly! Take Prince Harry and Meghan Markle for example. Different ethnicities, similar faces. Humans are interesting!
People are attracted to good growth
@@rockyp32 YOOOO rockyp32 I've now seen you on TH-cam, Reddit AND TGW!!!
when did you start mewing? How drastic are the changes?
I got about the worst orthodontic treatment as a child - they made me use hooks on my braces to draw my maxilla BACK using an appliance around the back of my head - and i was a very complaint child, pulling it back hard thinking that would make my face better. I resent these people for doing this to me. Now i need tens of thousands in surgery most likely.
@@escapetheworld7738 i have been for years
i don't understand why this is still allowed, theyre evil
Oh man I’m sorry to hear that 😞
Yes, I had the braces & headgear in the 1970's, now in my sixties and mid face is collapsing!
Amazing discussion thank you!
Regarding the black and white farmer image peoples’ lack of “dimples” or hollow cheeks as you will, I believe it’s because they had improper eating posture due to a lack of table manner necessity. You say they were poor and lived in the countryside, so even though they developed wide and positively grown faces from the tough diet, they probably were not concerned with sitting upright, mindfully eating, keeping elbows off the table, etc. This caused them to not allow their cheek muscles to atrophy. They most likely were hungry after a hard day’s work in the field or such, and they ate rapidly to satiate themselves and had no concern or ceremony to stand on with regards to impressing anyone with table manners.
Look at this clip from the first “Pirates of the Caribbean” film. The aristocratic Elizabeth begins eating properly as she has been brought up to do while dining in a formal setting. Once Captain Barbosa informs her that there’s no need to act like that and mentions that she must be starving, watch how she reverts to a primal state and engorges herself on the feast. th-cam.com/video/URhCKYvaPvQ/w-d-xo.html
really interesting insight
Also I believe Dr John Mew was saying that the reason for dimples in the other photo was that bottle feeding had started. I believe he was referring to the actress with petite cute features although it was ambiguous and some might have believed he was referring to the Islanders.
I disagree with him, it's quite clear that they _do_ in fact have hollow cheeks. In fact their faces remind me of some of the faces found in hunter-gatherer groups like the Hadza, although of course they are not African so they have differing features.
Most hilarious comment I’ve ever read 🤣🤣🤣
Fashions change, beauty endures. According to evolutionary psychology, beauty is universal. Most people agree as to what is beautiful regardless of ethnicity. It is about symmetry, optimal development and a low number of genetic mutations.
That’s totally not true because in my country I swear there are people who have symmetrical face and healthy body but considered ‘not beautiful’ just “average” !!
And there are fat people with no symmetry on their faces NOT at all but they are considered “beautiful” to “extremely beautiful” just because they have green eyes , blonde hair or fair skin
Yeah believe it this is the beauty standards in where I live.
Evolution isn’t real. Darwinism is a religion
@Laughingathwrld thank you, that was the expression I should have used.
If you did enough of a meta-study of the literature on attractiveness, you’d find that even on a population level there’s very little consistent data on what’s attractive.
I being a straight cis-man didn’t pay too much attention to the perceptions of female beauty (only mine matters to me), but when it comes to male beauty in the eyes of women, the only strong correlations are that the waist to chest ratio needs to be MAXIMUM 0.9 and preferably closer to 0.8, you (generally) need to be taller than the woman looking at you, and your general facial proportions need to be close to average. And although bodybuilders hate BMI, the range of attractive BMI is 21-26 based on the country and urban/rural women. Everything else is completely and utter bullshit because the conclusions have so much scatter it’s basically random. Just imagine, people have spent decades of their lives focusing on ideas of beauty that are absolute horse shit.
I still Mew though, because it improves the quality of my life.
@@sheryla54 lol no... you shouldnt have used either expressions. Low number of genetic mutations? Seriously wtf are you talking about.
Why do you suppose Homer was considered attractive?
Maybe he was immortalized for other qualities.
I’m not sure how accurate their visual assessments really are, you can’t really just look at an old photo with dramatic lighting and determine if someone is truly downswung. You need good lighting and side profile shots to make any sort of assessments. I’m not really sure if they are even considering skeletal phenotypes, Asians tend to have flatter faces, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that their faces are set back.
Wow loved it!! Hope to see more "beauty trends" discussions.
38-22-36, more natural 🤣
38-22-36 is even more curvy than the song "brick house" with 36-24-36!
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Some Mew-tastic opinions up in here
Love your shows they are so informative appreciate you and your Father I have TJD so painful at times 👋🏻🌈🌈💯🙏🏻
Holy mother mary yes TMJ sucks. It's caused me so much agony and discomfort over the years. I found Mew's youtube videos on the subject unhelpful at relieving my symptoms. Heat helps
2:49 Prof. John Mew must have been an admirer of Diana Dors back in the day. 😂
If my teeth are naturally straight, including my wisdom teeth, without ever going to the dentist. Does this mean I developed a reasonable face?
most likely yes.
38-22-36? It would be nice if it existed, huh?
I actually laughed out loud when I heard that. I bet less than 1% of the female population could have those measurements without implants. Just ridiculous and I hope he misspoke
He probably meant 32 because that is not possible at all 💀💀
“The wealthy were fatter.” This is funny. Now everyone is fatter. I would like to know why people develop big noses. Is it related with not getting enough oxygen and the body adapts by making the nose big and making the nose able to process more air in one breath? When I was pregnant my nose became bigger (supposedly, very common during pregnancy, maybe due to more oxygen demands). Thankfully, became normal again after it. It might be the case that big noses and mouth breathing are all indicative of insufficient oxygenation and the body compensates. Instinctively, when I see a big nose or mouth breathing I think of the person having poor health.
Great video, long awaited. Please do more, keep it up!
It is my belief that the reason the women in the grey photo dont look attractive is because they look far to masculine, the physical degeneration and hormone environment of modern society favors creating good femininity
having a weak face(not having big masculine chins and chewing muscles and wide faces) that is still forward grown(more so a thin smooth chin that is still forward) and feminine is what makes females look really good
Excellent discussion! Thanks for the Mews, lads.
mastiha which is a Resin obtained from the mastic tree you can buy it and chew like a gum and the ancient greek would use it like this well. I know you are looking chewy foods.
Can i change the position of my teeth itself to get hollow cheeks?
Hello, I have an overbite without braces and I'm 17. Now my question would be, is it bad if I let my two incisors rest on each other despite the overbite, as if that were my tooth position? My incisors touch each other, but my back teeth don't. My actual tooth position would be when my back teeth are touching but my upper incisors are slightly forward. Is it important that my back are touching for mewing cause idk it feels like when i touch my incisors my face would go longer. And does it give me hollow cheeks when i would do it or rather not doing it?
The best you could do is eat hard food on a daily baisis ,you would have the ancestors beauty treat ,when we were in the jungle
@@bloomp7999 Just like the owner of this channel does.
Turn to the Lord be steadfast to him and believe that he sacrificed his only begotten son that you may have everlasting life in heaven
7:24 couldnt live on milk and honey, lean cuts of meat, hard food required chewing , 8:30
Hello, Mike! First of all thanks for your content. You are changing paradigms by the use of virtual means. I'd like to ask if you could share what's your and John's opinion about what is the best method align bite from side to side. It was great to see John Mew's lectures part 18: palatal expansion in which he explains the differences between each devices. I hope you can share your message despite difficulties you are going trough and get over them.
Thanks Drs Mew!
After doing some days of mewing.. now when I kept my toung upward then I feel like my toung is slipping downward please help me sir
I love the consistent uploading.😍
Certainly a link with industrialisation and capitalism and culture and influencing appearance and what is deemed attractive versus what is functionally best
I wouldn't say Rubens' tastes were representative of what was generally considered attractive, lol
thick women😍
I'd like to know if people actually found those physiques attractive or not in old paintings and such. Because in the era of skinny skinny models a few years back, I was not aware of anyone who liked that.
Gays men liked that
The vocabulary on Dr New Jr is incredible!
Love watching this!!! You could get more fans with Promo-SM!!!
Thats a really interesting video!
Ah, yes Julia Roberts. 😇🍻
John looks like an INTP and Mike an ENTJ
At 09:00 perhaps during the industrial Revolution mothers had to work and were unable to breastfeed for the first 3 years?
Hey Mr Mew, can you make a video about people who can't breathe while mewing? And solution for that problem
It's due to there not being enough space (yet) in your mouth. You probably have a really narrow dental arch which makes it difficult to keep your tongue up without being able to breathe. I think getting mechanical assistance first before trying to mew (not sure though) is your best bet, or you can just do hard mewing (if you can) for a few months until it creates the space required to breathe while mewing.
Get MSE
That's the Dutch "Barbie"! haha
Hi, I got my braces off and don't wear a retainer anymore but i do have like these metal braces/brackets on the back side of my front lower teeth. Should I get these removed they been on for over 5-7 years and am worried.
Thats called a permanent retainer! No need to get it removed :)
What was the name of the people at the end
This video was very insightful
Please, we would appreciate a review of Weston Price's book Nutrition and Physical Degeneration ❤️
Physiognomy is real
What is your opinion on the link between hair loss and malocclusion type II, squeezing the subliminal temporal artery?
Great question
100% my hair loss went wild when I got an upper appliance
@@rockyp32 Can you elaborate on what exactly it did?
@@theawesomesausage it’s honestly the main thing… cause if ur mewing with bad head posture growth won’t improve. Look up McKenzie chin tucks. Just overall u want ur head to in better alignment.. the more the better. Baby steps
@@rockyp32 Look up Brian Dye's video on the matter. It is only applicable if you're young. You need surgery to fix malocclusion when you're older.
thx for that :)
Indeed!
thank
If I mew with an asymmetrical palate, would that further accentuate my asymmetries?
from my own experience, it decreases the asymmetry over time
Yes it does. Nobody in the mewing community understands how to properly address asymmetries and how important it is to do so.
@@Flugs0 Thanks for the answer.
@@Pumpped Thanks for the answer.
@@Pumpped so what do we do to make it symmetrical?
The funny thing is both mike and john are extremely bad looking in the EXACT same way they describe is caused by mouthbreathing.
John mew has a long midface and recessed jaw.
Mike Mew has a recessed maxilla
The 2 greats in action
thnks for real info
Pale skin is a sign of low testosterone which is why it's appealing on women.
I prefer the faces of the 20'ies. I don't like the wide, square faces.
I agree with Dr John the girl in the 50s with a slightly downs swung face looks nice but it’s still not gorgeous. Sure it might have been popular to have a resesssed chin back then but just cause it’s popular does not mean it’s good looking. Also to the contrary where some people have perfect facial form but they are still not beautiful. I think that means they have reached their genetic potential but if they had a recessed face it would look worse.
Big roman nose. I see that's what they call my nose.
8:00 , 10:50
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Great talk
We know that Dr Mew is against surgery when there are alternative paths or if the surgery isn't supporting their views and beliefs into what is right. However does anybody know what pathway they recommend or do not reccomend regarding a recessive mandible and maxilla? I cant find any information on what TYPES of treatment that they say we should look into (or to avoid)
I can hear it.
Great video
Homer was born in 9th century B.C not 3.000 years ago, but 11.000 years
White beauty standards dont exist. Its just white families tend to be more stable financially and can afford proper orthodontic treatment and a diet of whole/natural/hard foods while their kids are young. If minority groups had this they’d largely be viewed as just as attractive with the exception being the difference in nose shapes due to climate
wtf... the phenotype is just completely different it has nothing to do with chewing
and whites eat mostly worse food than the ''poor'' countries our food is literally the most polluted and dead matter on this planet. compare that to natural food in india
When you are a hammer everything looks like a "white" nail🔨🔨🔨
@@shaftofwisdom I didn’t say they’d look the same i said just as attractive so im confused why you brought up phenotypes.
@@shaftofwisdom that simply isn’t true..anyone who went to school in America can testify that out of every demographic at their school (public ones atleast) it’s white kids who have a packed lunch the most. And that lunch box usually consisted of nuts, a sandwich, some fruit, carrots..ect.
What a wholesome vid doctors! Loved it!😁😃
Thanks for the video!
very enlightening, thank you
I've heard so many times of tough food but until now I don't really know what it actually means. How to create my diet to obtain the proper hardness of food I'm suppose to adhere to. Everything available in shops seems easy to eat so how to tackle with it. Mash potatoes, boiled rice, vegetables, roosted meat and so forth aren't any challenge for my mandibles. Dr. Mew, could you be more specific? Give some examples, but realistic ones, nobody eats nuts all the time.
Try chewing mastic gum. It's 10x tougher to chew than regular gum, and apparently, really works.
@@orduni90 I tried, thank you. But that's not the point. I also think about children who should eat non-processed and tough food at the same time, hence the question remains open.
@@orduni90 where can i find it?
@@juanvi3979 Amazon
great video
K.
So it s all about good growth
Then for adults looking for improvement it s already clapped
Blast out content, no need to make it so refined. You need to get as much out as you can before your case.
God I was hit with the ugly stick
"Samantha en Michael" great example 😂😂😂
i have perfectly straight teeth and wisdom teeth straight, but i do not have good face structure. i have receded chin and narrow face. ive never worn a brace
Amazing video keep them up daily uploads or every other day!
Mike Mew,I’m from New York and I wanna meet with you
The 1960's face looks like she has a "smoker's face".