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- Instagram: @CamMacky - / cammacky
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I forgot to mention the weight of my setups.
Komodo - 7.5Lbs RIGGED OUT - NO LENS
Canon R5 - 1.6Lbs BODY ONLY - NO LENS
I’d say a good starting point would be around 5-6Lbs
This information is aimed for up and comers for sure. Any seasoned filmmaker knows a lot of this already and has their own opinions on it. This is just my theory and suggestion to those wondering if they should get a gimbal or not.
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My coffee b-roll just won't be cinematic unless I shoot in 8k with a $2k prime lens and the newest DJI gimbal.
Bahahaha
Don’t forget you also need the newest drone too
Yeah man..dont forget it has to be atlas orion ana's
I love low key jabs hahaha
😂 and who has ever seen coffee b-roll in the cinema. Coffee b-roll is never cinematic, it’s Youtubic. B-roll doesn’t even exist in cinema, it’s an old ENG broadcast term that Peter McKinnon confused his minions into adopting for random shots of anything that isn’t him talking into his camera.
I love how you do these videos! I feel like it’s a question a new cinematographer asked you in a real conversation and you just went on a rant and then turned it in to a beautiful peace at the same time
*me looking over at my gimbal* "I DON"T NEED YOU ANY MORE!!!"
Hahahaha! They’re def useful, but I’m just trying to do my part of killing the useless hype
@@cammackey I find the RS2 very useful when I have to do shots where I am stretching out my arms and doing weird movements. But I agree, sometimes the gimbal just gets in the way. Trying to move smoothly, and then suddenly having to use the joystick and everything is just ruined.
Love this man! I'm actually planning to do a video on gimbals myself and when to/not to use them so this was some good inspiration for ideas! Keep making epic films brother, I always love watching your work!!!
Great point, and I agree 100%. Don't use complicated tools you don't need. UNRELATED QUESTION: What's the cool small top handle on your R5?
I love that you touched on this subject. There is not a lot of good content on this subject. Would love if you did a tutorial video on techniques in different situations as well as focusing techniques in fast pace situations. This is an area I have been practicing in for like the last 3 months, just shooting my wife outside and making her run around like a nut. I'd love to hear some of your tricks/techniques though! As always, love the content and your work!
I was gonna add some to this video but got lazy haha. I’ll def cover that in another video tho!! And dude that’s amazing, that’s super good practice. The most important thing with manual focus and learning your lens like a muscle memory. Have her so unpredictable moves to practice keeping up with focus
Yes! My cammackey video in the morning, always a gift (with a cofee in hand).
Ayyyy awesome to hear man. Love me some morning TH-cam chill time myself too
Cam, thanks for that, heard weight helps but never seen it demonstrated. I am surprised how much difference it makes. Def going to try this.
Agree with the gimbal application, i do cars and for this you want shots that don't detract from the lines "smooth", so i like to use a gimbal. For the rough rodeo look, handheld all the way.
It depends on the application and what the look is, as you say.
1000%! Imma have to do another video helping people see when to use both
If you are considering a Glidecam as a gimbal then I agree.
There are only a few motions that require motorized gimbals.
I was actually in the middle of trying to figure out a rig for my mirrorless. I was thinking of playing around with putting weight further away from the center of gravity but is still balanced when you hold the handle.
Because right now, I have a good amount of weight on the camera but I can tell that my side to side twisting motion needs more weight and think more weight away from the center of gravity would help?
physics...
Oh yeah you’re def thinking deep on it hah!!! For side to side movements (whip pans etc), I try to increase my contact points for more control. For more tracking type side movements, I let gravity hold the weight down but keeping a light touch on the top handle
Love the content always great
Wow, I really really love the color of your R5 footages. It looks like film. Can you do that with Komodo footage? I just ordered my Komodo last night. Hope it could do that also.
This is the exact reason why I use the RED One MX
Mack! Do you prefer shooting handheld with a heavy rig and IS turned on or off? Been testing a lot with a rigged out and well balanced bmpcc6k but im not really satisfied yet with the results when walking..
This video was awesome. Too the point and super helpful. Any recommendations on how to make a mirrorless setup have more weight without adding like a monitor and battery packs? I have a cage and a top handle as of right now.
Sadly that’ll make the most sense. It’s be silly to just add random weight, better to add useful weight. A monitor helps a shit tone, and never hurts to have a good battery that’ll last you forever.
@@cammackey Appreciate it! Thanks for the advice.
Love the Vibe !
Mate you channel rocks!!!!!!!!!!
Love this content! I know you feel the global shutter is overhyped in a way, but how do you feel about it versus a sensor readout like the BMPCC6K which seems abysmally slow? Worth the upgrade in that case or still a non-factor for you?
I def like the look of it. I jsut hate how people think it’s like a make it or break it feature, as if it’s going to make their work look better. I think it’s more of a solid feature rather a must have. So with that said, even if the Komodo had rolling shutter I’d still own it because it’s perfect for my needs.
this guy drops gems 💎💎. Im in
Well done man!
I had a gimbal a couple years ago. It broke on me. Best thing that ever happened.
How does this Canon R5 rig looks like a RED? It's all squared & stuff, with an extra monitor on top?
and very lovely lighting in that garage
Thank you thank you 🙏🏽 a hit half assed but if you saw my ambient colors video from the other day it’ll make mroe sensor lol
I heard that there is a monitor that can control komodo wirelessly. It seems to be specially made for komodo. Does anyone know?
Its brand seems to be called PORTKEYS, and its model seems to be BM5 WR. If you have used it, please tell me, how does it feel to use it with komodo?
I want to buy one and try it recently, thank you!
If I have to choose only one stabilizer, it will be the tripod hands down...it's so versatile, it's great even for the handheld look if you balance it properly.
Oh man fir me it would be all handheld haha. I’ve been trying to force myself to do more sticks tho. Gonn try some narrative work soon
@@cammackey Same for me mate ahahah I love the handheld look! But sometimes is nice to have some stable shots in the video.
i discovered your work around this time last year when you were using the XT4, ended up buying the camera based on your videos. wish i got the canon now tho, lol. have any words to soothe the soul, cam?
Well I wish I got the canon back then too but it wasn’t put sadly lol!! The Fuji is actually great for video image quality tho. I’d be happy to use one for my TH-cam filming.
Hi mate! Good job, congrats!!! What a nice color and texture with your r5...tou have special tips? Thanks a lot from francia
Video coming soon!
@@cammackey perfect!!
I'm totally agree with you but I need my gimbal, I shot with a fuji xt3 (no IS, no ibis) and without the gimbal, my image shakes too much, for me its it's unusable. Maybe I should add more weight (a monitor, extra batteries could help) but even with this extra weight I don't know if the final image would be useful. For the moment I'll stick to my gimbal, but for sure, if someday I get a Komodo or a more weighted camera, I'll use it without a gimbal because I love the movement it comes out!
Btw, Love your channel (following since long time ago but never write a comment before), I really don't understand why you don't get much more subscribers!
We’ll see I’m not saying you HAVE to ditch a gimbal. I’m just trying to help people understand how to properly shoot handheld. Weight weight weight. And dude thank you for hanging around!!! It’s been fun developing this channel, can’t imagine where it’ll be down the road!
Nice composition from the garage liked it👌 . To shoot garage shots you have used RedKomodo or CanonR5 ?
Komodo! But it was all lit, when using lighting you can even out cameras easier
Interesting! weight is good but ibis can be good sometimes too.
It’s def handy. It’s better than just having a mirrorless in hand with no IS! I was trying to get like a high action type shot, but there are upsides to it for more slower pace shots!
Just watched "Biutiful" by Inarritu, the whole film was hand-held, and right after watching the movie I found your video :)
Dude I still haven’t seen that film!!! I’m waiting till I have a moment to really focus since it’s a different language
Thanks for mentioning this. I didn't know the film. Just watched the trailer and it looks like a strong film.
@@choobracer Yes, it is indeed a strong film, by the way, if you have the chance watch also "Babel" from the same director, I think it's a masterpiece :)
Don’t get why this channel don’t get more attention. I really like stuff u do!
🥲 thank you 🤟🏽
Because it sells hard to swallow pills
I own a komodo but need a second camera for pictures and misc. content / b-roll. Would you recommend the R5, R6 or a7siii?
I have a few Canon L lenses, but also 4-5 sony lenses for my a7s2 and a6300 so trying to figure out the best direction to go in
Man rn in freakin loving the Komodo paired with the R5. Colors match up well when using CST. And now I just have a handful of RF glass and so life’s just simple now haha
Every technique has its purpose and should be used thoughtful. The purpose of shooting handheld is achieving an spontaneous documentary style. So instead of saying “I just love handheld” it’s better to say “I love the documentary style that handheld is providing.”
so true. weight is everything.
The same as to gimbal should slowly apply also to word cinematic....
Nice bike
04:00--- (100% 👊🏼) Great content as always!
TLS Mattebox?
Can I use a gimbal turned off just to add weight to make my shots look smoother?
Nah seriously I have started going handheld recently after using a gimbal extensively and it really works for some scenarios. It all depends on what you are shooting. Dynamic shots like in this video, hand held is better but on shots with lots of camera movement and not much subject movement then gimbal it better for me.
Yeah there’s a time and place for both! People are starting to think this video is a “you should never use a gimbal” though I never said that... it’s telling those people who want a gimbal but don’t know the difference, that they don’t need one.
Does an easyrig help or actually transfer more jitter from your hips?
Easy rigs are awesome for longer form/ documentary type stuff. Like when you need your subject to be payed attention too and the words they’re saying. I hate using an easy rig for anything else tho, limits too much movement for the way I shoot
Hahah, "why is that blur kind of slanted? like no one gives a $#@$#" . I remember when this "documentary" guy got one of the first R6's last year and complained about overheating and the bad rolling shutter. I thought he was being paid by Sony to complain like many of the TH-camrs. Love this channel.
TO be honnest i haven't touched my DJI SC Gimble for a while... lol
Fill a glass almost to the top with water and, without looking at the glass, practice walking quickly on uneven ground without spilling a drop. I bet most skilled camera ops can almost jog without spilling a drop. I think stable footage comes from bracing your core while your arms and legs act as a unified suspension system.
Yeah 100%. I’ll have to do another video on some like handheld basic. It’s all about the thighs and contact points lol
i have a camera that's good for video n such but its incredibly small(sigma fp) even after i add everything its still not enough weight so what im asking is how much weight do you recommend and how could i add more weight if i have the ,monitor,cage,focus,media,handle,and eternal battery shoul di just get beefier products lol
I forgot to mention the weight of my setups.
Komodo - 7.5Lbs
Canon R5 1.6Lbs
I’d say a good starting point would be around 5-6Lbs
But that’s one of the issues with people thinking they want ultra lightweight cinema cameras... buying into marketing rather real world usage.
@@cammackey Wow seeing the difference in weight between the R5 and the Komodo. I never realised the Komodo was that heavy. It might be an optical illusion but I always thought it looked small and compact, I assumed it would weigh (1 - 1.5 KG/2 - 3 Lbs) one and half to two R5's. It's nearly twice the weight of a Canon C500 mkII!
@@danielrussell4122 no no that’s it rigged out!
Did you shoot the talking part with the R5 or Red?
Komodo 🤘🏽
It’s the color for me man so consistent... I bought the Zcam s6 cuz of you lol .. how do I rig it up.?
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 Zcam is still a GREAT camera! Specially for the price. If you were going to spend $6K+ tho.. then there’s better options for sure.
Best part of the S6 is the form factor and metal body. It already has a good weight to it! Just add a cage, side grip, top handle, monitor, and a lens.. you should be good to go. That’ll Prbly get you around 5lbs which should be enough to get micro jitters out.
@@cammackey wow man .. appreciate you for the in depth .. you the goat man .. I already have all this setup .. but still have jitters tho .. I guess I need to practice more handheld shoot ..or add a V-mount battery
@@osasidaeproductions3759 yeah if you’re still getting micro jitters with that then it’s def your technique. I’ll do another video soon on techniques I use
A huge thing that helped my handheld footage was being in marching band. A lot of the foot and weight shift techniques that steady your instrument enough to play while almost running help in the same ways for camera work
Dang that’s badass! And man balance is a whole other topic. I’m super particular with where my monitor is positioned all for the sake of balance.
@@cammackey Im great with my own balance.... just not my rig's balance :)
Am I the only one watching your dog or? Isn’t that the main char in this video???🐕🐕🐕
Not sure why people think u use a gimbal!?!?! Ur style is dope homie!
Haha thank you!!! I still use gimbals when the shot calls for it! But I def prefer handheld majority of the time for the way I see shots
@@cammackey Do u check ur Insta? Im gonna send u some handheld shots with the C70 (HD 120 Body and Lens IS)
I think everybody has a style. Use what works best for you. Whether it’s handled, glidecam or gimble. I know top cinematographers that have a particular inclination to one of these 3 and they all make great content.
In Art one size can’t fit all.
Agreed. But that’s not what my point was. It’s aimed at all of those who ask me if my handheld work is on a gimbal. Obviously top cinematographer aren’t watching this lol.
I think sometimes we forget that there is other options than gimbals. A wheelchair, a bicycle, a steel shopping cart, etc.
Hahahaha, you forgot out thighs and knees too
Haha!! Low-key trash on the "coffee people" right at the end.
THANNNKKK YOOOUUU! Gimbals are ruining filmmaking. It takes skill & planning to use a tool like a Gimbal or a Steadycam. People think they look like Scorsese with a gimbal. No dog they look like a robot
Wait, I thought PM was the best in the world & what he says goes? 😂 Such a huge difference between youtubers and working pros.
Man it is pretty crazy, I hope real filmmakers get on here more and more. I’m just barely getting my career started, I dont know shit compared to legit filmmakers
I fuck with this title, but also, I feel called out hahaha
Hahaha I hope it helps in any way!
Interesting that people would ask if those shots that are clearly handheld were on a gimbal or not. Jesus, if they were on a gimbal, it would be the worst gimbal in existence or it is possessed and you need to call a priest.
Hhahahaha right. It baffles me but it’s literally one of the most asked questions I get. Drives me crazy.
I think to each his own. We all have different styles and these are just tools to express the art. There are cinematographers that do handheld, others use glidecams and others gimbals. It doesn’t make one better that the other.
Use the tools you need to express yourself.
I also believe there are shots you simply can’t nail without a gimbal like these 👉🏿facebook.com/wowtapes/videos/237733570598294/?vh=e
You missed my point. As I said I love using gimbals when they’re called for. My point was for those asking me how I get my handheld to look smooth.. the weight. And to add that they don’t need a gimbal rn if they haven’t learned when and when not to use one.
I didn’t say anything about one being better than the other. They’re all important tools to expressing our vision. They’re not our girlfriends.
Try to shoot with sony zve 10 and Tell me i dont need 😂😂
There are no words capable of fully expressing my hatred of gimbals for run and gun.
They look rad sometimes, but people def are buying into marketing hype thinking it’ll make them or break them. There’s a time and place for everything!
@@cammackey Oh ya for sure. I just personally despise using them lol
@@anthonyhoward-crow4180 same. They’re freakin finicky
@@cammackey for real. Oh this is going well, gimbals aren't too bad. Flip, spin, flip, spin. WTF
I like my gimbal, and how i can put a 85mm on and get usable shots with that compressed look.
I shoot with a streadycam to get the perfect handheld look, lol
I love the floaty look of a steady cam, feels more organic for sure. But I think that’s mainly because gimbal have become super affordable to the point that anyone can get one... so we’re use to seeing mediocre stuff compared to someone who has to put in a lot of work to operate a steadycam
@@cammackey sure, but it's difficult to master. it wobbles too much
@@petrub27 well wobbles are from a bad balance. I’ve learned that you really have to crank down every thing to get smooth gimbal results
*Sells my ronin*
Lol nooooo still a time and place for them!
Olympus beats that with there entry level camera
You missed the point there buddy...
It is nice to see you don't need the Komodo to get the Komodo look. Hand-held with the R5 looks good. Lol.
As far as needing a gamble you have two different issues to solve.The R5 on a gimbal with AF can give you the same hand held look that your are doing with it weighted down. In fact it can do more and save you a ton of time. The Komodo get's rigged up and you have a much bigger gamble. With Komodo's global shutter you have a less active image compared to the R5 and cinema cameras. You're kinda trying to separate what the advantages of global shutter and saying it's your camera work and not global shutter. Well its the combination of both. Shots that would be unusable without global shutter now can be used.
That’s not the point 🙄🤦🏽. I wasn’t going for a gimbal look. I was going for a HANDHELD look. There’s a way to get it and a way not to get it. And I disagree. The arri has rolling shutter and I frequently see it in films. NO ONE GIVES A SHIT THO BECAUSE ITS A FILM and not some stupid TH-cam video. I hope that helps ya understand the point now.
@@cammackey I understand the point. My point was with the R5 and AF tracking a gimbal makes sense. You can get a handheld look with a gamble. You have to adjust the sensitivity setting to be much tighter. You also have to treat the gamble very different to get the handheld look you get. I love the handheld action that you produce. It's awesome. Cine-cameras also treat motion cadence much differently. So yeah Arri and rolling shutter is not the same as a mirrorless footage that has micro jitters, frame warp and has the catch up to a clean image after everything falls apart. And all that has nothing to do with hand-held movement. Motion blur covers some of that up like you stated in your video but sensor read-out becomes an issues with mirrorless cameras. My point is you can use the gimbal to get the same hand held look that you're getting with the R5.
@@cammackey Let's reverse what you are doing and use a much bigger camera like the Arri Alexa LF and rig. Now what do you have to do to get the same hand held footage you get with the Komodo? Now you don't have global shutter and smaller form factor of the Komodo. The minute you say you want hand held with traditional cine rigs the shit hits the fan. I will say gimbals are way over used and used the wrong way.
@@cammackey Thank you for creating the content and sharing knowledge with the rest of us. I appreciate it.
WE NEED MORE COOL HATS NOT GIMBALS:)
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