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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2023
- This video will demonstrate Suzuki AGS hydraulic fluid change process on Suzuki Alto 660cc HA36S.
According to Suzuki, AGS actuator fluid is a lifetime fluid hence you won't find any change interval in owner's manual. Also, dealerships usually don't have any clue when asked for it.
In my opinion, no fluid is a lifetime fluid. You can see in the video that actuator fluid color became slightly dark and gritty since I changed it at 3 years mark. After 5 years, it becomes really dark.
A common recommendation I have seen on Japanese websites is to change the actuator fluid after 5 years or 50,000 km which ever comes first.
The part No. for the hydraulic actuator fluid is Suzuki 99000M24121-135 which I was not able to find at any Suzuki dealership. Also, its aftermarket alternate was hard to find.
After lengthy search, I was able to find "AHF 22 S" by a company Addinol. It could be used where Suzuki 99000M24121-135 is recommended and many others.
addinol.de/products/product-f...
You can buy this product from Addinol's official daraz store
www.daraz.pk/products/ahf-22-... - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Hi.
Really helpful. Got every info required after watching video
My Goodness. Thank you. Please keep making videos. I want to learn
Bro you rock! I was looking to change the actuator oil. Couldn't find the genuine ECSTAR replacement anywhere. Found an alternative, Ravenol GHA-F, but that was also not available anywhere. Saw your video just now, looked up Addinol AHF 22 S and that is indeed available and meets the requirements.
I am glad it was helpful for you
Excellent work, thank you 👍
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Help! 2022 baleno ags. Dont know the shape of reservoir. The tube is not getting inside fully and i cant even empty half of oil from tank.
What about if i used the command discharge oil before i start what you did ?
After fluid change process do i need relrearn because if (discharge oil command)
Very nice and help fill
This addinol is not available in my country .
What do you think of motul multi HF .
it is the same specs of addinol based on datasheet.
Can be use same oil in brezza diesel Amt
My car suzuki dzire has a problem with the transmission controller module (computer) the agency only wants to sell a new module, above B/.3000, very expensive for me, I have read that changing this liquid my car can return to make the learning of the changes. do you think it is possible? thank you for your answer.
Hi, do you solve your problem?
Hi can i use ravia 2210? It is hydralic fluid iso vg 22. Since here in my country its hard to find addinol
Check its spec sheet if it has Suzuki part No. 99000M24121-135
Thank you for the video and all information.
Why you pull out the battery ( - ) cable ?
Again thanks in advance
To avoid AGS unit sucking the actuator fluid when the reservoir bottle is empty during the change procedure. This can happen if someone open the driver side door.
Beautiful ASMR type demonstration
Link to buy the fluid? Would it be suitable for the Tata AMT kit oil? As in your case, neither does Tata know about this service, nor do they have the oil in stock.
No idea about Tata. I am not based in India.
Link to fluid is given in the description but that's for Pakistan only. I came to know from my Indian friends that OEM Suzuki AGS actuator fluid is available in India. If that's the case, better go with OEM fluid
Mene ye fluid use kiya mera axha khasa ags system ka berda garak kr diya same aise e change krwaya its totally disappointing me
Do you know how much time does it take for the fluid to come back to the max level after it is sucked into the unit ?
Never monitored the time
I have Suzuki every 2015 model ato manual dul gear . Recommend AGS oil
Gear oil for AGS transmission is different. It require 75W grade oil. You can buy it from Suzuki dealership.
This video is about actuator fluid change
I have a suzuki solio. What can I use to replace the actuator fluid? Thanks
Usually it's better to change after 5 years or 50,000 km. Whichever comes first
We also use dot4 oil in AMT TRANSMISSION
I have seen Honda Vezel owners using DOT 4 fluid in DCT actuator but I am not sure about Suzuki AMT/AGS. So I didn't took the risk
I also change the oil dot 4 has same the specification
can you tell what is the oil name using for this unit????
@@mdh7372 i suggest you not to use brake fluid in AGS. Brake fluid is heavy as compared to AGS actuator fluid and it will cause corrosion in the system in the long run
@@mdh7372 Ahf 22s
Nice video . Can I ask what is ags actuator?
I have alto vrx manual does it have this?
Alto VXR doesn't have actuator. It comes with automatic (AGS) transmission only. Its purpose is to automatically operate clutch and shift gears.
@@pastewax-pk thanks
Could you make a video about AGS transmission oil or tell us whether it's okay to use kixx 75w or similar "non suzuki branded" transmission oils?
Also what do you think of guard products, such as guard brake oils?
I answered the exact same question on PakWheels forum. Check my reply here
www.pakwheels.com/forums/t/lubricant-discussion-engine-oil-gear-oil/1315150/2994
I changed the AGS gear oil last year, but couldn't record it due to shortage of time. I will try to it next time.
Guard brake fluid is fine. I replaced my brake fluid a couple of days back with Guard DOT 4 (you can safely use DOT 4 where DOT 3 is recommended). So far the experience is good. Make sure you buy genuine Guard product. I bought mine from Daraz because they have a Flagship store, and you will get original product guaranteed.
www.daraz.pk/guard-brake-oil/?q=All-Products&langFlag=en&from=wangpu&lang=en&pageTypeId=2
@@pastewax-pkthanks a lot bro, btw I forgot to check the answers lol I was the one who posted that question.
Also how many ml is needed for cultus brake oil if I do a complete flush and refill. Or should I just top it up, it has 45k km driven and brake oil level is touching the min level.
Also did you change gear oil with genuine ecstar, it costed you 23k and full 3 liters poured?
@@torb69
Brake fluid goes down progressively as the brake pad wears out. Since you have crossed 45k, you must change the brake fluid. Brake fluid change interval is 40k or 2 years, whichever comes first. Follow it strictly to avoid rusting in the brake lines. You need 1 liter for flush.
Yes, I changed the gear oil with OEM ecstar. I changed it 1 or 2 year back I guess and at that time its cost was PKR 16,500. Unfortunately, prices have gone up massively. But still, if you think that it could be used up to 60k km, it's fine.
I noticed a slight decrease in the hydraulic motor oil.. What should I do to solve this problem and should I change the gaskets
It decreases to low mark when you open the driver side door. It's normal.
During driving my suzuki every 2019 model shift the gear into neutral, what is the issue behind this??
Plz help suzuki alto vxl p190f acummelator failed fault .
Can you please give me update about your car with this error
And what is happining thats why you discoverd this error ,
I hzve the same error .. gear alarm light only appears after long drives 2 hrs or more
How much gear oil is added when u change it?
How much acctuator oil is added when u change it?
400 ml
Some days ago I receive my scanner Xtool PS701 Pro, this scanner comes with the funtion "Oil Discharge"
This funtion send all the hidraulic fluid to the tank for changing, you can see how the fluid level goes up.
Scanner cost is Us$240 dollars.
Using a scan tool to discharge the oil is the official method to change the actuator fluid. But the question one should ask is, should I spend that much money on an expensive scan tool as a DIY person?
If you don't use a scanner to discharge oil, not all the fluid will be replaced using my method. This is why I changed the fluid again after a couple of months.
@@pastewax-pk Hi, yes it is, after a long search I found the Xtool PS701 Pro for Us$240 dollars, others scanners with all the maintenance funtions cost twice or more.
I am a Preper, now I am ready for any future repair if is needed.
Best Regards.
Why u disconnect battery before draining oil.
Because the actuator activates when the driver side door opens and fluid is sucked in, and the level drops in the reservoir. I don't want the actuator to run dry if I or someone else accidentally opens the driver side door.
We can mix the newly mentioned gear oil in the old one to fill the difference ?
This is not gear oil. It's an actuator fluid. Be careful not to use it in the transmission
@pastewax-pk i mean Alto AGS transmission oil is the same actuator oil?
@@waqar1130
No, the gear oil for AGS is different. It's Suzuki Ecstar 75W which you can buy from the dealership.
Actuator fluid is hydraulic fluid.
@pastewax-pk so actuator and gear oil both exist in alto AGS?
@@waqar1130 Yes correct
Alto ka gear oil ka level ksay check hota ha bro and dsri bat ka gear oil engine bay sa add hota ha ya nichay kahin say?
Alto ka filler plug neechay sy access hota hai. Lakin asani k liye loog funnel k sath pipe attach krtay hain aur pipe ko filler plug mai daltay hain. Aur phr oil funnel sy daltay hain
have you also changed gear oil? if yes then which one and how was the drive do you feel any difference?
btw loved the asmr type video.
Yes I did change the gear oil but couldn't film it. Use OEM gear oil only. Suzuki Ecstar 75W
@@pastewax-pk right, did you felt any difference was it smoother then
Before or any difference at all ?
@@pastewax-pkI bought all the parts for fix my AMT/AGS module.
I bought a scanner for the system relearn.
My scanner comes with the next option "Oíl discharge"
This option send all the oíl to the tank, you can see how the level raise.
Thanks so Much.
@@khurramkhan4394
I never let my vehicles go past a point where it starts creating issues or drive rough. I change parts, fluids on recommended intervals and in some cases before time. This way, I rarely feel the smoothness after part of fluid change.
You will definitely feel the smoothness in drive if you are changing it after long time.
What about the gear/transaxle oil? Suzuki dealerships don't have SGO gear oil atm. They are offering Suzuki Ecstar or something. Should i go for it? My cultus ags is due for gear oil change.
Don't use SGO oil in your AGS transmission. The recommended gear oil is 75W which comes in Suzuki Ecstar packing only. It's expensive but unfortunately it's the only option.
I recently changed it in my vehicle but couldn't film it due to shortage of time.
could you please film or write a guidance on how to change AGS gear oil please? mine is celerio
That will be very beneficial for us all having amt cars. Mine is Swift zxi + amt
@@pastewax-pkit stated 75W80, is there any possible to use 75W90 other brand?
@@rafiuddinroslan5256
If your owner's manual recommend 75W-80, try find this grade. Otherwise next suitable option is 75W-85. 75W-90 is too thick. You may face hard gear shifting due to this grade
hi ! Will it solve my error for P190f ?
I don't think so. You may need to repair/replace actuator.
Dear sir can we use Dot 4 break oil in this AGS unit botel instead of this odinol oil ???
Don't use DOT 4 fluid in case of Suzuki AGS.
@@pastewax-pk yes
You are right
My AGS unit has lossed due to Dot 4
@@ImranKhan-te9zk
I am sorry for your loss. Unfortunately, many mechanics are pouring brake fluid in AGS actuator.
This misunderstanding comes from Honda Vezel whose owner's manual allow DOT 4 fluid in DCT actuator. But in case of Suzuki, only the recommended fluid should be used. If you can't find the OEM fluid, better match the part number to get the correct aftermarket fluid.
@@pastewax-pk yes some one said Addinoil Fluid formula is same as genuine fluid
7 months since you uploaded this, now please let us know the current condition of the gear shifts and driving ease. Did anything go wrong in the meantime? Did you feel a lot of improvement in the AMT shifts of gears. Thanks.
Hi
@@treadmillrepair754 hi
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you can also use these fluids
MOTUL MULTI HF
mannol Central Hydraulic Fluid
wolf CENTRAL HYDRAULIC FLUID
Unfortunately not available in my country. Only Addinol is available
Mannol central hydraulic fluid 8990 ?
No re-learn needed?
Not with this method because we are not touching the AGS unit.
is it the same things as AGS gearbox oil change?
Gear oil is different. This video is about actuator fluid change
Since the transmission is manual or the gearbox it should be 75w-80
Do we need to change actuator oil because compny don't recommend
Suzuki recommends inspecting the actuator fluid and change after a particular interval. It was not present in owner's manual. I discovered this couple months back from someone that the Suzuki service manual recommends it
That Actuator fluid has anything to do with gear fluid?
No, they are totally different fluids.
Do you know alot about the dzire
@@arielreis7096
I know it's a sedan version of Swift, but it's not available in my country.
I think it's only available in India.
Or ok cool
Wanted to find out about the acutator and the pilot bearing
Ur 100 % right but my conversation with Kc TECHNICA technician they pore 500ml.
I poured back the exact amount that I was able to extract i.e. 400 ml in my case. You should not exceed with "Max" level in the reservoir.
@@pastewax-pk its reduce with the passage of time. Thats fine... I appreciate ur work.... And ur products....Good 👍 work.
Bro kis city se ho AP mjhe b change krwana he can u help my car milage is 77k
@@uzairalitariq747today i changed my own. Very easy
@@pastewax-pktoday i am done 400 he nikal ha . But max level tk 500 ata ha
why did manufacturers of this car make it without available Actuator fluid? Every car model should be accompanied by its spare parts and replaceable fluids once it is rolled out from the factory. Making a car whose spare parts are not available is equal to spelling doom on the same car who would you wish to own such car? Again this AGS gearbox needs lots of improvement where i come from, the car is reporting unusual gearbox failures and buyers would not buy the same car again, given another chance. Manufacturer of this car should act on this before it is too late.
Suzuki OEM actuator fluid is not available in my country (Pakistan). Even though Suzuki is officially doing business here. Apart from that all spare parts are available. Not sure why they don't offer actuator fluid. On the other hand, it's easily available in India.
If you talk about failures, the majority of the modern automatic transmissions are a mess. Almost all of them fail at early stages. I am referring to CVT, DCT, Suzuki AGS. The only automatics that are reliable are traditional torque converter based planetary 4, 5, or 6 speed gear boxes (Disclaimer: make sure you research common vehicle issues before purchasing because not everything with 4, 5, 6 speed is reliable). Even 8, 9, or 10 speed gear boxes are crap.
The truth is we have to learn to live with these automatics. You should learn to drive and maintain them to prolong its life as much as possible.
In case of Suzuki AGS, I drive in manual mode all the time because when I let the computer do the shifting specially on speed bumps or stop and go traffic, it slips the clutch a lot in 2nd gear. This is why vehicles with Suzuki AGS premature clutch failure is very common.
In case of CVTs, never drive aggressively. If you drive in hilly areas a lot, avoid this transmission. Use obd2 device to monitor CVTF temp since they rise crazy high quickly. Personally I saw temperatures rising up to 116C when I was taking the vehicle uphill at speeds of 10~20 kph for an hour due to poor road conditions. This is where you have to stop the vehicle. Using an external cooler is another option. If your vehicle ever faces such temperatures, you should change CVT fluid as soon as the trip ends.
Apart from that strictly follow manufacturer's recommended CVTF change interval. In case of Hondas, it's usually 2 years or 40,000 km which ever comes first.
The point is you can modify your driving behavior and strictly maintain the transmissions in order to prolong its life.
Is posible to find many hidraulic fluid better than original, like Ravenol GHA-F, Pentosin CHF 11s and many others.
I bought all the parts for the AMT/AGS actuator for no more than Us$600 dollars.
One scanner with all the learning and maintenance funtions for cars with AMT/AGS.
My car is a 2019 Suzuki Celerio, remove the AMT/AGS module is very simple in my car If you need some fix on it.
Removing three nuts only plus battery holder, is very easy to do.
Best Regards.
If you have MGP parts distributor you can order the genuine fluid from there and the one you used is for automatic transmission which is totally not correct for this type of actuator. Ecstar fluid has special branded AMT fluid available on order at maruti parts outlet, only that should be used otherwise there is leak in the seal. I am telling you this as i have faced leak issue very recently
The one I used is not ATF fluid. It's hydraulic fluid which fulfills the requirement of Suzuki actuator fluid Part No. Suzuki 99000M24121-135. You can check the ADDINOL AHF 22 S Specifications/Approvals from their website which I shared in the description. Sharing the product page here again
addinol.de/products/product-finder/addinol-ahf-22-s/?lang=en
The MGP distributor you are referring to is in India. I am from Pakistan, and I was not able to find OEM fluid anywhere.
@@pastewax-pkHi Sir, this fluid is for AMT actuator?
Next year my car reach 5 years.
I want to change the fluid.
Thanks so Much.
@@pastewax-pkHi Sir, I need to find a replacement for the AGS fluid.
I try to buy Addinol from many dealers and they refuse to sales.
I don't know what happen.
I am thinking to use Castrol for power steering.
What do you think?
Any help will be appreciate.
After you change fluid.. Can you tell us what now after 1 month??
From Egypt i ask you
Everything is running fine. Actuator and transmission is shifting smoothly
@@pastewax-pk
One last question if you dont mind.. In Egypt we dont have addinol ahf SS 2...what other can replace and gave Same performance??
@@bewhoyouare7852
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عموما عندنا فى مصر
مانول
وولف
موتول
سوائل هيدروليكية بنفس المواصفات و افضل من ecstar نفسه اللي نازل فيها
و مانول ممتاز
MOTUL MULTI HF
mannol Central Hydraulic Fluid
wolf CENTRAL HYDRAULIC FLUID
@@ahmadserag100
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عرفت ان وولف CHF
موتيل DEXRON 3
انما مانوول في كذا نوع زاي موتيل
@@ahmadserag100
ايه بقى النوع اللي في مانوول لان ليسه ماجتش ناحية الشركة دي لان بجمع بدايل علشان الظروف اللي حضرتك شايفها الحاجة بتختفي
Unfinish video, it's can be work or not??
sir kindly apka Instagram fb ya contact num mil skta hai plz guide krden ye oil khn s milyga meri gari alto 660cc ak lakh plus chal gyi hai gear shifting smooth nh hai so plz halp to change my ags oil
Bhai ye oil mai nay daraz sy order kia tha. Es ka link video ki description mai diya huwa hai.
Ye baat yaad rakhna k ye actuator fluid hai, gear oil dosara hota hai jo gear box k neechay sy change hota hai. Ap ko dono change krwa lynay chahiye.
AGS ka gear oil sirf Suzuki dealership sy milay ga aur us ki price 3 liter ki PKR 18,000 tak ho gi aj kal. Ap pata kr lyna.
Gear oil ky aur bhi boht se aur sasty brnad mojood hai..kya wo use nhi kiye ja sakty ?
Ap ky pass vxr hai ya vxl ?
Bhai g same yehi problem my swift dzire m aa rhe h ghear nhi leg rhe h amt h so plz send your contact number
How many kilometres driven