I mentioned SUB $2,000 camera in the video, when in fact, the body only is $1500. I was looking at the kit when I made the sub $2,000 statement. So this camera in fact is only $1,500 which is insane for what it offers.
In your older video about shooting concerts you mentioned that you like to stop the aperture down a little. With the new AF systems do you feel like you would open up the aperture?
@@Bad_Wolf_Media If you have Best Buys in your area, check them. They've been getting a LOT of them in stock this past week. Camera shops as well. They're popping up finally.
I had a 7D mark II and if I hadn't already touched an R5, I would be in heaven with the R7. Just having autofocus, EVF, and rotating touch screen. Incredible camera for $1500. I think for anyone who has been holding onto a 7D mark II and wants to get into mirrorless (and can't afford the R5 or R6 or doesn't want full frame), will not be disappointed. Just keep in mind that for bird photography, beware shooting birds in flight in electronic shutter mode. It really warps the background and their wings.
I’m in that boat! Just went from the 7D to the R7. Mirrorless definitely helps so much more with seeing the image in the view finder! Saves me a lot of time and helps me to get more shots !
@@Goodwishes67 oh, that's so exciting!! I bet you're as floored with the autofocus as I was. So many more keeper images. And when you're shooting wildlife, having the simulated exposure in the EVF makes it instant feedback so you nail the exposure way more often too (especially with birds with a bright sky as the background). Congrats for getting into mirrorless 👏
Thank you! Yes it’s so helpful honestly! It’s saves me such a headache sometimes trying to get focus! I shoot primarily bald eagles and went they hunt it’s so fast and i need the focusing system that the R7 has! Eventually looking to go to the R5 but for now, I’ll try this out!
The rolling shutter issue has proven to be overblown. Most of the birding forums see it, but it's not bad as people are saying. It happens, it's rare. If you're still not convinced, you can just use mechanical shutter and not have to ever worry. I have yet to experience it, or at least, notice it.
@@Philtho to notice issues with rolling shutter, it really depends on what you are shooting and how. For what I shoot, it's not great and I'm shooting on the R5. So I'll use electronic shutter for some things but I mostly use mechanical or electronic first curtain.
I picked up an R7 a couple months ago and after two weddings, a running track shoot, and a few model sessions I can say that I love shooting with it. I’d love to see how this camera pairs with canon’s sharpest prime glass given that it’s resolving north of 80mp on a full frame basis. Thinking of making a 1.2 purchase to bring out the full potential of the sensor.
I was wondering what the compact density of the R7 chip would be equivalent to for full frame and I think your 'north of 80mp' is probably right. Thanks for that.
Just rented and shot with the R7. This is one I will be buying. The buffer fills quickly but it is manageable. I used the RF 100-500mm with it and that gave me a lot of reach on the long end acting like a 800mm f11. No problems with run and gun wildlife shooting and even with the smaller equivalent aperture I could still get decent subject separation. Found minimal difference in weight and similar size to the R5 (no grip). Took me a minute to figure out the controls and set up back-button focus but very usable. Body only for $1500 makes it a deal and a great second camera body.
There is no "smaller equivalent aperture". Is the same, sensor is just smaller and crops the image but it doesn't change the luminosity of the projected image.
Been researching this camera for my step up purchase. I mainly do landscape and wildlife, but your video told me more useful info than I have seen on other channels. Sports and many wildlife shooting scenarios are similar with the speed and sometimes erratic motion. Very helpful information. Thank you.
Received my R7 June 24, body only and not having a battery grip like my 7DMk2 doesn't even bother me. The auto focus system and how efficient it can communicate and transfer photos to my smart phone is something that I very happy with and my capture rate is much higher shooting birds in flight. I paired with the RF800 f/11 and the reach is insane.
Canon! People needs new RF-S glass! Just body is not enough! And not everyone has like 3.000$ for RF full frame L lens! Needs affordable 1.4 or 1.8 prime lenses as well as good zooms!
A very fair and honest review. I've been using my R7 since the release date. I've keep seeing the camera compared to the R5 which is really apples to oranges for the reasons you mentioned. For $1500, the R7 is a good camera. Thanks Jared!
I think it’s a big compliment to the R7 that people even bother to make the comparison to the R5 and R6, then factor in that it’s pretty comparable in many areas and with faster frame rates I think that the R7 is a superb camera and for the price it’s punching well above its weight. Just look at the price difference between what it’s being compared to.
@@745images I have both the R5 and the R7. I sold my R6 to buy the R5. Both the R7 and R5 serve different purposes for me. You are right in that the R7 does pack a punch, great value of features for the price. I was hoping with the new 1.6.0 firmware update that the R5 would have gotten the AF tracking that the R7 has. I can't understand why Canon didn't do this.
@@cjm8160 I primarily shoot birds which are always far away so I do a lot of cropping. My R6 did a great job. I kind of felt like if I went for the higher megapixels of the R5, the photos would be that much better. In many cases, they are, but did I really need the R5. Probably not. If you're considering the R6, I think you'd be very happy with it. I know I was. Sometimes I think I should have just kept it.
I have had the R7 for two weeks now. I use it for wildlife with a Sigma 150-600C lens and I have found the autofocus to be shockingly good. My keeper rate is much higher now. I have "tested" the limits so I have attempted shots I would normally not even try. Some work, some don't, but that is how you figure out what the camera will do. I have even shot at ISOs up to 20,000, yes, they were noisy. I have found the battery life to be good. At 1570 images the battery still shows 2 bars.
I just got my r7 yesterday so not as much testing but agree so far. Even with my sigma 150-600 which is supposed to have focus issues on new mirrorless cameras my keeper rate is way up and I can usually just point the camera in general direction of subject and it locks on instantly
Thanks for the feedback. As you know, a number of reviewers (e.g. Duade Paton, Jan Wegener, Glenn Bartley) have pointed viewers to Sigma's web site, which claims that their 150-600 mm Contemporary has issues with the R7's bird eye tracking. Although they all reported good performance with the other AF modes, they claimed only intermittent success with bird eye tracking. Since I love this lens on my M6 II (with otherwise has similar specs), can you comment on your experience with this focus mode specifically?
@@wellingtoncrescent2480 I've been using the R5 with the sigma 150-600, which has the same AF focus issues. The keeper rate is MUCH higher than with my previous DSLR, 7D mark II. I definitely get some soft shots because of the AF pulsing but plenty of keepers too. I'm going to do as Duade suggested and do bursts of shots instead of my typical 1 or 2 shots in continuous shutter. I will eventually get an RF supertelephoto but I'm waiting to see what other lenses Canon releases.
Thanks, that's helpful. I'm hoping that Sigma can fix it with firmware. My other wildlife lens is a Tamron 100-400 4.5-6.3, but I haven't heard any reports yet as to how well well it tracks with the R7. To be honest, I would like the bird eye tracking feature, but I'm otherwise delighted with the performance of the M6 II (which also has a 32 MP sensor, 15 fps, and an excellent keeper rate).
You're always extremely entertaining as well as knowledgeable! Great revire for the R7. So very happy you're in the Philadelphia area also! You're the best that Philly has to offer!!
For Lightroom users worried about the sharpness from the results of these r7 photos, here is something to note. I'm a pixel peeping monster, editing over 20k photos over past few years..so I do a ton of comparisons between the six or so canon bodies that I have. Those that are very very very familiar with Lightroom would have noticed that the sharpness default amount was tuned up or maybe around Lightroom 6, but definitely for cc/classic. The old standard was 25, the new standard is 40. The issue is that having your default sharpness this high definitely makes pictures look a lot better especially on newer monitors like apples laptops etc. At the same time, it also increases the noise visibility, especially in clear skies and shadows. For the purpose of accurate focus comparisons between new camera files and older files - when I adopted LR classic to replace my version 5.4, I made a custom import preset that only reverts the sharpness back to the old 25. With that sharpness level now being even between my newer Canon files and my older ones, I can do a more accurate review in terms of the image quality. If this doesn't sound like it makes a big deal to you, that's fine. But again the higher that sharpness setting is, the more noise you're going to see. The r7 uses the same overburdened sensor as the 32 MP sensor in a m62. The pixel smearing will reduce your overall sharpness (google it). That said, the higher default sharpness for Lightroom will cover up for it but your shadows and skies are going to look way worse. Again those very familiar with Lightroom will understand exactly what I'm talking about. Others who never paid attention and just defaulted to whatever Lightroom does this is probably not useful info for you. The main reason I bring this up is because I downloaded Jared's first round of test images and they were terrible in terms of sharpness and focus accuracy. I was super disappointed to see no change in image quality at all for 22 2022 Canon crop. (colors are worse also). They are using the old sensor Tech and so even with great glass, the pictures are going to look the same as older Canon crop cameras. Just like you guys I have been looking to upgrade from my M bodies, and once again Canon does half steps leaving me as a frustrated customer who really wants to upgrade his gear but sees no real progress in image quality. Hopefully this information is useful to you. Cheers.
I totally agree with you, the pictures taken by Jared are NOT sharp, they are pixelated at low ISO and grainy. Not Jared’s fault. I don’t see ANY improvement from my 7Dii ! I bet what ever you want but pass the marketing buzz of TH-cam videos, this camera will be short lived…
@@xmj6830 Went from 7d2 to R7 and it's night and day. I don't know what else to tell you. Go shoot some 5000 ISO soccer games with your 7d2 and see how many come back in focus, and how good that 5000 ISO looks.
@@xmj6830 yeah I dissected those first raws that he gave us a link to and they were overall pretty bad. At least in terms of focus, it was soft soft everywhere except for one or two frames. But as I mentioned I don't think it's necessarily the focus I think it's the effect of the pixel smearing at least for the r7 files. The r10 files I would expect to look as sharp and normal as any other Canon crop since it shouldn't have that pixel smearing density issue. Another thing is I've noticed that the color has really suffered on the recent m series. I have all the files to compare for myself as I have a m1, a M50 and m62. Some sleuths in one of the photo forums actually figured out that the color responses different in the latest Canon crops also that's why the colors aren't as great.
@@Philtho It’s certainly not night and day! I still get as good pictures with the 7Dii. And remember it’s not all about AF system to make an exceptional picture. The R7 is no other than a 90D mirrorless with much improved AF system. That’s it!
I agree with you on removing noise with traditional software. It detracts from the image rather than making images better. But after seeing what something like topazlabs’ denoise and sharpen can do I’ve jumped ship.
It also depends on the kind of photography one does - I use traditional noise reduction on nightclub photos, which both reduces noise and makes the skin look a bit smoother
As mostly an abstract/architectural/landscape photographer I routinely use denoising software BUT I also see Jared's point - it can definitely be overused. Personally, the only reason I have Topaz AI is because it works on TIFs and JPGs (which is a huge plus for me). I also have PureRAW3, which (along with the new LrC Denoise) pretty much outdoes Topaz AI in every way with RAW files.
As an R7 owner I'm happy with the performance Canon was able to give me at this price point. It's actually kind of amazing how good it is for the money. Not being a professional photographer, I struggle with the high cost of the RF glass that I would like to have so I look forward to other makers possibly producing RF mount lenses in the future. Full frame with this level of autofocus isn't in my future either, so this will be a long-term keeper for me. Great test review. I think the R7 held up pretty well!
Unfortunately canon is blocking 3rd party glass. Your best bet is adapting EF glass which works perfectly well, with the caveat they will be FF lenses. For landscapes though, my trusty 10-22 EFS has done wonders for me since the 7d days and could also work great now. 50 is too long for crop, and 35 is weird imho. There is no equivalent to the awesome 22/f2. Oddly enough, EFM has more critical lens lengths then RFS. Even the kit lens is better than the RFS downgraded trash. Happy shooting
A number of users are now reporting AF pulsing with the Sigma 150-600 C and Canon's EF/RF adaptor on the R7 and other R bodies e.g. see Duade Paton's excellent series. Others (e.g. Gordon Drake from DPReview) have reported similar problems with older Canon EF lenses on the R7, which may only manifest when using eye tracking AF. I loved my Sigma 150-600C and Tamron 100-400 VC Di for birding. But because I wanted to take full advantage of bird eye tracking, I ultimately upgraded to the Canon RF 100-500. While pricey, it's worth it if you can swing it.
@@wellingtoncrescent2480 Duade was able to stop most of the pulsing thanks to Simon. So at least there is a fix for the issue. Just ordered the 150-600mm contemporary for the r7 that I will buy later this month. Coming from a 1300d this will be a huge upgrade. Been using the 1300d since 2018 so I can't wait to have more keepers than I have at the moment.
@@honeybadger1656 Thanks. I saw Duade's fix. Though improved, I still found the pulsing annoying, which prompted me to trade in my Sigma 150-600 C and Tamron 100-400 VC Di (my "birding" lenses) for the RF 100-500. In the lead-up to Black Friday, I also benefited from a 20% off sale from a national retailer here in Canada, which brought the price of RF 100-500 down to more manageable levels. Despite some resentment at being "forced" to upgrade, I see definite advantages. Compared to third-party EF lenses, the dual response motors are more responsive; the lens IS is better co-ordinated with the R7 IBIS, which matters for video; and the image quality is just breathtaking. Having long extolled the virtues of the Sigma, I think the upgrade is worth it, if you can manage it. I was lucky, in that my wife decided it would be easier to only lug around one birding lens :)
Jared. Could you tell me if the Canon EF 70-200mm 2.8 L (first generation) adapts well to the Canon R7? If there is any configuration... I'm having problems with this combination. I'm losing focus very easily when I shoot using the H+ AI SERVO. I saw in a publication, some lenses that don't perform well above 15 fps. If you could give me feedback, I would appreciate it.
I'm a nikon fan boy But when the d500 came out, with af on par with the d5, no one got mad that a crop sensor enthusiasts body had comparable af to the 6500 dollar body. I'm not mad that the r7 is being compared to the Z9 af wise. If anything, hopefully it'll push nikon to have the same af on future lower end bodies
R7 and R10. Started with an AE-1, which was a mule! Drop it in mud, rain, hurricane, desert heat - it still works 40 year later! Finally moved to digital with a couple of EOS Rebels: much less than a year of life; forget "Rain", a drizzle or humidity abovwe 49.9999999% sent them to the great beyond. I then learned the new planned-obsolescence term "weather sealing" the hard way. It was hard to wrap my mind around the fact that a camera company would make a camera that I was supposed to know that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES could I ever take it out of the box or (gasp!!!) take it outside! Here is what I really want to knwo about the R-"crooked numbers" series. Did on drop of sweat fall uopn it? Did you take any pictures outside the Zero-Humidity of Death Valley? Was there a single water unbound molecule within a square mile? If so, did it immediately go wonky and have to be sent to the North Pole for repair?
I am still on the fence between this R7 and the R6 mkii. I am coming from the 40D, I don’t print larger than 18 x 24. I will also be purchasing the EFS to r adapter ring. I don’t shoot any one thing in particular the one thing I will not do is a wedding. Advice is welcome for my next purchase.
Your EF-S to R adaptor will indeed allow you to connect your lenses to either camera, but when attached to the R6 (which has a full frame sensor), the image circle projected onto the sensor from the lens will be smaller than the sensor - so you might get dark corners. Using a full-frame lens on a crop sensor is not a huge deal. The projection from the lens is simply larger than the sensor, so you are only "capturing" the inside of the image projected on the sensor. However, if you put a lens DESIGNED for a crop sensor onto a full frame, the image projected is actually smaller than the sensor, so you'll get darkening in the corners and things like that. You CAN use EF-S lenses on full frame sensors, but if you want to get rid of the darkening corners, you'll have to crop your images. And you'll end up with a cropped photo - - - which is precisely what you end up with had you taken that same photo on a crop sensor - - so in other words, you lose a lot of the advantage of shooting on full frame anyway. You're not actually USING the full frame if you're using an EF-S lens designed for cropped sensors - because you'll end up cropping the photo in the same way the cropped sensor would. If it works, it works though. If you want a full frame camera, you can always ease your way into lenses designed for full frame sensors. Just realize until you get those lenses, you'll essentially be shooting on a crop sensor because you'll be cropping all your photos anyway to get rid of the dark ring in every photo :) If you're going to be buying lenses anyway, make sure you get RF lenses and not RF-S lenses - as the RF-S lenses are the R-mount equivalent to EF-S lenses. In other words, they are designed for the R-series crop sensor cameras.
I have to wonder if the only reason they didn't put a stacked sensor in this was just to protect the value of the R3. One of the main advantages of APS-C is the sensors are cheap to make, so making a stacked sensor R7 would cost a lot less than the R3 sensor. No doubt everyone would be a lot happier with the R7 if it were stacked sensor at $2,000 but then Canon would probably sell half as many R3s.
Although I shoot with Nikon, always enjoy seeing what’s available with your excellent, informative reviews. I believe you do an excellent job at showing what you can do with the ‘entry level’ bodies. YoFro!!
I got r7 with 18-150 kit lens for 1400 Euro this black friday.. do you think its a good deal? Or I should have gone with sony a6700 for 1450 euro with basic 16-50 mm kit lens ... or with 18-135mm kit lens for 1700 euro? I just started photography as a hobby mainly for shooting my family pics.
Walmart has this camera on sale right now for $884. Pair it with sigma 18-50 f2.8 and rf 100-400 and you have a nice package for under $2k, that’s pretty nice
I know you don’t like focus extenders. Curious what you think about speed-boosters for canon r7. I hear the canon has some purple fringing but the 2 viltrox s.boosters seem good? There aren’t any reviews for photo and none comparing the canon to the 2 viltrox. Now canon has good crop bodies but limited crop lenses. So it seems like a possible work around but I’d like to be sure before recommending to friends looking to get into photography.
I don't think I've ever really shot over 2k ISO and honestly everything you showed at "high" ISO is perfectly usable. I am jazzed about this R7. Can't wait to get my chance
I know I'm comparing apples to orange but I second this. I have an R7 on the way and this video made me 1000 times more excited to get it. I'm parting ways with my rebel t7. But the ISO situation I never shot over 800 ISO because the images would look horrible (in my opinion) tons of distortion that'd be visible even being printed out. I do alot with car photography and nature/wildlife photography. So constant variation in lighting with interior photos or photos taken where there is a lot of shade and bright sunshine mix and the camera being able to keep the image pretty crisp is another awesome upgrade. Also haven't made up my mind on lens yet if I go with the rf 15-35 f2.8 or the rf 24-70 f2.8 as some of the areas I shoot with cars like at events get pretty tight at times. My go to for the t7 is an EF 17-55. So having the added reach is nice. But not having to stand 20 feet from the car for a full subject image would be nice too. Any suggestions?
Jared I am wondering what time the Soccer game was and the baseball game? I've heard that one of the biggest knocks is the low light limitations...so my question is corresponds to the times...cause I do a lot of planespotting videos and photos.
Hi Jared, with the limited RFS lens selected, would you recommend trying a older lens on the R7 like the Sigma 17-50 F2.8 lens or should i sell it and try to get a Sigma 18-35 F1.8. I know i will be loosing focal length. But i need the low like the 1.8 lens would offer.
Surely the EF-M mount is dead now? Canon has made an awesome APS-C camera in the R7 using the RF mount and kicked off the RF-S lens lineup. Any reason why EF-M is still needed (other than in the transition phase)?
As someone who shoots wildlife with an R6 and often finds himself needing to crop for extra reach would I be better off with an r7 for the higher megapixels and extra reach?
My Canon 80D shutter died and I was forced to upgrade and decided to spend the $500 more and go the R7 over the 90D. I shoot a lot of hockey so I am excited to see the difference this camera will make for that with my Sigma 70-200 2.8. I mean going from 45 AF points to 651 is a game changer in itself.
@@CalTek very cool...might I ask how the low-light performance of the r7 is? Is the AF still snappy in low light? Noise at 3200 and higher ISO? lol...sorry for pressing I just love to hear opinions of people not doing TH-cam vids
@@felipecourtois7883 haven't used it much in low light so cannot say....but from what I have read it is a little better than the 80D but as it is still APS-C low light will be an issue. That being said all the other benefits of this camera over the 80D make it worth it for its price point.
@@felipecourtois7883 Just for anyone else reading this that might be interested - I wanted to point out that the R7 is quite the upgrade over the 80D. The direct predecessor to the 80D is the 90D. Then that's it for the DSLR progression. The direct path from DSLR to mirrorless from the 90D is actually the R10. That's the mirrorless series that picks up where the XXD series left off. The R7 is actually a tier up from the R10. So, you basically skipped over an iteration of the line you were in (90D) and moved up a tier from the RXX series to the RX series. So, that's probably a pretty big jump. I'm on a 7D mk II, and the R7 is the direct jump into mirrorless for me. To expand a little The 80D you were on is in the same "tier" or "line" as the original in that line : the 10D. Then came the 20D, 30D, etc....all the way to your 80D. They released a 90D and then discontinued the DSLR line and continued that line in the mirrorless realm starting with the R10. Eventually there will be an R20, R30, etc... With the two-digit model numbers, they just increase the number with each iteration. In the single-digit models (like the 1D, 5D, 7D, and now R7), they just at a Mk # with each iteration. I'm on the 7D Mk II, and the direct upgrade to that is the R7. And eventually, I assume the next iteration will be the R7 Mk II. Canon has done mostly a good job with keeping the model numbers as consistent as possible. For the most part, the D-series DSLRs have an R-series mirrorless counterpart - so the "line" continues. These are the transitions for some of what has come out in the R series so far : 5D Mk IV >>> R5 6D Mk II >>> R6 (the R6 Mk II has come out as well) 7D Mk II >>> R7 90D >> R10 (they don't use Mk #s so they just restarted with 10, and will go R20, R30, etc. as new iterations come out) There is an R3, but it doesn't have a D-series counterpart. It's a new tier they are squeezing between the 1D and 5D. Eventually, there will be an R1 to fill out the roster, but it hasn't been released yet.
Please did Canon discontinued m6 mk 2 and all ef m , I was planning to buy that camera for it s size but now I think I will pick the r7 if they going to discontinue , Don t k ow what to do and what to pick to photo my kids carry their bags in the same time
I am tempted by this camera. I hope they come out with something like an rp2, or r2, that are on par with the speed of the r7 and r10, as they seem to be moving to letting their slightly lower level cameras also have pretty good specs and speed.
Is the autofocus performance comparable to that of a canon R3 as you mentioned at your first video? Or some one spends 1500$ to take blurry images as I understand from your video?
I'm a teen who just got into wildlife(especially bird) photography and I really want this camera(It fits my needs so well) but I just don't have enough money(as i'm a student) to get this with any good lenses. I think i'm just going to get an eos m6 mk ii so I can get decent glass. Any thoughts or ideas?
Hey Jared I love your Videos! I wanted to ask your opinion as I have a Canon 90D and has been great, however I would love to move in to Digital. What Canon Digital would be a good replacement as I can't afford the R3, shoot a lot of airshows, sports, and astrophotography. I have mostly Canon EF lenses with a few Tamron Sigma etc. I would love to hear your Opinion on what might be best? Thanks, B
I started with the Canon SL2 which was a great beginner camera then, i jumped to the R7 and DAMN..! HELLA AWESOME then i went big and bought the R5. I dont feel a need to get another with the R7 and R5 which i use both as my MAIN cameras depending on project and glass. But i MIGHT get the R5 MARK II just because i can. But the R7 is a HELL OF A PIECE OF GEAR FOR THE PRICE AND WHAT IT OFFERS. DONT SLEEP ON IT AT ALL.
Another great video, thanks Jared. When the sensor shutter in my R7 slides back, the sensor mechanism swings into place very forcefully, shaking slightly. This is my first Canon mirrorless: is it supposed to work that way? I can't find a ref to it anywhere. Apologies if I missed it in your film. Any info gratefully received. Thanks.
Nice review! Iv had mine a week now and it’s so good. Miss the grip tho! What lens was you using where it stated 11mm? Also did you get your “clothes dirty”?
Im looking for a recommendation for a lens to shoot youth soccer. I'm very new and have a sony a6100 with kit lens and want to upgrade. I shoot mostly during the day but sometimes near dusk. Ant ideas?
Good video with useful points. Thank you. I am waiting for the next version, as I feel the current R7 is the first APSC camera and the next will be vastly improved. Canon R and RP had a great follow-up camera like R5 and R6.
Can you please explain how you are using the focusing system. You have the "Expand AF area" set, and when someone get in its view, it starts eye tracking them. I cannot figure out in my R5 how you set that up.
I'm stuck between the R7 or R8. A used 1DX MkII is enticing, but want to go mirror less. However, I shoot my kids sports, soccer, volleyball, and dance at times.
Been using tbe R7 and RF100-400 lens for past few weeks. Tracking on the screen looks good however photos taken are soft. Difficult to get tack sharp eyes of wildlife. Been trying a few methods but I have to conclude this is the limit of camera. Good reach but too bad the focusing dont match. So for picky shooters, can look some where else. Thanks for a great video as always!
The biggest difference between the two cameras is the sensor. The R7 is a crop sensor while the R8 is a full frame. There are basically two main advantages to full frame sensors. Probably the biggest is image quality - but particularly in low-light situations. They are less "noisy". Basically in low light, the sensor will produce artifacts in the image - and the image can look grainy. I'd just go online and compare images to see if you can deal with the difference. Most people can. In normal light conditions, there is very little if any difference. The other advantage of a full frame sensor is the bokeh. This is the background blur that happens when you take a photo. Generally, full frame sensors give a much more blurred background just simply because of how the optics work. However, you can still get around this by getting a lens designed for crop-frame cameras that have a REALLY wide aperture. It's not a deal breaker for everyone. You can still get plenty of background blur with a crop sensor. The REASON the prices of the two cameras are about the same comes down to FEATURES, so you really need to just look into the types of features each has and weigh that against the benefit of the full frame. The R7 is Canon's top-of-the-line crop-sensor mirrorless camera, so what you trade off in image quality you get back in features. The R8 is Canon's entry-level into the mirrorless full-frame world. Yeah, it's full frame, but you lose a lot of features the R7 can give you. Don't get me wrong - there is a clear advantage to full frame. A full frame sensor with the features of the R7 is going to be a thousand or more dollars higher than the R7. It just all comes down to what you want to pay for. Image quality - or features. And again, it's not that the image quality is BAD on the R7. By no means is it bad. It's very very good. Full frame is better - particularly in low-light and with regard to background blur. If it's worth sacrificing some features for that, then there's your decision.
That was great to see your EVF during the shoots. It makes me wonder if the new canons are that much better than my R, or if I have something set up wrong or there is something wrong with my R. When I am shooting 5fps with back button focus, once I’ve got shots in the buffer (not full), if I stop shooting to move the focus point I loose the EVF and basically the camera until the buffer is completely empty a few seconds later. Is this normal for the R? Instead of recomposing to see the reaction at the end of a race, I have to continue shooting straight through those extra seconds and hope my focus point hasn’t jumped to another athlete before the finish, otherwise I miss the finish completely. Love what I’m seeing, definitely plan to add the R7 to my gear, awesome review.
It blows it out the water. Simply said it’s fast and the eye tracking AF is awesome! The only drawback is the lack of a grip and needing to get used to a smaller body. My 7d will probably collect dust now as my 7dii is now the 2nd camera
I have been looking at the R7 for sports (sons play Australian Rules Football) and birding as well as sunsets and all the other usual stuff. It looks like it will be a better choice than my current Panasonic G9 with a Leica 100-400mm (equivalent 200-800mm) for the sports and birding. However, choosing a telephoto zoom lens is the real problem as the Canon RF 150-500 is about AU$ 4,999. and the R7 about half of that. I have looked at videos for the Sigma Contemporary 150-600mm (250-960mm) but there are differing views as to whether focus pulsing is a problem. Some say the problem is worse at closer distances. Are there any other suggestions for suitable lenses please?
Maybe take at look at the Canon RF 100-400mm f/5.6-8 IS USM Lens. Reviews are favourable - see Jarod's own for example. Here's probably an accurate summary ..... I feel the RF 100-400 is a great lens at the price point.
Excellent as always , I was thinking of a RF but this may have swayed me to a R7 , I’ve also got some Crop sensor lenses I can use where they would have been redundant if I had gone for a RF
I currently use a Canon 6D and 70D. I have a lot of glass that I seriously do not have the money to replace. Are the adapters for the R series as good as they say?
Viewfinder video shows auto focus instantly switching between Eye tracking and Expanded area AF when tracking players. How is this possible? On my R6, eye tracking is disabled when using Expanded area AF
I would like to see Sigma trio 16mm, 30mm, 56mm with RF-S mount !!!!!!! (Plus maybe adjusted a bit for canon’s 1.6x crop so it should be like sigma 15mm 1.4 😍)
As a 90D owner I was looking forward to this camera coming out. After seeing how small it is and that it will not have a battery grip I will pass on getting it
I have a 90d and an R6 and R7. The R7 is quite a lot better in so many aspects. Rather than miss out I would recommend at least holding one and taking a few shots before passing. You will probably change your mind.
It’s great for small hands. I would get this IF it had a grip, otherwise I will drop it with my man hands. I think this was on purpose, but folks wanting this with a grip would never buy a R3 anyway.
New R7 user here... picked this up with the Sigma 70-200 2.8 (mentioned by Jared as a decent lens). I am enjoying it when it works. Granted I'm new. So there's that. But I purchased this to shoot my son's lacrosse games and found that since the camera can't pick up the eyes of the players in their helmets, it’s focusing in on players in the peripheral areas. :( So many great shots that are not in focus, but guess what? The non-dominant players facing the camera are. It was a whole lax season of failures. Yes, I need to better learn this camera. I'm probably not giving you enough information to go on. As well, I did a team shot with this zoom (yeah, not the best lens... I don't have any other lenses yet -- my bad -- not even the kit lens) and the iPhone took clearer photos of their faces than my R7 + Sigma. Maybe I'm in over my head. This is why I stopped taking photos long ago (had a Rebel and some budget lenses back then). Should I just leave the photography to the pros? :) Kidding. I'll keep learning and post back here once I've unlocked the mystery. :)
Mr. Polin. First and foremost.. love you channel. Extremely entertaining & informative. I have a question for you.. Would you? If you were staring out. Use the canon r7. For paid work? Please advise. Thank you for your time.
Was this video made after after your recent interview video? Because it looked like you definitely lied down on the ground for some of those dugout shots to make the players seem larger than life! Very cool :)
I mentioned SUB $2,000 camera in the video, when in fact, the body only is $1500. I was looking at the kit when I made the sub $2,000 statement. So this camera in fact is only $1,500 which is insane for what it offers.
Hopefully I'll get mine.....someday.....preferably soon....
Amen to this info and amen to me getting it soon
In United States... There´s is a world outside of it with 3 times more taxes on it and import fees. Nice review Jared!
In your older video about shooting concerts you mentioned that you like to stop the aperture down a little. With the new AF systems do you feel like you would open up the aperture?
@@Bad_Wolf_Media If you have Best Buys in your area, check them. They've been getting a LOT of them in stock this past week. Camera shops as well. They're popping up finally.
I had a 7D mark II and if I hadn't already touched an R5, I would be in heaven with the R7. Just having autofocus, EVF, and rotating touch screen. Incredible camera for $1500. I think for anyone who has been holding onto a 7D mark II and wants to get into mirrorless (and can't afford the R5 or R6 or doesn't want full frame), will not be disappointed. Just keep in mind that for bird photography, beware shooting birds in flight in electronic shutter mode. It really warps the background and their wings.
I’m in that boat! Just went from the 7D to the R7. Mirrorless definitely helps so much more with seeing the image in the view finder! Saves me a lot of time and helps me to get more shots !
@@Goodwishes67 oh, that's so exciting!! I bet you're as floored with the autofocus as I was. So many more keeper images. And when you're shooting wildlife, having the simulated exposure in the EVF makes it instant feedback so you nail the exposure way more often too (especially with birds with a bright sky as the background). Congrats for getting into mirrorless 👏
Thank you! Yes it’s so helpful honestly! It’s saves me such a headache sometimes trying to get focus! I shoot primarily bald eagles and went they hunt it’s so fast and i need the focusing system that the R7 has! Eventually looking to go to the R5 but for now, I’ll try this out!
The rolling shutter issue has proven to be overblown. Most of the birding forums see it, but it's not bad as people are saying. It happens, it's rare. If you're still not convinced, you can just use mechanical shutter and not have to ever worry. I have yet to experience it, or at least, notice it.
@@Philtho to notice issues with rolling shutter, it really depends on what you are shooting and how. For what I shoot, it's not great and I'm shooting on the R5. So I'll use electronic shutter for some things but I mostly use mechanical or electronic first curtain.
I picked up an R7 a couple months ago and after two weddings, a running track shoot, and a few model sessions I can say that I love shooting with it. I’d love to see how this camera pairs with canon’s sharpest prime glass given that it’s resolving north of 80mp on a full frame basis. Thinking of making a 1.2 purchase to bring out the full potential of the sensor.
I was wondering what the compact density of the R7 chip would be equivalent to for full frame and I think your 'north of 80mp' is probably right. Thanks for that.
Just rented and shot with the R7. This is one I will be buying. The buffer fills quickly but it is manageable. I used the RF 100-500mm with it and that gave me a lot of reach on the long end acting like a 800mm f11. No problems with run and gun wildlife shooting and even with the smaller equivalent aperture I could still get decent subject separation. Found minimal difference in weight and similar size to the R5 (no grip). Took me a minute to figure out the controls and set up back-button focus but very usable. Body only for $1500 makes it a deal and a great second camera body.
There is no "smaller equivalent aperture". Is the same, sensor is just smaller and crops the image but it doesn't change the luminosity of the projected image.
Been researching this camera for my step up purchase. I mainly do landscape and wildlife, but your video told me more useful info than I have seen on other channels. Sports and many wildlife shooting scenarios are similar with the speed and sometimes erratic motion. Very helpful information. Thank you.
Received my R7 June 24, body only and not having a battery grip like my 7DMk2 doesn't even bother me. The auto focus system and how efficient it can communicate and transfer photos to my smart phone is something that I very happy with and my capture rate is much higher shooting birds in flight. I paired with the RF800 f/11 and the reach is insane.
Canon! People needs new RF-S glass! Just body is not enough! And not everyone has like 3.000$ for RF full frame L lens! Needs affordable 1.4 or 1.8 prime lenses as well as good zooms!
Sigma and Viltrox need to step up and give the people what they desire
They already bunch of cheap primes that are good and affordable
What we really need is canon to allow Sigma and Tamron to make lenses for the rf mount!
@@Tapirrr agree! Latest sigma 18-50 2.8 and 10-18 2.8 for rf-s and I would be totally happy! Plus those 1.4 from sigma and would be awesome!
A very fair and honest review. I've been using my R7 since the release date. I've keep seeing the camera compared to the R5 which is really apples to oranges for the reasons you mentioned. For $1500, the R7 is a good camera. Thanks Jared!
I think it’s a big compliment to the R7 that people even bother to make the comparison to the R5 and R6, then factor in that it’s pretty comparable in many areas and with faster frame rates I think that the R7 is a superb camera and for the price it’s punching well above its weight. Just look at the price difference between what it’s being compared to.
@@745images I have both the R5 and the R7. I sold my R6 to buy the R5. Both the R7 and R5 serve different purposes for me. You are right in that the R7 does pack a punch, great value of features for the price. I was hoping with the new 1.6.0 firmware update that the R5 would have gotten the AF tracking that the R7 has. I can't understand why Canon didn't do this.
@@cathco9 Out of curiosity, why did you sell the R6? Was there something lacking in it, or did you just want to build up enough cash to buy the R5?
@@cjm8160 I primarily shoot birds which are always far away so I do a lot of cropping. My R6 did a great job. I kind of felt like if I went for the higher megapixels of the R5, the photos would be that much better. In many cases, they are, but did I really need the R5. Probably not. If you're considering the R6, I think you'd be very happy with it. I know I was. Sometimes I think I should have just kept it.
I think this will be an excellent back up or companion camera to the R5 or R6. The 1.6 crop is helpful with small birds and wildlife.
I have had the R7 for two weeks now. I use it for wildlife with a Sigma 150-600C lens and I have found the autofocus to be shockingly good. My keeper rate is much higher now. I have "tested" the limits so I have attempted shots I would normally not even try. Some work, some don't, but that is how you figure out what the camera will do. I have even shot at ISOs up to 20,000, yes, they were noisy.
I have found the battery life to be good. At 1570 images the battery still shows 2 bars.
I just got my r7 yesterday so not as much testing but agree so far. Even with my sigma 150-600 which is supposed to have focus issues on new mirrorless cameras my keeper rate is way up and I can usually just point the camera in general direction of subject and it locks on instantly
Thanks for the feedback. As you know, a number of reviewers (e.g. Duade Paton, Jan Wegener, Glenn Bartley) have pointed viewers to Sigma's web site, which claims that their 150-600 mm Contemporary has issues with the R7's bird eye tracking. Although they all reported good performance with the other AF modes, they claimed only intermittent success with bird eye tracking. Since I love this lens on my M6 II (with otherwise has similar specs), can you comment on your experience with this focus mode specifically?
@@wellingtoncrescent2480 I've been using the R5 with the sigma 150-600, which has the same AF focus issues. The keeper rate is MUCH higher than with my previous DSLR, 7D mark II. I definitely get some soft shots because of the AF pulsing but plenty of keepers too. I'm going to do as Duade suggested and do bursts of shots instead of my typical 1 or 2 shots in continuous shutter. I will eventually get an RF supertelephoto but I'm waiting to see what other lenses Canon releases.
Do you use R series glass or have an adapter?
Thanks, that's helpful. I'm hoping that Sigma can fix it with firmware. My other wildlife lens is a Tamron 100-400 4.5-6.3, but I haven't heard any reports yet as to how well well it tracks with the R7. To be honest, I would like the bird eye tracking feature, but I'm otherwise delighted with the performance of the M6 II (which also has a 32 MP sensor, 15 fps, and an excellent keeper rate).
You're always extremely entertaining as well as knowledgeable! Great revire for the R7. So very happy you're in the Philadelphia area also! You're the best that Philly has to offer!!
For Lightroom users worried about the sharpness from the results of these r7 photos, here is something to note. I'm a pixel peeping monster, editing over 20k photos over past few years..so I do a ton of comparisons between the six or so canon bodies that I have.
Those that are very very very familiar with Lightroom would have noticed that the sharpness default amount was tuned up or maybe around Lightroom 6, but definitely for cc/classic.
The old standard was 25, the new standard is 40. The issue is that having your default sharpness this high definitely makes pictures look a lot better especially on newer monitors like apples laptops etc. At the same time, it also increases the noise visibility, especially in clear skies and shadows.
For the purpose of accurate focus comparisons between new camera files and older files - when I adopted LR classic to replace my version 5.4, I made a custom import preset that only reverts the sharpness back to the old 25. With that sharpness level now being even between my newer Canon files and my older ones, I can do a more accurate review in terms of the image quality.
If this doesn't sound like it makes a big deal to you, that's fine. But again the higher that sharpness setting is, the more noise you're going to see. The r7 uses the same overburdened sensor as the 32 MP sensor in a m62. The pixel smearing will reduce your overall sharpness (google it). That said, the higher default sharpness for Lightroom will cover up for it but your shadows and skies are going to look way worse.
Again those very familiar with Lightroom will understand exactly what I'm talking about. Others who never paid attention and just defaulted to whatever Lightroom does this is probably not useful info for you.
The main reason I bring this up is because I downloaded Jared's first round of test images and they were terrible in terms of sharpness and focus accuracy. I was super disappointed to see no change in image quality at all for 22 2022 Canon crop. (colors are worse also). They are using the old sensor Tech and so even with great glass, the pictures are going to look the same as older Canon crop cameras.
Just like you guys I have been looking to upgrade from my M bodies, and once again Canon does half steps leaving me as a frustrated customer who really wants to upgrade his gear but sees no real progress in image quality. Hopefully this information is useful to you. Cheers.
I totally agree with you, the pictures taken by Jared are NOT sharp, they are pixelated at low ISO and grainy. Not Jared’s fault. I don’t see ANY improvement from my 7Dii ! I bet what ever you want but pass the marketing buzz of TH-cam videos, this camera will be short lived…
@@xmj6830 Went from 7d2 to R7 and it's night and day. I don't know what else to tell you. Go shoot some 5000 ISO soccer games with your 7d2 and see how many come back in focus, and how good that 5000 ISO looks.
@@xmj6830 yeah I dissected those first raws that he gave us a link to and they were overall pretty bad. At least in terms of focus, it was soft soft everywhere except for one or two frames. But as I mentioned I don't think it's necessarily the focus I think it's the effect of the pixel smearing at least for the r7 files. The r10 files I would expect to look as sharp and normal as any other Canon crop since it shouldn't have that pixel smearing density issue. Another thing is I've noticed that the color has really suffered on the recent m series. I have all the files to compare for myself as I have a m1, a M50 and m62. Some sleuths in one of the photo forums actually figured out that the color responses different in the latest Canon crops also that's why the colors aren't as great.
@@Philtho It’s certainly not night and day! I still get as good pictures with the 7Dii. And remember it’s not all about AF system to make an exceptional picture. The R7 is no other than a 90D mirrorless with much improved AF system. That’s it!
@@xmj6830 lol you havent used one, obviously.. good lord
I agree with you on removing noise with traditional software. It detracts from the image rather than making images better. But after seeing what something like topazlabs’ denoise and sharpen can do I’ve jumped ship.
It also depends on the kind of photography one does - I use traditional noise reduction on nightclub photos, which both reduces noise and makes the skin look a bit smoother
if you think topaz is gold, you neeeeed to try dxo pure raw 2, is another level
As mostly an abstract/architectural/landscape photographer I routinely use denoising software BUT I also see Jared's point - it can definitely be overused. Personally, the only reason I have Topaz AI is because it works on TIFs and JPGs (which is a huge plus for me). I also have PureRAW3, which (along with the new LrC Denoise) pretty much outdoes Topaz AI in every way with RAW files.
As an R7 owner I'm happy with the performance Canon was able to give me at this price point. It's actually kind of amazing how good it is for the money. Not being a professional photographer, I struggle with the high cost of the RF glass that I would like to have so I look forward to other makers possibly producing RF mount lenses in the future. Full frame with this level of autofocus isn't in my future either, so this will be a long-term keeper for me. Great test review. I think the R7 held up pretty well!
Unfortunately canon is blocking 3rd party glass. Your best bet is adapting EF glass which works perfectly well, with the caveat they will be FF lenses. For landscapes though, my trusty 10-22 EFS has done wonders for me since the 7d days and could also work great now. 50 is too long for crop, and 35 is weird imho. There is no equivalent to the awesome 22/f2. Oddly enough, EFM has more critical lens lengths then RFS. Even the kit lens is better than the RFS downgraded trash.
Happy shooting
I want to buy one but they say the R7 has post F5 diffraction! Did you notice this?
A number of users are now reporting AF pulsing with the Sigma 150-600 C and Canon's EF/RF adaptor on the R7 and other R bodies e.g. see Duade Paton's excellent series. Others (e.g. Gordon Drake from DPReview) have reported similar problems with older Canon EF lenses on the R7, which may only manifest when using eye tracking AF. I loved my Sigma 150-600C and Tamron 100-400 VC Di for birding. But because I wanted to take full advantage of bird eye tracking, I ultimately upgraded to the Canon RF 100-500. While pricey, it's worth it if you can swing it.
@@wellingtoncrescent2480 Duade was able to stop most of the pulsing thanks to Simon. So at least there is a fix for the issue. Just ordered the 150-600mm contemporary for the r7 that I will buy later this month. Coming from a 1300d this will be a huge upgrade. Been using the 1300d since 2018 so I can't wait to have more keepers than I have at the moment.
@@honeybadger1656 Thanks. I saw Duade's fix. Though improved, I still found the pulsing annoying, which prompted me to trade in my Sigma 150-600 C and Tamron 100-400 VC Di (my "birding" lenses) for the RF 100-500. In the lead-up to Black Friday, I also benefited from a 20% off sale from a national retailer here in Canada, which brought the price of RF 100-500 down to more manageable levels. Despite some resentment at being "forced" to upgrade, I see definite advantages. Compared to third-party EF lenses, the dual response motors are more responsive; the lens IS is better co-ordinated with the R7 IBIS, which matters for video; and the image quality is just breathtaking. Having long extolled the virtues of the Sigma, I think the upgrade is worth it, if you can manage it. I was lucky, in that my wife decided it would be easier to only lug around one birding lens :)
Jared. Could you tell me if the Canon EF 70-200mm 2.8 L (first generation) adapts well to the Canon R7? If there is any configuration... I'm having problems with this combination. I'm losing focus very easily when I shoot using the H+ AI SERVO. I saw in a publication, some lenses that don't perform well above 15 fps. If you could give me feedback, I would appreciate it.
I'm a nikon fan boy
But when the d500 came out, with af on par with the d5, no one got mad that a crop sensor enthusiasts body had comparable af to the 6500 dollar body.
I'm not mad that the r7 is being compared to the Z9 af wise. If anything, hopefully it'll push nikon to have the same af on future lower end bodies
Looking to get an R7 soon, it’s pretty much what I need
Great job,my wife bought me a r7 for my birthday, it's very good, I use it with my 100-400 ll for birds the autofocus is excellent.
R7 and R10. Started with an AE-1, which was a mule! Drop it in mud, rain, hurricane, desert heat - it still works 40 year later! Finally moved to digital with a couple of EOS Rebels: much less than a year of life; forget "Rain", a drizzle or humidity abovwe 49.9999999% sent them to the great beyond. I then learned the new planned-obsolescence term "weather sealing" the hard way. It was hard to wrap my mind around the fact that a camera company would make a camera that I was supposed to know that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES could I ever take it out of the box or (gasp!!!) take it outside!
Here is what I really want to knwo about the R-"crooked numbers" series. Did on drop of sweat fall uopn it? Did you take any pictures outside the Zero-Humidity of Death Valley? Was there a single water unbound molecule within a square mile? If so, did it immediately go wonky and have to be sent to the North Pole for repair?
My R5 isnt completely weather sealed
You had the iso at 2k for the girl in the end! That’s amazing quality for that number. With great lighting you’ll get smoother less grainy noise
i'm glad canon treats great af as a standard not a luxury
I am still on the fence between this R7 and the R6 mkii. I am coming from the 40D, I don’t print larger than 18 x 24. I will also be purchasing the EFS to r adapter ring. I don’t shoot any one thing in particular the one thing I will not do is a wedding. Advice is welcome for my next purchase.
Your EF-S to R adaptor will indeed allow you to connect your lenses to either camera, but when attached to the R6 (which has a full frame sensor), the image circle projected onto the sensor from the lens will be smaller than the sensor - so you might get dark corners.
Using a full-frame lens on a crop sensor is not a huge deal. The projection from the lens is simply larger than the sensor, so you are only "capturing" the inside of the image projected on the sensor. However, if you put a lens DESIGNED for a crop sensor onto a full frame, the image projected is actually smaller than the sensor, so you'll get darkening in the corners and things like that.
You CAN use EF-S lenses on full frame sensors, but if you want to get rid of the darkening corners, you'll have to crop your images. And you'll end up with a cropped photo - - - which is precisely what you end up with had you taken that same photo on a crop sensor - - so in other words, you lose a lot of the advantage of shooting on full frame anyway. You're not actually USING the full frame if you're using an EF-S lens designed for cropped sensors - because you'll end up cropping the photo in the same way the cropped sensor would.
If it works, it works though. If you want a full frame camera, you can always ease your way into lenses designed for full frame sensors. Just realize until you get those lenses, you'll essentially be shooting on a crop sensor because you'll be cropping all your photos anyway to get rid of the dark ring in every photo :)
If you're going to be buying lenses anyway, make sure you get RF lenses and not RF-S lenses - as the RF-S lenses are the R-mount equivalent to EF-S lenses. In other words, they are designed for the R-series crop sensor cameras.
I have to wonder if the only reason they didn't put a stacked sensor in this was just to protect the value of the R3.
One of the main advantages of APS-C is the sensors are cheap to make, so making a stacked sensor R7 would cost a lot less than the R3 sensor.
No doubt everyone would be a lot happier with the R7 if it were stacked sensor at $2,000 but then Canon would probably sell half as many R3s.
Although I shoot with Nikon, always enjoy seeing what’s available with your excellent, informative reviews.
I believe you do an excellent job at showing what you can do with the ‘entry level’ bodies. YoFro!!
He should test the R7 autofocus with a Fast lens to see if he would get the same autofocus speed. The shallower the DOF the harder to focus.
I got r7 with 18-150 kit lens for 1400 Euro this black friday.. do you think its a good deal? Or I should have gone with sony a6700 for 1450 euro with basic 16-50 mm kit lens ... or with 18-135mm kit lens for 1700 euro? I just started photography as a hobby mainly for shooting my family pics.
Walmart has this camera on sale right now for $884. Pair it with sigma 18-50 f2.8 and rf 100-400 and you have a nice package for under $2k, that’s pretty nice
I know you don’t like focus extenders. Curious what you think about speed-boosters for canon r7. I hear the canon has some purple fringing but the 2 viltrox s.boosters seem good? There aren’t any reviews for photo and none comparing the canon to the 2 viltrox. Now canon has good crop bodies but limited crop lenses. So it seems like a possible work around but I’d like to be sure before recommending to friends looking to get into photography.
For sports pics -;indoor or outdoor, what picture style is recommended? Standard, Portrait or faithful/neutral?
I don't think I've ever really shot over 2k ISO and honestly everything you showed at "high" ISO is perfectly usable. I am jazzed about this R7. Can't wait to get my chance
go to basketball game in lower leagues and you can easily have iso 6400 on F2.8 ;)
@@groundhoppingwlkp3622 I would never 😝
I know I'm comparing apples to orange but I second this. I have an R7 on the way and this video made me 1000 times more excited to get it. I'm parting ways with my rebel t7. But the ISO situation I never shot over 800 ISO because the images would look horrible (in my opinion) tons of distortion that'd be visible even being printed out. I do alot with car photography and nature/wildlife photography. So constant variation in lighting with interior photos or photos taken where there is a lot of shade and bright sunshine mix and the camera being able to keep the image pretty crisp is another awesome upgrade. Also haven't made up my mind on lens yet if I go with the rf 15-35 f2.8 or the rf 24-70 f2.8 as some of the areas I shoot with cars like at events get pretty tight at times. My go to for the t7 is an EF 17-55. So having the added reach is nice. But not having to stand 20 feet from the car for a full subject image would be nice too. Any suggestions?
@@deekster4457 I've been using it for a couple months now. Highly impressed. I even did a night shoot with it. Stellar performance!!
When I saw you hit the goal through the EVF I knew it was gonna be a banger!
what lens line up for a crop sensor would be consider complete offering? primes - 12mm/16mm / 24mm/35mm .... and Zoom Xmm-Xmm?
Jared I am wondering what time the Soccer game was and the baseball game? I've heard that one of the biggest knocks is the low light limitations...so my question is corresponds to the times...cause I do a lot of planespotting videos and photos.
Hi Jared, with the limited RFS lens selected, would you recommend trying a older lens on the R7 like the Sigma 17-50 F2.8 lens or should i sell it and try to get a Sigma 18-35 F1.8. I know i will be loosing focal length. But i need the low like the 1.8 lens would offer.
Are you shooting with Mechanical or Electronic shutter? When using electronic, do you find rolling shutter a problem with sports?
I've upgraded to this camera yesterday from a Rebel T7 and it's yet to arrive but I'm damn sure that it was a worthwhile upgrade.
So for a still only photographer u recommende this or A7iii? I never touch the video on the camera!
Hi, I have the canon r8, and I'm thinking of buying a second camera, would you recommend canon r6 mark 1 or r7?
Hey Jared, would you pair the R7 with the Canon RF 600/800mm F11 for wildlife/birding or the Sigma 150-600mm F5-6.3 Contemporary?
I'm trying to decide between R and R7. I mostly do portraits but also like to get my kiddos in action at home. What are your thoughts?
Surely the EF-M mount is dead now? Canon has made an awesome APS-C camera in the R7 using the RF mount and kicked off the RF-S lens lineup. Any reason why EF-M is still needed (other than in the transition phase)?
Nice review of a totally amazing camera. Deserves the excitement for results which are very very good.
Can you do a user guide video the R7?
when i see you on you tube i started watch all you film i event traveled 600 mill to go to Conowingo dame thank you
Have you tried Raw Thrappe with Haldcut? just amazing
As someone who shoots wildlife with an R6 and often finds himself needing to crop for extra reach would I be better off with an r7 for the higher megapixels and extra reach?
Why do the evf icons have to be split half between the picture frame and black edge?!?
My Canon 80D shutter died and I was forced to upgrade and decided to spend the $500 more and go the R7 over the 90D. I shoot a lot of hockey so I am excited to see the difference this camera will make for that with my Sigma 70-200 2.8.
I mean going from 45 AF points to 651 is a game changer in itself.
What lens do you pair with the r7? Im also moving on from my 80D and looking for an APSC replacement
@@felipecourtois7883 shooting the Sigma 18-35 1.8 and 70-200 2.8
No issues or regrets on the upgrade. Like day and night.
@@CalTek very cool...might I ask how the low-light performance of the r7 is? Is the AF still snappy in low light? Noise at 3200 and higher ISO? lol...sorry for pressing I just love to hear opinions of people not doing TH-cam vids
@@felipecourtois7883 haven't used it much in low light so cannot say....but from what I have read it is a little better than the 80D but as it is still APS-C low light will be an issue.
That being said all the other benefits of this camera over the 80D make it worth it for its price point.
@@felipecourtois7883 Just for anyone else reading this that might be interested - I wanted to point out that the R7 is quite the upgrade over the 80D. The direct predecessor to the 80D is the 90D. Then that's it for the DSLR progression. The direct path from DSLR to mirrorless from the 90D is actually the R10. That's the mirrorless series that picks up where the XXD series left off. The R7 is actually a tier up from the R10. So, you basically skipped over an iteration of the line you were in (90D) and moved up a tier from the RXX series to the RX series. So, that's probably a pretty big jump. I'm on a 7D mk II, and the R7 is the direct jump into mirrorless for me.
To expand a little
The 80D you were on is in the same "tier" or "line" as the original in that line : the 10D. Then came the 20D, 30D, etc....all the way to your 80D. They released a 90D and then discontinued the DSLR line and continued that line in the mirrorless realm starting with the R10. Eventually there will be an R20, R30, etc... With the two-digit model numbers, they just increase the number with each iteration. In the single-digit models (like the 1D, 5D, 7D, and now R7), they just at a Mk # with each iteration. I'm on the 7D Mk II, and the direct upgrade to that is the R7. And eventually, I assume the next iteration will be the R7 Mk II.
Canon has done mostly a good job with keeping the model numbers as consistent as possible. For the most part, the D-series DSLRs have an R-series mirrorless counterpart - so the "line" continues. These are the transitions for some of what has come out in the R series so far :
5D Mk IV >>> R5
6D Mk II >>> R6 (the R6 Mk II has come out as well)
7D Mk II >>> R7
90D >> R10 (they don't use Mk #s so they just restarted with 10, and will go R20, R30, etc. as new iterations come out)
There is an R3, but it doesn't have a D-series counterpart. It's a new tier they are squeezing between the 1D and 5D. Eventually, there will be an R1 to fill out the roster, but it hasn't been released yet.
Please did Canon discontinued m6 mk 2 and all ef m , I was planning to buy that camera for it s size but now I think I will pick the r7 if they going to discontinue , Don t k ow what to do and what to pick to photo my kids carry their bags in the same time
I am tempted by this camera.
I hope they come out with something like an rp2, or r2, that are on par with the speed of the r7 and r10, as they seem to be moving to letting their slightly lower level cameras also have pretty good specs and speed.
Same
hello Jared, how do you compare this R7 with Sony A7 mk III?
Is the autofocus performance comparable to that of a canon R3 as you mentioned at your first video? Or some one spends 1500$ to take blurry images as I understand from your video?
Did you have any problems with electronic shutter distortion?
Planning to get one R7. Need one advise please. Will my efs 18-135 nano usm work on the R7 with adaptor. Thanks in advance.
I'm a teen who just got into wildlife(especially bird) photography and I really want this camera(It fits my needs so well) but I just don't have enough money(as i'm a student) to get this with any good lenses. I think i'm just going to get an eos m6 mk ii so I can get decent glass. Any thoughts or ideas?
Hey Jared I love your Videos! I wanted to ask your opinion as I have a Canon 90D and has been great, however I would love to move in to Digital. What Canon Digital would be a good replacement as I can't afford the R3, shoot a lot of airshows, sports, and astrophotography. I have mostly Canon EF lenses with a few Tamron Sigma etc. I would love to hear your Opinion on what might be best? Thanks, B
I started with the Canon SL2 which was a great beginner camera then, i jumped to the R7 and DAMN..! HELLA AWESOME then i went big and bought the R5. I dont feel a need to get another with the R7 and R5 which i use both as my MAIN cameras depending on project and glass. But i MIGHT get the R5 MARK II just because i can.
But the R7 is a HELL OF A PIECE OF GEAR FOR THE PRICE AND WHAT IT OFFERS. DONT SLEEP ON IT AT ALL.
Another great video, thanks Jared.
When the sensor shutter in my R7 slides back, the sensor mechanism swings into place very forcefully, shaking slightly.
This is my first Canon mirrorless: is it supposed to work that way? I can't find a ref to it anywhere. Apologies if I missed it in your film.
Any info gratefully received. Thanks.
This camera is a beast! I love it!
Would you recommend this camera for a beginner
Nice review! Iv had mine a week now and it’s so good. Miss the grip tho! What lens was you using where it stated 11mm? Also did you get your “clothes dirty”?
Im looking for a recommendation for a lens to shoot youth soccer. I'm very new and have a sony a6100 with kit lens and want to upgrade. I shoot mostly during the day but sometimes near dusk. Ant ideas?
Good video with useful points. Thank you.
I am waiting for the next version, as I feel the current R7 is the first APSC camera and the next will be vastly improved. Canon R and RP had a great follow-up camera like R5 and R6.
I am going to buy a camera but little bit confused that which one I should buy among Canon R6 and R7.
Hi Jared, could you please tell me how you use that AF system + tracking? I’m just able to start the tracking from a point
Did you take any photos with adapted F2 or 2.8 EF glass? If so...can we see how they look?
Nope. I’ve done that with r6 r5 and r3 and it would be exactly the same
Mine look great w 70-200ii
Is the association between canon R7 and sigma 500mm f\4 a good combination ?
how would you compare it to other crop sensor cameras of its peers like fuji and sony ?
How was the buffering during all of your test shots?
Can atofocus follow baseball??
What can I study to learn about lens millimeter similarity…?
Can you please explain how you are using the focusing system. You have the "Expand AF area" set, and when someone get in its view, it starts eye tracking them. I cannot figure out in my R5 how you set that up.
I think it’s firmware. R7 inherits R3 AF firmware so i’m not sure you can
did you already try the same stuff with the R10 ? or do you think they'd be equal for this as they are supposed to have the same AF system ?
loving fropack 1, 2, 3.
I'm stuck between the R7 or R8. A used 1DX MkII is enticing, but want to go mirror less. However, I shoot my kids sports, soccer, volleyball, and dance at times.
Been using tbe R7 and RF100-400 lens for past few weeks. Tracking on the screen looks good however photos taken are soft. Difficult to get tack sharp eyes of wildlife. Been trying a few methods but I have to conclude this is the limit of camera. Good reach but too bad the focusing dont match. So for picky shooters, can look some where else. Thanks for a great video as always!
Jared...Have you done a comparison of the R7 VS R8? I would be interested in hearing what you have to say seeing as they are about the same price.
The biggest difference between the two cameras is the sensor. The R7 is a crop sensor while the R8 is a full frame. There are basically two main advantages to full frame sensors. Probably the biggest is image quality - but particularly in low-light situations. They are less "noisy". Basically in low light, the sensor will produce artifacts in the image - and the image can look grainy. I'd just go online and compare images to see if you can deal with the difference. Most people can. In normal light conditions, there is very little if any difference.
The other advantage of a full frame sensor is the bokeh. This is the background blur that happens when you take a photo. Generally, full frame sensors give a much more blurred background just simply because of how the optics work. However, you can still get around this by getting a lens designed for crop-frame cameras that have a REALLY wide aperture. It's not a deal breaker for everyone. You can still get plenty of background blur with a crop sensor.
The REASON the prices of the two cameras are about the same comes down to FEATURES, so you really need to just look into the types of features each has and weigh that against the benefit of the full frame. The R7 is Canon's top-of-the-line crop-sensor mirrorless camera, so what you trade off in image quality you get back in features. The R8 is Canon's entry-level into the mirrorless full-frame world. Yeah, it's full frame, but you lose a lot of features the R7 can give you.
Don't get me wrong - there is a clear advantage to full frame. A full frame sensor with the features of the R7 is going to be a thousand or more dollars higher than the R7. It just all comes down to what you want to pay for. Image quality - or features. And again, it's not that the image quality is BAD on the R7. By no means is it bad. It's very very good. Full frame is better - particularly in low-light and with regard to background blur. If it's worth sacrificing some features for that, then there's your decision.
Loved the video Jared. You focused on the AF for this review, so are you going to do an overall review of the camera? Keep on keeping on.
That was great to see your EVF during the shoots. It makes me wonder if the new canons are that much better than my R, or if I have something set up wrong or there is something wrong with my R. When I am shooting 5fps with back button focus, once I’ve got shots in the buffer (not full), if I stop shooting to move the focus point I loose the EVF and basically the camera until the buffer is completely empty a few seconds later. Is this normal for the R? Instead of recomposing to see the reaction at the end of a race, I have to continue shooting straight through those extra seconds and hope my focus point hasn’t jumped to another athlete before the finish, otherwise I miss the finish completely. Love what I’m seeing, definitely plan to add the R7 to my gear, awesome review.
This is the same Af as on the R10, right? I'm interested in the R10 as my next camera but won't be ready for it until Christmas time. ;)
How would you compare it to the 7DmII for shooting sports? I'm still on the fence about making the jump.
It blows it out the water. Simply said it’s fast and the eye tracking AF is awesome! The only drawback is the lack of a grip and needing to get used to a smaller body. My 7d will probably collect dust now as my 7dii is now the 2nd camera
What was the price of the 7D when it was launched?
Thank you for a practical accessment of the autofocus capabilities if the R7 vs other cameras, most excellent!
I have been looking at the R7 for sports (sons play Australian Rules Football) and birding as well as sunsets and all the other usual stuff.
It looks like it will be a better choice than my current Panasonic G9 with a Leica 100-400mm (equivalent 200-800mm) for the sports and birding.
However, choosing a telephoto zoom lens is the real problem as the Canon RF 150-500 is about AU$ 4,999. and the R7 about half of that.
I have looked at videos for the Sigma Contemporary 150-600mm (250-960mm) but there are differing views as to whether focus pulsing is a problem. Some say the problem is worse at closer distances.
Are there any other suggestions for suitable lenses please?
Maybe take at look at the Canon RF 100-400mm f/5.6-8 IS USM Lens. Reviews are favourable - see Jarod's own for example. Here's probably an accurate summary ..... I feel the RF 100-400 is a great lens at the price point.
The wind in the fro (thumbnail) means blazingly fast!
Curious if the crop sensor eliminates the small focus area on the 600mm and 800mm f11? Anybody..?
Excellent as always , I was thinking of a RF but this may have swayed me to a R7 , I’ve also got some Crop sensor lenses I can use where they would have been redundant if I had gone for a RF
I currently use a Canon 6D and 70D. I have a lot of glass that I seriously do not have the money to replace. Are the adapters for the R series as good as they say?
its canon native, not a conversion per se. no changes in functionality.
Mine works really well. Shot several hundred shots today w 70-200ii
Viewfinder video shows auto focus instantly switching between Eye tracking and Expanded area AF when tracking players. How is this possible? On my R6, eye tracking is disabled when using Expanded area AF
I think it’s in the new firmware that comes with the r7 which lets you use autofocus in all modes
I am wondering if anyone had any thoughts on new Fujfilm Xh2 vs R7 for wildlife?
I would like to see Sigma trio 16mm, 30mm, 56mm with RF-S mount !!!!!!!
(Plus maybe adjusted a bit for canon’s 1.6x crop so it should be like sigma 15mm 1.4 😍)
Thank you Jared that's very informative,hope my r7 arrives in the UK sooner rather than later!
Basically what you get is a 80D for mirrorless camera's here. So I want to have it because I love the 80D with my 100-400 lens, it works SO well.
As a 90D owner I was looking forward to this camera coming out. After seeing how small it is and that it will not have a battery grip I will pass on getting it
Also 90D owner...looking forward to mine arriving. Wouldn't use a grip myself and the size isn't a big issue to me.
I have a 90d and an R6 and R7. The R7 is quite a lot better in so many aspects. Rather than miss out I would recommend at least holding one and taking a few shots before passing. You will probably change your mind.
@@dienusse I do wildlife photography and use big lenses and that tiny camera would not work for me unfortunately without a grip
It’s great for small hands. I would get this IF it had a grip, otherwise I will drop it with my man hands. I think this was on purpose, but folks wanting this with a grip would never buy a R3 anyway.
You can get good 3rd party grips
New R7 user here... picked this up with the Sigma 70-200 2.8 (mentioned by Jared as a decent lens). I am enjoying it when it works. Granted I'm new. So there's that. But I purchased this to shoot my son's lacrosse games and found that since the camera can't pick up the eyes of the players in their helmets, it’s focusing in on players in the peripheral areas. :( So many great shots that are not in focus, but guess what? The non-dominant players facing the camera are. It was a whole lax season of failures. Yes, I need to better learn this camera. I'm probably not giving you enough information to go on. As well, I did a team shot with this zoom (yeah, not the best lens... I don't have any other lenses yet -- my bad -- not even the kit lens) and the iPhone took clearer photos of their faces than my R7 + Sigma. Maybe I'm in over my head. This is why I stopped taking photos long ago (had a Rebel and some budget lenses back then). Should I just leave the photography to the pros? :) Kidding. I'll keep learning and post back here once I've unlocked the mystery. :)
How are you switching one focussing mode to tracking?
This camera is exactly what I need!
Love your channel and reviews.
I love the way your using the autofocus setup.
How do you have your settings setup for autofocus ?
Thank you so much
Mr. Polin.
First and foremost.. love you channel.
Extremely entertaining & informative.
I have a question for you..
Would you? If you were staring out. Use the canon r7. For paid work? Please advise. Thank you for your time.
Do you know if the R10 has the same focus system as the R7?
Wondering how it stacks up on HDR type shots?
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Was this video made after after your recent interview video? Because it looked like you definitely lied down on the ground for some of those dugout shots to make the players seem larger than life! Very cool :)