Not gonna lie, as a kid the whole reason i wanted the Wii U was because of Mario U… It was literally a system seller for me, cause i loved NSMBWii so much
@@ChargedTheHedgehog yeah but nsmbwii came between them in the series and all 3 have the "NEW" in the name therefore nsmbwii is the second new super mario bros. game
@@ChargedTheHedgehog actually New Super Mario Bros 2 was the sequel to New Super Mario Bros Wii which was the enhanced version of New Super Mario Bros DS
One reason is that they heard fans say that most of them (Except NSMB DS) are very similar which causes people to be bored and not interested into them.
True. But New Super Mario Bros Wii, 2 and U were still pretty good games and were a part of people's childhood. I will admit that Super Mario Bros Wonder were pretty good and that the New Super Mario Bros games art style started being a bit stale. But people should stop hating on the series so much
@marcus5528 NSMBWii, 2 & U weren't bad. But they were getting really stale & repetitive and there's literally nothing new about them aside from just an new power ups
@jaretco6423 I mean, in U's case, there's definitely more than just a few powerups. I'm gonna name a few. 1. Nabbit: the biggest new thing from Mario U. He's the only new non-enemy character from the NSMB series. The only other mainline Mario game he's in is Wonder. 2. Interconnected World Map: First Mario game to reuse the concept since Super Mario World, and it makes the world map feel somewhat populated. 3. Baby Yoshis and their new functions. Also came back from Mario World, but now they don't just grow into normal Yoshis. They have unique abilities that help out casuals and are pretty trivial for more experienced players. 4. New music tracks. There might be only like 13, including world map, final boss, etc., but that's more than NSMB2.
@@saltendo2177 true. New Super Mario Bros U tried to change it up a bit. There is also one more thing you forgot to mention. In New Super Mario Bros Ds, Wii and 2, Mario starts at Peach's Castle and tries to Bowser's castle. In New Super Mario Bros U, Bowser (hand from airship) threw Mario and the others far away from Peach's Castle. Mario started from Acorn Plains and had to get to Peach’s Castle
@@_pitako I know they're making new entries, but the fact that more japanese companies are focusing solely on making lots of remasters is a sign that something is not right. Doesn't matter if they're making new games.
My theory is that Nintendo wanted to do something different with 2d mario, or it was planned but canceled because of lack of time and resources because of all the new mario content we have been getting, (also love your vids, keep up the good work,)
Would have been nice if they made both a new NSMB game and still made Wonder. That way, everyone would be pleased. The people who prefer simple and straightforward NSMB games, and people who prefer something new and original.
I dont have a switch but new super mario bros on wii u and wii were very fun. four players running through together with the weakest links bubbling up was awesome. They need to make a whole game of just speed runs done in the NSMBs format, speed run levels on the star map at the end were amazing.
0:04 I too enjoy the new super mario bros games! There good games in there own right and while a lot of people dont like how similar each entery is , i dont mind it too much
I think they will ditch a lot of element of wonder in the next game and focus on being a polished experience. Instead of seeing wonder as another Mario that fulfils the need of a original need of 2D Mario for casuals. It serves as Mario content made for fans and second-time owners as it is late in the switch lifecycle anyway, not as an introductory title like NSMB tends to fill.
I think Nintendo also started that the development time was somewhat a problem but the mostly budget to keep costs of the game development process down so that why new super Mario bros just keep the same traditional style gameplay. And wonder just proves how they went above and beyond to make some as good that much it appears and play way different than new super Mario bros games did.
i like to imagine if the "New Super Mario Bros" games were just an trilogy instead of an launch title for every console that nintendo releases. it would be so much less repetitive and people won't be tired of having 6 games that almost have no difference between each other
The thing that triggeres me a lot with Mario bros wonder is that there is no new in the name. Just why Nintendo. The whole series had new in it and you Guys removed it
So true, there was a charm with NSMB. I loved its consistency and controls. Wonder would've been great if the kept player interactions and triple-jump, etc.
something cool they could’ve done for NSMBU is adding a gamepad mode where the gamepad user manipulates the levels and enemies to make it harder for the player
I’m glad I’m not the only one who noted that the triple jump was missing in SMBW. You also can’t control the jump height of the spin jump in SMBW, which is also odd. I think the next entry needs to evolve the platforming moveset to include everything from past games (e.g. side somersault, ground pound to jump) plus some new moves to make the movement of Mario feel even more dynamic.
I loved Wonder, but I felt the level design paled in comparison to the New series. It felt that Wonder chose to focus on style and uniqueness (which is good in it's own right) over challenging or explorative experiences.
challenging? Man come on I rlly like the new super series but i wouldn't call any of them 'challenging', wii is the hardest and that's mostly when you're playing with other ppl because of the stupid ass collisions and trolling 😂
We actually do have two New Super Mario Bros. 3. 3D Land and 3D World, and 3D World was ported over to the Switch. Those happens to be the last two New Super Mario Bros. games
The reason they didn’t make another new supe was because of Mario maker, but that also why we got wonder. The developers stated that they wanted to outdo what the fans did.
I don't agree with your first sentence. When Mario Maker was released, there was already an NSMB fatigue and I think it was a way by Nintendo to make the fans create their own ideas and get inspired by them.
@@nvssgoat I've been replaying through it recently and I don't see it at all tbh. It's defo good and maybe it's harder to appreciate it now after 3 or 4 more new super games, but I feel like even at the time it didn't come close to trying to do as much as Wonder did NSMB doesn't feel like a game that was trying to be on the level of Super Mario World or 3, i felt like it was trying to be a solid 2d mario game, which i mean a solid 2d mario game is overall a great game but I rlly don't see it being over Wonder
@@ACAAllertor125 wonder brings so life to marios world that other games didnt have nsmb and 2 is peach getting kidnapped and thats it with wonder its a different story and dont tell me nsmb 2 graphics are better than wonder's
The good news is that until Nintendo announces it, it doesn't exist, and you don't have to play it if it does end up existing. People like remakes. People like older games remade with modern sensibilities. It's nothing new, and asking "why" at this point just feels like a reason to express your personal disappointment over something that you never even have to think about
I think Wonder was exactly what 2D Mario and the Mario brand as a whole needed. Keep in mind it wasn’t just the NSMB games in a vacuum but the whole Mario brand became more bland and safe. Like for example they had an internal rule which banned unique toads hence why Toadsworth disappeared and paper Mario abandoned unique toads, koopas and goombas. I don’t think we will get an official “New” Super game again, but I think the next 2d Mario might bring back some old elements. I also think we won’t get so much a Mario Wonder 2 as much as just a new Mario game that takes elements from it. This is probably better for Mario to keep things fresh and new
My idea: Nintendo spent a while making part of nsmb3, realized that they had many ideas for a different game, and pushed the Nintendo switch, but still was adding ideas to wonder, once they realized it would take much longer than expected, decided to take a small break porting nsmbu deluxe, then kept working on wonder
If new super Mario Bros 3 came to switch then I think it would be like the previous games well I feel like super Mario Bros Wonder would be way better if it came out yeah you are very correct about the more ideas did they wanted to bring that so that it would not be like the other five games
NSMBU was a missed opportunity. It didn’t kill the series as much exposed the staleness. They should’ve called it New Super Mario World and tried to make the art style more distinct. It would’ve helped the Wii U stand out more from the Wii
I loved nsmb2 tho, I thought it was amazing considering it was basically my first 3DS game and probably my first Mario game, I beat the game so many times and I loved every single playthrough of it, I also had the Wii u which I loved super Mario bros u too and at the time I didn’t understand why it was hated on so much.
I agree! New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe for Switch should be the *only* NSMBU title in everyone's library now. It's the definitive version in which it's in HD, Peachette is playable, & it also includes New Super Luigi U as the extra content.
@@WizardOfWor I have NSMBU deluxe on my Nintendo Switch since I never owned a Wii U to play the original version. I did enjoy it but I miss NSMBWii... my wii broke sadly so I'm unable to play the game.
I also expected another NSMB game for Switch since there has been an NSMB on each Nintendo system since the DS but I'm glad they moved on and made Wonder.
I agree with you that Super Mario Bros Wonder is a completely different game. That’s like saying Mega Man 11 is a completely different game compared to MM9 & MM10 because it uses 3D graphics & not 8 bit graphics that Inti-Creates used.
I have a feeling mario maker 2 did replace new super mario brothers but not an original 2d mario game. Super Mario Maker 2 can basically replicate most of the things new super mario can do and even do unique things that the new series can’t do. If they were to make another one that was once again, not too original, the backlash would have been insane. Not only cause you can get your infinite new super mario content already in mario maker but also cause mario u deluxe exists on the switch. While a part of me is sad that the series is dead (I especially miss that triple jump you mentioned), I think this is the next step Nintendo needed for 2D Mario.
Awww man I actually liked the series, I’m a little upset that there’s no more NSMB content, I mean don’t get me wrong I liked wonder, but in my opinion I think the NSMB is better for a reason
@@INFERNO95 I’m just saying that there are some similarities that Super Mario Bros Wonder has that are like Super Mario Galaxy such as getting a certain collectible at the end like Power Stars or Wonder Seeds and the final Bowser level throwing out all the stops even the name of the last level is similar to the last levels in Mario Galaxy games we have Bowser’s Galaxy Reactor, Bowser’s Galaxy Generator and Bowser’s Rage Stage
The reason mario wonder didnt do much for me is because it only focused on fixing what went wrong with thw NSMB games to the point where it neglects the core elements of what actually makes 2D mario games fun (Replay value, bosses, secrets, etc.) I ended up just selling the game second hand after I completed it 100%.
Bosses were never a major focus of 2d mario games. Since literally the first game it has always been level design, and imo Wonder has insanely good level design. I do somewhat agree on the secrets though, I seriously enjoyed the secret exists in World and they have never really came back, yes they came back in the nsmb series but they were few and far between, and imo they were fine but they didn't work like World secret exits. I also disagree on the replay value but that's more subjective, I think the game has more than enough variety between level themes, wonder effects, enemies etc. to warrant playing through many times, but that's just me and we could differ. My only actual issue with the game is the multiplayer, but I can understand why they removed collision. Even if there was a toggle, the levels are designed with no collision in mind, so I don't think I'd use it much. I mean even though I grew up with Wii and enjoy the multiplayer because of collision, playing through it solo or sometimes even with a second person is boring because the levels are so spaced out to allow for more space for 4 players.
My only issue I have with Wonder is the lacklustering bosses. But even than, everything else is an complete step in the right direction after the stale & repetitiveness that NSMB felt that fells to capture the 2D Mario element.
Like, go back to discs? sonic CD was named after its original console, the Sega CD, it's no different from Super Mario 64 being named after the n64. Do you mean a game that promotes exploration? Because that's been most of the Mario series. Do you mean a game with Time Travel? If so, why? What makes that a necessity? What do you mean by "Mario bros cd"?
Mario Wonder continues bowsers slow descent into bankruptcy. In Mario Bros Wii he lost his castle. In Mario U he lost his airship. Now in Wonder all he came to attack Mario with was a clown car and a dream. The next game he’s attacking on foot. I’m calling it now.
Even if wonder came out, I really want them to go back to the previous formula and keep making “New” super Mario bros games. Like they can release nsmb3, nsmw, nsml, nsml2, and new super Mario bros the lost levels. I hope they don’t ditch the old formula. Plus when the 40th anniversary comes next year, I expect them to release a new super Mario all stars containing the original, Wii, 2, and even a never before released one like 3. Finally, I wish NSMBUD got free dlc, then it would be a true deluxe version
@@jaretco6423 I get it, but there are nostalgic players. Not to mention they need to take notes and realize what ideas they could do in the modern Mario graphics. If not then what about remasters/remakes for the new series? Or a new super Mario all stars for the 40th anniversary?
Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, Super Mario Bros. Wonder effectively *_is_* NSMB 3. It doesn't matter that it's significantly less challenging, or isn't quite the same 2D experience.
ngl, new soup 3 would have had a different style to it than the other 5 new soup games. I would have it be a homage to smb3 because nsmb and nsmb2 had some aspects of the original smb and smb the lost levels (impossible pack im lookin at you). but if it was like that it would may have not sold so well.
I’m already craving the next big 2d Mario game. I really hope that wonder was a little taste of the new 2d Mario games to come. I have a soft spot for 2d Mario. I don’t just want 3d Mario I’d like 2d games to be a thing as well. I like the nsmb series a lot
why does almost every thumbnail have an black bar blocking someones/something eyes, i just didn't get it btw cool video i liked and subscribed and hit da bell
I’m pretty intrigued by how one of the best Mario games and the most mid Sonic game came out within days of each other (Wonder and Superstars.) My opinion ofc.
I think the better question is why is NSMB2 called NSMB2 when it’s the third one of the New series? I can’t really think of any good reason. Calling it 2 just because it’s on a ds based handheld just sounds like poor reasoning. It would even work better because 3DS
I don't hate wonder, but I do dislike it for taking away everything that made nsmb great for me, like being able to grab other players, all the other power ups, triple jump, not having an elephant power up ect...
It was never cancelled. In fact, that game was never officially announced either. A troll back in 2018 impersonated Nintendo and reuploaded Newerteam's Newer Super Mario Bros. Wii Deluxe trailer, and poorly edited the 3 on the trailer to make it seem legit (it kinda worked because I was 12 back then and I fell for it). I know this because I asked Meatball132 (one of the developers behind Newer Deluxe) back in 2021 on Reddit (which the community is no longer active since 2023 for a reason I forgot, you can view the reason if you try to open their community, it's written on there) what that was all about, he told me everything and also told me how Nintendo got their channel terminated and that his group striked the video down. So therefore, it's all just some guy behind a screen and impersonated Nintendo and stole Newerteam's trailer and replaced the name
Yeah+ if the casual items were a toggle u could disable if ur good at the game and don't need it and give some new ideas I think new super would be dead rn
Yes Nintendo did ran out of I ideas especially in u where several scrap levels were found and had some creative I idea that just didn’t work in the game some level and completely finished while some went not finished and the creative ideas just didn’t work even around the new power ups that were added to the game.
Not gonna lie, as a kid the whole reason i wanted the Wii U was because of Mario U… It was literally a system seller for me, cause i loved NSMBWii so much
wii was my childhood (not just nsmbwii just the whole console and apps)
NSMBU only sold a few million, which isn't bad for a failing home console like the WiiU
Same that’s literally the only game that I wanted for Wii U since smash and Mario Kart didn’t come out til later on
Same, but I wanted one after playing DS
NSMBWii was my childhood Wii game. I had nostalgia for NSMBDS & NSMB2 aswell. NSMB2 was the first NSMB game I played.
Erm actually, the third NSMB game is NSMB2. Nintendo just doesn’t want to admit it. ☝️🤓
The NSMB2 was a direct sequel to NSMB 😁
@@ChargedTheHedgehog yeah but nsmbwii came between them in the series and all 3 have the "NEW" in the name therefore nsmbwii is the second new super mario bros. game
I had a theory before that NSMB2 takes place before NSMBWii
@@ChargedTheHedgehog actually New Super Mario Bros 2 was the sequel to New Super Mario Bros Wii which was the enhanced version of New Super Mario Bros DS
Handheld: New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros. 2
Console: New Super Mario Bros. Wii, New Super Mario Bros. U
Logically NSMB2 is a direct sequel to NSMB because Yellow & Blue Toads are not playable.
And because the twirl jump is not present in 2
And you can still play as Luigi with the same L + R + save file = Luigi code
One reason is that they heard fans say that most of them (Except NSMB DS) are very similar which causes people to be bored and not interested into them.
True. But New Super Mario Bros Wii, 2 and U were still pretty good games and were a part of people's childhood. I will admit that Super Mario Bros Wonder were pretty good and that the New Super Mario Bros games art style started being a bit stale. But people should stop hating on the series so much
@@marcus5528 fr
@marcus5528 NSMBWii, 2 & U weren't bad. But they were getting really stale & repetitive and there's literally nothing new about them aside from just an new power ups
@jaretco6423 I mean, in U's case, there's definitely more than just a few powerups. I'm gonna name a few.
1. Nabbit: the biggest new thing from Mario U. He's the only new non-enemy character from the NSMB series. The only other mainline Mario game he's in is Wonder.
2. Interconnected World Map: First Mario game to reuse the concept since Super Mario World, and it makes the world map feel somewhat populated.
3. Baby Yoshis and their new functions. Also came back from Mario World, but now they don't just grow into normal Yoshis. They have unique abilities that help out casuals and are pretty trivial for more experienced players.
4. New music tracks. There might be only like 13, including world map, final boss, etc., but that's more than NSMB2.
@@saltendo2177 true. New Super Mario Bros U tried to change it up a bit. There is also one more thing you forgot to mention. In New Super Mario Bros Ds, Wii and 2, Mario starts at Peach's Castle and tries to Bowser's castle. In New Super Mario Bros U, Bowser (hand from airship) threw Mario and the others far away from Peach's Castle. Mario started from Acorn Plains and had to get to Peach’s Castle
Hearing someone lament the death of NSMB is so… fascinating. It’s like a weird relic from an alternate universe.
But I did hear the ORIGINAL mario Bros 3 might get remade..
where did you hear that? cuz that’s sounds epic
We need smb3 in the style of a mixture of the nsmb style and the Mario wonder style
That's not a good sign. Of a company is dependant on remakes and remaster, that means something is wrong with the company.
@@NicheXCC There's a difference between making a remake alongside new entries, and only making remakes
@@_pitako I know they're making new entries, but the fact that more japanese companies are focusing solely on making lots of remasters is a sign that something is not right. Doesn't matter if they're making new games.
I have always enjoyed the NSMB series and was disappointed there was not a new 2D game for the switch for a long time, until Wonder
My theory is that Nintendo wanted to do something different with 2d mario, or it was planned but canceled because of lack of time and resources because of all the new mario content we have been getting, (also love your vids, keep up the good work,)
3:36 that logo looks shockingly believable
Don’t worry it will, when 20-40 years down the line they decide to do a super Mario bros wonder remake
@@jockson7574with a new Wario mode!
@@NickMario1 haha lol
It’s literally just the super Mario bros wonder logo with the NSMB “New” copy pasted and recolored. Of course it’s believable 😭
And Waluigi.
Maybe the real NSMB 3 is the friends we made along the way
Would have been nice if they made both a new NSMB game and still made Wonder. That way, everyone would be pleased. The people who prefer simple and straightforward NSMB games, and people who prefer something new and original.
Maybe Switch 2 will have one since it’s been 7 years since an original NSMB
I dont have a switch but new super mario bros on wii u and wii were very fun. four players running through together with the weakest links bubbling up was awesome. They need to make a whole game of just speed runs done in the NSMBs format, speed run levels on the star map at the end were amazing.
0:04 I too enjoy the new super mario bros games! There good games in there own right and while a lot of people dont like how similar each entery is , i dont mind it too much
Yeah they are overhated
Imagine Nintendo dropping a nsmb3 trailer after this video released, boy that would be something
I gotta put myself on an NSMB game
Bro you missing out (kinda)
You can with challenge mode
I think they just wanted to do something different with the 2d games
How did you get that emoji?
I think they will ditch a lot of element of wonder in the next game and focus on being a polished experience. Instead of seeing wonder as another Mario that fulfils the need of a original need of 2D Mario for casuals. It serves as Mario content made for fans and second-time owners as it is late in the switch lifecycle anyway, not as an introductory title like NSMB tends to fill.
I think Nintendo also started that the development time was somewhat a problem but the mostly budget to keep costs of the game development process down so that why new super Mario bros just keep the same traditional style gameplay. And wonder just proves how they went above and beyond to make some as good that much it appears and play way different than new super Mario bros games did.
i like to imagine if the "New Super Mario Bros" games were just an trilogy instead of an launch title for every console that nintendo releases. it would be so much less repetitive and people won't be tired of having 6 games that almost have no difference between each other
The thing that triggeres me a lot with Mario bros wonder is that there is no new in the name. Just why Nintendo. The whole series had new in it and you Guys removed it
im so glad its gone 😭
I honestly think of Wonder as part of the new Super series, just lacking bosses...
So true, there was a charm with NSMB. I loved its consistency and controls. Wonder would've been great if the kept player interactions and triple-jump, etc.
The Game itself doesn't makes any sense like Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 3
That game was actually meant to happen with having Christian whitehead for developing this game buuut..it just gets cancelled
Episode 2 didn’t get much success sooo…Yeah, it got canceled.
something cool they could’ve done for NSMBU is adding a gamepad mode where the gamepad user manipulates the levels and enemies to make it harder for the player
I’m glad I’m not the only one who noted that the triple jump was missing in SMBW. You also can’t control the jump height of the spin jump in SMBW, which is also odd. I think the next entry needs to evolve the platforming moveset to include everything from past games (e.g. side somersault, ground pound to jump) plus some new moves to make the movement of Mario feel even more dynamic.
Great video, at least we have plenty of other hacks though, anyways, keep it up!
I loved Wonder, but I felt the level design paled in comparison to the New series. It felt that Wonder chose to focus on style and uniqueness (which is good in it's own right) over challenging or explorative experiences.
True the only challenges in this game was the final final test if we’re being honest
@@SonicionxI dont even about the difficulty that much. The game is just way too linear.
@@mmbiz.o idk didn’t feel like that to me😅
@@mmbiz.o It's a 2D platformer that makes you head right to go to the end of the level. Of course it is going to be linear.
challenging? Man come on I rlly like the new super series but i wouldn't call any of them 'challenging', wii is the hardest and that's mostly when you're playing with other ppl because of the stupid ass collisions and trolling 😂
We actually do have two New Super Mario Bros. 3. 3D Land and 3D World, and 3D World was ported over to the Switch. Those happens to be the last two New Super Mario Bros. games
???
yeah but they're
- 3D, which is not what the "New" games were
- they lack the word "New" in their title.
The reason they didn’t make another new supe was because of Mario maker, but that also why we got wonder. The developers stated that they wanted to outdo what the fans did.
I don't agree with your first sentence. When Mario Maker was released, there was already an NSMB fatigue and I think it was a way by Nintendo to make the fans create their own ideas and get inspired by them.
@@clipmaster6941 I totally agree.
Mario Wonder is the best 2d Mario game since Mario World imo
Agreed
Nah the OG NSMB is better imo
@@nvssgoat I've been replaying through it recently and I don't see it at all tbh. It's defo good and maybe it's harder to appreciate it now after 3 or 4 more new super games, but I feel like even at the time it didn't come close to trying to do as much as Wonder did
NSMB doesn't feel like a game that was trying to be on the level of Super Mario World or 3, i felt like it was trying to be a solid 2d mario game, which i mean a solid 2d mario game is overall a great game but I rlly don't see it being over Wonder
NSMB or 2 is better.
@@ACAAllertor125 wonder brings so life to marios world that other games didnt have nsmb and 2 is peach getting kidnapped and thats it with wonder its a different story and dont tell me nsmb 2 graphics are better than wonder's
The good news is that until Nintendo announces it, it doesn't exist, and you don't have to play it if it does end up existing. People like remakes. People like older games remade with modern sensibilities. It's nothing new, and asking "why" at this point just feels like a reason to express your personal disappointment over something that you never even have to think about
I'm not asking why, I'm explaining why
atleast we have nsmb3 as a smm2 super world.
I think Wonder was exactly what 2D Mario and the Mario brand as a whole needed. Keep in mind it wasn’t just the NSMB games in a vacuum but the whole Mario brand became more bland and safe. Like for example they had an internal rule which banned unique toads hence why Toadsworth disappeared and paper Mario abandoned unique toads, koopas and goombas.
I don’t think we will get an official “New” Super game again, but I think the next 2d Mario might bring back some old elements. I also think we won’t get so much a Mario Wonder 2 as much as just a new Mario game that takes elements from it. This is probably better for Mario to keep things fresh and new
Are there more elements besides the triple jump from NSMB that you miss in Wonder?
I overall just like the movement of the New games more
Nsmb was my child Mario game but I gotta admit wonder is better
Wonder is far better than most of the NSMB games maybe aside from DS in my opinion.
My idea: Nintendo spent a while making part of nsmb3, realized that they had many ideas for a different game, and pushed the Nintendo switch, but still was adding ideas to wonder, once they realized it would take much longer than expected, decided to take a small break porting nsmbu deluxe, then kept working on wonder
If I had a nickel for every single time you said New super Mario blithers then I would have about 50 cents which is still kinda a lot for a nickel 😂
0:54 Yes they did sell well on the Wii U! More than 1 Million Units Sold is Great.
In the next video talk about sonic superstars
If new super Mario Bros 3 came to switch then I think it would be like the previous games well I feel like super Mario Bros Wonder would be way better if it came out yeah you are very correct about the more ideas did they wanted to bring that so that it would not be like the other five games
NSMBU was a missed opportunity. It didn’t kill the series as much exposed the staleness. They should’ve called it New Super Mario World and tried to make the art style more distinct. It would’ve helped the Wii U stand out more from the Wii
I loved nsmb2 tho, I thought it was amazing considering it was basically my first 3DS game and probably my first Mario game, I beat the game so many times and I loved every single playthrough of it, I also had the Wii u which I loved super Mario bros u too and at the time I didn’t understand why it was hated on so much.
Nintendo has no idea what to do for their next games and you never will Nintendo, you never will
New Super Mario Bros. Was my childhood. I do agree that they became all the same after NSMBWii.
I agree! New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe for Switch should be the *only* NSMBU title in everyone's library now.
It's the definitive version in which it's in HD, Peachette is playable, & it also includes New Super Luigi U as the extra content.
@@WizardOfWor I have NSMBU deluxe on my Nintendo Switch since I never owned a Wii U to play the original version. I did enjoy it but I miss NSMBWii... my wii broke sadly so I'm unable to play the game.
I also expected another NSMB game for Switch since there has been an NSMB on each Nintendo system since the DS but I'm glad they moved on and made Wonder.
I agree with you that Super Mario Bros Wonder is a completely different game. That’s like saying Mega Man 11 is a completely different game compared to MM9 & MM10 because it uses 3D graphics & not 8 bit graphics that Inti-Creates used.
I have a feeling mario maker 2 did replace new super mario brothers but not an original 2d mario game. Super Mario Maker 2 can basically replicate most of the things new super mario can do and even do unique things that the new series can’t do. If they were to make another one that was once again, not too original, the backlash would have been insane. Not only cause you can get your infinite new super mario content already in mario maker but also cause mario u deluxe exists on the switch.
While a part of me is sad that the series is dead (I especially miss that triple jump you mentioned), I think this is the next step Nintendo needed for 2D Mario.
Awww man I actually liked the series, I’m a little upset that there’s no more NSMB content, I mean don’t get me wrong I liked wonder, but in my opinion I think the NSMB is better for a reason
Instead of making new Super Mario Bros 3 for the Nintendo switch they just re-released the Wii u version with some extra things
I always thought it was believed that Mario Maker was the reason the New Super Mario series slowed down.
Yea I agree about the triple jump
Super Mario Bros Wonder is basically a 2D version of Super Mario Galaxy which is why we’re probably never going to get a Super Mario Galaxy 3
What are you even talking about. Wonder plays nothing like a mario galaxy game.
It not even close. Mario galaxy era is long gone.
@@INFERNO95 I’m just saying that there are some similarities that Super Mario Bros Wonder has that are like Super Mario Galaxy such as getting a certain collectible at the end like Power Stars or Wonder Seeds and the final Bowser level throwing out all the stops even the name of the last level is similar to the last levels in Mario Galaxy games we have Bowser’s Galaxy Reactor, Bowser’s Galaxy Generator and Bowser’s Rage Stage
@carlas178 So like an 2D game that has an 3D style. Kinda like what 3D Land & 3D World did where 3D games play like 2D style.
The reason mario wonder didnt do much for me is because it only focused on fixing what went wrong with thw NSMB games to the point where it neglects the core elements of what actually makes 2D mario games fun (Replay value, bosses, secrets, etc.) I ended up just selling the game second hand after I completed it 100%.
Bosses were never a major focus of 2d mario games. Since literally the first game it has always been level design, and imo Wonder has insanely good level design. I do somewhat agree on the secrets though, I seriously enjoyed the secret exists in World and they have never really came back, yes they came back in the nsmb series but they were few and far between, and imo they were fine but they didn't work like World secret exits. I also disagree on the replay value but that's more subjective, I think the game has more than enough variety between level themes, wonder effects, enemies etc. to warrant playing through many times, but that's just me and we could differ.
My only actual issue with the game is the multiplayer, but I can understand why they removed collision. Even if there was a toggle, the levels are designed with no collision in mind, so I don't think I'd use it much. I mean even though I grew up with Wii and enjoy the multiplayer because of collision, playing through it solo or sometimes even with a second person is boring because the levels are so spaced out to allow for more space for 4 players.
My only issue I have with Wonder is the lacklustering bosses. But even than, everything else is an complete step in the right direction after the stale & repetitiveness that NSMB felt that fells to capture the 2D Mario element.
If Mario Wonder is not part of NSMB then why is the text for Mario Wonder the same as the NSMB games?
I consider Wonder a reboot/comeback to the New Mario Bros. series.
I’m personally thankful we got Mario wonder instead
I want a New Super Mario Bros. DS remake with the same art style of Super Mario Bros. Wonder.
We should call mario wonder, new new super mario bros
I wish New Super Mario Bros 3 Were Happened.
We need a mario bros cd
Like, go back to discs? sonic CD was named after its original console, the Sega CD, it's no different from Super Mario 64 being named after the n64. Do you mean a game that promotes exploration? Because that's been most of the Mario series. Do you mean a game with Time Travel? If so, why? What makes that a necessity? What do you mean by "Mario bros cd"?
@@_pitako Let's just hope they don't mean Mario Bros Cross-Dressing!
@@_pitako time travel would be cool, deep story and more vertical level design
There's already a fan game with that name
super mario bros CD. is looking to be a lovely romhack, you guys should check it out.
It should happen for Switch 2 imo.
Mario Wonder continues bowsers slow descent into bankruptcy.
In Mario Bros Wii he lost his castle.
In Mario U he lost his airship.
Now in Wonder all he came to attack Mario with was a clown car and a dream.
The next game he’s attacking on foot. I’m calling it now.
this is so awesome
Even if wonder came out, I really want them to go back to the previous formula and keep making “New” super Mario bros games. Like they can release nsmb3, nsmw, nsml, nsml2, and new super Mario bros the lost levels. I hope they don’t ditch the old formula.
Plus when the 40th anniversary comes next year, I expect them to release a new super Mario all stars containing the original, Wii, 2, and even a never before released one like 3.
Finally, I wish NSMBUD got free dlc, then it would be a true deluxe version
That's very unlikely. Considering we'll be back into it's bland and stale games that people will get sick & tired of again.
@@jaretco6423 I get it, but there are nostalgic players. Not to mention they need to take notes and realize what ideas they could do in the modern Mario graphics. If not then what about remasters/remakes for the new series? Or a new super Mario all stars for the 40th anniversary?
Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, Super Mario Bros. Wonder effectively *_is_* NSMB 3. It doesn't matter that it's significantly less challenging, or isn't quite the same 2D experience.
The NSMB series is the Mario version of Sonic 4 imo
ngl, new soup 3 would have had a different style to it than the other 5 new soup games. I would have it be a homage to smb3 because nsmb and nsmb2 had some aspects of the original smb and smb the lost levels (impossible pack im lookin at you). but if it was like that it would may have not sold so well.
I’m already craving the next big 2d Mario game. I really hope that wonder was a little taste of the new 2d Mario games to come. I have a soft spot for 2d Mario. I don’t just want 3d Mario I’d like 2d games to be a thing as well. I like the nsmb series a lot
Super mario bros wonder is my favorite 2D mario game on switch
It’s because Newer Super Mario Bros Wii DID happen, and Nintendo knows they can’t make a game that good
man I'm so hyped to play that one.
But what if we got ”New New Super Mario Bros” instead?
why does almost every thumbnail have an black bar blocking someones/something eyes, i just didn't get it
btw cool video i liked and subscribed and hit da bell
Brother I did it with like three thumbnails 💀
Skjmin: Am I a joke to you?
I miss the triple jump and the Z-Jump leap
isn't crouch jumping only a thing in the 3d games?
Wade Whipple had to take a break.
new super mario bros wii is considered the 3rd new super mario game though
Newest super chainsaw bros world fifteen+++ wii deluxe & knuckles coming soon
I honestly prefer wonder simply because it finally has playable peach
I could say NSMBU Is just "New Super Mario Bros. 3" or is it?
Is NSMB2 that ignored 🥺😭 (I grew up with it)
I’m pretty intrigued by how one of the best Mario games and the most mid Sonic game came out within days of each other (Wonder and Superstars.) My opinion ofc.
I think the better question is why is NSMB2 called NSMB2 when it’s the third one of the New series? I can’t really think of any good reason. Calling it 2 just because it’s on a ds based handheld just sounds like poor reasoning. It would even work better because 3DS
I wish they could not cancel it and have it on the Nintendo switch
I feel bad for this hated series 😢, i grew up with this..
I don't hate wonder, but I do dislike it for taking away everything that made nsmb great for me, like being able to grab other players, all the other power ups, triple jump, not having an elephant power up ect...
It was never cancelled. In fact, that game was never officially announced either. A troll back in 2018 impersonated Nintendo and reuploaded Newerteam's Newer Super Mario Bros. Wii Deluxe trailer, and poorly edited the 3 on the trailer to make it seem legit (it kinda worked because I was 12 back then and I fell for it). I know this because I asked Meatball132 (one of the developers behind Newer Deluxe) back in 2021 on Reddit (which the community is no longer active since 2023 for a reason I forgot, you can view the reason if you try to open their community, it's written on there) what that was all about, he told me everything and also told me how Nintendo got their channel terminated and that his group striked the video down. So therefore, it's all just some guy behind a screen and impersonated Nintendo and stole Newerteam's trailer and replaced the name
New Super Luigi U is the best NSMB game, no debate
Super mario bros wonder is close to a new super mario bros game
I like Wonder but I wish players were able to jump on eachother
I think the Super Mario Maker series replaced the New Super Mario Bros series.
NSMB had long overstayed its welcome..
Yeah+ if the casual items were a toggle u could disable if ur good at the game and don't need it and give some new ideas I think new super would be dead rn
NSMB 3 for Nintendo switch 2
don't tell me this is why galaxy 3 never happened either
Well
Didn’t we already get Mario wonder
Yes Nintendo did ran out of I ideas especially in u where several scrap levels were found and had some creative I idea that just didn’t work in the game some level and completely finished while some went not finished and the creative ideas just didn’t work even around the new power ups that were added to the game.
New Super Mario Bros Wonder
well duh... because the original super mario bros 3 is in fact not real...
@@Makaibros lolll
Mario bros Wii was peak
Enough about NSMB3
The world need New Super Mario World