Volvo XC90 TF80SC Valve Body Replace in car AW TF-80SC AF21 AW6A-EL
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- Volvo XC90 Flare shifts or floating 4-5-6 shifts
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I bought a 2011 Volvo XC90 with 230,700 miles. When the car is cold, it shifts roughly but improves as it warms up. However, after driving 35 to 40 miles on the highway, it starts shifting roughly again, particularly from second to third gear. I'm considering changing the oil. Would it be advisable to replace it, or should I leave it as? Although the jerk is not severe, it is noticeable.
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Excellent video. I would never try this myself but I like to know what the mechanic has to do. Very informative. Thanks, from Minnesota.
no worries, thanks and cheers
Thanks for this video mate. I have to tackle the wife's XC90. Do you have any idea if the Aliexpress valve bodies are any good?
Really appreciate this awesome video. I'm going to have a go at this on our Ford with the same type of auto box.
We're getting hard down shifts and sometimes a false neutral when stopping at lights and junctions, followed by a big thump into gear. Usually more so when the weather is warmer or the car has been driven harder.
Would you say changing the valve block is a good move?
hi, would need to do a few more checks to determine, also depends on mileage, service history, fluid condition, amount of swarf/debris in trans fluid. start with basics and work your way up. often worth testing/checking/flushing solenoids. cheers
@@YepThatsIt I've done about 30L of fluid flush since we purchased the car.
The guy that owned it before was towing heavy loads and cooked the fluid. It's all nice and clean now though and the fluid change really improved the general behaviour of the gearbox but we still get the symptoms I outlined above now and then. It's on 100k miles and although the fluid was very dark I didnt notice any swarf.
Hello, I have a Volvo s60r with the tf80sc, and am trying to locate the output speed sensor and can’t find it anywhere.. would you happen to know where it’s located?
The speed sensor is that at the bottom corner looks like two sensors in my TF80 one bolt
Hi, thanks for a good and very informative video! I have the same problems on my xc70 and I fear that it’s the solenoids that are faulty. If I order a repair kit with new solenoids will they fit anywhere on the valve body or do they go on their own places? Thanks in advance!
hi, correct solenoid in its respective spot. cheers
I've got an X-Type with this gearbox and I'm getting a check-engine-light and communication fault with the TCM, even though the car and gearbox are running just fine. My cheap scanner is giving me some funky readings from the TCM, like telling me the gear oil temp is 8000°C, and that the control module is getting 60V, and that the car is in reverse when it's in P, all of which are clearly not the case, and the car itself probably doesn't think this either or it would be throwing a right hissy fit..
The TCMs on these gearboxes are usually meant to be rock solid, so I'm thinking there could be an issue with the harness in the valve body, I think the temp sensor is on that harness too, in around the valve body somewhere.
I'm thinking the TCM could be giving my cheap scanner an out-of-range reading and that the reading in the scanner is screwing up the other readings in a "millennium bug" kind of way. For example the gear ratio is showing as 65535 which in computer terms basically means a value is at it's 16-bit maximum, and has probably overflowed, the equivalent your beer glass being already full but you just keep on pouring and making a mess.
I'm a bit reluctant to take off the valve body cover as there's not a lot of info about it on these cars since this model with the 6-speed auto was only in production for a year or so, and there's not much info on parts, temp sensor, harness, etc, around the place.
This video is probably the best I've seen, so if I can pick up a gasket somewhere I might take the valve body off and have a little nosey around inside, it could probably do with an oil change anyway.
hi, if you are having multiple weird fault codes, check ecu connection ( especially if near a/c vents may be condensation ) and contacts on plugs as well as measure with multimeter across earth straps - often earth traps are bolted to paint and contact is only through the thread of bolt - squirt some wd40 or crc or similar. make sure battery is charged and strong. modern day alternators dont charge battery, they just maintain voltage as the ecu pcm cant handle the voltage surges. contact me on our facebook link, for a few beers i can give you the temp sensor info. cheers
Hello there great video, going to try this on my Peugeot 407 v6 it's juddering in 3rd and 4th but lately started to go into limp mode only done it once, but going to try to change all the solenoids instead you did not show how the solenoids came out because you were fitting a new block so did not need to show how the solenoids were attached to the valve body perhaps when you have the valve body in your hand I will be able to see, also any links and advice on where to buy the 8 solenoids don't want to do the job, and it goes faulty in a couple of months any help would be appreciated thanks good one
hi, make sure you check all the basics first, including battery strong and charged, good earth strap connections and all electrical connections, fluid level etc. cheers
Thanks for the great video. I have this unit in a 2014 chevy cruze here in West Virginia, USA. Going to try a replace. Seems stuck in 5th gear. Always shifts from 1st to 5th then stays there causing high rpms. Any ideas besides replacing valve body? Thanks again.
hi, air pressure test apply ports when you lower valve body as well. cheers
Great vid..do you know what the torque settings for tightening the valve body bolts are?
hi, usually about 11nm for reused gaskets, and 13nm for new vbody gaskets. cheers
Great video, I'm planning on replacing the valve body soon in my 2007 xc90 d5, are there 2 gaskets, 1 for valve body and 1 for the sump, did the new one come with gaskets, and did you use rtv or other sealant as well as gaskets, thanks
hi, new valve body will have new gaskets, the trans pan also has gasket. we dont use silicone sealant unless it is a very minute amount between trans case halves that dont come with gaskets. choice is yours cheers
Thanks for your reply, ive just ordered the valve body with sump gasket from ebay, when I asked the seller about the gasket for the valve body he was not aware of one, so I will have to wait till it arrives, thanks again
Thanks for your reply, ive just ordered the valve body with sump gasket from ebay, when I asked the seller about the gasket for the valve body he was not aware of one, so I will have to wait till it arrives, thanks again
Hi, I'm using an anaerobic sealant which is the same my valve body cover was sealed with instead of an actual gasket. But I'm unsure of the torque specs for the valve body bolts. Should it just be tightened as best as possible or where can I find the torque specs?
hi, overtightening valve body can inhibit proper movement of valves. generally vbody bolts 8-9Nm and valve body to case bolts 10-12Nm. always best to go by manufacturers specs and tightening sequence. cheers
Hi mate, I have Volvo S80 V8 2007, I get harsh shifting from 2-3 ( very common in this model), it is suggested to me it is the solenoid switches. Do you think I replace them or the whole VB? also can you please tell me where to get the bushes for the solenoids? Cheers
hi, just be aware a leaking solenoid wont give a fault code. cheers
I'm getting the same thing from 2nd to 3rd and 4th to 5th also reverse hits like a drop kick in the balls I feel like my fluid is low but now I'm seeing this and it makes sense
Good video. Is it possible to remove each valve and clean them and their filters? I saw in some video that was possible on japanese car ( honda). I would appreciate your help
hi, check out my solenoid flushing/testing vids.cheers
Which manual program to replace this valve body ? Thanks
hi, try atsg manuals, workshop manuals or equivalent. cheers
Where in TF-80SC you would place neodymium magnet to operate properly? Cheers in advance! ( Have an Torque converter solenoid Stuck/not working fault code on my tranny.
hi, you can add magnet wherever is doesnt get stuck to solenoid, or close to solenoids or sensors so as to not affect magnetic field operation. we use x55 solvent and demagnetiser and home made parts washer. if you are in aust and you need parts, contact me via our facebook in vid description and if needed we can exchange pics, vids and beers in there. cheers
Hello great video.
I’ve got the same transmission, it’s slipping. T service light and code 0051 SLU lock up solenoid stuck in position off. Changed the fluid. Still the same, How do I approach this please? Regards, Liam
hi, try demagnetizing then flushing solenoids and cleaning sensors. check out our videos searching solenoid testing. cheers
Good day mate, does the seperator plates A1. / A5 matter on a TF81SC. VB or are they both compatible (interchangeable) . I had an A5 and put in an A1 and now I have no reverse. Feels like neutral.
Thank you so much . . .
Jack from the States
hi, did you compare the separator plates? where did you buy the other vbody? - they shouldve known to ask you comparison/compatibility question ? they are usually different from memory 4 or so different types depending on year and engine size. . contact me via facebook link in description and send me comparison pics or more details. cheers
Hello again I can't seem to be able to see were the speed controller fitted saw them in your hands but didn't see were They came from perhaps it is me any help thanks John
hi, once you get your valve body out, you will see where they are. cheers
Hello. I just buy 2006 volvo v70 and it has problem when downshifting from 4 to 3 it feels hard it looka like motor is moving abit aswell. The same thing is when upshifting from 2 to 3 gear but not that hard. Any ideas? Should i change valvebody aswell?
hi, test as many tings before you go replacing valve body. cheers
can you please tell me where to get the valve body from? i need to buy one for Volvo S80 2007 AWD V8. I have tried aliexpress and ebay, but i'm a bit cautious about the quality and warranty. thanks in advance.
hi, if you are in australia you can contact me by our facebook link in description and also give me vehicle rego. many parts hard/slow to source at moment cheers
This would be the same sort procedure as a 2007 xc90 v8 awd?
I have 2007 XC90 V8 and same issue. Do you have a Shudder @ 1500RPM ?
hi, pretty much so. cheers
I want to replace the ATF in a 11 year old gearbox (peugeot 2012 6 speed) with only 40K on it could I warm the car drain the 3 L or so of oil , replace it , but then leave the small drain hole open wile reasonably quickly pouring in say another 7 or so L from the top to flush out the remaining nasty oil ? . or is it just best to do a drain every 25k or so and average out the quality of the ATF ?
hi, whenever you have a trans pan you need to remove it and clean magnets ( add magnets as well ) replace filter. doing a fluid change on its own is useless unless you have coolant/water in trans. by overfilling you have chance that spinning components in trans will aerate fluid and cause it to come out of breather or any weak points. it would be better to do a few fluid changes with short drives in between if thats the direction you choose.see th-cam.com/video/1paq5RbiTNQ/w-d-xo.html and
th-cam.com/video/Veu5h5evTiY/w-d-xo.html cheers
hallo super video danke
hab ein volvo s80 wenn der motor warm ist rutscht und fährt nicht .
hab getriebeöl gewechselt jetzt fährt er nur rutscht im 3 gang soll ich nochmal öl wechseln ?
hi, hopefully you took pan off and not just oil change. hard to say without seeing vehicle and doing a few tests/checks. always start with basics first. cheers
Did you flush the trans prior to fitting the new Valve body? then after?
hi, no didnt. cheers
Hey, I’ve taken out all of the solenoids and tested them + flushed them. They all are ok. But The gearbox will still not function properly, it won’t go into gear… P is working but R,N and D is all neutrals it seems like.
Still gets a DTC on solenoid slc3 but on one forum they said it could still be a faulty valve body and not the specific solenoid. Would you try and replace the valve body or just replace the gearbox for a "new" used one? The car has driven 334xxx kms..
Thanks In advance!
hi, if you get a fault code then means your have an electrical issue. often solenoids fail when they warm up as their resistance goes up with temp, which means the amperage has to come down. linear solenoids operate by ramping amperage, they arent on/off operation. cheers
@@YepThatsItwhich solenoids?
Hey, I have a problem with my XC90 with automatic transsmision (the same Aisin with 6 gears). After warming up engine, the Gearbox jerks once, abs error appears, then goes into emergency mode where it is impossible to change gear. The problem occurs when you try to shift from 3rd to 4th gear, the transmission locks up in 3rd gear. After connecting to the computer, an error occurred in the communication of the engine controller with the gearbox. Plugs checked, all OK. Have you ever encountered this problem and do you know where to look? Regards
hi, you need to do a wiggle test. probably a broken wire somewhere. cheers
Wow, I can't believe they thought it was a good idea to put the speed sensors behind the valve body! I've got some wonky shifting and a P1719 Engine Torque Signal DTC. I'm guessing that one of the speed sensors is defective since if I clear the codes it comes back immediately with just key on, engine off... What's strange is all the related PIDs, input speed, output speed and Torque from Engine all look reasonable...
hi, probably metallic debris attracted on sensor. cheers
@@YepThatsIt Thanks!
Does it matter what type the solenoid is that you said about that is diffrent
Bc i need to do this to my tf80sc gearbox part number for the part that im looking to buy to my gearbox is 5G137Z488AA
Does this one fit to 2006 year model
hi, no idea sorry. cheers
Hi what is the part number for the valve body pan gasket thanks
hi, that will depend on the brand. cheers
A 2011 Volvo XC90 D5 2.4L if that helps
Where is the filter located on this transmission, I’ve been told it’s under that cover with the valve body, but haven’t seen anyone replace or mention it.
hi, pretty sure i do mention it in my tf80sc vids...the filter is internaland you need trans disassembly to get to it. this is why regular service is critical, add magnets and inline filter in cooling line will help too. cheers
@@YepThatsIt sounds good, you recommend a specific brand or model?
@@YepThatsIt thanks for that info
Hi, thanks for this. ive puchased an 2006 xc90 D5 from someone who wasnt maintaining it and decided to get rid of it. Im experiencing this delayed shift and flare from 3-4 and the higher gears seem almost non existent. Im reaching 60mph/120KM max and it hardly revvs above 3000/3500 when I floor the pedal. Before this, the mechanic topped up the ATF since the shifting was harsh at the time and immediately that was solved but now its returned in this manner, with the shift flare or delayed gear change. Now, you mentioned that there are 2 types of VB's and I understand that from 07 onwards the VB's were updated due to a previous issue with the VB's. How do I know which is the correct VB ? Do you have the part number as I might need to get 1 if the series of ATF top-ups to come does not yield any good results.
Kind regards from SA
hi, the differences are whether there is a cooler mounted/bolted to top of trans or has a remotely located coolers. it should be in the vids. cheers
Hey mate I've actually also just bought a 2006 D5 XC90 but its got flare in 3rd and 5th. looking to get this done so let me know how you go and which one is the go.
Cheers from QLD
@@nicholasjones1417 we're doing the atf flush and top up at the moment. Got 2 more rounds to do. It's been going through the gears better since the first flush. But it's still flaring between 3 and 4. I'll keep you posted but keen to see in top shape because it's a pleasure to drive already
@@nicholasjones1417 it seems the original owners aren't informed about best practices when maintaining the engine and gearbox because it appears that many of these models have the flare happening and if you ask the owner, they're completely unaware of the occasional flush and drain to keep the VB healthy
@@YepThatsIt thanks for this. Mine are not mounted on the transmission.
Hello, does anyone know where the transmission filter is on this transmission? thanks
hi, trans need disassembly to change filter. you can install an inline filter on cooling lines but keep in mind trans inline filters are directional so confirm flow direction. cheers
Hi sir ... I have a problem on my Volvo car in transmission shifting ... Please answer me Ian in the USA
hi, no worries. cheers
Vida software is needed for this replacement?
thanks for that
Hi! Where can I purchase a refurbished valve body in Australia? NSW
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Hello my friend I am sending you from Greece I have a problem with the gearbox and it gives me this code 4202201 converter lock-up clutch..what could it be?thank you very much😊
hi, generally you will mainly get fault codes for electrical issues. most likely contaminated or worn solenoids and sensors. a leaking solenoid wont usually give a fault code. check all basics first and work your way up. cheers
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Good video. Just one note, getting the tranny oil level set should be done with the engine running 👍🏻
thaks for that cheers
And trans oil level should be set when temp reads 59 deg Celsius.
My car had about 3 L more oil in there than it was meant to . Ran better after I drained it to the correct level . lol did at least 10 K like that without destroying anything, having just said that the solenoids are stuffed, one physically loose.
Tf 60??
Is there anything special in regards to removing the internal wires, you skipped over that in the video, just need a pick tool?
hi, just a pick tool or very small screwdriver. sorry very hard to film clearly. cheers
No all good I understand, if you want to see a bad repair video check out mine on the starter motor for a c4 citroen :)
Over tightened with a 3/8 torque ratchet 😂 only 7 to 8 nm and others are 12 nm ..