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What really stood out to me was how good the prediction of the outcome of battles was. Instantly seeing what would trade well and not in a very early stage of every engagement.
The minimap shows you where the opponents have spawned at the start of game with the red crosshairs (0:34), which after a few seconds go away - can save yourself some scouting next time (or grab the uninhabited quadrant early if you're feeling particularly greedy).
@@thunderhorse689being Grandmaster doesn’t make you omnipotent. It’s a minor thing, but it would slightly optimize everything. He didn’t know about it, as made clear by the fact he scouted the entire map, so why are you criticizing the spread of information?
@@BG-JJ3O-1 wdym? are you saying they’re going to float their cc away and mine elsewhere? not only would that be immensely stupid, Zerg and Protoss can’t float, genius.
I don't know why this was recommended to me because I have never played starcraft, but this was pretty entertaining seeing this level of micromanaging. I don't know how someone could keep precise control of so many different units.
I really am surprised by the lack of cross team co-op...barely any of the strengths of the Protos and Zerg were used...Zerg ground forces can be produced very quickly to provide distraction while Protos can focus on building a superior air fleet
@@MsHojat I'm thinking the 'rule' was they weren't allowed to coordinate or communicate or something. if they did there's no reason why they wouldn't just walk over him.
@@xanderwilson8293why would you not spam battlecruisers? Why would you warp a single half broken BT? Why would you stop mining (he made enough mutas to kill 2 liberators) ? Being gold isnt anything that really says youre great but come on why the fuck would you run your entire army into siege tanks? Protoss player made me the angriest, stalker spam against siege tanks/Marines? 10 minutes of talking with your teammates and you have a 100% Win stratedgy, alone because they have 800 supply and he has 200
Damn, I am amazed how your brain works, you are able to do very intensive and complicated thoughtful movements by hands and fingers to control untis, while analysing the overall game situation and adapting to one strategy or another, and also able to independently speak about everything at the same time. I envy your level of development)
That was amazing! Was watching this during breakfast and was amazed how you could win this! Also I like how you come up with new ideas of what to achieve :)
So many great ideas for content. If only you could do a 4 gold to GM run or something of that nature. The fact that you kept casting while handling 4 golds is...*chef's kiss* GGWP!!!
That would be impossible to beat, right? If they all just worker-rush him he wouldn't stand a chance. So there needs to be some miscommunication for it to be even possible.
@@the_rabidsquirel it is not only that, but the zerg didnt try 6 pool the protoss didnt canon rush if the protoss go canon rush, the guy will be forced to send 2 scv after the probe and 4 scv against the pylon, it mean he is unable to build his wall and so the zerg can come with his zergling other terrans can try to rush to made marines or reaper other strategy is baneling or roach for the zerg marines for both terrans mass zealot for the protoss and launch an attack in less of 4 minutes the golds players lack of agressivety
That's kind of embarrassing to be honest. I feel like the only way they lose is by running full ground armies into mass-tanks, one by one, and that's exactly what they did. If they just build air units and make sure to take the outside bases then surely there's no way they'd lose.
Hey brother it's Legend. Thanks for sending me this video! Me and you have had some incredible seasons together. Always a pleasures and can't wait to see where things go!!
If they all played terran, all built marines only, rallied all units to the mineral line until the jump off moment (fuck expansions, don't give him a surface area to attack), and rushed at 40 supply each, I don't believe it's physically possible for him to hold.
If everyone just proxied like two unit buildings, scouted and rallied at him ignoring any counter they’d win. There’s just no way you’d hold off like 6 Marie’s, 2 zealots and or lings before they can even get a good defense up
One thing is going against four and see how it's going to play out, that's one thing. But... Speed-talking and giving commentator talks while multi multi-tasking by killing "them" and taking them out one by one, is another freaking thing... But with smiling face and excitement makes my day.. 🙏🏽 Freaking awesome! What kind of coffee do you drink? ☕👊🏽👍🏽☺️
So frustrating watching these four fail so hard. I feel like any semi-intelligent person would think: "let's overwhelm this guy with a variety of units that he can't possibly counter all at once." What uThermal said about sneaky units early on (oracles, mutas, etc.) is spot on. Instead these guys turtle, feed units to him, then allow him to expand. 😅
The minimap shows the spawn locations at the beginning of each game with big red bullseyes. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. The game gives you that initial scouting info by default. 0:34
That's a perfect example of why StarCraft 2 is the best RTS out there. Skills really matter and that was a skill diff for sure. Such a gap between Gold and Grandmaster.
Tbch I'm not a SC2 PVP player so maybe I've missed something important or maybe don't know about a certain PVP rule/s, but it's hella weird to think that those 4 players haven't grouped all their armies to attack in the same time from different angles like surround him from different sides. Wouldn't that make it so much harder for uThermal to focus and defend? As he said it's not ideal at all to fight 4 different maxed armies at once. Let's be honest they have around 800 supply cap together while he has only 200.
Absolutely INSANE! Well done! You did this off of a single starting base! I remember when Beasty did this, he had a few people on his team leave so he had the extra income. Perhaps you could do that vs some higher level players.
At 7 minutes if they timed their attacks together they would have overrun you. 5 stalkers, 4 zealots, and that queen rush would have won if it was all at once.
Thanks for the great content! I loved watching this match. This does make me wonder if all 4 players decide to worker rush you, wouldn’t the game just be over at that point?
Dude just speaks english, commentates his own gameplay while upkeeping gm level gameplay. Idk about other people speaking english as second language, but dude when I concentrate on gameplay I actually catch myself defaulting to my first language depending on how deep in focus I am.
At this point, I believe, you have to take on z and p, and all of their unit possible memes, to the extreme. And that is your way forward, as a traitor, to terran. Ultimate goal: "road to random world champ." Might put a spark in me to play again;)
FINALLY THERMY ....i really am glad u noticed my comment on soo many videos of urs for this ...can wait to see 1 diamond vs u with 70 or 60 percent HP or 1 v 10 diamonds in archon mode with VC ...also cant wait to see u do some team games challanges as well so that way u can get ur fav portrait ❤
New setup idea! Fast 5 CC, but swap 2nd cc built with main orbital n turn into planetary. Then fly first orbital to natural n build the 3rd cc next to it. Once finished, swap that with orbital on natural n turn 3rd cc to planetary. Now you have protection for mineral lines on main and natural. You could then build cc 4 and 5 next to the first two planetaries for protection. Could even proxy all other structures since planetary would be enough early on!
There will some chance if all would do something what distracts control since 5 minutes - oracles, darks, mutas, ravens, nukes. And also big static defense to prevent harrass. Terrans may do Planetary fortress toss - lands of photons.
Had a situation at work today with a very bad mannered co-worker. If I had been more like Uthermal it could have been better for everyone involved. Didn't do anything wrong necessarily, but didn't do enough right and didn't keep the cool level head I should have been
This is really good training to play someone like Maru - bet it's like trying to play 10 people at once with his multitasking lol. Challenge idea: Get 2 pro gamers to play against but they can only go up to 100 supply each. I think Archon mode is clunky and not actually like playing 2 people. Let them have their own race but limit supply to make it fair.
@@sodapopinski8064 yeah, but i dont see either canon rush+6 pool gold player are really gentlemen to let him build his army, normally they are not so nice and will try to take out you in less of 2 minutes
Good show. But. Those 4 players didn’t work AS A TEAM. example is. One Terran go 💯 on reaper harassment early while Protoss goes straight to carriers. You can’t defend against both. Zerg goes speedoings while other Terran goes bc’s. You have to split it up or ALL GROUND dies to tanks. 😂
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dear sir. waiting for 1 vs 4plat.... btw thx for your job
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It must suck to have to buy a new mouse after every game. All that unneccesary move command clicking! #RipMouseButtons
I envy your ability to multi task, commentate, and calculate every move you made... incredible! bravo!
play first, record then commenting at other time lol
He definitely knew how to click on things and build then cancel a bunch lol
I agree
And he also talks! At the same time…
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS YESSS!! I can only imagine how cool you must feel even surviving a few minutes against four other players
What really stood out to me was how good the prediction of the outcome of battles was. Instantly seeing what would trade well and not in a very early stage of every engagement.
That is a really good point. He knew what would beat what in a second
The minimap shows you where the opponents have spawned at the start of game with the red crosshairs (0:34), which after a few seconds go away - can save yourself some scouting next time (or grab the uninhabited quadrant early if you're feeling particularly greedy).
Very good advice I'm sure he hadn't considered. Any other tips for this Grandmaster player?
@@thunderhorse689 consider or not consider, he did not do it, the comment is up to point, optimizing the game for a better play.
Lmaoooooooo😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@thunderhorse689being Grandmaster doesn’t make you omnipotent. It’s a minor thing, but it would slightly optimize everything. He didn’t know about it, as made clear by the fact he scouted the entire map, so why are you criticizing the spread of information?
@@BG-JJ3O-1 wdym? are you saying they’re going to float their cc away and mine elsewhere? not only would that be immensely stupid, Zerg and Protoss can’t float, genius.
"It'd be quite rude to that SCV's family if I said it was nothing". Marc being the cutest damn human alive.
and amid such chaos :D
I don't know why this was recommended to me because I have never played starcraft, but this was pretty entertaining seeing this level of micromanaging. I don't know how someone could keep precise control of so many different units.
A lot oh hotkey and practice 😂
I recommend people try starcraft 1 and 2. Some of the best fun and story.
Joy! Something satisfying about watching 4 ppl try, suffer, and die to one person. This was a horror video!! Lmao
Absolute domination.
Especially when he left the nydus up just to slaughter everything.
yes a horror video indeed lol
So weird, I half expected them to do a combined rush early on. Really cool game to watch!
I really am surprised by the lack of cross team co-op...barely any of the strengths of the Protos and Zerg were used...Zerg ground forces can be produced very quickly to provide distraction while Protos can focus on building a superior air fleet
Yeah. I was thinking there was maybe a rule against that. Since that's what I see people do even at low skill levels in team games or 2v1s.
@@Mornock uhh, ok bro
@@MsHojat I'm thinking the 'rule' was they weren't allowed to coordinate or communicate or something. if they did there's no reason why they wouldn't just walk over him.
@@xanderwilson8293why would you not spam battlecruisers? Why would you warp a single half broken BT? Why would you stop mining (he made enough mutas to kill 2 liberators) ? Being gold isnt anything that really says youre great but come on why the fuck would you run your entire army into siege tanks?
Protoss player made me the angriest, stalker spam against siege tanks/Marines? 10 minutes of talking with your teammates and you have a 100% Win stratedgy, alone because they have 800 supply and he has 200
Damn, I am amazed how your brain works, you are able to do very intensive and complicated thoughtful movements by hands and fingers to control untis, while analysing the overall game situation and adapting to one strategy or another, and also able to independently speak about everything at the same time. I envy your level of development)
Ah it looks like so much fun to participate against him!
I love these Marc vs the community games. I really look forward to new ones! I'm in gold league, I'd love to be ok this show getting curbstomped
In my perspective this was very one-sided, we need to increase the level of this challenge! xD
it wasnt , he barely survived
His income at the end was abysmal- if he hadn't dealt the killing blow they would've overwhelmed him with sheer money soon enough haha.
looking at the 4 players micro skill, it was really terrible, that's what cause the unbalance
@@atrudokht that's the point. Gold players usually have some general understanding of the game, but their mechanical skills aren't that great
@@atrudokht If you got 4 people with some extent of micro and decent build this guy probably won't survive 20 minutes.
This format is such an amazing idea! Fun to watch for sure and you make your community part of the show. Thank you thermy for doing this :-)
That was a crazy difficult challenge and I am so glad I got to see it... Amazing! Awesome play, Thermy!
doesn't it show where they spawn at the beginning of the match?
☝ Good tip here Marc
Yes, and no. You see their starting positions. Not where each individual start.
Now this is impressive! Haven't played much sc2 at all, and that was almost 10 years ago. This was still really cool to watch
No talk about the weather
No "Stormgate huh?"
Absolutely disgusting.
That one episode where you ambushed an unloading nydus was absolutely stellar :)
Wonder how you'd do against 1 of each rank, up to diamond.
Looking fwd to see how this match pans out!
Glad to see this back, This is my favorite. I loved when you did the 1vX with randoms as well!
That was amazing! Was watching this during breakfast and was amazed how you could win this! Also I like how you come up with new ideas of what to achieve :)
What an absolute unit of a SC2 player you are, bro...
Seriously impressive.
You're so fast! That multitasking is insane!! GGWP!!
So many great ideas for content. If only you could do a 4 gold to GM run or something of that nature. The fact that you kept casting while handling 4 golds is...*chef's kiss* GGWP!!!
Marc is so boss he's playing tower defense vs humans.
You have the best intro on your videos. Quick, soft sound fade in, and looks cool.
That was tons of fun. Still those Gold players must have not had any strategy talk beforehand.
That would be impossible to beat, right? If they all just worker-rush him he wouldn't stand a chance. So there needs to be some miscommunication for it to be even possible.
@@stanle1101 Worker rushing was I believe the only thing explicitly off limits, as it defeats the point of the challenge.
@@the_rabidsquirel it is not only that, but the zerg didnt try 6 pool
the protoss didnt canon rush
if the protoss go canon rush, the guy will be forced to send 2 scv after the probe and 4 scv against the pylon, it mean he is unable to build his wall and so the zerg can come with his zergling
other terrans can try to rush to made marines or reaper
other strategy is baneling or roach for the zerg
marines for both terrans
mass zealot for the protoss and launch an attack in less of 4 minutes
the golds players lack of agressivety
That's kind of embarrassing to be honest. I feel like the only way they lose is by running full ground armies into mass-tanks, one by one, and that's exactly what they did.
If they just build air units and make sure to take the outside bases then surely there's no way they'd lose.
Funny how you can stay so calm. Even at my most relaxed I don’t think i blink for 10 straight minutes
IMO the absolutely best unit in a 4v1 is a fast 12 mutas. Like by 5 minutes.
the game looks so planned from the start, even for 4X Silver..or Bronze
Hey brother it's Legend. Thanks for sending me this video! Me and you have had some incredible seasons together. Always a pleasures and can't wait to see where things go!!
I don't play SC recent years but gosh destroying enemies with siege tanks is one of the most satisfying feelings in gaming
"Units lost I wasn't that efficient" Marc.... you forgot to add the 4 players together for units lost, you were insanely efficient!
ggwp
If they all played terran, all built marines only, rallied all units to the mineral line until the jump off moment (fuck expansions, don't give him a surface area to attack), and rushed at 40 supply each, I don't believe it's physically possible for him to hold.
I got absolutely pumped when i saw this video pop up! Looking forward to more and ill be checking old vids for this!
Watching you play live and commentate is both a treat and a rarity. Subbed, you earned it
youre a beast bro idk how u can focus on so much and control so much at the same time while talking about it. multitask master. great video!
If everyone just proxied like two unit buildings, scouted and rallied at him ignoring any counter they’d win. There’s just no way you’d hold off like 6 Marie’s, 2 zealots and or lings before they can even get a good defense up
I could watch this for 10 days straight and not get bored. Awesome video !!!
One thing is going against four and see how it's going to play out, that's one thing.
But... Speed-talking and giving commentator talks while multi multi-tasking by killing "them" and taking them out one by one, is another freaking thing... But with smiling face and excitement makes my day.. 🙏🏽
Freaking awesome! What kind of coffee do you drink? ☕👊🏽👍🏽☺️
if you looked at the mini map when the game started you could've seen where they spawned so you would've had to scout with the SCV
Terran is the only race that could pull this off. Terran splash, and efficiency is just too good.
So frustrating watching these four fail so hard. I feel like any semi-intelligent person would think: "let's overwhelm this guy with a variety of units that he can't possibly counter all at once." What uThermal said about sneaky units early on (oracles, mutas, etc.) is spot on. Instead these guys turtle, feed units to him, then allow him to expand. 😅
Me, nydus in my base: oh my god i'm so dead!
Pro player, nydus in his base: oh my god this is so good, this game is going so well!
When you are so polite that ppl would be happy to be sacrificial lambs for your challenges:
The minimap shows the spawn locations at the beginning of each game with big red bullseyes. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. The game gives you that initial scouting info by default. 0:34
That's a perfect example of why StarCraft 2 is the best RTS out there. Skills really matter and that was a skill diff for sure. Such a gap between Gold and Grandmaster.
Lack of early capital ships helped marc quite a lot. As well as keep on running into tons of tanks. I did not thought this will be possible at all.
It looks like four 5-year-olds are trying to take down a grown man. It won't happen!
This was INSANELY entertaining hahahah! Great commentating too, I'm subbing only to see more of these outnumbered plays, so cool man!
Tbch I'm not a SC2 PVP player so maybe I've missed something important or maybe don't know about a certain PVP rule/s, but it's hella weird to think that those 4 players haven't grouped all their armies to attack in the same time from different angles like surround him from different sides. Wouldn't that make it so much harder for uThermal to focus and defend? As he said it's not ideal at all to fight 4 different maxed armies at once. Let's be honest they have around 800 supply cap together while he has only 200.
Nice stuff, good change of pace, very fun!
This kinda video is very cool. Also a way to interact with your fans.
Absolutely INSANE! Well done! You did this off of a single starting base! I remember when Beasty did this, he had a few people on his team leave so he had the extra income. Perhaps you could do that vs some higher level players.
What an absolute CLINIC! Well done, man -- incredible!
At 7 minutes if they timed their attacks together they would have overrun you.
5 stalkers, 4 zealots, and that queen rush would have won if it was all at once.
Thanks for the great content! I loved watching this match.
This does make me wonder if all 4 players decide to worker rush you, wouldn’t the game just be over at that point?
Worker rush not necessarily - Early timing push absolutely
Yeah with worker rush that would be over but it wouldn't be fun
If i was doing 4v1 i would have the 4-stack instantly a-move all workers across the map. It seems unbeatable
Is there a rule against them attacking within first few minutes? Seems like if they all proxy reaper, even a pro would not be able to handle it
I dont even play the game anymore since 5 years or more, but your videos are awesome to watch. You play awesome and youre very sympathic :)
Never though gold players could be that bad. The best strategy with 100% win rate is all in with all workers by the beginning of the game.
Dude just speaks english, commentates his own gameplay while upkeeping gm level gameplay. Idk about other people speaking english as second language, but dude when I concentrate on gameplay I actually catch myself defaulting to my first language depending on how deep in focus I am.
This was brutal. Well done tearing them apart. WOW
At this point, I believe, you have to take on z and p, and all of their unit possible memes, to the extreme. And that is your way forward, as a traitor, to terran. Ultimate goal: "road to random world champ." Might put a spark in me to play again;)
Marc, if ever you find yourself in South Carolina I'd love to grab a beer!
It would be a disaster if one just mass produce widow mines, one defends with marines, Zerg just focused on eco, and a late game protoss
Man those liberators were the MVP. Can confirm as a gold player that sometimes a lib can stay sieged in one of my bases for multiple minutes
FINALLY THERMY ....i really am glad u noticed my comment on soo many videos of urs for this ...can wait to see 1 diamond vs u with 70 or 60 percent HP or 1 v 10 diamonds in archon mode with VC ...also cant wait to see u do some team games challanges as well so that way u can get ur fav portrait ❤
Very impressive and supprising, that they didnt swarmed you by their numbers. :-)
This is good stuff, more of this please
7:08 the Zerg comes to assist the Protoss but the Protoss abandons his Zerg friend lol
More games like this please!!! What a treat!
New setup idea! Fast 5 CC, but swap 2nd cc built with main orbital n turn into planetary. Then fly first orbital to natural n build the 3rd cc next to it. Once finished, swap that with orbital on natural n turn 3rd cc to planetary. Now you have protection for mineral lines on main and natural. You could then build cc 4 and 5 next to the first two planetaries for protection. Could even proxy all other structures since planetary would be enough early on!
It must take a GM to play against four players live and comment on the match live simultaneously.
There will some chance if all would do something what distracts control since 5 minutes - oracles, darks, mutas, ravens, nukes. And also big static defense to prevent harrass. Terrans may do Planetary fortress toss - lands of photons.
I think there has been some confusion.
I'm not the one in trouble here.
What?
There are only four of you. You'll need more than that.
Best video i’ve seen from you and that’s saying a lot because they’re all great
Had a situation at work today with a very bad mannered co-worker. If I had been more like Uthermal it could have been better for everyone involved. Didn't do anything wrong necessarily, but didn't do enough right and didn't keep the cool level head I should have been
This is really good training to play someone like Maru - bet it's like trying to play 10 people at once with his multitasking lol.
Challenge idea: Get 2 pro gamers to play against but they can only go up to 100 supply each. I think Archon mode is clunky and not actually like playing 2 people. Let them have their own race but limit supply to make it fair.
A Ruptured Path ToWards A Molten Core makes fancy S.C.V Clampain gain wut? *Breathes Ould Fire Towards a Rich Dregon? Yah HaRRR
Is there a rule against worker rushes?
Would not really make sense. It's 100% win rate
This would be the greatest prank tho lool
I think that was the only rule in prior challenges of this nature. Pretty open on everything else but no worker rush.
I thought the same
@@sodapopinski8064 yeah, but i dont see either canon rush+6 pool
gold player are really gentlemen to let him build his army, normally they are not so nice and will try to take out you in less of 2 minutes
Love these Marc vs. community videos, my favrouite videos!
It has begun!
This is already a bunch of fun :D
And the funny thing is, all they have to do to win is just simply rush with the drones instantly.
it looks clear they don-t want to rush him all once or 2 and after another 2 ...so ..that explain they can loose ..! big like for the chalenge 🙋🏼♂️👍😎
and what i win ? 🤣😁
You're really lucky they didn't just rush you with all their workers at the beginning.
I don't play SC2 anymore, haven't for many years. But these type of videos are fun and interesting.
Yes finally they have returned! My favorite series besides the classic bongcloud
I'm surprised that protos did not make voids. That's what I usually see in team games.
Or carriers. Literally below master every protoss either cannon rushes or goes mass carriers.
Please do more of these insane challenges vs other players! I love them so much!!!!!!
Would be interesting to see how many golds someone like Serral or Clem could beat.
The tier of this play by Thermal, actually, is just unfathomable by us mere mortals. O_o
The hot keying and movement multi tasking is unreal!
These are truly AWESOME! Can't wait to see more.
I've enjoy the live comments during the whole game! GG
Man, back in WoL Gold players actually knew how to play the game. I could ramble on, but it was clear that those 4 are absolute novices.
Good show. But. Those 4 players didn’t work AS A TEAM. example is. One Terran go 💯 on reaper harassment early while Protoss goes straight to carriers. You can’t defend against both. Zerg goes speedoings while other Terran goes bc’s. You have to split it up or ALL GROUND dies to tanks. 😂
Subscribed, love your energy made me laugh :D