You've inspired me to go put my drill and impact head to head driving 3 inch screws. brb. Edit: I just tested my Milwakee M12 brushed impact and drill. WOW! The drill drove the screws literally twice as fast as the impact. I also tested my Hart Brushed Impact and Drill and same results. Drill drove the screw effortlessly with no noise and faster, while the impact made tons of noise and took longer. I'm so surprised that I have been using the impact for driving screws and the drill for drilling holes. This entire time I could've just had a drill and been good to go. Awesome!
The overall human power that you have to use with down force a radial forces is much greater with a drill. Faster yes, more tired after 300 screws absofukinlutely. Also, you have much more control over the impact. Also again, how much did he pay you to agree with him?
That woukd be the only use for a impact driver, I mean imagine snapping a bolt off a engine mount because there to much torque, but I’m saying that that drill does have a clutch like a impact driver too
@@haretauwhare5959the clutch on an impact and drill are designed to do opposite things. An impact uses it to increase torque. A drill, reduce torque. I guess I only use impacts to remove rusty bolts that drills just stall. Im surprised this is like controversial news. Yes drills can drive screws.
@@deandufresne3671 If you guys really want to get technical. A drill has 2-3 options depending on the model. But I will talk about the main brushless drill model I purchased from Ryobi. It can do Hammer, Drill, and Torque by clutch. A impact only has the Hammer feature. Any questions?
It's called marketing. You can try to sell 2 separately for say $120 a piece for a 85% profit, or you can both for $200 for sure for a 70% profit. One is riskier than the other, but one incentives sales.
Industrial mechanic, same here. Even in the rare occasion I do need to drill wood, I have a set of hex drive drill bits so I don't need to go dig the drill out. It's a little slower, but if it saves me the walk back to the shop; then it's fine by me. 👍
Yup I even stepped it down from 18v to 12v impact Milwaukee as my daily. just cause of the size. Perfectly hangs of my pocket. I realized it has more than enough power.
My impact weighs significantly less than my drill. Holding it ALL day, I'm going to choose the impact. When I need a drill, I'll get the drill. With that, a drill has a multitude of uses beyond the predictable. If you have a screw with a messed up head, tighten the drill around it if you can get enough grip on the screw and reverse it out
I’m happy to own both, they really are different tools if you know what their strengths and weaknesses are, but they both can do some similar tasks so it’s really down to preference.
@@scottpollock1714I came across this dudes videos on Instagram a few months back and this is exactly how he was in every single comment section. He’s definitely a keyboard warrior who attacks anyone who doesn’t automatically agree with him. It’s pretty sad and pathetic. I truly wonder what he does with all the tools he buys considering he definitely doesn’t use them for building a single thing.
@@isaackvasager9957imagine using a drill to screw screws in all day long. I understand it works to screw in but in general impacts are lighter and easier to work with on a long day. This guy seems to be weird fucking dudw
Milwaukee drills are no joke some can snap wrist owt of socket if u are not careful.even if u think your super strong. There's always that one drill n . moment.
@@JuanHernandez-ov8wv When doing something serious at full torque settings, I always chuck my drill up against my leg so if it snags and twists it's not breaking my wrist lol.
I use both. But I primarily use an impact driver because its more compact, lighter, and usually faster than driving wood screws with a drill. Also to adapt the drill chuck to a driver makes the drill way to long to be useful. It’s all personal preference.
I like the drill when screwing some stuff because to me it’s quicker, like metal roofing and metal siding, I set the clutch and just drive, don’t have to worry about over or under driving. The impact is slower in my opinion because it has to impact the screw in instead of just turning it, but they both work good
Home - drill driver Work truck - impact driver and hammer drill I almost never grab the hammer drill unless using drill bits, mostly because of the size and weight compared to the impact driver. But for home use, my drill driver handles pretty much everything I need it to do in the house.
I had to drill through some bamboo and then drive in a 6 in' structural screw. I only had one, tool so I had to switch out the bit after each hole I drilled. the impact driver made the switching easier.
They’re great for automotive too. If you set your clutch up to 1 - 3, you can guarantee “hand tight” torque. Where as impact varies on finger control, which is inaccurate and not reproducible.
If you are not a finish Carpenter, then you don't use the clutch on a hammer drill. The trades either open a hole in concrete or something else and then use an impact driver that is lighter and has a bit for the specific screw you're using. If it's not opening a hole in concrete or using a holesaw, an impact does it just fine.
The newest generation of Milwaukee drills, have an anti kick back feature. If you are this driving pan heads or screws. The impact is the way to go. If you have to drill and drive, the drill is the way to go. Or keep a drill for drilling and impact for driving
Ill use the drill for finish work because of the lovely clutch but otherwise impact all the way. Way better feel and control, and ive never heard a complaint about the drive time of a milwaukee impact
The drill clutch is great in the heavy duty mechanic / industrial world. Makes sure you don’t break drill bits when drilling small holes, and when you’re drilling very large holes it makes sure you don’t break your wrist or give yourself a fat lip. Also good for running in taps and metal screws without breaking them.
Many years ago, back in Germany I used to do garage doors, window shutters, anti burglar systems and the drill was the only tool, no impact And you are a hundred percent right it worked .
It's just easier and faster to switch bits on an impact. I've also messed up a lot more Philips dry wall screws using a drill than the impact, granted I wasn't using the choke and I was still new to dry wall at that time lmao
It because it weighs 2x as much and if you work all day that matters as a matter of fact I use makita because it’s smaller and affordable. I’ve got time to change batteries on water breaks if needed but I need water more than my makita need’s batteries and yes I use the impact it also fits in a lot of places a chuck drill won’t not to mention tapping screws are meant to be driven with a impact driver and bit.
I went to harbor freight and got a brand called Bauer and was about to get a impact too but thought of this idea as well lol. but ya definitely works great for drilling holes and driving screws I've also used it for taping threads in square tubing metal.
Impacts have a particular niche for driving of small screws quickly with little fatigue to the user. I might screw down 50 wall plates a day. I could absolutely use my 3 speed hammer drill for it clutched at 2. Or.. I could use my 12v “smart” impact that weighs 1/12 what my hammer drill does. I keep both for particular things. Also have a 20v impact for driving self tappers into iron because a big drill will snap them without thinking twice while a little impact just doesn’t have the guts for it.
I love using the clutch on my drill, usually prevents me from stripping out the plastic panels in all these new vehicles and small screws in other stuff. I hear from the other guys at work, "Just use the impact trigger properly and it won't strip out!" And these are the same guys who cross-thread bolts and let the next guy worry about it, SMH. 🐺🔧
Two things I'd like to say, the first thing is yes it can be using used to drive screws but changing bits can take longer, and the second thing is if the drill has to be set higher for harder to drive fasteners you are going to have more strain on your wrists and it's going to be harder to use
I agree drill is stronger and versatile with the clutch.. the impact is great if you’re framing, so you can drill with the drill and then screw with your impact better to have both ready to go
For woodwork I suppose I can agree with you but in my line of work where I’m running fasteners through metal and concrete… I need my impact more than my drill
My Milwaukee 1/4" hex screw driver is better than both for screws. My impact is great for heavy duty situations like lag bolts but the hex screw drivers is my go to tool. It has the clutch feature just like the drill.
Just like everything else in life, when you use the right tool for the situation it goes much smoother. Like trying to pull a nail with Phillips head screwdriver 😂
I use the clutch everytime I'm doing drywall or even a metal roof I usually use a corded drill if I'm drilling through walls or something thick but let em break there wrist or knock out there teeth o well lol great video brother
When you work with nuts and bolts rather than screws and drill bits, the impact is a far superior tool. A drill won’t break a bolt loose. I will stick with my impact tools.
@@vljYWOK well how much time are we talking cos a drill will be faster 9 out of ten times maybe more. And that is just screws. If you are drilling holes there is no way an impact is faster
@@BackyardRussia its not just how fast the tool is, its also how much setup is required to get a drill on it and the weight of the tool. I would love to see a guy up a ladder reaching your hand out to maximum extension sideways and drive in a non pre drilled 3" #10 into something horizontally, or vertically up. Another one would be a 1/4 lag into a predrilled hole in the same condition. purist drill guys on the crews I've been on spend more time moving ladders than using the drill. Mind you, I'm not new construction, I'm remodeling. This means that I'm stabilizing the sins of the past while building a strong addition and I don't have the luxury of always having scaffolding or being able to be in the prefect stance and user and tool alignment to get the job done. Same reason I use mostly 12 volt tools and not 18 volt. the lightness of the tool means I'm not repositioning nearly as often, I set my ladder and can get the work done for everywhere my arms can reach instead of the drill purists being about half that. now imagine setting up ladders on steep and variable cross slops constantly, to get 12 feet across, I need 2 setups, drill guys end up with 3 or maybe even 4 if they cant use the tool off handed. Like I said, neither of us is wrong, but I personally own 2 12volt impact drivers, 1 18 volt imact wrench with adapter to just about anything including a drill if needed (for the big stuff on industrial remodel jobs). 1 12v drill/driver, 1 18v right angle drill, and 1 nasty big 18v hammer drill. all the 12 volt stuff gets the most use as I am typically doing house remodeling, and typically I have 2 of the 3 up the ladder with me at the same time 50/50 if its double impact or one drill one imact. I get it, yall love your drills, thats fine. I did that crap for the first 10 years of building, then I got my first impact 20 years ago, and while slower, I get more done at a constant gait, tortoise and the hare.
@@vljYWOKfinally a real builder. Impacts are way more user friendly on the job than a drill. Especially if you need to change bits often like in remodels or if like you said, you work in tight spaces and up on ladders where weight is a serious concern.
This man is absolutly correct. The drill is a multi pourpous tool, I love my impacts but they do have a place in the tool box just like any other tool. Personally I dont drill/screw into wood much, and taking machine screw and smaller bolts out of semi truck frames and such makes the impact my go to, but putting up TV wall mounts I will take the drill anyday since the impact typically just snaps the lags.
Impact->easier to change bits for a faster environment. But anywhere that you are doing finish work or work that requires delicate power, the clutch of the drill will be your better friend.
I dunno about all the carpentry and housing stuff, but I'm a mechanic. I dare you to break fasteners loose with a drill. You will break your wrists if the clutch is set high enough to break shit loose. Just grab an impact.
I use impact 80 percent of the time, drill i use for fastening , drilling pilot holes and using a wire wheel to clean motor shafts for motor replacement (electric motors)
Right on. Drill with clutch works better for running or removing screws, without all the ratta-tatatt noise. impact drivers often have too much bounce. Impact drivers have their place, but aren't the single best choice for everything like they are being used today.
Yep, my old 1/2” 18v Milwaukee w/ hammer has served me well. Gotta use the clutch. Speaking of Milwaukee… I was helping my brother remodel his bathroom. He told me to drill the floor plate. Handed me the huge 1/2” M. no clutch. Started to drill plate w/ a paddle bit & yep, it hung up & so powerful it actually threw me against the wall. I was 14 & skinny! He laughing his butt off. Talk about torque!! Glad for the clutch!
Impacts are smaller and easier to use especially when changing bits i only youse my drill when im using bits that dont fit in impacts or i need the hammer function or using hole saws. They make impacts for a reason.
I use both because they're different tools for different jobs. In the past everyone used combi drills as drivers and there's a good reason why they switched to using impact drivers but that being said an impact driver can't replace a combi drill. Different tools for different jobs.
I hate impact drills. You have much more control with a regular drill. I use it for machine screws and furniture assembly even though the directions say "no drill." A drill can turn as softly as a screwdriver if you press lightly on the trigger and use the clutch and the torque settings. The settings on the drill make it impossible to strip a screw or hole.
Drill is perfect to ensure you don't overdrive and ruin a piece you're working on. Impact driver is good to tighten metal to metal or budge a lag that isn't moving.
He's right. I can do a multitude or tasks with my m12. Delicate tasks like installing components onto computers and network serves then use it for carpentry and sending screws into 2x4s.
You have a great point. Impact is still superior in my opinion. An impact does a drills job better, than a drill can do an impacts job. At least in my limited experience.
I found that out with an old 120v Milwaukee right angle drill my first week in construction, using a hole saw between studs, it bit my hand pretty good lol, I know how to position myself now though
I do construction. It's actually faster to have the drill set up for drilling holes and an impact set up to drive the screws. It's the bit swaps that add a lot of time to the work.
You’re partially right in my mind anyways. I noticed you have the drill/driver adapter to accept 1/4” hex bits which a lot of people don’t have or even know it exists. Without that adapter, a drill/driver isn’t really something you should use with any 1/4” hex bits because they’re just going to get ruined & wear out extremely fast to the point they’re completely rounded off. Impact drivers I think are better if you have trigger discipline & don’t just kill fasteners by “floorin’ it” whenever you pull the trigger because the amount of 1/4” hex impact rated bits are a lot more common than bits made for a drill or a chuck that you tighten down onto the bit. At least these days. & impact drivers have more torque & power to handle tougher applications that even the most powerful drill/driver on the market wouldn’t be capable of handling. I think the clutch on a drill is better for using on fragile workpieces or working on someone’s expensive countertop/cabinet where an impact would just be to risky & more likely for an expensive mistake to happen. Maybe you should make a video on how to use a drills clutch to educate people. Because a surprising number of people don’t even know what the clutch is used for.
I been in the carpentry business since I was 14 and I have been saying this since I was 17.. my impacts just collect dust until I’m working on a vehicle
If it is breaking your wrist you are a complete puzzy. Try getting out and working with your hands once in awhile. My 80 year old mom can use a dang drill and not cry about her wrists. Problem with society these days.
I like both tools. I think it’s important for a drill user to make sure that they use the clutch correctly or they might possibly damage the clutch and then the drill.
The impact definetly has advantages. I use it because it's lighter and smaller than the drill that came in the set with it and it dose 90% of what I need it to do
I have the small m12 drill and surge impact in a small bag that goes with my main tool bag when I go inside the building for control mounting for the machines I install. The big drill is for fabrication, the little ones do the job perfectly with no hiccups. Sure the big one is more versatile, but it doesn’t fit well in my set up so she stays at the truck until some holes need drillin
@@jamesosborne8064 I have Dewalt as well. I was just repeating a joke. When I found out the replacement battery was $100 I bought a Mikita drill motor and impact instead.
@@benschnute6074 yes my my impacts have same feature. I was speaking more a mechanical clutch like installation drivers and drills. I find these super useful. But
Drills are better when you have really long screws, for shorts use an impact. Plus the new drills that will and can break your wrist come with a support, use it if you're not familiar with the tool yet and the proper way to handle it. Additionally the newer drills have an anti kickback feature in them that kills the drill if it senses it grabbed something and kicked, saving your wrist.
I have been using my drill so much more lately instead of grabing the impact. When years ago when i got my first set i always grabbed the impact for stuff and now unless i need true heavy, speed, or mobility just gra the drill
One of the Biggest Difference is that the Impact wont Strip the Screw when driving them in as much as a Drill will but the Drill can be faster inmost instances
Fence guys used a Impact driver to install our new gate. ( Hinges ) Five lag screws broke in a couple of months. They use cheap lag screws. Replaced with TimberLok 2 1/2" 64mm - tempered lag screws . Bought at Home Depot Used my cordless drill.
Good drills also have kick back control, which automatically shuts of the drill, instead of braking your wrist. In germany drills are used a lot. Obviously they are much better at actually drilling. They are also better in screwing longer screws in wood. On the other band impract wrenches are really good for nuts and bolts and especially everything in the automative sector.
Impacts being reactionless and usually lighter and stubbier makes it a great pistol shooter during rough in’s in the trades. Drills are good if you know how to use it and account for the torque. Using a drill for finishing, cabinets etc. the clutch comes in clutch.
Yes using the clutch won’t break your wrist but the settings will be different on fastener and on material and to set the clutch will eat up the time you save by the drill doings it faster also drills are longer making it more difficult use in location and to buy a quick change bit to adds an extra part needed to quickly change between drive heads where that’s all ready built in to the impact and they even build drill bits rated for impacts with that hex 1/4 bit cause that’s what you don’t seem to grasp is by not needing to fine tune it and with the tool head being significantly smaller that help speeds up the time in between driving fasteners and no fine tuning required to avoid injury
I have the hex impact and also the drill both in M12v, they both have thier own purpose so just buy both and keep going about your day 😊….then buy the m12 cut off saw, the lighting skins, the mini polisher, the heated jackets, and have 14 spare batteries
As a kid I remember only ever using the drill. Somewhere around 2010 or so, everyone I know started using impacts for everything. I'm not sure where the shift came from, but it seems like you never see a drill pulled out except to drill holes anymore. Impacts are awesome for mechanic work, but nothing beats the drill for big screws in wood.
The change happened when all of the old hands, the dudes with decades of experience, started retiring. There was a huge skill gap that followed and crews would get thrown an impact because it takes no extra knowledge to run one.
@ToolswithSoAlz I see... that's very interesting and sad. You even see carpenter and framing crews running zero drills and all impacts nowadays. Thank you for posting. TH-cam shorts has taught me so much 😂
I use a m12s a lot for mechanic work, cars and lawnmower the brand new drill in speed one will pull off anything on a small engine, lawnmower ect and not break bits unlike a 1/4 impact, drills definitely take over in many cases, I’m 18 and you sir have taught me that. On a side note obviously impact are more fit for high torque applications But I pulled a starter off a 5.3 with a m12 drill, that’s just damn impressive.
I use both, but find myself using the impact more simply because it’s lighter and more compact. The driver bit also seems less apt to slip off the fastener- mainly using Philips and t25
The impact is superior when driving screws. It's much smaller, lighter, and faster. The drill is more versatile, though. If I could only have 1 of them, I would pick the drill, but when you have both, the impact gets used more.
You've inspired me to go put my drill and impact head to head driving 3 inch screws. brb.
Edit: I just tested my Milwakee M12 brushed impact and drill. WOW! The drill drove the screws literally twice as fast as the impact.
I also tested my Hart Brushed Impact and Drill and same results. Drill drove the screw effortlessly with no noise and faster, while the impact made tons of noise and took longer.
I'm so surprised that I have been using the impact for driving screws and the drill for drilling holes. This entire time I could've just had a drill and been good to go. Awesome!
Thank you for sharing your experience
Can you prove him wrong?
Thank you good sir 🫡
What’s an impact driver 😄
The overall human power that you have to use with down force a radial forces is much greater with a drill. Faster yes, more tired after 300 screws absofukinlutely.
Also, you have much more control over the impact.
Also again, how much did he pay you to agree with him?
As a mechanic, drills are for drilling, and impacts are for fasteners.
That woukd be the only use for a impact driver, I mean imagine snapping a bolt off a engine mount because there to much torque, but I’m saying that that drill does have a clutch like a impact driver too
Impacts are great at removing fasteners. Drills are great for putting fasteners in.
When you try to draw mechanics into the argument and so far fail! 😳😂😂😂🤦 but here I'm with you 99.9%
@@haretauwhare5959the clutch on an impact and drill are designed to do opposite things. An impact uses it to increase torque. A drill, reduce torque. I guess I only use impacts to remove rusty bolts that drills just stall. Im surprised this is like controversial news. Yes drills can drive screws.
@@deandufresne3671 If you guys really want to get technical. A drill has 2-3 options depending on the model. But I will talk about the main brushless drill model I purchased from Ryobi. It can do Hammer, Drill, and Torque by clutch.
A impact only has the Hammer feature. Any questions?
There's a reason that they typically come in a kit together.
Good point
It's called marketing. You can try to sell 2 separately for say $120 a piece for a 85% profit, or you can both for $200 for sure for a 70% profit. One is riskier than the other, but one incentives sales.
@@tobybigham4196 Strange, that particular marketing has a lot of utility for most people.
@despraterado588 Helps if you kids know what you're talking about before offering up an opinion
@@despraterado588 ma'am a drill is called a drill driver because it drives. Let it sink in.
In the automotive industry the impact is the superior tool.
Industrial mechanic, same here. Even in the rare occasion I do need to drill wood, I have a set of hex drive drill bits so I don't need to go dig the drill out. It's a little slower, but if it saves me the walk back to the shop; then it's fine by me. 👍
@@Jester_The_Jynxster exactly.
Impact driver and impact wrench is a apples to oranges comparison
If you’re using an impact driver while working on a car, you’re doing something wrong….
For sure, I can fit that compact M12 driver anywhere I want.
I use both everyday, impacts are lighter and are less tiring over a workday
Yup I even stepped it down from 18v to 12v impact Milwaukee as my daily. just cause of the size. Perfectly hangs of my pocket. I realized it has more than enough power.
My impact weighs significantly less than my drill. Holding it ALL day, I'm going to choose the impact. When I need a drill, I'll get the drill. With that, a drill has a multitude of uses beyond the predictable. If you have a screw with a messed up head, tighten the drill around it if you can get enough grip on the screw and reverse it out
Yea, a drill can be a hammer too
@@fabianmayerevery tool is a hammer if you use it wrong enough
Must suck being soft.
@@Urapunkmy gen 4 m18 impact is one hell of a hammer
M12 gang rahh 💪😠
I’m happy to own both, they really are different tools if you know what their strengths and weaknesses are, but they both can do some similar tasks so it’s really down to preference.
Yep, pull out the impact for the hd stuff imo
I wanna see someone frame heavy metal with a hammer drill 🤣🤣 🤡
@fernyisable5 Princess if you're not smart enough to understand the video then don't advertise it here. Maybe get your husband to explain it to you.
@@scottpollock1714I came across this dudes videos on Instagram a few months back and this is exactly how he was in every single comment section. He’s definitely a keyboard warrior who attacks anyone who doesn’t automatically agree with him. It’s pretty sad and pathetic. I truly wonder what he does with all the tools he buys considering he definitely doesn’t use them for building a single thing.
@@isaackvasager9957imagine using a drill to screw screws in all day long. I understand it works to screw in but in general impacts are lighter and easier to work with on a long day. This guy seems to be weird fucking dudw
I always have both simply because one is not superior to the other. They excel at at different levels in each job but are interchangeable if necessary
If they're breaking your wrist... you got soft hands boi
Yes sir
Or, you know, just set the torque lower than your arm strength.
Kinda what I was thinking. Lol
Milwaukee drills are no joke some can snap wrist owt of socket if u are not careful.even if u think your super strong. There's always that one drill n . moment.
@@JuanHernandez-ov8wv When doing something serious at full torque settings, I always chuck my drill up against my leg so if it snags and twists it's not breaking my wrist lol.
I use both. But I primarily use an impact driver because its more compact, lighter, and usually faster than driving wood screws with a drill. Also to adapt the drill chuck to a driver makes the drill way to long to be useful. It’s all personal preference.
I like the drill when screwing some stuff because to me it’s quicker, like metal roofing and metal siding, I set the clutch and just drive, don’t have to worry about over or under driving. The impact is slower in my opinion because it has to impact the screw in instead of just turning it, but they both work good
Impacts are also less likely to strip Phillips screws.
@@Nate-ld7zj the new gen 4 m18 impact has a new metal roof setting on the impact. It stops when it's done even if u don't let the trigger go
@@ctrlaltdebugless likely to strip more likely to snap.
Home - drill driver
Work truck - impact driver and hammer drill
I almost never grab the hammer drill unless using drill bits, mostly because of the size and weight compared to the impact driver. But for home use, my drill driver handles pretty much everything I need it to do in the house.
I buy whatever the fu ck I want with my money😂
That’s right you can’t be closer to the truth
Best comment ever 😂
I had to drill through some bamboo and then drive in a 6 in' structural screw. I only had one, tool so I had to switch out the bit after each hole I drilled. the impact driver made the switching easier.
They’re great for automotive too. If you set your clutch up to 1 - 3, you can guarantee “hand tight” torque. Where as impact varies on finger control, which is inaccurate and not reproducible.
Depends on the impact. Mine can detect when the fastener it tight and stop turning.
@Fobes most of them can
If you are not a finish Carpenter, then you don't use the clutch on a hammer drill. The trades either open a hole in concrete or something else and then use an impact driver that is lighter and has a bit for the specific screw you're using. If it's not opening a hole in concrete or using a holesaw, an impact does it just fine.
I use both, but the Impact Driver has many advantages, including a smaller footprint which helps in tight corners.
The newest generation of Milwaukee drills, have an anti kick back feature. If you are this driving pan heads or screws. The impact is the way to go. If you have to drill and drive, the drill is the way to go. Or keep a drill for drilling and impact for driving
Both is best - drive fasteners with the impact, drill with the drill, don't have to mess with changing bits
Ill use the drill for finish work because of the lovely clutch but otherwise impact all the way. Way better feel and control, and ive never heard a complaint about the drive time of a milwaukee impact
Ppl keep telling me drill is dead but I still use mine all the time, both tools are needed imo
Let the next guy be the one to strip out the screw/hole
The drill clutch is great in the heavy duty mechanic / industrial world. Makes sure you don’t break drill bits when drilling small holes, and when you’re drilling very large holes it makes sure you don’t break your wrist or give yourself a fat lip. Also good for running in taps and metal screws without breaking them.
🍻🍻 someone who knows
The impact driver usually comes with the drill. One is not better than the other. They're different tools with different applications.
The drill is for drilling holes and running rotary brushes and sanding discs. The impact is for fasteners.
I am always confused by people use impact driver, I am with you, I did not use an impact driver for years. You make so much sense!!
Yes sir
Many years ago, back in Germany I used to do garage doors, window shutters, anti burglar systems and the drill was the only tool, no impact And you are a hundred percent right it worked .
Thank you for sharing your experience
i prefer my impact driver just cause its lighter and smaller in size for tight spots
bingo, don't need the weight for hvac, have a chuck bit for non impact bits
Love the Milwaukee Fuel impact driver! ❤
Being saying this for years, impact drivers were a gimmick that all the Millennials fell for
It's just easier and faster to switch bits on an impact. I've also messed up a lot more Philips dry wall screws using a drill than the impact, granted I wasn't using the choke and I was still new to dry wall at that time lmao
It because it weighs 2x as much and if you work all day that matters as a matter of fact I use makita because it’s smaller and affordable. I’ve got time to change batteries on water breaks if needed but I need water more than my makita need’s batteries and yes I use the impact it also fits in a lot of places a chuck drill won’t not to mention tapping screws are meant to be driven with a impact driver and bit.
I hate impacts, I only use a drill now, I don’t even own an impact anymore..
I went to harbor freight and got a brand called Bauer and was about to get a impact too but thought of this idea as well lol. but ya definitely works great for drilling holes and driving screws I've also used it for taping threads in square tubing metal.
Impacts have a particular niche for driving of small screws quickly with little fatigue to the user. I might screw down 50 wall plates a day. I could absolutely use my 3 speed hammer drill for it clutched at 2. Or.. I could use my 12v “smart” impact that weighs 1/12 what my hammer drill does. I keep both for particular things. Also have a 20v impact for driving self tappers into iron because a big drill will snap them without thinking twice while a little impact just doesn’t have the guts for it.
I love using the clutch on my drill, usually prevents me from stripping out the plastic panels in all these new vehicles and small screws in other stuff.
I hear from the other guys at work, "Just use the impact trigger properly and it won't strip out!" And these are the same guys who cross-thread bolts and let the next guy worry about it, SMH. 🐺🔧
Professionism is a skill that can't be taught
Oh I use my DeWalt with a clutch all the time for airplane s***. Makes putting floorboards down a lot easier
I use the impact all the time, the clutch does not keep you from snapping off tek screws in 1/8" plate.
Two things I'd like to say, the first thing is yes it can be using used to drive screws but changing bits can take longer, and the second thing is if the drill has to be set higher for harder to drive fasteners you are going to have more strain on your wrists and it's going to be harder to use
Put a Drill on 4 or 5 and it will put a drywall screw flash to drywall very nicely
Exactly...
Wood or metal stud?
I agree drill is stronger and versatile with the clutch.. the impact is great if you’re framing, so you can drill with the drill and then screw with your impact better to have both ready to go
For woodwork I suppose I can agree with you but in my line of work where I’m running fasteners through metal and concrete… I need my impact more than my drill
Top comment already said it but for me I'm predominantly dealing with cars so the impact is better suited. It was also on a crazy sale so it was a win
New Milwaukee drills don’t break wrist at the end of drilling holes they have a auto stop that is bad ass
And Kobalt, Flex, and skil have had that for a long time. Chevron has been using the e stop for drills for at least 5 years maybe more
@mattadams7922 what about bosch?
My Milwaukee 1/4" hex screw driver is better than both for screws. My impact is great for heavy duty situations like lag bolts but the hex screw drivers is my go to tool.
It has the clutch feature just like the drill.
Honestly our m18 fuel hammer drill we gotta use the clutch for drilling steel cause when it catches it don’t stop
Just like everything else in life, when you use the right tool for the situation it goes much smoother. Like trying to pull a nail with Phillips head screwdriver 😂
I still don't have an impact for plumbing, I've been using the same DeWalt hammer drill since 2014, before that was a Porter Cable 1/2" drill.
The drill is much more versatile
I use the clutch everytime I'm doing drywall or even a metal roof I usually use a corded drill if I'm drilling through walls or something thick but let em break there wrist or knock out there teeth o well lol great video brother
Only time to use a combi drill to drive screws, is when you have a neighbour that complains about noise
When you work with nuts and bolts rather than screws and drill bits, the impact is a far superior tool. A drill won’t break a bolt loose. I will stick with my impact tools.
If I had to choose only one, drill all day.
Exactly
Funny, I would go impact all day. Neither of us is wrong, just get the work done in a timely manner and it don't matter.
@@vljYWOK well how much time are we talking cos a drill will be faster 9 out of ten times maybe more. And that is just screws. If you are drilling holes there is no way an impact is faster
@@BackyardRussia its not just how fast the tool is, its also how much setup is required to get a drill on it and the weight of the tool. I would love to see a guy up a ladder reaching your hand out to maximum extension sideways and drive in a non pre drilled 3" #10 into something horizontally, or vertically up. Another one would be a 1/4 lag into a predrilled hole in the same condition. purist drill guys on the crews I've been on spend more time moving ladders than using the drill. Mind you, I'm not new construction, I'm remodeling. This means that I'm stabilizing the sins of the past while building a strong addition and I don't have the luxury of always having scaffolding or being able to be in the prefect stance and user and tool alignment to get the job done. Same reason I use mostly 12 volt tools and not 18 volt. the lightness of the tool means I'm not repositioning nearly as often, I set my ladder and can get the work done for everywhere my arms can reach instead of the drill purists being about half that. now imagine setting up ladders on steep and variable cross slops constantly, to get 12 feet across, I need 2 setups, drill guys end up with 3 or maybe even 4 if they cant use the tool off handed.
Like I said, neither of us is wrong, but I personally own 2 12volt impact drivers, 1 18 volt imact wrench with adapter to just about anything including a drill if needed (for the big stuff on industrial remodel jobs). 1 12v drill/driver, 1 18v right angle drill, and 1 nasty big 18v hammer drill. all the 12 volt stuff gets the most use as I am typically doing house remodeling, and typically I have 2 of the 3 up the ladder with me at the same time 50/50 if its double impact or one drill one imact.
I get it, yall love your drills, thats fine. I did that crap for the first 10 years of building, then I got my first impact 20 years ago, and while slower, I get more done at a constant gait, tortoise and the hare.
@@vljYWOKfinally a real builder. Impacts are way more user friendly on the job than a drill. Especially if you need to change bits often like in remodels or if like you said, you work in tight spaces and up on ladders where weight is a serious concern.
It's also a lot heavier. The impact is better for fasteners but you need the drill too. Mostly in low gear.
This man is absolutly correct. The drill is a multi pourpous tool, I love my impacts but they do have a place in the tool box just like any other tool. Personally I dont drill/screw into wood much, and taking machine screw and smaller bolts out of semi truck frames and such makes the impact my go to, but putting up TV wall mounts I will take the drill anyday since the impact typically just snaps the lags.
Impact->easier to change bits for a faster environment. But anywhere that you are doing finish work or work that requires delicate power, the clutch of the drill will be your better friend.
I use my clutch all the time. I default to the impact more than I should tbh but I definitely know how to use the drill to it's full potential
I like it
I dunno about all the carpentry and housing stuff, but I'm a mechanic. I dare you to break fasteners loose with a drill.
You will break your wrists if the clutch is set high enough to break shit loose. Just grab an impact.
I use impact 80 percent of the time, drill i use for fastening , drilling pilot holes and using a wire wheel to clean motor shafts for motor replacement (electric motors)
I found out that my supervisor didn’t know what the adjustable clutch was for, he didn’t even know what it was
I'm not surprised. Still sad
What’s it for?
And what is it actually??? Asking for a friend lol
@@Fatboypeet it’s for allowing the clutch to disengage at a given torque, which prevents ruining the wood when you over-tighten the screws
@adamacosta7279 100%
Right on. Drill with clutch works better for running or removing screws, without all the ratta-tatatt noise. impact drivers often have too much bounce. Impact drivers have their place, but aren't the single best choice for everything like they are being used today.
Yes sir
The impact drives me crazy, a impact is for bolts. Not little screws, I'd rather ram it home, than peck at it with a impact!
Yep, my old 1/2” 18v Milwaukee w/ hammer has served me well. Gotta use the clutch. Speaking of Milwaukee… I was helping my brother remodel his bathroom. He told me to drill the floor plate. Handed me the huge 1/2” M. no clutch. Started to drill plate w/ a paddle bit & yep, it hung up & so powerful it actually threw me against the wall. I was 14 & skinny!
He laughing his butt off. Talk about torque!! Glad for the clutch!
Your absolutely right I rarely use the impact because the drill driver puts screws in faster and quieter.
Exactly
Impacts are smaller and easier to use especially when changing bits i only youse my drill when im using bits that dont fit in impacts or i need the hammer function or using hole saws. They make impacts for a reason.
I use both because they're different tools for different jobs.
In the past everyone used combi drills as drivers and there's a good reason why they switched to using impact drivers but that being said an impact driver can't replace a combi drill.
Different tools for different jobs.
I hate impact drills. You have much more control with a regular drill. I use it for machine screws and furniture assembly even though the directions say "no drill." A drill can turn as softly as a screwdriver if you press lightly on the trigger and use the clutch and the torque settings. The settings on the drill make it impossible to strip a screw or hole.
Drill is perfect to ensure you don't overdrive and ruin a piece you're working on. Impact driver is good to tighten metal to metal or budge a lag that isn't moving.
He's right. I can do a multitude or tasks with my m12. Delicate tasks like installing components onto computers and network serves then use it for carpentry and sending screws into 2x4s.
Thank you
You have a great point. Impact is still superior in my opinion. An impact does a drills job better, than a drill can do an impacts job. At least in my limited experience.
I work in an office space and I have found that the drill is more quiet and quicker most of the time.
What’s the point of buying tools if you can’t buy more of them 😂
The people that think the impact driver is superior to the drill should not be buying tools
Only a rich man can afford cheap tools. 🤪😂😂
They’ve never used an old Milwaukee 120v concrete hammer drill before. That shit will actually break your wrist if you aren’t careful
Kids seem to think nothing ever got done until they invented the impact driver
Slap a Diablo 4 cutter carbide rebar cutting bit on that bad boy 🔥🔥 yes that shit is FUN and can mess you up lol
I found that out with an old 120v Milwaukee right angle drill my first week in construction, using a hole saw between studs, it bit my hand pretty good lol, I know how to position myself now though
Only thing worse than that is a handheld core drill. Talk about terrifying
I do construction. It's actually faster to have the drill set up for drilling holes and an impact set up to drive the screws. It's the bit swaps that add a lot of time to the work.
You’re partially right in my mind anyways. I noticed you have the drill/driver adapter to accept 1/4” hex bits which a lot of people don’t have or even know it exists. Without that adapter, a drill/driver isn’t really something you should use with any 1/4” hex bits because they’re just going to get ruined & wear out extremely fast to the point they’re completely rounded off. Impact drivers I think are better if you have trigger discipline & don’t just kill fasteners by “floorin’ it” whenever you pull the trigger because the amount of 1/4” hex impact rated bits are a lot more common than bits made for a drill or a chuck that you tighten down onto the bit. At least these days. & impact drivers have more torque & power to handle tougher applications that even the most powerful drill/driver on the market wouldn’t be capable of handling. I think the clutch on a drill is better for using on fragile workpieces or working on someone’s expensive countertop/cabinet where an impact would just be to risky & more likely for an expensive mistake to happen. Maybe you should make a video on how to use a drills clutch to educate people. Because a surprising number of people don’t even know what the clutch is used for.
I been in the carpentry business since I was 14 and I have been saying this since I was 17.. my impacts just collect dust until I’m working on a vehicle
New milwaukee drill comes with autostop so it doesnt break your wrist👍🏼
If it is breaking your wrist you are a complete puzzy. Try getting out and working with your hands once in awhile. My 80 year old mom can use a dang drill and not cry about her wrists. Problem with society these days.
I like both tools.
I think it’s important for a drill user to make sure that they use the clutch correctly or they might possibly damage the clutch and then the drill.
Yes sir
The impact definetly has advantages. I use it because it's lighter and smaller than the drill that came in the set with it and it dose 90% of what I need it to do
Wrists are meant to be happy not snappy lol
Lol!
Both have unique good features. Not that expensive to own both
Yeah
Both have a purpose- a drill is multi-purpose-whatever you set it up for, an impact driver is best at fasteners
I have the small m12 drill and surge impact in a small bag that goes with my main tool bag when I go inside the building for control mounting for the machines I install. The big drill is for fabrication, the little ones do the job perfectly with no hiccups. Sure the big one is more versatile, but it doesn’t fit well in my set up so she stays at the truck until some holes need drillin
If it’s yellow and black you’ll be takin’ it back 😂😂😂
Ok
9 years strong no issues but a few new batteries.
@@jamesosborne8064 I have Dewalt as well. I was just repeating a joke.
When I found out the replacement battery was $100 I bought a Mikita drill motor and impact instead.
DeWalts new stuff from the last year or so is as good or better than anything else on the market
Right tool right job. Both of these are essential in construction. The next big thing for impacts will be limiting clutches. Wait and see 👍
I hope so
Already kinda a thing my new impact has a setting for delicate driving it’s not a traditional clutch like a drill but it stops before it strips
@@benschnute6074 yes my my impacts have same feature. I was speaking more a mechanical clutch like installation drivers and drills. I find these super useful. But
Drills are better when you have really long screws, for shorts use an impact. Plus the new drills that will and can break your wrist come with a support, use it if you're not familiar with the tool yet and the proper way to handle it.
Additionally the newer drills have an anti kickback feature in them that kills the drill if it senses it grabbed something and kicked, saving your wrist.
I agree! The Drill is more versatile, but I prefer to use an impact driver for screws and bolts, and I never drill a hole with an impact.
I have been using my drill so much more lately instead of grabing the impact. When years ago when i got my first set i always grabbed the impact for stuff and now unless i need true heavy, speed, or mobility just gra the drill
One of the Biggest Difference is that the Impact wont Strip the Screw when driving them in as much as a Drill will but the Drill can be faster inmost instances
Fence guys used a Impact driver to install our new gate. ( Hinges ) Five lag screws broke in a couple of months. They use cheap lag screws. Replaced with TimberLok 2 1/2" 64mm - tempered lag screws . Bought at Home Depot Used my cordless drill.
Good drills also have kick back control, which automatically shuts of the drill, instead of braking your wrist.
In germany drills are used a lot. Obviously they are much better at actually drilling. They are also better in screwing longer screws in wood.
On the other band impract wrenches are really good for nuts and bolts and especially everything in the automative sector.
Completely agree! The impact driver is now used for everything and I see more damage to installs due to using the impact driver instead of a drill
Yes sir
I used to work with 1 drill alone to do all my work but i recently got the sds and impact screw gun and all is working together great
Impact drivers and drills can both be used interchangeably but they are both better at certain jobs
Impacts being reactionless and usually lighter and stubbier makes it a great pistol shooter during rough in’s in the trades. Drills are good if you know how to use it and account for the torque. Using a drill for finishing, cabinets etc. the clutch comes in clutch.
Yes using the clutch won’t break your wrist but the settings will be different on fastener and on material and to set the clutch will eat up the time you save by the drill doings it faster also drills are longer making it more difficult use in location and to buy a quick change bit to adds an extra part needed to quickly change between drive heads where that’s all ready built in to the impact and they even build drill bits rated for impacts with that hex 1/4 bit cause that’s what you don’t seem to grasp is by not needing to fine tune it and with the tool head being significantly smaller that help speeds up the time in between driving fasteners and no fine tuning required to avoid injury
I have the hex impact and also the drill both in M12v, they both have thier own purpose so just buy both and keep going about your day 😊….then buy the m12 cut off saw, the lighting skins, the mini polisher, the heated jackets, and have 14 spare batteries
As a kid I remember only ever using the drill. Somewhere around 2010 or so, everyone I know started using impacts for everything. I'm not sure where the shift came from, but it seems like you never see a drill pulled out except to drill holes anymore. Impacts are awesome for mechanic work, but nothing beats the drill for big screws in wood.
The change happened when all of the old hands, the dudes with decades of experience, started retiring. There was a huge skill gap that followed and crews would get thrown an impact because it takes no extra knowledge to run one.
@ToolswithSoAlz I see... that's very interesting and sad. You even see carpenter and framing crews running zero drills and all impacts nowadays. Thank you for posting. TH-cam shorts has taught me so much 😂
I use a m12s a lot for mechanic work, cars and lawnmower the brand new drill in speed one will pull off anything on a small engine, lawnmower ect and not break bits unlike a 1/4 impact, drills definitely take over in many cases, I’m 18 and you sir have taught me that. On a side note obviously impact are more fit for high torque applications
But I pulled a starter off a 5.3 with a m12 drill, that’s just damn impressive.
I use both, but find myself using the impact more simply because it’s lighter and more compact. The driver bit also seems less apt to slip off the fastener- mainly using Philips and t25
The impact is superior when driving screws. It's much smaller, lighter, and faster. The drill is more versatile, though. If I could only have 1 of them, I would pick the drill, but when you have both, the impact gets used more.
What if they started to actually teach how to properly use it instead of pointing out the obvious
Anyone else appreciating the flex drill with that battery big enough to jump your truck?