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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2017
- Believe it or not, there are actually some people who make a living drawing comic books and graphic novels. Rosemary Valero-O’Connell is one of the lucky few who does, and she’s only 22-years-old.
Rosemary received her B.F.A. in comic art from the Minneapolis College of Art and Design and she currently lives in Minnesota, self-publishing her books while also working as a freelance artist.
Valero-O’Connell talks to VICE News about money, being an artist in Minneapolis, and how she balances her health with the need to make a living.
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I see a lot of the comments harping on how much she makes or questioning her choice to be a cartoonist but when you think about it, she's 22, self-employed AND doing something she loves. Roughly 30k a year at that age isn't horrible AND the added bonus of actually getting to be happy/fulfilled. Of course she's not pulling in what some other degrees might net you right out of the gate but her career is just starting, I'd say she's doing pretty well for herself and can't wait to see where she goes from here. Wish I had half of that work ethic...
**I've been following for a while now, cool to put a face to the name.
Dude, 30k for an artist or designer still finishing school is a shit ton, I worked with 40 year old full time working artists in New York who were lucky to make that after being artists most of their lives. The idea that she might make double that the following year is literally INSANE. Very few artists will make that in any given year in their entire lives. Of the over 40 or 50 artists I know personally from school or work I can think of maybe 5 percent that make something around 60k, 8 years after graduating from college. I can't say for sure, but a lot gave up on it altogether by now to find better paying reliable employment.
I believe in bad luck much more than in good luck. She says she is lucky (behind success, in art, tends to be more work than luck)... She is not "lucky"... Look at her drawing, lines, composition. She's quite good ! :) Wish I'd make what she makes now a year, but in any case, I'm happy for her :) . If at least some are getting decent pay for very special skills and talent, that's good by itself. The rest of us, will keep drawing to catch a good wave/wind ;)
Hell I'm 27 make about 30k a year in a city with a much higher cost of living at a job I HATE and I'm still considered successful. Having a job doing what you love making that much money at 22 is amazing! More power to her! She's an incredibly talented artist with the drive to become sucessful!
Life cost and expenses, salary, bosses and company colleagues, activity (in terms of it being your passion, or just something you like, or something yo hate and that makes every new Monday sth you really would like to avoid in every way...) ..is all a complex equation, is the final combination, the result what counts. Have had almost all variants (like they say, been there, done that), and I can totally say she is in on a nice spot (to be happy with what she does). :)
One other thing is the workaholic profile... You might looove your work, may it be your passion. But the temptation of reducing drastically social/family life to get more and more hours in a job that is your passion... is a very bad path... IMO. You need to work well and steady, but there's room for everything...
I feel like the stress of the workload and getting enough to make ends meet will take the enjoyment out of the art for me. I've heard of musicians who end up hating making music because it's not a fun hobby anymore, it's work. Idk, I'm studying for a stem job and planning to work art as a side hustle; good for her but realistically sometimes you gotta compromise.
While she is talented; Survivor bias- you don;t see them making videos about the homeless artists who didn't get the opportunities she did
If anyone is interested in her work, she did a short comic about grief called "If Only Once, If Only For A Little While" that's just breathtaking
read it...
I am fucking rekt. It's fantastic.
where did you read it? I can't seem to find it anywhere
I can't find it either most urls aren't working
Where can we read it???
The comic is viewable at the first hit that Google provided when I searched for the name of the comic in quotes. zco.mx/RosemaryValeroOConnell/IfOnlyOnceIfOnlyForALittleWhile
When you're pursuing illustration or cartooning as your profession it's incredibly hard just to get your foot in the door - and having worked in the field for the past thirty years I can say that with some authority. Having been a teacher at MCAD, where Rosemary and Maddi both attended, I have found their work ethic and dedication to the craft inspiring. Looking forward to seeing more of their work, and wishing them all the best in their future endeavors!
Good to read such comments :)
Fully agree. The little I saw in the video already tells me that she seems to have very solid drawing skills (specially 3:15 , what she's drawing atm and the kid and others at the right page). I ...worked in many fields, not so much in comics (I've done quite some work at it, tho), but always drawing in those fields....And yep! (I don't think I saw the other girl's art) Rosemary's drawing skill is solid. And I am VERY harsh (I mean, it stays in my mind, I don't do harsh critics publicly) when I see bad drawing. Late years I've learnt to shut up, so, you'd only hear/read sth of me about a comic/painting/drawing if I do think it's good... I don't point out anymore errors, or do bad critics, as artists have enough to fight against already (personal advice by a PM/mail... yep, always when it is asked, if have the time... and even then, said all tenderly, constructive criticism. )
I remember the times in the 80s and 90s. Back then comics were king in my area at least, I was a young lad (am 45), I dreamed to live like back then a ton (well, not so many, as people fully dedicated up to nerd levels of drawing, has been always not a major % of the population. Life is hard to do so, for most.) of women and men could live, just from their comic work. In Europe at least it was in those days a somewhat healthy industry. It got almost annihilated by a number of factors, mostly video-clubs, video games, major increase of TV content. Cinema films were never of the frequency as to damage comics world, if anything, it did feed comic in style matters, and vice versa (think of Eisner, and many others...a two ways exchange).. the medium went from being almost the main entertainment for young people (my dad is a great example, all the kids he knew, too) and even kids, to become less and less important with the years and tech. Luckily, nostalgic feelings of some us, sharp industry instinct of some big and small companies to attract the young ones in some niches (manga and superheros as an initial safe branch to resist) and the natural freshness of this expressive art (imo it is what saves itself always), kept the thing reviving again and again, like an eternal cycle of a phoenix bird vanishing and rising.
I wish it'd be like back then...Today one who knows how to draw can do the valiant thing (I admire people like Rosemary to no end. Rose, you are not just a ink, pencil and paper freelancer, you are a heroine....) or... do like me, I just use my drawing skills to convince companies to contract me counting on those skills as an interesting add-on and/or base, but actually in jobs as a game artist, or as a graphic designer. The closer to what she has the valor to do, in my case, is that now I'm a full time freelance illustrator... Well, that's not very fair, to put it so.. as is a profession just as hard, in certain ways. I really wish these profiles (comic artist, illustrator, painter) would get MUCH more consideration than what they get. Not necessarily as much as what a film actor gets (once he/she gets some sort of role even in an TV ad!, ofc) but at least, as a regular profession. There's a ton of jobs that base on the mere function of providing content, and the industry of entertainment is huge, as to not consider comic and all other ones, as jobs in its full right, like any other thing. I doubt that will ever be the case (and I mean, even considered so by people, not just by the companies, bosses, etc... look how many yet do say that of..."hey, get a real job" when speaking about someone making a living - or trying to- as a comic artist), but after many things, I no longer pretend that I can guess the future, that's for sure...
That is no complaint. Being a painter since always, I found my way as a teacher, web designer, later web developer (yep, "coding"), graphic designer for corporate (print, etc), game artist (2D, 3D) . Even tech support....But what I tried very first was to be a comic artist full time. Did not find the right gig, the right contract enough to make a living (ppl loving your art, that often just does not cut it, hehe). Might happen in the future, you never know, one adapts to things as they come. Is more of a rant, as is a content that ppl enjoy and appreciate highly, and would love to see more, enjoying more variety (more power to independent content, not just large industry productions, tho those are keeping the medium alive! No complaints, I said). Well, time will tell how things evolve for this HUGE form of art. It has in itself EVERYTHING to tell a story and communicate all sort of feelings, ideas... It is a very complex discipline to which one needs to dedicate a time, training, and focus, that most life situations wont allow. So, we'll see....
Short answer: not enough.
Like any creative job it's a lo of hours and not enough money. Sad how the jobs that are most important to the human body and soul earn so much less money than the ones that make people miserable.
sadly it takes hours and hours to create a single image by hand but it takes seconds to consume the media with your eyes. artists are totally undervalued and people take for granted what they perceive to be talent is actually years of studying and refinement of their craft
Depends on how you go about employment and the business side of it. Every career path is no different in that respect. Juggling time, costs of local living as well as what you receive in a return on personal investments across the entirety of choices in your life, not just being in one hyper focus of study, is just how more effective personal life management works overall.
Establishing an income both passively or by reputation takes time too, but it’s not impossible. It really is possible with art to be your own business person. Academia just doesn’t teach that, or foster an entrepreneurial spirit; neither a creative one.
I would say that in reality if people in general don’t develop really solid ways to be strongly economically independent beyond just the physical task of working a decent 9 to 5, or possibly where even earning an above average in statistics of income, then they’ll face similar if not the same exact problems of coming up close to short on bills every other month.
Learning how to handle money and wealth creation in and of itself is its own discipline, and there are comfortably successful artists out there. She also seems fairly happy with her life choices as well, and her surrounding environment - good for her, there’s no knocking that off either, especially if someone is more than less already comfortable in their own mindset.
Mulan 121 that's because a lot of creative types have to really be willing to compromise and take on any project. TBH a lot of freelancers oversell their abilities to their client's expectations. Most clients are happy with simplicity.
Thank you for posting this. It's totally true. The best jobs pay the least.
When you put it that way, isn't that how it should be!? XD If the satisfying and fulfilling jobs paid more, then there's be nobody to do the boring and soul-destroying jobs...
making 30k a year while still finishing up college is pretty impressive imo
Or 2022…
Normal people: "OMG this is horrible she makes no money!"
Other Cartoonists, well aware of the struggle: "Wow... she did it. So there IS hope of making money with my comics after alll..."
My husband was working on a comic for a major publisher (Dark Horse, DC, Marvel big) - he was doing pencils, inks, colouring, lettering, and design. They were going to give him $500 for the entire book. DO NOT ACCEPT THESE JOBS. Call people out. That is unacceptable.
Why only 500 ? I want to read your husband comics
Are you sure it wasn't 500 per page. That seems more realistic.
@@AlecArtComics This.
Happy to see Vice talk about cartoonists. Please talk about more of them.
Conor Hughes I hope not. Better other REAL sites, not leftists or lgbtists. I prefer the truth, not nonsense
Dwight Privilege, enjoy your imagination.
Pentru TV the actually good cartoonists are mostly leftists and "lgbtists" anyway
Zerkalo, depends on age and social class. Leftism is a form of mediated social relations between the people and the the state where diverse forms of revolt are methodically channeled into rights-based campaigns which can be appeased with piecemeal concessions such as the passage of new laws, the hiring/firing of invidiuals, or the establishment of new governmental bodies. It’s not good for morality. Early communists were young. The history repeats itself.
Pentru TV, same to you.
I was a freelance cartoonist in college and made $5 per comic strip I submitted to the paper.
sad
You were being downright scammed.
It all depends on how big the paper was and sometimes people take those cheap gigs to create a resume.
Vagabond Wastrel $5 is way too cheap for a cheap gig. Professional comic strip artists make several hundred per strip. A "cheap gig" would be $50 at the very least.
It makes sense but there's also taking into account how big the college is, whether it's a free or paid newspaper, and the amount of readership the paper gets. I'm 100% on $5 being a fucking ripoff but I can see the argument for the newspaper's reasoning (I would've gone at least $20 though)
Congrats to her, $60k/year is a great wage for an artist. Hopefully many other artists are able to find that level of success, even if it takes them longer than her surprisingly fast rise.
Amy Winehouse is alive and drawing cartoons in Minesota
she's much prettier than amy winehouse :-)
Beats going to rehab
Oh crap lolmap
you mean janice from friends?
A grand a month? I have to make a grand a week just to get through living in LA county
dso1509 she has like 6 roomates lol
I'm in a poor country and even I make more than that.
breakline lmao
a grand is enough for 4 months here lmao
I was about to say because here in relatively cheap NC, rent is $600 for a decent apartment.
Animators are just as important to! Without us you wouldn't have your big movies and Saturday morning cartoons! All artists work hard and are happy with what they do, and it'd be nice if people didn't see it as a weird thing that some of us chose our career path to be in that one. It's perfectly acceptable and a good one
I would love to see the comic and animation industry work together more similar to how anime and manga are connected!
@@AlecArtComics Well comics and Animation do have a similar structure. They're both telling a story through visual media. The obvious difference is that one is drawn and brought to life through animation, voice actors, music, etc., while the other is part of the world of literature. Now would I like to see more comics being adapted into animation, Yes please
The smartest thing to do is work for your self as a cartoonist, the publisher business is in its last year's thanks to the Internet.
I'm already 21, and still in college for graphic design and the world seems so daunting. This video scares me that my education was a waste more than it gives me hope tbh. Oh well, she seems so sweet and good for her for striving and achieving her goals to where she is now. Also her art looks beyond lovely too
How are you doing now?
@@boopdeeb9444 Haha I graduate on Saturday with my BFA, I started late and worked full time my first few years of college so it took a while to get here 😅
how's it going?
I hope the best for her she's really talented and I wish her a long and prosperous career in cartooning and illustration.
This is an amazing piece, thank you so much for making this.
I mean you should have done a documentary on manga artist. They are some of the hardest working people out there. The guy who made dragonball got like 1 hour of sleep each day in the process of making it.
she'd be making more money if she went under an alias and started drawing rule34 lol
She probably is.
I keep seeing "rule34" on everything I watch, what is that?
Lime Lives Matter are you new on the internet? basically, porn of anything you could think
It's a rule to not use a forbidden technique. With it you get better results, and it is faster and easier than traditonal techniques. BUT it is forbidden (because it is so fast/easy), so if you are a serious artist and it gets out that you are breaking r34, your fucked. Your contracts will drop and you won't get a lot of recognition anymore. Most artist who do still break r34 went into porn/erotica because that neach doesn't realy care that much about r34...
But what am i telling you all this. See for your self. Google "____ (your favorit anime/cartoon/game/etc) r34" ((for example "MLP r34" and you will see how superior it is to the traditional stuff ;)
It's a rule to not use a forbidden technique.
No, it's not.
Rule 34 simply states: If it exists, there is porn of it. If not, make it.
I actually wanna be a cartoonist
same, also I love your Varian profile picture!
Me too
I love how personal and in-depth this is. Good job.
Would love to see some more/longer videos about artists from Vice. This was incredibly informative.
She's very beautiful
oh my gosh I love Rosemary's work!!! I've been following her stuff for a while now and no one is harder working/deserves success
seems she even had carpian tunnel in one hand, or sth similar. Kudos for keeping at it, even so....
More of this please. It's so awesome learning about different creative industries.
Who isn’t a cartoonist look for a 20 year old hipster they are an artist in their mind
the weird about this video was earlier in the day my art teacher asking what was my next move from graduating after high school .... I told him I wanted to be a cartoonist because I make comics and we had a convo about what i should do and stuff ... its like life was trying to bring this topic back up again ...
Its been 3 years and what you doing now lmao im a senior i dont know what to be my career i want to make enough money to make a living 😔
@@zuezsz my best advice to you is to make a plan. Like literally write it down, im still figuring out myself how im trying to go from point A to point B, if you dont do that it might difficult on what ur gonna do, dont go with always go with the flow, make a concrete plan.
Great spotlight Vice. You guys definitely need to do more of these. Rosemary, great art work and keep going!
Seems like an anti cartoonist ad.
reality sucks
LOVED it!! Packing my bags and coming to Minneapolis right away, do you guys have room for one more cartoonist? haha
u make comic
?
I wish I can draw because I've been plotting storylines for my characters for years now.
Lime Lives Matter hire an animator
Lime Lives Matter or use a program
problem is: there are great writers (I'm an animator AND comic artist, but I believe the comment is referring to comics) and great drawing artists.... Just both in an almost starving situation. Writers can't pay, artists need to get ppl that can at least pay something. Even more, a quite regular source of income, as they - we- try to eat daily.
Guys love this want more episodes :)
1000 Dollars in a smaller decent city sounds nice. I think thats really enough to live if you are reasonable careful.
This was a great story! Really loved the shot comps and pacing as well. What cameras and lenses were used to create this piece?
With enough self-promotion and determination anyone can make a ton of money...but at what expense? I know established artists who can make upwards to 100K or more through Instagram, and then others who make no money off of it. She doesn't want to fall into the money trap. More money working for others = less time doing what you want. Balance is key.
Jo Rap What if what you do is for You AND for the others?
I imagine it is possible
Jo Rap not everyone can be instagram famous and make millions per post, you make it sound so easy
Drawing comic strips is an old industry
yet very vew people do it as their career choice today.
These guys are basically saving the art.
Love Vice's comic content
Really interesting. She comes across really well and likeable. Clearly someone with a passion for her craft/work and that's great to see.
“A grand a month...”
Damn, that doesn’t even cover the student loans. 😢
I pretty sure I heard she say "if I can make a grand a month I'm good" because she's talking about how little she spends. She actually makes 60k a year if she works fulltime all year
Does anyone know the song around 3:20? It sounds so dope.
I asked on the recent piece about voguing in NZ which used the same track in the intro, but that video got removed.
p.s. She fine.
Its so nice to see someone pursuing and succeeding in something they love. Good for her.
I finished a bachelor in Accounting and Finance. After school i said i dont know what to do but i wanted a family and i needed to support them. Yet i was drawing all day but mostly as a hobby, Now i m working 2 Jobs plus i m attending an art school. because its all about doing what you love. To all of you out there its gonna be hard you will get tired and disappointed but if you are doing what you love then you know and you will find a way to survive!
HI! I live in Minneapolis and pursuing an art degree. It is nice seeing an artist in my city making it in the industry.
I’m currently finishing my bachelors degree in photography and digital arts. I’m also going to pursue my masters degree in mental health counseling and psychiatry this is something else I am passionate about. A lot of the older girls in my school meaning us millennials realize that are fields are dying. Even though are school wants to pretend that it isn’t. This is why I’m still getting my bachelors degree in case photography comes back around in need but I’m not holding my breath. I’ve realized I’m so grateful that I have a back up plan in something else I also love. Because a lot of the generation Z of my school is in a fantasy of I only need one job and in the delusion that creative jobs aren’t dying out. While Us millennials are making plan A,BC and D.
Kind of interesting seeing the description: "Believe it or not, there are actually some people who make a living drawing comic books and graphic novels." Because I'm like.... um of COURSE??? But then I realized that this isn't an art channel (I've strayed from the artist side of TH-cam lmao) But seriously, there are actually a lot of people who make a living as a cartoonist/graphic novelist/mangaka. It's not that huge of a deal. Of course it is definitely a much, much, MUCH smaller niche than other jobs. I'm glad a channel like this gave a little spotlight to this field to show people the struggles of making a living from it.
Btw, I'm not making a living from this line of work, in case what I wrote came off like I am. It's my goal though!😅
Cartoon and drawing is my hobby. Software development is my job.
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Richard always is....always is
AvgJane19 4 no doubt
I hope every comment sections would have a reminder like you. Bless U.
Why are there so many pervy comments in here lmao
What, you mean the same folks who made "slutever?"
Welcome to the internet
Can you shut up please?
She's so my type. If she's hairy--the better.
I’ve been following Rosemary for years and I didn’t even know she had a Vice thing about her!!!! So proud!
This is awesome to see and hear how it is to be a cartoonist! Tough and great work being done by this girl. Inspirational :)
Im an artist in London, which is crazy expensive - but im a SELL OUT. i went for the steady pay-check at slots game company - which is popular amongst artists these days, and its growing in popularity on mobile devices. Its not a bad job at all, but its draining creatively. Mad respect for freelancers, especially ones that young.
Enjoy what you want to do we are only here one time on earth you have a talent not everyone can do or want to do I'm into art my self and as long as I don't overdo I don't have a problem with my body parts your doctor is right . Sound like a good doctor
I’m starting an illustration degree next September and I’m really nervous I won’t be able to support myself.
Funny that she's doing a book with Mariko Tamaki when her style so closely resembles Jillian Tamaki!
I would still be making them because I can't not. Wow true artist she is
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Everyone I see online is so amazing at art and still not making enough money. I'm so scared about the future. My future.
Hey, I'm going into the Comic Arts major at MCAD this coming fall!!!!
Congrats
Really honest and to the point. Thanks for the video
Wow this makes me sad. I want to make comics for a living but it sounds like such a struggle
Part II oh chapter 1 :)
“Bruno, Bruno!” the woman shouted desperately, but nothing could be heard from the sphere.
Curious, but also trying to remember as many details as possible for a future article, Viaceslav came near and took the woman by the shoulders, trying to pull her back.
The woman struggled weakly for a moment, turning her head toward him, and looking at him with tears in her eyes.
“My husband will kill me for having lost his dog. He told me not to take him, for I could not handle him, but I just wanted to take him out for a walk.”
She leaned her head on Viaceslav’s shoulder and cried even harder, while Piotr, who was behind her, took some close-ups of the cut end of the leash: the slice was as fine and clean as if it had been made by a scalpel.
Viaceslav turned his head and said to Piotr:
“Get close to the sphere and take some pictures of the place where the dog disappeared. Maybe there is a trace….”
Piotr shook his head.
“If the lady’s husband comes up, the dog will be our least problem.”
“What do you mean?” Viaceslav asked, confused.
His friend explained:
“The lady’s husband is Josef Sokolovski, a main pivot in the Polish rugby team. And he is famous for being extremely jealous.”
Recalling several violent incidents in which the rugby player had been involved, and which he had written about in their magazine, Viaceslav tried to get the woman away from him, but at that very moment the crowd parted like breaking ice. The ice breaker was Josef Sokolovski himself, who regarded the embracing pair with a cold eye, thinking he would deal with it later.
His priority was the dog, of which only a severed leash remained.
“Where is Bruno?” he asked in a deep, baritone voice.
When his wife pointed to the sphere, the man came near the black wall and shouted as loud as he could:
“Brunooooo!”
The windows of the buildings around them rattled and a few car alarms started, but there was no sound from the dog.
He looked at his wife again, his face black as coal, and stormed toward the sphere,, undoubtedly determined to destroy it.
“Sir,” Viaceslav spoke hesitantly, “please be careful. If you get too close, it could be dangerous.”
The main pivot Josef Sokolovski grinned sardonically and snapped:
“You’ll see what a dangerous situation is as soon as I get my dog back.”
He came closer to the sphere and shouted the dog’s name once again. He reached toward the black matte sphere, hesitated for a brief moment, and then plunged his hand into the pitch-blackness.
Nothing happened for a couple of moments, but then his hand got pulled in. The Polish national rugby team’s pivot turned a desperate look toward the people behind him, maybe the first such look in his life. He tried to speak, but he was quickly pulled inside the sphere before getting the chance to say anything.
“Josef,” his wife screamed frantically, and before Viaceslav could stop her, she pulled herself from his arms and ran toward the sphere.
She disappeared inside it before anyone could say or do anything.
“Get back!” the journalist shouted hoarsely, and after regaining his voice, he urged: “Take all the children and stand back! This sphere is dangerous!”
No one needed further instructions, because before their very eyes, a dog, a mountain of a man, and his wife had disappeared into its darkness without leaving the slightest trace.
The journalist took out his phone and dialed 911, his hands shaking with emotion.
“Hello,” he said. “My name is Viaceslav Barela. I work as a journalist for Fakt and I want to report that there is a bomb in the Krasinsky Square, right near the Karpackie tap house.”
He listened for a few moments and then confirmed:
“Yes, Ma’am, I used to work as a war reporter in Iraq, and I know what a bomb looks like.”
He listened for a few more moments and then said:
“Certainly, Ma’am, I shall make everyone get away from the bomb, and I’ll wait for the police to get here.”
He made signs toward people around him to step away, and in less than five minutes, the first police car pulled up beside him. A corpulent commissioner got out of the car and asked in a thunderous voice:
“Where is Viaceslav Barela?”
When the journalist raised his hand, he walked toward him and asked:
“And where is the bomb?”
When Viaceslav indicated the sphere, the commissioner burst out in annoyance.
“Does this look like a bomb to you? Who knows what a bloody chewing gum commercial this is, and you make the police come for nothing!”
“If I had said that in the square, there was a black sphere swallowing up people, would anyone have believed me? Or you would have sent an ambulance to take me to the madhouse?”
“A sphere swallowing people…” the commissioner burst out again, even more contemptuously. “I am thinking that you will end up with a serious fine.”
Piotr Lew walked over to the commissioner, played the recording in front of him from the very beginning, and after he watched it all the way through, he spoke compellingly:
“Commissioner, my colleague used to work as a war reporter in Iraq, so he can definitely tell a dangerous situation when he sees one. I’d say you’d better listen to him.”
Overwhelmed by the situation, the commissioner gestured to the journalist to take the floor.
“Commissioner, I believe that you should call in backup, plus a team with barricades, to keep everybody at a distance. Then I would call in the army, as it is very likely we may be dealing with a new type of gun and we don’t know how dangerous it is.”
Viaceslav let the commissioner think everything over for a moment or so, and then uttered another thought that had just crossed his mind:
“Just think about it. What if at some point this sphere feels like moving and starts absorbing everything in its path?”
The commissioner got chills at that thought and started shouting orders over his radio.
People who overheard the journalist thought that would be a very likely scenario, so despite their curiosity, they started to back away, putting a safe distance between themselves and the mysterious sphere.
This was inspirational, even if it’s difficult I’m glad to know it can be done.
I’m an art student, and I’m in my last semester of a four year degree, and I feel totally lost. I have no clue what to do or what to pursue in life after university. The worst part, is that I do not think the stuff I make is even good....
On a completely different note, I’ve never really had any pain in my hand, well not often. We’re trained to draw form the elbow. A lot of the time when drawing, my wrist and fingers are locked.
Do whatever and stick to it for several years. It doesn't matter if you're bad or good. Best of luck sweetie. Kiss kiss
1:52 ...Not only of her age...oldies (compared to her) like me, too. Even seasoned in the job... at least in the field of illustration, comic, design... I need to do a bit of all, specially for times when a field gets more dry..... And this while also able to live with a small budget....
It's nice to know that the job I want is out there. It's never been about the money for me. It's all about passion. The will to create, be inspired, and inspire.
that's the spirit. i didn't have it and gave up on being a painter.
Do u at least still paint as a hobby?
@@funlover4207 no, man. it is music that keeps me creatively busy nowadays.
VFX and digital artists/ sculptors lives are similar, at least my life is, making movies are in no way glorious. thank you for sharing.
why no link to her website..?
Not one mention of Charles Shultz when they talk about Minneapolis .Shultz lived there and he made it famous
If I could, I would start a company for illustration/graphic/comic/animation artists to do their work and get paid very well. There's an animation department which are grouped by the shows people are assigned in. Graphic artists are like the marketing team, they hype up shows by creating colorful posters of characters in scenes and can also receive commissions from other companies that want to be marketed that way. A comic department where anyone can make their pitch and the company can work as their brand/publisher. Something like that...
Follow your dream young blood. 👍🏾
Being able to earn a living as an Artist is truly a dream come true. I am very happy for her thats awesome
Their life is so cool, man
not really.... looks so in a video... Is hard as heck, believe me.
both very talented artists would love to see more of their work like post a link to their work wink wink.
It´s great that she has found what she loves and is making a profession of it.
well it depends. There are those who create a massive business out of their work, sadly part of it is about how well ya sell yourself and how much you sell yourself for.
As an artist you learn this the hard way.
I'd like to get into this but I don't have the patience for drawing the same characters over and over again. I do think my art style would definitely bring something to the table though... Lots of eyeballs, tounges and a mix of several types of shading.
"I'm in my early 20s and I make very little money, cause I chose a career pursuing art, so I have to work several jobs"
Wow you're soooooo unique, unlike all the other painters, musicians, performers and whathaveyou...
You are awesome and such an inspiration!
I was going to do Webtoon and make a comic skit about a relationship within a City in Auckland!
whose is the work at 0:38? I recognise it but can't quite put my finger on it...
I believe it's Carolyn Nowak.
0:16 I drew a picture of this girl two years before I knew she existed. I drew a cartoon character with the same face shape, hair, and earrings. I draw what I wish I could look like.
I've been an illustrator for almost 30 years and in and out of the animation business and all I can say is that if you really want to succeed you have to hustle and work your ass off! Theres no way around it. Whatever you do, do not work for free and especially don't work for "exposure". I've never had a landlord that let me pay the rent with "exposure".
One thing to keep in mind is that freelance work means much higher taxes (in the US).
When you’re an employee you only pay half the taxes, with your employer pays the other half. And while freelancing you will be paying both sides.
So, while making 60k is excellent, she will need to be paying over $10k in self employment taxes alone.
Something to factor into your pricing decisions!
Glad I'm not the only creative that regularly overbooks myself because the thirst for a livable wage is so real. But the flip on this is when I do something that isn't creative, my life is unbearably repressive and miserable. Corporate America is a machine that feeds the majority to produce excess in wealth for the few that is as obscene as it is untenable. Living in the abuse on the wrong side of machine is simply too much to bare if I can't do something I at least remotely enjoy.
All I can say is she's really lucky that she gets to do what she loves and enjoys. Their are probably millions of artists that will never get to work a job creating art for a living.
Damn this is terrifying. If you have to work 20 hours a day and not even get by what’s the point. This is so sad 🙁
Im an animator and I get worked to the bone to try to make ends meet every month. My job is 9 to 6 but it's not uncommon to work up til 12 am to make that deadline all while not being paid overtime.
Minnesota!
it's neat seeing fellow Minnesotans... MCAD REPRESENT!!
heck! i didnt know before this but one of my comic collections are illustrated by her! Gotham Academy x Lumberjanes mashup series! she's so talented!
My PASSION is art and illustration but this economy and society just does not allow creative people to live a sustainable life. I watched my mom and dad both struggle with 2 jobs each just to keep the light on. In 2018 it’s even harder now. I do not want my children to grow up like we had to. I want to have enough money to give them choices. It brakes my heart that art is so unappreciated in our society. So many artist underpaid or taken advantage of, while fat cats up at the top and 1%ers line their pockets doing bare minimum. Creative individuals have to work sometimes 3 jobs just so they can keep doing what makes their heart happy while their mounting student debt eats up any chance they had to open a savings. I’ve had to look far and wide and compromise a lot of my passions to find a career path that comes close to what I really wanted to do with my life. It should not be this way. It takes talent,dedication, discipline, creativity, patience, and heart to do what artists do.....who decided that the price tag on that wasn’t even enough to live off of?
A series by vice called _Tell Me Something I Know_
Sometimes I forget how good my job is. Things like this remind me.
Wow. She’s good. I love what she said at the end.
I wish I could do this. I'm making about $0 from art at the moment.
As a twin cities native I will tell you, cost of living relative to comfort of living is pretty damn good here
Good thing to know. May relocate to Minneapolis.
Making 30k a year part time while still in college is pretty good. To double that amount out of college is great! She is doing great at such a young age.
what is that screen and tool she is using to draw with?!!
That’s amazing how people can make it work on a budget :)
Thanks vice for all the legs in stockings shots I asked for. JESUS...