The Audis Quattro Drive works mechanically via a Trosendifferential. For this thing to operate as intended you need more resistance on the spinning wheels. But those Rollers weren't giving enough resistance. For Situations like this Audi relies on the traction control system. But as robbyjai pointed it out it was turned off. So this is far from any real World conditions...
when they tested BMW, did you notice the rear wheel was intentionally misligned (not parrell to the platform, therefore it created extra force. The guy stood infront of the rear wheel while testing to cover it up..
It appears the rear passenger side roller placement wasn't centered on the BMW, thereby giving BMW an advantage. I drive a 2012 BMW X3 and I love it, but this test is questionable.
It's real. The X-drive scheme has not a central differential, but a clutch system that constantly sends torque to both axles. It's always partially locked and this explains the reactivity of the system. The bad thing is that this affect the fuel economy...
@Zippersaurus1337 true, also i have audi S4 and a friend of mine has 335ix and both cars performed well last year in the winter but he slipped once and mine didnt
As ukfan4sure1 said: "Nothing new". I have my self tested quattro and the X-drive(I don't like mercedes at all) and X-drive is the better system. Quattrol still works great but sometimes fails while X-drive runs with no mistakes. :)
There is nothing unfair with the test. Different systems offer different methods. Each method has a capability and limitation. For example, some consider the xDrive system to be a little sluggish in reaction versus some other designs. However, it also very readily produces 4 wheel spin without playing around with the ABS system like other systems which promotes forward movement in conditions like this. There are tradeoffs in everything. Across many tests/reviews xDrive is consistently good
the funny thing is that bmw driver pushed the gas pedal hard to the floor but the audi and mercedes drivers were really careful with it. wow nice sales trick from bmw
Notice how the back right roller on the BMW test is positioned off center so the wheel gets more traction, the old guy sees that and steps in front of the camera to hide it.
@TheIrishDragoon Type in "xdrive in snow" and you will see real world results. This demos how well the awd system distributes power to wheels with traction.
@TheIrishDragoon If these vehicles cant do it well on a parking lot..what makes you think it can do better off road. Call it marketing stunt..but this is a clever way to show how each brands traction performs.
@paulsax42 This isn't to see which is the best 4x4 in the world. It's a test to show which luxury brand has the best continuos AWD. Furthermore BMW doesn't even begin to claim that they have a superior off road vehicle. Rather that the BMW does have a good continuos AWD system that out performs it's said competitors in the said market.
Id like to see them testing it by neutral judicators, and after that in real offroad, then we would see which one is really the best. Because you can't believe any of these.
There's nothing wrong with any of their AWD systems in my opinion. Although M-B's non-AMG awd setup could be better. This video is biased and set up by some arrogant BMW reps
I wouldn't worry about who's system performed better in a test like this. Its not like I'm going off road or driving in 5 feet of snow or mud. Any of the mini SUV's on this vid should be able to handle moderate snow. If the snow is too deep, keep your ass in your house, period. All of the brands presented have fantastic all wheel drive technology.
@TheIrishDragoon It's not a "stunt". Firstly, BMW doesn't even claim that it's X series is designed for off-roading. It serves it's purpose showing which AWD drive system is superior in dealing with and overcoming traction loss and wheel spin. Any who whatever hater will be hater, fan boys will be fan boys. Yadda, yadda, yadda.
lmwo did anyone notice the wheel position of the cars and how the merc and BMW slowly tracked to the solid edge of the roller. hence no roller there only Steele! presto traction! ! ! a hahhahaha people are blind
All three systems are crap in a test like this, notice how the front wheel of a BMW is steered of the rollers and hits the roller support while spinning 2:19 what causes it to take of.
This test is rigged. Watch the roller being put on BMW rear passenger wheel. It's placed offset to the side so that the ridge of the roller cage provides traction to that tire, i.e. the tire was not completely resting on the roller. And then the guy strategically blocks the view of that wheel, whereas for the Audi feed they not only show all wheels, but also change the camera angle to "document its demise to the fullest." Also as another user mentioned, we don't know if they messed with other cars' traction controls. This is obviously a BMW sponsored test, and they won't let their car lose. Great acting, but not good science. Shame on these people. I wonder if BMW feels VERY threatened by Audi's recent advances in design and style. Let the fully discerning minds not be swayed by internet "facts" such as this video.
A german program has already proven this wrong. If you use a lot if gas and have the Audi in normal mode it lose. But if you do a fair test you do as the BMW and put it in off-road mode and drive a bit more gently. The BMW and Audi systems are different but the Audi's is better off-road. Not a fair test.
BMW RULES! Of all German cars the most innovative tech always gets first installed on BMW cars.To love BMW u need 2 b a certain character,it's more of a lifestyle.You all get easily impressed by glossy interiors,I know your kind.Let's share proper respect.
Je suppose que ce concessionnaire veut faire sous-entendre à la clientèle de ce supermarché est que: même s'il n'y a qu'une roue qui a de l'adhérence, la BMW est propulsée par cette roue unique contrairement aux autres 4x4. Si c'est vrai, est-ce un bien? Non, car un véhicule dont 3 roues n'ont aucune adhérence ne doit pas être propulsé par une seule roue (excepté lorsque les roues du véhicule se trouvent dans des ornières solides capables leurs caps ou quelque chose qui les guide) .
I drive a 2011 Mercedes-benz Glk 350, and i have to say it works very well off road, on ice and muddy conditions. It is by far one of the best small suv's for the price, beating out the x3 for sure.
I am sorry but NO! you can watch videos on rollers made by group or random people,not companies selling BMW or Audi lol. Quattro Haldex works fine,just search for Tiguan rollers and see for yourself. what joke,trying to make Audi seem bad when the company itself invented AWD.
please tell me you guys all seen the rollers being moved for every car? isn't it weird that the man moving them is manipulating the macanism of those roller? looks like he blocked the roller for the bmw and unlocked them for the benz and audi... plus, i bet esp was not activated on the audi. the quattro system can send up to 100% of its power to one single wheel if needed. oh and this test was made by bmw haha.. this is a big reason why i hate bmw so much, they are always trying to shit on benz and audi in there advert. never you will see someone say his audi is bad in winter but i've seen alot of bmw drivers saying there xdrive bmw felt flumsy.
The audi should not have done that bad im pretty damn sure the esp was off. But it was sponsored by bmw so obvoliously the beamer is gonna win. Even though i do still love beamers :)
@SilverWolf25 because subaru is not a luxury car brand. BMW, Audi and Mercedes are. UGH I hate when people tries to compare BMW and Mercedes with volvo, kia, etc.
thats why i hate other brands...they are putting a non fair videos against others,this is a BMW x drive demonstration,off course theyll make the BMW to be better,let all of them get a very good drivers and let each of them to be a fan of one of the 3 marks ,and put them on SNOW,MUD and RAIN to see wich one will handle best.I prefer the 4matic,not because im a BENZ fan,just because its technology is better designed to handle in SNOW and others,ill be so laughing at the BMX fail,MB-best or nothing
i wonder if the q5 has limited slip in the front axle but not the rear axle, and what if the left front roller is positioned on the left rear wheel.
did the experiment initiate with all fuctions vehicles has ??
The Audis Quattro Drive works mechanically via a Trosendifferential. For this thing to operate as intended you need more resistance on the spinning wheels. But those Rollers weren't giving enough resistance. For Situations like this Audi relies on the traction control system. But as robbyjai pointed it out it was turned off. So this is far from any real World conditions...
the trick is the rollers in the bmw case were a little bit angled, so it basses easily
when they tested BMW, did you notice the rear wheel was intentionally misligned (not parrell to the platform, therefore it created extra force. The guy stood infront of the rear wheel while testing to cover it up..
every video it seems that the audi q5 has a very hard time
It appears the rear passenger side roller placement wasn't centered on the BMW, thereby giving BMW an advantage. I drive a 2012 BMW X3 and I love it, but this test is questionable.
does anybody see the pole the audi was about to backup into as the video cuts off?
It shows how a car can detect the traction loss, redistribute the power and get out of the situation. X3 is a clear winner.
It's real. The X-drive scheme has not a central differential, but a clutch system that constantly sends torque to both axles. It's always partially locked and this explains the reactivity of the system. The bad thing is that this affect the fuel economy...
i'm a proud owner of a 2010 Audi Q5 !
i much rather drive the Q5 than the GLK or X3
Notice the vehicle's tires sliding toward the edge of the roller and catching traction.
@Zippersaurus1337 true, also i have audi S4 and a friend of mine has 335ix and both cars performed well last year in the winter but he slipped once and mine didnt
It matters how much throttle is applied to each car... More throtte=more torque can be shifted...
As ukfan4sure1 said: "Nothing new". I have my self tested quattro and the X-drive(I don't like mercedes at all) and X-drive is the better system. Quattrol still works great but sometimes fails while X-drive runs with no mistakes. :)
There is nothing unfair with the test. Different systems offer different methods. Each method has a capability and limitation. For example, some consider the xDrive system to be a little sluggish in reaction versus some other designs. However, it also very readily produces 4 wheel spin without playing around with the ABS system like other systems which promotes forward movement in conditions like this. There are tradeoffs in everything. Across many tests/reviews xDrive is consistently good
the funny thing is that bmw driver pushed the gas pedal hard to the floor but the audi and mercedes drivers were really careful with it.
wow nice sales trick from bmw
Notice how the back right roller on the BMW test is positioned off center so the wheel gets more traction, the old guy sees that and steps in front of the camera to hide it.
@TheIrishDragoon Type in "xdrive in snow" and you will see real world results. This demos how well the awd system distributes power to wheels with traction.
The bmw won a test that was made by bmw to prove that bmw has a superior awd/4wd-system?
they are idiots
Makes sense right lmao
ahh you can see from a mile that's a BMW payed test. x-drive commercials everywhere
what does this test prove? What is it about?
On the first two he was moving the steering wheel left and right just before making the grip.
That's what the Ultimate Service is for!
In off road condittion is a very diffent story
if you live where ice, snow, sleet, mud happen, which happens in much of the US, this is not a rare phenomenon. This is actually important.
Lol @ haldex Quattro. Oh and im pretty sure they manipulated the system by turning off esc
Jon Esp any evidence?
In addition even a Haldex system would succeed in this test.
The fuel economy is more important than a one wheel traction situation that can happend
one time in life.
valentino furlan Yeah I'm sure whoever is buying an awd probably lives in shit weather
down on the right corner @ 2:00
where is the subaru?
saved the best for last
quattro ftw
yeah right!
hmm where is the magic quattro ?
5:18, he backs into the the light pole...
and quattro's?? where are you??
In the other video, quattro pass the three-wheel slip test with some wheel spin.
Quattro Tested - xDrive video busted
THAT IS WHAT BMW IS ALL ABOUT!!!!
Perfect comment by the deep-voiced man at the end: "So much for Quattro"
Respect
The f25 is good on snow. But the transfer cases are rubbish. I dont know how many i have changed over the years...
3:13 Boat shoes ftw!
You can see the poster on the right bottom corner they are promoting bmw of course they gonna make it look good
@TheIrishDragoon If these vehicles cant do it well on a parking lot..what makes you think it can do better off road. Call it marketing stunt..but this is a clever way to show how each brands traction performs.
@paulsax42 This isn't to see which is the best 4x4 in the world. It's a test to show which luxury brand has the best continuos AWD. Furthermore BMW doesn't even begin to claim that they have a superior off road vehicle. Rather that the BMW does have a good continuos AWD system that out performs it's said competitors in the said market.
Wouldn't be possible for the X3 to lose in a BMW marketing event.
Id like to see them testing it by neutral judicators, and after that in real offroad, then we would see which one is really the best. Because you can't believe any of these.
That's why we traded our Quattro for a Jeep!
BMW for life
Tune ESP on plesss
Waou bmw is best again on youtube
x3 best
what about taking those cars off road instead of that bmw test facility??
Ja, das stimmt tatsächlich.
Aber BMW hat einfach die besten Motoren ;-)
There's nothing wrong with any of their AWD systems in my opinion. Although M-B's non-AMG awd setup could be better. This video is biased and set up by some arrogant BMW reps
omg
audi is hilarious
I wouldn't worry about who's system performed better in a test like this. Its not like I'm going off road or driving in 5 feet of snow or mud. Any of the mini SUV's on this vid should be able to handle moderate snow. If the snow is too deep, keep your ass in your house, period. All of the brands presented have fantastic all wheel drive technology.
BMW、right back tire was not set at the regular point.
And after kill the ESC, try again !
@someonespecialisme Exactly. I am not against BMW. But this experiment is designed wrong.
The driver of the Audi backed into the light pole. Crack! Yes?
@TheIrishDragoon It's not a "stunt". Firstly, BMW doesn't even claim that it's X series is designed for off-roading. It serves it's purpose showing which AWD drive system is superior in dealing with and overcoming traction loss and wheel spin. Any who whatever hater will be hater, fan boys will be fan boys. Yadda, yadda, yadda.
rear roller on bmw test seems to be not.straight
Mitica x3
I wonder how embarrassed the BMW representatives would be if you told them to turn on the ESP and then try it. I love BMW but just a thought
BMW X3 RULES
audi q7 v12 is good too
Good thing this still doesn't make the BMW even come close to the Audi
Where is your x-drive mister BMW ?? :D Its real life not rollers
Range Rover Evoque vs Q3 og X1 Autofil
Look closly on the bmw right rear wheel its not in the hole
lmwo did anyone notice the wheel position of the cars and how the merc and BMW slowly tracked to the solid edge of the roller. hence no roller there only Steele! presto traction! ! ! a hahhahaha people are blind
BMW is always at least one step ahead of those guys in technology .Great car !!!
Why don't they put a Subaru in any of these kind of tests?
LET'S TEST SNOWBLOWERS AND WIN BY FORGETTING TO SWITCH THE OPPONENT'S ON
All three systems are crap in a test like this, notice how the front wheel of a BMW is steered of the rollers and hits the roller support while spinning 2:19 what causes it to take of.
BMW xdrive on ylivoimainen
turn on the ESP...
Grande bmw e anche Mercedes
A Suzuki Jimny would flip'em all.
I want to see all of them compared to a Subaru... Not necessary a forester or a tribeca. An Impreza 1.5 would do!!!!
This test is rigged. Watch the roller being put on BMW rear passenger wheel. It's placed offset to the side so that the ridge of the roller cage provides traction to that tire, i.e. the tire was not completely resting on the roller. And then the guy strategically blocks the view of that wheel, whereas for the Audi feed they not only show all wheels, but also change the camera angle to "document its demise to the fullest." Also as another user mentioned, we don't know if they messed with other cars' traction controls. This is obviously a BMW sponsored test, and they won't let their car lose.
Great acting, but not good science. Shame on these people. I wonder if BMW feels VERY threatened by Audi's recent advances in design and style.
Let the fully discerning minds not be swayed by internet "facts" such as this video.
A german program has already proven this wrong. If you use a lot if gas and have the Audi in normal mode it lose. But if you do a fair test you do as the BMW and put it in off-road mode and drive a bit more gently.
The BMW and Audi systems are different but the Audi's is better off-road. Not a fair test.
the X3 is the worst car out of the bunch
BMW RULES! Of all German cars the most innovative tech always gets first installed on BMW cars.To love BMW u need 2 b a certain character,it's more of a lifestyle.You all get easily impressed by glossy interiors,I know your kind.Let's share proper respect.
Je suppose que ce concessionnaire veut faire sous-entendre à la clientèle de ce supermarché est que: même s'il n'y a qu'une roue qui a de l'adhérence, la BMW est propulsée par cette roue unique contrairement aux autres 4x4.
Si c'est vrai, est-ce un bien?
Non, car un véhicule dont 3 roues n'ont aucune adhérence ne doit pas être propulsé par une seule roue (excepté lorsque les roues du véhicule se trouvent dans des ornières solides capables leurs caps ou quelque chose qui les guide) .
I drive a 2011 Mercedes-benz Glk 350, and i have to say it works very well off road, on ice and muddy conditions. It is by far one of the best small suv's for the price, beating out the x3 for sure.
BMW is the best :)
1:46 you can clearly see how this ramp roller isnt properly positioned, allowing the wheel to get more traction...bmw rigged this test
Funny that a bmw is winning a bmw made test
Bring out a SUBARU's. If you dare to!
it's actually spelled bimmer.
I am sorry but NO! you can watch videos on rollers made by group or random people,not companies selling BMW or Audi lol.
Quattro Haldex works fine,just search for Tiguan rollers and see for yourself. what joke,trying to make Audi seem bad when the company itself invented AWD.
please tell me you guys all seen the rollers being moved for every car? isn't it weird that the man moving them is manipulating the macanism of those roller? looks like he blocked the roller for the bmw and unlocked them for the benz and audi... plus, i bet esp was not activated on the audi. the quattro system can send up to 100% of its power to one single wheel if needed. oh and this test was made by bmw haha..
this is a big reason why i hate bmw so much, they are always trying to shit on benz and audi in there advert. never you will see someone say his audi is bad in winter but i've seen alot of bmw drivers saying there xdrive bmw felt flumsy.
The audi should not have done that bad im pretty damn sure the esp was off. But it was sponsored by bmw so obvoliously the beamer is gonna win. Even though i do still love beamers :)
@SilverWolf25 because subaru is not a luxury car brand. BMW, Audi and Mercedes are. UGH I hate when people tries to compare BMW and Mercedes with volvo, kia, etc.
this q5 doesn't ahve the diff in the back thats why. 1500 option.
Sempre BMW ❤❤
The test was not fair for the Audi, the driver in the Audi was pressing the gas much more than the BMW. The Audi has a far better control system.
haha wow bmw with esp on... turn esp on in the audi and make the sales rep cry..
haha dont forgett unimog its Mercedes best off road cars
thats why i hate other brands...they are putting a non fair videos against others,this is a BMW x drive demonstration,off course theyll make the BMW to be better,let all of them get a very good drivers and let each of them to be a fan of one of the 3 marks ,and put them on SNOW,MUD and RAIN to see wich one will handle best.I prefer the 4matic,not because im a BENZ fan,just because its technology is better designed to handle in SNOW and others,ill be so laughing at the BMX fail,MB-best or nothing
It's a shame that my 4X4 Toyota will drive off the rollers.......in two wheel drive with an electric locking rear diff.