I have found that the cost of quote is no guide to the quality of install. A bad installer can pad a quote to increase profit, whilst doing a poor job. Only by informing yourself and asking questions about what will be done, do you get an indication of what will be done for the quote. Comparing materials specified in each quote is also necessary.
Good Job!! If the holster holder didnt cover up the old Rolec holes then seeing that you collected brick dust when drilling new hold in a dust pan then you got put some silicone in the old exposed holes and then apply the collected brick dust to stick to the clear siliocne👍
I'm no EV specialist, nor engineer, but in all instances of data cabling and running power/data in server rooms cat5 (which I assume is the same cat5 you reference) is never to be run alongside power. We run time and data sensitive datacentres and not a simple EV charger, but the principle I think is the same. If I am wrong and the cable is not network cat5, shoot me!
depends on the Cat5 being protected from EMI by using shielding and usually you would put it 5cm apart. Also depends on the standards of the power cables and earth grounding.
In the example from the video, the twisted pair of signal wires connects a 'current transformer, that makes an analogue signal/current with a very low source impedance, and the other end has an input with a low input impedance. That makes the circuit have a good high ratio between the wanted signal and unwanted noise, as the coupling from the nearby mains wires onto the signal wire pairs will be low, relative to the output from the current transformer. The principles for coupling between mains wire and network cables is the same, yes, but the threshold for when the coupling becomes too much, depends on the signals. And the risk of failures is harder to remedy if the installation has a 1000 ethernet cables, than just 1 for a charge point. So it makes sense to be more cautious in data centers by placing power and signal separated by an air gap or a steel plate.
I agree with you on everything in this video except one thing. I wouldnt use an SWA gland because it counts as an exposed conductive part. Because the PEN protection is now built into the charger itself you can still have an issue if the neutral is lost through to Earth despite the case of the charger being class 2. I use compression glands, tightened, with the armourings earthed at supply side but insulated within the charger.
I had the same charger ( ohme home pro ) installed recently by Octopus. I was surprised to say the least when the van turned up and a young girl ( very earky 20's) got out. She stood about 5'2 ! she was lovely and did an absolutely brilliant job of installation . Explained everything to me. I paid £975 inc installation cost.
A great aesthetic tip for ohme pro series is to install the holster for charging above the charger so customer can wrap cable around keeps it nice and neat
Good job. Eddies of course with a metal box on AC. So the prewired flex is to be terminated into an exturnal double pole isolator as the charger is classed as fixed equipment being over 3Kw hence the lenth.. This is just like an AC unit, oven, shower, induction hob.... We have to do this in the EU anyways.
Absolutely shocking! Great work on the new charger though! I do occasionally install EV chargers don’t know how people are doing 2-3 day I easily spend most of day on some
Thank you! Yeah 2/3 installs in a day has shortcuts written all over them. I’m a one a day and do a small job after kinda guy, take the time and do a good job 👍👍
Honestly how long Will all those plastic components last in In a sunny environment? Also with the wire It's like running an extension cord along your house , should have buried it in PVC. No matter what a person charges there has to be a better way to install this unit.
Just for Info. Page 8 of product manual/install instructions say you can shorten the supply cable providing you use ferrules. No need to worry about affecting warranty.
Unfortunately the price you pay has no bearing on the quality of the install. Cheap does not necessarily mean bad and expensive does not necessarily mean good. Go with a spark or company with great word of mouth reputation, and great "Trustpilot" etc feedback,, and of course ask them to itemise the details of the install. Then you have a chance of getting a decent job.
You can just as easily get expensive muppets as cheap muppets. It's a mystery how to determine quality tradesmen. Price is definitely not the criteria.
I love the Henley block covering up the polarity sticker and the missing seals, the last guy must’ve been a quality spark, the ip breaches show it! At least u could pull the fuse guilt free 😜🤣😭
The problem with saying go cheap and get burnt really doesnt work in the real world, because plenty of people go expensive and still get burned but its even worse cos it cost a fortune!
Someones pulled the main cutout to install those meter tails in the new DB.. 🙂 oh an Eddy currents where the tails go in to the old CU in a separate fashion.
A very enjoyable vlog and nice to see a professional install, safe and pleasing to the eyes. You did your nulling on the pivoted jaw of one of your clips by the way, you naughty man. 😜
We had the same charger fitted FOA on the motorbility scheme. I assumed the junction box so clos to the charger was ,so in the future the " old outdated " charger could be changed, while the cable run from the consumer unit (the meat of the job) can be left alone?
Nice to see some good quality install unlike the last one. Love your work ethic and unlike some channels you didn’t say it was a dodgy DIYer doing it. 😂
Not to pick bones 😂 but i do ev installs , firstly you could do a neater job inside your fuseboard install its all abit meh and secondly the ohme charger connects to the bracket with three screws not one, the top one is in purely so the bracket does not fall out , im sure you put the others in when you found them in the screw packs in the box. Apart from that it was an ok install .
getting to be a bit of a concern where EV charging points are appearing on houses where there is no parking and cables are being trailed across pavements etc. surely the electrician doing the job should be advising on these matters
Great video, but tell me when you do your live testing do you test at the charger plug through the EV adapter? when doing a loop test on No trip will it allow you to test without tripping the internal RCD. Thanks
We always install a second CU when installing an EV charge point, for several reasons, One, if the customer has an older style non complaint board with no SPD etc, its cheaper to install a smaller secondary unit with everything in to bring the EV charge point install up to current regs, Two, if at some point in the future the customer decides on Solar PV with battery storage, the EV charge point is already segregated at the supply end so will not drain the ESS storage system when the car is plugged in providing the CT clamps are in the correct places.
@@bas5946thank you to you for answering questions like this, and to Adam for the videos. Just planning an EV purchase and learning so much about what to expect & look out for in the charger install here.
I had a pretty simple install and the cheapest quote I got was £500. Took him under 2 hours to do. I just feel that’s a bit overpriced for something I could have done myself
Great install buddy and quality work from you. Unfortunately alot if poor install work and 😢its becoming difficult to get a decebt price for our skills and workmanship. Being a plasterer looks more interesting 🤔 😂 at this moment
@sotaelectrical 100% buddy I agree with you and sorry to sound abit negative:( I think the best way is focused in niche electrical sectors and winning government tenders. Feel the domestic market now was a good cash business for us sparkies but the process of administration and the prices of parts to say comply with a fusebaord change is making it difficult. Used to do a fuseboard change for 550 and get the parts for 150 so make a very good profit. Now issue is you need say a 14 way board and has to be surge and tails 25mm and rcbo or God forbid arc fault then you talking £1000 fuseboard change and people rarely say yes to that kind of quote. Industrial is good but again alot are tied up with big electrical players. Honestly think needs to be more regulated and more training and old skool apprenticeship again
@1:23 To be fair - the plastic rubbish bag used to collect the junk, is more valuable than that entire installation.... The new stuff.... Hmmm... Nice.
We’ve got 28 Ohme chargers at our work depot for vehicles and I will say one thing; those whisker boxes look a little cack but bearable when there’s only one, when you have a couple of dozen of them, it hurts the soul! Will also add that we’ve had quite a few charger failures in the last few months, but it is the preferred supplier of our facilities management so I think we are stuck with them being perpetually replaced until they they become financially unviable. At least our spark takes pride in his work (unlike the cretin whose work you had to undo on this job!), so at least they have a fighting chance.
is the purpose of the swa being in a stuffing gland not to provide separation between the PME system that the swa will be earthed on and the TT system that the EV charger will be earthed on?
It does make me laugh if it’s cheap it’s no good rubbish some workers are just not greedy and give a fair price but are hard to find especially if they’re young there out for the kill
You should use the white/grey nails for the Spit. Theyre a cleaner finish as its meant to sheer off the white leaving just a flush nail. As opposed to the orange ones
Depends on the manufacturer. For example, Velux windows allow their moulded fly leads to be cut without invalidating the warranty of the electric windows
Cost is no indication of quality. I've seen jobs like that which are nowhere near the cheapest. Prices are gouged by stating exactly the same, "we charge more because we do a better job with higher quality" is a typical line everybody uses. Charging points are far too expensive to install, out of the question for the average household which is another reason why EVs sales are stagnant. Someone will come along with a much better way.
Thinking outside the box. One attribute to the costs are that only a qualified sparky can make all connections, on this video there are many connections to make, options for cables, the quality of the various junction boxes - all opportunities to scrimp or screw it up. If Elon came along he'd suggest that you come up with a smart way to measure the job up, then custom manufacture the whole thing in a factory with quality control and testing into hermetically sealed blocks to include everything right back to the meter connection. The install can then be largely carried out by a nonce pulling the cable through and screwing it to the wall with only the final connection requiring someone sprinkled with pixie dust. I can only find 33 issues to solve with this approach. It just needs a kickstarter to raise 10 million in investment and then I can do a runner with that (like they all do).
Well done for taking the shield data cable outside the consumer before joining. Think it looks so much better too 👍. Also well done for admitting you jumped the gun on the SWA. Although you are still right it was Rough. 😮
The issue with getting someone in to do trades work is that however much you pay you're never immune from getting ripped off. At least if you end up with a shit job you can console yourself that at least you didn't pay top whack for it. (Am I cynical, probably. But that's from paying over the odds for crap work in the past. I tend to do most things myself nowadays - wouldn't take on an EVC though, I'm not daft).
Couldn't agree more. I think the next time I employ someone not only will I get quotes but I'll also get independent references with pictures and video ideally! In fact I think I'll make sure I get someone with a TH-cam channel so I can see them at work first😂
What makita drill you getting through? I have the dh243 and its been used and abused for years , core drill holes chase out with it n it still going strong … frost / cold over winters killed a few batts tho
These videos generate me smile always. UK is somewhere in shorly after war time with electric distribution on end customers. One of last countries where is not 3 face in every property, flat etc. These chargers delivery such a small power to charge electric vehicles. With 3 face is completly different story.
Well what and how do you suggest doing about it then and are you happy to pay for it? Sure - if we knew now what we didn't know then we would have done this differently. I'm sure there are things we are doing now which in 50 years time will seem insane. I'm sure I install stuff which I think are future proofed in my house which in 10 years are made irrelevant. The facts are simple in most cases. Only a single phase was brought in underground to each property from the street. to change that for umpteen millions properties now would be horrendously expensive. ...and it's spelt 3 phase.
On the other hand, UK homes have been getting 100A hookups for years, haven’t they? The standard here in NL is either 1x 35A (older homes) or 3x25A, and if you want anything heavier (you might with a heat pump and EV charger), your fixed fee jumps from €200 a year to €800.
Don't use the whiska box as they are too big. Get an ip adaptable box from the merchants. Just drill 2 25mm stuffers on the bottom and bobs your auntie
Excellent video. We need you in every corner of the country and people wouldn't get cowboys. Wish you lived my way. Notice you're not using the dust collector any more. Did the pan get jealous. 😅 Have a great weekend.
Cutting the cable does not void the warranty I spoke to my Ohme rep, it’s only if you don’t ferrule the cable ends. They also put in a recent newsletter not to use screw terminals for the JB.
I saw you slagging of the work that was done by a an unqualified diy fitted on a sunday homeowner you vetted about important it is to use certified fitters ,we didnt see you digging a 1.30 meter deep trench across the yard to bury the armoured 13amp flex
Customer buys 100k EV can’t pay a couple hundred bucks for a legit circuit installation 🤦♂️ Or the unlucky ppl who have the breaker box so far away form garage 🤷♂️ 😅
Well to put it more like reality.......customer gets an EV on company lease/HP paying £350-£450 a month, doesn't want to pay £1000-£1500 up front for expensive charger install.
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I have found that the cost of quote is no guide to the quality of install. A bad installer can pad a quote to increase profit, whilst doing a poor job. Only by informing yourself and asking questions about what will be done, do you get an indication of what will be done for the quote. Comparing materials specified in each quote is also necessary.
absolutely bang on. price is not always the best indicator
I have to agree. My expensive German kitchen installed by an expensive fitter is now looking cheap a year later.
Wrong placement of punctuation. I would not like to see the installs.
Sie niew stuff is shisse@@phphph6022
Completely agree.
Good Job!! If the holster holder didnt cover up the old Rolec holes then seeing that you collected brick dust when drilling new hold in a dust pan then you got put some silicone in the old exposed holes and then apply the collected brick dust to stick to the clear siliocne👍
That’s exactly what I do 👍👍
Brilliant explanation on why you never skimp on electrical installs and a high quality finish, pleasure to watch 👍🤩
Thank you 🙏👍👊
I'm no EV specialist, nor engineer, but in all instances of data cabling and running power/data in server rooms cat5 (which I assume is the same cat5 you reference) is never to be run alongside power. We run time and data sensitive datacentres and not a simple EV charger, but the principle I think is the same. If I am wrong and the cable is not network cat5, shoot me!
depends on the Cat5 being protected from EMI by using shielding and usually you would put it 5cm apart. Also depends on the standards of the power cables and earth grounding.
I also believe most of these chargers just use the “data” cable for a rs485 connection anyway (using one of the twisted pairs).
Depends on the application. It is similar to ‘Turn off’ your phones on the airplane type precaution.
In the example from the video, the twisted pair of signal wires connects a 'current transformer, that makes an analogue signal/current with a very low source impedance, and the other end has an input with a low input impedance. That makes the circuit have a good high ratio between the wanted signal and unwanted noise, as the coupling from the nearby mains wires onto the signal wire pairs will be low, relative to the output from the current transformer.
The principles for coupling between mains wire and network cables is the same, yes, but the threshold for when the coupling becomes too much, depends on the signals. And the risk of failures is harder to remedy if the installation has a 1000 ethernet cables, than just 1 for a charge point. So it makes sense to be more cautious in data centers by placing power and signal separated by an air gap or a steel plate.
I agree with you on everything in this video except one thing. I wouldnt use an SWA gland because it counts as an exposed conductive part. Because the PEN protection is now built into the charger itself you can still have an issue if the neutral is lost through to Earth despite the case of the charger being class 2. I use compression glands, tightened, with the armourings earthed at supply side but insulated within the charger.
That’s fair enough, thank you for commenting and watching my video 👍👍
I had the same charger ( ohme home pro ) installed recently by Octopus.
I was surprised to say the least when the van turned up and a young girl ( very earky 20's) got out. She stood about 5'2 ! she was lovely and did an absolutely brilliant job of installation . Explained everything to me.
I paid £975 inc installation cost.
No one can compete with octopus on cost
Yes, but what was wrong with it? Why was it not working? Everything you mentioned? There’s nothing to do with it not working
Good ol’ eddy current making an appearance!!
Yep he’s there!!
Ah yes, eddy currents increasing the temperature of the metal by 1 degree. 😂
@@Woodkin007oh the millions of old buildings lost to fire because of these Eddie currents we didn’t know about..,,,Oh there’s none.
A great aesthetic tip for ohme pro series is to install the holster for charging above the charger so customer can wrap cable around keeps it nice and neat
Good job. Eddies of course with a metal box on AC. So the prewired flex is to be terminated into an exturnal double pole isolator as the charger is classed as fixed equipment being over 3Kw hence the lenth.. This is just like an AC unit, oven, shower, induction hob.... We have to do this in the EU anyways.
Absolutely shocking! Great work on the new charger though! I do occasionally install EV chargers don’t know how people are doing 2-3 day I easily spend most of day on some
Thank you! Yeah 2/3 installs in a day has shortcuts written all over them. I’m a one a day and do a small job after kinda guy, take the time and do a good job 👍👍
Honestly how long Will all those plastic components last in In a sunny environment? Also with the wire It's like running an extension cord along your house , should have buried it in PVC. No matter what a person charges there has to be a better way to install this unit.
when I had my Ohme installed I took three quotes, looked at the reviews and went for the most expensive on, been in for 6 months now and no issues
Just for Info. Page 8 of product manual/install instructions say you can shorten the supply cable providing you use ferrules. No need to worry about affecting warranty.
Good info thanks
Unfortunately the price you pay has no bearing on the quality of the install. Cheap does not necessarily mean bad and expensive does not necessarily mean good. Go with a spark or company with great word of mouth reputation, and great "Trustpilot" etc feedback,, and of course ask them to itemise the details of the install. Then you have a chance of getting a decent job.
Yeah sometimes this is the case and I agree with your thinking process with choosing a contractor 👍👍
The steel in a modern consumer unit is simply not thick enough for eddy currents to be an issue
You can just as easily get expensive muppets as cheap muppets. It's a mystery how to determine quality tradesmen. Price is definitely not the criteria.
I love the Henley block covering up the polarity sticker and the missing seals, the last guy must’ve been a quality spark, the ip breaches show it! At least u could pull the fuse guilt free 😜🤣😭
Pull the fuse? I don’t know what you mean 🤣
The problem with saying go cheap and get burnt really doesnt work in the real world, because plenty of people go expensive and still get burned but its even worse cos it cost a fortune!
Someones pulled the main cutout to install those meter tails in the new DB.. 🙂 oh an Eddy currents where the tails go in to the old CU in a separate fashion.
A very enjoyable vlog and nice to see a professional install, safe and pleasing to the eyes. You did your nulling on the pivoted jaw of one of your clips by the way, you naughty man. 😜
Thank you! Such a rebel ay 🤣
The added bonus of all that scrap. Nice install
Thank you 👍
Thats rough and dangerous. Love your passion Sota.
Thank you
Can you use an E V ultra cable outside if you don't have internet to connect your E V charger. Do you need c t monitoring.
We had the same charger fitted FOA on the motorbility scheme.
I assumed the junction box so clos to the charger was ,so in the future the " old outdated " charger could be changed, while the cable run from the consumer unit (the meat of the job) can be left alone?
If we use a joint box of class 2 construction it’s also important to glad it correctly so the terminated ends can’t move. 👍
I’ve seen at least one installer on an ohmie using unsecured wagos in inappropriate box to join it ! 🥶😬 Not a clue !!
"Data Boy" here. You would put most of my colleagues to shame!
Love it
Where’s the torque driver for connecting the consumer unit
Rough dressing also I wouldn't leave a DB in that state
Great video Adam. EVERYTHING you do is of excellent quality 👍
Thank you sir
Nice to see some good quality install unlike the last one. Love your work ethic and unlike some channels you didn’t say it was a dodgy DIYer doing it. 😂
Thank you mate 👍👍
What is a sensible quote on this job, I’ve had 1 quote and it’s a lot higher than expected!
What was the figure you were given and I will let you know if it’s high or not
@@sotaelectrical 2900
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@@sotaelectrical quote was 2900 my comment seems to keep being removed though
If you fancy some work in London also feel free to quote me for an install.
Great video always enjoy watching yours. How did you connect the new board into the existing system.
Thank you, new tails to board mate
Hi from Sydney Australian. Love your work, doing well. Keep it up mate.
Thank you mate!! 👍👍👍
I much preferred the buried cable. More wall-warts and visible cables strapped to the front of the house. No thank you!
It wasn’t buried to any acceptable depth
@@sotaelectrical so bury it deeper! as you implied you aren't the cheapest.
Not to pick bones 😂 but i do ev installs , firstly you could do a neater job inside your fuseboard install its all abit meh and secondly the ohme charger connects to the bracket with three screws not one, the top one is in purely so the bracket does not fall out , im sure you put the others in when you found them in the screw packs in the box. Apart from that it was an ok install .
Well said😊 as electrician I do neat job in fuse box as well
Love it, here he is slamming others when he could have done a better job himself....Hypocrite!
getting to be a bit of a concern where EV charging points are appearing on houses where there is no parking and cables are being trailed across pavements etc. surely the electrician doing the job should be advising on these matters
Nice job.. not in Love with the visible cable running along the front door sill. Could the charger not be on the other side of the front door?
Thank you, that’s just where they wanted it 👍
Great video, but tell me when you do your live testing do you test at the charger plug through the EV adapter? when doing a loop test on No trip will it allow you to test without tripping the internal RCD. Thanks
4:45 Why did you install a second Consumer Unit? The other one didn't look full.
We always install a second CU when installing an EV charge point, for several reasons, One, if the customer has an older style non complaint board with no SPD etc, its cheaper to install a smaller secondary unit with everything in to bring the EV charge point install up to current regs, Two, if at some point in the future the customer decides on Solar PV with battery storage, the EV charge point is already segregated at the supply end so will not drain the ESS storage system when the car is plugged in providing the CT clamps are in the correct places.
@@bas5946thank you to you for answering questions like this, and to Adam for the videos. Just planning an EV purchase and learning so much about what to expect & look out for in the charger install here.
I had a pretty simple install and the cheapest quote I got was £500. Took him under 2 hours to do. I just feel that’s a bit overpriced for something I could have done myself
You never got an EV charger supplied and installed for 500
@@sotaelectrical Installation only. The ohme was £300 on ebay
How did you isolate the supply to remove old and install new
It’s a submain board mate
Great install buddy and quality work from you. Unfortunately alot if poor install work and 😢its becoming difficult to get a decebt price for our skills and workmanship.
Being a plasterer looks more interesting 🤔 😂 at this moment
Thank you mate, appreciate your comments, yes I agree, personally I feel we are a very under valued trade for all the knowledge and skill we require
@sotaelectrical 100% buddy I agree with you and sorry to sound abit negative:(
I think the best way is focused in niche electrical sectors and winning government tenders.
Feel the domestic market now was a good cash business for us sparkies but the process of administration and the prices of parts to say comply with a fusebaord change is making it difficult.
Used to do a fuseboard change for 550 and get the parts for 150 so make a very good profit.
Now issue is you need say a 14 way board and has to be surge and tails 25mm and rcbo or God forbid arc fault then you talking £1000 fuseboard change and people rarely say yes to that kind of quote.
Industrial is good but again alot are tied up with big electrical players.
Honestly think needs to be more regulated and more training and old skool apprenticeship again
Another splendid install. The EV trade is much like the PV trade, choc full of cowboys.
Thank you
I haven't heard the price for this job? How much did you charge without a charger? Thanks
@1:23 To be fair - the plastic rubbish bag used to collect the junk, is more valuable than that entire installation.... The new stuff.... Hmmm... Nice.
What was the reason for scorning the original CU stuffing glands carrying the meter tails etc?
Check out the other comments 👍👍
Great install mate! I need that angled drill bit I have this problem all the time 😂
You don’t even see it coming until it’s too late 🤣
We’ve got 28 Ohme chargers at our work depot for vehicles and I will say one thing; those whisker boxes look a little cack but bearable when there’s only one, when you have a couple of dozen of them, it hurts the soul!
Will also add that we’ve had quite a few charger failures in the last few months, but it is the preferred supplier of our facilities management so I think we are stuck with them being perpetually replaced until they they become financially unviable. At least our spark takes pride in his work (unlike the cretin whose work you had to undo on this job!), so at least they have a fighting chance.
Looks good, but, why not bury the cable again close to the house wall? I'm not a fan of cables clipped to the outside of houses.
Because of cost
If you are going to bury the cable then it has to be done properly and at depth not just an inch or two below the surface.
is the purpose of the swa being in a stuffing gland not to provide separation between the PME system that the swa will be earthed on and the TT system that the EV charger will be earthed on?
just watched further on hahaha
🤣🤣
What’s the track playing from 4 minutes in?!
It does make me laugh if it’s cheap it’s no good rubbish some workers are just not greedy and give a fair price but are hard to find especially if they’re young there out for the kill
Another top video mate, the best out there 🔥🔥🔥
Jamie the legend!!!
Wish you covered the west midlands area! Do you know any top quality installers in this area you could recommend please?
I don’t I’m afraid, I’m trying to build a network for this exact purpose
You should use the white/grey nails for the Spit. Theyre a cleaner finish as its meant to sheer off the white leaving just a flush nail. As opposed to the orange ones
Ok il give them a go 👍
Worth noting that cutting the moulded plug on washing machines, fridges etc will also invalidate the warranty. Checked this with major manufacturers.
Great info to share!!
If installed by a legally competent electrician, it doesnt invalidate the warranty.
Depends on the manufacturer. For example, Velux windows allow their moulded fly leads to be cut without invalidating the warranty of the electric windows
@@Woodkin007”legally competent”? 🤔
It is not legal for them to deny warranty coverage for things like that which are not the cause of a fault
Absolutely shocking! What tuna melts did this job originally! 😂
Cost is no indication of quality. I've seen jobs like that which are nowhere near the cheapest. Prices are gouged by stating exactly the same, "we charge more because we do a better job with higher quality" is a typical line everybody uses. Charging points are far too expensive to install, out of the question for the average household which is another reason why EVs sales are stagnant. Someone will come along with a much better way.
Thinking outside the box. One attribute to the costs are that only a qualified sparky can make all connections, on this video there are many connections to make, options for cables, the quality of the various junction boxes - all opportunities to scrimp or screw it up. If Elon came along he'd suggest that you come up with a smart way to measure the job up, then custom manufacture the whole thing in a factory with quality control and testing into hermetically sealed blocks to include everything right back to the meter connection. The install can then be largely carried out by a nonce pulling the cable through and screwing it to the wall with only the final connection requiring someone sprinkled with pixie dust. I can only find 33 issues to solve with this approach. It just needs a kickstarter to raise 10 million in investment and then I can do a runner with that (like they all do).
Do these home's have PME fault detection, and load limiting?
Yes the charger does
Glad to see Eddie making a appearance 😂
What this tells me is that the industry is unable to regulate itself. I've had crap work done but Part P self certify means it just be ok right?
Well done for taking the shield data cable outside the consumer before joining. Think it looks so much better too 👍.
Also well done for admitting you jumped the gun on the SWA. Although you are still right it was Rough. 😮
Thank you and thank you 👍👍
EV owners are a Goldmine for screwing twice over.
I’ve barely started training, but even I would be utterly embarrassed to put my name to this original work.
Like your CAT5 solution.
Thank you 👍
Lovely job 👍 Not a fan of the pre flex chargers too! More shit you’ve got to mount to the wall 😢
Thanks mate
The issue with getting someone in to do trades work is that however much you pay you're never immune from getting ripped off. At least if you end up with a shit job you can console yourself that at least you didn't pay top whack for it. (Am I cynical, probably. But that's from paying over the odds for crap work in the past. I tend to do most things myself nowadays - wouldn't take on an EVC though, I'm not daft).
Couldn't agree more. I think the next time I employ someone not only will I get quotes but I'll also get independent references with pictures and video ideally! In fact I think I'll make sure I get someone with a TH-cam channel so I can see them at work first😂
thanks for sharing have a great weekend
You too!!
There seems to be an awful lot of unqualified qualified electricians out there?
There is, wail till you see my next video 😱
I do not agree the cheapest quote means a poor install. It’s not uncommon for d highest price gives a similar standard.
Great video but stop the horrendous "music" background.
Totally unnecessary, particularly the thumping bass, which drowns out the voice audio.
Eddie on the roll again…
Great job. Go easy with the edits though😀
On thanks mate
What makita drill you getting through? I have the dh243 and its been used and abused for years , core drill holes chase out with it n it still going strong … frost / cold over winters killed a few batts tho
I’ve burnt out 2 of the DHR242Z drills
Hey mate, can you recommend a charger with solar integration, mid range and easy install/set up?
Hi mate the Simpson and partners of the zappi 👍
These videos generate me smile always. UK is somewhere in shorly after war time with electric distribution on end customers. One of last countries where is not 3 face in every property, flat etc. These chargers delivery such a small power to charge electric vehicles. With 3 face is completly different story.
Well what and how do you suggest doing about it then and are you happy to pay for it?
Sure - if we knew now what we didn't know then we would have done this differently. I'm sure there are things we are doing now which in 50 years time will seem insane.
I'm sure I install stuff which I think are future proofed in my house which in 10 years are made irrelevant.
The facts are simple in most cases. Only a single phase was brought in underground to each property from the street. to change that for umpteen millions properties now would be horrendously expensive.
...and it's spelt 3 phase.
On the other hand, UK homes have been getting 100A hookups for years, haven’t they? The standard here in NL is either 1x 35A (older homes) or 3x25A, and if you want anything heavier (you might with a heat pump and EV charger), your fixed fee jumps from €200 a year to €800.
Great job.
Thank you 👍👍
I thought Rolec had pen protection built in, why TT the system 🤔
Easy money
4:24 OK, what was wrong with it?
Yes the cheapest quote is not the best one and nore is the dearest one just saying some are greedy and some were not
Even if you go for the cheapest quote isn't it supposed to be of a minimum standard at least ... Or does this poor instal actually comply?
It does not comply. The trouble is, no one is inspecting these installs
Don't use the whiska box as they are too big. Get an ip adaptable box from the merchants. Just drill 2 25mm stuffers on the bottom and bobs your auntie
Ok il try that next time 👍
How much did the customer pay previously? £100?
Artisans been there with the swa in stuffing glands😢😢
Seriously though Adam, what else would you expect from a Rolec Approved install?😢
Nothing good from what I have seen so far on all the Rolex jobs I have come across unfortunately
@@sotaelectrical ha ha, i bet people wished they were to Rolex quality
@@SME_Ste 🤣 bloody auto correct
Apsolute Quality Sir 👌👊👊⚡⚡⚡⚡
Thank you sir 👍👍👍
Absolutely^
This new charger is more hassle than it should be 😂
Main switch???
Could u put omee on a 32a plug
I’m afraid not
@@sotaelectrical sow why do cars come with a 13amp charger with it and another charge lead
@@granvillebloor6569 so you can trickle charge your car
OK, but how do you choose the right firm?
Because 'choose the most expensive' is no guarantee, is it?
hey do you think you can link all the tools you use in the description ?
If I get time il do that for you 👍
Thanks sir
Excellent video. We need you in every corner of the country and people wouldn't get cowboys. Wish you lived my way. Notice you're not using the dust collector any more. Did the pan get jealous. 😅 Have a great weekend.
Hi Richard, thank you for your comments, very kind and appreciated!! The dust collector is no longer in use because the drill has died 🙁
Cutting the cable does not void the warranty I spoke to my Ohme rep, it’s only if you don’t ferrule the cable ends.
They also put in a recent newsletter not to use screw terminals for the JB.
Ok interesting! I have heard mixed reports on this now
What you will use if not screw terminals?
Wonder what Ze they were getting on that shoddy TT
Nothing good I imagine
Probably tested it from the van lol
@@jacktissington most probably!!
Health and safety is very good here 😂😂😂
I saw you slagging of the work that was done by a an unqualified diy fitted on a sunday homeowner you vetted about important it is to use certified fitters ,we didnt see you digging a 1.30 meter deep trench across the yard to bury the armoured 13amp flex
What 13A flex and what yard are you going on about??
Eddy's current bun lol
Customer buys 100k EV can’t pay a couple hundred bucks for a legit circuit installation 🤦♂️ Or the unlucky ppl who have the breaker box so far away form garage 🤷♂️ 😅
Well to put it more like reality.......customer gets an EV on company lease/HP paying £350-£450 a month, doesn't want to pay £1000-£1500 up front for expensive charger install.
Eddy must of fitted the DB
Those tails look great, in their own hole , 😂 Eddie may pay a visit lol ummmm