I took on an IMPOSSIBLE job... what was I thinking??
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- Today I honestly had no idea how to get this job done if plan A failed, I had no choice but to push through at all costs.
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I would have given that about half hour before i disconnected that cable. Tied 2 cables onto it, pulled that through and then pulled one back with original tied on (and a rope). Love the commitment though. Never give up, never surrender
I just had this absolute determination to make it work 🤣 thanks for watching though mate, really appreciate it 👍👍
Exactly my first thought!
I'm lost, the last person was an absolute tool to be honest! Baffled as to why they didn't leave a rope behind for the next guy if not for themselves when initially installing the first cable? Should just be common sense or some sort of unwritten rule amongst us 😭
Major issue if the rope coils around the cable in this circumstance, but I do agree a little bit of thought goes along way!!!
More baffled at the board only having 1 spare way left
Baffled why people with a garage dont install the charger indoors.
An impossible job = small SWA through a duct within a domestic house
You can get a flexible end for the cobra helps sometimes on beds. You can also get a small cobra marrying end with another cobra pull through. Use a duct camera to help also. Nice job.
Great tips thanks!
Love the vids and the pride you take in all your work.
Thank you so much 👍👍
Really enjoy your videos Sota and your style of filming & editing! Appreciate all the hard work you put into it 🙏
Thank you so much, comments like this make the 8 hours of editing all worth it 👍👍
Inspirational! Your determination to make it work is so commendable. Great video 👍
Thank you!! 👍👍
Another amazing video! Brilliant work 👏 😃
Thank you!!
Just come across your channel. Great interesting video providing some real practical tips on how to get over certain issues. As some other commenters have said some other channels have turned into glorified adverts so good to see someone just doing the job so no hesitation in subscribing. Looking forward to more great content.
Thank you so much for subscribing!! My channel is all about boots on the ground, working hard and trying to share good content and tips if I can, thank you for watching!! 👍👍
Great video and good to see a tidy job completed as usual. Stick with the videos as yours are by far most informative. Can't understand why your subscriber count is not higher but once it starts climbing you will hit 100k easy..
Thank you so much, really appreciate your comments, I’m struggling with the subscriber count for sure, fortunately I enjoy making videos so I’m just going to plow on and keep banging videos out
Love it mate, what a feeling seeing it at the other end. Quality real life content as always
Thank you sir!
Brilliant! Patient, persistent, pragmatic!
Thank you sir
Another great video, handy tip with the solar ct 👍 well done mate
Thank you mate 👍👍
Great video and awesome install again mate! When we get stuck with the cobra, we get a small stuffing gland and tape it on the end. Just a thought if you ever get stuck again and it helps! Keep up the great work 👍🏻
That’s a great tip! Not heard that one before!! Thank you as always 👍👍
Very well done.
Thank you!! 👍👍
the zappi freeze possibility the Cat5/ lan/ 2 pairs of cat5 cable used a wrong pair, pin 1/2 should be a pair, pin 3/6 should be another pair, it is the matter of noise cancellation of twisted pair cat5 designed for
Nice job. When I pull through any conduit, I put some washing up liquid on the cable as it really helps pull through and stops it burning against any other cables in the conduit. Might come in handy.
Yellow 77
Thank you, yes I am aware of this technique and I have some ‘yellow lube’ on the van but it makes such a mess and impossible to grip if it doesn’t go first time
Silicone spray is good and no mess
Nice work I've never installed one of these a great insight in carrying out installation nice job my friend
Thank you buddy 👍👍
Just stumbled across this channel and top marks from me. I’m a spark with my EV qual but working for a firm where we rarely do these installs (mainly new builds). Made this look great though opened my eyes a bit
Thank you sir! I need a few more thousand people to stumble across my channel 🤣🤣 appreciate you taking the time to comment buddy 👍👍
Well done on the pull mate!
Thank you mate!
Impressed. I would never have thought that Duct would be usable without using the existing cable as the draw wire
Thank you! It was quite a monumental effort 🤣
Great job. Enjoying your videos with actual electrical work. A few other channels have turned into full blown adverts recently 😂
Thanks mate I know exactly what you mean! 🤣
Corrugated ducting is horrible … you want the corrugated but smooth surface on inside
11mins to install clips and dress the cable in that’s absolutely incredible!!
Thanks mate 👍
quality job... perseverance pays off in the end.
Thank you mate 👍👍
At first I thought the duct was split and you were pushing into a void, great job on getting the cable in, some other sparks might have given up and clipped direct in the house lol.
Mills Ltd do bendy attachments for Cobra as you can’t beat having gadgets 😊
That’s amazing thanks I will check them out!! Love a gadget!! 👍👍
Top man, nice to see a proper spark on TH-cam
No nonsense like some others
Thanks mate 👍👊
In my opinion all the electricians on TH-cam are absolutely brilliant
Good video, for next time, keep dripping in some cable lube as you are feeding the cable through, massively improves the ability to pull cable through especially when there’s another cable already in there, we use the 3M lube and comes in 1L bottles.
If you’re stuck trying to push the rod through, tie a bit of tissue to a drawer string and vacuum it through the pipe 👍👍
Keep up the great videos.
Thank you, appreciate you taking the time to give me some tips, il make sure I buy a tub of that, thanks again 👍
I second the cable lube. Was on a job lately I went home after a day and bought a tub that night. What a difference
Cable lube 🤣
Great job 👏
Thank you 👍👍
Quality content, quality work.
Thank you!! 👍👍
a string, plastic bag and a hover
Nice install
Thank you 👍👍
I've seen cable lads using cable ties on the cobra similar to how you put the cable on the end but with 2 ties
Nice! I don't know if that conduit is airtight, otherwise I'd suggest a carrier bag attached to some twine, and a hoover on the other end. Sucks it right through!
Great tip for next time!! 👍👍
U smashed it mate 👏🏾👏🏾
Thank you mate 👍
Quality job 👍🏻
Thank you 👍👍
Love this👌🏻
Thanks 👍👍
Just a tip, if you get a thick zip tie and fold it in a loop and tape it onto the cobra itll help when going round bends.
That’s brilliant thanks mate
Wow ive never seen a cobra in such good nick. Another way is draw sting, rubber glove and a hoover as some of the bends you cant get the cobra round, but a rubber glove with some draw string tied on and a hoover on the other end just sucks it straight through when you face this challenge at 2:15, probably hit a tight bend, yeah often just force you can get around it but it can be hard work and take longer for no reason, but since the other end had a box over it I get why you may not want to try this immediately
3:30 thatll be the final bend into the cupboard just like when you feed it from the house to garage, thats why you struggled, that too is often a problem, force would get you there eventually but since its not smooth ducting itll make it much harder as itll get caught at every slight bend, hoover, drawstring and glove job thatll be. Or the cobra should of come with a bigger bullet end, put that one on as then it may not get caught on all the ribbing on this type of duct work
Edit spelling mistake --right-- tight
Thanks for the comments and all the tips!! 👍👍
Fair play didn’t think you would get that through the duct - last one I did had two pieces of separated duct instead of coupler not something , had to track where it was with a CAT and Genny then dig 🤦♂️
Thanks mate, your job sounded like a nightmare!
Been running 50mm & 25mm armoureds through pits this week. Job would be impossible without a cobra and blue rope. Love the videos btw ❤
Thank you mate 👍👍
another suggestion is to get some fishing line - tie a small bag or such to the end and use a vacuum cleaner to suck the things through. also Lubing up the cable helps pulling it in - good work as usual
Thank you 👍👍
A lesson in perseverance if there ever was one well done
Thank you sir
Also…..be good to see the process from initial enquiry, to handing over……including the bit where you assess the supply, earthing system and max demand etc. showing us the decision making process as to whether you need to notify the Network before or after installation.
Ok il try and put together a video to try and show this but bare with me on this 👍
What can I say, just awesome. 👏 Now a certain other electrical YT channel had turned into a travelog you're my go to for electrical entertainment. Mind you, did you make the boss leave the country with your review video? Now that's a question. 😂
That’s great to hear!! Thank you so much!! My review video… I have no idea what you are talking about 😂🤣 however, HyperVolt did phone me for a discussion about that video… TBC.
@@sotaelectrical I did think it interesting the Hypervolt is meant to come out of the box in order of install (according to a certain other video) but your video clearly showed that's not the case. Hopefully Hypervolt will rectify. 🤞
@@richard_in_rayleigh we shall see!! Hope you have a good weekend Mate 👍👍👍👍
You too. 😊
Good job! Out of interest what cable was used to initially supply the garage?
Side note - Could try vacuuming through a really light line through with a bag on the end as a draw for the rod!
Thank you, it was a 2.5mm high tuff cable. It’s a trick I will try out on my next one, thank you mate
Thanks for the response!
Would have loved to have done my Apprenticeship with this guy. Would have learned so much more than doing mine with a housing association.
Thank you mate 👍👍
Love your videos, they are really honest! Something that maybe useful or not and I'm not sure if this client had battery storage but with a Hybrid PV and Battery system, to stop the Zappi draining the battery in ECO+ mode you need to set a small export margin of 50w. The setting is done here: Other Settings -> Advanced -> x x x x x -> Supply Grid -> Network -> Export Margin
Thank you so much for your comments, really appreciate it, client didn’t have battery storage but I will take note of this tip, thanks for taking the time to share
Very good. What would you have done if the duct was completely blocked and impassable?
Thank you, I would have had to dig a trench and start again basically
Option B for me would be use the existing cable to pull through anew cable large enough to put a CU in the garage and have it completely separate to the house......and if possible a clothes line or rope if it fitted for future washing up liquid too to help
Which is a good option B if your prepared to pay for the larger cable and extra materials out of your own pocket? I done two quotes, one for the install I done and another for exactly what you said which was dearer and declined. Unfortunately not a bottomless pot of money on these jobs
@@sotaelectrical oh I know but come on they have the money.....
When it comes to these things future proffing is what it's all about, hopefully though they never need to run anything else thought that as it definitely wasn't an easy task but that fish wire was an absolute god send.
Sorry meant to add even use the cable as a fish wire to add a rope and cable and bring it back, I was thinking it in my mind, have done that myself previously as the cable itself possible has a bit of a bend in it which was making the feed of your wire difficult......
Nice video mate. The only thing I’d say is the seal on the dome head stuffer should seal around the sheath…..and the rubber insert is closer to the dome head end than the locking nut end…….it looked like you stripped it back too far?
Hi mate thank you, I was waiting for someone to snag this 🤣 when I done the stuffer up you could just see the white inner sheath of the high tuff but you can’t see it on the film, I made sure it was right on site but I noticed you couldn’t see it when I was editing.
Nice job SOTA . Change over switch to generator would be interesting.
Thank you
Good work. Could have disconnected old cable and used as a draw wire, replacing with thicker cable and putting CU in garage?
Thank you, I gave my client this option but they wanted it done this way 🤷🏻♂️
Great video, thank you as we all learn from watching you and the suggestions that then follow. If you did not post your video I would be no wiser.
Thank you so much for watching my video, really appreciated 👍
Oh and slippery on the pull of course
And this is why you should always back rope and re-back rope Duct lines, would of made it a much easier job.
Is it ok using the Zappy on a pme or tn-s system then? Never installed a Zappy. Wondering if there is PEN fault protection built into the zappy?
Yes it’s fine, it has built in PEN fault 👍👍
Really should have used the old cable to pull a rope through then pull 2 cables through after less burning on the cables then as well / time saving but ifs and buts and maybes still a great video nice job ! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks mate 👍
Use existing cable to pull two blue ropes through then use one of ropes to pull hituff back through?
This was an option but I just didn’t need to do it in the end
Just an ideal , Couldn’t you of just ran a larger cable into the existing DB?
Like a 10mm SWA and then used the existing hi-tuff as a draw too pull it through? and then could maybe pull a 10mm 3core and a Shielded Data cable for the CT?
As that EV Ultra stuff is expensive anyway, may of potentially saved time and maybe off set the materials cost? Just an idea anyway as I think re-pulling in the new cable with the existing one as a draw wire would have probably made it a lot quicker IMO?
Obviously you are there in real time but it was just how I saw it myself…. Disconnect existing tie it on and pull it through?
Hi mate, so I gave my client all these options but this is what they wanted
Brilliant video. Getting that cobra through the ducting was legendary, but maybe you should have edited out punching yourself 🤣👍
🤣🤣 I like to keep it real, these things happen!! 😂😂
Let me know when your next in Sheffield please 👍 #fitmyevcharger
lol would love to buddy 👍
Mate , put a hose in there first ( an a bucket to catch the excess at the other end . Works 9 out of 10…
Diesel Creek channel sucking a plastic bag attached to an wire thru a pipe... attach an rope to the wire and voila
Might have been a good idea to pull back a rope for any possible future cable that might be run in that conduit. Otherwise looks good.
Agreed but I simply didn’t have any
@@sotaelectrical Fair enough, not something I'd head to the wholesalers exclusively for.
@@AndrewStrydomBRP exactly, unfortunately as I’m sure you know, a van is only so big, can’t have everything on it, il be sure to do it next time though 👍
Is that a looped supply? I'd recommend using jelly crimps for the ct connections. They are water proof connections usually used by bt way cheaper than wagos
No, the other cable is the garage feed.
Correct
@sotaelectrical 10:00 oh my bad looked like looped on the cut out
Good video mate 👍
@@Akz-xc1gu no probs, thanks for watching mate, really appreciate it 👍✌️
Use a nail gun to punch plastic clips into the wooden wall plate when metal clips and screws would have better durability and taken same time to install yet get the 230v drill out to drill through the wall
Pointless comment
Top job fella
Thanks mate 👍
Could always try the plastic bag and vacuum method next time
Lots of people have suggested this, it’s definitely something I will try next time, thanks for the tip and for watching my video, honestly do appreciate it 👍
Hey. Do you recommend any charger specifically? How do you rate each app for customer usage/bugs? Getting a Tesla soon and wondering what to go with. Was thinking Zappi (not getting solar) initially but after hearing about its weird radio Wi-Fi setup and the app reviews of most EV chargers in general, they almost all seem to have terrible reviews (2.5 stars at best...). Then thought of the the Hypervolt but its app doesn't even allow reviews yet. Also the Ohme but that got one of the worst, 1.7 stars on android app...
Now I'm thinking the Tesla Wall Connector for the, I think, Tesla vehicle exclusive? Vin restriction for charging, that I think it's the only charger with and opening the charge port, as well as one app for everything. Don't think it tracks costs/usage but the car itself does anyway. Only issue with it is I'm in the Republic of Ireland and I'm not sure if it's eligible for our 600 euro charger grant due to it being considered a dumb charger in the past, as well as it needing its own pen fault protection or ground, though I'm not even sure about our regulations on that.
Hi there, I would take what you read online with a lunch of salt, the Zappi is a great charger, I install so many of them with no callbacks, I also recommend the HyperVolt, both have good apps that are easy to use.
Do you have mountain warehouse
Where do you buy a power cable with Ethernet? Does it come as 5x4mm for 3 phase?
Yes it comes in 6mm and 10mm also, i get it from Rexel but most wholesalers have it now
@@sotaelectrical How that type of cable is called?
@@Mladjasmilic it’s called EV ultra cable
I think it is Doncaster cables. I am not a sparky I have just watched a lot of videos ;)
never thought you would get cable passed other cable all that way .great job client must of been happy
Thank you, client was super pleased I didn’t have to run a cable through his lounge and dig a trench!
Why did you use the 2.5 swa as a draw pull in a 10sqr for consumer unit in the garage
Done what the customer wanted, gave them all the options
@sotaelectrical oh OK 👍 good job bro
@@mufc99ok thanks bro
9000!! views mate!!!
Thank you!! 👍👍
Is it a stupid question to ask why not pull the old cable through with a new one thats upto the job and fit a consumer unit in the garage. I'm sure there's a logical reason.
Yes the customer didn’t want that. Simple as that. I proposed the idea on a separate quote and he declined it.
My new build came with a 7kw/32a charger on the wall. Could never get it to charge over 16A. In my consumer unit the fuse for the EV charger is DETA 1216. So a 16A fuse. Is that why I can’t charge over 16A? Could I simply swap it out for a 32A fuse? I have 100A coming into the house.
Can I ask what charger you have? You have load curtailment in place, you need to ensure that you have a 4mm or 6mm cable installed to the charger depending on length of cable run, you may have a 2.5mm which is why it’s been limited to 16A.
@@sotaelectrical Thanks for the reply. It’s an icsh7d. Doesn’t seem to be a very popular model!
@@SPDTDL ahh that’s CEF’s own EV charger, that would have been installed as part of a deal with the contractors.
@@sotaelectrical Turns out it’s been installed with 2.5 cable just like you thought. I’ve had a quote of £450 to rewire it direct from the meter box. 20m run Ultra ev cable. Does that sound about right?
@@SPDTDL sounds like a very fair price to me 👍👍
I might be a mile off here but from a performance POV never use WiFi boosters, they are dogshit (all of them) as they're simply repeaters which by their nature half bandwidth. 100meg (wired) Ethernet only uses two pairs, you can happily wire up cabled internet for the charger or install a small wired access point in the outbuilding (granted you'll need to use a POE injector to power it) but for a posh install like that, it's worth not being called back because your charger install (with wifi booster) ruined their internet :) I know it worked this time, but it looked like you might use a booster if it didn't
Thanks for the advice mate, I have found that the boosters work quite well to be honest, but I absolutely agree a hardwired connection is far better if it’s an option.
@@sotaelectrical the problem is the effect they have on the bandwidth (speed) where they are in effect. Because they have to first receive then re transmit eveything, effectively they half the available speed. It may not be noticed depending on the location and application but it has the possibility to be a costly call back. For example say there was a home office in the garage or external, a booster might cause problems when the client comes back to work etc.
@@pinmast0r point taken thanks for the advice!
Mr Professional
If using a cobra for save kind of job try using tape into shape of a small golf ball to go round the bends easier. I'm an Openreach engineer and it comes in handy can be a life saver sometimes
Nice tip thanks mate il try that next time 👍👍
Hope it helps. Keep up the great work
@@hairebare1 thanks mate 👍👍
Cleen job
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When ducting is concerned, I opt for the plastic bag (or cotton handkerchief) on paracord and a vacuum cleaner method.
Thanks for the tips
Why not just replace the feed to the garage with a bigger feed and put a small board in the garage surly that would have made more sense
I ran my client through all the options and he didn’t want that,
granted it worked but, I'd of pulled through rope at first then used that too pull the cable as you can doo multiple loop knots which tighten the more you pull... just a thought cause Jesus if it had come loose sanity would be lost and the fact you knows it can go through means you will do the whole process again XD
Hi mate yes that would have been a better way for sure but I didn’t have any blue rope on the van 😱 you know what it’s like, use what you got and do the best you can 👍👍
As i do this with the cobra daily you can get a spring bullet to attach onto the cobra which gets around bends easily.
Then again use cable ties with tape to make a bulb shape to push through blockages.
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The other thing is put lube on the cable you pull in