How To Run a Commander Pro Without The Bloated Software
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2022
- In this video I show you how to run a Commander Pro without the iCue software. Many fan and RGB controllers require buggy and bloated software like Corsair iCue to work. So I wanted to see if it was possible to get the same or better functionality with a fraction of the resources.
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Many people have reported that the Commander Pro plugin isn't available anymore.
here is a link to an older binary that I used when I originally filmed the video.
github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases/files/9946327/FanControl.CommanderPro.zip
Hope this helps.
any reason you did not connect the pump to the commander pro / would this be even possible?
@@astritkazimi6545 Yes, most motherboards will display an error at post if they don't detect an RPM from the CPU fan. Since there is no CPU fan in a water cold system the common practice is to plug the pump into the CPU header in order to give the motherboard an RPM reading.
@@astritkazimi6545 Yes you can, I have two pumps in parallel where I do this. Most motherboards you go to BIOS and CPU fan speed, select "ignore" option
This allows you PC to boot with no fan for the cpu and will not complain during boot about 0rpm on the cpu fan . No reason to use the mobo headers at all.
This plugin does not work correctly with temperature sensors. Measurement step - 3 degrees!!!
so for some resaon i cannot find the plugins folder, its simply not there
I've had a Corsair Commander Pro sitting in my case unused for four years now. I *hated* their iCue software, so the Commander Pro has just sat there unused for all this time. I have been using FanControl for the last year, and *love* it. Thanks to you, I can now go back to using my Commander Pro without all the iCue bloatware.
I hope your channel ends up with millions of subscribers... you give thorough and easy to follow instructions covering extremely useful topics. Your production quality (video, audio and editing) are all *on point* too.
I'm *so* glad I found your channel! Thumbs and subs from me and my family.
Glad it helped.
For fan control, the real fun starts when you start using "mix" curves. It allows you to combine multiple curves together, like with a Max function, which will output the maximum of two ( or more ) curves. Thus you could combine your CPU and GPU curve, and it would spin up either if your CPU OR GPU gets hot.
That's excellent. I was just wondering if there was a way to make the middle case fan respond to either my CPU or GPU.
A lot of case setups don't really benefit from this.
However, blow-through style cases REALLY just wanna roughly match case fan noise level with the loudest component in the system, and it's a good way to set that up.
And the most common style of new case you'll find around.
Big thanks for your work, amigo 👍👍👍
Thank you.
Great video, thank you!!
Thank you.
Thanks bro, u help me a lot👍
Cool, glad it helped.
Great video. Thanks for this but unfortunately I was unable to get it to work with the Commander Core. I used the release with the plugin file at the link you provided. Only my GPU was recognized as having any speed control.
Thank you i have OpenRBG and it does control a lot it will show you on there website i did not know about fan control Thank you
At least OpenRGB is OPEN....this fancontrol app is not.
This essentially enables corsair products to work on linux, awesome work
Not quite. Fan control software in Linux is absolutely atrocious. It should work for the RGB, maybe. However, not sure how you would run the fan controller. I highly doubt lmsensors has a commander pro plugin. I can just barely get lmsensors to work on my B450 chipset using an old unsupported driver.
@@CyberCPU Hey, it's most definitely less buggy than icue. I'll take what I can get lol
nice man very good video is help me so much thanks
Glad I could help
For a simply clean program like fan control should donate a little to the guy who made it.
Agreed.
Sick, i was worried i had use the ICUE software!
It's a nice open source software but still growing and probably for a professional like you it's a easy thing to understand and fix the problem. I use nzxt cam, Asus Ai suite fan controller, armoury crate and aura creator. Ya that's to much bloating in my system. If they can make a open source app with integrated access to control fan speed and RGB, motherboard RGB and lot's of other 3rd party RGB or fan controller is one app. That would be a day i get this piece of g on my PC. Currently it still crashes and that may be a big issue for a newbie like me. But thanks for the video. I will keep an eye on this project because it looks promising to me.
It's not as hard as it looks. However, I have no idea how it will work on your hardware. I can only speak for how it works on the commander Pro. However, it would probably do really good on replacing armory crate. But I don't know about Nzxt.
I use and SWEAR by SignalRGB....never looked back
@CyberCPU Tech - Unfortunately, The Commander Pro plugin has been removed to github, is there any other location to find it? I specifically purchased a Commander Pro to resolve and issue I have, and my fear is that I have now just wasted money if Fan Control will no longer work with the Commander Pro.
thanks a lot!
Hi, thanks for the video. My motherboard doesn't have an onboard 2-pin temp sensor, so I'm planning on buying a Commander Pro so I can connect a water temp sensor to my loop and have the fan & pump speeds based on the water temp. Do you think I'll be able to achieve this with Rem0o's FanControl software? I'm a bit worried because the Commander Pro plugin seems to no longer be actively developed and on this latest fork it states that "Temperature sensors not yet active.". Thanks again for your video!
The current Commander Pro plugin works fine and you could definitely set it up based on water temperature. However, I did that before and it didn't work very well. Water temperature just doesn't scale very well. It takes a while for water to heat up and cool down so it doesn't correspond with CPU and GPU temp well. I find it more effective to use the CPU/GPU temperature to adjust pump and fan speed.
When you're basing your fan speed off of water temperature your CPU or GPU will heat up unchecked as water temperature stays relatively the same for a long period of time. However, if you base fan speed off of the CPU/GPU you can react much faster on rising temperatures.
In the latest iCUE v5 update, Corsair broke the Commander Pro. The fans will only run on the lowest setting on the fan curve unless you are using a sensor directly on the Commander Pro...
I have recently posted a video showing it here.
I'd really like if it a section for OpenRGB plugins were added. You can do some wild stuff with it.
Here is what I have found, you don't even need any of that. If you want to use the commander pro, with it can be done where you disable the services, and it wont allow them to run. Also if you update all the firmware on the commander pro, and its lighting notes, you can still control all the lighting to the way you want. The commander pro can handle all that without ICue. However, if your like me, and have set the lighting up, and don't intend to change you can install all the fans onto the motherboard, including the pump, and then control them of the motherboard. Doing it so the motherbaord controls all the fans takes away some controls through windows, if you dont want to run the motherboard stuff through windows. I have done it so I have a nice quite system, without the noise and bloatware of icue, armory crate, app center and all the rest of it. You just have to know and learn what your system, and be confident in your abilities.
The way you have your system set up, you might as well be using DRGB 12 Volt, aura by asus controls the ARGB header or headers if you are lucky to have two of them from the motherboard and whatever that is set to whatever is connected to that header will follow, you cannot individually address each item in your system regarding ARGB, a stands for addressable so you are not getting but maybe 25% functionality.
ARGB is powered with five volts while digital RGB is powered with 12 volts with four pins, ARGB has three pins often with the 4th pin being missing on pin number three. By the way look for a program called signal RGB I have never looked back.
Your fans are best controlled by the UEFI bios, if it supports fan curves. If controlled in the BIOS, they work all the time no matter what, and the UEFI bios on my Gigabyte mobo is really very good for fan curves. Control up to like 6 channels of fans... up to 18 if you wanted with 1 to 3 splitters. I don't even use the PWM controllers on the COrsair black boxes, because those only work while your software is running in windows. WHich is not all the tiem.. like while you are in BIOS, booting up, shutting down, running linux, etc. So run your fans directly off the PWM headers on yoru motherboard, and only use the RGB ports on your Corsair black boxes. You don't need Corsair controlling your fan speeds, unless you *really* want to use their temperature probes to do something special.
Sorry for the double comment, but just wanted to add one thing...
Guys/Gals/Etc., FanControl is capable of far more than what is covered in this video. CyberCPUT Tech couldn't cover all of FanControl's functionality in any reasonable length video; there's just too much to cover!
Most all of the questions asked so far in this video's comments could be answered by just READING THE FanControl DOCUMENTATION! :)
So many people have commented that the video didn't cover such-and-such feature of FanControl... well of course not! Just too much stuff to cover. IMO, the video did a *great* job of getting someone started with basic FanControl functionality, and it is left to the user to put in a *small* amount of effort to actually learn the software and what it is capable of.
TL;DR: RTFM, peeps! There's great stuff in there. : D
Hi, thx for this video ! I have a problem : the rpm is not indicated for my corsair's fans...
is there a plugin for me to lower the pump speed on my new h150i elite with qx fans? I can't stand 2400 rpm on Quiet mode.
I have a Commander Core XT, does the Commander Pro plugin work for that too?
I dont think it works with more than one commander, i use the commander core and the XT, with the plugin, it gives the option to pick them. but it also turns my rgb off (icue hardware lighting) and icue is uninstalled as well. Currently cant take control on fans/speeds to identify which fan is which. :(
The iCue has been total trash for me. Im unable to detect the commander or the fans even though they are spinning with lights. What makes it worse is without the iCue, im unable to make any changes to the LCD display on the Elite upgrade (which is the reason i wanted to buy it in the first place). Now its just sitting there showing me the liquid temperature. Im just wondering if this software is able to configure the Elite LCD as well or if theres any alternative softwares. TIA
Any tips on getting a Corsair AIO water temp sensor reading into Fan Control? I seem to struggle getting this valuable data into HWInfo & Fan Control.. I'm almost forced to use iCue at this point..
Do you know if there is any way to make this work with the Corsair Commander Pro? I really do not want to have to buy the XT version to make this work
i put it in the plugins folder and its not working at all for me. and when it recognizing anything at all the rgb dies
hey! Any program to read all sensors and have them display in a cute way ? I mean what the mother, vga, cpu, core xt reads... I see something like this could be icue, but it does not read everything... AIDA64 reads everything, but nothing regarding the sensors in the core xt... so to see everything I need to have 2 different thigns installed and put them in different places... besides that, icue does not have an OSD or something similar to that, you need to have the dashboard open all the times.
Any advice or tool to test, much obliged.
So, if you shutdown iCue so that fan control can get control of the fans, then open iCue, iCue can then control the RGBs and does not take over the control of the fans.
Thanks for this!!
However, My "speeds" section at the bottom has recognized my commander core fans (all 6 of them) BUT it says they're at 0 rpm, they also dont appear in the top section - any idea how to fix this?
UPDATE: I now have my fans (apart from my AIO) added into FanControl BUT i can only control the speeds / get a reading for RPM when iCUE is open and they flick between 0 and whatever iCUE has set them to - do you know how to bypass this?
Kinda defeats the poing in having it...
This might sound odd but im using a air cooled pc with fans 4 fan set up. is there a way i can just plug the fans in normal fan plugs and forget about controlling the lights. Truth be told im fine with default lights given im replacing the 3 fans in front that i think are failing. My rig is a 1660 gpu with ryzen 7 3200 cpu and 32 gigs ram. I never look at my fans i am just looking at these given same brackets set up given tower puts the fans outside the tower with a plate that goes in front. Mobo is a b450 pro R4
Looks like the plugin has been removed by the user. 404 error when you visit the link.
Anywhere else to get it?
Open RGB is a pita. If it didn't crash still the time, it would be so much better.
OpenRGB had me so frustrated while doing the research for this video I actually had given up on it at one point and tried to find something different but couldn't find anything with the same functionality.
At one point I thought the only solution was to install iCue and set the hardware lighting profile and then uninstall it. However you'd have to reinstall iCue every time you wanted to change the RGB.
Luckily in the end I was able to figure out a fairly consistent way to do it that I put in the video.
On a side note I did that entire section on OpenRGB and didn't have a single crash and everything worked perfect but I forgot to hit record in OBS so none of it was recorded and I had to redo the whole section and that time it crashed as you can see several times. 😂🤣
@@CyberCPU it crashers just when I need it not to. It will not see the case fans, just the Mobo and RAM. Glad to see it gives problems in Win just as much as Linux. Misery loves company. I do hope the dev is able to make some much needed updates before too long.
Thanks for doing this research! If it helps any, you might check out a software called SignalRGB. It has integrated RGB and fan speed control for the commander pro and other devices. It has rarely, if ever, crashed on me and only runs two processes in task manager that I can see. For the longest time I though icue was my only option, but I started using Signal and never looked back. Other than a few small bugs occasionally, it runs pretty smooth. Thanks again!
The fan speed control requires the premium version though, which is not free.
@@jacobburesh8522 I did look into that one and didn't consider it because I wanted to use free software.
i have a problem. Fan control recognizes the commander but it doesn`t let me edit the fan speed, it just shows it
My openRGB software does not detect Corsair commander pro.
i tried many things to: uninstalling icue, and removing the all LED wires on from the commander pro.
i cant get openRGB to detect the AIO cover.
Just uninstalled iCue - been having this issue when my screens with go black and fans would begin spinning super fast. The computer is 'on' but I have to hard-power-button-reset it to get it back.
Is it possible to control multiple Commander Pros with this plugin?
the PC industry especially the mainboard manufacturers have to do something... I mean the manufacturers can bring out a uniform software together. which also works and is not bloatware that runs 20 services and programs in the background. But no, as always, some factors play a role, especially money... it's just a shame...
I think a lot of it has to do with branding, however it would be nice for there to be a universal standard kind of like there is for NVIDIA GPUs. Every Nvidia graphics card can be tweaked with MSI afterburner. Even non MSI cards. If we had a similar standard for RGB then the company with the best RGB program would win and get their branding on everyone's system.
However this isn't preferable for companies that have crappy RGB software. So there's really no incentive to create a universal standard. The only reason we have the universal standard with Nvidia is because of Nvidia. Even though MSI dominates the market for overclocking software they don't even follow a universal standard for their own RGB control interface.
Any chance there is a way to control the pump speed for an aio through this software? I have a corsair h100i elite, and I have completely searched the internet for a way to control the pump speed without having to go through icue software. My pump is not showing up on this software.
Sorry, I'm not sure. I don't have that aio to try it.
Yes you can control the pump. Watch the video by JayZtwocents of the same software. Its a walkthrough. th-cam.com/video/uDPKVKBMQU8/w-d-xo.html
I didn't mind using icue before, but when I went to play some older games I found out that the software conflicts and makes them crash. So I'm back to using fancontrol again
I save even more resources , my CPU-cooler´s RGB just needs power form the fan header to do it´s thing & fan control is in the BIOS/UEFI ...
I added the plugin but they only show in my Speeds tab. They don't show in my controls after i run the Assisted setup.
Did you right click on the plugin file and check the box that says it's a trusted program "or something like that"?
Fan controll works wonderfully with my commander pro and pro XT though I will warn, the fans won't auto detect so you'll have to assign fan to senor manually. Also, fan control turns off all my rbg (which is hardware lighting), and open rgb doesn't detect my commander pro at all. Has anyone had a problem similar to this?
Where do I go and assign them manually?
@@superadapt7470 I know this is a reeeeeaaaaaallly late reply but in case anyone else is wondering, you do it by clicking the 3 dots on one of the controls and press Pair Speed Sensor. Then add the speed sensor with the matching name of the control
Am I doing something wrong? I ran the setup by program doesnt detect my fans or commander pro. Also when i go to properties of the plugin i do not see where i can click unblock?
I show how to unblock it in the video. I don't remember off the top of my head how to do it. I know it's somewhere in properties.
@@CyberCPU I followed your video but when it gets to part where you click unblock .. I just dont have that option to click.
@@JRAM7 Windows 10 or 11?
@@CyberCPU Windows 10 pro
@@JRAM7 if I remember correctly, you need to right click on the plugin file and select properties. At the bottom of the properties window there should be a checkbook that allows you to trust the file.
Are you using an administrator account?
As of today, this is not working. After installing the plugin, it doesn't recognize the commander pro.
It works great. I just updated it today and still works. You need to follow all the steps in the guide.
i'm actually quite happy with this aorus x570s master. all the fan services aren't even coming up to 30mb of ram usage! :)
Sadly this doesn't seem to work anymore; the iCUE plugin is totally broken beyond use at this point and all Corsair products are deliberately discontinued by the dev. This functionality is essentially blocked at this point.
I'm still using it on my system and it works great. You can find a link to the plug-in in the description. Unfortunately the dev did pull the plug in but the version that I have linked in the description should still work.
@@CyberCPU Wanted to throw this out as I just discovered it on two of my systems. Put the .dll file in the "plugins" folder of the fancontrol app. Right click it and click properties. There was a verbage there stating "This .dll file came from another computer and is blocked for security.". Select "unblock". Restart computer. Bam, works again.
@@curtiscieslak2089 yes, I go over that in the video.
Do you need a friggin USB driver for Commander Core
Because iCUE is seeing my Corsair DDR RAM, but not my Commander Core, or mmy Comander XT.
I installed the Motherboard CHipset drivers and rebooted. No change. Just the RAM shows up as a device in iCUE. None of my fans or H150i water block rgb. I h8te3 this grrrbage so much... I've spent all week on this rubbish and I'm still looking at rainbow pvke.
40 celsius on CPU temp when idle is pretty hot, my CPU runs at 25-30c when idle.
Then again, i live in Norway, you know, the coldest place in the world? 🤣
This is unfortunately not working anymore, the Fan Control software does not initialise with the Commander PRO.
I just updated it today and it's still working great.
@@CyberCPU I get the could not initialise fans error when loading up the fan controller software....
@@richardmann5778 Getting the same thing
have you tried this with Signal RGB?
I believe I tried several RGB programs and wasn't really happy with any of them. I can't remember if I used that one specifically, but it rings a bell.
Sorry, it's been several months since I filmed this and don't remember the specifics. I'm still using the programs I talked about in the video.
signal rgb is awesome but a resource hog, defeats the purpose for me
@@nameless7958 can you explain what you mean exactly? It helps me with the research I’ve been doing.
anybody else use signal rgb? I like it but feel it uses a lot of power
Icue broke my 2 fan rgb and completely broke my corsair keyboard 4 days after installing the trash
why should anyone use it ? i would spend this money on better graphisc or hdd or cpu ..
Some people like RGB and some people don't. However, settings RGB aside, the Commander Pro is a great fan controller. Being able to independently control many fans is a great benefit. In fact with the right fan curves you could gain a considerable amount of performance.
huh... i want to install less bloatware. by doing this, we first need to install 2 more applications.. make that make sense lol
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th-cam.com/users/shortsDuvSetCdy1g this has 12 RGB fans
i like the fan control software, it even controls the fan power slowdown when stopping, you did not mention that, you can control it to wind down over time to cool down your aio.
Fusion 2.0 works better when system is turned off. Fusion 2.0 controls 1 of my 3 strimer rgb wires, my mb lighting, ram and m.2 lights. (is there a replacement i can use?
I use in this build commander pro, commander core, commander core xt.
commander pro might not be for everyone cause i got lucky for it not taken out my pc after i smelled smoke and how lucky i was not to lose anything but a fan that i had to replace where i never bought that ever again
I must be an idiot, watch your video and Jay 2cents. Regarding to fan control. Pc dose nothing when setting fan speeds.
That software looks worse than the cue software.
The fan controller software is way better. The RGB software isn't but it only needs to run when you want to change the RGB. It doesn't run all the time like iCue.
adm ryzen sucks....very slow
I have several Ryzen's and the last thing I would accuse them off is being slow. 😂🤣
@@CyberCPU -sslow booting...my inte i 5 hicks the Ryzen ass in proformance
@@DavidNationSr what Ryzen and what i5? There are 4 generations of Ryzen's in 4 different models and 12 generations of i5.
A 12 gen i5 is obviously going to be faster then a first gen Ryzen 3. However, a 4th generation Ryzen 5 will walk all over a 12 gen i5. So it depends a lot on what your comparing.
Should have watercooled a gt710
Is there anyway to, like disable fan control in icue and only use it for rgb? because i knoe when icue is running it interferes with fan control software and it doesn’t work then, but i really wanna use iCue for the rgb. would appreciate the help and thanks for that great video 🤌
you just answered your own question
Nope. ICue has to be uninstalled for this to work.