Have had ours now for 2 years. (Obsidian) List of issues we've had: -Liftgate failed after 2 weeks of ownership. -Passenger screen never works. -Rear screens randomly glitch and shut off. -Transmission fluid leak. -Burnt rubber hose that caused the engine to overheat. -Air suspension deflated. -Power steering broke at 40k miles. -The gauge cluster randomly blinks on and off. We now have 46k miles. No issues with the engine(6.4) Drives great and the seats are amazing. Lots of issues though cause its a Jeep. We will probably buy a Denali Ultimate Duramax next.
Joe, after watching so many of your reviews on large SUVs we decided to purchase a 2023 Wagoneer. It is sooooo nice, we love it and tow a 29ft travel trailer with it. Its amazing. People have very strong feelings about it but we love ours!
This dude works so hard for us. The fact that he still replies to comments with having over a million subs is amazing. You hardly ever see people with over a million subs replying to comments. He is authentic as they come. Don't ever switch up no matter how big you get!
If I was shopping for a luxury 3 row SUV this Grand Wagoneer would be my choice. The blacked out everything is very nice, the McIntosh sound system, the power, the interior...so much I like. Thank you Joe.
I'd agree the Grand Wagoneer is far better than the Navigator and Escalade but expensive. I was fortunate enough to spend a week in the Grand Wagoneer and everything about it's design and tech was amazing. The hurricane engine has plenty of power and is smooth and responsive. The seats and interior were out of this world. The only negative was the price, very expensive for an American SUV.
Another great review, Joe! WOW! Right out of the chute, Jeep did a bang-up job with the Grand Wagoneer, especially on the interior, very well done. I'm with you on all of the gloss black trim, though, it all gets quickly finger printed when touched, better keep a microfiber polishing cloth in your back pocket!
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with all the electrical , transmission etc etc etc.issues no way in hell i would touch a stellantis product............i dont care how beautiful it looks
Heard from so many people that this is a nightmare with quality issues starting with V6 engine. Plus $115K+ if you want it loaded as well. There’s gotta be reasons people don’t buy this and we don’t see this on the road often. At least here in SoCal.
I’ve owned a few Chrysler (now Stellantis) vehicles over the years and never had a problem with any of them. I’ve had Jeeps (Wrangler, Cherokee, Compass) Dodge ( Durango, Charger, Ram) and presently drive a Chrysler 300 AWD. GM, on the other hand, I will never buy another one due to the numerous problems I’ve had with them. (Camaro, 1/2 ton Silverado 4x4, Firebird, Skylark).
I have a 2018 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk and honestly, I think for the model year, it's got everything I could want out of a luxury suv for about 2/3 of the price.
As a vehicle itself, it's extremely compelling, but with the latest goings on at stellantis do not give me the confidence to buy a 100k vehicle from them...and they didn't have a good reputation before this, but now that it may end up Chinese owned and they are buying out warranties, not a good look.
The Grand Wagoneer did not exist in the 1960s. The Wagoneer was the original, the the upscale Super Wagoneer, In the early 1980s, there was the standard Wagoneer, and the upscale Wagoneer Limited with wood on the sides. Once the mid-size Cherokee Wagoneer were released, all full-size models became Grand Wagoneers, with wood on the sides.
That's why the dealership offers a Gloss Black Protection Package 1 and Gloss Black Protection Package 2, starting at $4499 and going up to $7999. Your dealer will add one of those for your convenience. Bring money.
I reallllly dislike sequential turn signals. It just looks dirty and unnecessary. Give me a nice clean on/off blink. But otherwise I do love the wagoneer, even if Stellantis is sabotaging itself overall.
Shout out to the hardest working man in the bidness!! Thanks Joe Lori and Steven for the content! Hard pass on the beast of a truck. Looks are deceiving for this Jeep
If this man don’t tell you about a car it must be not 💩 cuz he the best to do a review on a car he make you wanna go get a car knowing u ain’t got the money for it lol
Looks awesome! Just remember it’s a Chrysler product. Chrysler is not a luxury brand and I can’t believe people are paying that much for a jeep. There are hundreds just sitting on dealers lots because it’s not worth the money not to mention all the quality issues.That’s just my opinion but to each his own.
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication! I wish you all the best, so glad to see the success you’re having and happy to be a part of the Raiti’s rides community!
Interesting every major Suv Brand wants to compare to Lincoln. The locations is a Jaguar Land Rover Dealership.....Which Ford Lincoln used to own. Lol You can't beat Ford and Lincoln. Only GMC can compare now. I love it.
It’s really nice, but these suvs and trucks are ridiculously overpriced, they should not exceed 65 grand. All of these car brands need to start building more reliable cars.
Doesn't look a lick as luxury or Premium as a Lincoln Navigator. Also the Lincoln Navigator dusted the Wagoneer drag racing in many Car reviews. And wow gloss black everywhere lol
Have had ours now for 2 years. (Obsidian) List of issues we've had:
-Liftgate failed after 2 weeks of ownership.
-Passenger screen never works.
-Rear screens randomly glitch and shut off.
-Transmission fluid leak.
-Burnt rubber hose that caused the engine to overheat.
-Air suspension deflated.
-Power steering broke at 40k miles.
-The gauge cluster randomly blinks on and off.
We now have 46k miles. No issues with the engine(6.4) Drives great and the seats are amazing. Lots of issues though cause its a Jeep. We will probably buy a Denali Ultimate Duramax next.
Joe, after watching so many of your reviews on large SUVs we decided to purchase a 2023 Wagoneer. It is sooooo nice, we love it and tow a 29ft travel trailer with it. Its amazing. People have very strong feelings about it but we love ours!
I've heard horror stories about that vehicle. I'm glad things are going well with yours
Wow! Ground clearance. The running boards, the power, the hideous gas mileage. I love it! ❤❤❤
I love mine also
Sucker
This is a stately, luxurious ride, one could not go wrong choosing this over another ride in its class!
You are so very right about that Rick
R u sleeping at this dealership you have been everyday for a couple weeks lol
Gotta get the work done! 😎👍🏻
@@RaitisRides you are the best car TH-camr out there thank you for your hard work
You are doing a great analysis man 👨👍 this is a good project for real 😧
This dude works so hard for us. The fact that he still replies to comments with having over a million subs is amazing. You hardly ever see people with over a million subs replying to comments. He is authentic as they come. Don't ever switch up no matter how big you get!
That means the world to me! I can't do this without all of your support!
The jeep look so mean, so beautiful.
Death: "Whats wrong with hearses?" 🤣
Jeep managed to make one of the most beautiful suvs money can buy. Love it.
While being the most unreliable and problematic heap.
I’m so glad that you like this one Omar
@@truthserum5310it sucks they can’t get things straight!
We have almost 20k miles on ours. No issues
@@truthserum5310so I’ve heard
No mention of the night vision pedestrian and animal detection system? One of my fav features!
Needs the 6.4 V8 back.
Ehh. I’m a V8 guy. But the V8 that came in this car was super dated.
@@Panthers1521 the 6.4 could make over 500hp and 500tq with the proper intake and better cam. Same power as this grand wagoneer
This JLR dealership surely has a diverse inventory. That Cullinan @4:07 in the back next, Joe. 😎
Good eyes and you are so very right!
6 banging almost 600 hp, with 6500 ibz of weight and 5sec 0 to 60.… Impressive
Well done Jeep. I like it more than I expected. Awesome review Joe. 👍
This wagoneer is hot and with all that black makes it even HOTTER🔥‼️ I love the design of it!!
If I was shopping for a luxury 3 row SUV this Grand Wagoneer would be my choice. The blacked out everything is very nice, the McIntosh sound system, the power, the interior...so much I like. Thank you Joe.
That's the best third row I've ever seen in any SUV.
All of that gloss back will scratch like the Beasties Boys DJ.
I saw one of these in my neighborhood today. Gorgeous ❤❤❤
I'd agree the Grand Wagoneer is far better than the Navigator and Escalade but expensive. I was fortunate enough to spend a week in the Grand Wagoneer and everything about it's design and tech was amazing. The hurricane engine has plenty of power and is smooth and responsive. The seats and interior were out of this world. The only negative was the price, very expensive for an American SUV.
Joe and Lori and Steve keep up the good work real true and I love the video 👍
Best 3rd Row Seats ever Seen. Much love and respect Sir Rati from Pakistan
I would take this just the way it is!
It looks so good all blacked out
Another great review, Joe! WOW! Right out of the chute, Jeep did a bang-up job with the Grand Wagoneer, especially on the interior, very well done. I'm with you on all of the gloss black trim, though, it all gets quickly finger printed when touched, better keep a microfiber polishing cloth in your back pocket!
You are spot on with that comment about the polishing cloth.
Damn! At this price level it's a really good deal! Interior feels super premium!
Great review and Energy ! Thanks Dude !
You are so very welcome Tom! I am so glad that I can share it with you!
Better than the navigator imo but the dealership experience is severely lacking. At least with Lincoln and Cadillac, you have dedicated dealerships
Imagine spending over 100k on a JEEP that is notorious for electronics, transmission and engine issues lmao
Especially since it doesn't have a Hemi!!!
Imagine being rude because you’re jealous
@@Offically_Luke Imagine being dumb enough to think that.
This thing is a turd like all Jeeps.
Great review!
I appreciate you letting me share it with you
I enjoy your informative and amusing videos and I am a fan. I previously requested you comment on the new 2024 CLE 4 cylinder coupe. You have commented on the AMG but I greatly appreciate your comments and recommendations on the new 2024 CLE 4 cylinder coupe. Thank you keep up the great work.
I was in Clearwater a few weeks ago. These things were everywhere.
You are so right about that
Barf
Stellantis should call it the Junkwagon😎
You crack me up
@@RaitisRides Quality control is horrible
😂
Its beautiful
Joe you need to check the numbers, 0-60 it’s 5.9sec (not 4.5sec) and the asking price for that specific model is $104K (not $79K).
Me personally, my mom just bought a regular wagoner III, I like the way the gloss black looks, but it gets dirty fast.
Yes of course Joe and I will buy this one day.
She is big ! Seems like plenty of power for an FBI vehicle 😎🇺🇸
Its outselling the Escalade....Great Job Stellantis
Is that true? I haven't heard that anywhere.
@@RaitisRides you can go online and check the numbers
Apparently they haven’t seen the body cam 😂 such a nice respectful intake, surprised they didn’t door dash him some food!
You crack me up!
these used to have the 6.4 hemi, it sounded good and was pretty fast, I actually like these grand wagoneers more than i thought i would
Those days are long gone.
with all the electrical , transmission etc etc etc.issues no way in hell i would touch a stellantis product............i dont care how beautiful it looks
Heard from so many people that this is a nightmare with quality issues starting with V6 engine. Plus $115K+ if you want it loaded as well. There’s gotta be reasons people don’t buy this and we don’t see this on the road often. At least here in SoCal.
I’ve owned a few Chrysler (now Stellantis) vehicles over the years and never had a problem with any of them. I’ve had Jeeps (Wrangler, Cherokee, Compass) Dodge ( Durango, Charger, Ram) and presently drive a Chrysler 300 AWD. GM, on the other hand, I will never buy another one due to the numerous problems I’ve had with them. (Camaro, 1/2 ton Silverado 4x4, Firebird, Skylark).
@@robo08ify o agree GM is horrible never again with them
ADA stands for "American Disaster Motor" with Twin Turbo. THIS Jeep is well qualified for this title.
I see what you did there
Liking the infotainment center looks better than the Yukon Denali
I have a 2018 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk and honestly, I think for the model year, it's got everything I could want out of a luxury suv for about 2/3 of the price.
No way that's 79k it was over 110k last year
You right but this one is not new.
This is preowned
@@aircanadatv436you are correct
Buy one used, they depreciate like a mother bleep
Amazing how a 3 liter 6 cylinder engine can move a car of that size.
Not for long, that engine is stressed to the max. By 40-50K miles it will go ka-boom.
Is the obsidian better than series 3?
It should have been called, the 'Darth Vader ' package!
This one or defender?
As a vehicle itself, it's extremely compelling, but with the latest goings on at stellantis do not give me the confidence to buy a 100k vehicle from them...and they didn't have a good reputation before this, but now that it may end up Chinese owned and they are buying out warranties, not a good look.
The Grand Wagoneer did not exist in the 1960s. The Wagoneer was the original, the the upscale Super Wagoneer,
In the early 1980s, there was the standard Wagoneer, and the upscale Wagoneer Limited with wood on the sides. Once the mid-size Cherokee Wagoneer were released, all full-size models became Grand Wagoneers, with wood on the sides.
Love your car video
That's why the dealership offers a Gloss Black Protection Package 1 and Gloss Black Protection Package 2, starting at $4499 and going up to $7999. Your dealer will add one of those for your convenience. Bring money.
I reallllly dislike sequential turn signals. It just looks dirty and unnecessary. Give me a nice clean on/off blink. But otherwise I do love the wagoneer, even if Stellantis is sabotaging itself overall.
If you want a big, expensive stupid box then this is definitely a way to get it.
Don’t forget the built in sharpener in the Crayola 64 pack 😂😊
How the heck did I forget that
Can the second row seats come forward with a car seat in it
That is a great question.
I’m convinced you don’t sleep joe
Cadillac Escalade is the only true American luxury full size SUV in my opinion
they missed a great opportunity on the rear look
This seems like a great deal at 79K compared to what you get in other large SUVs. I would take one of these if I had the need.
This is so very true!
It's not $79k. MSRP over $100k. Should be able to negotiate it into the $90s, but not $79k.
I love the Jeep Wagoneer.
In the title it says it's a 2024 but you said 2023 when you were sitting in the car
That’s a nice Car
Shout out to the hardest working man in the bidness!! Thanks Joe Lori and Steven for the content! Hard pass on the beast of a truck. Looks are deceiving for this Jeep
Beautiful
If this man don’t tell you about a car it must be not 💩 cuz he the best to do a review on a car he make you wanna go get a car knowing u ain’t got the money for it lol
Oh wow Rashen! That is so fantastic of you to say.
Just came here for the comments. 😊
Looks awesome! Just remember it’s a Chrysler product. Chrysler is not a luxury brand and I can’t believe people are paying that much for a jeep. There are hundreds just sitting on dealers lots because it’s not worth the money not to mention all the quality issues.That’s just my opinion but to each his own.
Thanks for sharing your insight and perspective.
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication! I wish you all the best, so glad to see the success you’re having and happy to be a part of the Raiti’s rides community!
No this is a new American vehicle, we are going big in all American vehicles across the board ❤️🔥💫❤️🔥
Thanks for your input Edgar!
the 8 speed auto transmission is sourced from ZF...TorqueFlite HA!
That is the name Jeep gives it.
Do a another tesla model x
I look up grand wagoneer on jeep site and to build starting price is $91,000. Id buy that for $79,000. Where can i find it for $79,000?
I would rather see a bit of off road ability than speed testing. But what a nice vehicle!!!
And why exactly does a full size suv need a twin turbo setup?
Sounds like a ploy to get you into the service shop more
It is about generating enough power, drivability and efficiency
not a TorqueFlite transmission its a ZF 8 speed
Ready to see a redesigned Dodge Durango, hope it’s crisp like the new jeeps
It will be interesting to see what Dodge does.
I would take this over the dated looking Lexus LX! At least the interior looks modern and with this obsidian package the exterior isn’t so polarizing!
Interesting every major Suv Brand wants to compare to Lincoln. The locations is a Jaguar Land Rover Dealership.....Which Ford Lincoln used to own. Lol You can't beat Ford and Lincoln. Only GMC can compare now. I love it.
79K? are you sure you got the price right?
yes that is the asking price
It's at a jaguar dealership, so used.
Can we get an answer to the question in the title? You have driven all the full size SuVs. Would u go wagoner,Yukon,navigator???
Has Jeeps’ reliability deteriorated over the last 20 years or so? I.E. I heard the Wrangler is not what it used to be. Your thoughts please.
79K ???
The Jeep Wagoneer has a horrible history of mechanical problems.
its the new grand caravan. looks better w/o the chrome on top of the windows
I see what you did there!
A vehicle that big should come with 24 inch wheels
This is a very good point!
Jeep looks amazing but it's flagged with electrical issues. Most people I know who bought wagons have traded for ford or gm
You are not the first to say that Adam!
It’s really nice, but these suvs and trucks are ridiculously overpriced, they should not exceed 65 grand. All of these car brands need to start building more reliable cars.
That is faster then most sport car in the 90s 😂
This is so very true!
@@RaitisRides Lamborghini Diablo zero to 60 is 4.3 second and this huge jeep does 4.5 seconds. Sound crazy 🤪 thinking about it
Based on the flatform of dodge Durango.
Negative.
Ram 1500
This vehicle lost so much value after my test drive, I had to roll over the negative equity to even sign the deal😢
We need Jeep Grand wagoneer reliable 4x4.
That would be nice if they could just do that.
If it was $79k, it’s an insta buy. Unfortunately that’s inaccurate. The Obsidian starts at $117k 🤮
$79k ? More like $127k🤷🏼
Not for this one.
@@RaitisRides oh, it was used. Sorry. If brand new at that price I’d pick one up today.
It's a beautiful vehicle, I just cannot comprehend people spending that kind of money on a Jeep/Dodge.
Wow idol
JEEP 👍
Doesn't look a lick as luxury or Premium as a Lincoln Navigator. Also the Lincoln Navigator dusted the Wagoneer drag racing in many Car reviews. And wow gloss black everywhere lol
Crass is the best way to describe this monstrosity.
Munstermobile for the 21st century !
Fantastic looking car but one of the most unreliable cars on the roads
I wish they could fix that.
Needs 6.4L HEMI and $20.000 less and i will buy one.