I think it's a technicality that BMW used to get out of paying for his engine. First services are expensive oil changes that mfgs require of consumers as a reward to their dealers. Ever see car mfgs require such nonsense? It's just tradition in the motorcycle industry. If his engine blew up "giving it beans" at 400 miles, it would have blown up at 600 miles with beans too. Now if there was a code thrown that indicated something catastrophic with the engine that he ignored, that would be reasonable grounds for denial, but it's not like techs tear apart and inspect engine internals at the 600 mile service. If the computer didn't catch something, the oil changer wouldn't either. We used to have a Honda motorcycle mfg plant in Ohio. I toured it. Guess what the last step of the process was before crating up the bikes? If you guessed putting them on a dyno and banging them off the rev limiter, you win!
HI wingsgeo 100% agree that even I understand Mani being upsetting and feel for him, he did the servicing himself and he isn't a qualified mechanic and removed the run-in rev limiter with just 10miles more than the lowest at 360, BMW says 350 -700 then changed motor temperature and mapped , changed air intake, exhaust on the bike and not being a qualified mechanic wow what dose he expect, he changed just about everything I thought wow!!! you have destroyed that bike , he thinks he know more than BMW engineers he was just trying to sell parts $$$$ I really hope a lot of people didn't follow his lead or there will be a lot of sad BMW owners truly if he did that to his V4R, I bet Ducati would give him the finger as well or any manufacturer I have the same bike as yourself with titanium arrow headers and leo vince short muffler put on by BMW dealer and BMW tuned the air and fuel a bit and it runs ❤❤
100 percent agree. I feel for him and it is not a good situation all around but bashing the OEM does not help anyone and won’t earn the good will of BMW possibly. By the end of the day he did some shortcuts and he should own up to it.
I have worked for BMW for 8 years. And there is no other manufacturer with more recalls. Go figure....but that said. They are very generous when it comes to warranty, even when expired, they are very generous with goodwill payments or rebates.
He did not follow the manufacturer's requirement for break-in and 1st service, also he is not an approved BMW technician, as he may think, so should not have done 1st service himself, nor turned off rev limiter...should have had his BMW dealer or his BMW tech in Cleveland do the service. Then...He blew up his engine trying to dyno tune a bike that is not even broken in properly, now he is but hurt and wants to bash manufacturer for not allowing a warranty claim. I think he is trying to use his TH-cam influence to leverage BMW into changing their decision, which is another A$$Hole move on his part. These TH-camrs who think there're high level bike technicians are really hilarious...they throw on a bunch of bolt-on aftermarket parts and try to justify themselves as MotoGp mechanics and racers...ridiculous.
You got a follow the brake in procedures & take to the dealer for service to stay in warranty & so there's a record of it too at Dealership.This way you're covered. HE should if taken bike back at 8miles when bike threw codes instead of riding it & fixing it at unauthorized dealer & then chucking it on dyno with only 400miles when run in us 600miles.I wouldn't of put bike on a dyno till it done atleast 1000miles.A bike like that doesn't need anything done to it really.
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Well said.. great conclusion
I think it's a technicality that BMW used to get out of paying for his engine. First services are expensive oil changes that mfgs require of consumers as a reward to their dealers. Ever see car mfgs require such nonsense? It's just tradition in the motorcycle industry.
If his engine blew up "giving it beans" at 400 miles, it would have blown up at 600 miles with beans too.
Now if there was a code thrown that indicated something catastrophic with the engine that he ignored, that would be reasonable grounds for denial, but it's not like techs tear apart and inspect engine internals at the 600 mile service. If the computer didn't catch something, the oil changer wouldn't either.
We used to have a Honda motorcycle mfg plant in Ohio. I toured it. Guess what the last step of the process was before crating up the bikes? If you guessed putting them on a dyno and banging them off the rev limiter, you win!
Agreed, I bet BMW turned him down on technicality ...
That's life no good crying it happens
It’s a lose lose situation. I do get his side but I can also imagine where bmw draws the line.
HI wingsgeo
100% agree that even I understand Mani being upsetting and feel for him, he did the servicing himself and he isn't a qualified mechanic and removed the run-in rev limiter with just 10miles more than the lowest at 360, BMW says 350 -700 then changed motor temperature and mapped , changed air intake, exhaust on the bike and not being a qualified mechanic
wow what dose he expect, he changed just about everything I thought
wow!!! you have destroyed that bike , he thinks he know more than BMW engineers
he was just trying to sell parts $$$$
I really hope a lot of people didn't follow his lead or there will be a lot of sad BMW owners
truly if he did that to his V4R, I bet Ducati would give him the finger as well or any manufacturer
I have the same bike as yourself with titanium arrow headers and leo vince short muffler put on by BMW dealer and BMW tuned the air and fuel a bit and it runs ❤❤
100 percent agree. I feel for him and it is not a good situation all around but bashing the OEM does not help anyone and won’t earn the good will of BMW possibly. By the end of the day he did some shortcuts and he should own up to it.
I have worked for BMW for 8 years. And there is no other manufacturer with more recalls. Go figure....but that said. They are very generous when it comes to warranty, even when expired, they are very generous with goodwill payments or rebates.
Agreed, something just does not add up.
He did not follow the manufacturer's requirement for break-in and 1st service, also he is not an approved BMW technician, as he may think, so should not have done 1st service himself, nor turned off rev limiter...should have had his BMW dealer or his BMW tech in Cleveland do the service. Then...He blew up his engine trying to dyno tune a bike that is not even broken in properly, now he is but hurt and wants to bash manufacturer for not allowing a warranty claim. I think he is trying to use his TH-cam influence to leverage BMW into changing their decision, which is another A$$Hole move on his part. These TH-camrs who think there're high level bike technicians are really hilarious...they throw on a bunch of bolt-on aftermarket parts and try to justify themselves as MotoGp mechanics and racers...ridiculous.
Funny part is , how much more than 210hp do you really need … ;)
You got a follow the brake in procedures & take to the dealer for service to stay in warranty & so there's a record of it too at Dealership.This way you're covered.
HE should if taken bike back at 8miles when bike threw codes instead of riding it & fixing it at unauthorized dealer & then chucking it on dyno with only 400miles when run in us 600miles.I wouldn't of put bike on a dyno till it done atleast 1000miles.A bike like that doesn't need anything done to it really.
there are a few red flags here ...