BMW M 1000 R vs. Ducati Streetfighter V4 S - Test in the Alps
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- The top level of naked bikes has now reached an incredible 210 horsepower, with the BMW M 1000 R now defining the end of the food chain. However, Ducati's Streetfighter V4 S is anything but weak-chested with 208 horsepower. Both are capable of brute performance, especially on the racetrack - but are these hyper-nakeds also suitable for the super narrow roads in the Alps, or can they hardly run there for sheer power?
00:00 Intro
02:55 Riding Experiences BMW M 1000 R
03:38 Riding Experiences Ducati Streetfighter V4 S
06:05 Conclusion on the Ducati Streetfighter V4 S
06:54 Conclusion on the BMW M 1000 R
07:48 Outro
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The M1000R is an amazing bike and stunning looking!!
Awesome side-by-side of two absolutely amazing machines. The roar of the V-4 though 😎
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing.
Fantastic! Thanks for sharing.
Looks vs power? Ducati has both
The M1000R makes more in the midrange with the shift cam technology. But you’re right. That 1100 V4 is 👌🏼👌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼
@RadDadisRad trust me I'd take either of them lol, I'm just a ducati/triumph fan boy
@@radicalkonrad765 I have to agree, I have a 24 765 RS, I'm looking at getting a Streetfighter V4 or a V4S.
The bmw has both too😂
In terms of power, Bmw m1000r wins, but in terms of beauty, Ducati Street fighter undoubtedly wins.
I loved the Street fighter, but then I chose m1000r instead of Street fighter.
Can't wait to see what the 1390 SDR brings to the table...😍😍😍
Good review. Tested both bikes near Grenoble on mountain roads. The SFV4s has the electronic suspension that can be set to road mode. With the road mode the ride is really plush vs. the BMW even on roads with bad surface. The ride was rougher on the same roads with the BMW.
Absolute madness referring to the sound of the Ducati as problematic or needing to be toned down. Go straight then left then left again and exit immediately
These are the two bikes I have been looking at buying. It gets really hot in St. Louis, MO with a lot of humidity. My Monster throws a lot of heat. I was curious as to the temperature differential between the two when riding.
V4 shuts off rear cylinders under 4k revs or idle, so you’ll nut roast your nuts 👍
A lot of questionable conclusions in this video.
bmw is best for old people who need cruise control and other comforts, ducati is best for people who only care about performance. its science, the v4 format shits on everything else.
All of that performance is worthless if you don’t go on a track though. You can’t experience it’s full potential on the streets. So that’s something to consider.
I have owned the SFV4S, recently purchased the M1000R... the only reason why I bought the M1000R because I test rode it.
The M1000R is so much better than the SFV4S in every category. My M1000R came with the following as standard... 5 year warranty, 3 year roadside care, all the creature comforts that a modern motorcycle should have, better fuel mileage etc. etc. etc.
R u and your concerns are jokes?
Go watch some actual reviews, the M1000R is sadly a gazillion times inferior to the Ducati. Regarding the suspension, brakes, bar&peg vibrations and the existent instability in corners.. The only actual PRO's are the better price, lower fuel consumption, having an actual fuel gauge and having cruise control..
Some Italian reviewers did a thorough research of all the top naked bikes right now.. the Ducati came clearly on top, it is the best overall package requiring the least amount of intervention for a normal user. Can't say that about the M1000R. th-cam.com/video/EFXMaosuoRQ/w-d-xo.html
Some even say BMW's lack soul, that's a matter of the owner I'd say.
@@tsarnevits “a gazillian times inferior” lol ok. Unless you are going to be continuously riding on the track, the m1000r is the better option for riding on the street.
I owned the SFV4S for 2 years, i liked the bike !! Fast and loud ( i had the full akrapovic installed ) but i didn't like the sound of the engine.
I sold and bought a 2023 S1000R Sport, Installed the full akrapovic with short slip on and im sooooo happy, i loved the bike !!!! 🏍🏍😍😍
Agreed. I love the inline 4 sound wayy better.
which has the better fueling? Which is the more well rounded of the 2?
It all depends on your riding style. If you're too aggressive, then expect your fuel consumption to drop dramatically. As far as well-rounded, that goes to the BMW. It has every single safety feature that you will ever need on the road. Plus, unlike the Ducati, the BMW has a fuel Guage.
I said fueling (throttle) not fuel consumption @@thegentleman90
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Technically you should be comparing the V4Sp to the M . It also has same price and carbon wheels. But way better brakes .
Without seeing this video first, I might have gone with the Ducati. Having a bike with full Ohlins suspension is great. However, having too loud of an exhaust would severely take away the enjoyment.
Years ago I had the first of the Panigale series.
Got to the point where I didn’t enjoy riding it because of the too loud cam chain/gear setup
i do not think the SF V4 is too loud copared too the 1199 panigale. In my opinion it is perfect
M1000r more nimble and Streetfighter more raw an brutal motor ✊🔥🔥
Really gotta put the v4 in gear when reving, two cylinders are turned off when in neutral…totally different sound!
The Motorrad is making some fantastic bikes these days.
If you're considering a litre bike for the mountains then you're leaving a lot of the performance in the valley cos that redline isn't going to be bothered too much when you have the sort of power any litre super-naked produces, let alone the M1000R. Having spent years riding litre bikes in the Alps it was riding a 765RS and then 890 DukeR that wakened me to less is more. The 890 in particular has the torque and electronics to make hairpin after hairpin a joy, not a balancing act. Yes my M1000R is probably quicker overall, but even fine tuning the electronics that warp drive is a handful on such small roads. Plus, less than one week will destroy a set of tyres in the mountains on the M1000R (ask me how I know), that's an expensive bike to run on tyres alone.
Great Comment and insight - thanks for sharing. Riding the Alps is a buck list trip for me, I absolutely cant wait to make it happen.
Its true. First season on my M1000R was three sets of tyres. Gets kind of expensive.
@@Nanayaah1 I know how you feel. I have 2600 all-road miles on my MR and about finished off the third set before I parked her for winter. Just over 600 for the OEM tyres, which given the OEM spec that's fair, 1100 for the second set which were Diablo 4's and 900 for the next set of Diablo 4's (I was trying harder). I have enough to ride her to the tyre shop for replacements, but not much else. I couldn't only own a litre bike and ride the mountains, it's just too expensive, hence also having an 890 which is a fantastic mountain bike.
@@willbalkovec2631 the sun on your back, hairpin after hairpin as the air gets colder and the views more and more substantial as you climb up ever higher, with the noise of the bike bouncing off the mountain walls; it never gets old, even if we do.
Imagine if the ducati decided to “fck that,let’s put the v4R engine in our streetfighter”
Your negative for the BMW is price. However, you choose to test the competition version of the BMW with all its bling. Surely the equivalent Ducati is the Streetfighter SP2, in that case??? The standard BMW 1000R is 5K cheaper and performs no different to the competition version, on the road. It would have been a better comparison and much cheaper than the V4S. Just my opinion 🤔
Agree that the Street Triple RS would be ideal. Maybe its just my perception but in the video it seemed like the Ducati was a lot rougher and slower to maneuver in a tight apex
I once owned a KTM 890 Duke, which I think it is very similar with Street Triple 765 RS. However, it simply doesn't stand up to the S1000R. The S1000R makes it incredibly easy to lean over the curves, more stable in any situations, and of course it boasts significantly more power. Interestingly, the M1000R weighs the same as the Street Triple 765. However, I must admit that I am not a fan of the pricing for the S1000R.
@gheorghevlad3889 are you sure it weighs the same as a street triple? They're pretty light as it
I have a 2024 Street Triple 765 RS and it’s barely above 400 pounds wet. I don’t think the BMW is that close in weight to the Street Triple.
I don't think either is too loud stock. They both have to pass strict sound emission tests before leaving the factory.
Yea. But i agree with the 7am cold start. Its definitely louddd.
@@Voondiazlouder the better
The Duc is 83db at idle and still below 100db at 5000rpm so wtf are you talking about it being loud?
Tell me you’re biased without telling me you’re biased.
What’s crazy is the BMW with a full race exhaust will make over 200hp to the tire. 🤯
Is this an AI produced video?? It sounds and feels like it. The way some all of the thoughts/words are delivered 👎
I’m sure it is😂
For that $$$ I went full superbike Panigale V4s!! The whole point of a necked street fighter is comfort, and in this category I might go M1000r!!
The MV Agusta Brutale 1000RR is missing from this test.
Actually the V4 SP2 and the 1390 SDR Evo are missing from the test.
Too loud 😂
Try it with a full Akrapovic system 😎
As for slight vibrations on the M, you're way off, the vibrations are so severe that it was the main reason i couldn't own an M1000R. The one i rode felt like it didn't have the mid range punch of the Ducati. 🤔
The M1000R is the motorcycle version of the R35 GTR when it came out. It’s really good but lacks soul/character.
Too loud 😂 and all those guys spending thousands to increase the loudness with 3rd party pipes. I think stock sounds AMAZING!! I agree it’s loud , but, come on, it’s beautiful sounding.
Those license plates are ridiculous
It’s rider ability you missed from that open line.
Both great bikes ! Those Euro license plates are an abomination 👎
For a sec, i thought one of the host was David Guetta 💀
Ich hoffe ihr bleibt in Zukunft deutsch und das ist nur ein Versuch den englischen Sprachraum hu erreichen
Whats funny is how peoples opinions differe. I road these back to back. And you had have to pay me to take the BMW over the Ducati. The ducati brakes sre better, the ohlins feel better. The chassis feels more stable. The engine produces massive ammounrs if power immediately, the BMW diesnt feek like it struggles, but ut feeks like 600 down low and has a nasty power dip in the mud range. The elecrtronics were over complicated. The BMW fekt much more cramped to ride, and thr engint vibration is atrocious for a modern day buke. Damn near old school 2 strokr level at speed. Dont get me wrofn thehre both brilliant. But ducati just gas it mire refined. I currently iwn a Streetfighter v2 and triumph spewd triple 1200rs. The v2 is going away for a v4
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The BMW is the only option...Ducati is old news...and mean on specification.
I nearly bought the Streetfighter but No fuel gauge and one of the worst fuel consumptions in the category and the engine heat was a deal breaker for me unfortunately. For the amount of money, in 2024, FFS Ducati include a fuel gauge with give it better consumption, smh.
wo ist der sound 😂
S1000R is the best naked motorcycle on the market now.
Depends on use, I would argue for these types of roads a Street Triple 765 RS would be the best naked, can use more of its power and it’s lighter
@@theincrediblesulk5543 I once owned a KTM 890 Duke, which I think it is very similar with Street Triple 765 RS. However, it simply doesn't stand up to the S1000R. The S1000R makes it incredibly easy to lean over the curves, more stable in any situations, and of course it boasts significantly more power. Interestingly, the M1000R weighs the same as the Street Triple 765. However, I must admit that I am not a fan of the pricing for the S1000R.
@@theincrediblesulk5543 I once owned a KTM 890 Duke, which I think it is very similar with Street Triple 765 RS. However, it simply doesn't stand up to the S1000R. The S1000R makes it incredibly easy to lean over the curves, more stable in any situations, and of course it boasts significantly more power. Interestingly, the M1000R weighs the same as the Street Triple 765. However, I must admit that I am not a fan of the pricing for the S1000R.
The 765RS is a superb bike, having owned two. But for these Alpine roads the riding position and greater torque of the KTM 890 DukeR has arguably some advantages over the Triumph. Of the two I prefer the 890 simply for the better thrust off corners and slightly more upright riding position to manhandle the bike in slow hairpins and the quick direction changes on compact roads. @@theincrediblesulk5543
No I think V4s like Streetfighter and Tuono 1100 Factory are superior. BMW has cheap components (No Brembos or Öhlins), the Aprilia and Ducati have full Bosch, Brembo and Öhlins. The BMW M looks cheap with Playstation graphics kit, ugly dull looking headlight and cheap blue painted Nissen brakes. $38K for a brand that are total failures on the world stage of racing in WSBK. They're getting killed by Ducati. The V4s give you the mid-range power and superior torque launch off the line.
Are you like afraid of a little sound coming from bikes? Geez
The Ducati SF looks fine but too much like a fast scooter from the front end. Prettier but prefer the bmw m looks
Ducati biensur
Bad pilot !!!!
BMW Playmobil motorcycle versus Ducati master designer motorcycle. I don't have to think about it for long, I'm going to scrap the BMW, who wants such a boring, ugly motorcycle
The BMW is ugly compared to the last generation