The Master reveal is so satisfying to watch when the person doesn't know it's coming. The BBC kept teasing his appearance all season with trailers. It really ruined the surprise for a lot of people.
The BBC revealed him due to one of the papers threatening to spoil his return. However, even though I knew that the John Simm was coming back, I didn't clue in that he was Razor until right near the end when he was talking with Missy.
This two-part finale is not just the best Cybermen story of Modern Who, but one of the best Cybermen stories ever. These two episodes offer the perfect examination into what makes the Cybermen a true threat; 'World Enough and Time' shows us the grotesque body horror, while 'The Doctor Falls' shows us how truly relentless and never-ending they are. Bringing back the original 1966 Mondasian versions was a stroke of genius by Steven Moffat, taking what can be considered a ridiculous old design and making it sting, and that design is probably now my favourite Cyberman design alongside the 80's versions. Also, bringing back John Simm's Master and pairing him with Michelle Gomez's Missy was a great bonus. This was a great start to Capaldi's final adventure.
Shitty TH-cam Account For the first time in three series, I think the second part of the finale was also great. For me, Death in Heaven was a massive step down from Dark Water and Hell Bent was a massive step down from Heaven Sent, so it was nice for The Doctor Falls to be *almost* as good as World Enough and Time.
Ryan Pollard Interesting story about that, Peter Capaldi wanted to face off with the Mondasian Cyberman, possibly even have his final story with them, and Moffat only agreed out of respect for Peter’s wishes. It just so happens that when handed that original design, Moffat thought they looked ridiculous and realized that he needed to pull out all the stops to make them genuinely intimidating and so we wound up with one of the all-time best. Which says to me that Moffat really needs people to bounce ideas off of because whenever he’s challenged he excels.
@@UltimateKyuubiFox "Which says to me that Moffat really needs people to bounce ideas off of because whenever he’s challenged he excels. " That's the case for a lot of really talented writers and idea people. It's always a good thing to have at least two or three people around to bounce ideas off of because they can pull in stuff if it's too far out there or maybe spark a new idea and be there to help you flesh it out.
@@callumocreary1253 They did it to entice the audience to watch. If they didn't, less people would have watched it, so less money for them. They were desperate. Avengers Endgame on the other hand didn't need to give spoilers in the trailers because they knew people would watch it.
@@hornguy04 They spoiled it at the start of the series, with a "This Series On Doctor Who" trailer at the end of _The Pilot._ And then they did it again at the end of the previous episode.
It's so great when Razor says "It was a clever lie, but you see straight through me" and "Is burgling mask. [...] You see through my clever disguise" especially when people don't recognize Simm (which included me on first viewing).
Adam Abrams I knew it was Simm straight away not because The BBC announced his return but because I know That's the type of disguise The Master would have had during Classic Who
I was not spoiled on this and was freaking out when he talks to bill about the time difference cause the background music is the masters theme from ten except without the four beats
I've been waiting since this story came out to see someone who didn't know the Cybermen or Simm would be in this story to react to it, and you did not disappoint.
94830 086436 here’s another reaction channel who didn’t know: th-cam.com/video/79A0q9WsBtQ/w-d-xo.html Luckily for me I live in the US so I didn’t get spoiled.
You freaking out during this reaction was everything. From Bill getting shot to you freaking out about the Cybermen's return to you dying at that John Simm reveal. This was amazing! And I'm ready for the next episode and not ready at the same time. This is truly one of the best Cybermen stories ever. It's everything I wanted, especially the horrors of the Cybermen being uncovered.
Reestapha they have been doing that since Series 1 they shouldn't have included The Daleks in The Bad Wolf next time trailer or before Series 4 aired announcing Rose is returning
It was unfortunate that the BBC included footage of simm in the press trailer. They chose to announce simms involvement as the sun said they were going to put it in print so bbc beat them to it.
I was lucky to avoid the spoilers and had this reaction myself, I was so bummed when I went online after and found that most people were spoiled. Glad she wasn't!
Jess has the uncanny ability to avoid spoilers which makes for some of the most memorable WHO reactions. And she just added to that great collection. I'm so excited for her to see the series 10 finale .....
It was called a conversion “theatre” as surgery is performed in “operating theatres” in the UK not OR’s. Stemming from when surgery was in its infancy and was a spectacle to be watched....awesome reaction btw... how we all should have reacted to the master had it not been spoiled waaay before broadcast! :)
Totally agree. All season I was waiting for the Master to pop up and it wasn't until the penultimate episode. Could've been arguably the best reveal in Nu Who if it wasn't for the Beeb spoiling it in the trailer.
Not for me, by that time I had forgot he was going to be in it. So I had the same reactions as hers except there were a whole lot of WTF's flying around LOL
America has them too. TV and film has shown this. The incident with Kramer on Seinfeld, Lisa assisting Dr. Nick, Young Doctors In Love (comedy a la Naked Gun)...
@John 'Sepp' Schiltz Those two were amazing. Grew up watching them. Always felt a bit sad for Simms Master. He always felt like comic relief rather than an actual equal to The Doctor. Until this episode. This was right up there with Classic Who Master.
I’ve never understood the appeal of reaction videos till I discovered your channel. Lovely to see sincere reactions from someone going in without spoilers. Genuinely been soo excited to see this one.
TARDISELLIOT TRAILERS from what I gather she tries to avoid spoilers as much as possible...tho there’s a few things she knew beforehand but for the most part, it’s all genuine first-time reactions
Unfortunately, a lot of 'reaction' videos are either people grossly overreacting, or just watching the video silently without interacting with the camera. Jess is one of the few who gets it just right. Sincere reactions be it good or bad, while maintaining the 'shared viewing' experience via quips, comments, or just making faces at the camera. It's a shame she's now caught up, but here's hoping for more Classic Who reactions (Tomb of The Cyberman, maybe?)
John Simm in this episode was more like the traditional character of the master from classic Who - particularly Roger Delgado. I never liked him in RTD era, and I really loved him in this finale. Such a shame he was not able to play the master like this previously. Interesting to read in other comments Simm did not like his character under RTD. Makes sense, as actually he could have been brilliant playing it like this.
In the RTD era Simm's Master felt like Ainley in overdrive(which is I guess impressive given Ainley was already that way it seems), in Moffatt era agreed he comes off more Delgado like.
Your reaction to the Master reveal was PRICELESS! I think it's your most extreme yet! Peter Capaldi told Steven Moffat that the original Mondasian Cybermen were his dream choice of villain, and Moffat obliged here. John Simms told Moffat several years ago he would love to come back as the Master sometime, and here we are! You are SO going to love the next two episodes, Can't wait to see (and hear!) your reactions...!
I knew that we knew he was coming back but the eyes for me and the smile gave it away from the first nano second didn't stop the enjoyment as it added an extra layer to wondering how he would be revealed and what his plan was. I was shocked how many it duped! :-)
I cannot state enough how much I love John Simm's Master in this. Such a monumental improvement over the giggling lunatic from the Tennant stories, showing he can be a fantastic actor and character when not written terribly
@James Roper This is why Steven Moffat us a better writer than RTD. When you think about it he wrote 9s best stories, 10s best stories and John Simm at his best.
This reaction really shows how much better this episode would have been if the BBC and other news networks didn't keep spoiling things like the cybermen and John Simm returning.
I HATED the fact BBC ruined the surprise of Simm's Master coming back. If would have been an incredible twist and surprise. This next episode is a masterpiece.
"And it was the Genesis of the Cybermen, and a Two Masters team-up, and Missy got to be awesome at playing 'Dr Who', and the music and the direction were amazing, and - oh, Auntie Em... it was all such a strange dream!"
Idc if I'm the only one but so far on s11 I miss Moffat's writing... I don't know, despite its faults it had a... kind of magical vibe that I loved about his era... (yeah I'm in the nostalgic viiiibe)
Nora Girl I’m getting used to it .. I have liked the episodes to varying degrees but the show feels more closer to RTD and maybe even some more Classic Who in there aswell rather then Moffat’s dark fairytale style
Despite the blogs and critics trying to say that s11 is "the best in years!" (they probably feel like they have to say it to please Twitter), so far It's 2 duds and 1 hit for me. I like the new visual style and Jodie is fine....but I too miss Moffat's "fairytale" writing style. Unpopular opinion, I know, but who cares? I guess I'll adjust.
There'll always be people who miss RTD's writing, there'll always be people who miss Moffat's writing. In 10 years time, there'll be people who'll always miss Chibnall's writing. That's the joy of the show. It's constant yet temporary at the same time as it flies through different eras.
That thumbnail/scene is one of the reasons I've been waiting for this reaction video! Fun fact: John Simm grew the gotee as an homage/tribute to the Classic Who version of the character. ;)
It is a bit sad that you're catching up-it's been so fun to re-experience the episodes as you watch them. Presumably you'll do Series 12 whenever that happens, but that will be near-simultaneous, and that's a very different (yet also worthwhile) thing to watch. It will also be nice not to have to worry so much about spoilers, though, so there's that :)
Yeah, you at the end of this video sums it up. This episode was kinda shear terror to me, totally horrified me, but when it was over I just looked back and started gushing about all the little details that made it sooooo good. Capaldi's run for me is a little lack luster, but man are there a few gems that are just head and shoulders above anything else in the series, and this is one of them.
Wow uploaded 13 seconds ago. Ahh, the reaction we all wish we could’ve had. Frantically typing this before I watch lol. The BBC announcing/spoiling The Master’s return 3 months prior to the broadcast of this episode was such a stupid move which made zero sense. They officially announced it because The Sun threatened to spoil it. But the only reason The Sun knew about it in the first place was because Simm was in the “coming soon” trailer which aired at the end of a press preview screening of The Pilot (and was also at the end of the broadcasted version). So if they hadn’t put him in the trailer, The Sun (and everybody else) would’ve been none the wiser. Hell, John Simm was filming in public in Cardiff (in full prosthetics) and NOBODY clocked on that it was him. This could’ve been a massive surprise and I can’t think of any logical reason for announcing his return. Maybe to bring back fans who haven’t watched the show since 2010? The viewing figures for Series 10 were still the lowest of all 10 series and pretty poor, so I don’t think announcing his return had any major affect on the viewing figures. Rant over. You probably knew all this by know lol. Great reaction (I assume) nonetheless :)
I bought the season pass on iTunes when the first episode of the season came out (something I’ve also done for the newest season). Luckily for me I live in America and didn’t follow the BBC on any social media so it came as a complete surprise to me.
I live in Canada, and we got spoiled. In the "Next time on" after the season premier, they showed clips of the Mondasian Cybermen, and The Master. So we knew he would show up at some point that season. So when the final story started, I knew they both had to show up. Watching a pure reaction was amazing.
18:34 Dr Who fans coming to the end of 'Earthshock' Part 1 in 1982. We could all have had the same reaction as Jess if it weren't for the press leaks and spoilery trailers.
Your excitement over this episode at the end almost made me forget my sadness over the upcoming end of Twelve, so that was great :D Your thoughts there I think summed up some themes about this episode (and Bill and Twelve and the rest of the gang) very nicely. I had a feeling you'd love this one. Because outside of just being a very well-written episode, it has 1) Missy, 2) Cybermen and 3) Twists that you hadn't been spoiled on. Which was lucky, most of us where, since the BBC decided to put John Simm in the series 10 trailer. Still bitter over that, so I'm living the surprise through reactions. As always, people have SO MANY OPINIONS about Doctor Who, but I love this episode to bits. It immediately made its way up into my top 10 episodes. While I'm still sad that it's nearly caught up (it is a bit different to be caught up, as you say), I'm really looking forward to the next couple of weeks. Hope you feel better soon!
I sincerely believe that the John Simms's Master was much better written by Moffat than by Davies. SPOILER ALERT! SPOILER ALERT! SPOILER ALERT! If BBC had not reveal the return of the John Simm's Master and the Mondasians Cybermen, this amazing episode would have shocked New Who's fans in the same way that "Earthshock" shocked Classic Who fans in the 1980s.
Completely agree! I find it amazing how Moffat managed to write Simm's Master so much better, whilst not changing the character from his appearance in the RTD era and simultaneously keeping his character different from Missy's.
I work very hard to miss spoilers and it was a perfect episode. I'd worked out it was going to be Cybermen from the first time you hear the voice (when they retrieved Bill from the bridge, I think) but the Mondasian-look was a complete surprise. I'd also picked up that there was something odd about Mr Razor but I had no clue it was the Master until he started talking to Missy.
(Spoilers) Personally, I'd differentiate between the Series 3 and 2008 - 2010 Specials Master. The latter went a bit too over-the-top for me, at least in the performance. I can't remember enough about the way he was written as a character but his situation (revived by magic?, has superpowers? needs to eat people?) wasn't handled particularly well. However, I think he's great in Series 3. He's OTT but also grounded and believable, and I think his character is given a lot in the writing. And he even has those deeper moments in the latter; it's just hard to ignore the unexplained (seemingly random) situational things. Whereas in Series 10, I don't think he's given very much as a character. He's evil and sexist and that's about it. If you prefer the calmer approach as a portrayal (I'm guessing that's the case but please do correct me if not), fair enough. I quite dislike there are two versions as there's a distinct disconnect there but I can understand fundamentally preferring one over the other. However, I feel there is a layered depth to RTD's version that we don't see in Moffat's.
this must have been one of your most animated reactions to a doctor who ep, 2 huge leaps from the sofa and considering you stated that you was feeling under the weather, "I think you need a doctor" seems a totally appropriate quote. Bring on "the doctor falls"
Eleven and Twelve are two of my favorites too. Eleven is my fav though by a very small margin, because he made me fall in love with the show, so he holds a very special place in my heart. Capaldi though man, I never though I'd like him soooo much. After watching season 10, I watched his series 'The Thick of It' and I swear I'm a fan of Capaldi's. He is criminally underrated. Please watch The Thick of It. Its an amazing series.
I loved being on this journey with you. I know doctor who like the back of my hand. I just love seeing reactions of it to see what others think and I been here since season 1 episode 1 with you and it has been amazing 😆.
Now that Season Ten is behind us, I'm starting to wonder just how much of modern Who might have taken place not in Earth's timeline, but that of Mondas. Missy's discovery that the ship came from Mondas is a big reveal and a surprise to those who managed to avoid the relentless BBC spoilering, but for fans of Nu-Who the reference would have been meaningless. After all, it was only mentioned in detail in The Tenth Planet, way back in 1966, long before most current fans were even born. Setting the stories in Mondas's timeline would solve a lot of the weird continuity that besets Who, as in "it happened on Mondas, not Earth." It's the kind of trick Moffat would pull, too. There are hints in Season Ten that something weird is happening but, if you pull back and look, the first clue is dangled in "The Pandorica Opens". There's another clue in "A Good Man Goes To War." Another in "Oxygen". And then, finally, there's "World Enough And Time." What do these four stories have in common? Blue guys. Dorium Maldovar, the black marketeer, was "old, fat and blue." Was he from Mondas? Then there's the blue guy in "Oxygen". There's no mention by anyone in the story that he's blue. Only Bill makes any mention of it. And then there's the blue guy in "World Enough And Time", who's clearly from Mondas, works on a Mondasian starship and that's clearly normal for Mondas. The Doctor is unfazed by the appearance of all these blue guys. Clearly, for him, it's just normality. But for the viewer, the surprise is that there's only one place where blue guys are part of the everyday population - Mondas. So now I'm wondering just how long Mondas has been there in the background, the faintest, tiniest hint from Moffat that all is not as it seems.
I’ve only just found your reaction videos - and I’m mad it took this long! Your reactions are simply fantastic. Had to subscribe. Just to say, I knew Matt Smith when he attended the UEA here in Norwich (infact 5 mins from where I live) and he is exactly like his doctor in real life.
John Simm's Beard and disguise were a definite nod to the original series Masters who (two out of three of which) had beards and loved disguises. :) Also since Capaldi's Doctor has a dash of Pertwee in him, it's fitting to have him face a bearded Master since The Original Roger Delgado Master first appeared with Jon Pertwee's 3rd Doctor.
I am so, so glad you weren't spoiled about the John Simm reveal. They'd announced he was going to be in this episode months before, so it wasn't a surprise for me. I also knew about the Cybermen. But that didn't make this episode any less exciting to watch, and there were still plenty of surprises. You are SO not ready for the next two episodes.
I have been looking forward to this FOREVER. We were all spoiled for the reveal due to stupid marketing in the UK when it was coming out, so I'm SO HAPPY to experience it vicariously through you as I knew immediately when I saw that character. It's still a brilliant episode but it's worth waiting over a year to witness someone react to it the way IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN! xo
You are so blessed to not being spoiled on this episode. BBC stupidly spoiled both the Cyberman and John Simm Master reveal in their promo previews. Watching your reaction and realization of those things at the end is pure joy!
I'm surprised that all the parts about waiting didn't trigger memories of Amy and Rory. Waiting for the Pandorica, waiting in the Doctor's Wife, waiting in the one with the two Amys... Now for a very long week of waiting here for your next reaction.
I love this two parter so much .. it has some of my favorite moments of Capaldi’s run and it’s just a well done finale overall . It’s crazy to think you only have 2 episodes left to catch up on
That was cathartic to watch. You were so fortunate that you got to see this without being spoiled. The BBC spoiled the master's return and the Cyberman in the trailers.
This is the episode I think everyone was waiting for your reaction to since it came out. I'm sure other people are going to say in the comments but anyone who followed the show at the time knew both the Cybermen and John Simm's Master were returning for the finale so we had a spoiled experience unfortunately. Thankfully, the new showrunner is making sure to keep as much secret as possible while enticing the audience but at the time of Series 10, the BBC had announced the Cybermen, announced John Simm's Master, announced John Simm's Master a couple more times, and showed both in several trailers. So unless you were a really casual fan who avoided the internet and Next Time trailers, you knew what was coming. Considering how much I enjoyed the episode even knowing that, I'd love to know what I'd have thought if I didn't. It probably would've gone down as one of the biggest episodes in 'Doctor Who's history. That's why it's particularly enjoyable to see the reactions of people who weren't aware. Also, yes, some operating rooms are referred to as "operating theatres". The reason for this is that it was once considered a spectacle to witness someone performing surgery (similar to public executions, I'm guessing). 11:26 - Slight hints with the Master's musical theme there.
10/10 reaction. :) I think I liked your reaction when you figured out that it was the Cybermen even more than the Master reveal. Oh, and when you went slightly crazy in the last minute of the video. That was amazing too. :P I also didn't like John Simm but he is better in the final episode of season ten (as I'm sure you know by now). He's more serious and malevolent, rather than a pantomime clown. If he played it the same way back in season three, I'd have liked him a lot more. As for this episode, I love it. 10/10. I actually tend not to like Cybermen episodes but this one really gets across the body horror aspect of them, which is great. Had the BBC not spoiled their John Simm reveal in the Next Time trailers, this probably would've been my favourite episode of Doctor Who.
MrAzmatMahmood - I actually didn't like Missy in season 8 or 9. She reminded me of Moriarty from Sherlock, who I hated. I liked her more in season 10, when she toned it down. Also, she wasn't more pantomime than John Simm at all. Are you forgetting the dancing around to Scissor Sisters?
Wannabe_Baby Fair enough. I see so many people say how much they disliked Simm's Master because he was so OTT and that the Master shouldn't be like that. Then, in the same breath praise Missy and go on about how much of an improvement she was over Simm in that regard, like what!? At least your consistent with your criticism. Also, yes I do remember that ONE scene with Simm dancing, but have you forgotten the scenes in series 8 with Missy dancing? How about in series 9 or the scene in this very episode where she dances and even dabs? Missy was definitely more pantomime than Simm in every way. I love them both though.
Loved your reaction, whether it was to small things like the tear that is part of the usual Cybermen design or bigger things like John Simm's disguise or Bill's death or the pain theme involved throughout the episode, etc. I would suggest you to go forth not knowing anything because most of us had the opposite reaction since we knew most of the stuff, but if you want to go knowing the regeneration moment, I think you'll know either way once you get there. Wishes of a fast recovery btw, the weather really has been playing tricks on everyone ;)
I'm surprised you didn't latch onto the "doodle-oo doodle-oo doodle-oo doodle-oo" pattern in the music (by wind instruments) that The Master had in Tennant's era. (Ballsy that they used it while he was in disguise still!) To be fair, I only noticed now, 6+ months after seeing this episode! LOL
I was waiting for this video the whole week, and boy was my faith rewarded. Your reaction was amazing. I can't stress enough how envious I am of you for being able to watch the reveal of the Master without it being spoiled weeks in advance by the BBC (damn you, leakers!). It truly is one one of the greatest twists in the revived series' history, but most of us who watched live already knew he was going to show up. You better get a whole lot of tissues ready for next week, because it's going to get emotional...
I honestly don't think anyone's reaction to a doctor who episode is better than yours at the time of the doctor... Love ur reactions soooooooo much... Can't wait for next week and the week after.
I don't think I've ever so highly anticipated a reaction video before, and this was totally worth the wait. I'm literally shaking. This episode is so damn good. The first televised story with multiple versions of the Master, too. If you like Cybermen stories - and especially this type of Cybermen story - I highly recommend the Big Finish audio play _Spare Parts._ It also does "Genesis of the Cybermen", but set on their homeworld Mondas, and it's quite possibly the scariest Doctor Who story there is. The Cyber-Committee insisting that it's still human is truly disturbing.
This is probably my favourite Doctor Who story of all time, and I speak as someone who has seen every TV story in sequence, plus the first 50 Big Finish audio dramas, as well as 20+ novels and DWM comic strips. Plus most of the spin-offs, exceptions being Wartime, Mindgame & Mindgame: Trilogy, and Dæmos Rising. This is a truly exceptional two parter.
Your shocked responses to certain moments of this episode from the Doctor regenerating to the John Simms Master reveal were worth waiting for. And there are more anticipated moments to come in the next reaction. On which is more painful (a companion dying as a result of trying to be you or a companion relying on you to save them only to fail), I think the Doctor finds both equally painful. As you know, he considers it his duty of care to look after his companions.
That was the reaction that Stephen Moffat in the makers wanted to have, the problem is that the newspaper spoilt it for us... I’m glad it didn’t spoil it for you, what a reaction
Wow, I watched this season after it had already all aired and didn't watch any of the spoilery bits, so I had no idea people knew Simm was coming back! 😆 Now I'm glad I was watching it with fresh eyes when I did.
10:32 Oh, Jess! So close to guessing right! 16:00 Yes! Yes! Yes, you clever girl! Now run! 18:35 The big reveal!! Possibly the best Cyberman story? Now for part 2!
I knew it was coming, but I loved the way you almost jumped up off the couch when the Master took off his mask and revealed himself to Missy, and also that it obviously didn't get spoiled in advance.
G'day Jess. That is in my opinion one of your best reaction videos you have done. Everything you expressed, i expressed when i first watched this last year on ABC iview the Sunday morning it was posted. All the elements and emotions were there, Bilk becoming a Cyberman, John Simms Master (so much better here then under RTD. Felt like old school Master, Roger Delgado). Everyone was brilliant, Peter, Michelle, Pearl, Matt, and of course the brilliant Rachel's sensational direction, the best in 21st century Who. When i first started the episode, i was hit for six with that regeneration, thinking What the Hell, but the way it gets handled is unquie and brilliant. In fact if i remember that first scene was filmed only 2 weeks before hand, the quickest turnaround from filming to broadcast since the 1960s, when they were filming the same story as it was being broadcast ( ie. Filming part 4 as part 1 was on the air). This was because they were filming the Christmas ep at the same time as this was broadcast. I love your analysis of this Doctor's relationship with his companions. He is very much like a teacher and the characteristics of Clara and Bill while different are similar in that they are learning from him. If you like this teacher/student relationship then you would live 7 and Ace. Anyway, fab work and have tissues next week if you haven't already watched it. Love your week, from Liverpool, Australia. ❤❤❤ P.S - i understand your sickness, because i can feel a sickness coming, especially with a sore throat.
Technically this episode had loads of Missy. Just she's younger. And male.
oh, the joys of time travel and regeneration
The Master reveal is so satisfying to watch when the person doesn't know it's coming. The BBC kept teasing his appearance all season with trailers. It really ruined the surprise for a lot of people.
it was ruined for me too. i wish i didnt know it was coming i stopped watching coming attractions after this episode
It wasn't ruined for me but when I saw Razor for the first time all I saw was John Simm lol
The BBC revealed him due to one of the papers threatening to spoil his return.
However, even though I knew that the John Simm was coming back, I didn't clue in that he was Razor until right near the end when he was talking with Missy.
@@alphamone Ah ok I must have somehow missed that then. I don't tend to read newspapers.
Actually the BBC didn't ruin it. The Sun did. If they hadn't revealed that it was him, I wouldn't have known it was him.
This two-part finale is not just the best Cybermen story of Modern Who, but one of the best Cybermen stories ever. These two episodes offer the perfect examination into what makes the Cybermen a true threat; 'World Enough and Time' shows us the grotesque body horror, while 'The Doctor Falls' shows us how truly relentless and never-ending they are. Bringing back the original 1966 Mondasian versions was a stroke of genius by Steven Moffat, taking what can be considered a ridiculous old design and making it sting, and that design is probably now my favourite Cyberman design alongside the 80's versions. Also, bringing back John Simm's Master and pairing him with Michelle Gomez's Missy was a great bonus. This was a great start to Capaldi's final adventure.
Yeah honestly there's been great Cybermen stories over time, but the cybermen themselves haven't been this amazing since the 60s
The Second part lets it down unfortunately in my opinion
Shitty TH-cam Account For the first time in three series, I think the second part of the finale was also great. For me, Death in Heaven was a massive step down from Dark Water and Hell Bent was a massive step down from Heaven Sent, so it was nice for The Doctor Falls to be *almost* as good as World Enough and Time.
Ryan Pollard Interesting story about that, Peter Capaldi wanted to face off with the Mondasian Cyberman, possibly even have his final story with them, and Moffat only agreed out of respect for Peter’s wishes. It just so happens that when handed that original design, Moffat thought they looked ridiculous and realized that he needed to pull out all the stops to make them genuinely intimidating and so we wound up with one of the all-time best. Which says to me that Moffat really needs people to bounce ideas off of because whenever he’s challenged he excels.
@@UltimateKyuubiFox "Which says to me that Moffat really needs people to bounce ideas off of because whenever he’s challenged he excels.
" That's the case for a lot of really talented writers and idea people. It's always a good thing to have at least two or three people around to bounce ideas off of because they can pull in stuff if it's too far out there or maybe spark a new idea and be there to help you flesh it out.
And THIS is why you never watch next time trailers.
Tbh they didn’t need to reveal the master in the trailers.
@@callumocreary1253Especially as there was an episode after this where people would know to tune in so this wasn’t a one episode event.
@@callumocreary1253 They did it to entice the audience to watch. If they didn't, less people would have watched it, so less money for them. They were desperate. Avengers Endgame on the other hand didn't need to give spoilers in the trailers because they knew people would watch it.
Oh, did they spoil the Master in the previous trailer?? Glad I never saw that..
@@hornguy04 They spoiled it at the start of the series, with a "This Series On Doctor Who" trailer at the end of _The Pilot._ And then they did it again at the end of the previous episode.
It's so great when Razor says "It was a clever lie, but you see straight through me" and "Is burgling mask. [...] You see through my clever disguise" especially when people don't recognize Simm (which included me on first viewing).
14:50 Even she said the same thing. and get fooled by it as well XD
We all been fooled XD
Adam Abrams I knew it was Simm straight away not because The BBC announced his return but because I know That's the type of disguise The Master would have had during Classic Who
A couple of times while watching I thought I heard his voice but was still shocked to see it was him
I was not spoiled on this and was freaking out when he talks to bill about the time difference cause the background music is the masters theme from ten except without the four beats
I've been waiting since this story came out to see someone who didn't know the Cybermen or Simm would be in this story to react to it, and you did not disappoint.
94830 086436 here’s another reaction channel who didn’t know: th-cam.com/video/79A0q9WsBtQ/w-d-xo.html
Luckily for me I live in the US so I didn’t get spoiled.
I was actually pissed at the BBC for spoiling it for me. I'm so glad Jess wasn't spoiled.
Tad Tranclere Lots of American reactors don't follow the DW news channels, so they didn't get the John Simm spoiler.
Being in the US didn't stop me from being spoiled, really.
@@ChristopherUSSmith I avoid all news, but it was in a 'next week' preview at the end of the previous episode. BBC really screwed the pooch.
You freaking out during this reaction was everything. From Bill getting shot to you freaking out about the Cybermen's return to you dying at that John Simm reveal. This was amazing! And I'm ready for the next episode and not ready at the same time. This is truly one of the best Cybermen stories ever. It's everything I wanted, especially the horrors of the Cybermen being uncovered.
Oh, she was so lucky she didn't get spoiled like the rest of us!!
Me too one of my favourite cyberman stories but I liked s2 with the daleks too!
Trofknarf Alias
Oooh, really? I do need to watch more Classic Who.
So glad she didn't get spoiled!!!! :D
HERE COME DA DRUMS HERE COME DA DRUMS
THIS WAS SO WORTH THE WAIT OMG YES
I... waited...
@@InevitableVitare fooooorrr yoooouuuuuuu....
No, for this video.
yep! and the best episode next! here we goooo!
The reaction everyone SHOULD have had, if only they didn’t announce John Simm was returning as The Master before this series started...smh 🤦🏻♂️
Reestapha they have been doing that since Series 1 they shouldn't have included The Daleks in The Bad Wolf next time trailer or before Series 4 aired announcing Rose is returning
@@icantthinkofagoodusername4575 S10 was the worst offender of it though, there were still plenty of shocks prior
since we have no idea when, it was shocking still.
It was unfortunate that the BBC included footage of simm in the press trailer. They chose to announce simms involvement as the sun said they were going to put it in print so bbc beat them to it.
I was lucky to avoid the spoilers and had this reaction myself, I was so bummed when I went online after and found that most people were spoiled. Glad she wasn't!
Jess has the uncanny ability to avoid spoilers which makes for some of the most memorable WHO reactions. And she just added to that great collection.
I'm so excited for her to see the series 10 finale .....
Henry in NorCal that makes for the biggest shocks as it suddenly twists...
This is the Series 10 finale....
@@georgelinford5576 Here you go: th-cam.com/video/uXdhw9QA_4w/w-d-xo.html
That Master reveal, that made you basically leap out of frame was the best ever. LMAO!!
“OMG the mask is everything”. Yup you’re right there.
It was called a conversion “theatre” as surgery is performed in “operating theatres” in the UK not OR’s. Stemming from when surgery was in its infancy and was a spectacle to be watched....awesome reaction btw... how we all should have reacted to the master had it not been spoiled waaay before broadcast! :)
Totally agree. All season I was waiting for the Master to pop up and it wasn't until the penultimate episode. Could've been arguably the best reveal in Nu Who if it wasn't for the Beeb spoiling it in the trailer.
Not for me, by that time I had forgot he was going to be in it. So I had the same reactions as hers except there were a whole lot of WTF's flying around LOL
+Michonne Okoye Same! I'd completely forgotten about the trailer so when he was revealed it was a mix of "Oh shit!" and "You IDIOT" lmao.
America has them too. TV and film has shown this. The incident with Kramer on Seinfeld, Lisa assisting Dr. Nick, Young Doctors In Love (comedy a la Naked Gun)...
Wren Poldark Haha! For me I think it's because with any show I only watch the trailers once.
The Master being in disguise is something that he would have done during The classic Series
Especially Anthony Ainley's Master....Talk about someone who's the opposite in real life, as opposed to his on-screen character...
@John 'Sepp' Schiltz Those two were amazing. Grew up watching them. Always felt a bit sad for Simms Master. He always felt like comic relief rather than an actual equal to The Doctor. Until this episode. This was right up there with Classic Who Master.
@mycroft16. Wasn't keen on Ainley, quite liked Simm being unpredictable but wish we could have had more than a glimpse of Derek Jacobi in the role.
I’ve never understood the appeal of reaction videos till I discovered your channel. Lovely to see sincere reactions from someone going in without spoilers. Genuinely been soo excited to see this one.
TARDISELLIOT TRAILERS from what I gather she tries to avoid spoilers as much as possible...tho there’s a few things she knew beforehand but for the most part, it’s all genuine first-time reactions
Wayne Sasuta that’s why I was particularly excited for this one. Great to see The Master reveal as a surprise.
Unfortunately, a lot of 'reaction' videos are either people grossly overreacting, or just watching the video silently without interacting with the camera. Jess is one of the few who gets it just right. Sincere reactions be it good or bad, while maintaining the 'shared viewing' experience via quips, comments, or just making faces at the camera. It's a shame she's now caught up, but here's hoping for more Classic Who reactions (Tomb of The Cyberman, maybe?)
Oh boy, not even started watching yet but easily one of my favourite 12th Doctor stories... I. cannot. wait!!!!
John Simm in this episode was more like the traditional character of the master from classic Who - particularly Roger Delgado. I never liked him in RTD era, and I really loved him in this finale. Such a shame he was not able to play the master like this previously. Interesting to read in other comments Simm did not like his character under RTD. Makes sense, as actually he could have been brilliant playing it like this.
In the RTD era Simm's Master felt like Ainley in overdrive(which is I guess impressive given Ainley was already that way it seems), in Moffatt era agreed he comes off more Delgado like.
Your reaction to the Master reveal was PRICELESS! I think it's your most extreme yet! Peter Capaldi told Steven Moffat that the original Mondasian Cybermen were his dream choice of villain, and Moffat obliged here. John Simms told Moffat several years ago he would love to come back as the Master sometime, and here we are! You are SO going to love the next two episodes, Can't wait to see (and hear!) your reactions...!
Obiwan Russell in fact Simm already told he wanted to return immediately after he left in the RTD era. He said he regretted his choice to leave.
@@danniemadsen1996 I'm well aware of that, but RTD left too, so he told Moffat as well just so he knew he would like to return.
Obiwan Russell oh, I'm just adding to what you said. Not trying to imply you didn't know. :)
Fair enough, it's always difficult to judge someone's tone through written word alone. @@danniemadsen1996
I know all about that.
"The Doctor has a thing for waiting"
So does Bill ;)
the girl who waited
Amy
And also Rory...
So does Rory.
So did the Ponds😭
Liam Catterson So did Rory and Amy. ;)
‘Dafuq is wrong with this guy?!?’
Well my dear....I guess you could say he’s two faced ;)
I knew that we knew he was coming back but the eyes for me and the smile gave it away from the first nano second didn't stop the enjoyment as it added an extra layer to wondering how he would be revealed and what his plan was. I was shocked how many it duped! :-)
Hahaha...I like that, that's actually very good!!!
I leapt about 3ft off the sofa when Simm appeared and spilt wine over everything 😂
Simm spilled wine over everything? Don't invite him around again!
@@ajivins1 he seems very messy 😂🤣
One of the best stories of Moffat's run. Hands down.
Cannot wait to see you're reaction to the next two episodes
I cannot state enough how much I love John Simm's Master in this. Such a monumental improvement over the giggling lunatic from the Tennant stories, showing he can be a fantastic actor and character when not written terribly
I like how he is more like Roger Delgado.
@James Roper This is why Steven Moffat us a better writer than RTD. When you think about it he wrote 9s best stories, 10s best stories and John Simm at his best.
Just shut your mouth. He wasn't written terribly. He was written in one way, and this was another way. He *mastered* them both astonishingly.
@@davile_1428 why do you have to insult people? Really childish behaviour
@@linasmith9834 I wasn't insulting. I said shut up. Because your all saying that Moffat did him better , no that's opinionated so stop
Oh boy, you experienced this episode as we all wish we did, happy for you!
I also experienced it like her. Back when I loved the show so much to avoid all spoilers.
I.....waited.....for.....you.....to watch this. Worth the pain of waiting.....pain.....
This reaction really shows how much better this episode would have been if the BBC and other news networks didn't keep spoiling things like the cybermen and John Simm returning.
I HATED the fact BBC ruined the surprise of Simm's Master coming back. If would have been an incredible twist and surprise. This next episode is a masterpiece.
This was the Heaven Sent of Sesska reactions. Was so hyped for this and it lived up so much. I NEED THE NEXT EPISODE REACTION
Oh, I only just noticed the series 3/4 master theme playing faintly in the background in a couple of the scenes with Simm
Me too...
"And it was the Genesis of the Cybermen, and a Two Masters team-up, and Missy got to be awesome at playing 'Dr Who', and the music and the direction were amazing, and - oh, Auntie Em... it was all such a strange dream!"
Idc if I'm the only one but so far on s11 I miss Moffat's writing... I don't know, despite its faults it had a... kind of magical vibe that I loved about his era... (yeah I'm in the nostalgic viiiibe)
Nora Girl I’m getting used to it .. I have liked the episodes to varying degrees but the show feels more closer to RTD and maybe even some more Classic Who in there aswell rather then Moffat’s dark fairytale style
Series 11 is still bedding down, but I'm enjoying it.
Despite the blogs and critics trying to say that s11 is "the best in years!" (they probably feel like they have to say it to please Twitter), so far It's 2 duds and 1 hit for me. I like the new visual style and Jodie is fine....but I too miss Moffat's "fairytale" writing style. Unpopular opinion, I know, but who cares? I guess I'll adjust.
i wouldnt say close to classic who at all. classic who had satisfying stories
There'll always be people who miss RTD's writing, there'll always be people who miss Moffat's writing. In 10 years time, there'll be people who'll always miss Chibnall's writing. That's the joy of the show. It's constant yet temporary at the same time as it flies through different eras.
That thumbnail/scene is one of the reasons I've been waiting for this reaction video! Fun fact: John Simm grew the gotee as an homage/tribute to the Classic Who version of the character. ;)
It is a bit sad that you're catching up-it's been so fun to re-experience the episodes as you watch them. Presumably you'll do Series 12 whenever that happens, but that will be near-simultaneous, and that's a very different (yet also worthwhile) thing to watch. It will also be nice not to have to worry so much about spoilers, though, so there's that :)
Adam Abrams Perhaps she's going back to the Classics and waiting for a bit so she won't be watching them as they air. Maybe, just maybe.
Trying so hard not to skip to the master scene
Yeah, you at the end of this video sums it up. This episode was kinda shear terror to me, totally horrified me, but when it was over I just looked back and started gushing about all the little details that made it sooooo good. Capaldi's run for me is a little lack luster, but man are there a few gems that are just head and shoulders above anything else in the series, and this is one of them.
Wow uploaded 13 seconds ago. Ahh, the reaction we all wish we could’ve had. Frantically typing this before I watch lol. The BBC announcing/spoiling The Master’s return 3 months prior to the broadcast of this episode was such a stupid move which made zero sense. They officially announced it because The Sun threatened to spoil it. But the only reason The Sun knew about it in the first place was because Simm was in the “coming soon” trailer which aired at the end of a press preview screening of The Pilot (and was also at the end of the broadcasted version). So if they hadn’t put him in the trailer, The Sun (and everybody else) would’ve been none the wiser.
Hell, John Simm was filming in public in Cardiff (in full prosthetics) and NOBODY clocked on that it was him. This could’ve been a massive surprise and I can’t think of any logical reason for announcing his return. Maybe to bring back fans who haven’t watched the show since 2010? The viewing figures for Series 10 were still the lowest of all 10 series and pretty poor, so I don’t think announcing his return had any major affect on the viewing figures.
Rant over. You probably knew all this by know lol. Great reaction (I assume) nonetheless :)
Same i wish i could of had that sort of reaction but off course we knew everything about the finale already
I bought the season pass on iTunes when the first episode of the season came out (something I’ve also done for the newest season). Luckily for me I live in America and didn’t follow the BBC on any social media so it came as a complete surprise to me.
I actually didn't know. Maybe it's cause I live in the US. I just don't watch the promos, so managed to avoid it entirely.
I live in Canada, and we got spoiled. In the "Next time on" after the season premier, they showed clips of the Mondasian Cybermen, and The Master. So we knew he would show up at some point that season. So when the final story started, I knew they both had to show up. Watching a pure reaction was amazing.
He was rumored to be returning before the series even started and apparently spotted on set so the BBC had to confirm it.
18:34 Dr Who fans coming to the end of 'Earthshock' Part 1 in 1982.
We could all have had the same reaction as Jess if it weren't for the press leaks and spoilery trailers.
9:47 honestly one of the most disturbing moments in the entire show
I’m pretty sure missys dab was
Thank you sooooooooo much for fighting through the sickness !!!!!!!!!!! Been waiting so long for these next few reaction vids from you.
Your excitement over this episode at the end almost made me forget my sadness over the upcoming end of Twelve, so that was great :D Your thoughts there I think summed up some themes about this episode (and Bill and Twelve and the rest of the gang) very nicely.
I had a feeling you'd love this one. Because outside of just being a very well-written episode, it has 1) Missy, 2) Cybermen and 3) Twists that you hadn't been spoiled on. Which was lucky, most of us where, since the BBC decided to put John Simm in the series 10 trailer. Still bitter over that, so I'm living the surprise through reactions.
As always, people have SO MANY OPINIONS about Doctor Who, but I love this episode to bits. It immediately made its way up into my top 10 episodes.
While I'm still sad that it's nearly caught up (it is a bit different to be caught up, as you say), I'm really looking forward to the next couple of weeks. Hope you feel better soon!
A few people worked it out I’m glad you didn’t know it was cybermen and the master
I'm SO PLEASED this wasn't spoiled for you. Great reaction as ever, can't wait for the finale, gonna be emotional.
I sincerely believe that the John Simms's Master was much better written by Moffat than by Davies.
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If BBC had not reveal the return of the John Simm's Master and the Mondasians Cybermen, this amazing episode would have shocked New Who's fans in the same way that "Earthshock" shocked Classic Who fans in the 1980s.
Though I knew about John Simm's Master coming back, it was still a shock to find out that Bill's new friend was the Master in disguise.
Completely agree!
I find it amazing how Moffat managed to write Simm's Master so much better, whilst not changing the character from his appearance in the RTD era and simultaneously keeping his character different from Missy's.
Allan Veríssimo The Sun would have spoiled the return, which is why the BBC stole their fire. ;)
I work very hard to miss spoilers and it was a perfect episode. I'd worked out it was going to be Cybermen from the first time you hear the voice (when they retrieved Bill from the bridge, I think) but the Mondasian-look was a complete surprise. I'd also picked up that there was something odd about Mr Razor but I had no clue it was the Master until he started talking to Missy.
(Spoilers)
Personally, I'd differentiate between the Series 3 and 2008 - 2010 Specials Master.
The latter went a bit too over-the-top for me, at least in the performance. I can't remember enough about the way he was written as a character but his situation (revived by magic?, has superpowers? needs to eat people?) wasn't handled particularly well.
However, I think he's great in Series 3. He's OTT but also grounded and believable, and I think his character is given a lot in the writing. And he even has those deeper moments in the latter; it's just hard to ignore the unexplained (seemingly random) situational things.
Whereas in Series 10, I don't think he's given very much as a character. He's evil and sexist and that's about it. If you prefer the calmer approach as a portrayal (I'm guessing that's the case but please do correct me if not), fair enough. I quite dislike there are two versions as there's a distinct disconnect there but I can understand fundamentally preferring one over the other. However, I feel there is a layered depth to RTD's version that we don't see in Moffat's.
Yes, the Mondassian Cybermen, it was Capaldi's personal request to have a story with them, since they were his favourite Who Villains as a child
2nd place behind honey is really the best any other Doctor can possibly hope for. :)
this must have been one of your most animated reactions to a doctor who ep, 2 huge leaps from the sofa and considering you stated that you was feeling under the weather, "I think you need a doctor" seems a totally appropriate quote. Bring on "the doctor falls"
I hadn't noticed until watching this reaction, in one scene with Razor they played a variation of the Master's theme music, just without the drumbeat.
Well spotted! We threw in some musical Easter eggs to give the razor-sharp-eared some clues! ;-)
Eleven and Twelve are two of my favorites too. Eleven is my fav though by a very small margin, because he made me fall in love with the show, so he holds a very special place in my heart. Capaldi though man, I never though I'd like him soooo much. After watching season 10, I watched his series 'The Thick of It' and I swear I'm a fan of Capaldi's. He is criminally underrated. Please watch The Thick of It. Its an amazing series.
Oh boy, it's starting! I'm so excited, I'm so EXCITED, I'M SO EXCITED!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Simms was doing such a good impression of Zathras from Babylon 5, I didn’t even guess it was the Master!!!
I loved being on this journey with you. I know doctor who like the back of my hand. I just love seeing reactions of it to see what others think and I been here since season 1 episode 1 with you and it has been amazing 😆.
Now that Season Ten is behind us, I'm starting to wonder just how much of modern Who might have taken place not in Earth's timeline, but that of Mondas. Missy's discovery that the ship came from Mondas is a big reveal and a surprise to those who managed to avoid the relentless BBC spoilering, but for fans of Nu-Who the reference would have been meaningless. After all, it was only mentioned in detail in The Tenth Planet, way back in 1966, long before most current fans were even born. Setting the stories in Mondas's timeline would solve a lot of the weird continuity that besets Who, as in "it happened on Mondas, not Earth." It's the kind of trick Moffat would pull, too.
There are hints in Season Ten that something weird is happening but, if you pull back and look, the first clue is dangled in "The Pandorica Opens". There's another clue in "A Good Man Goes To War." Another in "Oxygen". And then, finally, there's "World Enough And Time." What do these four stories have in common?
Blue guys.
Dorium Maldovar, the black marketeer, was "old, fat and blue." Was he from Mondas?
Then there's the blue guy in "Oxygen". There's no mention by anyone in the story that he's blue. Only Bill makes any mention of it.
And then there's the blue guy in "World Enough And Time", who's clearly from Mondas, works on a Mondasian starship and that's clearly normal for Mondas.
The Doctor is unfazed by the appearance of all these blue guys. Clearly, for him, it's just normality. But for the viewer, the surprise is that there's only one place where blue guys are part of the everyday population - Mondas.
So now I'm wondering just how long Mondas has been there in the background, the faintest, tiniest hint from Moffat that all is not as it seems.
I’ve only just found your reaction videos - and I’m mad it took this long! Your reactions are simply fantastic. Had to subscribe. Just to say, I knew Matt Smith when he attended the UEA here in Norwich (infact 5 mins from where I live) and he is exactly like his doctor in real life.
One line that can either bring some cheerfulness or heart break: "I am Bill Potts"
John Simm's Beard and disguise were a definite nod to the original series Masters who (two out of three of which) had beards and loved disguises. :) Also since Capaldi's Doctor has a dash of Pertwee in him, it's fitting to have him face a bearded Master since The Original Roger Delgado Master first appeared with Jon Pertwee's 3rd Doctor.
I've actually been wondering if someone who didn't get the episode spoiled the hell out of by the BBC would recognize the Master's disguise xD
That reaction to John Simms return. It was exactly how it should have been! Damn BBC and their teasers. I was very excited though!!!
I am so, so glad you weren't spoiled about the John Simm reveal. They'd announced he was going to be in this episode months before, so it wasn't a surprise for me. I also knew about the Cybermen. But that didn't make this episode any less exciting to watch, and there were still plenty of surprises.
You are SO not ready for the next two episodes.
I have been looking forward to this FOREVER. We were all spoiled for the reveal due to stupid marketing in the UK when it was coming out, so I'm SO HAPPY to experience it vicariously through you as I knew immediately when I saw that character. It's still a brilliant episode but it's worth waiting over a year to witness someone react to it the way IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN! xo
This video did not dissapoint. Poor lass is gonna lose her shit over the next few episodes.
You are so blessed to not being spoiled on this episode. BBC stupidly spoiled both the Cyberman and John Simm Master reveal in their promo previews. Watching your reaction and realization of those things at the end is pure joy!
John Simm finally felt like The Master here
The moment they came out of the elevator I’m like oh shit it’s a mondasian cybermen. Tenth planet exitment
PLEASE ! While watching christmas special pay attention to the music pls !
I'm surprised that all the parts about waiting didn't trigger memories of Amy and Rory. Waiting for the Pandorica, waiting in the Doctor's Wife, waiting in the one with the two Amys... Now for a very long week of waiting here for your next reaction.
I love this two parter so much .. it has some of my favorite moments of Capaldi’s run and it’s just a well done finale overall .
It’s crazy to think you only have 2 episodes left to catch up on
That was cathartic to watch. You were so fortunate that you got to see this without being spoiled. The BBC spoiled the master's return and the Cyberman in the trailers.
This is the episode I think everyone was waiting for your reaction to since it came out. I'm sure other people are going to say in the comments but anyone who followed the show at the time knew both the Cybermen and John Simm's Master were returning for the finale so we had a spoiled experience unfortunately.
Thankfully, the new showrunner is making sure to keep as much secret as possible while enticing the audience but at the time of Series 10, the BBC had announced the Cybermen, announced John Simm's Master, announced John Simm's Master a couple more times, and showed both in several trailers.
So unless you were a really casual fan who avoided the internet and Next Time trailers, you knew what was coming. Considering how much I enjoyed the episode even knowing that, I'd love to know what I'd have thought if I didn't. It probably would've gone down as one of the biggest episodes in 'Doctor Who's history. That's why it's particularly enjoyable to see the reactions of people who weren't aware.
Also, yes, some operating rooms are referred to as "operating theatres". The reason for this is that it was once considered a spectacle to witness someone performing surgery (similar to public executions, I'm guessing).
11:26 - Slight hints with the Master's musical theme there.
10/10 reaction. :) I think I liked your reaction when you figured out that it was the Cybermen even more than the Master reveal. Oh, and when you went slightly crazy in the last minute of the video. That was amazing too. :P
I also didn't like John Simm but he is better in the final episode of season ten (as I'm sure you know by now). He's more serious and malevolent, rather than a pantomime clown. If he played it the same way back in season three, I'd have liked him a lot more. As for this episode, I love it. 10/10. I actually tend not to like Cybermen episodes but this one really gets across the body horror aspect of them, which is great. Had the BBC not spoiled their John Simm reveal in the Next Time trailers, this probably would've been my favourite episode of Doctor Who.
Wannabe_Baby I think his Master being more insane back then worked due to the Time Lords messing with his mind with the “Drums” etc
Missy's even more insane and pantomime, but I presume you liked her?
MrAzmatMahmood - I actually didn't like Missy in season 8 or 9. She reminded me of Moriarty from Sherlock, who I hated. I liked her more in season 10, when she toned it down.
Also, she wasn't more pantomime than John Simm at all. Are you forgetting the dancing around to Scissor Sisters?
Wannabe_Baby Fair enough. I see so many people say how much they disliked Simm's Master because he was so OTT and that the Master shouldn't be like that. Then, in the same breath praise Missy and go on about how much of an improvement she was over Simm in that regard, like what!? At least your consistent with your criticism.
Also, yes I do remember that ONE scene with Simm dancing, but have you forgotten the scenes in series 8 with Missy dancing? How about in series 9 or the scene in this very episode where she dances and even dabs? Missy was definitely more pantomime than Simm in every way. I love them both though.
I enjoyed Missy as a villain in series 8 and 9, but I never truly accepted her as The Master until this story.
Loved your reaction, whether it was to small things like the tear that is part of the usual Cybermen design or bigger things like John Simm's disguise or Bill's death or the pain theme involved throughout the episode, etc. I would suggest you to go forth not knowing anything because most of us had the opposite reaction since we knew most of the stuff, but if you want to go knowing the regeneration moment, I think you'll know either way once you get there. Wishes of a fast recovery btw, the weather really has been playing tricks on everyone ;)
I'm surprised you didn't latch onto the "doodle-oo doodle-oo doodle-oo doodle-oo" pattern in the music (by wind instruments) that The Master had in Tennant's era.
(Ballsy that they used it while he was in disguise still!)
To be fair, I only noticed now, 6+ months after seeing this episode! LOL
I was waiting for this video the whole week, and boy was my faith rewarded. Your reaction was amazing. I can't stress enough how envious I am of you for being able to watch the reveal of the Master without it being spoiled weeks in advance by the BBC (damn you, leakers!). It truly is one one of the greatest twists in the revived series' history, but most of us who watched live already knew he was going to show up. You better get a whole lot of tissues ready for next week, because it's going to get emotional...
Watching *that* reaction in people over and over again is SO much fun! HEEEEEEE!!!!!
I forgot that the reaction was out today, I'm so hyped for this one!
Your reaction was priceless 🔥🔥🔥
I knew the spoiler about John Simm and still spent most of the episode wondering when he was going to show up.
I honestly don't think anyone's reaction to a doctor who episode is better than yours at the time of the doctor... Love ur reactions soooooooo much... Can't wait for next week and the week after.
How incredible was the Master's performance in his disguise? Just legendary!
I saw this and my heart starting pounding!!! Been waiting for this for a while! 😂
I don't think I've ever so highly anticipated a reaction video before, and this was totally worth the wait. I'm literally shaking. This episode is so damn good. The first televised story with multiple versions of the Master, too.
If you like Cybermen stories - and especially this type of Cybermen story - I highly recommend the Big Finish audio play _Spare Parts._ It also does "Genesis of the Cybermen", but set on their homeworld Mondas, and it's quite possibly the scariest Doctor Who story there is. The Cyber-Committee insisting that it's still human is truly disturbing.
Here we go. Very excited to see your reaction to the final two episodes of Series 10.
This is probably my favourite Doctor Who story of all time, and I speak as someone who has seen every TV story in sequence, plus the first 50 Big Finish audio dramas, as well as 20+ novels and DWM comic strips. Plus most of the spin-offs, exceptions being Wartime, Mindgame & Mindgame: Trilogy, and Dæmos Rising. This is a truly exceptional two parter.
Oh boy here we go! 😁😁😁
Is anyone else now buzzing for her reaction to the next episode?
I love love LOVE this two parter
Well we’ve seen the doctor meet himself why not the master?
Another amazing cliffhanger from the Capaldi era!
Your shocked responses to certain moments of this episode from the Doctor regenerating to the John Simms Master reveal were worth waiting for. And there are more anticipated moments to come in the next reaction.
On which is more painful (a companion dying as a result of trying to be you or a companion relying on you to save them only to fail), I think the Doctor finds both equally painful. As you know, he considers it his duty of care to look after his companions.
That was the reaction that Stephen Moffat in the makers wanted to have, the problem is that the newspaper spoilt it for us... I’m glad it didn’t spoil it for you, what a reaction
ahh the reaction we all should have had to the master return, had it not been for the previews
You're here! You know! Nice to have you around for all the surprises. And I haven't watched your reaction yet.
The moffs brain is just so twisted it's amazing! 12th penultimate series episodes were all some of moffats finest.
Wow, I watched this season after it had already all aired and didn't watch any of the spoilery bits, so I had no idea people knew Simm was coming back! 😆 Now I'm glad I was watching it with fresh eyes when I did.
I'm SO glad you weren't spoiled for the Master reveal! Your reaction was EVERYTHING hahaha.
This reaction is everything
10:32 Oh, Jess! So close to guessing right!
16:00 Yes! Yes! Yes, you clever girl! Now run!
18:35 The big reveal!!
Possibly the best Cyberman story? Now for part 2!
I knew it was coming, but I loved the way you almost jumped up off the couch when the Master took off his mask and revealed himself to Missy, and also that it obviously didn't get spoiled in advance.
G'day Jess. That is in my opinion one of your best reaction videos you have done. Everything you expressed, i expressed when i first watched this last year on ABC iview the Sunday morning it was posted.
All the elements and emotions were there, Bilk becoming a Cyberman, John Simms Master (so much better here then under RTD. Felt like old school Master, Roger Delgado).
Everyone was brilliant, Peter, Michelle, Pearl, Matt, and of course the brilliant Rachel's sensational direction, the best in 21st century Who.
When i first started the episode, i was hit for six with that regeneration, thinking What the Hell, but the way it gets handled is unquie and brilliant. In fact if i remember that first scene was filmed only 2 weeks before hand, the quickest turnaround from filming to broadcast since the 1960s, when they were filming the same story as it was being broadcast ( ie. Filming part 4 as part 1 was on the air). This was because they were filming the Christmas ep at the same time as this was broadcast.
I love your analysis of this Doctor's relationship with his companions. He is very much like a teacher and the characteristics of Clara and Bill while different are similar in that they are learning from him. If you like this teacher/student relationship then you would live 7 and Ace.
Anyway, fab work and have tissues next week if you haven't already watched it.
Love your week, from Liverpool, Australia. ❤❤❤
P.S - i understand your sickness, because i can feel a sickness coming, especially with a sore throat.
18:30 Quite possibly Jess's best DW reaction moment.
Aww, there are some of us here that do care how you're feeling. I hope you get better real soon! ^^
Likely the only person on the planet who did not have much of the episode spoiled for her. ^_^