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This makes me wonder how the two species would interact, considering their almost polar opposites of each other. Would the flood turn the shadow particles into even more dangerous water vapour? Or would the vashta nerada just eat the flood, thus purifying the water?
My guess as to what The Flood is? A 'gray goo' event. A runaway self-replicating nanomachine that was designed for terraforming, but ran into the "paperclip maximizer" problem - that is to say, became obsessed with turning the planet *habitable* but not *inhabited* - maximizing its habitability by eliminating any inhabitants and converting them into raw resource. I've always liked the episode - most of it, at least - but the ending felt ham-fisted and carelessly constructed to make a point.
Or maybe it's a specialized pilot to a ship that exploded somewhere in he earth's solar system and remnants of it are just flying through space waiting to splash on any given planet
Always a question with grey goo material given things like stargate- why not everything? Convert the trees to start making water instead of just oxygen. Not that hard to find some extra H2 gas to stick onto O2. In fact, it would be more sound than making blood into water (using what perpetual chemical energy process? Who knows). Either way, it makes more sense as a sentient virus like halos flood, imo. It's just evil
Basically your body begins to break apart due to being overly saturated with water. And this happens IRL when you stay in the ocean for too long. Your skin begins to crack and flake away as blood oozes out of the wounds.
@@AmaryInkawultdoes this happen in fresh water or is it connected with the salt? I read some stuff in biology class about high/low salt content in water doing nasty things to cells
@dogf421 this happens in HEAVILY mineralized water, like the ocean. So yes, it's the salt. You get a lesser effect on your skin in fresher water. Your skin starts cracking in ocean water but wrinkly in pool/river water. While it's not good to stay too long in either, ocean water will fuck you up fast as it dehydrates you. Whereas river water is relatively harmless, you need to stay in water for more than a day for it to whittle your cells in river water. It takes less than a day in the ocean. It's why there are few survivors from seabound crashes are found IN the water after more than a day. The skin would have broken and bled by then, and sharks are attracted to that sweet red nectar.
my interpretation is that, it's actually a bottom feeder in the planet, something more akin to leech, parasite, harmful but not outright deadly, the planet is actually filled with superintelligent being unable to be perceived by human eyes, and midnight entity evolved it's mimic ability to pretend to be one of them while consuming their mind in an unsignificant manner, if they're caught they're dead meat, they however can kill human because human mind is weaker
the 10th doctor had by far some of the darkest and scariest villians, even more than the 9th, but you just dont notice so much because of davids incredibly light hearted preformance
I'm not saying it's m rated caused Australia has reddish soil and there's a possible cryptid along the lines of the flood but everything is an onion and maybe the flood was inspired by it's folklore but placed in mars
@@dandywaysoflivingNah, it's because Australia is a nanny state, who's government believes that society would break down if they let the people have even a little say in what goes on.
@@DeXyferonot really, the dw flood can be frozen, the only way the forerunners stopped halos flood was by killing all life in the galaxy along with themselves, although keeping spores of them on the halo rings does kinda dullen the idea of the rings in the first place
Think the issue with reusing the flood is that you kinda have an Angel issue, where you might lose the fear factor they once had. Admittingly I am still waiting for them to show their heads in Big Finish, all things considered it wouldn´t be the first sentient water alien they used. I personally like to think of them as somthing like the SAX from the Metroid series, where the Ice Warriors serve as a species perfectly made to counter the Flood who just happen to be an invasive species on mars.
Imma be real, I prefer Time of Angels to Blink and don't think the Weeping Angels coming back is a bad idea, but I don't want the Flood to come back. They work well as a one-off.
I think it is scary. As it's likely just a disease and even freezing might have only trapped it in a spore like stasis until warm air and life awakens the pathogen again. Meaning that even millions of years frozen might not end the flood.
For me, the creepiest scene is when Yuri is in the foreground happily talking about his family, while in the background we see Maggie start to shake, then stop, and then have the flood fully reveal itself.
To this day I honestly think that the flood is the scariest monster in Doctor Who history as well as it being one of the scariest episodes of all time. But it is one of the best episodes of all time.
I was very ill when Waters of Mars aired, and the sight of them blasting water from their mouths set me off. 15 years later and I still feel a bit queasy when I see it.
If I had a nickel for every time an infection that creates zombies and was completely sentient, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's kind of weird that it happened twice.
Ok so the Ice Warriors get their name in their 1st appearance from Humans who see some warriors stuck in ice. There is some absolute brutal irony that The Ice Warriors would be trapped and get their name from the very thing they used to defeat The Flood: ice.
I found this Virus, The Flood, more terrifying than The Daleks, The Cybermen even The Weeping Angles, simply because they are somewhat survivable, but this thing, one tiny drop or even a little spatter and you're dead, turned into a semi-mindless drone and the transformation is almost instantaneous and looks painful. This episode is so good because of how scary it is, it felt different from your average Doctor Who episode, to this day it is still regarded as one of the greatest episodes ever put to a tv screen
@@dwfan91- they're 2 kinds of space water that have a mind of their own it really doesn't take much thought Its possible that the floods planet was destroyed so its plan was to colonize another and it eventually set its sights on Mars The Martians proclaiming themselves as the ice warriors fought back against it and froze the flood only for humans to rediscover it years after Its possible droplets of the flood landed on earth (and maybe other planets too) but because it wasn't part of the main source Its sole purpose became finding the original colony Since the original colony is either dehydrated or frozen it pretty much just roams the stars attempting to find its other half this could also make its hold over individuals weaker and allow them to converse with it better than just becoming mindless subjects who've probably died
@@dwfan91- I can't really explain how it could be the water, nor would I be able to explain why a virus/disease is able to create infinate water by infecting a human. Humans have very watery bodies what the flood seemed to do was kill those infected and use them as puppets, manipulating the body through water pressure It's the whoverse, considering the fact that the moon is an egg I didn't think sentient water is that much of a stretch
The real mystery is why Murray Gold never released all the new songs from this episode… man, the track that plays while the Doctor fights against history is so good!
Ah! The S-tier Who villain. Along with Vashta Nerad, Weeping Angels and waters of Mars. But there's something above them. The midnight entity. Who could have literally killed the doctor, if not for some kind woman to sacrifice herself and throw it out of the vehicle.
I absolutely loved the moment when Andy is so astonished at the miracle they had achieved by growing crops on mars, when he says "Eden, thats what we should've called this place"
Ok, post watching but yeah I'm pretty sure the ice warriors or another space faring race created the flood as a terraforming agent and it either got out of control or was forgotten about, oh, maybe when a race of reptilians had to go into hiding because of an ice age or something and abandoned their attempts to terraform mars but left the project running... The other thing that's really important about this episode is that it sets the stage for the whole reboot starting with nine. Nine kept running into situations where the history of earth had been altered and he didn't know why... Because he was the one who decided he didn't have to follow the rules of time in this episode and sent everything sideways.
Okay, so I've always had this totally inconsequential theory but I love it interests me. Seeing this video, I was reminded of one of my biggest questions of the episode. Why was Maggie's infection so different from the others? Now, whilst we see several infections towards the end of the episode, we only really see three infections for long scale; Maggie, Andy and Tarak. So only these three are really long enough to use for comparison. We saw that Maggie was very much more aware or sentient than the other two and the Doctor even makes a point of mentioning it, but we are never given a reason. She even has different eyes to the male infected we see. Furthermore, we do briefly see Steffi's infection and she seems to have the same eyes as Maggies. However, we know that the Flood were frozen in the ice by the Ice Warriors, we know that they had some contact with one and another. We also know from classic who and "The Empress of Mars" that the ancient Martian Ice Warriors were a matriarchal species, with a Queen in charge, like a Bee Hive or an Ant nest. So, my idea is, what if the Flood virus used this? What if it specifically evolved like this; to treat the men of a species like drones and the female of a species like a hive queen - because that's what it was used to with the Ice Warriors? So then when it got involved with humanity it just got confused and made all the women "queens" and all the men "drones" Its not a massively important point, but it explains a question that always made me curious. Thoughts?
Whilst I adore all of Dr Who some more than others ....the first RTD era literally hits so different like for 5 years it delivered pure platinum gold weekly ....and the fact TWOM I watched....it was the final time as a family of 5 we watched Dr Who ....my father got realky ill and passed away Christmas holidays 2009 my life changed forever ....this special was my mood, my vibe my depression manifested in a pure horror episode....I do wish these specials were contained in series 4 box set too as TWOM is a masterpiece in art form in so many ways that I feel gets overlooked at times... But excellent ....just excellent sadly I don't think Dr who will dare to go that dark again ....like genuinely ....this was exceptional and I'm thankful this was watched by 10 million people on prime time ...absolute art 💙💙
To this day I always find it really interesting how similar The Flood from The Waters of Mars are to The Flood from Halo. Both are sentient pathogens that are able to infect with contact from just a single molecule of their infective form touching a host, both can infect rapidly or take their time, and both are incredibly resilient and pose a colossal threat if allowed to leave their habitats. Hell, They both even can communicate through their hosts to either trick or screw with potential new victims. Part of me wonders if The Flood from DW were inspired by The Flood from Halo due to the similarities and natures of both, or if it’s just a sheer coincidence.
Even if it is not a direct insipration i bet my money some of the writers played halo and just made things similar without knowing. It kinda happens to everyone when trying to do something new, you pick things and mix them up from your experience. I like this version of it too given it is water and not a phisycal parasite that difference is cool af imo
Now imagine if the flood from halo encountered the doctor the stakes would be crazy high since if he was infected the flood would have so much knowledge they could not be stopped
I'd assume he'd just have to regenerate in a flood free zone and be pretty much cleansed but that would use a regeneration which he only has so many of It would be hella wicked to watch the 2 super genius' battle
The Doctor regenerates and the spores and pieces of the Flood on him get incinerated. However, the hivemind has enough information from what was left of the connection. It evolves. It learns.
4:26 honestly, I feel like this episode was one of the most human things the doctor has done. Not by his actions, but because of his reasoning; if you knew the future, even if it was inevitable, wouldn’t you try to fix it, no matter what? It doesn’t make sense, but it’s the empathy that humans usually share, only for the bragging and excitement of saving lives and fighting against the timeline to break the Doctor from that. He had a good reason, perhaps, but he came into conflict with the thing that makes him different; the finite determination of humanity. Even when their lives were saved, something that should’ve brought joy, the crew decided the timeline was more important, and sacrificed their lives for the sake of timeline stability. Two conflicting responses, but both very human. One wanted people to keep on living, and the other knew they needed to die. It’s frightening and really sad, but they both make sense in a way.
I believe the Flood are an aquatic nanite experiment created by the ice warriors to try and save their species, but it backfired. The ice warriors froze that glacier for a reason. Kind of like why stars blew up up the umbrella mansion in resident evil, to try and contain it.
My theory is that it's Some kind of slime creature like if A single-celled organism Exponentially grew in mass until eventually, it could be seen without a Microscope, developing the same properties as the water it exists in. Hiding to better attract Food.
Man... When I was a kid in 2012 that was a tv channel here in Brasil, that was passing David Tennants Doctor, and this episode was TERRIFYING back then! Thanks for video
Got this in my reccomendations, the monster design intrigued me, and I found the episode and watched it before the video, discovering, as someone who doesn't watch it, that Doctor Who is actually a really good show. Episode was horrifying and I loved it. Cool vid, am interested in finding out what other very neat monsters Doctor Who has.
This episode was h a u n t i n g for so many reasons! And god i love david tennant, he is such an amazing actor - the tenth doctor's storyline is so tragic and he does such a good job portraying that
if i had a nickel for every time a species ending zombie like disses which was also one of the most scary things in it's universe and was named the Flood, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
This was the point where the doctor realized that for all his power and all his control, all his bluster about being the last one in the universe with power over time, there are still things that shouldnt be done and he found that out with a very hard reality check
Honestly, 'The Water of Mars' is one of the best things I've ever seen in my entire life (and one of the few works of media that I actually end up crying while watching cause of how heart wrenching it gets where you want him to help, but know that he (specifically 10) can't cause he's "The Oncoming Storm" and will take things too far). It is weird though that this is the only time "The Flood" are ever mentioned though considering how many episodes previously (and in the future) take place on Mars and are never even mentioned at all then and in the later ones. I think it's like how the Vashta Nerada are just so incomprehensible type villains (or threats) that they have to be a one off thing cause it would just lessen how horrible and devastating their threat level would actually be.
as someone who has not watched Doctor Who at all, but knows about the series influence on pop culture, I legit thought you were going to talk about a Halo (Xbox Game series) crossover episode or something. XD
What I find most confusing about this episode is the creatures from Father's Day never show up, I thought if you created a paradox in Doctor Who those weird time gargoyle creatures came and started killing a bunch of people.
@@insertname3977 Except he did, he changed the past by saving three people who should have died and history was altered. Even when that captain killed herself it changed from her dying on Mars to dying on Earth. That's what created the problem in Father's Day, Rose saving her father when he should have died.
@Timewarpiaman Except it was more than that, remember Rose ran out in front of her past self and the past doctor to save her father. It wasn't her father dying alone, it was the entire situation surrounding it. Just like when Rose holds herself as a baby and creates another paradox. The Doctor wasn't related to any of those people, he can change human history on a whim.
Your videos are really relaxing to listen to, which is especially nice when I've just started a quite stressful year of college :) (even when said video is about arguable one of the darkest stories in doctor who lol)
This episode has a super grim ending, but still establishes wonderfully that even a godlike being like the Doctor, who dancers around the laws of time and space, cannot change that which is to happen. Despite him managing to save Adelaide and bring her back to Earth in the Tardis, she still takes her own life once she arrives home, fulfilling that which is written as a fixed point in time. No one aboard the Mars mission survives.
When I was first watching doctor who and I finished season 4 I watched The next doctor and the planet of the dead then I looked up if I had to watch all the specials and it said no so I immediately skipped to to the end of time, After watching it for the first time a couple of months ago I genuinely can’t believe I skipped on of the greatest doctor who episodes ever
just as i see this video in my feed it made me think of something. The Flood. Mrs. Flood. maybe a connection? considering we just had RTD have Sue tech = Sutekh i now am theorizing Mrs. Flood is like maybe the queen of The Flood ,like a hivemind and shes here for revenge against the doctor
There’s an episode where they find Satan trapped in a planet suspended in front of a black hole. I don’t think the dr who writers care at all about explaining the universe
His mistake wasn't saving them: he can, and he should. His mistake was taking people that Should've died, right back to Earth, during the same time period. When he should've taken them to another planet. Or far in the future.
the only part i never understood was how does killing herself set things straight? why would her granddaughter be just as inspired by her grandmother killing herself on earth rather than dying on mars? if that’s what she cared about, wouldn’t staying alive to inspire her granddaughter more directly make more sense? either way, ive always loved this episode and the ending gives me the heebie jeebies!
As someone with, like, a decade of sunk cost fallacy behind him with Twitter, it’s not worth it. Especially with where it’s heading now. Better to use something like Bluesky
The midnight entity has done something extremely impressive. It presumably looked into the doctors mind and didn't go insane. The stuff the doctor has seen and endured and experienced would be enough to mentally break most entities out there.
My theory for why Mars is so empty and devoid of life as it does state in the show the ice warriors did experience a situation on their words making it uninhabitable. I think the flood was a parasitic organism that spread like a plauge killing off many of the ice warriors and who was left 2we scattered. It destroyed the world around them and eventually itself causing the flood to go into dormancy till awaken by the colonist.
i legitimately don't know how i got banned can someone msg elon to get me unbanned pls thank u
edit: i called him up we came to an understanding
sorry to hear that bro! but u dont need that to be the 91st dr who fan of all time!
He's not a fan of apples 🤷♂️
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Banned for being the GOAT 😔
just say you got banned for your conservative beliefs and you'll get unbanned
Along with the vashta nerada, the flood is one of the most scariest doctor who villains. Something you don't notice until its too late.
This makes me wonder how the two species would interact, considering their almost polar opposites of each other. Would the flood turn the shadow particles into even more dangerous water vapour? Or would the vashta nerada just eat the flood, thus purifying the water?
Put some respect on the Angels' name.
@@generalbutterscotch4887 The Flood virus would logically be eaten by the Vashta Nerada, by its nature of being alive as an organic lifeform.
@@adamburke4738 the weeping angels are terrifying, I forgot about them lol
@@JustAnAstronautPerson how do you forget the murder statues 😂
My guess as to what The Flood is? A 'gray goo' event. A runaway self-replicating nanomachine that was designed for terraforming, but ran into the "paperclip maximizer" problem - that is to say, became obsessed with turning the planet *habitable* but not *inhabited* - maximizing its habitability by eliminating any inhabitants and converting them into raw resource.
I've always liked the episode - most of it, at least - but the ending felt ham-fisted and carelessly constructed to make a point.
I never thought about it like that dam that makes it even scarier in my opinion
Or maybe it's a specialized pilot to a ship that exploded somewhere in he earth's solar system and remnants of it are just flying through space waiting to splash on any given planet
Always a question with grey goo material given things like stargate- why not everything? Convert the trees to start making water instead of just oxygen. Not that hard to find some extra H2 gas to stick onto O2. In fact, it would be more sound than making blood into water (using what perpetual chemical energy process? Who knows).
Either way, it makes more sense as a sentient virus like halos flood, imo. It's just evil
Like the emoji bots with the 12 doctor
Grey goo, tasty planet
it freaks me out so much that their mouth looks drier than a desert, but is constantly leaking.
Basically your body begins to break apart due to being overly saturated with water. And this happens IRL when you stay in the ocean for too long. Your skin begins to crack and flake away as blood oozes out of the wounds.
@@AmaryInkawultdoes this happen in fresh water or is it connected with the salt? I read some stuff in biology class about high/low salt content in water doing nasty things to cells
@dogf421 this happens in HEAVILY mineralized water, like the ocean. So yes, it's the salt. You get a lesser effect on your skin in fresher water. Your skin starts cracking in ocean water but wrinkly in pool/river water. While it's not good to stay too long in either, ocean water will fuck you up fast as it dehydrates you. Whereas river water is relatively harmless, you need to stay in water for more than a day for it to whittle your cells in river water. It takes less than a day in the ocean. It's why there are few survivors from seabound crashes are found IN the water after more than a day. The skin would have broken and bled by then, and sharks are attracted to that sweet red nectar.
😭@@AmaryInkawult
@@AmaryInkawult Not the type of thing I should be reading on Christmas...
The biggest unsolved mystery is the midnight entity. All we know is it can survive on a planet that nothing should survive on and mimics.
that'd be a good video
@@dwfan91-0wo
my interpretation is that, it's actually a bottom feeder in the planet, something more akin to leech, parasite, harmful but not outright deadly, the planet is actually filled with superintelligent being unable to be perceived by human eyes, and midnight entity evolved it's mimic ability to pretend to be one of them while consuming their mind in an unsignificant manner, if they're caught they're dead meat, they however can kill human because human mind is weaker
I watched that episode at night when it came out… it traumatized me to this day the episode creeps me the hell out.
@@ShadeSlayer1911 yes
the 10th doctor had by far some of the darkest and scariest villians, even more than the 9th, but you just dont notice so much because of davids incredibly light hearted preformance
midnight
It's like watching a puppy chase a ball through a field except the field is on fire because this is actually hell.
“What are the flood”
A monument to your sins
Arbiter: “What is it More Brutes”
Chief: “Worse”
Lmao
Shipmaster: *sniff sniff*
Arbiter: "What is it."
Shipmaster: "That stench, I've smelled it before"
@@stephensylvarwolf7940I love that my brain can just hear that line😭
Oh no
you know its about to go down when the doctor is wearing the orange spacesuit
nah fr
For some reason I was like'' WAIT THE FLOD FROM HALO ARE IN DOCTOR WHO''😂
A Flood-infected dalek would be complete and utter nightmare fuel-
Nightmare fuel.
This scared the shit out of me when I was a kid
scare the sh1t outta me even now😂
I couldn't sleep the night I watched it 😅
Me too! Came upon it on accident and had thought it was a scary movie.
Same
I remember I thought this episode was about carrot monsters. I mean the guy ate a carrot and turmed😢
It’s interesting watching The Waters of Mars back to back with The Fires of Pompeii
Need an "Airs of x" and "Earths of x" now
But why? You don't get any explanation for why Donna suddenly isnt with the Doctor, by doing that.
@ I’m not suggesting a new viewer watch just those two episodes, I’m saying they present an interesting contrast when considered together.
This episode got me so intrigued as I kid because in Australia it was M rated. It felt like a forbidden fruit or someting.
I'm not saying it's m rated caused Australia has reddish soil and there's a possible cryptid along the lines of the flood but everything is an onion and maybe the flood was inspired by it's folklore but placed in mars
The only one of those Volume DVDs to be in the mature section at the Library.
@lbricks7631 OMG, I watched doctor who from dvds at the local library too
@@dandywaysoflivingNah, it's because Australia is a nanny state, who's government believes that society would break down if they let the people have even a little say in what goes on.
@@Scorecatronthe government made a deal with the wildlife,
The second scariest alien parasite to be called the flood
fellow cultured individual 🤝🤝
@@DeXyferonot really, the dw flood can be frozen, the only way the forerunners stopped halos flood was by killing all life in the galaxy along with themselves, although keeping spores of them on the halo rings does kinda dullen the idea of the rings in the first place
Think the issue with reusing the flood is that you kinda have an Angel issue, where you might lose the fear factor they once had. Admittingly I am still waiting for them to show their heads in Big Finish, all things considered it wouldn´t be the first sentient water alien they used. I personally like to think of them as somthing like the SAX from the Metroid series, where the Ice Warriors serve as a species perfectly made to counter the Flood who just happen to be an invasive species on mars.
Imma be real, I prefer Time of Angels to Blink and don't think the Weeping Angels coming back is a bad idea, but I don't want the Flood to come back. They work well as a one-off.
I think it is scary. As it's likely just a disease and even freezing might have only trapped it in a spore like stasis until warm air and life awakens the pathogen again. Meaning that even millions of years frozen might not end the flood.
For me, the creepiest scene is when Yuri is in the foreground happily talking about his family, while in the background we see Maggie start to shake, then stop, and then have the flood fully reveal itself.
To this day I honestly think that the flood is the scariest monster in Doctor Who history as well as it being one of the scariest episodes of all time. But it is one of the best episodes of all time.
Where was Master Chief when you needed him Doc? 😭
I was very ill when Waters of Mars aired, and the sight of them blasting water from their mouths set me off. 15 years later and I still feel a bit queasy when I see it.
The Flood is one of those all time Doctor who monsters. It appeared once, as far as I know, but I will never forget about them.
every clip ever from the first modern era of the show has such incredible scoring behind it. Murray gold is a music god
I agree, Series 1 in particular has my favourite soundtrack. Something so eerie and sinister about it. I love Murray Gold
Murray Gold just slaps.
If I had a nickel for every time an infection that creates zombies and was completely sentient, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's kind of weird that it happened twice.
I’d have like 20
Well the weird thing is, they were named the flood, twice. And temporarily? stopped exploding an entire thing twice. Weird.
More than 2
The more you think the more similar to the flood it is and you start to question things a little
Ok so the Ice Warriors get their name in their 1st appearance from Humans who see some warriors stuck in ice. There is some absolute brutal irony that The Ice Warriors would be trapped and get their name from the very thing they used to defeat The Flood: ice.
I found this Virus, The Flood, more terrifying than The Daleks, The Cybermen even The Weeping Angles, simply because they are somewhat survivable, but this thing, one tiny drop or even a little spatter and you're dead, turned into a semi-mindless drone and the transformation is almost instantaneous and looks painful. This episode is so good because of how scary it is, it felt different from your average Doctor Who episode, to this day it is still regarded as one of the greatest episodes ever put to a tv screen
Dude literally found out God was real by having to play a sudden death mind game with Satan.
My understanding was that the flood WAS the water, thinking of it as a pathogen makes far less mysterious
Hey on that note remember what happened to Bill Potts? Season 10 episode 5? No? Ahh ok then
how could they be the water that doesnt make sense
@@dwfan91- they're 2 kinds of space water that have a mind of their own it really doesn't take much thought
Its possible that the floods planet was destroyed so its plan was to colonize another and it eventually set its sights on Mars
The Martians proclaiming themselves as the ice warriors fought back against it and froze the flood only for humans to rediscover it years after
Its possible droplets of the flood landed on earth (and maybe other planets too) but because it wasn't part of the main source Its sole purpose became finding the original colony
Since the original colony is either dehydrated or frozen it pretty much just roams the stars attempting to find its other half
this could also make its hold over individuals weaker and allow them to converse with it better than just becoming mindless subjects who've probably died
@@dwfan91- I can't really explain how it could be the water, nor would I be able to explain why a virus/disease is able to create infinate water by infecting a human.
Humans have very watery bodies what the flood seemed to do was kill those infected and use them as puppets, manipulating the body through water pressure
It's the whoverse, considering the fact that the moon is an egg I didn't think sentient water is that much of a stretch
How would a filter do anything then?
The real mystery is why Murray Gold never released all the new songs from this episode… man, the track that plays while the Doctor fights against history is so good!
Most likely, he does not own the copyright.
Ah! The S-tier Who villain. Along with Vashta Nerad, Weeping Angels and waters of Mars. But there's something above them. The midnight entity. Who could have literally killed the doctor, if not for some kind woman to sacrifice herself and throw it out of the vehicle.
Also like, literally Satan lmao. The thing they had to throw in a black hole.
I absolutely loved the moment when Andy is so astonished at the miracle they had achieved by growing crops on mars, when he says "Eden, thats what we should've called this place"
Ok, post watching but yeah I'm pretty sure the ice warriors or another space faring race created the flood as a terraforming agent and it either got out of control or was forgotten about, oh, maybe when a race of reptilians had to go into hiding because of an ice age or something and abandoned their attempts to terraform mars but left the project running...
The other thing that's really important about this episode is that it sets the stage for the whole reboot starting with nine.
Nine kept running into situations where the history of earth had been altered and he didn't know why...
Because he was the one who decided he didn't have to follow the rules of time in this episode and sent everything sideways.
"What are The Flood?"
A monument to all our sins
Okay, so I've always had this totally inconsequential theory but I love it interests me. Seeing this video, I was reminded of one of my biggest questions of the episode. Why was Maggie's infection so different from the others?
Now, whilst we see several infections towards the end of the episode, we only really see three infections for long scale; Maggie, Andy and Tarak. So only these three are really long enough to use for comparison. We saw that Maggie was very much more aware or sentient than the other two and the Doctor even makes a point of mentioning it, but we are never given a reason. She even has different eyes to the male infected we see. Furthermore, we do briefly see Steffi's infection and she seems to have the same eyes as Maggies.
However, we know that the Flood were frozen in the ice by the Ice Warriors, we know that they had some contact with one and another. We also know from classic who and "The Empress of Mars" that the ancient Martian Ice Warriors were a matriarchal species, with a Queen in charge, like a Bee Hive or an Ant nest. So, my idea is, what if the Flood virus used this? What if it specifically evolved like this; to treat the men of a species like drones and the female of a species like a hive queen - because that's what it was used to with the Ice Warriors? So then when it got involved with humanity it just got confused and made all the women "queens" and all the men "drones"
Its not a massively important point, but it explains a question that always made me curious. Thoughts?
great theory
Pretty sure some guy called Master Chef had to break some rings because of them or something
master chef onion rings
I assume waters of marz got lots of children in 2009 nervous about drinking tap water.
0:28 I recognize that droning track anywhere. That’s the FNAF 1 title screen music.
I ADORED this episode to bits when it first came out. Just wish there was more like it. Such a brilliant setting, effects and monsters.
Whilst I adore all of Dr Who some more than others ....the first RTD era literally hits so different like for 5 years it delivered pure platinum gold weekly ....and the fact TWOM I watched....it was the final time as a family of 5 we watched Dr Who ....my father got realky ill and passed away Christmas holidays 2009 my life changed forever ....this special was my mood, my vibe my depression manifested in a pure horror episode....I do wish these specials were contained in series 4 box set too as TWOM is a masterpiece in art form in so many ways that I feel gets overlooked at times... But excellent ....just excellent sadly I don't think Dr who will dare to go that dark again ....like genuinely ....this was exceptional and I'm thankful this was watched by 10 million people on prime time ...absolute art 💙💙
This is also known as the "obligatory zombie episode".
ONE SINGLE FLOOD SPORE CAN DESTROY A SPECIES
The flood creep me out more than the weeping angels. Like you, zombies are creepy af to me, so yeah I don't fuck with the flood.
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my headcannon is that they are nano machines trying to create an ocean on mars so that the aliens that created them can colonize the planet.
I almost wonder if this is the reason in-universe Mars is a desert.
To this day I always find it really interesting how similar The Flood from The Waters of Mars are to The Flood from Halo.
Both are sentient pathogens that are able to infect with contact from just a single molecule of their infective form touching a host, both can infect rapidly or take their time, and both are incredibly resilient and pose a colossal threat if allowed to leave their habitats.
Hell, They both even can communicate through their hosts to either trick or screw with potential new victims. Part of me wonders if The Flood from DW were inspired by The Flood from Halo due to the similarities and natures of both, or if it’s just a sheer coincidence.
Even if it is not a direct insipration i bet my money some of the writers played halo and just made things similar without knowing. It kinda happens to everyone when trying to do something new, you pick things and mix them up from your experience. I like this version of it too given it is water and not a phisycal parasite that difference is cool af imo
Now imagine if the flood from halo encountered the doctor the stakes would be crazy high since if he was infected the flood would have so much knowledge they could not be stopped
I'd assume he'd just have to regenerate in a flood free zone and be pretty much cleansed but that would use a regeneration which he only has so many of
It would be hella wicked to watch the 2 super genius' battle
The Doctor regenerates and the spores and pieces of the Flood on him get incinerated. However, the hivemind has enough information from what was left of the connection. It evolves. It learns.
4:26 honestly, I feel like this episode was one of the most human things the doctor has done. Not by his actions, but because of his reasoning; if you knew the future, even if it was inevitable, wouldn’t you try to fix it, no matter what? It doesn’t make sense, but it’s the empathy that humans usually share, only for the bragging and excitement of saving lives and fighting against the timeline to break the Doctor from that. He had a good reason, perhaps, but he came into conflict with the thing that makes him different; the finite determination of humanity. Even when their lives were saved, something that should’ve brought joy, the crew decided the timeline was more important, and sacrificed their lives for the sake of timeline stability. Two conflicting responses, but both very human. One wanted people to keep on living, and the other knew they needed to die. It’s frightening and really sad, but they both make sense in a way.
I believe the Flood are an aquatic nanite experiment created by the ice warriors to try and save their species, but it backfired. The ice warriors froze that glacier for a reason. Kind of like why stars blew up up the umbrella mansion in resident evil, to try and contain it.
"I? I am a monument to all your sins."
Definitely one of the best revived Dr Who stories. The Time Lord Victorious showing why he should not be alone.
idk I think the midnight entity is a bigger mystery, but Waters of Mars is definitely one of the greatest episodes since 2005.
My theory is that it's Some kind of slime creature like if A single-celled organism Exponentially grew in mass until eventually, it could be seen without a Microscope, developing the same properties as the water it exists in. Hiding to better attract Food.
bro this is one of the only creatures in doctor who that i find equally as scary now as i did when i first saw them
And then Master Chief blew up the Gravemind, thus stopping... woops, wrong panel. I think mine is down the hallway.
Man... When I was a kid in 2012 that was a tv channel here in Brasil, that was passing David Tennants Doctor, and this episode was TERRIFYING back then! Thanks for video
Clearly the vengeance of the Precursors made manifest. The Forerunners will know woe and pain.
Got this in my reccomendations, the monster design intrigued me, and I found the episode and watched it before the video, discovering, as someone who doesn't watch it, that Doctor Who is actually a really good show. Episode was horrifying and I loved it. Cool vid, am interested in finding out what other very neat monsters Doctor Who has.
This episode was h a u n t i n g for so many reasons!
And god i love david tennant, he is such an amazing actor - the tenth doctor's storyline is so tragic and he does such a good job portraying that
My favorite Doctor. This guy went on some heart wrenchers
You wanna know the best part about this episode for me? This was my _first_ introduction to the Doctor Who franchise. What a way to start, huh?
The guy from the thumbnail looks like he just finished the 1000 warhead sour candy challenge.
if i had a nickel for every time a species ending zombie like disses which was also one of the most scary things in it's universe and was named the Flood, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
They’re fungi-like stuff from Halo CE
unironically you got some of the best sound mixing on youtube
Ay imagine being a space explorer thinking your the first person somewhere and while your exploring you just see an old phone booth.
This was the point where the doctor realized that for all his power and all his control, all his bluster about being the last one in the universe with power over time, there are still things that shouldnt be done and he found that out with a very hard reality check
This episode makes me remember how stupid humanity as a whole is as well.
I love the idea of the flood especially since they're so similar to the halo version of the same name
A single Flood spore can destroy an entire- oh wait wrong franchise
Honestly, 'The Water of Mars' is one of the best things I've ever seen in my entire life (and one of the few works of media that I actually end up crying while watching cause of how heart wrenching it gets where you want him to help, but know that he (specifically 10) can't cause he's "The Oncoming Storm" and will take things too far). It is weird though that this is the only time "The Flood" are ever mentioned though considering how many episodes previously (and in the future) take place on Mars and are never even mentioned at all then and in the later ones. I think it's like how the Vashta Nerada are just so incomprehensible type villains (or threats) that they have to be a one off thing cause it would just lessen how horrible and devastating their threat level would actually be.
as someone who has not watched Doctor Who at all, but knows about the series influence on pop culture, I legit thought you were going to talk about a Halo (Xbox Game series) crossover episode or something.
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What I find most confusing about this episode is the creatures from Father's Day never show up, I thought if you created a paradox in Doctor Who those weird time gargoyle creatures came and started killing a bunch of people.
He didn't create a paradox though.
@@insertname3977 Except he did, he changed the past by saving three people who should have died and history was altered.
Even when that captain killed herself it changed from her dying on Mars to dying on Earth. That's what created the problem in Father's Day, Rose saving her father when he should have died.
@Timewarpiaman Except it was more than that, remember Rose ran out in front of her past self and the past doctor to save her father. It wasn't her father dying alone, it was the entire situation surrounding it. Just like when Rose holds herself as a baby and creates another paradox. The Doctor wasn't related to any of those people, he can change human history on a whim.
@@insertname3977 I guess that makes sense but it still seems like a paradox to have two people alive who should be dead by all accounts.
@Timewarpiaman I mean he's always doing that.
This shit made nine year old me scared of the rain for about 6 months
everyone talks about the Weeping Angels when they talk about Dr. Who scary villains
Nah. My mind keeps coming back to this. This is horrifying
Top 3 creepiest DW eps imo.
Your videos are really relaxing to listen to, which is especially nice when I've just started a quite stressful year of college :)
(even when said video is about arguable one of the darkest stories in doctor who lol)
Thank you so much, good luck on your college course you gonna smash it🙏
This episode has a super grim ending, but still establishes wonderfully that even a godlike being like the Doctor, who dancers around the laws of time and space, cannot change that which is to happen. Despite him managing to save Adelaide and bring her back to Earth in the Tardis, she still takes her own life once she arrives home, fulfilling that which is written as a fixed point in time. No one aboard the Mars mission survives.
Vasta Nerada, and The Flood are fantastic.
Wait 'til you hear about HALO's “Flood”. Even worse
One single spore...
When I was first watching doctor who and I finished season 4 I watched The next doctor and the planet of the dead then I looked up if I had to watch all the specials and it said no so I immediately skipped to to the end of time, After watching it for the first time a couple of months ago I genuinely can’t believe I skipped on of the greatest doctor who episodes ever
I loved the 25 days later reference too when the single drop of water drops from the ceiling
just as i see this video in my feed it made me think of something. The Flood. Mrs. Flood. maybe a connection? considering we just had RTD have Sue tech = Sutekh i now am theorizing Mrs. Flood is like maybe the queen of The Flood ,like a hivemind and shes here for revenge against the doctor
Martian invasion of Earth!! That'd be a great way to bring in Ice Warriors too-
I'll tell you what they are, fucking terrifying is what.
There’s an episode where they find Satan trapped in a planet suspended in front of a black hole. I don’t think the dr who writers care at all about explaining the universe
This is my absolutely favorite episode. It hits really hard.
I insisted on watching this episode when it came out. I was 6 years old and it traumatised me for ages. Now it's one of my favourite episodes!
OBVIOUSLY, they're a brand new record from 1990, They Might Be Giants brand new album, Flood!
His mistake wasn't saving them: he can, and he should.
His mistake was taking people that Should've died, right back to Earth, during the same time period.
When he should've taken them to another planet.
Or far in the future.
15 views, two minutes ago? Oh boy, I'm early!
Love hearing people talk about the Flood, such a terrifying episode.
clearly the flood are the halo enemies problem solved : )
the only part i never understood was how does killing herself set things straight? why would her granddaughter be just as inspired by her grandmother killing herself on earth rather than dying on mars? if that’s what she cared about, wouldn’t staying alive to inspire her granddaughter more directly make more sense? either way, ive always loved this episode and the ending gives me the heebie jeebies!
As someone with, like, a decade of sunk cost fallacy behind him with Twitter, it’s not worth it. Especially with where it’s heading now. Better to use something like Bluesky
It’s a very distinctly 10 story. Or - It’s a story that I could never imagine happening with 9. And that’s good! It’s excellent.
The Flood (Doctor Who) vs The Flood (Halo), who would win?
It's honestly an episode that wouldn't work without all the decades of history the Doctor has.
Well thanks I can’t drink water without a mild panic about becoming one of the flood
This is one of the main things that have haunted me, and made me absolutly terrified of zombies. And yet, dr who is one of my favourite shows
This episode was the first doctor who episode I ever watched when I was seven. Needless to say I haven’t watched doctor who since.
When Bill looked down into the puddle in her first episode, i really expected what ended up being heather to be the flood coming back
“I am a monument to all your sins.”
The midnight entity has done something extremely impressive. It presumably looked into the doctors mind and didn't go insane. The stuff the doctor has seen and endured and experienced would be enough to mentally break most entities out there.
I had the headcannon that this story created the Silence, the force born to maintain the Doctor in check.
My theory for why Mars is so empty and devoid of life as it does state in the show the ice warriors did experience a situation on their words making it uninhabitable.
I think the flood was a parasitic organism that spread like a plauge killing off many of the ice warriors and who was left 2we scattered.
It destroyed the world around them and eventually itself causing the flood to go into dormancy till awaken by the colonist.
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