The fact Akainu is so hated people began to downplay him shows how well Oda wrote him as a villain. This is the only man to break the main character's will and permanently change his appearance. He may not be the most significant/final villain but he is undeniably the villain to leave the biggest impact on Luffy and Oda won't disappoint in resolving that.
@@LegendSergioKizaru personally didn't do anything to Luffy, he was busy with the dark king. kuma to, brought Luffy to depression, but not to the breaking point. after Marinford, Luffy was crushed so much that he practically gave up the dream of his whole life. if it wasn't for Jimbei, Luffy would most likely have followed the path of moria or crocodile. And this is what no mugiwara enemy could do to Luffy, either before akainu or after.
i think from a narrative perspective, people need to understand that if akainu gets mid diffed or low diffed by yonko, then literally what is the point of having a fleet admiral or an admiral? if the difference between the top tiers of the navy and the yonko are that vast then why hasn't the navy been taken out? people let their own hatred for akainu cloud their judgement. akainu was giving everyone smoke during marineford. sure, whitebeard was old and sick, but at the end of the day, a sick whitebeard is still a yonko. and not only that, akainu fought pretty much all of the commanders and crocodile, and he came out perfectly okay. nothing of what whitebeard or his commanders did could put akainu down and out.
Well I do think Fleet Admiral and Yonko are reletive in power but the fact is Marines top tiers fight together while Yonko fights against Marines as well as the other Yonko. If all 4 Yonko fights togather (which they'll never) then that's the end of Marines. I already expected or though about WG to have another fraction of power if Marines ever got taken out in the off case Yonko team up. I believed Gorosei have to be fighters as well. But now after listening about God knights I think they have enough defenses for themselves.
true, Even Roger said send sengoku or garp if u want to capture me. A fleet admiral is relative in power to a pirate king. An admiral is relative in power to an yonko
I don't think that's the end of Marines. They got world gov and gorosei backing them up too. Even yonkou and revolutionary army combined will have a hard time. The Marines and world gov ARE THE WHOLE WORLD basically. Few yonkou with a few islands isnt gonna beat the whole world. I think each admiral is a relative match to each yonkou, or at least the original 3. The warlords(and extra admirals) were meant to help counter the commanders and other lower but still annoying pirates.
I'm really curious about Akainu's hat. I have a theory that his hat was given to him by whoever inspired him to become a marine, just like Shanks gave the strawhat to Luffy. Something may have happen to his hometown, most likely by pirates, and there were some marines there trying to protect the hometown, however they weren't strong enough and the pirates ended up destroying his hometown, plundered everything, and left. Whoever gave him the hat could've been marine relative, or someone he admired, and in his dying breath, he gave Akainu that hat. Which is probably why he never takes it off. It probably holds really great significance to him, just like the strawhat holds great significance to Luffy
akainu so downplayed man, the only man to take down 2 top tiers and make another monster run from him, people are starting to get ridiculous saying people like ben beckmann are stronger than him, this guy is an endgame threat and not enough people respect the goat. W VID 🙏🙏
Back in the day I believed theories that, for example, Garp could easily kill Akainu. But now that I think back to it, Whitebeard was matched with both Akainu and Kizaru- Kizaru was nearly completely unharmed and managed to land some strong blows on WB, while Akainu did so much damage it pretty much ensured WB's death before being knocked to the ground- but neither knocked out, nor taken out of equation for long, just wounded. Neither of these confrontations suggested an insane difference in strenght, in fact they both looked like Yonko and Admirals are practically matched. So even back in Marineford, admirals were nearly if not equally on par with a Yonko. I refuse to believe the strongest of them three isn't above yonko level.
Think u brought up a very underrated feat when Blackbeard was scared of engaging Kuzan even though he had members of his crew with him vs just one guy. Also makes it clear that Blackbeard running away from Akainu is very consistent in a scaling sense.
That is true however I would say that it is important that he met Kuzan later on in the timeskip as Kuzan had his battle injuries so it is possible Blackbeard got stronger as was not as scared of the admirals anymore
@@FlawlessWallace3350 Of course. All it shows is that BB holds the power of at least the og admirals in high regard especially considering that we know he was hunting DFs at the time and he never even tried to steal Kuzans power even though it is one of the strongest on earth.
@@matthiasrauert8397because he wanted the whole package I mean the former admiral + his df. That means he has admirals skills 6 path skills(eg. Finger pisto) Advance form of haki ultimate combat skills + awakened mastery of logia fruit
@@subrattasingpho5616 For me this scene was more about the narrative. In my view it was different from every other time we see someone join a crew. To me at least it was more Kuzan wanting to work with BB for his own goals than work under him, his interactions with Garp and the Marines also support that. I don't even wanna go into if he is stronger or as strong as BB like I said its more about the narrative that makes me think that Kuzan doesn't rly see himself as a follower of BB but rather going along with what he does as long as it suits him, rdy to turn on him at any moment. Just my oppinion though.
Yeah only the fake scan users make the attempt to assert that by using statements that don't even exist. Akainu is underrated in General fandom but meat rided worse than Sanji by his individual fandom.
Great breakdown of Akainu's feats. A lot of people usually go under the assumption that the scaling in OP goes Commanders < Admirals < Yonko; being based off the fact that Marineford featured 3 admirals vs. one Yonko. The fact is that each ORIGINAL admiral would give each ORIGINAL Yonko a high-extreme diff fight that could go either way. Kidd and Law took down Big Mom, however you could make an argument that Kidd and Law would lose to Kuzan, who is a much more seasoned fighter than Big Mom. (Yes BM was apart of the ROCKS group, but for decades she's been depcited as a sitting duck in her territory eating confections all day.) As it stands, the opponents Luffy will have to face in the future will end up being at the level of Big Mom and Kaido, given that the series is in the final saga. Akainu by the time he confronts Luffy (which he will 100%), will be on par with Kaido; no debate.
To go on a tangent, Big mom is probably a shadow of her former self. Remember, Kaido didn't even bat an eyelid at just unchaining her. Which means he was absolutely confident that not only was she weaker than him at that point, she wouldn't have caused too much damage to his base...
@@herplederpledoodledoo she was old and was suffering from level III obesity and diabetes, she was also highly confident as she was in her prime but in reality she was far below from her prime, peole think that oda nerfed bigmom but that actually wasn't the case. also, bigmom punching law at the end was a filler scene...
But at Marineford, Aokiji, Kizaru and Akainu each fought against WB 1v1... and were winning in their individual skirmishes. While WB was _heavily_ nerfed, I don't see how someone - and I'm not claiming you have done this - can read/watch the Marineford arc and conclude that Yonko > Admirals, when they're relative in strength. *Admirals vs WB at Marineford:* 1) Aokiji froze WB for a few moments, prompting Jozu to catch Aokiji with a sneak attack. 2) Kizaru wasn't touched be WB and got a few free hits in before Marco jumped in. 3) Akainu beat the absolute _brakes_ off WB (especially smashing of part of WB's face in the manga) to the point that WB's only clean hit - while extremely strong - was only landed while *Akainu had his back turned.* And even after eating that huge hit, Akainu took on almost all of WB's Commanders + Ivankov solo (he even mocked Vista and Marco - who are strong in their own right - of not having haki stronf enough to hurt him).
Akainu is stated to be the world strongest marine in data books if I can recall.This makes him stronger than prime garp. Its just that the community hates him so much due to his masterful donut baking that they heavily downplay his feats.
@@pscslsprime garp is old garp lol being old in one piece don't make someone physically weaker the only argument you can say is his twitch speed which he stated got slower, he never said anything about his strength
People seem to always downplaying The Admirals. They always make petty excuse to justify that Yonko are more stronger that Admirals, and one of them is that; If The Admirals Are Stronger That Yonko! Why They Don't Attack The Yonko!? The simplest answer is Politics. As long as the Yonkors do not interfere in government affairs, the Gorosei and Admirals will have no reason to persecute them. It is obvious that The Admirals are on the same level as the Yonkor or are more powerful than them. Of course, not all Admirals are at the same levels. Green Bull is new and prefers the easier path and decides to turn around when Shank shows up. But Kizaru, Aokiji and Akainu are obviously the strongest because Akainu is their leader, and none of them show fear when facing The Yonkos and their Crews. And after Timeskip it's obvious that both Aokiji and Akainu became stronger, I mean, Aokiji easily defeated the Blackbeard Pirates and strike fear on Blackbeard even though Blackbeard has two Devil Fruits, and Aokiji easily defeated Big Mom Crew. So it's obvious that both Aokiji and Akainu have gotte stronger as Kizaru is probably getting stronger as well and judging by Egghead Isla Arc, Gear 5 Luffy took him by surprise as Kizaru was more focused on Vegank Punk than in fighting Luffy.
I think Akainu being above Sengoku and Garp makes even more sense when you factor the fact that every single time the OG 3 Admirals are talked about they're called the marines strongest fighters/force which would make them above Garp and Sengoku, also Teach was not afraid of going toe to toe with Sengoku and Garp yet as soon as he heard that Akainu pulled up he said "f that we getting out of here" and if that wasn't enough the man is legit stated to and i quote (that's legit in front of my eyes) "stand at the top of *all* generations of marines" . No wonder they call him the red dog because he got that dawg in him
Another thing to be said is that oden got caught off guard and got one shit, akainu got up and started soloing the commanders. Imagine if oden got back up and solo'd jack, queen and king
Been saying this for years. The mere fact that he exists as a future problem for Luffy and made the fleet admiral automatically puts him on Yonko level or means he will be brought to Yonko level.
I think Akainus big final saga fight will be against Dragon. The leader of the Marines vs the leader of the Revolutionaries. Oda has really positioned himself well, because for many characters like Mihawk, Dragon, Akainu and Blackbeard he can kinda make them as strong as he needs them to be. For instance he can give them Advanced Conquerors Haki, because he never denied they didn't have it. But, yes Akainu has the devil fruit with the most AP, the dog-like mentality, the endurance to fight for 10 days straight, he has already shown some form of advanced Armament and Observation. He will most definitely get ACoc confirmed now that it is an established abilitiy. He has also shown great durability and Oda can just make him as durable as the story requires. I have him at number 4-6 right now. Settled on number 5 for now in the current verse.
The Revs have made it clear that their target aren’t the world government but the ones in charge so idk how and why Dragon would feel to need to face Akainu imo.
@@zagessj I felt some history between Akainu and Dragon in Marineford. Akainu was obsessed with Luffy and was constantly refeering to him as Dragons son and nothing else. They are also around the same age range. So if it gets revealed that Dragon started of in the Marines and then quit due to reasons, than it gives the match up even more of a chance. Also The Marines, especially the Admirals are still the WGs main fighting force. Also I don't think Luffy vs Akainu will be a Kaido style long fight. Luffy has Blackbeard and Imu to fight. I think Shanks will fight Garling, due to him being family, Dragon vs Akainu. But of course this is a lot of headcannon. I guess we will see.
Akainu Pre timeskip was already Yonko level. He simply wasn’t able to go all out and only lost that exchange against WB because of Oda giving the fans satisfaction for Ace death. That’s why he let WB sneak attack him instead of fighting him straight on because when wb did that Akainu handled him easily. Other than that sneak attack Akainu literally solod an entire Yonko crew. Pre timeskip Akainu is one of the most underrated characters of all time, and post timeskip there is no doubt in my mind that he is among the strongest ever surpassing Prime Garp since he has to be a stronger enemy for Luffy than Garp was for Roger. Otherwise the story doesn’t make sense.
Surpasing prime Garp? Are you kidding? Garp is capable of using 3 types of haki and the advance technique of it. We saw how Shanks nullified his magma power jud using haki do you think Garp can't do that? Garp has a strong haki that strong enough to obliterate a town.
Put akainu in wb position and I guarantee he will get demolished. Starting the fight with a chest stab wound then get a heart attack leaving u open for attacks
@@armonsoregaw2040 cringe casual 🤦🏻♂️ you pretty much ignored everything in the video otherwise you wouldn’t be typing such a du** comment. I have no time for casuals like you go play somewhere else
Everyone is going to be stronger than the previous gen bro. And Garp has no devil fruits or anything, just his will. That makes him the GOAT if you compare both new and old eos. Since the new generation relies a lot on fruits, powers, etc. (Blackbeard had to have 3 fruits just to make it), It reminds me of our gen with the old one now that I am thinking of it. Old times were raw. Now our gen need extra sauce. Also, I believe the modern mirroring of "Garp's character" is going to be Coby. (Storywise and not power)
@@DUCKYDUCK862I wouldn't say everbody, I think only the strongest of the new generation will surpass characters like Xebec, Whitebeard, Roger, Oden, Rayleigh, Sengoku, Shiki and Garp all in their primes, I don't think that privilege goes to everybody, in fact I think a small few of the new generation are gonna surpass these guys
Bruh I have not seen any yonko do something like Akainu at the end of marineford, its even more impressive than Kaido in the roof before the final fight He treated Ace like childs play Got surprise attacked by enraged Whitebeard and gave the man the death wound in the process Came back and was unimpressed with Marco + Vista Off screened Ivankov One shotted Jinbe And then he fought the entirety of the Whitebeard commander plus Crocodile who was on fire in that arc And he not only wasnt pushed back, HE WAS WINNING Curiel was defeated and Akainu didnt even look tires he was MORE MOTIVATED After Shanks showed up he just stood there while the other admirals kept attacking Luffy cause he took the responsability of taking on Shanks if the fight started Thats insane Blackbeard rolled up and Sengoku stopped the war, but we dont see Akainu stepping back or anything, if the fight really went on he was planning on taking Shanks, at least thats what his position tells us since theres no speaking
More impressive than kaido hahahahhahsh this dude get two shotts by a old sick diyng nerfed wb in marineford is not even close to kaido stop with this nosense
@@foaka4404wdym? Not only did akianu at multiple points over power old whitebeard and give him life threatening moves But he was holding back aswell Reminder when all three admirals used advanced ryuo to stop the tital wave coming towards them akianu literally told kizaru and kuzan to hold back so they wouldn't destroy teh entire island Plus the fact that whitebeard who caught akianu off guard and hit him with his strongest attack Only sent him down a canyon and he got back up like nothing happened Only bleeding a bit
Addition: Now that it looks more and more like Shanks still has either World Noble status, or the ability to black mail the Elder Stars like Doflamingo could, it makes sense that Akainu would call off the war when Shanks showed up. He's absolutely obsessed with law(as in order, not Trafalgar) as much as killing pirates, and the orders of the celestials and Elder Stars are enough to keep him on a leash despite his temper. He probably has some idea of Shanks' past, but not the full story, which means his loyalty to the government won't let him pick a fight with Shanks even if he wanted to...
@@herplederpledoodledoo Yeah we cant be sure about it But he says "Akagami" at the moment as if Shanks showing up would get in his way Wich is either because fighting him wouldnt be easy at all and Luffy would still escape Or because of the celestial status I think people overestimate how much Akainu likes the Tenryubito tho He called the Gorosei "dogs of the celestial dragons" and didnt give a fuck So I dont think he respects them too much anyway, he clearly doesnt like either of those But Im sure he believes the system is necessary to bring justice to the world
@@foaka4404 Kaido was on the ground bleeding out from an attack of the scabbards Oh but youre gonna tell me he got back up Well, same with akainu brother, youre just biased Maybe youre an anime watcher and you got things wrong If Akainu was really knocked out or defeated he would have fallen into the sea He didnt, he kept chasing Luffy wich is what he was doing before Whitebeard interrupted For it to be a "two shot" like people say, he would have to be defeated, and he wasnt Unless you also count Kaido falling to the ground as a defeat, wich you will agree its not.
Agree though what Tsuru said is to be taken more metaphorically i think. I think she meant this event will have such an impact on the world that it would be impossible to hide from the consequences.
they literally showed tremors and stuff happening all around the world. based off ace’s Novel whitebeard is quite literally capable of destroying islands just from getting angry. If he were to use some type of quake awakening than shit does get hectic. He’s literally a walking national disaster waiting to happen. You gotta understand that the one piece world is made up of a large body of water aswell, if he can manipulate his quakes and create tsunamis on end than shit would damn near be close enough ig
I don’t know why people think the marines would be weaker in an era where there are more pirates than ever. It makes no sense for the marine top tiers of today to be far weaker than the old gen marines like Sengoku and Garp. At the end of the day Oda stated Akainu was the strongest marine in history a couple of years ago. People like to say this was not true but at the end of the day that is just fandom refusal to believe author notes.
@@Naldinho456 In Crossguild, Mihawk stands as the lone titan, towering even above Luffy in strength. But if somehow Luffy manages to hold his ground against Mihawk, then having Zoro, Sanji, and Jinbe on board is like having a trio of wrecking balls ready to sweep away the rest of the Crossguild pirates. It's like playing chess with a grandmaster and having three knights in your arsenal!
@@kingxanime8603 bold of you to assume croc and Daz bones haven't gotten stronger through 2 yrs bold of you to assume that buggy doesn't have 100 million bounty pirates at his disposal mihawk whoops luffy croc Daz bones can handle sanji and zoro and the rest of the 100 million bounty pirates aren't going to overwhelm the rest of the straw hats only ussop saves them
Did he say whitebeard splitting marine ford in half was the most destructive attack in the series? In the same arc Mihawk split and ice berg that was more than twice the size of marine ford
W video. I think Akainu is in top 3 current strongest characters. The only 2 character who can be above him are Imu and Dragon(maybe) P. S. I'm sure that Papazuki will show awakening and very powerful ACoC.
Sakazuki will almost undoubtedly be a more dangerous, more deadly, & more difficult/challenging opponent to fight against than even Kaido or BM I honestly believe. It only makes sense for it to be like that by the time we get to the ending final war/battle. The narrative simply dictates it to be so. Akainu will be a monster like non other, & be more deadly than anyone else.
Spoilers for manga reader. …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………. Akoji beat garp , akoji lost to Akainu. Big mom died by magma awakened akainu is scary af
I will go as far and i will say it It's either the the animators are big fans of wb and ace or they hate akainu alot making him looks helpless against wb From the beginning of akainu struggles a bit in stopping wb in there first clash to the end of him being easily overwhelmed by wb But ado clearly does respect akainu I mean that man was literally taking half of wb face and melting and burning him bro turned wb into a 2 camera phone by creating holes in his chest Another thing about oda respecting akainu is him giving him high states like the highest tier offensive df and finishing one piece in a year and giving him a state of being the strongest marin in history ( yeah ik that this is a big argument about the translation of sandman and there is many takes to it but i personally think he is the strongest) Akainu broke luffy's will what so called unbreakable will and makes him go serious after just hearing his name and his wound start hurting this makes me that he is his final opponent to face
Once again another person has misunderstood the akainu protag statement. It doesnt mean that he's the strongest character, it instead suggests that because a protagonist gets many insane buffs throughout the series (such as luffy with his weak gum gum fruit becoming comparable to a literal dragon) if these buffs were applied to someone as innately strong as akainu with a busted fruit from the get go, then he would outgrow everyone else within a year.
Are you not the one misunderstanding the statement? Where is it ever stated that this is the case? You just made your own interpretation and want to parade it as fact when it was left ambiguous
@@wanted2657 because it's referencing having strong villains to be obstacles for Luffy. If you had someone so strong from the get go of course they would find the one piece in no time. If current Luffy reset, still with all his current crew and power he would be top 1 in no time.
@@ZZ-ex8pyman said Buggy please be serious. I know there’s levels with the Emperors that’s why I’ll specify by saying upper end or lower end if I’m not trying to go into too much detail.
Literally all the impressive moments for the admirals was after WB got stabbed straight through the chest no? If I am right about that (im too lazy to reread) then they have literally 0 canon moments where they got the best of or clashed equally with old whitebeard when he is uninjured. Akainu was clashing equally with the injured old WB. Honestly this says enough about Akainu and the admirals imo
Squado did stab him but Whitebeard said it didn’t hurt him (ch572). It wasn’t a serious injury that would nerf his power so the feats from the Admirals at that point are still valid.
7:40 great video, and i hate to nitpick, but we're battleboarding so that's the name of the game. whitebeard doesn't take akainu by surprise here. it's not fair to say that's by surprise, the big mfr just smacked him over there, ofc he's gonna followup. akainu's major weakness is speed. almost every time he gets a major attack in, someone is off-guard. whitebeard's heart attack is being caught off guard, or luffy on the ground those are people i would consider "caught unawares" as it were. i'm not saying akainu isn't him. i'm just saying in this one instance and during most of their fight, akainu is the only one pulling cheap shots, not wb. if i knock you down and wail on you, that's not an ambush but an attack strategy. if you get knocked down from something unrelated to our fight and i wail on you, then yeah you could consider that involving the element of surprise. either way it's a negative in the reaction speed department for hotdog
I see where you’re coming from however if you look at the previous page, Akainu was having a face off with Marco (look at the bottom right panel as well you can see they’re still facing off) and that’s when Whitebeard intervened so it’d still be Akainu getting caught off guard. The moments in which Akainu is intercepted is when he’s attacking Luffy which I wouldn’t assume he’s using his full speed to charge at him when he can easily react to Marco’s attack. I don’t think he has a speed problem at all.
The quote in the beginning is a mistranslation the real quote is "If the protagonist was as strong as Akainu he will finish writing one piece in year" Which is more insane
You’re referring to the vivre card translated by Artur and that’s just his input it’s not stated in the raw scan. I wasn’t even sourcing that vivre card statement in the vid but it’s been stated many times throughout the years that WB can destroy the world.
i personally believe Akainu will be as strong if not stronger than Garp. Him being weak makes no sense as one of the biggest villans/threats to not only the strawhats, but to the pirates in general. Man has the most offensive devil fruit and probs went through immense training after his fight with Kuzan.
Sakazuki is a BOSS!!!. While Marineford is ok for powerscaling u have to remember the admirals were there to protect the island so they was handicapped in what they could really do. We haven't even seen what Akainu is capable of yet. Give Akainu a wasteland against Kaido or Prime beard or Shanks my money is on Akainu.
5:28 contradicted by later statements in the story 6:16 contradicted by the fact that whitebeard two hit kos him after ace is killed when whitebeard is significantly weaker 7:28 no it did not, akainu got two hit ko'd both here and the manga, akainu being weaker then whitebeard is portrayed in both contextes 7:33 unprovable 8:18 weaker versions of both jimbe and ace 9:05 match a holding back mihawk 9:32 a fight being stopped early does not imply relativity it implies intervention 9:43 contradicted by the fact that Shank's crew is called the strongest core crew, meaning whitebeards crew being called the mightiest includes numbers not pure individual strength, further enforced by the databooks which state that marco can compete with admirals, while ben beckmans databook statements say kizaru is afraid of him 10:17 oda uses this scene in the databooks to say that shank's haki is powerful enough to stop akainus attacks, so shanks would still be able to block any attack akainu has anyways 10:30 it does, shanks scales to stronger characters 11:22 unprovable since whitebeard is just clearly stronger 11:45 whitebeard was on the winning end, he was fighting all three of them 12:05 whitebeard only came into that island because he had an unstable boat, hes not risking staying trapped on an island just for a better boat 12:50 you still have yet to prove that, and even then you also stated whitebeard was holding back 12:55 yes you can, kaido shanks saturn garp and whitebeard all do 13:03 incorrect, garp had defeated aokiji with blue hole due to hibari being unthawed by the time aokiji stood backup, and it was stated that unthawing people proven by aokiji take a while to be unthawed, which means oda implies garp one shot aokiji 15:49 just because somethign could happen doesn't mean it will, there is a much bigger narrative importance placed on sabo defeating akainu then luffy doing it 17:14 okay, you are taking this way out of proportion, rayleighs clash with kizaru did not put him on the backfoot, its implied that kizaru is not strong enough to get past rayleigh, not the other way around. And Rayleigh stated the only reason why Blackbeard listenened to him was due to the circumstances, not because hes relative to blackbeard 17:44 akainu is not supposed to be stronger or pirate king level, why should he have to be that strong? In conclusion, Akainu can be stronger then Kaido and Big Mom, but theres still a narrative to show that shanks blackbeard and mihawk are clearly above him, and it will most likely stay that way
Im quite sure ppl downgrade everything cause he killed ace and don’t kill any top tier pirates so far. But fighting aokiji for fleet admiral should people kinda get thinking if garp and sengoku are this strong especially back then why would the current admirals and fleet admiral be so weak. Neutral view garp fought roger shiki etc back then countless times. The strongest pirate of that era so if we just be logic if akainu can’t fight a yonko how would the marine defend against them. After time skip (as fleet admiral) he is at least top 3 and thats just a guess he will kill/defeat/capture a important person in the near future and people will remember he exist and he is strong
As much as I hate Akainu, I feel like his loss there was more of a narrative thing to give Whitebeard his final spotlight so his death would feel more impactful, Akainu is still gonna be an EOS villain meaning hes gonna be pretty gawt dayum strong
This cope is insane, what does that even mean “Fight doesn’t count cuz it was a narrative fight”? That’s every fight you bozo 🤣 All these delusional Sakazukitards thinking he’s on the lvl of oldbeard or Kaido or shanks is hilarious
But Luffy even now is not stronger than Kaido or Kizaru. He may be that at the end of Elbaph, but not now. Kaido suspended a gigantic island the entire time he fought 9 scabbards, 5 supernova, takes Zoro's full power, then fights Adv. Conq. Luffy, then fight Yamato, then Yamato, Luffy, and Momo, then refreshed after eating Fully powered Luffy, and still wins plus takes out CP0 top guy, then fights and almost defeats Gear 5 Luffy without an awakening BTW. Then Kizaru fights with limitations, different goal than to fight Luffy, has emotional conflict ( as we know limits potency of Haki), never takes the many chances to finish Luffy instead going for VegaPunk, and without awakening, yet it effectively is a draw.
He is nerfed against luffy , since Kaido breath didn’t effect luffy at all bc if luffy haki and it’s well known that Kaido breath is hotter than magma if it melts a mountain in one breath lmao
u know i was kinda thinking about something more scary for the magma fruit awakening how about akainu gets blue magma? that is mush more hotter then the normal base magma? might not happen but i kinda think it can happen if there was a way to make it work and that would make him more dangerous then before
Fire and molten minerals work differently, I'm afraid. You can't heat up rocks the same way fire burns blue. However.......you certainly can make it white-hot.
Whitebeard was stabbed near his heart before he even fought Akainu, so Akainu has no scaling to even an Old sick Whitebeard since he was injured beforehand and he still kicked Akainu’s ass Akainu is fodder
Blackbeard after obtaining gura gura no mi challenged Garp and Sengoku and all the other marines in marineford. But he knows what Akainu is capable of and at that time he was fighting with wb pirates so teach challenged garp and sengoku. That means bb can clap both but not akainu
@@LauraSanchez-dc8pe It was more of a respect and honor thing. Like how mihawk called Zoro "strong one" after seeing how strong his will is. That don't mean mihawk actually thought east blue Zoro was that strong. Y'all confuse Mihawks honor with him being scared or duckin 💀
So many times I've seen people say that current Garp is beating Akainu. Idk what they're thinking. At Marineford, they said Sengoku saved Akainu by stopping Garp, but it's the other way around XD Akainu would fold Garp Before you come at me, I'm not saying Garp is weak so don't come at me with that bullsht. I'm just saying ain't no way current Garp is defeating Akainu. He's a future villain ffs
One of the biggest misconceptions in One Piece is that Whitebeard caught Akainu off guard just becase it was not shown in the manga. You should know that manga cannot cover every single scene since it would take too much time, that what the anime is for. Whitebeard did not have the speed at that time to catch anyone off guard. Its like if I were to tell you when Jozu through the giant bolder, in the manga its not shown how he smashed the ground amd created the boulder, in the manga he just grabs it like it was a present from Aokiji. So judging by your logic the Anime lied about jozu cracking thr ice with his fist, the ice boulder was already there when Jozu grabbed it and threw it
Just to point out Magma is magma, no matter if it was aimed at a fodder or not The heat remains the same Again... Rayleigh admitted that he couldnt defeat blackbeard as he us too old
huh .....WB cheap shoted him from behind with the strongest DC attack in the verse and Akainu melted half his brains still......and just got a lip bleed from it.
"WB stomped him" tf you talkin about fraud? Akainu literally bullied that old clown, read the manga took half of his face, burnt all of his organs and after that he continued to rape the rest of his crew 💀😭
I definitely think akainu is at least top 5 but below shanks and mihawk, while his ap may be busted (since he probably has Acoc) I don’t think that’s enough to take down shanks or mihawk since those two probably have haki mastery on a whole new level and with Kaido mentioning how haki is the one thing that surpasses all, I do think that akainu is probably a top 5 staple not any higher
It’s pretty much safe to put akainu over those two cause he’s an actual villain so he will hold more weight than Blackbeard and zoro’s future opponents cause he’s narratively linked to luffy and dragon who will be more superior than shanks or Mihawk. It’s really hard for me to imagine shanks or Mihawk being able to overcome akainu who can tank island level quakes and also dish it out. Shanks and Mihawk need more durability showcases before I think they’re gonna be superior. if akainu is given the same haki feats and what not than he will clearly have the advantage cause of his magma awakening in his back pocket and if he infused the two together than shit ion know if shanks(who’s lost an arm to a seaking or got scarred by Blackbeard) would tank that shit 😂
@@Spartt204 here’s the thing with the speed feat shanks has I don’t think he can hit mihawk or shanks and also being a villain doesn’t mean ur over certain characters, many times it has been said that haki transcends all by Kaido, who knows this since he fought ppl like roger and white beard and their prime. Furthermore with shanks being implied to be the one of the characters closest to rogers level in the manga chapter which mihawk will scale to or even upscale depending on who u think is stronger. So yh in conclusion shanks or mihawk stomp akainu high extreme diff In conclusion it’s pretty easy to mihawk and shanks over the most of the verse since they have by far the best portrayal in the
@@zagessj zage I want to start doing anime(one piece )youtubing like you I would like you to guid me like me using data books,magazines and so more how do I contact you you use insta
Akainu is one of my favorite characters but lets not give him credit for free he didn’t fight the entire wb pirates jozu and ace were out of the picture and other than marco and crocodile there is really no one who poses a threat to akainu especially since akainu didn’t take dmg from marco and vista’s combined attack.
I don t like him but i respect strenght and he for sure has it, however not the strongest in the verse as some would say, i don t see him beating Mihawk, Shanks, Luffy cuz he beat Kaido, Imu(just in case she got some strenght but i doubt)
@@shwix6534 I'm saying Luffy isn't beating Akainu is his current state. He will eventually become stronger but Luffy needs to get another power up to win.
Aokiji only loses in physical combat, this is the same as when Aokiji clashed fists with Garp, That's a picture of the Aokiji vs Akainu fight, where Akainu is stronger physically, maybe also has Haki
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The fact Akainu is so hated people began to downplay him shows how well Oda wrote him as a villain. This is the only man to break the main character's will and permanently change his appearance. He may not be the most significant/final villain but he is undeniably the villain to leave the biggest impact on Luffy and Oda won't disappoint in resolving that.
Kizaru and Kuma also broke him at sabaody
@@LegendSergioKizaru personally didn't do anything to Luffy, he was busy with the dark king.
kuma to, brought Luffy to depression, but not to the breaking point.
after Marinford, Luffy was crushed so much that he practically gave up the dream of his whole life. if it wasn't for Jimbei, Luffy would most likely have followed the path of moria or crocodile. And this is what no mugiwara enemy could do to Luffy, either before akainu or after.
@@LegendSergio not on that same level tho i mean luffy was happy smilin the next day. akainu had him shook
He's more of an antagonist that a villain imo.
I only hate him because of his annoying ass fans
Don’t know why ppl expect a future villain to be weak 🤷🏿♂️
Because people are dumb
ikr
Who thinks Akainu is weak?
Nah who ever thinks akainu is weak is just stupid
why?
because he's a sabo victim not a luffy victim 😂
keep coping akainutard
i think from a narrative perspective, people need to understand that if akainu gets mid diffed or low diffed by yonko, then literally what is the point of having a fleet admiral or an admiral? if the difference between the top tiers of the navy and the yonko are that vast then why hasn't the navy been taken out? people let their own hatred for akainu cloud their judgement. akainu was giving everyone smoke during marineford. sure, whitebeard was old and sick, but at the end of the day, a sick whitebeard is still a yonko. and not only that, akainu fought pretty much all of the commanders and crocodile, and he came out perfectly okay. nothing of what whitebeard or his commanders did could put akainu down and out.
Well I do think Fleet Admiral and Yonko are reletive in power but the fact is Marines top tiers fight together while Yonko fights against Marines as well as the other Yonko.
If all 4 Yonko fights togather (which they'll never) then that's the end of Marines.
I already expected or though about WG to have another fraction of power if Marines ever got taken out in the off case Yonko team up.
I believed Gorosei have to be fighters as well. But now after listening about God knights I think they have enough defenses for themselves.
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true, Even Roger said send sengoku or garp if u want to capture me. A fleet admiral is relative in power to a pirate king. An admiral is relative in power to an yonko
Wb low diffed akainu 😊
I don't think that's the end of Marines. They got world gov and gorosei backing them up too. Even yonkou and revolutionary army combined will have a hard time. The Marines and world gov ARE THE WHOLE WORLD basically. Few yonkou with a few islands isnt gonna beat the whole world.
I think each admiral is a relative match to each yonkou, or at least the original 3. The warlords(and extra admirals) were meant to help counter the commanders and other lower but still annoying pirates.
I'm really curious about Akainu's hat. I have a theory that his hat was given to him by whoever inspired him to become a marine, just like Shanks gave the strawhat to Luffy. Something may have happen to his hometown, most likely by pirates, and there were some marines there trying to protect the hometown, however they weren't strong enough and the pirates ended up destroying his hometown, plundered everything, and left. Whoever gave him the hat could've been marine relative, or someone he admired, and in his dying breath, he gave Akainu that hat. Which is probably why he never takes it off. It probably holds really great significance to him, just like the strawhat holds great significance to Luffy
akainu so downplayed man, the only man to take down 2 top tiers and make another monster run from him, people are starting to get ridiculous saying people like ben beckmann are stronger than him, this guy is an endgame threat and not enough people respect the goat. W VID 🙏🙏
Sakazuki with Conquerors Haki would be near unstoppable
He definitely has it
He has a good ambithion so yes.@@Naldinho456
His will is for sure strong enough, and always has been stronger than everyone around him. If he doesn’t have it I’d be surprised lol.
Back in the day I believed theories that, for example, Garp could easily kill Akainu.
But now that I think back to it, Whitebeard was matched with both Akainu and Kizaru- Kizaru was nearly completely unharmed and managed to land some strong blows on WB, while Akainu did so much damage it pretty much ensured WB's death before being knocked to the ground- but neither knocked out, nor taken out of equation for long, just wounded. Neither of these confrontations suggested an insane difference in strenght, in fact they both looked like Yonko and Admirals are practically matched.
So even back in Marineford, admirals were nearly if not equally on par with a Yonko. I refuse to believe the strongest of them three isn't above yonko level.
Think u brought up a very underrated feat when Blackbeard was scared of engaging Kuzan even though he had members of his crew with him vs just one guy. Also makes it clear that Blackbeard running away from Akainu is very consistent in a scaling sense.
That is true however I would say that it is important that he met Kuzan later on in the timeskip as Kuzan had his battle injuries so it is possible Blackbeard got stronger as was not as scared of the admirals anymore
@@FlawlessWallace3350 Of course. All it shows is that BB holds the power of at least the og admirals in high regard especially considering that we know he was hunting DFs at the time and he never even tried to steal Kuzans power even though it is one of the strongest on earth.
Na teach wanted aokiji to join him so he didn't engaged in a fight and managed to bring aokiji to his crew if he was afraid he would have ran away
@@matthiasrauert8397because he wanted the whole package I mean the former admiral + his df. That means he has admirals skills 6 path skills(eg. Finger pisto) Advance form of haki ultimate combat skills + awakened mastery of logia fruit
@@subrattasingpho5616 For me this scene was more about the narrative. In my view it was different from every other time we see someone join a crew.
To me at least it was more Kuzan wanting to work with BB for his own goals than work under him, his interactions with Garp and the Marines also support that.
I don't even wanna go into if he is stronger or as strong as BB like I said its more about the narrative that makes me think that Kuzan doesn't rly see himself as a follower of BB but rather going along with what he does as long as it suits him, rdy to turn on him at any moment.
Just my oppinion though.
Strongest Marine In History.
No thats Prime Garp!
Yeah only the fake scan users make the attempt to assert that by using statements that don't even exist. Akainu is underrated in General fandom but meat rided worse than Sanji by his individual fandom.
No its confirmed by oda @@skaraturbo
@@DonutdaddyLMF Source!
@@skaraturboare you mad, luffy’s is the younger so realistically they should be powerful than previous generation
EOS Akainu is going to be the strongest marine and one of the strongest character to ever exist in one piece world 🌋.
No you are a stupid brainless
Koby >>>
@@isaacmybro9570Pink haired fraud in the mud daddy akainu the donut maker 🙈🤓🥵
What is EOS mean
@@somebody2283 "End of Series"
Great breakdown of Akainu's feats. A lot of people usually go under the assumption that the scaling in OP goes Commanders < Admirals < Yonko; being based off the fact that Marineford featured 3 admirals vs. one Yonko. The fact is that each ORIGINAL admiral would give each ORIGINAL Yonko a high-extreme diff fight that could go either way. Kidd and Law took down Big Mom, however you could make an argument that Kidd and Law would lose to Kuzan, who is a much more seasoned fighter than Big Mom. (Yes BM was apart of the ROCKS group, but for decades she's been depcited as a sitting duck in her territory eating confections all day.) As it stands, the opponents Luffy will have to face in the future will end up being at the level of Big Mom and Kaido, given that the series is in the final saga. Akainu by the time he confronts Luffy (which he will 100%), will be on par with Kaido; no debate.
To go on a tangent, Big mom is probably a shadow of her former self. Remember, Kaido didn't even bat an eyelid at just unchaining her. Which means he was absolutely confident that not only was she weaker than him at that point, she wouldn't have caused too much damage to his base...
@@herplederpledoodledoo she was old and was suffering from level III obesity and diabetes, she was also highly confident as she was in her prime but in reality she was far below from her prime, peole think that oda nerfed bigmom but that actually wasn't the case. also, bigmom punching law at the end was a filler scene...
But at Marineford, Aokiji, Kizaru and Akainu each fought against WB 1v1... and were winning in their individual skirmishes. While WB was _heavily_ nerfed, I don't see how someone - and I'm not claiming you have done this - can read/watch the Marineford arc and conclude that Yonko > Admirals, when they're relative in strength.
*Admirals vs WB at Marineford:*
1) Aokiji froze WB for a few moments, prompting Jozu to catch Aokiji with a sneak attack.
2) Kizaru wasn't touched be WB and got a few free hits in before Marco jumped in.
3) Akainu beat the absolute _brakes_ off WB (especially smashing of part of WB's face in the manga) to the point that WB's only clean hit - while extremely strong - was only landed while *Akainu had his back turned.* And even after eating that huge hit, Akainu took on almost all of WB's Commanders + Ivankov solo (he even mocked Vista and Marco - who are strong in their own right - of not having haki stronf enough to hurt him).
Akainu is stated to be the world strongest marine in data books if I can recall.This makes him stronger than prime garp. Its just that the community hates him so much due to his masterful donut baking that they heavily downplay his feats.
Those are fake databook scans.
Even if it was real it isn't strongest marine in history, basically saying stronger than old garp but not prime garp
@@zagessjno it isn't why lie
@@pscslsprime garp is old garp lol being old in one piece don't make someone physically weaker the only argument you can say is his twitch speed which he stated got slower, he never said anything about his strength
why are they fake? @@zagessj
People seem to always downplaying The Admirals.
They always make petty excuse to justify that Yonko are more stronger that Admirals, and one of them is that; If The Admirals Are Stronger That Yonko! Why They Don't Attack The Yonko!? The simplest answer is Politics. As long as the Yonkors do not interfere in government affairs, the Gorosei and Admirals will have no reason to persecute them. It is obvious that The Admirals are on the same level as the Yonkor or are more powerful than them. Of course, not all Admirals are at the same levels. Green Bull is new and prefers the easier path and decides to turn around when Shank shows up. But Kizaru, Aokiji and Akainu are obviously the strongest because Akainu is their leader, and none of them show fear when facing The Yonkos and their Crews.
And after Timeskip it's obvious that both Aokiji and Akainu became stronger, I mean, Aokiji easily defeated the Blackbeard Pirates and strike fear on Blackbeard even though Blackbeard has two Devil Fruits, and Aokiji easily defeated Big Mom Crew. So it's obvious that both Aokiji and Akainu have gotte stronger as Kizaru is probably getting stronger as well and judging by Egghead Isla Arc, Gear 5 Luffy took him by surprise as Kizaru was more focused on Vegank Punk than in fighting Luffy.
I think Akainu being above Sengoku and Garp makes even more sense when you factor the fact that every single time the OG 3 Admirals are talked about they're called the marines strongest fighters/force which would make them above Garp and Sengoku, also Teach was not afraid of going toe to toe with Sengoku and Garp yet as soon as he heard that Akainu pulled up he said "f that we getting out of here" and if that wasn't enough the man is legit stated to and i quote (that's legit in front of my eyes) "stand at the top of *all* generations of marines" . No wonder they call him the red dog because he got that dawg in him
Another thing to be said is that oden got caught off guard and got one shit, akainu got up and started soloing the commanders. Imagine if oden got back up and solo'd jack, queen and king
Been saying this for years. The mere fact that he exists as a future problem for Luffy and made the fleet admiral automatically puts him on Yonko level or means he will be brought to Yonko level.
Or higher than Yonko
@@somebody2283 Egg. Zak. Lee.
Akainu strongest Marine Ever
akainu is my current top 1
PUSH THE AGENDA BROTHER🙏🔥
Papazuki the king
Daddy akainu 🥵
I think Akainus big final saga fight will be against Dragon. The leader of the Marines vs the leader of the Revolutionaries. Oda has really positioned himself well, because for many characters like Mihawk, Dragon, Akainu and Blackbeard he can kinda make them as strong as he needs them to be. For instance he can give them Advanced Conquerors Haki, because he never denied they didn't have it. But, yes Akainu has the devil fruit with the most AP, the dog-like mentality, the endurance to fight for 10 days straight, he has already shown some form of advanced Armament and Observation. He will most definitely get ACoc confirmed now that it is an established abilitiy. He has also shown great durability and Oda can just make him as durable as the story requires. I have him at number 4-6 right now. Settled on number 5 for now in the current verse.
The Revs have made it clear that their target aren’t the world government but the ones in charge so idk how and why Dragon would feel to need to face Akainu imo.
@@zagessj I felt some history between Akainu and Dragon in Marineford. Akainu was obsessed with Luffy and was constantly refeering to him as Dragons son and nothing else. They are also around the same age range. So if it gets revealed that Dragon started of in the Marines and then quit due to reasons, than it gives the match up even more of a chance. Also The Marines, especially the Admirals are still the WGs main fighting force. Also I don't think Luffy vs Akainu will be a Kaido style long fight. Luffy has Blackbeard and Imu to fight. I think Shanks will fight Garling, due to him being family, Dragon vs Akainu. But of course this is a lot of headcannon. I guess we will see.
whats ACoc ??
@@himanshujod7645 advanced conquers haki
@@himanshujod7645 Advanced Conquerors Haki. Or Conquerors infusion.
Akainu Pre timeskip was already Yonko level. He simply wasn’t able to go all out and only lost that exchange against WB because of Oda giving the fans satisfaction for Ace death. That’s why he let WB sneak attack him instead of fighting him straight on because when wb did that Akainu handled him easily. Other than that sneak attack Akainu literally solod an entire Yonko crew.
Pre timeskip Akainu is one of the most underrated characters of all time, and post timeskip there is no doubt in my mind that he is among the strongest ever surpassing Prime Garp since he has to be a stronger enemy for Luffy than Garp was for Roger. Otherwise the story doesn’t make sense.
also the amine did him kinda dirty
Surpasing prime Garp? Are you kidding? Garp is capable of using 3 types of haki and the advance technique of it. We saw how Shanks nullified his magma power jud using haki do you think Garp can't do that? Garp has a strong haki that strong enough to obliterate a town.
Prime garp is too early to say rn but he very well maybe
Put akainu in wb position and I guarantee he will get demolished. Starting the fight with a chest stab wound then get a heart attack leaving u open for attacks
@@armonsoregaw2040 cringe casual 🤦🏻♂️ you pretty much ignored everything in the video otherwise you wouldn’t be typing such a du** comment. I have no time for casuals like you go play somewhere else
Akainu is pirate king level
I personally think E.O.S Akainu is gonna be stronger than prime Garp and thus Prime Roger as well
makes perfect sense. New gen > old and Akainu is gonna be a matchup for eos Luffy
Very possible all it takes is a statement from Sengoku or Garp or him having the upper hand against Luffy
Hell no
Everyone is going to be stronger than the previous gen bro. And Garp has no devil fruits or anything, just his will. That makes him the GOAT if you compare both new and old eos. Since the new generation relies a lot on fruits, powers, etc. (Blackbeard had to have 3 fruits just to make it), It reminds me of our gen with the old one now that I am thinking of it. Old times were raw. Now our gen need extra sauce. Also, I believe the modern mirroring of "Garp's character" is going to be Coby. (Storywise and not power)
@@DUCKYDUCK862I wouldn't say everbody, I think only the strongest of the new generation will surpass characters like Xebec, Whitebeard, Roger, Oden, Rayleigh, Sengoku, Shiki and Garp all in their primes, I don't think that privilege goes to everybody, in fact I think a small few of the new generation are gonna surpass these guys
You are by far the best One Piece power scaler on TH-cam. Keep it up!
ngl this might be your best video, nice job bro
Bruh I have not seen any yonko do something like Akainu at the end of marineford, its even more impressive than Kaido in the roof before the final fight
He treated Ace like childs play
Got surprise attacked by enraged Whitebeard and gave the man the death wound in the process
Came back and was unimpressed with Marco + Vista
Off screened Ivankov
One shotted Jinbe
And then he fought the entirety of the Whitebeard commander plus Crocodile who was on fire in that arc
And he not only wasnt pushed back, HE WAS WINNING
Curiel was defeated and Akainu didnt even look tires he was MORE MOTIVATED
After Shanks showed up he just stood there while the other admirals kept attacking Luffy cause he took the responsability of taking on Shanks if the fight started
Thats insane
Blackbeard rolled up and Sengoku stopped the war, but we dont see Akainu stepping back or anything, if the fight really went on he was planning on taking Shanks, at least thats what his position tells us since theres no speaking
More impressive than kaido hahahahhahsh this dude get two shotts by a old sick diyng nerfed wb in marineford is not even close to kaido stop with this nosense
@@foaka4404wdym? Not only did akianu at multiple points over power old whitebeard and give him life threatening moves
But he was holding back aswell
Reminder when all three admirals used advanced ryuo to stop the tital wave coming towards them akianu literally told kizaru and kuzan to hold back so they wouldn't destroy teh entire island
Plus the fact that whitebeard who caught akianu off guard and hit him with his strongest attack
Only sent him down a canyon and he got back up like nothing happened
Only bleeding a bit
Addition: Now that it looks more and more like Shanks still has either World Noble status, or the ability to black mail the Elder Stars like Doflamingo could, it makes sense that Akainu would call off the war when Shanks showed up. He's absolutely obsessed with law(as in order, not Trafalgar) as much as killing pirates, and the orders of the celestials and Elder Stars are enough to keep him on a leash despite his temper. He probably has some idea of Shanks' past, but not the full story, which means his loyalty to the government won't let him pick a fight with Shanks even if he wanted to...
@@herplederpledoodledoo Yeah we cant be sure about it
But he says "Akagami" at the moment as if Shanks showing up would get in his way
Wich is either because fighting him wouldnt be easy at all and Luffy would still escape
Or because of the celestial status
I think people overestimate how much Akainu likes the Tenryubito tho
He called the Gorosei "dogs of the celestial dragons" and didnt give a fuck
So I dont think he respects them too much anyway, he clearly doesnt like either of those
But Im sure he believes the system is necessary to bring justice to the world
@@foaka4404 Kaido was on the ground bleeding out from an attack of the scabbards
Oh but youre gonna tell me he got back up
Well, same with akainu brother, youre just biased
Maybe youre an anime watcher and you got things wrong
If Akainu was really knocked out or defeated he would have fallen into the sea
He didnt, he kept chasing Luffy wich is what he was doing before Whitebeard interrupted
For it to be a "two shot" like people say, he would have to be defeated, and he wasnt
Unless you also count Kaido falling to the ground as a defeat, wich you will agree its not.
Papizuki donuts your favorite character
Agree though what Tsuru said is to be taken more metaphorically i think. I think she meant this event will have such an impact on the world that it would be impossible to hide from the consequences.
they literally showed tremors and stuff happening all around the world. based off ace’s Novel whitebeard is quite literally capable of destroying islands just from getting angry. If he were to use some type of quake awakening than shit does get hectic. He’s literally a walking national disaster waiting to happen. You gotta understand that the one piece world is made up of a large body of water aswell, if he can manipulate his quakes and create tsunamis on end than shit would damn near be close enough ig
@@Spartt204 I know that and have no problem with it.
Only saying that the quote from Tsuru means something else imo.
I don’t know why people think the marines would be weaker in an era where there are more pirates than ever. It makes no sense for the marine top tiers of today to be far weaker than the old gen marines like Sengoku and Garp.
At the end of the day Oda stated Akainu was the strongest marine in history a couple of years ago. People like to say this was not true but at the end of the day that is just fandom refusal to believe author notes.
Exactly. 🎉
EOS Coby > Akainu
@@ParodyAccount_I feel like he future fleet admiral or Fujitora.
@@Chillersnowman Exactly. & not even lava-boy can keep up with what characters are doing in the manga right now
@@ParodyAccount_ idk what you meant????
Akainu AGENDAA TIME!!!!!
1 - navy
2 - red hair pirates
3 - blackbeard pirates including aokiji
4 - revolutionary army
5 - straw hat pirates
6 - cross guild
Cross guild > straw hats
@@Naldinho456 In Crossguild, Mihawk stands as the lone titan, towering even above Luffy in strength. But if somehow Luffy manages to hold his ground against Mihawk, then having Zoro, Sanji, and Jinbe on board is like having a trio of wrecking balls ready to sweep away the rest of the Crossguild pirates. It's like playing chess with a grandmaster and having three knights in your arsenal!
@@kingxanime8603 bold of you to assume croc and Daz bones haven't gotten stronger through 2 yrs bold of you to assume that buggy doesn't have 100 million bounty pirates at his disposal mihawk whoops luffy croc Daz bones can handle sanji and zoro and the rest of the 100 million bounty pirates aren't going to overwhelm the rest of the straw hats only ussop saves them
That end of/later series buff about to go crazy for Sakazuki. I mean look at Crocodile.
Did he say whitebeard splitting marine ford in half was the most destructive attack in the series? In the same arc Mihawk split and ice berg that was more than twice the size of marine ford
W video.
I think Akainu is in top 3 current strongest characters.
The only 2 character who can be above him are Imu and Dragon(maybe)
P. S. I'm sure that Papazuki will show awakening and very powerful ACoC.
That hxh soundtrack is lit 🌋. Mystical Island
It seem that Akainu is build to be the End Boss.
Sakazuki will almost undoubtedly be a more dangerous, more deadly, & more difficult/challenging opponent to fight against than even Kaido or BM I honestly believe. It only makes sense for it to be like that by the time we get to the ending final war/battle. The narrative simply dictates it to be so. Akainu will be a monster like non other, & be more deadly than anyone else.
From what I’ve gathered in terms of scaling
Future Akainu>=Prime Garp/sengoku/roger/WB>old Garp/sengoku/WB=akainu/kuzan(M.F.W.)>G5luffy>=Kaido
This is a fye break down for the goat
9:05 yoo icl Zage that one was nasty lmao leave my guy Mihawk out of this
😂😂😂
Great video ❤
Thanks
@@zagessj You are welcome. Continue the great work brother 😊
Akainu is 3-0 with yonko right now
Shanks is the exception right?
@@SparkyWeeBronop
@@hat6119 then who?? Def not black beard!
@@SparkyWeeBro maybe the dead guys roger,white beard because oda stated that if akainu was a pirate one piece would finish in 1 year
Spoilers for manga reader. …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………. Akoji beat garp , akoji lost to Akainu. Big mom died by magma awakened akainu is scary af
I will go as far and i will say it
It's either the the animators are big fans of wb and ace or they hate akainu alot making him looks helpless against wb
From the beginning of akainu struggles a bit in stopping wb in there first clash to the end of him being easily overwhelmed by wb
But ado clearly does respect akainu
I mean that man was literally taking half of wb face and melting and burning him bro turned wb into a 2 camera phone by creating holes in his chest
Another thing about oda respecting akainu is him giving him high states like the highest tier offensive df and finishing one piece in a year and giving him a state of being the strongest marin in history ( yeah ik that this is a big argument about the translation of sandman and there is many takes to it but i personally think he is the strongest)
Akainu broke luffy's will what so called unbreakable will and makes him go serious after just hearing his name and his wound start hurting this makes me that he is his final opponent to face
If luffy messes up once he can say goodbye to one of his limbs or his skull just like whitebeard
Can’t happen to Joyboy with toon-force
Dude people just forgot akinu hit whitebeard mid heart attack which nerfed his strength severely
People dog on Akainu because they love Kaido more
Once again another person has misunderstood the akainu protag statement.
It doesnt mean that he's the strongest character, it instead suggests that because a protagonist gets many insane buffs throughout the series (such as luffy with his weak gum gum fruit becoming comparable to a literal dragon) if these buffs were applied to someone as innately strong as akainu with a busted fruit from the get go, then he would outgrow everyone else within a year.
Are you not the one misunderstanding the statement? Where is it ever stated that this is the case? You just made your own interpretation and want to parade it as fact when it was left ambiguous
@@wanted2657 because it's referencing having strong villains to be obstacles for Luffy. If you had someone so strong from the get go of course they would find the one piece in no time.
If current Luffy reset, still with all his current crew and power he would be top 1 in no time.
@@wanted2657 the akainu top 1 agenda is hilarious. People hype him up when his rival got dogwalked by a fossil.
Kaido being “emperor lvl” is hilarious 🤣
What is he
@@zagessj I don’t use casual terms like “yonko lvl” or “admiral lvl”
Sakazuki is clearly not on the level of old whitebeard
@@ZZ-ex8py I don’t go by those levels either but it’s useful to give a general ball park
@@zagessj “yonko lvl” is not a general ballpark
“Yonko lvl” goes from WB all the way to buggy
It’s just as student as “yc1 lvl” or “warlord lvl”
@@ZZ-ex8pyman said Buggy please be serious. I know there’s levels with the Emperors that’s why I’ll specify by saying upper end or lower end if I’m not trying to go into too much detail.
Do y’all think oda will ever show us kuzan vs sakazuki?
Nah but maybe Toei makes it an OVA when the anime is over
Literally all the impressive moments for the admirals was after WB got stabbed straight through the chest no? If I am right about that (im too lazy to reread) then they have literally 0 canon moments where they got the best of or clashed equally with old whitebeard when he is uninjured. Akainu was clashing equally with the injured old WB. Honestly this says enough about Akainu and the admirals imo
Squado did stab him but Whitebeard said it didn’t hurt him (ch572). It wasn’t a serious injury that would nerf his power so the feats from the Admirals at that point are still valid.
WB was not moving from his ship before that
It's amazing how you blatantly fail to read and just use and accept your headcanon as fact.....
7:40 great video, and i hate to nitpick, but we're battleboarding so that's the name of the game. whitebeard doesn't take akainu by surprise here. it's not fair to say that's by surprise, the big mfr just smacked him over there, ofc he's gonna followup. akainu's major weakness is speed. almost every time he gets a major attack in, someone is off-guard. whitebeard's heart attack is being caught off guard, or luffy on the ground those are people i would consider "caught unawares" as it were.
i'm not saying akainu isn't him. i'm just saying in this one instance and during most of their fight, akainu is the only one pulling cheap shots, not wb. if i knock you down and wail on you, that's not an ambush but an attack strategy. if you get knocked down from something unrelated to our fight and i wail on you, then yeah you could consider that involving the element of surprise. either way it's a negative in the reaction speed department for hotdog
I see where you’re coming from however if you look at the previous page, Akainu was having a face off with Marco (look at the bottom right panel as well you can see they’re still facing off) and that’s when Whitebeard intervened so it’d still be Akainu getting caught off guard. The moments in which Akainu is intercepted is when he’s attacking Luffy which I wouldn’t assume he’s using his full speed to charge at him when he can easily react to Marco’s attack. I don’t think he has a speed problem at all.
The quote in the beginning is a mistranslation the real quote is "If the protagonist was as strong as Akainu he will finish writing one piece in year"
Which is more insane
The databook quite literally says whitebeard's statement is not to be taken literally
You’re referring to the vivre card translated by Artur and that’s just his input it’s not stated in the raw scan. I wasn’t even sourcing that vivre card statement in the vid but it’s been stated many times throughout the years that WB can destroy the world.
@@zagessj can be destroyed as in lay waste to something, and not destroy like frieza level of obliterating planets to dust
if old sick wb=akainu, I cant imagine how strong prime wb was
Theyre not equal. Akainu destory old wb ez.
You are forgot that white beard was old and sick while fighting
stop ovverating fodder beard, akainu was holding back to and did more damage to fodderbeard.
Talk to them 🗣️🗣️🗣️🌋❤️
If luffy in few hours can master haki
Imagine 10 days fight
Lol Joyboy would stomp day 1
People just hate Akaniu for killing ace
What do you expect from a bunch of naive kids like that?
i personally believe Akainu will be as strong if not stronger than Garp. Him being weak makes no sense as one of the biggest villans/threats to not only the strawhats, but to the pirates in general. Man has the most offensive devil fruit and probs went through immense training after his fight with Kuzan.
Sakazuki is TOP 1 (under imu lol) quit sleeping!
Sakazuki is a BOSS!!!. While Marineford is ok for powerscaling u have to remember the admirals were there to protect the island so they was handicapped in what they could really do. We haven't even seen what Akainu is capable of yet. Give Akainu a wasteland against Kaido or Prime beard or Shanks my money is on Akainu.
5:28 contradicted by later statements in the story
6:16 contradicted by the fact that whitebeard two hit kos him after ace is killed when whitebeard is significantly weaker
7:28 no it did not, akainu got two hit ko'd both here and the manga, akainu being weaker then whitebeard is portrayed in both contextes
7:33 unprovable
8:18 weaker versions of both jimbe and ace
9:05 match a holding back mihawk
9:32 a fight being stopped early does not imply relativity it implies intervention
9:43 contradicted by the fact that Shank's crew is called the strongest core crew, meaning whitebeards crew being called the mightiest includes numbers not pure individual strength, further enforced by the databooks which state that marco can compete with admirals, while ben beckmans databook statements say kizaru is afraid of him
10:17 oda uses this scene in the databooks to say that shank's haki is powerful enough to stop akainus attacks, so shanks would still be able to block any attack akainu has anyways
10:30 it does, shanks scales to stronger characters
11:22 unprovable since whitebeard is just clearly stronger
11:45 whitebeard was on the winning end, he was fighting all three of them
12:05 whitebeard only came into that island because he had an unstable boat, hes not risking staying trapped on an island just for a better boat
12:50 you still have yet to prove that, and even then you also stated whitebeard was holding back
12:55 yes you can, kaido shanks saturn garp and whitebeard all do
13:03 incorrect, garp had defeated aokiji with blue hole due to hibari being unthawed by the time aokiji stood backup, and it was stated that unthawing people proven by aokiji take a while to be unthawed, which means oda implies garp one shot aokiji
15:49 just because somethign could happen doesn't mean it will, there is a much bigger narrative importance placed on sabo defeating akainu then luffy doing it
17:14 okay, you are taking this way out of proportion, rayleighs clash with kizaru did not put him on the backfoot, its implied that kizaru is not strong enough to get past rayleigh, not the other way around. And Rayleigh stated the only reason why Blackbeard listenened to him was due to the circumstances, not because hes relative to blackbeard
17:44 akainu is not supposed to be stronger or pirate king level, why should he have to be that strong?
In conclusion, Akainu can be stronger then Kaido and Big Mom, but theres still a narrative to show that shanks blackbeard and mihawk are clearly above him, and it will most likely stay that way
Akainu power is literaly limitless
Because he would had beaten WB back then, nowadays he is top 3 strongest, mark my words u little One Piss fanboys
One piss 💀
Im quite sure ppl downgrade everything cause he killed ace and don’t kill any top tier pirates so far.
But fighting aokiji for fleet admiral should people kinda get thinking if garp and sengoku are this strong especially back then why would the current admirals and fleet admiral be so weak.
Neutral view garp fought roger shiki etc back then countless times. The strongest pirate of that era so if we just be logic if akainu can’t fight a yonko how would the marine defend against them. After time skip (as fleet admiral) he is at least top 3 and thats just a guess he will kill/defeat/capture a important person in the near future and people will remember he exist and he is strong
That's my Chicken
What if the volcanos werent made by alainu
6:07 he still had a disease. Prime WB is beheading that akainu
We got Akainu one “flame” user hype now so… Ace hype when? 😂
How strong is shiki exactly
Mista attack didn’t actually clash with mihak cuz if you think about it mihawk was not going all out
Wakainu 🔥
W
Lakainu
@@masaki9433 avg shankstard
Goatkainu
He lost to half dead sickbeard
🤡🤡🤡🤡 read the manga you dum* fck
Keep crying you emotional Sakazuki tard 🤣🤣
As much as I hate Akainu, I feel like his loss there was more of a narrative thing to give Whitebeard his final spotlight so his death would feel more impactful, Akainu is still gonna be an EOS villain meaning hes gonna be pretty gawt dayum strong
This cope is insane, what does that even mean
“Fight doesn’t count cuz it was a narrative fight”? That’s every fight you bozo 🤣
All these delusional Sakazukitards thinking he’s on the lvl of oldbeard or Kaido or shanks is hilarious
Yep he did and Old Whitebeard was holding back as well. Gura-Gura No Mi's awakening would've killed him.
But Luffy even now is not stronger than Kaido or Kizaru. He may be that at the end of Elbaph, but not now. Kaido suspended a gigantic island the entire time he fought 9 scabbards, 5 supernova, takes Zoro's full power, then fights Adv. Conq. Luffy, then fight Yamato, then Yamato, Luffy, and Momo, then refreshed after eating Fully powered Luffy, and still wins plus takes out CP0 top guy, then fights and almost defeats Gear 5 Luffy without an awakening BTW. Then Kizaru fights with limitations, different goal than to fight Luffy, has emotional conflict ( as we know limits potency of Haki), never takes the many chances to finish Luffy instead going for VegaPunk, and without awakening, yet it effectively is a draw.
Akainu is too stronger he would give xebec a run for his money
Xebec slams him
@@isaacmybro9570 No
@@Packirup1234delusional
@@isaacmybro9570 that's cool
He is nerfed against luffy , since Kaido breath didn’t effect luffy at all bc if luffy haki and it’s well known that Kaido breath is hotter than magma if it melts a mountain in one breath lmao
5:28 contradicted by later statements in the story
white beards attack isn't the strongest we've seen in the series, bajarang gun is... they had to move an entire island..... facts
u know i was kinda thinking about something more scary for the magma fruit awakening
how about akainu gets blue magma? that is mush more hotter then the normal base magma? might not happen but i kinda think it can happen if there was a way to make it work and that would make him more dangerous then before
Fire and molten minerals work differently, I'm afraid. You can't heat up rocks the same way fire burns blue. However.......you certainly can make it white-hot.
@@ottoia9126 that could be 1000x more scary to think about since white hot would be like the hottest
Kaido beat Luffy when he was a top tier 2 times
Whitebeard was stabbed near his heart before he even fought Akainu, so Akainu has no scaling to even an Old sick Whitebeard since he was injured beforehand and he still kicked Akainu’s ass
Akainu is fodder
Akainu didn't get any major injuries 😂
Blackbeard after obtaining gura gura no mi challenged Garp and Sengoku and all the other marines in marineford. But he knows what Akainu is capable of and at that time he was fighting with wb pirates so teach challenged garp and sengoku. That means bb can clap both but not akainu
Akainu is a BOSS!!
Theres no shot Vista is as strong as Mihawk I agree with everything else tho
You misunderstood, I was saying that Vista could match attacks from Mihawk that could slice the ice mountain not that he’s on Mihawk’s level.
"We should settle this later Vista."
Imagine if Mihawk lost
@@LauraSanchez-dc8pe "It's just a title Vista"
@@LauraSanchez-dc8pe It was more of a respect and honor thing. Like how mihawk called Zoro "strong one" after seeing how strong his will is. That don't mean mihawk actually thought east blue Zoro was that strong. Y'all confuse Mihawks honor with him being scared or duckin 💀
@@bryanwoo8415 Vista is underestimated he is probably rank 0 in strongest swordsman, Zolo gas to beat him instead.
So many times I've seen people say that current Garp is beating Akainu. Idk what they're thinking. At Marineford, they said Sengoku saved Akainu by stopping Garp, but it's the other way around XD Akainu would fold Garp
Before you come at me, I'm not saying Garp is weak so don't come at me with that bullsht. I'm just saying ain't no way current Garp is defeating Akainu. He's a future villain ffs
@abbasalqattan2759 who tf talking about Blackbeard?
@abbasalqattan2759 what the hell does that have to do with my original comment?
One of the biggest misconceptions in One Piece is that Whitebeard caught Akainu off guard just becase it was not shown in the manga. You should know that manga cannot cover every single scene since it would take too much time, that what the anime is for. Whitebeard did not have the speed at that time to catch anyone off guard. Its like if I were to tell you when Jozu through the giant bolder, in the manga its not shown how he smashed the ground amd created the boulder, in the manga he just grabs it like it was a present from Aokiji. So judging by your logic the Anime lied about jozu cracking thr ice with his fist, the ice boulder was already there when Jozu grabbed it and threw it
Just to point out
Magma is magma, no matter if it was aimed at a fodder or not
The heat remains the same
Again... Rayleigh admitted that he couldnt defeat blackbeard as he us too old
Well
He gets downplayed because WB stomped him kinda
But literally tho
He is gonna be one hell of an opponent for luffy
How is he supposed to be weak
huh .....WB cheap shoted him from behind with the strongest DC attack in the verse and Akainu melted half his brains still......and just got a lip bleed from it.
"WB stomped him" tf you talkin about fraud? Akainu literally bullied that old clown, read the manga took half of his face, burnt all of his organs and after that he continued to rape the rest of his crew 💀😭
Bruh haters so much downplaying him i know it hurts he is donut maker but you got to admit it
I definitely think akainu is at least top 5 but below shanks and mihawk, while his ap may be busted (since he probably has Acoc) I don’t think that’s enough to take down shanks or mihawk since those two probably have haki mastery on a whole new level and with Kaido mentioning how haki is the one thing that surpasses all, I do think that akainu is probably a top 5 staple not any higher
It’s pretty much safe to put akainu over those two cause he’s an actual villain so he will hold more weight than Blackbeard and zoro’s future opponents cause he’s narratively linked to luffy and dragon who will be more superior than shanks or Mihawk. It’s really hard for me to imagine shanks or Mihawk being able to overcome akainu who can tank island level quakes and also dish it out. Shanks and Mihawk need more durability showcases before I think they’re gonna be superior.
if akainu is given the same haki feats and what not than he will clearly have the advantage cause of his magma awakening in his back pocket and if he infused the two together than shit ion know if shanks(who’s lost an arm to a seaking or got scarred by Blackbeard) would tank that shit 😂
@@Spartt204 here’s the thing with the speed feat shanks has I don’t think he can hit mihawk or shanks and also being a villain doesn’t mean ur over certain characters, many times it has been said that haki transcends all by Kaido, who knows this since he fought ppl like roger and white beard and their prime.
Furthermore with shanks being implied to be the one of the characters closest to rogers level in the manga chapter which mihawk will scale to or even upscale depending on who u think is stronger. So yh in conclusion shanks or mihawk stomp akainu high extreme diff
In conclusion it’s pretty easy to mihawk and shanks over the most of the verse since they have by far the best portrayal in the
Who is the caracter in the dark silver below crocus that in connected to whitbeard in one piese magazine 8 is it xebex
Oden
@@zagessjohh he was there rival too
@@zagessj zage I want to start doing anime(one piece )youtubing like you I would like you to guid me like me using data books,magazines and so more how do I contact you you use insta
Akainu is one of my favorite characters but lets not give him credit for free he didn’t fight the entire wb pirates jozu and ace were out of the picture and other than marco and crocodile there is really no one who poses a threat to akainu especially since akainu didn’t take dmg from marco and vista’s combined attack.
I bet it has a fixed temperature
Lmao I thought it was about the deck in the card game
I don t like him but i respect strenght and he for sure has it, however not the strongest in the verse as some would say, i don t see him beating Mihawk, Shanks, Luffy cuz he beat Kaido, Imu(just in case she got some strenght but i doubt)
why don't u like him
@@TheProphetLotCause he's an ass who killed Ace and wanted to kill everyone and people want to deny he's strong. I love him
Nah, until Luffy fully utilizes gear 5 Akainu is stronger. If he gets confirmed advanced conquerors then he will be stronger than Kaido.
@LauraSanchez-dc8pe so basically you say he s not stronger because he s not confirmed conq haki but put him above luffy🤣
@@shwix6534 I'm saying Luffy isn't beating Akainu is his current state. He will eventually become stronger but Luffy needs to get another power up to win.
Akainu = aokiji = kizaru = 10 days fighting = BB YC 2 below shiliew 🤷♂️
Aokiji only loses in physical combat, this is the same as when Aokiji clashed fists with Garp, That's a picture of the Aokiji vs Akainu fight, where Akainu is stronger physically, maybe also has Haki