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Bugatti and Koenigsegg are two hypercar manufacturers with a storied history. The top speed clash of the Veryon and the CCXR is only matched by the Agera RS and the Chiron Super Sport. From the Nurburgring, to Spa Francorchamps, to the Nardo ring, to the Autobahn, the Volkswagen owned Bugattis and Sweedish Koenigseggs are still competing.
Versus put two automotive giants toe to toe and Joey Rassool tallies up points to see who is the victor. Anything from heritage, performance, and even availability are taken into consideration.
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2:26
Metric system: kilometres per hour
American system: football field per second
Underrated comment😂😂😂
WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE FOOTBALL FIELD!!! Like, COME ON, do you have literally nothing else to measure with, Americans?
They'll literally do anything but metric
This comment right here😂😂😂😂😂
@@Juan308 as an american I can 100% confirm this
Never did I hear him mention the Regera even once. This was biased.
Nothing about the Bugatti Divo too
@@Thunderworks which basically is a Chiron with new bodypanels slapped on it while the Regera is a completely new car
Or the latest jesko either
Carson D 😂😂😂 man this funny to see you go off with this multi paragraph essay. I don’t think it matters who’s better, Bugatti has been around longer, Koenigsegg is newer so it’s gonna start off with a disadvantage so calm down out here
Carson D I’ll have to agree with you, he underrated koenigsegg by miles! Probs to you for having the facts straight!
The Bugatti didn't break it's own record. At the time of the Super Sports' run, the record was held by the SSC Ultimate Areo at 256 mph.
Also Koenigsegg has been the holder of several acceleration records that it's been beating with nearly every car they bring out.
i know a 2litre abf golf that will destroy that
@@saringaclose production car not tuned
True. But tbh I hate the ssc. Don't know why. Probably bias against it as an American company even though I'm American myself. But I also Haye the venom. I have to blame koenigsegg. That car when I first saw it was so different looking compared to other hyper cars. Where as the SSC looks way to much like other car company's. And the vemon. . . I'm good. Not a fan of a porsche meets a lotus meets a Pagani. I rather just look at a Pagani or lotus by themselves. I know dumb opion. And dumb reason. But I have no idea why I dislike those cars. Then the whole SSC issues in 2020 kinda sealed it.
One thing you missed for Koenigsegg on the future round... Christian has been working on Freevalve technology which eliminates the need for camshafts to operate the valves. This tech is used in the Gemeras 3 cylinder engine. Because of freevalve, Koenigsegg has the fastest reving production engine ever made. I believe he said it can rev up to over 13,000rpms, but I would have to find the video again. Not saying the engine can reach 13,000rpms but how fast the engine can get to the rev limiter in seconds. Just insane.
yeah it redlines in .3 seconds which in insane but thats not even the most impressive part of it, its a 3 CYLINDER, 2L that makes 600hp, 300hp per litre is absolutely unheard of, bugattis 8 litre 16 cylinder with 4 turbos and 8 radiators makes about 190hp/litre. and a lamborghini aventador svj, makes just under 120 hp/litre,
Wow ! What an incredible knowledge
I forget which 1 but one of the 2 koenigseggs is both manual and auto in the same car ..with a clutch
The regera literally uses the most mind boggling tech, has insane speed numbers and is super innovative and this guy just ignores it completely... 3 PoInTs FoR bEiNg RaRe
amarjit singh nobody cares, we disown idiots.
...and the TFG aswell
I was gonna say the dude forgot the regera exists
Ali Shariyat It really bothered me how much he underestimated koeinigsegg
The tech obviously ain't working cuz pro drivers are wrecking them.... I'm not in a rush to buy a car that even better drivers than me can't control.
“Koenigsegg doesn’t give us enough to look forward to” yeah like they aren’t going for a top speed record Nurburgring record and a 4 seater hyper car with 1700 horsepower when the Bugatti has 1 car that is pretty much already out
Ikr? They basically have just used the same car since the 90's while Koenigsegg has been innovating since day one. Even McLaren is better than Bugatti.
leave it hes a bugatti fan, koenigssegg has done as much as bugatti in 1/5 of the time
@@fortisprocer966 why do you make mclaren look so bad dude
Obviusly Joey is bugatti fan, because no way bugatti is better than koenigsegg.
The Nurburgring record with a rwd car no way in hell
"Now we are going to look for exclusivity, you don't want the same car as your neighbor haha" and just after that "Well Koenigsegg doesn't get that many points because it is TOO exclusive".
This guy is hilarious 🤣 This should've aired on 1 April...
but remember the point after that, non car people don't really know about Koenigsegg, so if you're spending money to show off, people should know how much you spent just by hearing the name,,
@@tcdesports5673If that is what you care about, save yourself a couple of millions and just get a non-limited Lambo.
@@tcdesports5673exclusive doesnt mean popular.
Koenigsegg One : 1 went 7 seconds faster than a P1 at Spa on their warmup lap. Then authorities hurriedly changed some noise limits and cancelled their lap. Conspiracy.
And the Regera somehow went faster than a McLaren Senna at Ring Knotsrtup.
I'm convinced koenigsegg has a time machine...their engineering is on a level never seen before
And their newest cars show that.
agree 👌
nah just swedish
Alla svenskar kan svara till min kommentar så andra tror att jag sa någonting roligt om Koenigsegg 😂😂
Well you can do engineering like that if you make cars 7 figures while also not caring for reliability
Host: If only Koenigsegg had on more model.
Koenigsegg Regera: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?
KCB regera aint the fastest tho but true😂
KCB fr, and it’s transmission it’s crazy
@@lorenzogutierrez7488 it has only one gear bruhh
@@vonifyqf that is whyy
The Regera is probably the most tech advanced hypercar you can buy today.
I love how organized DM are with you’re hosts per topics.
The pedigree category seems weird considering modern Bugatti is not the same company. Bugatti went bankrupt and collapsed in the 60s and the name was bought decades later. Just like in professional sports, the titles and records don’t follow the name, they follow the franchise. Modern day Bugatti shouldn’t receive any credit for a “long heritage” because they only go back to the 1980’s
Me: 27 seconds into the video
*Reads comments*
Me: Welp I'm outta here
Yep Im not even going to finish the video because this guy is just spitting out BS with every word he utters.
I made it to 41 sec
Damn, should’ve read the comments first. 21.45 mins of my life in the bins with such BS
Wow I got to :53
I got to 3:16 & the facts are WAY off. I can't keep watching.
"exclusivity is the key here"
"Koenigsegg is the most exclusive"
"I'm gonna give Bugatti 4 points but only 3 to Koenigsegg.... cause its more exclusive ??
honestly this series just sucks... scoring never makes sense
Exclusivity as in everyone wants what you got, but you have it. Nobody will know a Koenigsegg like they would know a Bugatti
Air-headed Aviator yeah for sure “nobody will know a Kooenigsegg like they know a Bugatti” besides the million people that actually care about this conversation.
Jacob Smith take a poll? How many non car guys you think know of the super neesh Swedish brand?
Air-headed Aviator don’t see why it matters. The people who care about exclusivity and can actually afford these type of cars absolutely know about the brand. Hence why they will buy them (if they have a chance to) over Bugatti 100x over, because of their exclusivity / investment factor.
@@air-headedaviator1805 now ask yourself why a non car guys opinion matter in this conversation
He forgot about the Bugatti Bolide coming out this year. That is arguably something good to look forward to.
Great video, a little disappointed you didn't mention that James May held the speed record for about 5 minutes but you can't have everything. Keep up the great work.
I feel like Bugatti recieved a bit too many points just for being an old company.
Yea
Bugatti is a heritage brand owned by VW. Koenigsegg is the modern embodiment of what made Bugatti great back before they ran out of money and started changing hands. I don’t like the way they scored that round either.
That's heritage though. Bugatti has such a rich and interesting history, Koenigsegg hardly has any history. It makes sense under the category. Either way both companies are absolutely amazing
@@cameronlogan01 not really tho, the original company Bugatti went bankrupt in 1952 and wasn't a car company again until the late 80s
Completely agree
This series should be called Unpopular Carpinions with Joey
or Devil's advocate
Or Dead ass wrong.
Nise mustang
Or could it be possible that you didn't hear what you wanted to hear?
@@gallieon8718 bruh, more than 80% of comments disagree with the results of this... Bugatti is just a poster car that everyone knows "bEcAuSe It'S tHe FaStEsT cAr In ThE wOrLd"
Hey guys its been 2years so can we get another ep on this in current circumstances
You'll shouldn't forget these results are based on his personal comparison and opinion.
Bruh just tell us at the end of the vid that “this video was sponsored by Bugatti”
Bro Bugatti is better all the way
@Tanmay Jamwal every way, the evidence? reality itself says so. Koenigsegg is alright but Bugatti is definitely a better brand for every reason except looks though i still like how the veyron looks. Once the 300 goes into production it will hold the new production record and Bugatti will be on top once again
“Cars are rewarded for being exclusive.” Also says, “The Koenigsegg is too exclusive.” This series is subpar
literally had me scratching my head wtf
Only the richest 0.01% can buy a Bugatti, but only the 0.009% can by a Koenigsegg, so this round goes to Bugatti
They're also comparing cars without actually having them. This is the same as a bunch of car bro autists arguing about Ferrari vs Lamborghini when they drive old, beat up, unmodified civics with fake VTECH stickers
@@davidmhh9977 I guess this is the logic...
He kinda make himself dumb in that statement bruh. He made 2 opinions that didn't make any sense. Hahaha! That's why this video got almost 40% dislikes. Lol
I want to see an updated video on this topic soon, Im shocked this is 3 years old already
I’m pretty sure you could give 5 for the last point with Koenigsegg CC850’s manual/automatic gearbox
It’s funny how he forgot that the regera broke the 0-400-0 record and still forgot the model completely. This scoring was bs.
bruh they literally have a family track and straight speed car all the best or first in the category how this man gonna say the future could be better i agree bs scoring
@Amarjit Singh You have the same name as my uncle.
“maybe if they had tipped the scales with one more model”
*forgets about the ground-breaking Regera*
He never mentioned the one-of-one La Voiture Noire soooo 🤷🏾♂️
@@JordanLangat to be fair it didn't achieve anything new. Regera runs on one gear and sent a huge middle finger to Bugatti
The one that could hit 200mph quicker than Bugatti, on first F*****g Gear alone!!!
Oh ya that doesn’t matter at all
@@jacksonhawker2564 Koenigsegg is far more innovative than Bugatti. Honestly this shouldn't even be a discussion. Koenigsegg > Bugatti by a mile.
I live in sweden and have actually been at the koenigseeg head quarter unfortunaly it was a weekend and it wasnt open. But i saw a jesco absolut and a jesco in person!
23 Hours ago the 🪙s🥚broke the record again. 0-250 mph in 28.81 sec and 250-0 in 8.25 sec.
"The Koenigsegg is better, but i gotta give it to Bugatti." tf is this man even saying?
Hector Magana I agree so much.
Lmao what’s the time?
Lol 2020 Bugatti is not even part of top 5 fastest car 😂😂😂and koenigsegg the 3rd
He gotta be dumb
He is a Bugatti fanboy
Bugatti: hosts favorite
Koenigsegg: fan favorite
not Yer bisinus no
Makes sense the comments are just people rioting that konigsegg is better and I personally agree.
Koenigsegg: people who actually know and appreciate cars favorite
I felt Koenigsegg got shafted hard this video.
@@oso_Ren The host was like "yea yea koenigsegg is awesome but, I prefer bugatti so yeaaaa....." at least have some respect for Christian man wtf
I don't have to choose in between
I csn adapt them both
Why run vs when they can run together to the finish line
So why was there no mention of Koenigsegg's amazing freelance technology? I would venture to guess that that alone would push its future points to the max! Especially because of what the technology has to offer now amd for the foreseeable future. Heck even Wesley Kagan put it on a miata!
A football-field a second
- ah yes, the famous american unit of speed
It depends on the football field
@@anthonyguitron6741 - yes! o.0
who is counting???
I also saw that on news channel, it was so funny I was like use metres why football field 😂😂😂
It’s easier to imagine one big thing than it is 100 little things. But it is always a football field 😂
@@anthonyguitron6741 regardless, if so…then say 100 yards.
haha bugatti ko brrrrt
yes it is stupid
Mikaela Mejia it’s so broken.
True
Like literally its obvious to anyone that koenigsegg wont hold a candle on pedigree. Its young lol. Still koenigsegg is my take
It's too exclusive to win an exclusivity category 🤬
I think some additional categories could have been considered, like tech/innovation and luxury/comfort. I'd easily see Koenigsegg taking the top spot in the former, with developments in transmission technology for example. I'd even say that their development is significant outside the hypercar realm, since it's not unthinkable to see some of their tech in much more accessible vehicles in the future. Bugatti in turn is basically all about "more is better", which I do not see as very innovative. In turn, at least according to reviewers like Doug DeMuro or Shmee, Bugatti would pull ahead in luxury.
Bugatti is definitely more luxurious. But I don't get why people think that Bugatti just pushes for 'MORE'. Do you really think that giving a car more horsepower is enough to make top speed runs that are comparable to Koenigsegg's speeds? There are plenty of hyper cars that have more than a thousand horsepower but they still can't beat a Bugatti despite being lighter while having a similar horsepower. I really think people underestimate the Bugatti's engineering aspect. It's not easy to make world records with a luxurious tank.
"maybe if koenigsegg had tipped the scales with one more model"
Ohhhh wait there is one more, it's called the regera
Ohh what it even has speed records and amazing tech innovations, "let's just ignore that one"
Yup, sounds about right
@Lasse Reinlaufen yeah the hybrid regera with that insane drivetrain, I want one!!!
Yeah and they didn't mention the agera one megawatt version which has 1400 horsepower as well
Regera:am i a joke to you?
The Agera R was also unofficially faster than the og veyron for a while.
and how about the 0-400-0 kph run? ohhh noo let's not mention that either.
This host.
Finally a Video that a Billionaire like myself can use to decide which Hypercar to get
Lol
Walter Johnson ikr, im tired of those videos that have peasants as their target audience
🤣🤣
Yes finally they release a relatable video
🤣😂
at first the thing i dont like about the bugatti is their curvy body and i feel like its just a modernized semi circle with wheels but now the modern ones, i fell in love with bugatti again specially the current chiron and one thing i noticed on Koenigsegg is that its too rectaglish and really have that square vibe into it
This guy is growing on me they have some good hosts for the show
What the scoring should have actually been:
Top speed
Bugatti and Koenigsegg 5.- Both are top companies in this aspect both historically and presently.
Attainability
Bugatti 4 Koenigsegg 5- Bugattis are too common, which can caused value to drop. Koenigseggs are sought after like crazy and have gained millions in value as a result.
Track performance
Bugatti 3 Koenigsegg 4- Bugatti haven't really made all out track cars like Koenigsegg and their cars are too heavy to be racing beasts. Koenigsegg have made incredible track beasts such as the One:1 and CCGT (Jesko will be an absolute beast but has not raced yet so can't really be taken into account) but due to multiple unfortunate circumstances and a long history with track and race organisers, they have not been able to show what these cars are capable of hence the 4.
Pedigree
Bugatti 4/5 Koenigsegg 3/4- Bugatti is an old company and well known. If you ask a non-car guy what the fastest car is and they'll tell you a Bugatti Veyron. Koenigsegg despite being a lot newer than Bugatti, does have an interesting history, such as the reason why all their cars have a ghost on them, and the story behind their badge. They are also well respected by everyone who knows about them.
The future
Bugatti 2/3 Koenigsegg 5- Koenigsegg have a bright future ahead of them, producing wacky cars and showing that they are well capable of producing hybrids such as the Regera and the Gemera, they have also created multiple new technologies including Aircore wheels, Freevalve, redesigning the gearbox TWICE, and many more (a more complete list is on their website). Bugatti on the other hand, are stuck selling the same car over and over with a new body or slightly reduced weight. Plus their W16 will not be relevant in a couple of years and they have so far not shown any ability to adapt to renewable energy sources/ hybrid power which will undoubtedly dictate the car market in the next decades.
Total score:
Bugatti 18-20
Koenigsegg 22-23.
Thank you, hope they admit the host to an asylum soon
I agree with your assessment
I 100% agree
Agreed. Bugatti hasn't really changed much at all. New styling is basically it. Koenigsegg is constantly changing everything about their cars, from styling, transmissions, engines, wheels, aerodynamics, you name it.
This I agree 💯 to! You're assessment is amazing and precise to be honest. Done in a fair way! 😁 😁
Host - "Exclusivity wins this round hands down"
Also Host - "Koenigsegg loses this round because they're too exclusive"
Me - "........................."
кαηтα Porsche went 320Mph in the 70s with a race car
@@okietc1889 do you know what production cars are?
My reaction was the same 😂
I've seen a buggatti, but I haven't seen a Koenigsegg. AR12 litterally cried when he saw one.
@кαηтα I was thinking exactly the same
anyone else look at the square background and even though all the squares were straight every time you looked at them they would bend???
I saw that ghost logo when I downloaded the car's mod in need for speed most wanted 05 , I was showcasing the car then I saw that ghost logo "that's new"for me
This is the first one of these that legitimately pissed me off, Koenigsegg got robbed.
like AG robbed where DWade gives this a 9?
You must’ve not watched the FWD vs RWD 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@TherealTheecorrupted I haven't actually 🤣 guessing I shouldn't now based off your comment.
@@TherealTheecorrupted YES! That was so stupid
Davis Wiker they never mentioned that Koenigsegg is one of the only hypercar companies striving for environmentally clean cars! To prove they got robbed just look at the like/dislike ratio lol it’s not good for Donut
Koenigsegg: We have camless engines and 7 clutch transmissions
Random guy: I'm not going to give 5 points to Koenigsegg in future category
Yeah, totally makes sense
*camless engines?
Arda Deniz Geçer, I agree with you.
Look the size of the Bugatti engine. Is the size and weight of Gemera. Come on. This was BS
Yeah, no mention of the Regara with the Freevalve technology at all.
@@inamdarkapil tf is camless engines??
@@refaelililov8953 An Engine that has no camshafts. It's an electric valve system which can basically do whatever you want it to.
This was my first Donut.😶...memories.
Why I think koenigsegg looks more like a hypercar than bugatti, cuz when u look at one, bugatti gives u a more luxury feel than a hypercar feel.
"Attainability" is such a weird category when discussing hypercars. They're supposed to be exclusive haha
It's a flawed category. Using the scoring logic, SpaceX wins because the Falcon 9 Heavy can go to space.
Everyone: But it's not a car...
Scoring System: Inconsequential, Space X wins, NASA a close second, Roscosmos solid third.
and nobody doesnt know what koenigsegg is lmfao
"Less drag than an F1 Car"
Bruh literally everything has less drag than an f1 car (no joke look it up)
Lol, yeah they are literally built for downforce aka drag lol.
true
0.7 drag coefficient
my 55hp car would be faster according to this guy coz it has less drag
Well a wrangler has more drag than a cow... does an F1?
You should update this and talk about the Bugatti Mistral and Koenigsegg Jesko Absolut
He should make another one of these vids because of the bugatti bolide and the la vortre noire
Your scoring is hilarious 😂 “in this category you want to be exclusive” I’m only giving koenigsegg a 3 because they’re too rare. Oh have a day off. Just say at the start you prefer Bugatti so they’re going to win 🤦♂️
Koenigsegg are better and should win this, just look at the comments I’m not the only one saying that.
Koenigsegg’s engineering is off the charts considering how young they are as a company as well, it’s mind blowing.
ikr. also you can't say bugatti has more heritage bc the new bugatti (founded in 1998) has nothing to do with the old bugattis
Yeah, Joey obviusly a bugatti fanboy. There is no way bugatti is better than koenigsegg.
TobyLeRone This is so true
“Oh this category is about rarity, but points off to Koenigsegg for being too rare.”
Hello? You docked points from Koenigsegg for being better in the category than Bugatti? Are you loopy?
Ik he's such a bugatti fanboy
“One more model...I could have given it to them”
*Sad Regera Noises*
jacob hughes Regera set a record too right?
@@oso_Ren I think it set both 0-400-0 kph and 0-400 kph
tbh im so pissed off
this man obviously doesnt know what he's talking about
@@oso_Ren one to one set 0-400-0 record not regera :)
One of my neighbours has a very old Bugatti and I’ve got to drive it. Just down the driveway but still awesome.
4:11 safety reasons 😂😂😂
Koenigsegg: We've got a top speed model, a track model and one that can fit 4 swedes with 1700 hp and is also a hybrid with a respectable electric range.
Joey: But are you ready for the future?
Yup. In 26 years they became a world class competitor and innovator.
Bugatti pretty much just build the same car over and over.
Zero2Hero Motorcycles and a good amount of cup holders
Slide Ways you are absolutely right sir 😂
Brett Huffine as a swede I might be a bit subjective but I definitely think that koenigsegg deserves a lot more than given in the video. I absolutely agree with you
Zero2Hero Motorcycles
They totally do. Bugatti is VW making things for posters. Koenigsegg are ground up passionate and very capable innovators with 'future' cars already on sale.
Off the showroom floor, side by side, Koenigsegg wipe the floor with Bugatti
Nah this show is too biased, lacks any landslide wins “ always a close tie” too afraid to actually criticize I hope donut actually pays attention to its fans and not right us off as haters because that’s how people lose interest
Brian Mendoza
When people are only bitching and complaining in no constructive way it’s hard to do anything but write them off as haters. They should be close like within 20% score in my opinion in favor of Koenigsegg. I do get what you mean it’s kind of disappointing to always be a close win. Though I see that on basically all channels on all subjects with controversial opponents.
@@Sheridantank lmao can you stop going into every comment and insult people
there are a lot of comments with good points, but i'll summarise:
-weird scoring system which is not explained to the viewers
-bias towards one side (idk if that's the host's fault or the script is just shit)
-host is a little bit boring
have a good day
"right us off" xD
@@sejol3081
You're asking me "can you not share your opinion about others whi have theirs" and my obvious answer is no. I disagree with all points you made.
@@Sheridantank they are saying to stop insulting people and just share your opinion without being a dong to everyone
I love the part where you say "If the stig cant keep it on the track, then no one can" Haha
I think people forget how dangerously fast these speeds are 😂
Does anyone else also thinks his points are just given deliberately?
Like "nah this one is winning so lets give this one a little bit more"
18:47 when you say Koenigsegg jesko have less drag than an F1 car .Every car have less----> F1=o.7,,, 99% of cars =o.35 drag F1 need downforce to put all they power to the ground .Аsk me where i know = Science Garage [your show]
Yes, definitely. It's to keep us on edge while he lets his favorite win by a point or two in the end.
point r bullshit in this series
Yeah, these types of videos seem pretty biased ngl
I havent heard anything more true in my life
Bugatti had the financial support of the VW group unlike Koenigsegg that was built up on its own and deserves more recognition for the balls to do so
Yes definitely
Built on the back of chickens 😂
Well no shit koenigsegg is a smaller company compare to Bugatti
Christian literally sunk his life into this product. He set up the chess pieces. Picked out everyone he wanted on his team. He works on those cars with his team! He's a well likeable guy. High class and he also understands that what he does will benefit not just the future of Hyper cars but everything all the way down to the simple corolla. You don't hear too many stories like this. He wasn't born into a automotive powerhouse. He did that shit!
Don't mentioned Bugatti have 2x turbo and 2x cilinder than Koenigsegg.... And.. ow Koenigsegg crashes one or three times.. bad reputation?.? Waiting Jesko Absolut kiking some tracks 😁🇱🇹💯👍
This guy is so exited while talking cars, that he don't even blink!😮
If you understood Swedish this would end a whole other way, his love from cars came from a movie named flåklypa Grand prix.
"The less atainable the better"
"Koenigsegg only gets 3 points because by dad doesn't know about them"
k
Well, MY dad knows about them. He’s as car literate as any boomer is technology literate.
Exactly this is dumb af Koenigsegg has been around a lot less then Bugatti and with them already doing as well as they are they should be on top
You Will turn more heads with the Aventador svj that the agera. And you spend $6,500 000 less
Bugatti absolutely won my the attainability one not many people know what a konigsegg even is
My phone’s autocorrect recognizes Bugatti, but not Koenigsegg. Bugatti for the win?
New category: Innovation and engineering
Koeningsegg: Freevalve, carbon wheels that are lighter than the tires, 3-cyl that makes 600hp, LSP and hydro-coupling tansmissions, dihedral-synchro-helix doors.....
Bugatti: hmm idk let's just add more cylinders...
And more turbos, can't forget about the extra turbos.
and more turbos XD
And more wheel drive xD
They did Hydraulic turbine transmission too
Bugatti: Just another VW
I think you should've added a category "Human Perseverance & Determination behind the brand", VW is simply... Souless, while Christian von Koenigsegg is still a real human being(Drive vibes all around), a man of focus, he and Ayrton Senna are the only people outside my family that I truly admire(Carol Shelby too, considering the way he found to deal with his heart disease)
Volkswagen is a brand with a hard-working production team,also this shows just how much you know about Bugatti, because of the world war they ran bankrupt and could only survive by selling airplane engines, (as in the old ones), but got back in action in the late 80s, just because they're famous doesn't mean they're soulless
Bugatti is a world famous brand, with racing heritage. Koenigseggs are ridiculously expensive kit cars that nobody buys and nobody wants.
@@chalkandcheese1868 facts
@@chalkandcheese1868 facts
bro, if this video was made by Nolan or James, it would have banged
“If they had one more model I can give them 5 points” Koenigsegg : you forgot about our Regera, you know, the 1700hp hybrid super car without a transmission.
ZeGenesis yeah the 0-400-0 record
I thought it was 1500
Michael Blewer 1500 is the average output, the electric motors can overlap in the rev range, the maximum can be 1750hp with 2200Nm of torque, the 1500hp and 2000Nm figures are just the average power output.
He forgot some models for Bugatti too, the Chiron Pur Sport, the Divo, La Voiture Noire
@@Thunderworks those are different cuz of the less the 10 that were made
I love how he conveniently forgot about the Regera, like that car is something out of this world.
That car is out of this world, its a brilliant feat of engineering, which is why the host couldn't act like it existed because there's no way Bugatti could even enter the same conversation as it.
and then proceeded to say "If only Koenigsegg had one more model to tip the scale" at the end of the video, I spit out my coffee
Pffffft that’s only in forza
@@gussniperxd1788 oh yeah, forgot about that
The Regera is more powerful than the chiron
Koenigsegg always will be the perfect Hyper-car to me and forever, a sports-car company that came out of nowhere, nor German or Italian, but from Sweden (ik Volvo exists) that could challenge and beat Bugatti (if they wanted to) who had unlimited fund from VW. Love Agera R and CCXR
I’m sure the heads of each company are losing sleep over your evaluation. 🤣
To start things off, yes, I own a Volkswagen. However, I love all car culture.
Bugattis are cool and all, and I respect their contribution to the automotive industry. But, it is hard to deny Christian von Koenigsegg and his team's determination despite not having so called "pedigree". Furthermore, the founder, himself, came from a working class family and started building his first go kart at age 5. The competition between these 2 companies is unfair. You are comparing one company, founded when automobiles were relatively still new by a man who came from a wealthy family and is currently funded by the world's leading automotive corporation, to a company who was practically founded in a shed by a man who had almost nothing and is currently fighting against the rules and regulations set forth by today's society.
Also, you made an error in your video. When the Stig lapped the Top Gear Test Track in 2008, you failed to mention that the Koenisegg had no form of aerodynamics to help slow the car down under heavy braking. Furthermore, this crash happened during a reattempt after the car beat Bugatti's record at the same track driven by the same driver under the same conditions. As a result of this crash, a rear carbon fiber wing was made standard for saftey reasons which actually increased performance slightly.
Just stating facts here man.
Also, I forgot to mention that when Koenisegg did their most recent world record run. It was in Nevada on an uneven public road. The fact that it achieved that on such a surface is astounding.
Yeah, I was disgusted at the fact that he missed a lot of things about Koenigsegg like the fact that not only what you already stated about the Top Gear incident, but the fact that the Stig pushed the car too hard in the bad track conditions. Soo many things I wished were mentioned and judged more fairly upon.
@@jimmybarr9411 This video is so biased
Agreed
@@trujalkadu6160 all of these vs episodes are biased. Did you see the Mustang vs Camaro? It was even more biased than this.
Yeah. This channel is like ed bassmaster, long gone
You need to make a updated version of this.
“Veyron was the first hypercar”
Uhh so we’re just gonna forget about the...
McLaren F1
Saleen S7
Pagani Zonda
Koenigsegg CCR
Ikr I disliked the video immediately after hearing that
Porsche 959 as well. Lamborghini countach twin turbo. Ferrari F40 and F50, it's retarded to think the veyron is the first hypercar......
Koenigsegg deserves way more points, especially with all the new tech Christian invented himself for their future cars.
@@odethious5639
None of the cars you listed are hyper cars. They are clear cut supercars and no more. The Porsche is more arguable but I would disagree still.
Saleem s7 is supercar,
I prefer by far Koenigsegg but the CCR aint really a hypercar
i would love to see Bugatti bolide vs Koenigsegg Jesko absolute drag race
Also Koenigsegg’s free valve tech is probably one of the most revolutionary things to happen to the combustion engine in the last 50 years.
Agera RS also holds 0-400-0 acceleration records over the Bugatti Chiron. That wasn’t taken into account.
I think koenisgsegg holds like the top 3 spots
And the regera also took that
but they never proved it, they made a advertisement video about it but Bugatti actually had judges from the Guinness book of world records there to solidify the runs, Koenigsegg did not
Bugatti Chiron ss is not a official record
@@peter-paulkutschlojenga7336 what? Both runs, TopSpeed aswell as the 0-400-0 from the Regera have been approved.
This series should be titled "The Car I Like Best This Week".
For real
Yup.
yea
For real for real
He doesn't even hide his bias.
what happened to this series bruh it was so good
Its like the battle of a veteran and new gen
I feel like this show is designed to irritate me at this point
Alexis Collins I agree sometimes it’s like he is purposing putting better cars up against bigger name brands and awarding the car he likes because he likes them more or because it’s a bigger company
@@corbinm9874 no man its a fact that bugatti built it's self a long heritage and there is no other hyper car you can use to compare a bugatti with rather than the koenigsegg seriously cars like hennessy venom are not well known and they can't be compared with the bugatti and even now when typing bugatti shows up in my spelling bar but koenigsegg doesn't which shows that bugatti has built it's self quit a good reputation
Thembinator Ndlovunator baloney sandwitch. Koeniggseggs are better. Our generation loves koeniggsegg and we will grow up together.
@@thembinatorndlovunator4918 Uyasihlaza Themba. The Swedish one, to answer your safety question
@@thembinatorndlovunator4918 bruh if you crash at ~300 kmph then you're dead. No matter what car you're in.
"Koenigsegg needs one more model"
Koenigsegg Regera: Am I a joke to you???
@Aleksander Baez-Perez wtf, there are already 7 regeras out wich 5 of them are owned. 😂😂😂
Edit: I just counted 7 but there are more Regeras out there
Ahahahah I know
@Aleksander Baez-Perez WHAT??? 😂😂😂
Please leave comment section jajajajaja
Koenigsegg Agera RS 0-400-0 = 36.44 sec.
Koenigsegg Regera 0-400-0 = 31.49 sec.
Jaja poor Regera 😔
Jesco
Really was aiming for a Bugatti but then I realized that just to change the oil on the car....it's was over 25 thousand dollars... and 16 oil plugs and alot of attention to detail just to change the daum oil lol
18:48 Most road cars produce less drag than F1 cars. However, it's the drag in F1 that makes them fast. It's because none of the drag goes to waste since most of the air is used to push the car down.
you might be looking for the word "downforce"
@@ahmedasher8341 yup
The “future” was sooo biased, Koenigsegg really deserved MORE than 5 points, they definitely lead in technology. The Regera's Direct Drive transmission which was invented by Christian Koenigsegg himself is just an exemple.
Edit: this is the first time I ever disliked a Donut Media's video.
Thank you Jesus, I couldn't have said it any better
Or their project with bio fuel
Or their freevalve technology,
How does one squeeze 600hp out of a 2L 3 cylinder? Apparently with freevalve.
And turbos of course.
Me too Jesus
That's soooo true. And take note he literally forgot the Regera
I feel like attainability shouldn’t really be a category when discussing HyperCars.
Kieran Keddo-Powell ikr
it should be changed with rarity or the average price/unit
Eggactly
Not to mention pedigree. You don't need history to make the better car
@@gavinverhoeven2576 I mean, the video is not about the best car, is Bugatti vs Koenigsegg, that's why pedigree has weight
Series concept is a W but everytime you guys make of these videos the scoring system is just flawed.
What he fails to mention is when the CCR hit 241 it was also doing it on a constant curve.
The scoring was unfair. Koenigsegg totally gets a 5 in the future category. It is extremely unfair to not talk about the extraordinary technology and engineering that Koenigsegg develops. And in the Attainability category koenigsegg should have won because they are more rare and you cant hold the fact that they are newer company against them
I totally agree but I also thing Bugatti could've gotten more points as well. This guy completely dismissed the Chirpn Pur Sport, which is a track focused Bugatti so...
Marcelo Castillo I only think he didn’t mention it because Koenigsegg didn’t have a competitor in their lineup (they might, but to me, the Jesko Absolut hasn’t achieved any records that I know of as of late).
Bro straight facts
I think it's also kind of daft to ignore the fact that Koenigsegg still holds the top speed record just because Bugatti used to hold it. By that logic, Jaguar wins because they held it more than once with the XK120 and the XJ220.
Still tho. It be a tie
RE: Performance
no mention of the 0-400-0 kph. nice.
yeah i like how that wasnt mentioned at all in the video. and i thought the agera rs had the top speed of 280? idk that might be wrong
I'd lump three high profile crashes as "bad performance". They cancel each other out IMO
@@Winglessflight97 How often do you see a Bugatti on a track? Never. Then how is it gonna crash? You gotta push the limits and in process some crashes are inevitable.
@@Winglessflight97 I'd take out the ccx because that car didn't even have traction control and probably that's the only real high end crash that was supposed to be mentioned here. The one:1 crash at the nurburgring was because of a mechanical failure, otherwise the one:1 has set several lap records around various tracks around the world. About the agera crash, the crashed car was a test mule, that's enough said. Test mules crash all the time and this one made the headlines because this is one of the more expensive ones that has crashed.
@@parimalkakde7714 Bugatti's legacy as a "race-winning dynasty" makes them exempt. And Bugatti has absolutely nothing to win anymore by tracking them... They ARE the standard. Koenigsegg on the other hand, has NO pedigree or legacy winning races... They have to win races soon or they will always be regarded as just "something cool young people want to own". In other words, Bugatti is Jordan and Koenigsegg is LeBron. No matter how many records Koenigsegg (LeBron) beats or how many cool things they do, Bugatti (Jordan) is the default, even if Koenigsegg is better on paper. You can't replace the original
For doing just a bit more with exponentially more resources and, instead of just making small tweaks in an existing vehicle but instead redesigning from the ground up every time you get one less point.
I saw an agera RS in person once 😮
Koenigsegg takes the cake in my opinion
Don't worry I can bet that many people believe that Koenigsegg is better....
SD_ Forrest yep
DJRS9045 Koenigsegg*
@@Goofyahh1337 thanks bro..👍👍👍👍
the name is even in the title of the video..
Koenigsegg will always have my heart
No... you better put Hennessey in your heart.
Random Internet Person they have like one car
@@mrcrackerjacks5788 they have the better car. :)
Nahh bro buggati is going to destroy koinnnegeg
@@fifamobileshorts naw. hennessey ftw. lol
for top speed they forgot the koenisegg jesko ABSOLUTE
Bugatti wins because Koenigsegg apparently needs one more model? Tf is this guy on
Regera, Jesko, and Gemera vs. Chiron
"Yeah Konigsegg needs more cars"
Yeah seriously though! Bugatti came out with a new model trim, and Koenigsegg came out with 3 cars in the same amount of time and they should’ve came out with more
this man completely overlooked the fact that Chiron is actually a Modified Veyron.
he also denied that the one:1 was the FIRST Mega car. search it up if u dont believe me
@@rezboadog369 basically for him, 100 Koenigsegg cars are equal to one Bugatti car lol
This is like a donut media video for non-car people
Like the tiktok “community”
Campbell Gildersleeve Donut Media is for people who started liking cars right after Paul Walker died
My cousin started to watch donut is donut good or bad?
EXACTLY
@@unknownrez1998 it's a fine channel and Nolan and James are great hosts this series is just awful
Many People like to hate Bugatti for their overall design and the engine, but I have to say, i love the engine sound.
Not because of the sound characteristic of the engine layout, but how unstressed it sounds, no matter how fast it’s driven.
It’s sounds like it’s just not giving any fucks.
Bugatti has a car called the Bolide that I believe is for the LMP1 category.
“this category is about top speed. Koenigsegg has the production car top speed record, so we’re giving this round to Bugatti” ..........WHAT!?
Hahahaha
There are even unofficial "records" made by Koenigsegg that are higher than the official records aswell. Back when Bugatti Veyron had the record, i think it was 401km/h or something and Koenigsegg's previous record where 388km/h, Christian von Koenigsegg Spoke in a interview that costumers hade gone way beyond 400km/h with their cars... On a regular road....
The Bugatti speed record was done with a modified Bugatti too. It had modified rear body panels. And any way there was a brief period that the Shelby untiamate aero had the record. And so did the Hennessy Venom GT.
Koenigsegg jesko can reach 300 mph buggati can reach 300 mph
If only Koenigsegg had access to Ehra-Lessien.