OMG I've already got I9 wheels & hubs on my bike but I still get giddy watching this! Best upgrade I've done for my bike! I want an I9 Hydra hub for a fidget toy!
Bike Technician from Ft.Worth, TX. Witnessing the process of how the components I work on and install, are created, gives me an incredible understanding and just makes me smile. Thank you!
Thank you for the factory tour! I am more impressed with my Hydra hubs than before. I look forward to building a custom set of Industry Nine wheels for my next bike.
Must say, high POE is a genius idea from production POV! Applying more strickt requirments to pawl shape and placement may bring the individual cost of pawls and a ratchet ring up to ten times compared to low POE systems, but will effect the overall cost under ten percent. But the performance boost justifies even higher price and additional spendings, like colored spokes with non-standard nipples. *THIS* is how you apply _Know_-_How_ to be ahead of competition
Love that they’re made right here in the USA. However, there’s definitely a price that comes with domestic manufacturing and thorough hand assembled perfection. I’d love to throw some Industry Nine furniture on my ride but their Hydra hub and a set of spokes alone would be more than I initially paid for Trek Marlin 6 which I’ve already more than doubled the price of in aftermarket parts. Beautifully machined parts and meticulously run operation though. Kudos to Industry Nine!
Thanks for showing us around the Hub & Wheel shop of Industry Nine! I learned a bunch on how they are made....and the precise engineering that make clatter of the hubs famous!
Boys: Before getting a super high engagement hub - just a PSA here: It will most likely give you more pedal kickback. Since there's less play from moving the pedals to actually engaging the hub. Not saying it's good or bad, but no wheel companies ever mention it. 😘
As someone who works as a machine tool operator/ programmer for CNC mill turns I always find myself trying to reverse engineer the hub and make my own one. Can't beat I9 though, they're the bread and butter of the hub design and manufacturing industry! :D
As a USA dude I support buying local and have owned 2 separate I9 wheelsets but had nothing but problems with both. Horrible bearings and a broken rear axle were the 2 main issues, but there were others. I know that lots of riders are super stoked with their I9s, but 2 sets were more than enough for me.
The bearings are industrial bearings and no cup and cone. I don't have an I9 hub but you could just use Timken or SKF bearings instead of the stock ones. Nobody can make better bearings than the industry leaders from the US, Europe or Japan
It isn't the quality of the bearings - these hubs would destroy any bearings because of terrible design. Single pawl engagement ruins main bearing and freehub body bearings (and also breaks axles)
@@leoelkins3664 I overhauled a Tourney freehub body 2 days ago. It has 2 engagements, but they are not 180° on the other side, so there's also some force on the bearings of the freehub body. However this hub is constructed in a way the cup and cone bearings of the wheel itself are independently from the bearings of the freehub body, and the freehub body dont put any extra stress on the main bearings. The main bearings run in the inner part of the freehub body, while the ratchet mechanism is engaging into the outer part of the freehub body which is made of steel too.
These are great hubs. We have a couple sets. I will say though, I can't tell much of a difference between 690 points of engagement and other low POE hubs. Regardless, they are durable and hold up to Clydesdale racing without issue. Also, i9 hubs have the widest flange spacing of any hubs I have found, which leads to a laterally stiffer wheel.
Thank you so much for the video. I am extremely intrigued on how things are made. I am a designer of my own products. Although they are wood products. I can’t wait until I buy a set of I9’s for my specialized turbo levo. Keep making videos like this.😊
I just turned my pile of cash into an I9 EN300 wheel set. Super easy. But seriously, I got this wheelset 6 months ago and it's been the best upgrade in my Specialized Turbo Levo. I instantly noticed the stiffness and improved bearing and freehub.
I have been rocking my i9s for a few years and can tell you it’s a kick butt product and their warranty has been insanely good. Will never own another wheelset ever.
I've got the old torch hubs on my bike and they're super reliable and perform flawlessly. 3 years of seriously hard riding - bike parks, dusty conditions, crashes, cased jumps, etc... Still spin smooth and engage great. Honestly wouldn't be worth my money to upgrade to hydra
@@robertmcfadyen9156 in this case you used proper axles. My Scott Aspect has Tourney hubs from stock, and they worked surprisingly well until I rode some gnarlier trails the last time. I discovered a broken front axle (it's QR) last week. It's just a 9 mm axle with a 5 mm hole in it and the effective diameter is even less since the 9 mm are the outer diameter of the thread. I could repair it with a new inner axle, but I will switch to XT hubs in medium term which have a much thicker axle inside the hub
Too bad we can't get any quick release axles anymore. Sadly everyone's gone to thru-axle, and 29er. I still ride 26" quick release wheels. Otherwise I'd seriously consider buying some. I love to see that parts are still made here in the USA. Thanks.
I love I9 wheels but I don't like aluminum spokes. I have seen catastrophic failures where spokes pulled out from the rim when a stick went through the wheel. I would much rather replace broken steel spokes. I9 makes a straight pull hub with steel spokes for Ibis, I just wish they offered one for the open market.
I assume the advantage of aluminium spokes for them is they can make them with thicker material without getting too much weight. A normal steel spoke has a smaller thread, this thread may be too small to screw it into an aluminium body. Aluminum is not like steel if you have threads in it, they can get pulled out. A steel spoke made of a thicker material however will weigh more
Only thing special about this hub is how easily the axles break. Engineering an axle that flexes to engage pawls out of a material that has no fatigue limit is no very bright. Stick with DT Swiss if you want something reliable!
They sell hubs for center lock rotors if that's what you are after. I prefer them because it allows the flanges to be a little wider, so the wheel is laterally stiffer.
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GMBN Is crushing it! Love this. We may be biased when it comes to factories and CNC...
OMG I've already got I9 wheels & hubs on my bike but I still get giddy watching this! Best upgrade I've done for my bike! I want an I9 Hydra hub for a fidget toy!
fidgeting that i9 sounding spinner and i’d be daydreaming about riding and cogs non stop
Bike Technician from Ft.Worth, TX. Witnessing the process of how the components I work on and install, are created, gives me an incredible understanding and just makes me smile. Thank you!
Thanks Anna, Rich, and all the folks at Industry 9 for a brilliant video!
Thank you for the factory tour! I am more impressed with my Hydra hubs than before. I look forward to building a custom set of Industry Nine wheels for my next bike.
yup, i'm running the hydra XD geared & single speed, love how they rides!
More of this sort of thing, please!
Must say, high POE is a genius idea from production POV! Applying more strickt requirments to pawl shape and placement may bring the individual cost of pawls and a ratchet ring up to ten times compared to low POE systems, but will effect the overall cost under ten percent. But the performance boost justifies even higher price and additional spendings, like colored spokes with non-standard nipples.
*THIS* is how you apply _Know_-_How_ to be ahead of competition
Would like to see a factory tour of Hope.
I received my first ever set of i9 wheels last week. Custom level 3 Hydra build. Was so worth the wait, I love them!
Love that they’re made right here in the USA. However, there’s definitely a price that comes with domestic manufacturing and thorough hand assembled perfection. I’d love to throw some Industry Nine furniture on my ride but their Hydra hub and a set of spokes alone would be more than I initially paid for Trek Marlin 6 which I’ve already more than doubled the price of in aftermarket parts. Beautifully machined parts and meticulously run operation though. Kudos to Industry Nine!
Great insight, thank you! Now let's have a look at how rims get made!👏
Extruded then seam welded is the long story short.
Thanks for showing us around the Hub & Wheel shop of Industry Nine! I learned a bunch on how they are made....and the precise engineering that make clatter of the hubs famous!
Boys: Before getting a super high engagement hub - just a PSA here:
It will most likely give you more pedal kickback.
Since there's less play from moving the pedals to actually engaging the hub.
Not saying it's good or bad, but no wheel companies ever mention it. 😘
just ride a hardtail ;)
I ride a hardtail so it doesn't worry me
@@Alexanderpeters98 Y'all hardtail bros are excused from above PSA.
@@MTB_CRZY Y'all hardtail bros are excused from above PSA.
Dt swiss 54t is max I run because of this. Anything more than that is diminishing returns.
I absolutely love my custom I9 wheel sets!! Great edit! Thanks for the tour!
As someone who works as a machine tool operator/ programmer for CNC mill turns I always find myself trying to reverse engineer the hub and make my own one. Can't beat I9 though, they're the bread and butter of the hub design and manufacturing industry! :D
I'm exactly the same. Thankfully I use a EDM. Not a huge amount of work tbh
Actually many are better.
I9 is poorly sealed and pretty draggy.
@@EnglertRacing96 then maybe... mention some of the better ones?
@ThereIsNoSpoontang Project 321, chris king, and hadley are all lower drag and better sealed. They all also have preload adjusters.
@@EnglertRacing96 cool :) much appreciated
As a USA dude I support buying local and have owned 2 separate I9 wheelsets but had nothing but problems with both. Horrible bearings and a broken rear axle were the 2 main issues, but there were others. I know that lots of riders are super stoked with their I9s, but 2 sets were more than enough for me.
The bearings are industrial bearings and no cup and cone. I don't have an I9 hub but you could just use Timken or SKF bearings instead of the stock ones.
Nobody can make better bearings than the industry leaders from the US, Europe or Japan
It isn't the quality of the bearings - these hubs would destroy any bearings because of terrible design. Single pawl engagement ruins main bearing and freehub body bearings (and also breaks axles)
@@leoelkins3664 I overhauled a Tourney freehub body 2 days ago. It has 2 engagements, but they are not 180° on the other side, so there's also some force on the bearings of the freehub body.
However this hub is constructed in a way the cup and cone bearings of the wheel itself are independently from the bearings of the freehub body, and the freehub body dont put any extra stress on the main bearings. The main bearings run in the inner part of the freehub body, while the ratchet mechanism is engaging into the outer part of the freehub body which is made of steel too.
That was great . I have a pair of hydra hubs. Nice to see inside of process
I love I9!! They give me their blem hubs to make art. I wish my glass spoke wheel was there when you filmed there. I9 freakin' rules!
These are great hubs. We have a couple sets. I will say though, I can't tell much of a difference between 690 points of engagement and other low POE hubs. Regardless, they are durable and hold up to Clydesdale racing without issue. Also, i9 hubs have the widest flange spacing of any hubs I have found, which leads to a laterally stiffer wheel.
Thank you so much for the video. I am extremely intrigued on how things are made. I am a designer of my own products. Although they are wood products. I can’t wait until I buy a set of I9’s for my specialized turbo levo. Keep making videos like this.😊
That was so cool to see. Doddi would have loved that.
I wish I had all the tooling, milling and machinery that Industry nine has
Great hubs, been running them for 2 years now, only wished they had better bearing life in the wet tropical conditions.
Thanks GMBN-ABSOLUTELY LOVE I9 wheels!
Beautiful parts. I totally don't need them, but really want some now.
Love this! Thanks for the tour!
I just turned my pile of cash into an I9 EN300 wheel set. Super easy.
But seriously, I got this wheelset 6 months ago and it's been the best upgrade in my Specialized Turbo Levo. I instantly noticed the stiffness and improved bearing and freehub.
Well done with the technical explanations.
I have been rocking my i9s for a few years and can tell you it’s a kick butt product and their warranty has been insanely good. Will never own another wheelset ever.
My favorite! Love my i9 hubs!!!
Awesome,so much work and design go's into making a product,you dedefinitely pay for what you get.💯👌🏻
I've got the old torch hubs on my bike and they're super reliable and perform flawlessly. 3 years of seriously hard riding - bike parks, dusty conditions, crashes, cased jumps, etc... Still spin smooth and engage great. Honestly wouldn't be worth my money to upgrade to hydra
Love to see this kind of production
What?!! You guys were an hour away from me? Wish I had known! I want an autograph 😩
Great video! Looking forward for more like it. Thanks
Can't wait to get my i- nines. I'm hoping to have them by the end of the week
WOuld be good to see the Hope factory tour
DT swiss engineers seem to have different opinion regarding high POE 🤔
The only other hub I would consider is an onyx vesper, but the Hydra is even still so much lighter.
Imagine the outlay for this company to pay before they start earning a profit!
His dad's shop was the first thing she said. He had free materials and machines. All he had to do was design it. Youth not wasted.
And then think about how much a new car manufacturer has to invest before they can earn money.
They are making plenty of money 💰 🤑 💸
I made a MTB hub set on Colchester CNC in 1990 as an apprenticeship project . They worked well .
@@robertmcfadyen9156 in this case you used proper axles. My Scott Aspect has Tourney hubs from stock, and they worked surprisingly well until I rode some gnarlier trails the last time. I discovered a broken front axle (it's QR) last week.
It's just a 9 mm axle with a 5 mm hole in it and the effective diameter is even less since the 9 mm are the outer diameter of the thread.
I could repair it with a new inner axle, but I will switch to XT hubs in medium term which have a much thicker axle inside the hub
I love my hydra hubs. I've had them on my last two bikes.
Funny you guys did this segment on Industry Nine, I’d been looking into having them build me a set of wheels..
Next time somebody says these hubs are expensive, show them this video..
I much prefer Hope hubs with just 4 points of engagement but sounds even better
💥💥💥THE PROCESS IS AWESOME! 💥💥💥
So cool. Love the tour videos
One of those in red would look awesome on my whip.
Love it go to some more shops looks like 5dev are keen
Fascinating, thank you.
TQ... very nice documentary.
Amazed by the quality and level of manufacturing. Don’t see wire EDM in many afordable parts
This was a very Interesting video. Great job. 👍🏻
Hope y'all enjoyed ashville, i go there every now and then to ride and drink.
I live about an hour away from their factory and I took a tour there a couple years ago
Too bad we can't get any quick release axles anymore. Sadly everyone's gone to thru-axle, and 29er. I still ride 26" quick release wheels. Otherwise I'd seriously consider buying some. I love to see that parts are still made here in the USA. Thanks.
excellent video!
I wish I had that hub.
I kind of like the hub before the second polishing (7:09).
There 1/1 hubs are the best sounding hubs out of all the hubs out there just the right amount of sound 👍
its so funny you're doing these videos where I'm moving and your doing a video about machining. I've been a machinist for 30 years
Great show
that familiar sound " tunong mayaman" in the Philippines literally means sounds rich/expensive.
someone's dream has already come true love em
Industry 9 are the best! 🔥
😍These wheels are what someone's dreams are made of🥰
Galing! 😊
Those hubs are annoyingly loud. I like those Onyx quiet hubs.
Asheville is a cool town
Wonderful video.
Great video
missing Doddy, but this was great
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If you have the choice always pick forged parts over machined from solid.
Forged parts are much stronger.
The music mixed in at the ending was very distracting "bew bew bew bew bew bew" sounded like a japanese train crossing signal 😂
You guy's sold me on these wheels. Now if you could get my wallet on board that would be amazing.
is the hydra compatible with the hope pro 4 adapters
Shear perfection 🥰 😊😊
I love I9 wheels but I don't like aluminum spokes. I have seen catastrophic failures where spokes pulled out from the rim when a stick went through the wheel. I would much rather replace broken steel spokes. I9 makes a straight pull hub with steel spokes for Ibis, I just wish they offered one for the open market.
I assume the advantage of aluminium spokes for them is they can make them with thicker material without getting too much weight. A normal steel spoke has a smaller thread, this thread may be too small to screw it into an aluminium body. Aluminum is not like steel if you have threads in it, they can get pulled out. A steel spoke made of a thicker material however will weigh more
steel spokes also perform better as the damping effect is increased.
sheeeshhh I want one!!!!!!!
Beeaauutiful ⚡️ like shiny jewelry ✨
Would've been neat to learn if they employee their own engineer and if that person creates the files for CNC or do they sub that work out?
Only thing special about this hub is how easily the axles break. Engineering an axle that flexes to engage pawls out of a material that has no fatigue limit is no very bright. Stick with DT Swiss if you want something reliable!
I thought that was Marjorie Taylor Green at first lol. What an amazing process though. Such high quality!
Don’t insult Ana like that!
Thatz amazing
What about Onyx hubs with the Spragg clutch system. Practically 0° engagement
Made here in NC 🤙
Have the addressed the issue with bearings I can’t even get 200 miles on a set of bearings kinda a bummer for such a nice product
They're nice hubs but I'm not sold on alloy spokes or high POE.
1st. I’ve have i9 hubs on my bike and they are the most, man.
I can now appreciate why these are so expensive 😂
THE FORBIDDEN BLUE CHOCOLATE CHIPS
😋😋😋😋😋😋
Very nice ,very tech ,but WHERE IS DIRECT DISC MOUNT OPTION!!!!??????? Igues I go for DT SWISS
They sell hubs for center lock rotors if that's what you are after. I prefer them because it allows the flanges to be a little wider, so the wheel is laterally stiffer.
Ah the best sound in the universe
3:03 I can't believe I9 spokes are made from 7075 aluminum....or I have misunderstood something there.
Nah i prefer the Humble and Reliable DT Swiss.
Lifetime warranty? Like other big brands?
I cant believe it only takes 10 minutes to make a hub
I could imagene a industry 9 gmbn tech edition that would also be a nice logo
i need one
Standard PPE for a machine shop are safety glasses and ear protection! Great video but you're roaming about unprotected.
I’ve been there and got a tour from the owner