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Excellent video. Thanks for making it. Subscribed. I'm looking forward to more of your videos. If I could go back in time I would make a Alien sequel set in the old West where Xenomorphs are matched against professional gunfighters and hard-rock miners. Maybe in Carson City in the 19th century. Directed by Sam Peckinpah of course.
Alien 3 is one of those films that's actually gets better over time. Maybe due to the fact everything after was even worse! I watched it again and really enjoyed it. It's a grower.
@@tdcv6309 Just like the original then! I don't the problem, unless you are a bigot ofc but that's not me. Thank god I know that different people exist outside my own existence 🥰
@@FelinWood Show me "ONE" decent movie that puts woke jackshit above all else! Today's movies have proved time and time again that pushing woke ideas would supercede quality film-making and storytelling and entertaining people. Nobody's stopping you from accepting shit product for your money.
@@stewartwelsh785 These bigots are impossible to argue with. Only a person who thinks white is the norm are the ones who think a diverse cast is inherently bad.
Sharks are still recovering from Jaws. Hollywood has been exacerbating that misery & destruction for over half a century. For as much as I love H.R. Giger, god rest him, I’m glad he didn’t see his legacy watered down with modern poison.
I actually love the Alien versus Predator movie with it being in like Antarctica and the pyramid under the eyes because it kind of gives off Kurt Russell the thing Vibes so I thought it was pretty Kick-Ass
Great job on the video!! Here’s hoping that Alien Romulus will be great!! Can’t wait to go see it at the theater. When I seen Alien 3 at the theater, I was so mad they killed off Hicks and Newt that by the end of the movie, I didn’t even care that Ripley died. They should have stopped after that, lol.
I couldn’t believe that either, it’s such a contrast, like you feel from the beginning that it’s some kind of Alien 3 from evil reality where everything’s freaked up. Guess it’s really where we live huh 😅
Alien3 shit all over Aliens and the themes of family (Ripley and Hicks becoming Newt's parents) including loyalty and protection of your family. I can't get over how shit Alien3 was for pissing on my love of the Franchise in the opening minutes.
Studio influence on production times, story writing and direction is what killed it. People with lots of money and zero talent, telling the people with talent what to do and how to do it.
Great video! I think Romulus is gonna be fairly good, but trying to not get my hopes to high anyways! I LOVE the first and 2nd movies, after that they are either ok-ish for popcorn munching but thats all, but I do find cool stuff in any of the movies in the franchise except for AVP which I always refused to watch idk why lol
48 seconds in and I love it so far. Glad to be one of the first to support a channel with such potential. Only one suggestion, give the Hollywood Lore title card for a few more seconds then hard cut to black, then fade into the first chapter. That’ll draw the view in, especially since the rest of the video has such a great, fast paced kinetic energy. (Edit) the writing is really really good. It’s clever (shoot a shark into space haha!) and it flows really well.
Thank you for appreciating the script, my wife wrote it, she is so happy now) regarding the intro - will check it out, thanks! Funny thing, I spent days on intros for previous videos, just to delete them now. One intro was so good, it’s deletion launched the video into space lol
James Remar was actually fired because he got arrest and UK deported him, not necessarily just because him and Cameron butted heads. Also Sigourney Weaver, Bill Paxton, and others have praised Cameron as being very easy to work with. Sigourney has cited this was her favorite Alien movie to make.
I feel that after alien and aliens the franchise was always trying to be like or better than those first two films. I feel like the alien story is repeated with people just trying to survive a xenomorph outbreak again and again.
To be fair, when HAS a big successful film (or two in the case of Alien) not been let down by an ever-dwindling string of crappy sequels. Nobody ever listened to John and Paul: LET IT BE
What happened? First Jeunet tried to add comedy in Resurrection and thenSir Ridley Scott made Prometheus and followed it up with Alien Covenant. Beside that I think the franchise still has a lot of potential and I’m curious for Romulus
My favorite movie series, not just the first two films. Alien 3 and even Resurrection added so many creative ideas which are now widely used in all Alien-based video gamrs, films, novels and comic stories. Should I hate them because of Hicks/Newt death? Only childish fanatics do that. Newt would be played by other actress anyway and I'm sure, annoying fans would cry and whine as usual, so. Prometheus and Covenant also brought many interesting things - my least fav Alien films but still interesting.
Alien, Aliens, Alien3 are great movies. 3 is rough, but it is a concise end to Ellen Ripley's storyline. I ignore Resurrection, AVPs (AVP movies, not comics), Pro, and Covenant which completely ruins the "space jockey elephantoid race" turning them into "Engineers" and ignores cannon of the universe. I would urge anyone enamoured with the first few films: Read the Books and Comics! That is where the 'Alien' universe thrives.
Definitely! Alien franchise is at it's best when it's not trying to over-explain itself - not stupid origin stories that remove the mystery of the alien. I mean, the first movie is called ALIEN for reason- it's not just because of the space monster, but because everything about it is ALIEN, unknown from depths of space. Comics work because they had the sense to be mostly single stories within it's own universe. Something like _Labyrinth_ is a million times better than Prometheus or Covenant- a single story about a scientist who against all odds survives within an alien nest, but loses his sanity and humanity in the process, but learns something valuable about the creatures. Stuff like this is great - it doesn't try to create lore that by overexplaining the background removes the mystery of the alien. Ridley Scott's ego the best of him. Its mind-boggling that he didn't understand his own creation. Power of H.R. Gigers paintings, from which the figure of alien originated - were powerful because they were literally from dreams and nightmares. Not explained to the point you have nothing of the mystery left...
A lot of weird people love Alien 3. Its some arthouse horror film to these people. But honestly, its so disgusting and insulting that it ruined all faith in this franchise. No one who loves Alien 3 seems to respect how awful it is that they dissected Newt so quickly, so callously... like she meant nothing to Ripley. Like Newt meant nothing to the audience. Then Ripley goes and spreads eagle for the nearest ex-con...? WTF?! That is not Ripley. Thats what i would expect from a cheap character in Friday the 13th
a lot of stupidity by the studios and a lot of incompetence by the story writers. after Alien and Aliens, Weaver didn't want to do another. so the logical thing to happen if they wanted to do another Alien movie was use Hicks and Bishop. Alien 3 should have had a brief Ripley cameo with Newt saying they were going into hiding to keep the company from exploiting them, while the franchise would move from there to Hicks and Bishop fighting WY from the shadows. they had several good stories ready to go that would have allowed the series to flourish. AvP could have worked too had they not done it in the modern days. basic outline could have been OWL was working with WY to learn about the Predators and find their homeworld when the Nostromo incident takes place and two organizations go their separate ways. eventually the story works out that both groups get caught up in the middle of their own follies and face the consequences. They could have still done a Ridley prequel focusing on David, but it would have needed a lot of work. Hopefully Romulus is good and can at least right the boat storyline wise.
To be honest films like terminator and alien are self contained stories that are finished by the sequel.trying to make a franchise out of it is problematic,because you can t keep defeating the aliens or terminator without weakening them and thus making the subsequent storyline preposterous. The same thing happened in star trek where you had the borg who were invincible until one small ship in the voyager series destroyed them.the problem is greed and the studio wants a director who will just do what they say and so the creativity that the director has is not allowed to flourish.( see recent marvel movies)
While the original script basis my have been in Jaws the movie only got made because of star wars. The og script had been sitting about for ages woth no green lights or interest before star wars and then a Sci-fi movie rush was kicked off due to how successful it's release was.
There were great scripts for alien 3, but the good ones aas discarded. They wanted to produce cheap as possible and we got alien 3 junk which ruined the ending of aliens. Alien resurrection became junk as they needed a story tonl bring back signourney and that story plus ruining it with bad lioking alien, only pluss is they angled to towards linking it to predator which the avp in the comics was a great source. The avp movie had many good ideas but poor acting and nad script made it bad. The requiem tried and was medicore. Then finally the man himself Ridley Scott, took a Gerohe lucas, did fall in the same trap leaning on cginl gallore. At least lucas had a good script and decent actors. The Prometheus and Covenant was filled with plot holes, defently ruined the original and so many dumb characters it was like homer simpson in space. There is fortinatly many fan short movies, that is waaaay better than what 100mill+ can do. All directors hot lazy after early success and lost their creativity and also having political agenda and forced diversity into movies doesn't help either. There is no hope for this franchise. It isndead like so many others.
I like Prometheus and alien Covenant but what pissed me off was I wanted to see more of the Giants and the engineers world and by the time we get there it's already destroyed by the damn robot and so that's what aggravated me the most about that movie. Otherwise those are my two favorite of all of the aliens movies because I'm more into the futuristic Theology of where they would have came from and who created them then the horror aspect and so if they make another movie in line with Prometheus Covenant then you can count me there day one
… it COULD, Prometheus was definitely different and not as great as Alien 1. Yet it was its own thing, it was leading somewhere. But nope, Ridley back tracked… years wasting.
I like Prometheus a lot. I wanted to like Covenant as well but it was so darn frustrating especially with the moronic characters. Prometheus had some too but it was carried by a stronger cast and world building.
Roger that, saw the first one and had only seen the preview, scared the piss outta everybody. Alien's is by far the best! Both had a great cast, first was the horror part and 2 was were bout to kick your ass! Ole Guy
@@ch3no2killz I saw the third and part of the fourth, so is not like I didn't them a chance. However, those sequels were stupid and boring, IMO, so any sequels after that, I just didn't bother to watch.
Ridley scott is no savior lol hes the only director with such high accolades that will come in and make a straight to dvd quality sequel of his own acclaimed franchises smh covenant had potential, but im guessing he couldnt handle the criticism of prometheus, and just trashed the whole plot of the engineers. In favor of a shit action script.
I'm very sure that Disney is going to finally ram the franchise into the ground. How about non-binary aliens with African-American or, optionally, Asian roots and a gay spaceship crew.
If any of these things actually happen in a film I'd be happy. As long as the story is good and that the cast feels natural rather than used just to fill quotas.
Romulus is garbage. Makes sense now though. Dudes pitch was just a hodge podge of every other movie. I guess you could call that returning to its roots smh.
Hello everyone and welcome to Hollywood lore! It's awkward to leave a first comment on a video with so little views, so I'll do it for ya!
This video was inspired by recent release of Alien Romulus trailer, which i reacted to, it was a nice experience and I'm excited about the movie. Hope you enjoy the video and if you liked it - consider subscribing, more is to come!
Excellent video. Thanks for making it.
Subscribed. I'm looking forward to more of your videos.
If I could go back in time I would make a Alien sequel set in the old West where Xenomorphs are matched against professional gunfighters and hard-rock miners. Maybe in Carson City in the 19th century.
Directed by Sam Peckinpah of course.
@@racistantisemite2625 wow, reminds me a bit of Cowboy's vs Aliens. Stupid movie but two beers did the job) who would you cast?
Alien 3 is one of those films that's actually gets better over time. Maybe due to the fact everything after was even worse! I watched it again and really enjoyed it. It's a grower.
Corporate happened. that's what.
I honestly feel like it’s the expanded universe material (Books, comics, and video games) that’s what really keeps this franchise alive
As someone whose all-time favourite film is Alien, I’m cautiously optimistic about the Fede Alvarez film.
Did you see the culturally sensitive all inclusive woke casting?
@@tdcv6309 Just like the original then! I don't the problem, unless you are a bigot ofc but that's not me. Thank god I know that different people exist outside my own existence 🥰
@@FelinWood Show me "ONE" decent movie that puts woke jackshit above all else! Today's movies have proved time and time again that pushing woke ideas would supercede quality film-making and storytelling and entertaining people. Nobody's stopping you from accepting shit product for your money.
@@tdcv6309what Culturally sensitive cast? I saw one black character.
@@stewartwelsh785 These bigots are impossible to argue with. Only a person who thinks white is the norm are the ones who think a diverse cast is inherently bad.
Sharks are still recovering from Jaws.
Hollywood has been exacerbating that misery & destruction for over half a century.
For as much as I love H.R. Giger, god rest him, I’m glad he didn’t see his legacy watered down with modern poison.
Remar wasn't fired for thinking he knew the character, it was because he had a drug problem.
I just commented a similar thing before I saw your comment 😊
I actually love the Alien versus Predator movie with it being in like Antarctica and the pyramid under the eyes because it kind of gives off Kurt Russell the thing Vibes so I thought it was pretty Kick-Ass
I think the underwater scene in alien 4 was one of the best alien scenes ever :)
Great job on the video!! Here’s hoping that Alien Romulus will be great!! Can’t wait to go see it at the theater. When I seen Alien 3 at the theater, I was so mad they killed off Hicks and Newt that by the end of the movie, I didn’t even care that Ripley died. They should have stopped after that, lol.
I couldn’t believe that either, it’s such a contrast, like you feel from the beginning that it’s some kind of Alien 3 from evil reality where everything’s freaked up. Guess it’s really where we live huh 😅
Alien3 shit all over Aliens and the themes of family (Ripley and Hicks becoming Newt's parents) including loyalty and protection of your family.
I can't get over how shit Alien3 was for pissing on my love of the Franchise in the opening minutes.
Studio influence on production times, story writing and direction is what killed it. People with lots of money and zero talent, telling the people with talent what to do and how to do it.
Great video! I think Romulus is gonna be fairly good, but trying to not get my hopes to high anyways! I LOVE the first and 2nd movies, after that they are either ok-ish for popcorn munching but thats all, but I do find cool stuff in any of the movies in the franchise except for AVP which I always refused to watch idk why lol
Its bullshit we never got Alien Awakening bringing back David. He was amazing in these movies.
This is so high quality for such a small channel, I hope to see your channel grow and get the attention it deserves! 💙
I heard about Disney's new Alien movie, something about A.I. Ian Holms and more Black Goo. Not interested in paying to see it on that alone.
48 seconds in and I love it so far. Glad to be one of the first to support a channel with such potential. Only one suggestion, give the Hollywood Lore title card for a few more seconds then hard cut to black, then fade into the first chapter. That’ll draw the view in, especially since the rest of the video has such a great, fast paced kinetic energy. (Edit) the writing is really really good. It’s clever (shoot a shark into space haha!) and it flows really well.
Thank you for appreciating the script, my wife wrote it, she is so happy now) regarding the intro - will check it out, thanks! Funny thing, I spent days on intros for previous videos, just to delete them now. One intro was so good, it’s deletion launched the video into space lol
Don't forget David Twohy wrote a script for Alien 3. He tweaked it and it became Pitch Black
Great video 👍🏻 keep going!
James Remar was actually fired because he got arrest and UK deported him, not necessarily just because him and Cameron butted heads. Also Sigourney Weaver, Bill Paxton, and others have praised Cameron as being very easy to work with. Sigourney has cited this was her favorite Alien movie to make.
"Alien Vs. Predator: Requiem" is one of the worst shot films I have ever tried to see. I think it must've been lit with candles.
Romulus was bad.
I feel that after alien and aliens the franchise was always trying to be like or better than those first two films. I feel like the alien story is repeated with people just trying to survive a xenomorph outbreak again and again.
Franchises should end after the second installment. It ALWAYS ends badly after that. It's a law of nature.
love how you put fitgirl's pix in there (yes I know it's amelie)
To be fair, when HAS a big successful film (or two in the case of Alien) not been let down by an ever-dwindling string of crappy sequels. Nobody ever listened to John and Paul: LET IT BE
Despite being unpopular, I did enjoy some of the later Terminator sequels.
What happened? First Jeunet tried to add comedy in Resurrection and thenSir Ridley Scott made Prometheus and followed it up with Alien Covenant. Beside that I think the franchise still has a lot of potential and I’m curious for Romulus
Nice. - And Good Job.
My favorite movie series, not just the first two films. Alien 3 and even Resurrection added so many creative ideas which are now widely used in all Alien-based video gamrs, films, novels and comic stories. Should I hate them because of Hicks/Newt death? Only childish fanatics do that. Newt would be played by other actress anyway and I'm sure, annoying fans would cry and whine as usual, so.
Prometheus and Covenant also brought many interesting things - my least fav Alien films but still interesting.
To be honest,Disney grabbed it and fucked it up totally...
Alien 3 happened and then when there was a glimmer of hope, scott came back and made Covenant
Alien, Aliens, Alien3 are great movies. 3 is rough, but it is a concise end to Ellen Ripley's storyline.
I ignore Resurrection, AVPs (AVP movies, not comics), Pro, and Covenant which completely ruins the "space jockey elephantoid race" turning them into "Engineers" and ignores cannon of the universe.
I would urge anyone enamoured with the first few films: Read the Books and Comics! That is where the 'Alien' universe thrives.
Definitely! Alien franchise is at it's best when it's not trying to over-explain itself - not stupid origin stories that remove the mystery of the alien. I mean, the first movie is called ALIEN for reason- it's not just because of the space monster, but because everything about it is ALIEN, unknown from depths of space.
Comics work because they had the sense to be mostly single stories within it's own universe.
Something like _Labyrinth_ is a million times better than Prometheus or Covenant- a single story about a scientist who against all odds survives within an alien nest, but loses his sanity and humanity in the process, but learns something valuable about the creatures.
Stuff like this is great - it doesn't try to create lore that by overexplaining the background removes the mystery of the alien.
Ridley Scott's ego the best of him. Its mind-boggling that he didn't understand his own creation.
Power of H.R. Gigers paintings, from which the figure of alien originated - were powerful because they were literally from dreams and nightmares. Not explained to the point you have nothing of the mystery left...
Remar was fired due to drug use. That’s according to Remar himself.
new upcoming movie FEATURING KIDS and TEENAGERS
A lot of weird people love Alien 3. Its some arthouse horror film to these people.
But honestly, its so disgusting and insulting that it ruined all faith in this franchise. No one who loves Alien 3 seems to respect how awful it is that they dissected Newt so quickly, so callously... like she meant nothing to Ripley. Like Newt meant nothing to the audience. Then Ripley goes and spreads eagle for the nearest ex-con...? WTF?! That is not Ripley. Thats what i would expect from a cheap character in Friday the 13th
a lot of stupidity by the studios and a lot of incompetence by the story writers. after Alien and Aliens, Weaver didn't want to do another. so the logical thing to happen if they wanted to do another Alien movie was use Hicks and Bishop. Alien 3 should have had a brief Ripley cameo with Newt saying they were going into hiding to keep the company from exploiting them, while the franchise would move from there to Hicks and Bishop fighting WY from the shadows. they had several good stories ready to go that would have allowed the series to flourish. AvP could have worked too had they not done it in the modern days. basic outline could have been OWL was working with WY to learn about the Predators and find their homeworld when the Nostromo incident takes place and two organizations go their separate ways. eventually the story works out that both groups get caught up in the middle of their own follies and face the consequences. They could have still done a Ridley prequel focusing on David, but it would have needed a lot of work. Hopefully Romulus is good and can at least right the boat storyline wise.
It's surprising that anything got filmed with all that ego going on in the background.
Things are much better if you just think of it as the one film. Alien is exceptional, and the other films are not. Don't need them, don't want them.
I thought James Remar was sacked for drug related incident. Great vid though😊
To be honest films like terminator and alien are self contained stories that are finished by the sequel.trying to make a franchise out of it is problematic,because you can t keep defeating the aliens or terminator without weakening them and thus making the subsequent storyline preposterous. The same thing happened in star trek where you had the borg who were invincible until one small ship in the voyager series destroyed them.the problem is greed and the studio wants a director who will just do what they say and so the creativity that the director has is not allowed to flourish.( see recent marvel movies)
I like Alien Resurrection, and the first AVP too, but I know I'm in a minority.
Alien 3 happened
While the original script basis my have been in Jaws the movie only got made because of star wars. The og script had been sitting about for ages woth no green lights or interest before star wars and then a Sci-fi movie rush was kicked off due to how successful it's release was.
There were great scripts for alien 3, but the good ones aas discarded. They wanted to produce cheap as possible and we got alien 3 junk which ruined the ending of aliens. Alien resurrection became junk as they needed a story tonl bring back signourney and that story plus ruining it with bad lioking alien, only pluss is they angled to towards linking it to predator which the avp in the comics was a great source. The avp movie had many good ideas but poor acting and nad script made it bad. The requiem tried and was medicore. Then finally the man himself Ridley Scott, took a Gerohe lucas, did fall in the same trap leaning on cginl gallore. At least lucas had a good script and decent actors. The Prometheus and Covenant was filled with plot holes, defently ruined the original and so many dumb characters it was like homer simpson in space. There is fortinatly many fan short movies, that is waaaay better than what 100mill+ can do. All directors hot lazy after early success and lost their creativity and also having political agenda and forced diversity into movies doesn't help either. There is no hope for this franchise. It isndead like so many others.
Homer Simpson in space lawl
I love all the Alien Films that have Ellen Ripley in them... which is all of them, because the one's that don't have her are NOT Alien Films, lol.
I like Prometheus and alien Covenant but what pissed me off was I wanted to see more of the Giants and the engineers world and by the time we get there it's already destroyed by the damn robot and so that's what aggravated me the most about that movie. Otherwise those are my two favorite of all of the aliens movies because I'm more into the futuristic Theology of where they would have came from and who created them then the horror aspect and so if they make another movie in line with Prometheus Covenant then you can count me there day one
… it COULD, Prometheus was definitely different and not as great as Alien 1. Yet it was its own thing, it was leading somewhere.
But nope, Ridley back tracked… years wasting.
Why people get so offended by Prometheus and Covenant is beyond me. People just want bugs being shot in space. Morons.
I like Prometheus a lot.
I wanted to like Covenant as well but it was so darn frustrating especially with the moronic characters.
Prometheus had some too but it was carried by a stronger cast and world building.
Urgent message to Ridley Scott - please stop flogging a long dead horse!
IMO, there are only TWO Alien movies: Alien and Aliens. I refuse to acknowledge the rest.😁
Roger that, saw the first one and had only seen the preview, scared the piss outta everybody. Alien's is by far the best! Both had a great cast, first was the horror part and 2 was were bout to kick your ass! Ole Guy
@@ch3no2killz I saw the third and part of the fourth, so is not like I didn't them a chance. However, those sequels were stupid and boring, IMO, so any sequels after that, I just didn't bother to watch.
The AI voice is pretty good. Wasn't till the end that it clicked.
The franchise has been in a downfall since Alien 3.
It's too big to be cult
Ridley scott is no savior lol hes the only director with such high accolades that will come in and make a straight to dvd quality sequel of his own acclaimed franchises smh covenant had potential, but im guessing he couldnt handle the criticism of prometheus, and just trashed the whole plot of the engineers. In favor of a shit action script.
Loves ws Anderson? Cameron is even dumber than i thought. No wonder hes never, not once, had an original idea smh
I'm very sure that Disney is going to finally ram the franchise into the ground. How about non-binary aliens with African-American or, optionally, Asian roots and a gay spaceship crew.
If any of these things actually happen in a film I'd be happy. As long as the story is good and that the cast feels natural rather than used just to fill quotas.
Hot take, 3 and 4 are better than 1 and 2. Well, the assembly cut of 3, or whatever they called it.
They make more money out of trashy sequels today than they used to.
Aliens 3 🗑👎🗑
I fuckin hate Alien 3
A true Alien fan would not even acknowledge Alien 3. IMHO....Alien Resurrection was wonderful and should have been Alien 3.
i hate Alien Resurrection 1997🤬😡
You're nowhere near a true Alien fan if you ignore all the great innovations Alien 3 added just because of stupid Hicks/Newt death
Aliens happend.
Romulus is garbage. Makes sense now though. Dudes pitch was just a hodge podge of every other movie. I guess you could call that returning to its roots smh.
There is no Alien without Ellen Ripley. 🥲