I work applying Isophorone Diisocyanate and poly resin to labels and im not given PPE to use and often go home with a very sore throat. I may have to show this video!
So I just found this video, and I deal with tdi and tds on a daily basis (the raw material) and this is crazy to me that this video needs to be here. Hope that everyone handling this material is safe
Hi Steve, yes sounds a great idea we'll put it on our list. Knowing when to change your filters is as important as putting them in , in the first place! If you ever buy from us let us know in the order notes and we'll give you some free loyalty points as thanks for the suggestion. KR Ultrimax
@@the_sharp_carpenter 1k still has ISO in but its marginal so you would only have to wear a standard mask half face Gerson or something like that with water based 1k (Ie sayerlack at99). Much better for you and no nasty smells in your customers kitchen after spraying!
@@the_sharp_carpenter supplied air is always better Rodney as long as the air is fed from outside of the area / booth ideally directly from outside then that is about as good as you are going to get when teamed with a fully enclosed overall, gloves protective boots and eyewear
depends what you're spraying i guess? but if it's 2 pack even if the regulations say not to wear air fed in the US i'd ask your employer to provide it. It may be their pocket but it's your health !
I’m a welder for a large steel fab uk company I often smell the paint fumes in my air fed welding screen I get head aches sore throat they tell us it’s in guide line done test with air monitors I’m off with chest infection is that a coincidence
Hi David, depending on your system here we would suggest that if you are getting paint fumes in your air line you need to change your belt based filter or your wall (attached to the main system) filter. Paint fumes normally indicate that the system isn't filtering the nasty microbes and particles out for the clean air system. When you smell paint in the air line you don't want to continue using it. Hope the chest infection improves and although we could never say that is a direct result of your job role its definitely worth sorting that airline issue to ensure future health problems don't make your chest infection worse.
@@ultrimaxcoatingsltd you misunderstand me I’m welding with a battery powered air fed welding mask I have fume filter particle and pre filter and still get fume round my face
@@davidpierce7318 ah ok well even more so that is understandable. A battery air fed back is only pulling in air from your surroundings ie: directly around your body so its understandable that you will pull atmospheric smells from around your mask (ie it is pulling air directly around your body in the location you are ) so if the paint is in the same location as your body then you pull those smells in too. To have no smells in your mask and for safety an airfed system where air is pulled from an external fresh air source is recommended (especially if you have 2k paint in your vicinity)
HI Matt what product are you using and we'll be able to advise you ? Each one has so many chemicals its sometimes easier to go off that rather than a chemical compound. KR Andy Ultrimax Team
3M make it very clear. When using isocyanates, ONLY a supplied air respirator can be used to provide adequate protection. 3M do not recommend using any cartridge style respirator when exposed to isocyanates. Again, that's from 3M.
Thanks for this video, I just over this weekend sprayed a small amount of 2k clear (about 5ml) for a model I was painting, but when looking away from the booth the room I was in was cloudy. I was wearing a respirator, window open, air filter on and spray booth on but I fear I may have started something. I've had a dry-ish throat since the spraying day. A doctors call might be in order 😐
if in doubt always get a medical professionals opinion Kurtis. Some people are allergic to certain chemicals within paints in the same way you can have an allergy to peanuts etc so its best to get a test done early rather than risk your lungs ...they are pretty crucial to how you work !
I work applying Isophorone Diisocyanate and poly resin to labels and im not given PPE to use and often go home with a very sore throat. I may have to show this video!
So I just found this video, and I deal with tdi and tds on a daily basis (the raw material) and this is crazy to me that this video needs to be here. Hope that everyone handling this material is safe
you would be amazed how many facilities we go into where we see guys spraying 2pk with jeans a tshirt and a medical mask !
Maybe you can do a video on what happens to the painter's when the shop doesn't change the booth filters when they get clogged.
Hi Steve, yes sounds a great idea we'll put it on our list. Knowing when to change your filters is as important as putting them in , in the first place! If you ever buy from us let us know in the order notes and we'll give you some free loyalty points as thanks for the suggestion. KR Ultrimax
@@ultrimaxcoatingsltd how often should we be changing the paper filters in the booth.
Very informative piece. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Been air spraying a remodel with 3 face mask on for the past 2 days. Should I be concerned? How much exposure does it take to become dangerously sick?
My uncle passed away from not wearing his PPE. He developed a rare cancer.
that's awful news Oscar, I hope this video will help a painter out there wear the kit and save his future!
Sorry for your loss, how long was he working without ppe?
How long ago? What were his symptoms??
Do you know if the Irurena waterborne systems have isocyanate in them?
Hi yes even though its waterbased as a Pu 2k paint it will still contain Iso just not nearly as much as the comparable solvent version.
@@ultrimaxcoatingsltd but the 1k won't,.is this correct
@@the_sharp_carpenter 1k still has ISO in but its marginal so you would only have to wear a standard mask half face Gerson or something like that with water based 1k (Ie sayerlack at99). Much better for you and no nasty smells in your customers kitchen after spraying!
@@ultrimaxcoatingsltd so a 3m versaflow with multi gas/p100 would be definitely enough.
@@the_sharp_carpenter supplied air is always better Rodney as long as the air is fed from outside of the area / booth ideally directly from outside then that is about as good as you are going to get when teamed with a fully enclosed overall, gloves protective boots and eyewear
I spray in a well ventillated booth but here in United States were only required to wear full respirator not air fed
depends what you're spraying i guess? but if it's 2 pack even if the regulations say not to wear air fed in the US i'd ask your employer to provide it. It may be their pocket but it's your health !
3M 60926 Multiple Gases/Vapor Cartridge/Filter Combo P100 is approved for prevention of Isocyanate exposure in the USA...
I’m a welder for a large steel fab uk company I often smell the paint fumes in my air fed welding screen I get head aches sore throat they tell us it’s in guide line done test with air monitors I’m off with chest infection is that a coincidence
Hi David, depending on your system here we would suggest that if you are getting paint fumes in your air line you need to change your belt based filter or your wall (attached to the main system) filter. Paint fumes normally indicate that the system isn't filtering the nasty microbes and particles out for the clean air system. When you smell paint in the air line you don't want to continue using it. Hope the chest infection improves and although we could never say that is a direct result of your job role its definitely worth sorting that airline issue to ensure future health problems don't make your chest infection worse.
@@ultrimaxcoatingsltd you misunderstand me I’m welding with a battery powered air fed welding mask I have fume filter particle and pre filter and still get fume round my face
@@davidpierce7318 ah ok well even more so that is understandable. A battery air fed back is only pulling in air from your surroundings ie: directly around your body so its understandable that you will pull atmospheric smells from around your mask (ie it is pulling air directly around your body in the location you are ) so if the paint is in the same location as your body then you pull those smells in too. To have no smells in your mask and for safety an airfed system where air is pulled from an external fresh air source is recommended (especially if you have 2k paint in your vicinity)
Is the Aziridine crosslinker as bad?
HI Matt what product are you using and we'll be able to advise you ? Each one has so many chemicals its sometimes easier to go off that rather than a chemical compound. KR Andy Ultrimax Team
Are there any supplements to help? I am a spray operator and nobody wears a mask because of the heat in the factory 😮
NO! please wear an air fed mask. It isn't comfortable it isn't easy to move around I know ! But it will save your life !!
I bought the hobby 1 air respirator system for 500 worth every penny now I'm just breathing fresh clean air
3M make it very clear. When using isocyanates, ONLY a supplied air respirator can be used to provide adequate protection. 3M do not recommend using any cartridge style respirator when exposed to isocyanates. Again, that's from 3M.
Does take alot or just litte
usually a lot but that isn't to say a single large exposure could cause health issues.
Thanks for this video, I just over this weekend sprayed a small amount of 2k clear (about 5ml) for a model I was painting, but when looking away from the booth the room I was in was cloudy.
I was wearing a respirator, window open, air filter on and spray booth on but I fear I may have started something. I've had a dry-ish throat since the spraying day.
A doctors call might be in order 😐
if in doubt always get a medical professionals opinion Kurtis. Some people are allergic to certain chemicals within paints in the same way you can have an allergy to peanuts etc so its best to get a test done early rather than risk your lungs ...they are pretty crucial to how you work !
Perspective is not decided by choice of lenses, Professor!
depends which side of the argument you are I guess. Think breathing Iso only has one outcome lens