OMEGA - PLEASE re release the classic 2254.50 sword hand model with *slim* case, tapered speedy bracelet but adding micro-adjust. That would be the perfect watch. Please do it!
I’ve got the Omega OEM Milanese on my Green Seamaster 300m. I’ve worn it for 18 months now and it’s incredibly comfortable and well fitting. I’ve never caught it on anything, once either. It’s a premium Milanese bracelet that’s about as far from being a junky, generic and crappy bracelet as you can get. If you go to a decent Omega store they’ll also tell you it comes in 3 different sizes too, which really helps with finding a the perfect fit.
I really love this bracelet. Added one to my 50th anniversary 300m GMT and it's awesome now. I think Omega needs to make a point of explaining the different sizes of the mesh better. The first time I tried on the NTTD version I didn't like it but once I got the right size it fit like a dream.
Another omega fan here. Sold all my collection and kept my Omega Seamaster Diver 300. I love the helium escape valve and I’d want it kept. Otherwise, I’m still waiting for a thinner, tapered bracelet, and at least 40mm in size. Missed opportunity.
I own two Planet Oceans and love those watches. I am not a fan of the Omega wave dial or the skeleton hands, and I will never buy one as a result. Thanks for an honest review, I am subscribing to your channel as a result.
Does that not make it a different watch? Don't get me wrong, that sounds good, but make it a different model and keep the traditional Diver 300 and it's heritage.
IMO that makes it look like a submariner with sword hands not an original design. It's like asking to remove the magnifying glass from a sub. No more character.
This video and Brendan Boswell’s video about Omega dumping stock on to gray market dealers at lower discounts than to customers through ADs have changed my mind on OMEGA. I was very excited for this new no date SMP300. All it needed was the sword hands to be 100% perfect. You’re bringing very valid points I did not think about. This is the value of independent people doing TH-cam videos on things they truly care about instead of trying to sell you something.
@MrEliwankenobi I still think Omega makes fantastic watches. The Globemaster for example, and the Aqua Terra are superb watches. However the SMP300 is their flagship model and it needs to be perfect.
Really become a fan of the channel. Totally unpretentious and honest. Refreshing to see a genuine watch enthusiast share his thoughts and opinions. Love the Peter Blake Omega, I have the 2255.80 Electric Blue and love it. Omega made their best watches in the 2000’s.
Thank you for the feedback. It's fun to make videos of just general watch stuff, and I'm glad some people enjoy that! And yes I agree that the late 90s through the 2000s era Omegas are the best!
I just bought the Monochrome titanium gray with the gray rubber foldover clasp strap. I like it. I also have the Sapphire Sandwich Moonwatch, so I might see if that tapered bracelet fits the seamaster.
It's unbelievable that you have the sapphire sandwich, I do as well, and it's also unbelievable that you have the grey over grey Sea master as that's my next watch purchase. I am waiting for the FOIS new model which is in the post. Can I ask how you are getting on with the rubber strap? This is the only thing that I'm concerned about as I don't have any rubber straps in my collection
@@G1CHO I really like the rubber deployant. The high contact points on the band are rubber so the metal deployant doesn't get scratched while Im wearing it. All my cars are grey, alot of clothes too, so it goes with all my stuff :)
You make some good points Mark. In my opinion, I think many of the high-end Swiss watch makers seem to have a level of arrogance as a result of their perception of exclusivity that dominates their design efforts over market demands that are of little concern to them.
@swkohnle08 I agree, they don't really care for market feedback. If they adopted some of the simple changes we all want they would sell Seamasters like hot cakes!
Dead on. Sword hands and small valve. I like the dial they have on it and the round lume plots. I’d put a date wheel at 3, aluminum bezel and speed master bracelet
Massive anticlimax. I had great expectations for new Seamaster range. Sword hands, thinner and hidden helium escape valve and I would be on the waiting list.
I just bought the new Seamaster 300 no date on a rubber strap. I thought the milanese bracelet looked cool but I tried it on and I didn't really get on with it. I really like the rubber so went with that. I was on the verge of buying the white ceramic seamaster and I'm glad I waited for the black no date. I find the no date gives a no nonsense look to the watch and while I don't have anything against dates on watches I've never actually thought I don't know what the date is. Ever. On the helium escape valve I find that its a signature of the watch and it doesn't detract from the look at all. I mean a Porsche 911 has basically looked the same for the last 60 years. As a design it is flawed but it is what makes the car what it is. As RWD says it all about personal preferences. I bought an Explorerr II as my tool watch and I loved it but I just couldn't get on with it somehow. This is my new beater, to be worn everyday with everything. I would urge you all to go to your AD and try it on and be guided by how it makes you feel. I'm super happy with my choice. Its £300 more than the black ceramic 300m on rubber but it's a 'new' watch with a deployment clasp rather than pin and buckle. Also everything is going up in price and in real terms I don't see it as paying a premium for less I'm paying for what I want. Love the channel btw.
Congratulations on buying the Seamaster. It's a terrific watch, and my gripes with it are all because of personal preferences, which aren't universally shared and your post highlights that! I tried the Bond 60th on that mesh bracelet and it was horrible. Some people say you need to get the right size bracelet but I think that's just making the best of a bad bracelet. The rubber strap is the way to go on this model, and maybe a nice Omega NATO too!!
Thanks Mark. I'll just stick my 2254.50 Peter Blake on a strapcode tapered Milanese bracelet (which has a much slimmer clasp) and Bob's your uncle, the watch that Omega should have released, PLUS I have saved myself a chunk of money! 😉
@DavidMaddern I'm definitely not giving up on Omega and still think that one day in my lifetime they will release the perfect re-edition of the 2254.50. It could have been this watch but they are obviously committed to a different path right now
Totally agree with most of your points. Less watch for more money is effectively what they have done. I don’t like the omega mesh either, terrible fit and too thick. Seamasters look great on a mesh so I’ve bought non omega ones for both of mine. I’m not sure they will ever go back to the sword hands though. I know some people prefer an aluminium bezel for various reasons but I’m not one of them so to me they have provided an inferior quality bezel for more money. A lot of people would like it smaller as well. With the domed sapphire crystal this watch is 13.8mm in height so the case on its own is slimmer than the standard version. I wish they had made a flat sapphire crystal then we might have got an overall watch height of 12.8 instead, which a lot of people have been asking for as well.
The watch is beautiful and the only thing Omega really needs to do is improve the teeth on the bezel for better grip. That bezel has never really been very easy to turn. That is the only complaint. It is a work of art. I also love the no date option. Clean. And I really don't know anyone who really pays much attention to the date on a watch.
Hey Mark couldn't agree more. I do like the dial, but thats it. I'm in the market for a seamaster currently and this and the new ones I looked at in an AD are making me head for the neo-vintage models like the 2254 and the blue dialed one in titanium.
@tioaboa thanks and yes I think the neo vintage SMs are the sweet spot and much easier to get serviced too. The glossy dialled ceramic version, before it went fully in-house is a lovely transitional model too. Worth looking at those. They ran up until 2018.
Nice rant mate. Omega fan here, but by gees talk about flogging a dead horse. I truly believe they’ve lost their design team to some micro brand. I’m afraid the Swiss luxury watch business model is employed holistically throughout and that being they make a larger profit from raising prices and selling fewer “cheaper “ models. Unfortunately us as consumers and enthusiasts are the biggest losers
Thank you sir, and I agree with you wholeheartedly. Omega has lost its edge, and even before this with their gimmicky Speedmasters and the awful new micro adjust on the Aqua Terra bracelet. Basic fundamental design laziness.
I got the SMP on the bracelet and was using almost the full range of microadjust (9 mm) every day. Then I switched to the rubber strap on deployant clasp, and all of a sudden I'm ok all day long without touching it (granted, it feels a little loose at times); not sure what the experience would be on the mesh bracelet though. I don't hate it visually, quite the contrary.
Don’t forget it’s thicker as well, incredible considering it’s got no date wheel! You even get a cheap non-lumed aluminium bezel for the extra money as well. Wow……..and that’s why I wear a 41mm Submariner guys, not even a contest is it?
@ yeah. Considering the JB 60th anniversary is 14.3mm and nobody really moans about that. Always try a watch on. If you like you like, if you don't, you don't. 🤷♂️
Regarding the bracelet: I have the 60anniversary JB with exactly that Milanese bracelet. The first time you wear it is indeed a little awkward but after a couple of weeks it is just amazing! Regarding the price… well, I agree it is too expensive but in all honesty: what do you expect? If you were Omega or just any other brand releasing a new model, would you really price it the same or lower than the existing model? Especially if you have a clear strategy to move into the upper segment of the market? Although the direction of travel bothers me, if you look at it from a Swatch group perspective, Omega will inevitably move closer to Rolex prices while Longines is slowly but surely taking the value for money spot, Omega once held.
I'm with the camp that thought we would get a more redesigned 300m. However, I get what they were doing here which is too give a cheaper alternative to the NTTD. There is no need for micro adjustment. If so why don't rubber straps have one. It's the same as rubber just in metal, fully adjustable. This version has all the character of the 93 bond with new movement. For those who just need a ceramic bezel they still offer one with the date.
I believe the Milanese strap if bought as an oem option from Omega is sold for $ 685 , yes that’s what another utuber bought one for to “ upgrade” his Seamaster . I have the Watchdives titanium “ homage “ with an identical steel strap with the same clasp and yes it’s bulky but I don’t mind it . The entire package was £125 . Be gentle with me pleas for not having an original , I do aspire to owning one .
Hey, Mark. I will politely disagree. Omega delivered exactly what we saw at the Olympics and drooled liked fools for. Granted, didn’t ask for a more expensive watch! Thanks for the great content! 😊
The watch is too thick, the bracelet is too rigid and the clasp is an abomination. The amount of fold over of the clasp is dreadful. IMO Omega would be better going away for a while and reworking the SMP. The case needs slimmed down, improved tapered bracelet and clasp. Jeeezo Omega! Come onnn you can do it!
@SomeoneSmarter absolutely no idea why they won't change it. Until they make those changes then the Seamaster will be living in the Submariners shadow. In fact it's more likely that other brands surpass the Seamaster!
@@derekbrettell8121 what other brands? Rolex is top of entry level, then omega is second. Nothing is going to change, that’s the way it is. Unless you think wearing a Tudor is comparable to an omega? And in that case you are deluded.
@@SomeoneSmarter Omega dosent listen to its customers, they will just keep milking the Seamaster. But we all have the choice to buy them or Not! Longines is a company that listens to its customers, I am looking at their new 39mm Green Legend Diver, that one looks nice.
@simon0044 I don't like Tudor watches because I view them as a homage brand. However, you are extremely naive to think that no-one bar Rolex could make a better dive watch than Omega 😂 especially the way Omega are going...they are going further in the wrong direction
Essentially the issue with this release is Omega is presenting less watch to the consumer and charging $600 more for it over the regular model. Omega should have made the watch 13.0mm thick like the NTTD and the same price as the regular model at $5,900 or at least only $100 more like the new white dial Speedy is to the Sapphire sandwich. For $600 more they should have maybe upgraded the movement, kept the ceramic bezel, DECREASED NOT increased the thickness (as they have proven possible through the NTTD), and/or have properly upgraded the existing Seamaster 300 bracelet in some way like adding a micro-adjust system or tapering the bracelet more like the Speedmaster Pro. The Milanese bracelet is premium, but is still simpler and less-engineered and durable contrasted with the past Seamaster 300 bracelet. The Milanese bracelet and aluminum bezel is a cost reduction measure to increase Omega’s overall profit margins for the black dialed watch. The grade 5 titanium bezel is more expensive/premium, but the rest of the watch being stainless steel negates any of the lightness and hardness benefits of the titanium. The new watch is like Rolex releasing the Tudor Black Bay 41 with the Rolex 3230 movement to be a one-for-one alternative to the date Submariner but then also charging $600 more for the Black Bay 41.
My only problem is the use of aluminum and titanium which is cheaper than ceramic but asking for a higher price. If they kept the price the same as the regular sea master then it’s be a banger watch
I think Omega increased the price less than they would normally have because they are giving less. What about that ? I like my NTTD on the Milanese bracelet as well as the NATO. It’s a great watch. Now I feel that Omega should also offer their customers the option to configure their watch so that people would be able to select case, bezel, bezel insert, dial, hands, calibre, crown, he valve, crystal, packaging, etc… from a selection for each model of the range. This would be at a premium price of course.
I think Omega are trying to make less watches but more profitable margin. No longer going for volume. That's fine but the value proposition is no longer attractive.
Is Omega selling less ? 🤔🧐 Now that you have mentioned it I wonder. How Omega retail prices increases benchmark with the rest of the industry for products of comparable price ranges ? Did they increase more or less than the competition ? I feel that watches have become increasingly more expensive throughout a fairly short time…
@RocketDog73 I agree it looks miles better on the rubber. Perhaps they should have released it on the rubber only, at the lower price and we might have accepted it!
"New" and Seamaster don't go together. It's just another Seamaster, just a tweak on something they've done for decades. I simply don't understand how these brands are still going when they've reduced innovation to zero.
Why innovate when the best products are those which stayed essentially the same and where tweaked and carefully enhanced over time. Like the 911, submariner or chucks.
I can deal with the price, more so with the 007 model, I would like to have saw a mat ceramic bezel on the model. As an Omega fan buy the Speedmaster Pro and if you still want a Seamaster buy it later down the line. The Planet Ocean needs an update more than the 300m, what Omega guys really want to see is a mil spec 300 reissue!
I agree with some of this. It is disappointing and a missed opportunity but it’s not rubbish. Omega are offering a Seamaster with subtle differences to the current date version. I agree that offering less and charging more is crazy (or genius) but by giving us only minor changes, I don’t think it’s enough to tempt me to buy one. I disagree about the mesh bracelet. I have one on my SMP300 and I find it stylish and comfortable. Never had a problem catching the clasp on anything. I was hoping for 40mm. If they did that with no helium escape valve and sword hands on a choice of bracelets (this new one can also be bought on rubber btw), the Watch community would go nuts imo and the difference would be enough for me to add another. Disappointing Omega.
Thanks for taking the time to share your opinion. I think it is a watch that works better on the rubber strap, than it does on the mesh. Thinner, smaller, that's what it really needs too
Don’t know what people expect. Omega trickled down popular features of the most popular and well selling models to the core line. Brilliant move and brilliant watch. Prices are trending up, it is what it is. Buy grey in a years time.
Agreed on all counts. My SMP set is the set of 4 sword hand neovintage divers : 2254, 2255, 2231 and 2232. All bought preowned for a total of 8K. Plus my real vintage Omega divers. The modern SMP iterations are a no go. HEV and hands need to be changed pronto.
Omega keep blowing it with their releases. WHY did they not take this opportunity to make it 40-41mm, make the watch thinner, remove or reduce the size of the ridiculous wart sized helium escape valve and make a decent, comfortable bracelet in the iconic 300m style? Also, 55 hours and not even 28,800 smooth sweep?? No date either, which whether you like the aesthetics or not, us lets face it a simpler movement and a downgrade. Unbelievable given that literally every other watch manufacturer is offering 70 hours plus...
Listen, I really don't think CEO of Patek meant it in a derogative way, He simply said people who are into Patek will like it and those who are into the brand Ethos. He never mentioned Patek can not be afforded by others or anything about money. Most people who own a MB&F or Urwek likely do not want to get into Patek so technically his statement is true that they will never own a Patek. It's about design association, nothing about societal class or affordability. I think the internet is taking it the wrong way.
I agree with you. I do think it's been taken slightly out of context, however the guy has a track record and let's be honest, it's just a bit of fun on both sides. I've just made a very tongue-in-cheek video about this including my on the wrist experience with the Cubitus range. I'll drop that video midweek.
In fairness to Omega I think they tried to give us what many asked for. So many people criticised the No Time to Die for the fake patina and requested a monotone white on black version so they’ve given us that (probably as a reaction to Tudor’s success with their monotone watch!) in stainless steel so it’s a much cheaper watch. However, as you say, it should be a few hundred cheaper than the standard model, the pricing makes so sense. Moot point for me as I think the watch is too big and I’d never buy one anyway. PS there is another change, the watch has a domed sapphire like the new FOIS but it makes the watch even thicker. Lunacy!
The thing with the Seamaster is that traditionally it has never had heavily domed sapphire. It has always been a pretty, thin, well built, straight talking divers watch on a substantial non tapering bracelet. So the domed glass and thickness of the watch, on a generic mesh bracelet mean it's no longer being true to it's heritage and what made it so popular in the first place.
@ true, good point. Omega are all over the place, their CEO needs sacking tbh. Unless of course they are very profitable because they can ride on their reputation and brand name with products and a marketing strategy that are sub-optimal. It beggars belief, Rolex board of directors must find it very amusing to watch own goal after own goal.
I tryed the new seamaster in Germany last week and I thought I would love it more but no, I have the Seamaster GMT 2538.20.00 The Great White and I prefer 1000 times mine over the new one
How about a 40 or 41mm with a reworked "Bond " bracelet with a normal size clasp instead of the current brick clasp that is way too large for most wrists.
I hate that everyone on yt has to defend their opinions and tastes before every video because of mardy plebs. I don't agree with your personal tastes but guess what.....? that's the reason I pressed the thumbnail. I need to hear other views even if they might make me cry. Actually, I agree with you about the shite bracelet. Sub earned nice vid👍
Thank you very much for the feedback. A lot of content creators are scared to say anything contentious about watches, but I'm not looking for sponsorship, promotion, product placement opportunities. It gives me freedom to just log my experiences and thoughts as I see them.
It's very confusing. The video shows a green lumed bezel, and the description says the bezel is white lumed supernova. But then other shots of it low light show no lume.
This is just Omega squeezing out as much revenue they can from the old case movements and parts of the SMP300 . The real next gen SMP300 update is coming in the 3rd or 4th quarter of 2025 . There will be two sizes( standard size and a medium) this confirmed from one or two sources, a bracelet overhaul is also coming from what I’ve heard but not confirmed.
I was actually thinking this same thing, that this is just a cash grab before they release the new model. However I think that is wishful thinking, and the cash grabbing will continue with special editions thrown in for good measure!
I agree with all your points except the aluminium insert. 90% of people hate scratches, and that "character " scratches is just a consolation excuse to make you feel a little better. Also, how can a no date be thicker than the one with a date? Why not also put the easy release to change straps easily (which they do have the technology ) and give both steel and rubber if they raised the prices.
A watch isn't going to stay brand new forever. You guys are such babies about condition. Alot like a watch that shows a life well lived. Stop being soo anal about condition. OMG I SEE A HAIRLINE SCRATCH let me go have the watch polished 😅I swear that's majority of you collectors now
@lonewolfemcquade8133 true , i use and bang up my watches but why charge more for a watch with cheaper materials when the reg. 300 which cost less has better bezel insert and dial material is one major point. Ceramic being less scratch resistant than aluminium is just a trait of the better material.
@@macoyupadoodle I guess that they produce less of the aluminium bezel and dial models than ceramic. Less qtys mean more expensive. Jus an assumption …
New Planet Ocean with integrated hrv and no date...that stupid tiny date reminds me of Timex Snoopy models...I don't think that's what Omega were after...I could be wrong...they do love Snoopy after all. And roll out the Spyrite to all models. And bring out a new Railmaster in 42 mm for chunky wrist guys like me.
They left out the ceramic bezel insert as well.... Went to an aluminum instead. For sure cheaper to manufacture compared to the ceramic and for a bigger profit 😂😂😂
Im not going to say its rubbish as Im sure someone out there appreciates this design but.... hes not wrong about the pricing. What makes this version more expensive? No date complication and on the fly micro adjust.
Agree completely-can’t stand milanese bracelets and never liked skeleton hands. I don’t reckon either have ever been actually popular. Make it thinner, slightly smaller and (gasp!) ditch the helium escape valve. Add sword hands and there’s a watch! Btw, Brenny is even more incensed 🤬
K but a least it looks way way better. Still too big and an uncomfortably awkward watch. If the bracelet is as bad as you say it is then that needs to be refined and the size needs to come down a mm in every dimension at least. But aesthetically this is the best iteration of the SMP yet really
Agree with many points but - crystal is the new heavily domed version which is way better and I prefer no date and aluminium bezel and dial material better than standard bezel. Don’t like the bracelet on this or on the standard seamaster either - so would only buy on rubber. I think as a release it’s ok - good bits and bad bits - not sure it deserves all the stick it’s getting. Rolex as as bad - I’d much prefer mili sub hands but they will never do it.
One can only hope Santa leaves the designers at Omega flashlights or spectacles in their stockings, then maybe they’ll stop designing their watches in the dark.
I like the new model. No accounting for taste I guess. Of course I even like admittedly irrelevant to virtually all users helium release valve. It’s distinctive.
😳🤯 Errr, I am sorry but I dont get it… Why would Oméga need to apologise ?! What bad or insult have they done to the watch community ? Please substantiate.
@Thenameonthegraveisarchstanton oh right. Well I say a lot of things very tongue-in-cheek. I mean honestly this whole hobby is just a pathetic little distraction from the really important things in life. Just having some fun 😁
I think this new watch is less cheesy, but it's still got its fair share of cheesiness. It's a relic of the '90s-and let’s be honest, the '90s were never really cool.
@@TheRandomWatchDude I was in a similar situation-I ended up receiving one of those plastic-cased TAG Heuer Formula 1 quartz models that my girlfriend, now my wife, gave me. :)
Everyone says the same thing about the seamaster 🤦🏻♂️ back to sword hands back to 41mm back to 12mm thick back to the small waves tapper the bracelet bin the dive extension and slim the clasp and shrink or remove the value. Omega could do with working out how to do a dive bezel that doesn’t feel like a child’s toy too🤦🏻♂️ the movement is out of date too and where is the Spirate tech that was developed years ago 🤦🏻♂️ 70 hours power reserve minimum is the new standard. Omega has lost the plot. I had hair when this out of date watch came out 🤦🏻♂️
100%! I always focus on the sword hands and thinner case for my priority changes, but the 70 hour power reserve offered by the likes of Rolex is so handy. My Seamaster is always out of juice when I pick it up on Monday morning.
This is not a new watch all it is, is a release of an upgraded looking sea master with a new price. I’m sure the date will come out with a date and the new wave dial and be $500 more than this watch. Same case, same movement equals refresh. Not a new watch gen.
Bracelet was already bad. Most don’t prefer it. Love the new domed crystal and hardened aluminum, flat colored bezel relative to the shiny ceramic
OMEGA - PLEASE re release the classic 2254.50 sword hand model with *slim* case, tapered speedy bracelet but adding micro-adjust. That would be the perfect watch. Please do it!
Just buy a 2254.50 and put a Speedy bracelet on it.
Just watched this vid and was about to comment and saw you had already read my mind and commented what i was going to put, good job.
A re-release would be great!
I’ve got the Omega OEM Milanese on my Green Seamaster 300m.
I’ve worn it for 18 months now and it’s incredibly comfortable and well fitting. I’ve never caught it on anything, once either. It’s a premium Milanese bracelet that’s about as far from being a junky, generic and crappy bracelet as you can get.
If you go to a decent Omega store they’ll also tell you it comes in 3 different sizes too, which really helps with finding a the perfect fit.
I really love this bracelet. Added one to my 50th anniversary 300m GMT and it's awesome now. I think Omega needs to make a point of explaining the different sizes of the mesh better. The first time I tried on the NTTD version I didn't like it but once I got the right size it fit like a dream.
Only 800 bucks to revamp my chrome seamaster. Dont need to buy any new cash grabs.
Is it different to the Ploprof strap coz thats a great one?
@@EddyTeetree very different. The pro plof is a shark mesh while the 300m is a Milanese.
@@miabeatz80 Ah thanx. always liked the look of the plof one. It looks dependable. Wonder if Omega would supply one with a 300 special order?
The Milanese bracelet is what makes this watch so beautiful. I have the Milanese bracelet and you can choose the size so it doesn’t overhang
Beautiful but still bulky and uncomfortable even in the right size
Another omega fan here. Sold all my collection and kept my Omega Seamaster Diver 300. I love the helium escape valve and I’d want it kept. Otherwise, I’m still waiting for a thinner, tapered bracelet, and at least 40mm in size. Missed opportunity.
Buy a Submariner bud. It's basically everything you've just said you're waiting on. You won't look back
I prefer a date wheel on my watches, and if it had one I would of purchased one. The watch you described would be the perfect seamaster.
I own two Planet Oceans and love those watches. I am not a fan of the Omega wave dial or the skeleton hands, and I will never buy one as a result. Thanks for an honest review, I am subscribing to your channel as a result.
@tobya2020 thank you! I'm ok with the skeleton hands but my favorite are the Planet Ocean hands! They are so good!
I have the omega seamaster 300 the changes I would like to see is sword hands, remove helium valve and tapered bracelet with less weight
@@fernandoleon9678 BINGO! That would be a killer watch!
Does that not make it a different watch? Don't get me wrong, that sounds good, but make it a different model and keep the traditional Diver 300 and it's heritage.
IMO that makes it look like a submariner with sword hands not an original design. It's like asking to remove the magnifying glass from a sub. No more character.
This video and Brendan Boswell’s video about Omega dumping stock on to gray market dealers at lower discounts than to customers through ADs have changed my mind on OMEGA. I was very excited for this new no date SMP300. All it needed was the sword hands to be 100% perfect. You’re bringing very valid points I did not think about.
This is the value of independent people doing TH-cam videos on things they truly care about instead of trying to sell you something.
@MrEliwankenobi I still think Omega makes fantastic watches. The Globemaster for example, and the Aqua Terra are superb watches. However the SMP300 is their flagship model and it needs to be perfect.
Really become a fan of the channel. Totally unpretentious and honest. Refreshing to see a genuine watch enthusiast share his thoughts and opinions. Love the Peter Blake Omega, I have the 2255.80 Electric Blue and love it. Omega made their best watches in the 2000’s.
Thank you for the feedback. It's fun to make videos of just general watch stuff, and I'm glad some people enjoy that! And yes I agree that the late 90s through the 2000s era Omegas are the best!
I just bought the Monochrome titanium gray with the gray rubber foldover clasp strap. I like it. I also have the Sapphire Sandwich Moonwatch, so I might see if that tapered bracelet fits the seamaster.
It's unbelievable that you have the sapphire sandwich, I do as well, and it's also unbelievable that you have the grey over grey Sea master as that's my next watch purchase. I am waiting for the FOIS new model which is in the post. Can I ask how you are getting on with the rubber strap? This is the only thing that I'm concerned about as I don't have any rubber straps in my collection
@@G1CHO I really like the rubber deployant. The high contact points on the band are rubber so the metal deployant doesn't get scratched while Im wearing it. All my cars are grey, alot of clothes too, so it goes with all my stuff :)
These are super good looking, no date, purist, classy, but still uniqe recognizable SM300... these are awesome
It's a fabulous concept! I tried one on this weekend and my concerns were all validated. I will be making a video on it soon
Love the honest review man, thanks!
You're welcome, thanks!
The analysis is perfect 👍
Thank you!
You make some good points Mark. In my opinion, I think many of the high-end Swiss watch makers seem to have a level of arrogance as a result of their perception of exclusivity that dominates their design efforts over market demands that are of little concern to them.
@swkohnle08 I agree, they don't really care for market feedback. If they adopted some of the simple changes we all want they would sell Seamasters like hot cakes!
Dead on. Sword hands and small valve. I like the dial they have on it and the round lume plots. I’d put a date wheel at 3, aluminum bezel and speed master bracelet
Yep that would be perfection
Massive anticlimax. I had great expectations for new Seamaster range. Sword hands, thinner and hidden helium escape valve and I would be on the waiting list.
I just bought the new Seamaster 300 no date on a rubber strap. I thought the milanese bracelet looked cool but I tried it on and I didn't really get on with it. I really like the rubber so went with that. I was on the verge of buying the white ceramic seamaster and I'm glad I waited for the black no date. I find the no date gives a no nonsense look to the watch and while I don't have anything against dates on watches I've never actually thought I don't know what the date is. Ever. On the helium escape valve I find that its a signature of the watch and it doesn't detract from the look at all. I mean a Porsche 911 has basically looked the same for the last 60 years. As a design it is flawed but it is what makes the car what it is. As RWD says it all about personal preferences. I bought an Explorerr II as my tool watch and I loved it but I just couldn't get on with it somehow. This is my new beater, to be worn everyday with everything. I would urge you all to go to your AD and try it on and be guided by how it makes you feel. I'm super happy with my choice. Its £300 more than the black ceramic 300m on rubber but it's a 'new' watch with a deployment clasp rather than pin and buckle. Also everything is going up in price and in real terms I don't see it as paying a premium for less I'm paying for what I want. Love the channel btw.
Congratulations on buying the Seamaster. It's a terrific watch, and my gripes with it are all because of personal preferences, which aren't universally shared and your post highlights that! I tried the Bond 60th on that mesh bracelet and it was horrible. Some people say you need to get the right size bracelet but I think that's just making the best of a bad bracelet. The rubber strap is the way to go on this model, and maybe a nice Omega NATO too!!
Thanks Mark. I'll just stick my 2254.50 Peter Blake on a strapcode tapered Milanese bracelet (which has a much slimmer clasp) and Bob's your uncle, the watch that Omega should have released, PLUS I have saved myself a chunk of money! 😉
Hey Mark, im confident Omega will take your view points very seriously. Hang in there.
@DavidMaddern I'm definitely not giving up on Omega and still think that one day in my lifetime they will release the perfect re-edition of the 2254.50. It could have been this watch but they are obviously committed to a different path right now
Stay strong Mark, different paths are common from what I'm seeing
No they won't lol Omega does not listen that much is obvious
That helium escape crown is still a monstrosity. When Omega reduces or eliminates that, I’ll consider the Seamaster again.
@@aaronmunro5818 agreed. It's completely unnecessary on the SMP 300
Totally agree with most of your points. Less watch for more money is effectively what they have done. I don’t like the omega mesh either, terrible fit and too thick. Seamasters look great on a mesh so I’ve bought non omega ones for both of mine. I’m not sure they will ever go back to the sword hands though. I know some people prefer an aluminium bezel for various reasons but I’m not one of them so to me they have provided an inferior quality bezel for more money. A lot of people would like it smaller as well. With the domed sapphire crystal this watch is 13.8mm in height so the case on its own is slimmer than the standard version. I wish they had made a flat sapphire crystal then we might have got an overall watch height of 12.8 instead, which a lot of people have been asking for as well.
I saw it live. It's a fantastic watch. Very beautiful.
I'm certain it's a beautiful looking watch
The watch is beautiful and the only thing Omega really needs to do is improve the teeth on the bezel for better grip. That bezel has never really been very easy to turn. That is the only complaint. It is a work of art. I also love the no date option. Clean. And I really don't know anyone who really pays much attention to the date on a watch.
Hey Mark couldn't agree more. I do like the dial, but thats it. I'm in the market for a seamaster currently and this and the new ones I looked at in an AD are making me head for the neo-vintage models like the 2254 and the blue dialed one in titanium.
@tioaboa thanks and yes I think the neo vintage SMs are the sweet spot and much easier to get serviced too. The glossy dialled ceramic version, before it went fully in-house is a lovely transitional model too. Worth looking at those. They ran up until 2018.
@ cheers Mark, I’ll have a seen those ones. The black glossy dial with the heavily AR coated glass looks amazing. Cheers Ian
Nice rant mate. Omega fan here, but by gees talk about flogging a dead horse. I truly believe they’ve lost their design team to some micro brand. I’m afraid the Swiss luxury watch business model is employed holistically throughout and that being they make a larger profit from raising prices and selling fewer “cheaper “ models. Unfortunately us as consumers and enthusiasts are the biggest losers
Thank you sir, and I agree with you wholeheartedly. Omega has lost its edge, and even before this with their gimmicky Speedmasters and the awful new micro adjust on the Aqua Terra bracelet. Basic fundamental design laziness.
I got the SMP on the bracelet and was using almost the full range of microadjust (9 mm) every day. Then I switched to the rubber strap on deployant clasp, and all of a sudden I'm ok all day long without touching it (granted, it feels a little loose at times); not sure what the experience would be on the mesh bracelet though. I don't hate it visually, quite the contrary.
I will buy it second hand…😅
Put it on a retired secret agent…. You had me there!! 😂
Smart!
@ I have a 14060m 4 line. TBH, I like this Seamaster with aluminium bezel and without date. It matches with my 14060m. But the price is bonkers..
I like sword hands. Skeleton hands is not my thing.
OG wave dial w/sword hands would be great. I would buy it.
Don’t forget it’s thicker as well, incredible considering it’s got no date wheel! You even get a cheap non-lumed aluminium bezel for the extra money as well. Wow……..and that’s why I wear a 41mm Submariner guys, not even a contest is it?
How thick is it?
13.8 compared to 13.6 due to a domed sapphire crystal.
Hugh difference 😂
@ yeah. Considering the JB 60th anniversary is 14.3mm and nobody really moans about that. Always try a watch on. If you like you like, if you don't, you don't. 🤷♂️
Regarding the bracelet: I have the 60anniversary JB with exactly that Milanese bracelet. The first time you wear it is indeed a little awkward but after a couple of weeks it is just amazing!
Regarding the price… well, I agree it is too expensive but in all honesty: what do you expect? If you were Omega or just any other brand releasing a new model, would you really price it the same or lower than the existing model? Especially if you have a clear strategy to move into the upper segment of the market? Although the direction of travel bothers me, if you look at it from a Swatch group perspective, Omega will inevitably move closer to Rolex prices while Longines is slowly but surely taking the value for money spot, Omega once held.
Its a NTTD/60th Anniversary alternative for much less money. The Bond watches are $8000-10000 while the new black version is $6500.
I'm with the camp that thought we would get a more redesigned 300m. However, I get what they were doing here which is too give a cheaper alternative to the NTTD. There is no need for micro adjustment. If so why don't rubber straps have one. It's the same as rubber just in metal, fully adjustable. This version has all the character of the 93 bond with new movement. For those who just need a ceramic bezel they still offer one with the date.
I love the grey, feel a 40mm would of been a bigger hit tho. Lucky for me i have 7.7 inch wrists tho
I believe the Milanese strap if bought as an oem option from Omega is sold for $ 685 , yes that’s what another utuber bought one for to “ upgrade” his Seamaster . I have the Watchdives titanium “ homage “ with an identical steel strap with the same clasp and yes it’s bulky but I don’t mind it . The entire package was £125 . Be gentle with me pleas for not having an original , I do aspire to owning one .
Taper bracelet, helium escape valveless option and that’s it.
Hey, Mark. I will politely disagree. Omega delivered exactly what we saw at the Olympics and drooled liked fools for. Granted, didn’t ask for a more expensive watch! Thanks for the great content! 😊
@matthewjohnson647 totally it's exactly what we saw on his wrist. We wished it was smaller, thinner and came on a better bracelet but....
The watch is too thick, the bracelet is too rigid and the clasp is an abomination. The amount of fold over of the clasp is dreadful. IMO Omega would be better going away for a while and reworking the SMP. The case needs slimmed down, improved tapered bracelet and clasp. Jeeezo Omega! Come onnn you can do it!
YES! I have seen lots of people saying this across lots of forums and content creators. Its so blimmin obvious. Why aren't they doing it?
@SomeoneSmarter absolutely no idea why they won't change it. Until they make those changes then the Seamaster will be living in the Submariners shadow. In fact it's more likely that other brands surpass the Seamaster!
@@derekbrettell8121 what other brands? Rolex is top of entry level, then omega is second.
Nothing is going to change, that’s the way it is.
Unless you think wearing a Tudor is comparable to an omega? And in that case you are deluded.
@@SomeoneSmarter Omega dosent listen to its customers, they will just keep milking the Seamaster. But we all have the choice to buy them or Not! Longines is a company that listens to its customers, I am looking at their new 39mm Green Legend Diver, that one looks nice.
@simon0044 I don't like Tudor watches because I view them as a homage brand. However, you are extremely naive to think that no-one bar Rolex could make a better dive watch than Omega 😂 especially the way Omega are going...they are going further in the wrong direction
Essentially the issue with this release is Omega is presenting less watch to the consumer and charging $600 more for it over the regular model. Omega should have made the watch 13.0mm thick like the NTTD and the same price as the regular model at $5,900 or at least only $100 more like the new white dial Speedy is to the Sapphire sandwich. For $600 more they should have maybe upgraded the movement, kept the ceramic bezel, DECREASED NOT increased the thickness (as they have proven possible through the NTTD), and/or have properly upgraded the existing Seamaster 300 bracelet in some way like adding a micro-adjust system or tapering the bracelet more like the Speedmaster Pro. The Milanese bracelet is premium, but is still simpler and less-engineered and durable contrasted with the past Seamaster 300 bracelet. The Milanese bracelet and aluminum bezel is a cost reduction measure to increase Omega’s overall profit margins for the black dialed watch. The grade 5 titanium bezel is more expensive/premium, but the rest of the watch being stainless steel negates any of the lightness and hardness benefits of the titanium. The new watch is like Rolex releasing the Tudor Black Bay 41 with the Rolex 3230 movement to be a one-for-one alternative to the date Submariner but then also charging $600 more for the Black Bay 41.
Summed up perfectly. Thank you 😊
@ Appreciate your honest review 😁👍
My only problem is the use of aluminum and titanium which is cheaper than ceramic but asking for a higher price. If they kept the price the same as the regular sea master then it’s be a banger watch
I think Omega increased the price less than they would normally have because they are giving less. What about that ?
I like my NTTD on the Milanese bracelet as well as the NATO. It’s a great watch. Now I feel that Omega should also offer their customers the option to configure their watch so that people would be able to select case, bezel, bezel insert, dial, hands, calibre, crown, he valve, crystal, packaging, etc… from a selection for each model of the range. This would be at a premium price of course.
I think Omega are trying to make less watches but more profitable margin. No longer going for volume. That's fine but the value proposition is no longer attractive.
Is Omega selling less ? 🤔🧐 Now that you have mentioned it I wonder. How Omega retail prices increases benchmark with the rest of the industry for products of comparable price ranges ? Did they increase more or less than the competition ?
I feel that watches have become increasingly more expensive throughout a fairly short time…
Hate the mesh bracelet but love its clean submariner look with it on the rubber.
@RocketDog73 I agree it looks miles better on the rubber. Perhaps they should have released it on the rubber only, at the lower price and we might have accepted it!
Spot on, I have a couple, including the 60th bond. Agree mesh bracelet crap. I wear it on rubber and nato 🔥
I’ve tried this watch on I love it
How about just make it smaller? Why do they insist on these giant watches? Make it 38mm.
"New" and Seamaster don't go together. It's just another Seamaster, just a tweak on something they've done for decades. I simply don't understand how these brands are still going when they've reduced innovation to zero.
Why innovate when the best products are those which stayed essentially the same and where tweaked and carefully enhanced over time. Like the 911, submariner or chucks.
@@cunawarit yeah the 1mm size increase submariner was innovation at its finest 😂
@@simon0044 minds around the world we're blown, it's all we talked about for years.
I can deal with the price, more so with the 007 model, I would like to have saw a mat ceramic bezel on the model. As an Omega fan buy the Speedmaster Pro and if you still want a Seamaster buy it later down the line. The Planet Ocean needs an update more than the 300m, what Omega guys really want to see is a mil spec 300 reissue!
They should make a quick release and proper clasp mesh bracelet! That would be the gold standard.
I agree with some of this. It is disappointing and a missed opportunity but it’s not rubbish. Omega are offering a Seamaster with subtle differences to the current date version. I agree that offering less and charging more is crazy (or genius) but by giving us only minor changes, I don’t think it’s enough to tempt me to buy one. I disagree about the mesh bracelet. I have one on my SMP300 and I find it stylish and comfortable. Never had a problem catching the clasp on anything.
I was hoping for 40mm. If they did that with no helium escape valve and sword hands on a choice of bracelets (this new one can also be bought on rubber btw), the Watch community would go nuts imo and the difference would be enough for me to add another.
Disappointing Omega.
Thanks for taking the time to share your opinion. I think it is a watch that works better on the rubber strap, than it does on the mesh. Thinner, smaller, that's what it really needs too
Don’t know what people expect. Omega trickled down popular features of the most popular and well selling models to the core line. Brilliant move and brilliant watch. Prices are trending up, it is what it is. Buy grey in a years time.
Just like Grand Seiko, Omega isn't listening to the market and the community
They will never listen to the market and the community, Swatch Group is one of the greediest companies, they only care about money
Agreed on all counts. My SMP set is the set of 4 sword hand neovintage divers : 2254, 2255, 2231 and 2232. All bought preowned for a total of 8K. Plus my real vintage Omega divers. The modern SMP iterations are a no go. HEV and hands need to be changed pronto.
I think they are cool watches. The only issue is the price. They are presumably cheaper to produce.
Omega keep blowing it with their releases. WHY did they not take this opportunity to make it 40-41mm, make the watch thinner, remove or reduce the size of the ridiculous wart sized helium escape valve and make a decent, comfortable bracelet in the iconic 300m style? Also, 55 hours and not even 28,800 smooth sweep?? No date either, which whether you like the aesthetics or not, us lets face it a simpler movement and a downgrade. Unbelievable given that literally every other watch manufacturer is offering 70 hours plus...
You get less you're charged more...its Panerai all over again 😂
A 40mm size, thinner and remove the helium to test the market for that move…. Sorted
And I would add a reworked 9link bracelet with a normal sized clasp with micro-adjustments .
Should’ve been a sword hand GMT on the mesh at least, kept at 42mm, then I would’ve considered.
I don’t recall this uproar when Rolex released their ‘new’ submariners with a 1mm size increase 😂
That’s because it was an entirely new watch and improved in just about every way.
I hear you, but Rolex massively upgraded the bracelet and movement when they tinkered with the dimensions
Omega... Reduce these SMP 300m dimensions to 41mm, 12.5 mm thin and use the same bracelet of that new white Speedy. Thanks.
This guy looks like an older Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. 😳🤔
Even worst, they choose to put an aluminum bezel on it. I’m a bit disappointed here.
Listen, I really don't think CEO of Patek meant it in a derogative way, He simply said people who are into Patek will like it and those who are into the brand Ethos. He never mentioned Patek can not be afforded by others or anything about money. Most people who own a MB&F or Urwek likely do not want to get into Patek so technically his statement is true that they will never own a Patek. It's about design association, nothing about societal class or affordability. I think the internet is taking it the wrong way.
I agree with you. I do think it's been taken slightly out of context, however the guy has a track record and let's be honest, it's just a bit of fun on both sides. I've just made a very tongue-in-cheek video about this including my on the wrist experience with the Cubitus range. I'll drop that video midweek.
Everything is getting cheaper yet more expensive, if you know what I mean.
@Doggieman1111 Yep I know what you mean. And us watch enthusiasts often find a reason to justify such large outlays
In fairness to Omega I think they tried to give us what many asked for. So many people criticised the No Time to Die for the fake patina and requested a monotone white on black version so they’ve given us that (probably as a reaction to Tudor’s success with their monotone watch!) in stainless steel so it’s a much cheaper watch. However, as you say, it should be a few hundred cheaper than the standard model, the pricing makes so sense. Moot point for me as I think the watch is too big and I’d never buy one anyway.
PS there is another change, the watch has a domed sapphire like the new FOIS but it makes the watch even thicker. Lunacy!
The thing with the Seamaster is that traditionally it has never had heavily domed sapphire. It has always been a pretty, thin, well built, straight talking divers watch on a substantial non tapering bracelet. So the domed glass and thickness of the watch, on a generic mesh bracelet mean it's no longer being true to it's heritage and what made it so popular in the first place.
@ true, good point. Omega are all over the place, their CEO needs sacking tbh. Unless of course they are very profitable because they can ride on their reputation and brand name with products and a marketing strategy that are sub-optimal. It beggars belief, Rolex board of directors must find it very amusing to watch own goal after own goal.
You are spot on, the He valve and hands were the only deal breakers for me with the Seamaster, but now it has a rubbish strap too 🙄
Reminds me of my seiko with the milanese bracelet) just the height of the watch is better on this
I tryed the new seamaster in Germany last week and I thought I would love it more but no, I have the Seamaster GMT 2538.20.00 The Great White and I prefer 1000 times mine
over the new one
The great white is a legendary Omega watch. Very hard to find a better alternative. Congratulations 🎊
I think they also need to discontinue previous models before releasing new ones
How about a 40 or 41mm with a reworked "Bond " bracelet with a normal size clasp instead of the current brick clasp that is way too large for most wrists.
I hate that everyone on yt has to defend their opinions and tastes before every video because of mardy plebs. I don't agree with your personal tastes but guess what.....? that's the reason I pressed the thumbnail. I need to hear other views even if they might make me cry. Actually, I agree with you about the shite bracelet. Sub earned nice vid👍
Thank you very much for the feedback. A lot of content creators are scared to say anything contentious about watches, but I'm not looking for sponsorship, promotion, product placement opportunities. It gives me freedom to just log my experiences and thoughts as I see them.
He’s not wrong about the bracelet. I got one for my Seamaster and the gaps between holes needs to be smaller. I cannot get a fit I like with mine 🤬
They should get rid of that helium valve thing, it is like a carbunkle on your wrist.
A steel wart!
Sword hands and oyster bracelet👍🏻
That's all they need to do and I would forgive them for the huge He valve and case thickness
Lumed bezel?
It's very confusing. The video shows a green lumed bezel, and the description says the bezel is white lumed supernova. But then other shots of it low light show no lume.
This is just Omega squeezing out as much revenue they can from the old case movements and parts of the SMP300 .
The real next gen SMP300 update is coming in the 3rd or 4th quarter of 2025 . There will be two sizes( standard size and a medium) this confirmed from one or two sources, a bracelet overhaul is also coming from what I’ve heard but not confirmed.
I was actually thinking this same thing, that this is just a cash grab before they release the new model. However I think that is wishful thinking, and the cash grabbing will continue with special editions thrown in for good measure!
Omega seamaster 300m 2531.80 - best watch!
Agreed the 2531.80 is the Seamaster at its best along with the 2254.50 for those who like it black!
I agree with all your points except the aluminium insert. 90% of people hate scratches, and that "character " scratches is just a consolation excuse to make you feel a little better. Also, how can a no date be thicker than the one with a date? Why not also put the easy release to change straps easily (which they do have the technology ) and give both steel and rubber if they raised the prices.
Are we talking about 0.2 mm? I would not even notice a difference of 0.5 mm
@milanperlic3837 Yes, it would be miniscule, but why thicker watch without the date (maybe crystal) ? At least keep the thickness the same ?
A watch isn't going to stay brand new forever. You guys are such babies about condition. Alot like a watch that shows a life well lived. Stop being soo anal about condition. OMG I SEE A HAIRLINE SCRATCH let me go have the watch polished 😅I swear that's majority of you collectors now
@lonewolfemcquade8133 true , i use and bang up my watches but why charge more for a watch with cheaper materials when the reg. 300 which cost less has better bezel insert and dial material is one major point. Ceramic being less scratch resistant than aluminium is just a trait of the better material.
@@macoyupadoodle I guess that they produce less of the aluminium bezel and dial models than ceramic. Less qtys mean more expensive. Jus an assumption …
These 2 new watches are BRILLIANT!
@heisenbergguy7772 good to see someone waving the flag in favour!
New Planet Ocean with integrated hrv and no date...that stupid tiny date reminds me of Timex Snoopy models...I don't think that's what Omega were after...I could be wrong...they do love Snoopy after all. And roll out the Spyrite to all models. And bring out a new Railmaster in 42 mm for chunky wrist guys like me.
They left out the ceramic bezel insert as well.... Went to an aluminum instead. For sure cheaper to manufacture compared to the ceramic and for a bigger profit 😂😂😂
@@joonkt3483 I quite like the move to aluminum as I like the matt appearance, but it should have been cheaper.
@TheRandomWatchDude Aluminum is nice and has its own benefits as well but like you said, shud have been cheaper.
Im not going to say its rubbish as Im sure someone out there appreciates this design but.... hes not wrong about the pricing. What makes this version more expensive? No date complication and on the fly micro adjust.
Love mine ❤
Agree with all your points. Omega know that it will sell though, but yes, why not do better? Arrogance?
@mindfulawareness1 arrogance! They think they know better and Customer feedback is the least of their interests.
Agree completely-can’t stand milanese bracelets and never liked skeleton hands.
I don’t reckon either have ever been actually popular.
Make it thinner, slightly smaller and (gasp!) ditch the helium escape valve.
Add sword hands and there’s a watch!
Btw, Brenny is even more incensed 🤬
@mattsa haha yeh I saw Brendan's take on it. He and I should do a livestream on it!!
Plenty of other brands out there, and most of them aren’t available at Costco.
Modern Swiss watches are grossly overpriced, go back to the tough no nonsense divers of the 80s and 90s. Nothing flashy just tools
There are literally dozens of affordable Swiss toolwatches, Certina making a real nice one for instance. There is more than Omega and Rolex alone.
K but a least it looks way way better. Still too big and an uncomfortably awkward watch. If the bracelet is as bad as you say it is then that needs to be refined and the size needs to come down a mm in every dimension at least. But aesthetically this is the best iteration of the SMP yet really
Agree with many points but - crystal is the new heavily domed version which is way better and I prefer no date and aluminium bezel and dial material better than standard bezel. Don’t like the bracelet on this or on the standard seamaster either - so would only buy on rubber. I think as a release it’s ok - good bits and bad bits - not sure it deserves all the stick it’s getting. Rolex as as bad - I’d much prefer mili sub hands but they will never do it.
One can only hope Santa leaves the designers at Omega flashlights or spectacles in their stockings, then maybe they’ll stop designing their watches in the dark.
I like the new model. No accounting for taste I guess. Of course I even like admittedly irrelevant to virtually all users helium release valve. It’s distinctive.
I don't mind the helium valve on the older models as it's much more subtle.
Should have been a reissue of the peter blake model
@ShashankD137 Exactly! How much more easy can it get than to rehash the Peter Blake and it will sell like hot cakes 🎂
You Look Like Richard Gere - sign up for James Bond line up as an actor - movie title WTF OMEGA?
Good plan, and I can pronounce Omeeeega properly too!
😂😂😂😂
Omega lost the plot after the first gen planet oceans, thank god I have one, they might as well destroy these while they’re at it😢
I feel bad for Craig....
It's all his fault! He probably told them it was a great watch, and he doesn't like sword hands!
@TheRandomWatchDude Or he's being lured into taking a part in an unannounced sequel to the 'Pirates of the Caribbean '. 😅
Also! 2254.50 still king SMP!
@@MrEliwankenobi yes it is!!!!
😳🤯 Errr, I am sorry but I dont get it… Why would Oméga need to apologise ?! What bad or insult have they done to the watch community ?
Please substantiate.
Not sure who this question is aimed at, as I haven't demanded an apology from Omega!
You didn’t demand it but said maybe they do need to at the end
@Thenameonthegraveisarchstanton oh right. Well I say a lot of things very tongue-in-cheek. I mean honestly this whole hobby is just a pathetic little distraction from the really important things in life. Just having some fun 😁
I think this new watch is less cheesy, but it's still got its fair share of cheesiness. It's a relic of the '90s-and let’s be honest, the '90s were never really cool.
@galaga8834 I grew up in the 90s with centre parting, listening to Oasis and aspired to wear a TAG but couldn't afford it!
@@TheRandomWatchDude I was in a similar situation-I ended up receiving one of those plastic-cased TAG Heuer Formula 1 quartz models that my girlfriend, now my wife, gave me. :)
@galaga8834 ahh happy memories 💖
The 90s were awesome id go back in a second. If any era is lame? It's today
Everyone says the same thing about the seamaster 🤦🏻♂️ back to sword hands back to 41mm back to 12mm thick back to the small waves tapper the bracelet bin the dive extension and slim the clasp and shrink or remove the value. Omega could do with working out how to do a dive bezel that doesn’t feel like a child’s toy too🤦🏻♂️ the movement is out of date too and where is the Spirate tech that was developed years ago 🤦🏻♂️ 70 hours power reserve minimum is the new standard. Omega has lost the plot. I had hair when this out of date watch came out 🤦🏻♂️
100%! I always focus on the sword hands and thinner case for my priority changes, but the 70 hour power reserve offered by the likes of Rolex is so handy. My Seamaster is always out of juice when I pick it up on Monday morning.
This is not a new watch all it is, is a release of an upgraded looking sea master with a new price. I’m sure the date will come out with a date and the new wave dial and be $500 more than this watch. Same case, same movement equals refresh. Not a new watch gen.
Fully agree