After days of research, I just ordered this cockpit with the monitor mount and aluminum table top. Your review of this and other rigs was extremely helpful in finding what I want. Thank you so much and keep up the excellent content!
So I've had the GT Omega ART with the RS9 seat - since... November 2021, and have been using it with a G27, and it's been perfect for that wheelbase. I just received the CSL DD today and here's a short summary of things I'm running into. Might be useful for if anyone has the same idea. The CSL DD base doesn't have an angle to it, and the ART's wheel plate doesn't angle enough. I plan to use some braces to lift things up a tiny bit for some extra angle. The wheel base itself is quite high, so you might want to lower the plate. If you had to put it in a low position already, it might be an issue. The CSL DD does fit perfectly in the tray when flipped upside down, but it's not ideal and the edge needs to get bent or cut away to plug in the pedals and shifters. The shaft is also quite long and brings the wheel rather close to you. Sliding the wheel deck down helps a bit but also puts it rather low. I'm turning around the tray and drilling an extra set of holes so the base can sit much further back. Also, the pedals (CSL Pedals) don't quite line up. The base lines up but the holes in the pedals - there's no horizontal slot, so you might need to drill there too. My LC brake comes later so I'm postponing that until I get the final layout. Finally, not CSL DD related - the monitor mount sits a bit far away. I'm using it with a 34" ultrawide and had to extend it with some contraption to bring it some 12cm closer to me, for more FOV. So in short - it's not a quick swap if you plan to use a DD base, and you'll need to adjust a bunch of things. To end things on a positive note, it handles the CSL DD with boost kit (8Nm) fine without further strenghtening! Once I figure out the ergonomics, this €300 cockpit should be great to use! Though, if I would need to choose again, I'd have gone with 4080 or whatever aluminium extrusion is called. Much more adjustability, which imo is the weakest point of this cockpit.
Great info thanks mate! :) Sadly with the new CSL stuff most preexisting cockpits won't have holes pre drilled, probably pot luck if you do. DD Wheel bases are all quite high and stick the wheel far forward, it's a pain! At least with a little DIY you can get it sorted! :)
I remember when you reviewed the GT Omega stand (not the cockpit version) and your video was so good, it made me buy it too lol. You need to stop making spend money sir! I'm joking of course, dropped a like as always :) cheers!
I've had my Omega Art cockpit for about the same amount of time. Maybe a little longer. Still as sturdy as day one. I put a Dayton bass Shaker on it for sim racing. So glad I bought it. Yours looks a little nicer. :)
Just bought art cockpit without seat as I have Astra coupe leather seat in the garage. Purchased after watching your reviews and used your link and discount code. Cheers Karl.
Thanks for the review Karl. Just purchased the GT Omega ART using your link. Looking forward to upgrade from my Vision Racer v1 and G29 to the GT Omega ART with RS9 and Fanatec DD Pro. Your videos and GT7 has renewed my interest in Sim racing after years away.
I have a fake ART (Vevor RS6 $220USD with seat $130USD without,) and I can confirm the additions available with the ART work. I have the monitor mount, also braced the whole rig heavily with flat steel (not even a mm of movement.) The only modification I had to make for an add-on was the aluminum tabletop (which I just got after waiting on a restock for nearly a year.) I was able to use the wheel (Thrustmaster) to hold it on but no other holes on my wheel deck lined up with the top if I used the thrustmaster mounting holes. Luckily, there was solid metal under 2 pre drilled tabletop holes, so I just drilled there and it created MAXIMUM rigidity in the wheel deck once properly mounted on "4 corners". If you use any other mounting holes it'll work flawlessly on the Vevor RS6's deck, but if you use Thrustmaster you'll want to drill to reap the benefits of the table top. No more up and down wheel flex, and it all works so perfectly. The Vevor RS6 is the way to go imo. But to be transparent, it is definitely made with a slightly softer metal than the ART. I can tell by the ART monitor stand's square steel vs the Vevor's. So don't over tighten on the Vevor or you might pull through. But go ahead and twist it as hard as possible on the ART. Otherwise, both feel IDENTICAL in use
I’ve been watching for about a week now and this is the first time I’ve heard your voice. I always watch you in the library with subtitles on and audio off and I had no idea you were British
Hey Karl! Sitting on my couch patiently waiting for UPS to pull in the driveway with my new ART!!! Your videos were by far the best and most informative to help me make my purchase. Used your code as well. Thanks man!!!
yeah same jusr order myslef one but inflation is a B hes talking about a 300 something dollar cockpit at the toime of the recording but it costed me $450 with the discont 🥲
I bought the Titan cockpit from GT Omega, just waiting for them to get the seats back into stock in their Australian warehouse and then Im ready to go.
Hey mate, been scouring all your videos on sim cockpits for the last week or 2 and settled on the GT Omega ART. Really helpful vids with great comparisons, hopefully I'll get some good use out of it! Bought the cockpit and the floor mat and used your code for a few quid off, it basically paid for the floor mat. Thanks!
I just used your discount code to purchase this. Very happy with your review and helped me push the button on making the purchase after wanting something like this for months.
I like mine. Just looking to solve two issues; like all these entry level sims, the seat is still quite low, even with the highest position on the bracket. I'd like to raise the cockpit a few inches, or the seat. Second, the center bar between the pedal plate and seat is right where you step and gets in the way. Surely, it could be removed, especially if it is on the ground.
Hey man I’ve been watching some of your vids because I’m starting to get into e racing but just wanna say thank you for allowing me to see so many rigs and the quality of you vids is awesome, your vids give this relaxing feel to them maybe it’s because you setup/room keep up the good work brotha 💯
Thanks for the review. I have the exact same rig, but with the RS9 chair. Also I use the other monitor stand, that is separate from the rig. I agree on everything you say in this review, and I've been using my rig mostly for Dirt Rally for years. In my opinion you get very good value for the money with a GT Omega Art.
So glad I shelled out for the Titan instead of this thing. I had this in my cart for a week. But it just looked so cheap Used your link for my Titan BTW! Thank you!
Your passion for this is contagious! I'm looking to buy a demo G920 from my electronic store on monday god willing. Vastly reduced price than buying new! Can't wait to sink my teeth into DiRT 2.0. Thanks for the videos and take care, cheers!
@@KarlGosling I got the wheel and DiRT, tested out the test track to calibrate everything. Then I tried Wales Sweet Lamb stage. After spinning out 10-15 times I got a clean run in mostly 3 gear and the wonderful time 9m46s!
Thank you for the video! I just bought a G29 and considering how bad I was at WRC8 yesterday I probably can stick to some of the cheaper variants of cockpits to get started. When I will be able to drive as good as you - then it might be time for an upgrade.
@@GardenGuy1942 Unfortunately, it's true. I swapped my G29 for Fanatec DD2 setup with Omega Prime cockpit and I still suck. It take ages to set up and configure everything. The more adjustments and variables you have the more things you find to complain about and blame for your failures. I guess I enjoy tinkering with my rig more than driving it for now. Not to mention that it looks sick! I just need to settle down and focus on actually being consistent and learning the gear and game mechanics.
Awesome video. I've played Gran Trurismo Sport and 7 on my PS5 with the dualsense controller. I've decided to finally buy a Logitech Wheel and Pedals and they came packaged with advertising for the Playseat products. I watched your review of the Evolution which was also excellent and you mentioned this rig as a better entry level rig. So now I've ordered the GT Omega Art and can't wait to get it. I'm curious about your height/weight, as viewers could use that info when we watch and see how well the cockpits you review fit you, and then we could better guess how well it might fit us. Just a thought. Keep making great content.
Great video! I just wonder how big is your tv. The gt omega website said the mount can only support up to 42inch monitor, but i do have a 65inch tv, wonder if i can put it there
Just bought this complete setup with HOTAS as im in to flight sims . But will be looking at getting into Race Sim . Would like to say thank you for your clear Honest videos . Oh i used your discount Code also , lol .
Thanks for the in-depth review Karl, especially the honest bits about the flex. I just ordered mine after watching your review (used your code!) and appreciate the discount man. Keep the videos coming, really like how you get down and dirty with the equipment as well as the not so good things about them.
bought mine today and its excellent, coming from a playseat evolution which was too small for me at 6ft2. went for the xl seat which is perfect for me, also thanks for the discount code Karl got £18 off ! subscribed!
Did you ever do the upgrade for stiffening? I can't seem to find the video on your channel (unless it's in something else). Good overview on the rig, love the open honest approach :)
Bit of a random question Karl, I am in the process of returning the Next Level Racing Flight Simulator Lite as I find it very uncomfortable. Been looking at the ART as a possible replacement, but one question, when I was in the FS Lite, the Battery on the back of my quest 2 kept getting in the way of the seat. Is that likely to be a problem with the Art? I am 6 foot 2 (about 14 stone if that makes a difference).
I wanna thank you for your clean and honost reviews. Just started sim racing like 2 months ago mounting to my desk. I just ordered the Omega GT Art with XL RS seat + monitor mount thanks to you. Stil having a G29 though but I feel this gives me a solid base to keep upgrading bit by bit. Not really sure if my wife likes it as much :P Again Cheers m8!
Karl, can you please explain what the black ductwork on either side of the wheel is for? Your videos are great, really informative and entertaining. Keep up the good work!
@Karl Gosling nice Review. The Setup is also nice. How works the combination of Thrustmaster TS PC /XW Base and V3 Pedal from Fanatec? I have the same Wheel BAse with T3PA pro and want upgrade. The Thrustmaster T-LCM are not on my wish List, the Fanatec looks more stabil. How they working togehther?
They work great, neither have any direct connection to the other just plug in USB mate. I would also pass on the T-LCM's, not a great set vs the CSL's.
@@KarlGosling When i streching my leg is ok, but got struggle when fold up. I'm 167cm heights. My rig was same company but different model. Maybe that's the case
looking at buying one of these for my T300 so I can buy myself some load cell pedals - how did you have all of this plugged up to your PC? did you just have a rather long USB and DP/HDMI cable (or just have it close to your pc) going to your PC or did you have a dedicated PC for your rig? cheers mate, looking forward to that sweet sweet 5% discount when i buy one
Please do a video on the whatever it is to help with flex on the rig, as I’ve just got my GT omega ART a week ago, it’s awesome but I have noticed a little bit of that up/down left/right flex. If you don’t do a video could you please leave it in the comments what you did and how to do it etc. Love your videos! Keep up the good work! Cheers mate
Awesome video. I just bought this with few other bits and used your code for the discount. Thanks for the discount it really helped me out.i just subscribed too!.
Great videos Karl. You seem like a genuinely nice guy. I bought a 2nd hand CSW2.5 set with new V3 pedals and used your referral to get the ART cockpit for it. It will replace my Wheel Stand Pro with a G29 set, so I hope Im gonna enjoy driving with that a little bit more :) Too bad it doesn't have the support for DD upgrades if I feel like in the future so I need to upgrade the rig also then.
Thats great! You can stiffen it up a fair bit (I have a video on this) but it would probably still flex a little if you're using a very high torque setting.
@TMI Was there a certain set of screws that came with the rig that I’m missing maybe. I think it’s ridiculous that I can’t figure it out either, but here we are lol.
Hey Karl...Thanks for all the videos that you been sharing. I am still undecided in which chair i would pick. i am considering the Playseat Trophy, GT Art and Next Level (havent even decided which model). I want to have your advice, my fanatec dd pro is on its way and i ordered the 8nm version. which racing corkpit would you recommed if i need a setup that's less bulky since i am will be moving it around quite often in and out from storage. Price is not a concern for me. Your reply will be highly appreciated. Thanks.
Have just purchase the GT Omega ART RS6, and would like to know is there a dust cover you can buy for this cockpit as I have looked everywhere without any luck. Thanks
@Karl Gosling Thanks Karl, after searching Idecided on buying a Mobiliry scooter cover as the measurements seem close to this this kit and the shape and size seem the same, let's hope it is, will update you when I got. Just got the GT Omega rig today, fun starts when I assemble it.
Thanks for the review and for the discount code which I just used to order one of these! Can't wait to give this ago along with the Logitech G920 steering wheel plus shifter I got a few days ago. Haven't even opened those yet! Will unbox it all when I get the cockpit, it will feel like early Christmas! :D I have been watching your videos which I might add are great and I have gone from being sure set on a Playseat Challenge to a NLR F-GT Lite to this. How hard is it to move it out of the way? In my case I will be using it in the middle of the living room with no TV attached to it, just the steering wheel set. Wanted to ask as well if you ever added or tried on the flight sim accessories to the cockpit? I know it supports it which is one of the reasons I went for it but would like to check out a video on that if you have one that is. Thanks again, all the best and keep your videos unscripted as they feel more natural and even funnier that way haha!
Awesome!! :) If you buy the castors too then yes it easily wheels out the way. I've never fitted flight sim stuff sorry. lol I will never script anything, there's no need and it's just extra work!
I'm considering purchasing this over a GT Omega Classic/Apex wheel stand but hoping to use it without the seat base initially. You mentioned removing the seat and using as an extra chair - do you know if the "front half" would be sturdy enough on its own to act like an interim wheel stand? Thanks!
Thanks for the review! Currently using a rig I got from argos with ADX Ultimate gaming written on it... giving me nothing but grief so looking to upgrade and you have just made my mind up on what to buy. Quick question tho, what monitor stand are you using? Looking to buy one of them also. Thanks! 😊
@@KarlGosling thank you Karl! Is there anything else I’d have to get/modify I’m order to make sure the pedals don’t move when pressure is applied or am I all good.
I’m looking at the art cockpit to upgrade from my gt lite because I got the dd pro by Fanatec and csl pedals with load cell. Do you think the art will work better then the gt lite?
@karl gosling Hey KG rear review and in-depth as always. Just a question not sure if You've made a video on this before came to you're channel, but having been on sim for like 6months realised apart from wanting to upgrade from Logitech the main thing that I wish I knew from beginning was use of platform. Atm I'm on xbox1 but realised PC is the way Togo due to equipment upgrade ease accessibility usage and just sim content is alot easier can download upgrades etc for your drive tracks etc so is a whole new world on PC then on a console. So trying to look at this but do you have a video or going to make one on you're PC setup, and how we could go about moving across from a console to a pc what to look for and so forth whether have to get a gaming Hardrive/pc or a standard pc will do or obv best way if you have budget ofc is to build your own PC but for those who don't have expendable budgets what's the best way for us to have good experience moving to PC that we can then upgrade piece by piece in future with equipment etc if you understand that be great to see personally as I'm serious looking at that as a first bigger upgrade before upgrading the Wheelbase pedals and shifter. Thanks
The easiest answer is for people with no PC building experience to buy a ready built gaming PC from someone like Origin... it must be a gaming PC, a normal office based system will be no use.
@@KarlGosling do you reckon that setup could hold a 55"? Just waiting on delivery of omega art and was worried that the bracket may not hold the 55" as omega say up to 40"
@@KarlGosling thanks for the reply Karl Which motion platforms do you use? And the buttkicker? Is it compatible with games consoles? I'm looking to build my own entry level SIM cockpit. Jus wanted some background info
Nice review. I both play simracing and simflight. Can i leave permanently the square HOTAS mount in the middle and steering wheel at same time? Or do i have to remove the HOTAS mount everytime i play simracing?
So could you leave the casters and seat section off and use this more like a stand? Seems a bit more sturdy and leaves more room for future options than a stand like the Apex or Classic.
Wheel is by your knees! Because seat isnt designed to be raised. Wheel i guess at maximum. Issue with playseat cant get wheel to chest height and have it far enough away for a 6ft person. All rigs have this issue
I was planning to buy this, but I realized that I really need to get a handbrake apparatus, because a control on my wheel wasn't going to work at all while trying to perform handbrake turns. I'll wait until I feel better about the pieces I want to get. Is there a good recommended handbrake that works and won't break the bank like the TSSH does?
I got a second handed ART and it lacks some features compared to the one that Karl is reviewing in this video. For instance, mine does not have the holes to bolt the lower end of the pedal plate, you have to secure it using ties or brackets, but it is not very sturdy (still have to try it with the new fanatec load cell pedal). I Bought it because of this review, but it seems I got an older version of the rig...
@@KarlGosling I think it is legit, I bought it from an acquaintamce that got it imported to Spain from the UK years ago. Anyway it may be a copy, though it is quite rigid all around. PS: another difference: the wheel plate is not pre-drilled for my Fanatec CSL Elite. Thanks for your answer!
Hi Karl. This vid tipped me over the edge to get the ART. Built it up over the last couple of nights. Question - what bolts do I need to attach a G920?? Nothing in the box, so assume I need to sort myself. Believe it's an M6 bolt, but unsure on length. Any ideas??
@@KarlGosling Cheers mate. Just noticed a few M6 sized ones in the bag for the shifter attachment. Hopefully use those whilst I decide if I'm going to attach the shifter mount👍
Im currently using just my desk and mounted my pedals onto a board thats up against the wall.. Sometimes it feels good, sometimes absolutely not. Id like something like this but the 1 problem I got is monitor setup. Im a regular gamer aswell as a race gamer. Aaaaaaah why does this have to be my hobby....
Thanks for the review. I was wondering of there is any chance for you to review the Spectre Carbon from SpectreForm. It looks cheap (and is very cheap), and the "seat" is laughable compared to your proper seat, but the manufacturer and the (very few) reviews I found claim no flex whatsoever
Hello Karl I was looking at this seat I have a g29 at moment is it available to purchase a plate to fit thrusstmaster base at a later stage when I upgrade? Ty
I want to buy this cockpit but the ones with the seats are sold out. Any seat suggestion that will fit the gt omega art frame and is comparable to the rs9?
Nevermind i used your link and i bought the gt omega frame the i was able to go to seats and they were in stock by themselves. Idk i guess they spotted so many with the seat frame combo . Anyways, love your videos and your reviews are very informative
Alright mate. Just bought the ART. Made a bit of a balls up, thought I would be able to mount my GT Omega office chair but the holes don't line up. Just wondering if you knew of a way to mod it so I can mount it or if there is another seat that's easy to mount other than the official Omega offerings. Trying to save a few notes if possible. Cheers for any help you can provide. 👍
Go to the local Home repair store and buy a 2'x2' piece of either 1/2" or 3/4" plywood and make an adapter plate. Also if you wanted better in rig adjustment you can go on like Amazon and order seat slider rail assemblies for $35-$40 dollars which will allow backward and forward seat adjustment. This and a few bolts and washers and you will be in business. Add in some black spray paint and it will not even be noticed overall and you can still use your gaming chair for a seat.
hi Im looking a the basic one of these. do you know if it comes with a slider for the seat.. is it easy to adjust if different size people using it.. thanks
@@KarlGosling sorry mean not getting the motion movement with it.. Can you adjust things eaaily for different size people using it.. Thanks for the reply and the great review of it.. Its a big help
I have the GT Omega classic wheel stand which if I'm correct is the front half of this rig? If I get the rear seat frame and XL RS seat would this be ok for the CSL DD with Boost kit I have coming in November?
It's very similar but not exactly the same, there are no uprights for a monitor mount and the pedal tray differs too, overall it has a fair bit more wobble/flex than the ART which in itself has enough. Adding the rear half and a seat will give you a full cockpit but I'd recommend bracing the front half to reduce flex.
Recently got into Sim racing using my Thrustmaster T300RSGT clamped to my desk but looking for a reasonably priced cockpit... Shame this one is out of stock and nowhere on earth has them because your review has sold me 😢
After days of research, I just ordered this cockpit with the monitor mount and aluminum table top. Your review of this and other rigs was extremely helpful in finding what I want. Thank you so much and keep up the excellent content!
Excellent, enjoy mate! :)
So I've had the GT Omega ART with the RS9 seat - since... November 2021, and have been using it with a G27, and it's been perfect for that wheelbase. I just received the CSL DD today and here's a short summary of things I'm running into. Might be useful for if anyone has the same idea.
The CSL DD base doesn't have an angle to it, and the ART's wheel plate doesn't angle enough. I plan to use some braces to lift things up a tiny bit for some extra angle.
The wheel base itself is quite high, so you might want to lower the plate. If you had to put it in a low position already, it might be an issue. The CSL DD does fit perfectly in the tray when flipped upside down, but it's not ideal and the edge needs to get bent or cut away to plug in the pedals and shifters.
The shaft is also quite long and brings the wheel rather close to you. Sliding the wheel deck down helps a bit but also puts it rather low. I'm turning around the tray and drilling an extra set of holes so the base can sit much further back.
Also, the pedals (CSL Pedals) don't quite line up. The base lines up but the holes in the pedals - there's no horizontal slot, so you might need to drill there too. My LC brake comes later so I'm postponing that until I get the final layout.
Finally, not CSL DD related - the monitor mount sits a bit far away. I'm using it with a 34" ultrawide and had to extend it with some contraption to bring it some 12cm closer to me, for more FOV.
So in short - it's not a quick swap if you plan to use a DD base, and you'll need to adjust a bunch of things. To end things on a positive note, it handles the CSL DD with boost kit (8Nm) fine without further strenghtening! Once I figure out the ergonomics, this €300 cockpit should be great to use!
Though, if I would need to choose again, I'd have gone with 4080 or whatever aluminium extrusion is called. Much more adjustability, which imo is the weakest point of this cockpit.
Great info thanks mate! :)
Sadly with the new CSL stuff most preexisting cockpits won't have holes pre drilled, probably pot luck if you do.
DD Wheel bases are all quite high and stick the wheel far forward, it's a pain!
At least with a little DIY you can get it sorted! :)
I remember when you reviewed the GT Omega stand (not the cockpit version) and your video was so good, it made me buy it too lol. You need to stop making spend money sir! I'm joking of course, dropped a like as always :) cheers!
I've had my Omega Art cockpit for about the same amount of time. Maybe a little longer.
Still as sturdy as day one. I put a Dayton bass Shaker on it for sim racing.
So glad I bought it. Yours looks a little nicer. :)
Thanks to this video and Danny Lee’s video I ended up purchasing a ART with RS9. Very very happy with it.
Just bought art cockpit without seat as I have Astra coupe leather seat in the garage. Purchased after watching your reviews and used your link and discount code. Cheers Karl.
Oh nice mate, enjoy! :)
Very nice rig setup you have - Love the magic tree!
Adds so much realism! 😆
The car freshener tree - does that cover the olfactory dimension of sim racing?
Thanks for the review Karl. Just purchased the GT Omega ART using your link. Looking forward to upgrade from my Vision Racer v1 and G29 to the GT Omega ART with RS9 and Fanatec DD Pro. Your videos and GT7 has renewed my interest in Sim racing after years away.
Sounds upgrades mate! :)
I have a fake ART (Vevor RS6 $220USD with seat $130USD without,) and I can confirm the additions available with the ART work. I have the monitor mount, also braced the whole rig heavily with flat steel (not even a mm of movement.) The only modification I had to make for an add-on was the aluminum tabletop (which I just got after waiting on a restock for nearly a year.) I was able to use the wheel (Thrustmaster) to hold it on but no other holes on my wheel deck lined up with the top if I used the thrustmaster mounting holes. Luckily, there was solid metal under 2 pre drilled tabletop holes, so I just drilled there and it created MAXIMUM rigidity in the wheel deck once properly mounted on "4 corners". If you use any other mounting holes it'll work flawlessly on the Vevor RS6's deck, but if you use Thrustmaster you'll want to drill to reap the benefits of the table top. No more up and down wheel flex, and it all works so perfectly. The Vevor RS6 is the way to go imo. But to be transparent, it is definitely made with a slightly softer metal than the ART. I can tell by the ART monitor stand's square steel vs the Vevor's. So don't over tighten on the Vevor or you might pull through. But go ahead and twist it as hard as possible on the ART. Otherwise, both feel IDENTICAL in use
I just ordered the Vevor, waiting on it to arrive. Can you explain more on how you braced it?
Thanks Karl for your great reviews! Exactly what I was looking for. Just ordered the art cockpit with tv mount and wheels.
just bought one of these, your reviews are great!
I’ve been watching for about a week now and this is the first time I’ve heard your voice. I always watch you in the library with subtitles on and audio off and I had no idea you were British
lol I am indeed mate!
Just ordered mine today with the floor mat and monitor mount, got 20 quid off with the code, cheers mate!
Decent! :D
Hey Karl! Sitting on my couch patiently waiting for UPS to pull in the driveway with my new ART!!! Your videos were by far the best and most informative to help me make my purchase. Used your code as well. Thanks man!!!
Excellent, have fun with it mate! :)
Just ordered one based on your reviews..thanks for the 5% off as well..love your content, keep it up.
Thanks Mark enjoy mate!
yeah same jusr order myslef one but inflation is a B hes talking about a 300 something dollar cockpit at the toime of the recording but it costed me $450 with the discont 🥲
I bought the Titan cockpit from GT Omega, just waiting for them to get the seats back into stock in their Australian warehouse and then Im ready to go.
Hey mate, been scouring all your videos on sim cockpits for the last week or 2 and settled on the GT Omega ART.
Really helpful vids with great comparisons, hopefully I'll get some good use out of it! Bought the cockpit and the floor mat and used your code for a few quid off, it basically paid for the floor mat.
Thanks!
Nice mate, enjoy your new setup! :D
Solid review video, looking into buying a racing rig soon and this was just what i was looking for! Thanks 👍🏼
I just used your discount code to purchase this. Very happy with your review and helped me push the button on making the purchase after wanting something like this for months.
Nice enjoy mate!
Out of interest how much % did the discount take off?
I like mine. Just looking to solve two issues; like all these entry level sims, the seat is still quite low, even with the highest position on the bracket. I'd like to raise the cockpit a few inches, or the seat. Second, the center bar between the pedal plate and seat is right where you step and gets in the way. Surely, it could be removed, especially if it is on the ground.
Raising the seat is easy, just add two more lengths of profile and GT Omega sell a "floor" plate to cover the gap you're talking about :)
@@KarlGosling Sorry, I don't understand what you meant about lengths of profile. And the floor plate is for the prime rig. I have a ART.
Hey man I’ve been watching some of your vids because I’m starting to get into e racing but just wanna say thank you for allowing me to see so many rigs and the quality of you vids is awesome, your vids give this relaxing feel to them maybe it’s because you setup/room keep up the good work brotha 💯
Thanks mate appreciated!
Thanks for the review. I have the exact same rig, but with the RS9 chair. Also I use the other monitor stand, that is separate from the rig. I agree on everything you say in this review, and I've been using my rig mostly for Dirt Rally for years. In my opinion you get very good value for the money with a GT Omega Art.
Good man! :)
So glad I shelled out for the Titan instead of this thing. I had this in my cart for a week. But it just looked so cheap
Used your link for my Titan BTW! Thank you!
Titan is much more solid, cheers mate!
Your passion for this is contagious!
I'm looking to buy a demo G920 from my electronic store on monday god willing. Vastly reduced price than buying new! Can't wait to sink my teeth into DiRT 2.0.
Thanks for the videos and take care, cheers!
DR2.0 is awesome, you'll love it! :)
@@KarlGosling I got the wheel and DiRT, tested out the test track to calibrate everything. Then I tried Wales Sweet Lamb stage. After spinning out 10-15 times I got a clean run in mostly 3 gear and the wonderful time 9m46s!
Thank you for the video! I just bought a G29 and considering how bad I was at WRC8 yesterday I probably can stick to some of the cheaper variants of cockpits to get started. When I will be able to drive as good as you - then it might be time for an upgrade.
You’ll never be good.
@@GardenGuy1942 Unfortunately, it's true. I swapped my G29 for Fanatec DD2 setup with Omega Prime cockpit and I still suck. It take ages to set up and configure everything. The more adjustments and variables you have the more things you find to complain about and blame for your failures. I guess I enjoy tinkering with my rig more than driving it for now. Not to mention that it looks sick! I just need to settle down and focus on actually being consistent and learning the gear and game mechanics.
That rig flexes more than a gymnast. Holy crap!!!
Entry level cockpits do mate, you get what you pay for.
I just used your code to get one of those plus the art support bar. thanks man
Hope you enjoy it!
Awesome video. I've played Gran Trurismo Sport and 7 on my PS5 with the dualsense controller. I've decided to finally buy a Logitech Wheel and Pedals and they came packaged with advertising for the Playseat products. I watched your review of the Evolution which was also excellent and you mentioned this rig as a better entry level rig. So now I've ordered the GT Omega Art and can't wait to get it. I'm curious about your height/weight, as viewers could use that info when we watch and see how well the cockpits you review fit you, and then we could better guess how well it might fit us. Just a thought. Keep making great content.
5'11" and 14st 5lb mate :)
Great video! I just wonder how big is your tv. The gt omega website said the mount can only support up to 42inch monitor, but i do have a 65inch tv, wonder if i can put it there
50" in this video mate and that only just fit.
Just bought this complete setup with HOTAS as im in to flight sims . But will be looking at getting into Race Sim .
Would like to say thank you for your clear Honest videos .
Oh i used your discount Code also , lol .
No worries mate, glad it all helps! :)
Hahaha rob a carseat at the scrap. Love it
Thanks for the in-depth review Karl, especially the honest bits about the flex. I just ordered mine after watching your review (used your code!) and appreciate the discount man.
Keep the videos coming, really like how you get down and dirty with the equipment as well as the not so good things about them.
Glad to help
I just got the gt omega stand yesterday for my new g920. Getting a full office end of this year, may do a cockpit then. Cheers from the US.
Can you change the side of the shifter?
@@evanauge5895 Yes! There is a matching set of mounting holes on the left side.
bought mine today and its excellent, coming from a playseat evolution which was too small for me at 6ft2. went for the xl seat which is perfect for me, also thanks for the discount code Karl got £18 off ! subscribed!
Excellent! :D
Im almost 6ft1 so do you think I should get the xl seat?
@@smilow2.021 definately
@@andrewshaughnessy6764 thank you
Maybe taking the wheels out and replace them with sliders. It would be way more stable and the tiny wheels wouldn’t have to support all the weight.
Again a nice vid great explanation ...going to look at the omega ..i now see what it can take extra ..thnx for the info 👌👌👍
No problem!
Thank you so much for helping me decide on getting my first rig!
Happy to help!
Did you ever do the upgrade for stiffening? I can't seem to find the video on your channel (unless it's in something else). Good overview on the rig, love the open honest approach :)
Yes mate th-cam.com/video/cn1ViBrnIoE/w-d-xo.html
@@KarlGosling Awesome! Great and simple mod, wicked idea to do it in red :)
Bit of a random question Karl, I am in the process of returning the Next Level Racing Flight Simulator Lite as I find it very uncomfortable. Been looking at the ART as a possible replacement, but one question, when I was in the FS Lite, the Battery on the back of my quest 2 kept getting in the way of the seat. Is that likely to be a problem with the Art? I am 6 foot 2 (about 14 stone if that makes a difference).
I think if you have the seat in a very upright position then yes, but you'll probably find that with any seat that has a headrest section.
@@KarlGosling Right. Okay thank you. I suppose I could tilt the seat back. Otherwise, I guess I'm stuffed.
@@KarlGosling Decided to go for it and ordered the Art with the XL RS chair. Wish me luck. Oh and thank you for the discount code :)
I wanna thank you for your clean and honost reviews. Just started sim racing like 2 months ago mounting to my desk. I just ordered the Omega GT Art with XL RS seat + monitor mount thanks to you. Stil having a G29 though but I feel this gives me a solid base to keep upgrading bit by bit. Not really sure if my wife likes it as much :P
Again Cheers m8!
Welcome to the hobby mate.... wives just have to get used to it ;) lol
Karl, can you please explain what the black ductwork on either side of the wheel is for? Your videos are great, really informative and entertaining. Keep up the good work!
Wind "simulation" basically the faster you go the more wind you get blowing at you, adds to the feeling of speed and keeps you cooler! :)
@Karl Gosling nice Review. The Setup is also nice. How works the combination of Thrustmaster TS PC /XW Base and V3 Pedal from Fanatec? I have the same Wheel BAse with T3PA pro and want upgrade. The Thrustmaster T-LCM are not on my wish List, the Fanatec looks more stabil. How they working togehther?
They work great, neither have any direct connection to the other just plug in USB mate.
I would also pass on the T-LCM's, not a great set vs the CSL's.
Does your knee touched the wheelbase's underneath ? Mine has this issue and feels no more room to put keyboard holder to it.
No mate, I guess this will depend on your height and leg length, also of course how high you adjust the wheel deck.
@@KarlGosling When i streching my leg is ok, but got struggle when fold up. I'm 167cm heights. My rig was same company but different model. Maybe that's the case
looking at buying one of these for my T300 so I can buy myself some load cell pedals - how did you have all of this plugged up to your PC? did you just have a rather long USB and DP/HDMI cable (or just have it close to your pc) going to your PC or did you have a dedicated PC for your rig? cheers mate, looking forward to that sweet sweet 5% discount when i buy one
Yeah long USB and HDMI cables mate.
Did you ever realease a video for fixing the flex?
nvm found it lmao
Where didyou get the seatbelt? And will you make a review or a little video about it?
eBay and yes I will mate :)
Please do a video on the whatever it is to help with flex on the rig, as I’ve just got my GT omega ART a week ago, it’s awesome but I have noticed a little bit of that up/down left/right flex. If you don’t do a video could you please leave it in the comments what you did and how to do it etc. Love your videos! Keep up the good work! Cheers mate
Should be next Friday mate! :)
Karl Gosling sweet cant wait mate!
What wheel are you using??
Awesome video. I just bought this with few other bits and used your code for the discount. Thanks for the discount it really helped me out.i just subscribed too!.
Hope you enjoy it!
Great videos Karl. You seem like a genuinely nice guy. I bought a 2nd hand CSW2.5 set with new V3 pedals and used your referral to get the ART cockpit for it. It will replace my Wheel Stand Pro with a G29 set, so I hope Im gonna enjoy driving with that a little bit more :) Too bad it doesn't have the support for DD upgrades if I feel like in the future so I need to upgrade the rig also then.
Thats great! You can stiffen it up a fair bit (I have a video on this) but it would probably still flex a little if you're using a very high torque setting.
Hey how did you attach you V3 pedals I’m struggling with mine. 😅
@@Rallyman2222 I dunno what you mean ? They fit the pedal plate perfectly
@TMI Was there a certain set of screws that came with the rig that I’m missing maybe. I think it’s ridiculous that I can’t figure it out either, but here we are lol.
@@Rallyman2222 I guess so ? Just get default nuts and bolts from a hardware store and ur set
Hey Karl...Thanks for all the videos that you been sharing. I am still undecided in which chair i would pick. i am considering the Playseat Trophy, GT Art and Next Level (havent even decided which model). I want to have your advice, my fanatec dd pro is on its way and i ordered the 8nm version. which racing corkpit would you recommed if i need a setup that's less bulky since i am will be moving it around quite often in and out from storage. Price is not a concern for me. Your reply will be highly appreciated. Thanks.
I'd go GT Omega Titan with castors if you need to move it around, it's much more solid than the ART but of course costs more.
Have just purchase the GT Omega ART RS6, and would like to know is there a dust cover you can buy for this cockpit as I have looked everywhere without any luck. Thanks
Not that I know of mate sorry.
@Karl Gosling Thanks Karl, after searching Idecided on buying a Mobiliry scooter cover as the measurements seem close to this this kit and the shape and size seem the same, let's hope it is, will update you when I got. Just got the GT Omega rig today, fun starts when I assemble it.
I’m loving that rig Karl
Thank mate! It's alright for a entry/mid level setup.
Karl Gosling was considering this as a next step from the playseat evolution
Thanks for the review and for the discount code which I just used to order one of these! Can't wait to give this ago along with the Logitech G920 steering wheel plus shifter I got a few days ago. Haven't even opened those yet! Will unbox it all when I get the cockpit, it will feel like early Christmas! :D
I have been watching your videos which I might add are great and I have gone from being sure set on a Playseat Challenge to a NLR F-GT Lite to this. How hard is it to move it out of the way? In my case I will be using it in the middle of the living room with no TV attached to it, just the steering wheel set.
Wanted to ask as well if you ever added or tried on the flight sim accessories to the cockpit? I know it supports it which is one of the reasons I went for it but would like to check out a video on that if you have one that is.
Thanks again, all the best and keep your videos unscripted as they feel more natural and even funnier that way haha!
Awesome!! :)
If you buy the castors too then yes it easily wheels out the way.
I've never fitted flight sim stuff sorry.
lol I will never script anything, there's no need and it's just extra work!
Hi karl can u reccomend wheel snd pedals to go with this...tm preferbly
Buy the best you can afford mate, T-LCM pedals with a TS-PC Racer would be great.
I'm considering purchasing this over a GT Omega Classic/Apex wheel stand but hoping to use it without the seat base initially. You mentioned removing the seat and using as an extra chair - do you know if the "front half" would be sturdy enough on its own to act like an interim wheel stand? Thanks!
It should be yes, the front half is basically a slightly sturdier wheel stand classic.
can you change which side the shifter is on for us american buyers
Yes mate fits either side.
@@KarlGosling thank you
Hey man, is it possible to move the shifter stand to the right side?
Yes, it is possible to place it in the another side.
@@tsar942 ty
@@tsar942 do you know if the shifter mount comes with the cockpit or do i have to buy it Separately?
@Sylent Boi The shifter mount comes with the rig, you dont need to buy it separetly.
@@tsar942 ty again
Can you install a buttkicker on this without the specific mount? It seems to be forever sold out
Do you happen to know if fanatec V3 pedals can mount to this rig?
Yes mate thats exactly what I ran! :)
Only came across this video, do you know of the caster bolts are 10 or 12mm, gt omega is out of stock 🙈
IIRC They are only M8 mate.
Karl, which one would you recommend between the ART and the TITAN?
They are very different mate, the ART has much more adjustment and add-ons (monitor mount for example) but the Titan is much more rigid.
What are the size/dimensions for wheels for the cockpit? Website is sold out. Used your code/link to order the art though. Thanks for that!
Thanks for the review! Currently using a rig I got from argos with ADX Ultimate gaming written on it... giving me nothing but grief so looking to upgrade and you have just made my mind up on what to buy. Quick question tho, what monitor stand are you using? Looking to buy one of them also. Thanks! 😊
It's the GT Omega ART monitor add on.
Hey Karl, how did you attach your pedals to the rig?
M6 bolts.
@@KarlGosling thank you Karl! Is there anything else I’d have to get/modify I’m order to make sure the pedals don’t move when pressure is applied or am I all good.
I’m looking at the art cockpit to upgrade from my gt lite because I got the dd pro by Fanatec and csl pedals with load cell. Do you think the art will work better then the gt lite?
Yes this will be more solid than any foldable cockpit mate.
@@KarlGosling cool beans I don’t have the cash for the prime plus the prime is to big
@karl gosling
Hey KG rear review and in-depth as always.
Just a question not sure if You've made a video on this before came to you're channel, but having been on sim for like 6months realised apart from wanting to upgrade from Logitech the main thing that I wish I knew from beginning was use of platform. Atm I'm on xbox1 but realised PC is the way Togo due to equipment upgrade ease accessibility usage and just sim content is alot easier can download upgrades etc for your drive tracks etc so is a whole new world on PC then on a console.
So trying to look at this but do you have a video or going to make one on you're PC setup, and how we could go about moving across from a console to a pc what to look for and so forth whether have to get a gaming Hardrive/pc or a standard pc will do or obv best way if you have budget ofc is to build your own PC but for those who don't have expendable budgets what's the best way for us to have good experience moving to PC that we can then upgrade piece by piece in future with equipment etc if you understand that be great to see personally as I'm serious looking at that as a first bigger upgrade before upgrading the Wheelbase pedals and shifter.
Thanks
The easiest answer is for people with no PC building experience to buy a ready built gaming PC from someone like Origin... it must be a gaming PC, a normal office based system will be no use.
How much is a emotion platform. Where you get them from
What weight is that tv Karl? What do you think is the best size tv for that setup?
Around 50Kg, the biggest you can mate, ideally we'd all have screens the size of a real windscreen in a car for a true 1:1 real world experience! :)
@@KarlGosling do you reckon that setup could hold a 55"? Just waiting on delivery of omega art and was worried that the bracket may not hold the 55" as omega say up to 40"
hi karl
Which motion platforms are compatible? With the art rig
Thanks
@@KarlGosling thanks for the reply Karl
Which motion platforms do you use?
And the buttkicker?
Is it compatible with games consoles?
I'm looking to build my own entry level SIM cockpit.
Jus wanted some background info
Nice review. I both play simracing and simflight.
Can i leave permanently the square HOTAS mount in the middle and steering wheel at same time?
Or do i have to remove the HOTAS mount everytime i play simracing?
Depends if you can climb in and out with it there mate.
Hi Karl, could you tell me about the ducting and fans, Where they were purchased, Sizes etc Cheers
This is an old DIY setup, now I use a Hurricane Kit from Sim Racing Studio (discounted link in any of my video descriptions if you're interested).
@@KarlGosling Thanks for the reply buddy, I'll check them out.
Would you recommend this for the moza R5 I know you advised against the DD wheels but it’s less torque then the one you are using so I was curious
Yeah it would be fine, there's also some simple stiffening mods you can do that help a lot!
karl, can you please explain what are those large tubes on ur sim
I remember my father in law once said "My biggest problem with racing seats is that I don't have a racing arse" >_
So could you leave the casters and seat section off and use this more like a stand? Seems a bit more sturdy and leaves more room for future options than a stand like the Apex or Classic.
you can yes hope not too late
Wheel is by your knees! Because seat isnt designed to be raised. Wheel i guess at maximum. Issue with playseat cant get wheel to chest height and have it far enough away for a 6ft person. All rigs have this issue
Yes I know mate, that's the problem with adding motion platforms.
Does anyone know if this rig would be able to cope with the fanatec csl dd?
It will but being an entry level cockpit there is some flex and wobble.
Wouldnt the shifter be more stable from left to right if you took the hole on the far left?
I was planning to buy this, but I realized that I really need to get a handbrake apparatus, because a control on my wheel wasn't going to work at all while trying to perform handbrake turns. I'll wait until I feel better about the pieces I want to get. Is there a good recommended handbrake that works and won't break the bank like the TSSH does?
Sadly no and the TSSH is also not great for it's price IMO, far too soft.
Hi mate do you still do the link for discount for gt omega?
Yes mate KG5
@@KarlGosling cheers mate I’m liking the videos by the way helped me out a lot 👍🏻
I got a second handed ART and it lacks some features compared to the one that Karl is reviewing in this video. For instance, mine does not have the holes to bolt the lower end of the pedal plate, you have to secure it using ties or brackets, but it is not very sturdy (still have to try it with the new fanatec load cell pedal). I Bought it because of this review, but it seems I got an older version of the rig...
Or possibly a cheap copy, there's plenty out there on ebay and Amazon.
@@KarlGosling I think it is legit, I bought it from an acquaintamce that got it imported to Spain from the UK years ago. Anyway it may be a copy, though it is quite rigid all around.
PS: another difference: the wheel plate is not pre-drilled for my Fanatec CSL Elite.
Thanks for your answer!
Would love to see how you stiffened it up, just about to buy one these!
Video coming Friday mate.
@@KarlGosling Can't wait! Bought the ART using your link :) Thank you for the great content.
Hiya Karl! Will the fanatec handbrake go onto the shifter mount on this no problem?
I don't know mate sorry.
@Karl Gosling no worries mate found out they sell an art handbrake mount £35 so sorts that!
Just ordered with your code 🔥
Excellent mate, enjoy!
Hi Karl. This vid tipped me over the edge to get the ART. Built it up over the last couple of nights. Question - what bolts do I need to attach a G920?? Nothing in the box, so assume I need to sort myself. Believe it's an M6 bolt, but unsure on length. Any ideas??
I think M6 x 20mm should be ok mate.
@@KarlGosling Cheers mate. Just noticed a few M6 sized ones in the bag for the shifter attachment. Hopefully use those whilst I decide if I'm going to attach the shifter mount👍
Im currently using just my desk and mounted my pedals onto a board thats up against the wall.. Sometimes it feels good, sometimes absolutely not. Id like something like this but the 1 problem I got is monitor setup. Im a regular gamer aswell as a race gamer. Aaaaaaah why does this have to be my hobby....
Thise 2 metal bars holding holding the pedal plat up, did those come standard? Because all I got was velcro straps to go around a bar.
Yes mate.
@@KarlGosling well.... shyte..... lol.
Thanks for the review. I was wondering of there is any chance for you to review the Spectre Carbon from SpectreForm. It looks cheap (and is very cheap), and the "seat" is laughable compared to your proper seat, but the manufacturer and the (very few) reviews I found claim no flex whatsoever
I'll look it up mate.
Hello Karl I was looking at this seat I have a g29 at moment is it available to purchase a plate to fit thrusstmaster base at a later stage when I upgrade? Ty
The plate has pre drilled holes for most wheels on the market so it will probably fit if your wheel can be hard mounted
I think its time for a simlab rig review!!
Excellent review
Thank you! Cheers!
I want to buy this cockpit but the ones with the seats are sold out. Any seat suggestion that will fit the gt omega art frame and is comparable to the rs9?
Nevermind i used your link and i bought the gt omega frame the i was able to go to seats and they were in stock by themselves. Idk i guess they spotted so many with the seat frame combo . Anyways, love your videos and your reviews are very informative
Alright mate. Just bought the ART. Made a bit of a balls up, thought I would be able to mount my GT Omega office chair but the holes don't line up. Just wondering if you knew of a way to mod it so I can mount it or if there is another seat that's easy to mount other than the official Omega offerings. Trying to save a few notes if possible. Cheers for any help you can provide. 👍
Sorry mate I've never had to do this.
Go to the local Home repair store and buy a 2'x2' piece of either 1/2" or 3/4" plywood and make an adapter plate. Also if you wanted better in rig adjustment you can go on like Amazon and order seat slider rail assemblies for $35-$40 dollars which will allow backward and forward seat adjustment. This and a few bolts and washers and you will be in business.
Add in some black spray paint and it will not even be noticed overall and you can still use your gaming chair for a seat.
hi Im looking a the basic one of these. do you know if it comes with a slider for the seat.. is it easy to adjust if different size people using it.. thanks
The basic one mate? There is only one ART cockpit, but it's the seat that comes with sliders not the cockpit itself.
@@KarlGosling sorry mean not getting the motion movement with it.. Can you adjust things eaaily for different size people using it.. Thanks for the reply and the great review of it.. Its a big help
hi there, can i mount a moza R9 on the plate?
Just wondering what your daily driver seat is?
GT Omega RS12
@@KarlGosling thank you. I’m waiting for the prime to come back in stock in the us. To finish my sim rig. Really appreciate your videos!
Karl, can you please link me the ipad monitor holder!
I bought it years ago mate so don't can't remember what it was called sorry.
@@KarlGosling Gutted! No worries mate. Thanks for the cool content
I have the GT Omega classic wheel stand which if I'm correct is the front half of this rig? If I get the rear seat frame and XL RS seat would this be ok for the CSL DD with Boost kit I have coming in November?
It's very similar but not exactly the same, there are no uprights for a monitor mount and the pedal tray differs too, overall it has a fair bit more wobble/flex than the ART which in itself has enough.
Adding the rear half and a seat will give you a full cockpit but I'd recommend bracing the front half to reduce flex.
Recently got into Sim racing using my Thrustmaster T300RSGT clamped to my desk but looking for a reasonably priced cockpit... Shame this one is out of stock and nowhere on earth has them because your review has sold me 😢
So hard to get anything right now mate :(