When I was in the Swedish army many many years ago I was issued the stainless steel version of this kit. Inside the kit we put the fuel bottle, the burner (in a sealed plastic bag to avoid leakage), the kåsa cup, the cutlery set and a box of matches. It all fit inside the kit so we had everything at the same place. Somewhere we also put the army issued can opener which is a small flat rectangular sheet metal piece with a fold out knife. Perhaps we put that as well inside the kit but I do not quite remember as it was a long time ago. To make it all fit you can put the burner inside the kåsa cup.
I have this kit in stainless and its the best kit I have ever owned. Truly a jewel of a kit in stainless and if you can find one, you've found a diamond.
I have used the Swedish Army burners for about 10 years now. I always let the alcohol burn out and have never had an issue with the stove being damaged nor the lid getting cracked. I think the lids crack when it is screwed on while the unit is still hot & when it cools it pulls the lid down even tighter resulting in a stress crack. FYI I forgot to mention to you that in cold weather to put some extra alcohol on the outside rim to aid in achieving a blossom much quicker.
I've been using two of these for more than 20 years and we commonly use wood fires inside that windscreen without any ill effect The key is to take a small soup can or spaghetti sauce can and cut it off to where it is 1 and 1/2 in tall or maybe 2 in tall and build small fires with twigs pieces of pine cone or pieces of bark as fuel The flame is kept small enough to not cause damage to the apparatus but provides plenty of heat to cook your food and you don't have to buy alcohol nor do you have to worry about transporting it and the associated leaks that come along with transporting liquid fuel
Hey, I've seen somebodt build a fire inside the windshield, but the whole thing turned completely white and we were afraid it was going to melt. Using this method seems a good idea! Is the black paint still on your windscreen after doing this?
Great kit. Have used them for years now. I use a Yugoslavian mess set for solo trips with esbit cooker and fire rope, but the Sweedish for larger groups. The Swedish kit is made from the thickest aluminium of all the other mess sets of similar design that I have found. One mod I made was with a dremil, i cut an old brake disk from my cycle to fit inside windshield and I can fit an espresso pot in the windshield for coffee.
I have four of those bottles for fuel. I like them. As for fuel itself. I use Denatured Alcohol. No water needed. It does not soot up your pots. I have one of those big burners some where, but no cook kit for it. P.S. the snuffing lid for the normal Trangia, works just fine on the bigger burner.
That kit looks like it could be great for a couple of campers (or more). I usually go out alone. I have the Trangia 27 and it does an amazing job even in cold weather. Thanks for your video.
I have one of these kits and they do work great. I run out of fuel one time and just started a small fire, put the wind break over the fire and used the big pot to boil water and it worked the same as if I had used the stove.
I have seen a million of the aluminum ones and only one stainless at the military shows, I picked up the stainless one even though it was a mess. Took a lot of elbow grease to finally clean all the crud off it but now it shines like new. A bit heavy but it really is the best cookset I have.
Great review, Paul. I use the same kit for a good 10 years. My burner's lid has some 10 cracks all around, but the O ring seals the burner holes correctly, not any spill either. (I made the same mistake and put the lid back when burner was still hot. ) To help quicker priming in cold weather, I pour some alcohol in the circular groove around the neck and lit it. This warms up the neck faster and helps blooming the flames in the outer holes.
The King of all mess Kit´s. The Nickname for it in The Swedish Army is "dirtycan". They soldiers use to call it that due to the smell from them, when they have not been washed good and started to smell in the rucksack :) In the wintertime, tha burner can be hard to start, but the trick is to pre-heat it by poring some alcohole on the surface of it and put it on fire. The burner will get warm in an instant and you use it. BE sure that the flames on top is out before you fill the burner ! I cooked in mine,boiled water in it, baked in it, fried in it and steamed my food with it. I actually once used it to dig a "foxhole" since I have lost my spade to dig. I Still use the same "dirtycan" since 1991 (I stole it with me) Nowdays we have a new version, a "multiburner" for petrolium and alcohole or gas. Not the same thing, so Im keeping mine :)
Can any of you Swedes please tell me if these Mess Kits had any particular Pouch for storing them OR did they fit a pouch of the LK35 backpack etc. I am trying to find a suitable pouch/bag where the Mess Kit will fit into. Thank you.
Another great video. Thanks, Paul. I have finally bought my first real Trangia, a 27 UL HA - it should arrive tomorrow. I have had a few knock-off burners over the years but finally resolved to buy the real gear. If I ever get to venture to the UK I hope we can pull up in the bush somewhere and share a brew.
Good video review & 1st time using it. I get some strange looks using my M44 (aluminium version) here in Australia. Great kit for motorcycle touring. Thank you for sharing 👍
I love my Swedish mess kit. Been using it for over a decade. What I've found is I can just toss the lid on the stove, it immediately puts the flame out. I then take the lid right back off and let the stove cool. No need to remove the O-ring.
Hi Paul. Had one of these for two or three years. Love it! Plenty of room in the pot for a brew kit, fire lighting gear, folding spoon, scourer and Squezy, and more... I've just bought a Trangia 25-2 and your recommended gas upgrade, as a companion set. Not used it in anger yet. Considering the size of it, there's bugger all room left after I've filled the kettle with the spirit and gas burners. No room for fuel... :o( BTW, the small Trangia snuffer/simmer ring does fit on the military burner, which is nice. ;o)
I have an old 25 series i keep meaning to take out, i had to cut a hole in the lower windshield to get the gas adaptor fitted. It was my first trangia :) I was thinking about using the small trangia spirit burner with the Army kit. I need to do tests to see if there will be enough fuel to boil a full pot.
I have a Tatonka stainless steel simmer ring/ snuffer for my military trangia burner. A better fit than the ring for the smaller burner. Also I've read somewhere, that pouring the fuel into the groove that runs around the top of the reservoir ( both burners) and igniting, the burner will prime quicker. Cheers. atb. Nigel.
Nice video and a nice kit I have a few of them my self.I finde it much easier to light it if I carry both the burner and the fuel in my pocket so both the burner and the fuel is warm. I have noticed that i get a little less soot if I wait so the burner is hot so it burning in the "jets". So take the time and wait for the burner to light up completly and carry the burner and fuel close to your body. Once during my military service we got kerosene instead of ethanol, that was hard to light. But with a litle stick as a wick in the burner I got my food warm and so much soot at the pot that it felt like like I have to clean it for the rest of my military service.
Good tip on keeping the burner and fuel warm with body temp. I do usually let the jets bloom out, but in cold conditions i think about capturing as much heat as possible. With a little water in the meths you don't get soot on the pot. I have used nail varnish remover before it soots up the burner and pot. Thanks for the info :)
Hiya Paul. Just subbed. Really enjoyed this video. I just ordered a proper Trangia, my Hikeman is good, so looking fwd a test. In time i hope to get the full kit. Take care. Bri 👍
That's what I have Paul I've got the east German mess kit and cooker as well which is very similar.ive had them 20 years they are bombproof.i have the original cup and knife fork spoon set which all nest inside the triangia.with fuel bottle and burner and fire steel.i put cuppa soups in as well for fishing trips so it's all self containedcomes in a belt pouch brilliant bit of kit good review as always mate ps if you want anything bulky or heavy from millitery mart there only 5 mins from me an have some great stuff I could drop f when down your way as long as you not in big rush like cheers des.
That's a nice kit I am new here and you were recamended by Kent survival he was talking about the newer kits they are very compact kits and very portable. Thanks again Kyle
Nice thanks. FYI if you but the Tatonka stanless steel flame adjuster. It will fit on the military traniga to adjust and snuff out the flame. It will also still fit on the trangia when the main lid is attached for transportation.
Great bit of kit. I have both steel and ali versions. The steel one takes a lot longer to get going so I mainly use the ali. The splits in the lid are there by design - I'm guessing that they help the lid come off in some way - I have often left fuel in mine and it doesn't leak. The fuel bottle is leak proof too so I've never felt the need to put them in bags. It's worth getting a spare fuel bottle for longer trips. The clear fuel is bioethanol, a brand I use is EkoFuel and much nicer to use that meths.
Negative. The cracks in the lid are not there by design, but a rather common occurrence with well used burners/lids. It does not harm the performance of the equipment at least as long as you don't store fuel in the burner though.
Probably not my place to say anything, but am going to anyways. Do you realize how much healthier and in shape you are compared to your first videos? Keep up the hiking and great work.
Good bit of kit Paul. I am lucky to have a stainless steel version. There is a better way to light them though Paul. The chaps in the Swedish army will use these burners at minus 35 Celcius. Sandy
The stainless steel ones are very rare as you know. I have ordered my own now, Ally like Dave's. I added water to my meths to stop sooting and it makes it harder to light. I should have primed it to warm it up first. Thanks for the comment Sandy, me old Stovaholic ;)
This weekend I was in Lillehammer in Norway and I had the opportunity to do a little test of the army stove in a little colder temperature, -19 degrees Celsius. As I mention in an other message I store the fuel and the burner in my pocket close to the body (that's how we learned it in the army). There was absolutely no problem to get the burner on fire, one match was all that was needed. About 20 minutes later the water was boiling, about a half liter of pretty cold water. The biggest problem was to handle the stove with bare hands. I tried to film it with my mobile phone but the battery went from 100 to 1 percent in about five minutes . In -19 degrees it is cold without gloves fiddling with the phone and all the pieces to the stove . Another little problem I had was that the burner melted the snow underneath it and sank some centimeters, I guess it could be one of the reasons why it took so long time to get the water to boil and the cold weather of course . Yesterday I used the stove in a little warmer conditions -7 degrees Celsius, much easier to get boiling water for the coffee. Good luck with your Swedish army stove. Atb from Sweden
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I have one of these awesome bits of kit but I wouldn’t recommend building a fire inside the windshield as it gets very hot and it warps it but iv used it as an oven and made some lovely one pot meals. For the people who haven’t got one get one well you can. Wouldn’t mind a stainless steel one. Thanks for the great reviews
No thankyou for your videos paul I’ve taken a lot from them I even treated myself to the trangia 24 set because of your video what a bargain. Keep up the good work
you have a new version buddy. Mine is from 1952 - there isnt a hole in the bottom of the wind shield, mine also came with the shaped cup, and spork. You missed the hook - this system is designed to be used with no fuel - the hook is to hang over an open fire. Also, the wind shield can stub out the flame in the burner.
hi Paul I am new to bushcraft and survival would you recommend any courses that teach the skills I need to survive in the wilderness I have watched lots of vids by funky and others but I feel I would prefer to attend a survival and bushcraft course to learn how to survive in the wilds if the sh1t hits the fan and I have to bug out of town, love your vids especially your kit reviews because you don't just say what you can do with it you actually use it how it should be used and thanks to your vid on the survival knife I purchased one so keep up the great work. cheers Phil
Thanks Phil, I can only suggest that you look for a course on the internet in your area. I'm sure there will be one that suits you :) all the best Phil
Just found your channel Paul and enjoying it thanks. If just cooking for yourself and you had to choose between the Swedish army cook set or the Trangia 27 and putting aside the cost to buy, what would you choose and why? Thanks
Glad you like the channel, I would choose the Trangia 27 set. It has the gas adapter and billy can upgrades that make it the ultimate cook set ;) Throw in a Trangia triangle and you have a mobile kitchen.
Thanks Paul. I deliberately didn't say I already have a Miltary set so I would get an unbiased answer. I bought it for £3 on a car boot sale and so far only used it for a brew. Thanks to your cooking vids I want to go out and do some cooking but I thought the 27 set might be a better all rounder. Don't want to keep amassing more kit so wondered about selling the Military and buying the 27 even though financially it makes no sense.
There are genuine new old stock aluminum Swedish mess kits on Ebay right now for around $70 or so. The stainless are all used and are double in price but virtually bulletproof.
@@PaulBissekerBushcraft I got the Aluminum one from 1968 with the windshield burner and fuel bottle. looks like a regular sterno can can fit in the windshield as well.
But they weren’t made by Trangia usually, SVEA made most of them, I have 5 SVEA burners to 2 made by Trangia. Trangia made some of the burners, but not the rest of the mess kit.
How come your meths is purple, I didn’t know you could get clear, where did you get it from, if you don’t mind me asking? Ah, just got to the bit where you said it’s Dave’s. Do you know where he got it from?
SVEA was kind of a joint venture. The burners were from three different manufacturers. Stamped with SVEA, Trangia or (I think) Eskiltuna ... It is a military design - not at all made by Trangia as such. The rest of the kitchen parts is mostly stamped SVEA and with three crowns and year of manufacture NC"xx".
In conclusion, bioethanol fuel is a safe fuel to use, especially when compared to standard gas burning fireplaces and woodburning fireplaces. It emits no smoke or particles, just trace amounts of carbon dioxide that are no threat to you or your family.
Lightweight is the point of aluminum I understand that but I do not enjoy cooking or eating out of same. Prefer enamel steel or stainless even though heavier they cook better and much stronger.
Good question. I have heard of others just letting it burn dry so you don't contaminate the aluminum pots. I let my normal Trangia burner go dry all the time. Same as with my other burners. When I am cooking a full meal, I often run it out and have to refill.
It is my understanding that heat from the burner goes into converting the liquid into gas. When the fuel goes dry that excess energy goes into the burner causing extra expansion and contraction and breaking the seals. I let mine burn out often. By putting it out early you still loose fuel in the form of gas in my opinion. I only use my a couple times a year and never had issues. If you used one everyday 3 times for a year or more you may ruin it. I think of it as do I want to spend money buying a new burner or more fuel? Since fuel is cheap and my trangia burner is 20 + years old I don't really worry at all about it at all.
@@drewhobbs6837 I can see that. However, my reason for letting them burn dry is to absolutely prevent alcohol contamination of my pack. I have had it leak when I was saving a few pennies of alcohol. The result was a mess and the scent of alcohol was on everything for the whole trip. I was a walking torch - lacking only a spark. IF, after several years the burner leaks too much (it would have to have a serious leak if it affected burning), I will seal it with solder like Fireboxstove does... or just get another one.
@@newbievloggerandphotograph2438 that is a good reason. I typically will store my burner in a platic zip loc bag. I have had worse luck with my make shift fuel bottles early on then I have had with the stove leaking. Either way your right that you don't want fuel spilling in your cook pots or gear.
Just bought one of these from the Northeast bushcraft meet for £10 great review I'm gonna try it today and do my own review hopefully.....atb BIGMAN01 bushcraft also I have just subscribed to your channel keep the videos coming
How did it fit on your belt? I asked this question of another reply above. Can any of you Swedes please tell me if these Mess Kits had any particular Pouch for storing them OR did they fit a pouch of the LK35 backpack etc. I am trying to find a suitable pouch/bag where the Mess Kit will fit into. Thank you.
@@afternoobtea914 Thank you for your reply, but if no Pouch then how did it fit on your belt, the handle does not lock so I cannot workout how anyone, the Poles, the Czechs, East Germans etc. carried these Mess Kits as they're all similar in shape and size. I am making my own pouch just to stop the black from the smoke getting onto other kit. Yes, the LK35 - they must be modifications that folk have added pouches to the sides of them nowadays.
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When I was in the Swedish army many many years ago I was issued the stainless steel version of this kit.
Inside the kit we put the fuel bottle, the burner (in a sealed plastic bag to avoid leakage), the kåsa cup, the cutlery set and a box of matches.
It all fit inside the kit so we had everything at the same place.
Somewhere we also put the army issued can opener which is a small flat rectangular sheet metal piece with a fold out knife.
Perhaps we put that as well inside the kit but I do not quite remember as it was a long time ago.
To make it all fit you can put the burner inside the kåsa cup.
Thanks for sharing 😎
I have this kit in stainless and its the best kit I have ever owned. Truly a jewel of a kit in stainless and if you can find one, you've found a diamond.
I have used the Swedish Army burners for about 10 years now. I always let the alcohol burn out and have never had an issue with the stove being damaged nor the lid getting cracked. I think the lids crack when it is screwed on while the unit is still hot & when it cools it pulls the lid down even tighter resulting in a stress crack. FYI I forgot to mention to you that in cold weather to put some extra alcohol on the outside rim to aid in achieving a blossom much quicker.
I've been using two of these for more than 20 years and we commonly use wood fires inside that windscreen without any ill effect
The key is to take a small soup can or spaghetti sauce can and cut it off to where it is 1 and 1/2 in tall or maybe 2 in tall and build small fires with twigs pieces of pine cone or pieces of bark as fuel
The flame is kept small enough to not cause damage to the apparatus but provides plenty of heat to cook your food and you don't have to buy alcohol nor do you have to worry about transporting it and the associated leaks that come along with transporting liquid fuel
Hey, I've seen somebodt build a fire inside the windshield, but the whole thing turned completely white and we were afraid it was going to melt. Using this method seems a good idea! Is the black paint still on your windscreen after doing this?
Great kit. Have used them for years now. I use a Yugoslavian mess set for solo trips with esbit cooker and fire rope, but the Sweedish for larger groups. The Swedish kit is made from the thickest aluminium of all the other mess sets of similar design that I have found. One mod I made was with a dremil, i cut an old brake disk from my cycle to fit inside windshield and I can fit an espresso pot in the windshield for coffee.
Nice mod Alastair. It's a very robust cooking system. I should use it more often ;)
I have four of those bottles for fuel. I like them. As for fuel itself. I use Denatured Alcohol. No water needed. It does not soot up your pots. I have one of those big burners some where, but no cook kit for it. P.S. the snuffing lid for the normal Trangia, works just fine on the bigger burner.
That kit looks like it could be great for a couple of campers (or more). I usually go out alone. I have the Trangia 27 and it does an amazing job even in cold weather. Thanks for your video.
I have one of these kits and they do work great. I run out of fuel one time and just started a small fire, put the wind break over the fire and used the big pot to boil water and it worked the same as if I had used the stove.
I have the stainless Trangia. Probably the best cook kit ever. Take care and God bless.
I have seen a million of the aluminum ones and only one stainless at the military shows, I picked up the stainless one even though it was a mess. Took a lot of elbow grease to finally clean all the crud off it but now it shines like new. A bit heavy but it really is the best cookset I have.
Great review, Paul. I use the same kit for a good 10 years. My burner's lid has some 10 cracks all around, but the O ring seals the burner holes correctly, not any spill either. (I made the same mistake and put the lid back when burner was still hot. ) To help quicker priming in cold weather, I pour some alcohol in the circular groove around the neck and lit it. This warms up the neck faster and helps blooming the flames in the outer holes.
The King of all mess Kit´s.
The Nickname for it in The Swedish Army is "dirtycan".
They soldiers use to call it that due to the smell from them,
when they have not been washed good and started to smell in the rucksack :)
In the wintertime, tha burner can be hard to start, but the trick is to
pre-heat it by poring some alcohole on the surface of it and put it on fire.
The burner will get warm in an instant and you use it.
BE sure that the flames on top is out before you fill the burner !
I cooked in mine,boiled water in it, baked in it, fried in it and steamed my food with it.
I actually once used it to dig a "foxhole" since I have lost my spade to dig.
I Still use the same "dirtycan" since 1991 (I stole it with me)
Nowdays we have a new version, a "multiburner" for petrolium and alcohole or gas.
Not the same thing, so Im keeping mine :)
Can any of you Swedes please tell me if these Mess Kits had any particular Pouch for storing them OR did they fit a pouch of the LK35 backpack etc. I am trying to find a suitable pouch/bag where the Mess Kit will fit into. Thank you.
@@RobertsBulgaria According to packing instructions for the LK35, they were stored inside the pack. So not in any specific pouch.
@@jonn3132 Thank you for the feedback.
Snuskburk for a snuskhummer 😂. I've got both stainless and Ali, and both LK 70 and 35.
You Swedes make some fantastic kit.
Another great video. Thanks, Paul. I have finally bought my first real Trangia, a 27 UL HA - it should arrive tomorrow. I have had a few knock-off burners over the years but finally resolved to buy the real gear. If I ever get to venture to the UK I hope we can pull up in the bush somewhere and share a brew.
I am sure you will love your 27 Series. Get the kettle on! Thanks Tony.
First visit to your channel. Good technical detail on a fine piece of BC gear. Very pleasantly surprised by the intro music. Nice work.
Good video review & 1st time using it. I get some strange looks using my M44 (aluminium version) here in Australia. Great kit for motorcycle touring. Thank you for sharing 👍
Thanks for the comment and watching. Happy moto camping.
I love my Swedish mess kit. Been using it for over a decade. What I've found is I can just toss the lid on the stove, it immediately puts the flame out. I then take the lid right back off and let the stove cool. No need to remove the O-ring.
Hi Paul. Had one of these for two or three years. Love it! Plenty of room in the pot for a brew kit, fire lighting gear, folding spoon, scourer and Squezy, and more... I've just bought a Trangia 25-2 and your recommended gas upgrade, as a companion set. Not used it in anger yet. Considering the size of it, there's bugger all room left after I've filled the kettle with the spirit and gas burners. No room for fuel... :o(
BTW, the small Trangia snuffer/simmer ring does fit on the military burner, which is nice. ;o)
I have an old 25 series i keep meaning to take out, i had to cut a hole in the lower windshield to get the gas adaptor fitted. It was my first trangia :) I was thinking about using the small trangia spirit burner with the Army kit. I need to do tests to see if there will be enough fuel to boil a full pot.
My understanding is that only the burner was by Trangia. The rest was contracted out to a couple of other manufacturers.
I have a Tatonka stainless steel simmer ring/ snuffer for my military trangia burner. A better fit than the ring for the smaller burner. Also I've read somewhere, that pouring the fuel into the groove that runs around the top of the reservoir ( both burners) and igniting, the burner will prime quicker.
Cheers. atb. Nigel.
nigel scotney Thanks Nigel, great advice ☺
Nice video and a nice kit I have a few of them my self.I finde it much easier to light it if I carry both the burner and the fuel in my pocket so both the burner and the fuel is warm. I have noticed that i get a little less soot if I wait so the burner is hot so it burning in the "jets". So take the time and wait for the burner to light up completly and carry the burner and fuel close to your body. Once during my military service we got kerosene instead of ethanol, that was hard to light. But with a litle stick as a wick in the burner I got my food warm and so much soot at the pot that it felt like like I have to clean it for the rest of my military service.
Good tip on keeping the burner and fuel warm with body temp. I do usually let the jets bloom out, but in cold conditions i think about capturing as much heat as possible. With a little water in the meths you don't get soot on the pot. I have used nail varnish remover before it soots up the burner and pot. Thanks for the info :)
Hiya Paul. Just subbed. Really enjoyed this video. I just ordered a proper Trangia, my Hikeman is good, so looking fwd a test. In time i hope to get the full kit. Take care. Bri 👍
That's what I have Paul I've got the east German mess kit and cooker as well which is very similar.ive had them 20 years they are bombproof.i have the original cup and knife fork spoon set which all nest inside the triangia.with fuel bottle and burner and fire steel.i put cuppa soups in as well for fishing trips so it's all self containedcomes in a belt pouch brilliant bit of kit good review as always mate ps if you want anything bulky or heavy from millitery mart there only 5 mins from me an have some great stuff I could drop f when down your way as long as you not in big rush like cheers des.
I like it. I was impressed with it too. Thanks for the offer Des, i will let you know if i buy anything large :)
I really enjoy your channel. The hiking shots at start of this vid were great. Excellent review of some quality gear! Thanks
Thanks Jeremy ;) I used to do hiking shots in the past, i do a few now and then :)
Nice little compact cooking set Paul. thanks for the review, have a great day my friend.
Thanks mate, you too.
That's a nice kit I am new here and you were recamended by Kent survival he was talking about the newer kits they are very compact kits and very portable. Thanks again Kyle
Nice thanks. FYI if you but the Tatonka stanless steel flame adjuster. It will fit on the military traniga to adjust and snuff out the flame. It will also still fit on the trangia when the main lid is attached for transportation.
Nice, informative video. Thanks for sharing.
Good honest review. Thanks, Paul and good luck.
Great bit of kit. I have both steel and ali versions. The steel one takes a lot longer to get going so I mainly use the ali. The splits in the lid are there by design - I'm guessing that they help the lid come off in some way - I have often left fuel in mine and it doesn't leak. The fuel bottle is leak proof too so I've never felt the need to put them in bags. It's worth getting a spare fuel bottle for longer trips. The clear fuel is bioethanol, a brand I use is EkoFuel and much nicer to use that meths.
Negative. The cracks in the lid are not there by design, but a rather common occurrence with well used burners/lids. It does not harm the performance of the equipment at least as long as you don't store fuel in the burner though.
Nice review Paul. Hope to see some Sunday cooking in it..atb
Sunday cooking is coming :)
Thanks for doing the review , gives me insight into what are the possibilities of outdoor cooking. :)
The only problem with outdoor cooking is wind really. Thanks for watching Terry.
great cookset mate i have had mine couple of years dont use it much but they are well made atb stuart
It's these videos that make you pull it out and use it :) Thanks for watching Stuart :)
I'm buying one :))) Awesome the same one you have Paul
Like the starting of your videos
Great Kit Paul,thanks for the review!
Probably not my place to say anything, but am going to anyways. Do you realize how much healthier and in shape you are compared to your first videos? Keep up the hiking and great work.
Thank you ;)
Nice kit good job 👌
Thank you... that was very interesting. Love my 'modern' #25 model version. So dependable.
Great video mate these sets are amazing 👍
Take care
Roo
Good bit of kit Paul. I am lucky to have a stainless steel version. There is a better way to light them though Paul. The chaps in the Swedish army will use these burners at minus 35 Celcius.
Sandy
The stainless steel ones are very rare as you know. I have ordered my own now, Ally like Dave's. I added water to my meths to stop sooting and it makes it harder to light. I should have primed it to warm it up first. Thanks for the comment Sandy, me old Stovaholic ;)
This weekend I was in Lillehammer in Norway and I had the opportunity to do a little test of the army stove in a little colder temperature, -19 degrees Celsius. As I mention in an other message I store the fuel and the burner in my pocket close to the body (that's how we learned it in the army).
There was absolutely no problem to get the burner on fire, one match was all that was needed. About 20 minutes later the water was boiling, about a half liter of pretty cold water. The biggest problem was to handle the stove with bare hands. I tried to film it with my mobile phone but the battery went from 100 to 1 percent in about five minutes . In -19 degrees it is cold without gloves fiddling with the phone and all the pieces to the stove . Another little problem I had was that the burner melted the snow underneath it and sank some centimeters, I guess it could be one of the reasons why it took so long time to get the water to boil and the cold weather of course . Yesterday I used the stove in a little warmer conditions -7 degrees Celsius, much easier to get boiling water for the coffee. Good luck with your Swedish army stove. Atb from Sweden
Thanks for sharing your experience. I hope it doesn't get that cold here ;) Happy New Year Sweden
Also known as "Snuskburken" :)
Thanks for the great review video. Subscribed.
great peace of kit
This version of canteen, is THE BEST in ALL World.. :-)
solid kit but versatile.. Army stuff always heavy .. room for a gas burner hose under there too maybe.
Larry Bees it is good gear
Military grade - bought from the cheapest supplier the gov could find.
Nice one Paul, always fancied one of these... might purchase now. Lee (Burton Outdoors)
It's a trangia you can't go wrong :)
Great bit of kit, really cheap in the UK too.
They are getting rare now, the original ones ;)
I have the older original stainless set with the Svea alcohol stove. Great set.
The stainless ones are very rare now
My lid cracked also in 3 places i think the brass is thinner in the army version Wonderful system thouigh
Great video mate
Great video, nice bit of kit that. Do you notice much 0f a difference in boil/cook times with water in the fuel? Cheers.
Nice review Paul. But gotta be honest i kept looking at your watch, looks nice mate
Lol thanks for watching. Link to the watch: www.wardow.com/uk/citizen-radio-controlled-promaster-super-skyhawk-radio-controlled-watch-silver-jy0020-64e.html?gclid=CjwKCAiA6qPRBRAkEiwAGw4SdsG6Br73sIxcZblzLS6tumsm_VjiSghifozW1A--MxhdLnJtgjH3ZhoChIsQAvD_BwE
Very detailed review!!! thanks, subbed
Thanks CJ
One of my first bits of kit as they were cheap, like £8 delivered from an army surplus store, seems they go for a lot more now.
Yeah they are getting rare.
I have one of these awesome bits of kit but I wouldn’t recommend building a fire inside the windshield as it gets very hot and it warps it but iv used it as an oven and made some lovely one pot meals. For the people who haven’t got one get one well you can. Wouldn’t mind a stainless steel one. Thanks for the great reviews
Thanks for watching Jack :)
No thankyou for your videos paul I’ve taken a lot from them I even treated myself to the trangia 24 set because of your video what a bargain. Keep up the good work
you have a new version buddy. Mine is from 1952 - there isnt a hole in the bottom of the wind shield, mine also came with the shaped cup, and spork. You missed the hook - this system is designed to be used with no fuel - the hook is to hang over an open fire. Also, the wind shield can stub out the flame in the burner.
Good info ;)
hi Paul I am new to bushcraft and survival would you recommend any courses that teach the skills I need to survive in the wilderness I have watched lots of vids by funky and others but I feel I would prefer to attend a survival and bushcraft course to learn how to survive in the wilds if the sh1t hits the fan and I have to bug out of town, love your vids especially your kit reviews because you don't just say what you can do with it you actually use it how it should be used and thanks to your vid on the survival knife I purchased one so keep up the great work.
cheers Phil
Thanks Phil, I can only suggest that you look for a course on the internet in your area. I'm sure there will be one that suits you :) all the best Phil
Take a trangia pan handle with you so that you can grip the hot windshield
Thanks
Just as you think he’s done revealing the features of this cookset they keep on coming. Myself I use a Trangia burner in a BCB MK2 crusader cooker.
Paul, What cracks the lid is over tightening, or putting the lid on while the burner is too hot.
Paul,
Nice music.
Phil Sheard,
Birmingham
Just found your channel Paul and enjoying it thanks. If just cooking for yourself and you had to choose between the Swedish army cook set or the Trangia 27 and putting aside the cost to buy, what would you choose and why? Thanks
Glad you like the channel, I would choose the Trangia 27 set. It has the gas adapter and billy can upgrades that make it the ultimate cook set ;) Throw in a Trangia triangle and you have a mobile kitchen.
Thanks Paul. I deliberately didn't say I already have a Miltary set so I would get an unbiased answer. I bought it for £3 on a car boot sale and so far only used it for a brew. Thanks to your cooking vids I want to go out and do some cooking but I thought the 27 set might be a better all rounder. Don't want to keep amassing more kit so wondered about selling the Military and buying the 27 even though financially it makes no sense.
You would get your money back and some. They are getting rare ;)
There are genuine new old stock aluminum Swedish mess kits on Ebay right now for around $70 or so. The stainless are all used and are double in price but virtually bulletproof.
I just found a SS one on there. $175 with postage for $32 and import tax $102. So $309 all in 😱 They are getting rare!
@@PaulBissekerBushcraft I got the Aluminum one from 1968 with the windshield burner and fuel bottle. looks like a regular sterno can can fit in the windshield as well.
Where do you find these awesome mess kits? Anywhere affordable?
nice kit ,i like it
So do i, ordered one yesterday ;)
there was a small leather belt that was issued, to stop it all clunking about, i made my own for mine, the old stuff is always the best.
Yeah the original belts are very hard to find these days. Making your own is the way to go.
I think that you turn the lid upside down to snuff it out..
Screwed my burner up by putting the lid on when it was hot. It never came off again
But they weren’t made by Trangia usually, SVEA made most of them, I have 5 SVEA burners to 2 made by Trangia. Trangia made some of the burners, but not the rest of the mess kit.
How come your meths is purple, I didn’t know you could get clear, where did you get it from, if you don’t mind me asking? Ah, just got to the bit where you said it’s Dave’s. Do you know where he got it from?
Meths in the UK is dyed purple it's standard everywhere here. www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=methulated+spirit&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
Its NOT from Trangia - its from SVEA...
SVEA was kind of a joint venture. The burners were from three different manufacturers. Stamped with SVEA, Trangia or (I think) Eskiltuna ... It is a military design - not at all made by Trangia as such. The rest of the kitchen parts is mostly stamped SVEA and with three crowns and year of manufacture NC"xx".
Got a repro by Mil-tec. No pouring handle, no D rings in the handle. WHY??
In conclusion, bioethanol fuel is a safe fuel to use, especially when compared to standard gas burning fireplaces and woodburning fireplaces. It emits no smoke or particles, just trace amounts of carbon dioxide that are no threat to you or your family.
Lightweight is the point of aluminum I understand that but I do not enjoy cooking or eating out of same. Prefer enamel steel or stainless even though heavier they cook better and much stronger.
It's good - i have one also.
I luvtrangia every day is a school day I have just lately let my fuel just burn out why is it bad for the unit like to learn thankyou
Good question. I have heard of others just letting it burn dry so you don't contaminate the aluminum pots. I let my normal Trangia burner go dry all the time. Same as with my other burners. When I am cooking a full meal, I often run it out and have to refill.
It is my understanding that heat from the burner goes into converting the liquid into gas. When the fuel goes dry that excess energy goes into the burner causing extra expansion and contraction and breaking the seals.
I let mine burn out often. By putting it out early you still loose fuel in the form of gas in my opinion. I only use my a couple times a year and never had issues. If you used one everyday 3 times for a year or more you may ruin it. I think of it as do I want to spend money buying a new burner or more fuel? Since fuel is cheap and my trangia burner is 20 + years old I don't really worry at all about it at all.
@@drewhobbs6837 I can see that. However, my reason for letting them burn dry is to absolutely prevent alcohol contamination of my pack. I have had it leak when I was saving a few pennies of alcohol. The result was a mess and the scent of alcohol was on everything for the whole trip. I was a walking torch - lacking only a spark. IF, after several years the burner leaks too much (it would have to have a serious leak if it affected burning), I will seal it with solder like Fireboxstove does... or just get another one.
@@newbievloggerandphotograph2438 that is a good reason. I typically will store my burner in a platic zip loc bag. I have had worse luck with my make shift fuel bottles early on then I have had with the stove leaking. Either way your right that you don't want fuel spilling in your cook pots or gear.
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Tell Dave to take out the rubber O ring and silver solder repair it!
Will do
@@PaulBissekerBushcraft Ifixed all of those but have a wicked crack on the inside of mine.
there should be a snuffer separate from the rubber ring tpper.
The military burner doesn't have one.
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Where can I get one
Ebay if you are lucky
Basically unobtainable, unless you're willing pay to INSANE prices, and that's IF you can find one for sale.
For stainless....aluminum is more readily available but still out of reach price wise.
Just bought one of these from the Northeast bushcraft meet for £10 great review I'm gonna try it today and do my own review hopefully.....atb BIGMAN01 bushcraft also I have just subscribed to your channel keep the videos coming
Ah, the old "snuskburk" (filthycan). Good cook set but terrible to wear on your belt as a soldier.
I'm sure it was ;)
How did it fit on your belt? I asked this question of another reply above. Can any of you Swedes please tell me if these Mess Kits had any particular Pouch for storing them OR did they fit a pouch of the LK35 backpack etc. I am trying to find a suitable pouch/bag where the Mess Kit will fit into. Thank you.
@@RobertsBulgaria No pouch that I can remember. The LK35 did not have any pouches. It was just a big bag with a steelframe.
@@afternoobtea914 Thank you for your reply, but if no Pouch then how did it fit on your belt, the handle does not lock so I cannot workout how anyone, the Poles, the Czechs, East Germans etc. carried these Mess Kits as they're all similar in shape and size. I am making my own pouch just to stop the black from the smoke getting onto other kit. Yes, the LK35 - they must be modifications that folk have added pouches to the sides of them nowadays.
Do you have any control over what ads play before your videos? I am tired of the communist democrats begging for money. It’s like from Dickens, can I have some more money sir? 😂