We were issued the steel version which is sturdier but heavier. We used to clean them with the pressure cleaners for our vehicles when we got back to the barracks.
Re the cup: hold it with your hand wrapped around the fat end with the thumb over the tab and drink from the small end. After you drink it's nice to cradle it in both hands to warm your hands. Switch back to the one hand grip to get your next sip.
I got the indestructable m/40 and love it, another tip for when using it on snow is to turn the windshield upside down and hang the burner on the 'metal legs' so its elevated off the snow ;) Also you can stack them, putting the pan on top of the pot to keep the pan warm, for example boiling rice in the bottom pot while keeping chilli sauce warm in the pan :)
I was stationed in then “ West “ Germany and spent lots of time in the woods. I. Bought mine in a surplus store in nurnburg . Best purchase I have ever made . Soups , stews , and when absolutely required even C -rations.
So West Germany isn’t West Germany anymore? Nuurnburg? Isn’t on a map of Germany. From what I can see. I think you may have made a mistake or two here. I know what you mean though.
Unlike, other TH-cam channels who say, "it's a good set(insert mess kit of European country of discussion here), go buy it," your history recap and demo of the useful built-in features, are beyond compare. "Oh no, my pot is hot, how will I grab it now?' LMAO! Dead.
@@Radoslaw731 You must understand that within The United States there are many different peoples with many different accents as you can imagine. You would not understand most southern people and most definitely Cajuns. Now if you would just work on your spelling lol.
Hi! Liked you video and I own a kit myself. I would just like to say that a more corekt translation of "snusk burken" would be "the filth jar". On the kåsa, the trick is to cup your hand under it and drink from one of the corners closest to the handle. This way you keep your hand warm ass well😉 Thanks fore your videos!
05:36. If you drink out of the end opposite to the handle, it doesn’t spill.😁. Plus, it’s nice to wrap your hand round it whilst holding the handle between your fingers, to warm your hand.
Modern travel mugs work just the same way. Don't HOLD the handle - slide your hand under it and wrap your hand around the mug with your THUMB clamped over the top of the handle. Try it - far more comfortable.
The D loops on the handle of the frypan was designed to fit the blade of the bayonet as the rigid support. Also the 'old style' military trangia burners do not burn as hot as their newer modern stoves. Just something to be aware of....
when nested the tip of the bail hook went into the 1st vent hole on the left bottom, the hook at its base engages the offset bend in the bail. a leather strap went around and passed thru the pot loop that goes thru the handle locking everything to gather.
The wind shield and burners and cups(of witch you had upside down in the pot) were added to the kit in the mid 50’s, originally you got the mess kit, a set of cutlery and that was your lot, they were originally designed to be used on field kitchen hot plates in the army and in the field if needs be... you loaded it up, put it on the hot plate and waited back at base. The windshield/burner/cup/salt-pepper saker were added to make it more versatile in the field... the stainless steel one-m40(witch has matching cutlery set) only had a 4 year run as they needed the raw materials for the war effort, hence the birth of the Aluminium version(the m44) 4 different companies were contracted to make the burners/wind shields...like you said trangia was just one of them👍 so when people say “swedish army trangia” its a bit😂 The reason the lids cracked are not due to over tightening it btw, or stubbing the burner, its because the lids are screwed on when the burners still warm witch creates a vacuum inside the burner witch pulls the lid down super tight on the threads... try it, even just warm then lightly screw the lid on and undo in a min or two... Just a few added bits for you buddy if your interested, i’m a fruit and nut military gear wise and own every set they made😂👍
I believe it was the other way around. The original version was intended to be made out of aluminium but when the war came, there was a aluminium shortage and everything went to the aircraft industry, so they made the mess kit out of steel. Something Sweden could produced easily. Later, after the war, they went back to aluminium again. The steel version hanged on for quite bit though, in the depot and guard units, where the alcohol stove wasn’t needed. For the rangers and more specialised units, a different mess kit was issued. One that could sustain a soldier for a longer period of time in the field. It had, besides the wind shield and the burner also two proper sauce pans and a frying pan as well as a plate or snow platform for the stove. The shape was also more conventionally round.
Good job, a well-researched video. The loop on the front of the larger pot takes a securing strap, some of the issue rucksacks, such as the M/35, have a stitched-in strap in the centre of the back designed to secure the snusburken. PS. Folks seem to go gaga about the stainless M/40, but it's a fact that alu is a far better heat conductor, and lighter to carry, so really I think the M/44 is the better version.
The more correct translation is actually "the filthy can". Everyone in my generation is familiar with it since we all did military service. I still use mine because it is so versatile. It was a horror carrying around though since we rangers had to carry it outside of the pack. First thing you didn't bring on a mission. Liked that you knew about the second notch on the handle.
it's a different translation. But dirty box is better because to native English speakers it better represents the spirt and tone of snuskburken. A native English speaker would find dirty box carries the implicit meaning of snuskburken far better than filthy can.
Greetings Gestur, I am Retired from the U.S. Army after having served 20 years. Like you I served with the Army Rangers (2 Battalion 75th Airborne Infantry ). Unfortunately I was medically retired due to injuries and wounds. Our mess kit was not near as good as yours as they held very little without spilling and next to impossible to cook in! During the Vietnam War (I was there 1970-72) they issued us C-Rations or also called “C-Rats”. They were canned meals that consisted of 3-4 cans and a foil packet all in a little box. If you wanted warm food you usually used hexamine fuel tablets or build a small fire ( NOT RECOMMENDED in field). They then came out with LRRPS ( pronounced “LURPS”) which were the dehydrated freeze dried meals (much better) which required water to rehydrate. Hot or warm water was better but cold water was all we were allowed on most mission. So by doing this the Army more or less did away with the need for mess kits on missions or patrols. They were used in garrison areas. Like yours they were still or could be “filthy cans” . By the way, as an American Indian, love your “Kokopelli “ “the Flute Player”. My son in law is Navajo and it is one of their deities. Take care from one Vet to another! Bob StrongBear
@@strongbear9304 Kokopelli is one of my favourite deities from original America. I like the story. I wrote Ranger because most people know what that is. We call it Jägare ("hunter") which is our name for it. All the best brother!
We had little spunges impregnated with detergent which we used to clean the "snuskburk". Also if we got food from the cooking detail instead of cooking our selves we used a 3 litre plastic bag to cover the frying pan which we used as a late. Then we did not have to clean at all. Sometimes we also used snow the do a rough cleaning of the biggeer sauspan.
Thank you very much for the presentation and description of the "M44"! In the meantime I have also acquired such a "miracle part". I also use a classic EBIT solid fuel stove. I got a TRANGIA27 cooking set especially for bushcraft events and for camping and larger tours and have also expanded and modified it! Tack igen och hälsningar från Tyskland!
I have both the M/40 and the M/44. Had the M/40 when i did my military service, i hated it. Now i love it. I always bring it when i go fishing, hunting, camping. It is well used, for decades, but doesn't have a single bump on it. My M/44 has never, ever been used.."factory new" :P
Swede here, i think the right translation should rather be dirty can, more than dirty box. Box in Swedish is ask or låda, but can is burk, and in Swedish ut called snuskburk. Btw i have the one and same aluminium version with the windshield and alcoholburner too
Translations should always be done by a native speaker that is a rule. You see Dirty Box in English means dirty vagina, dirty in this context meaning sexually adventurous and this makes it funny, since snusk in Swedish has a sexual vulgarity meaning, calling it dirty box keeps the sexual vulgarity in the translation. A correct direct word for word translation is not as effective as a translation of context and meaning keeping the humor of the soldiers that coined the phrase
i simple wire tooth brush does the bottom corner job good. these tooth brushes come in a number of different metals and plastics. some wood handles some plastic. even seen steel handles.
My biggest hiking gear regret was selling mine during a post divorce downsize. Have a 27 now, great bit of kit, but would happily trade it for another one of these.
The stainless steel ones certainly ARE heavy . . . a whacking 1.54kg or 3lbs 6oz including a full fuel bottle (put some cling film over the mouth to stop it leaking then screw the cap on) and the SEVA burner but not the cup (which I think is supposed to go in before everything else?) I'd heard they were hard to clean but have never had a problem with the steel version. An ex-Swedish army engineer told me he'd snap of a stick, hammer it into a brush at one end and use that to scrub/scrape right down to the bottom of the pan.
Self reliance outfitters has re-created the m40 in stainless with the windscreen also in stainless. It only has 3 pieces, no alcohol burner but they offer one for extra cash, no plastic cup, nor fuel bottle, nor utensils. It is reasonably priced. I got mine, waiting delivery. Very excited about it.
I just bought one off an outdoor shop, only the burner and meth bottle is genuine, no hoops on the handle and no hook on the main handle, ebay now me thinks for genuine parts to make it complete, loving your channel btw, I'm a complete skandiphile if that's a word 😀
Cut a disk out of an old rubber mouse pad and glue it to the inside of the cap. The rubber foam compresses when you put the cap on and presto- no more leaks.
I use a US/NATO cups canteen I liberated when I was in the Army. Cleaning? I used to use issue scotchbrite pad. Tried a brush. Now eat. Bit of water in boil let it set. Over to puddle stream whatevers handy. Mud sand scrub by blhand. Cant beat that as abreassive. Quick rinse shes clean burst of heat to kill any nastiel all good
Greetings Dave, Thank you for your informative video on the M40/44 Swedish mess kits. I was able to obtain one recently, a Model 44. After viewing your video, I have discovered that my “complete kit” is not complete and missing parts. Are you still able to obtain these in Swedish Military Surplus stores? I would love to find a complete stainless steel kit in very good to good condition. If you or anyone watching this could assist I would be grateful and of course you or them compensated for the purchase, shipping, and their time or possibly even a trade for U.S. Military gear they might need or want. Thanks again, take care, Bob StrongBear ( U.S. Army Retired)
@@Jonsson474 OKAY, I think I’ve been “taken”. I finally was able to sit down for a while and compare the “Swedish Mess Kit” that I purchased from eBay with the video, and the two don’t match. The Wind shield appears correct. The Spirit Bottle appears to be correct with the three crowns on it as does the brass Trangia Stove (Spirit Burner). The cook set is missing the cup. The Mess kit is NOT Oval shaped like the Wind Shield but rather it is “ Kidney Shaped” and it has a Square Bale with a notch dead center and no other notch. Also it is missing the hook on the bale. The sauce pan has only One loop (to put a non conductive handle{stick} into it and it does not appear to be made for that purpose. It actually appears to be made to accept a strap to secure the kit. The Large vessel besides missing the correct bale and hook is also missing the loop where the hook would go to make the three point carrying handle. The handle on the Sauce Pan has no opening for the loop that is supposed to be found on the Large vessel. Neither the Sauce Pan or the Large Vessel has any markings on them. After doing a little more research, it appears that the Polish Company that I purchased the “Genuine Swedish Army Trangia SVEA Stove Camping Cooker Spirit Burner & Mess Kit” used a genuine Wind Shield, Trangia Stove, and Alcohol fuel Bottle and put a Polish Army Mess Kit with it! UNLESS The Swedish Army changed Mess kits. What do you think? All I know is that this is not what I thought I was ordering. Yes, if you can assist me or if you have any ideas as to how I can obtain the correct kit, I would be very Thankful. Respectfully, Bob StrongBear
@@verysurvival , Hi Dave, I thought that I was replying to you and listed what I found. It is the reply to the other reply to me, Thanks, Bob StrongBear
@@strongbear9304 Yes, It sounds like they’ve put the polish mess kit in the Swedish wind shield. I’ll get back to you later with some links to original parts. Also, check the stove. It should have the three crowns stamped on the bottom. Another tell is the size. The military alcohol burner is almost twice the size of the civilian version. There is also an indentation on top of the container to burn fuel in in order to preheat the burner during cold weather.
I really think this lunch box is too creative, it is really very powerful to design this kind of lunch box, I really want to buy one, but not on Amazon, I am here in China, how can I buy the genuine copy?
Nicely done,great history about this mess tin. Many mess tins from that area are pretty equal imo,some are better thought out in design But generally they had the same look Stay safe my friend
Watch out, the cooking "pot" has a very thin bottom. Will easily damage or can even perforate, if placed "quickly" over a rock or floor when hot. The alcohol burner is to big, to powerful. You cannot low the flame and you need to lift the hot "wind shield" to turn`t off. I also tried make a small fire inside and use small twigs, it works, but is not made for it.
Have the stainless version. Look on the bottom of the burner/stove because some are made by Svea, mine is. Never had any problem drinking from the cup. The cup is also good as a small bowl
svea is not a company, svea is the name of the country sweden. as far as i know, all of the military burners are stamped svea, i have never seen a military burner stamped trangia. it's the same with united states military gear, it's all stamped 'us' and sometimes also has the manufacturer's name but not always.
@@marzsit9833 Not wanting to get into a debate but say you are correct in Svea is not a company but as I understand is rather a brand name owned by Optimus. My burner has the 3 crowns indicating Swedish issue ( ie. like US indicating USGI), below it model # and then manufacture mark "SVEA".
@@marzsit9833 I have the complete kit minus the meths bottle. It has the original military burner which has the three crowns on the bottom and also says "Trangia:!
These kits are great. Have you tried using the kuksa with the handle pointing away from you and drinking from the pointed end of the “egg”? I notice yours has a flat bottom. Mine are all rounded.
Does the 1985 Polish Mess Kit nest inside the Swedish Wind screen stove? Just purchased these separately on ebay for a really good price and am hoping they nest together.
Good question. I don’t have them with me to test. But I am gonna guess that yes they do. They are really cheap so if you try it you and it doesn’t work it’s no big deal
@@verysurvival UPDATE - I bought some genuine Trangia o-rings from Amazon. They appear to fit the Army burner just fine, but I haven't done a thorough leak test just yet. I'll post my results once I have.
UPDATE #2 - EDITED - I had mixed results. The commercial o-rings fit the military burner lids, but aren't as tight as they could be. I had one fall out when I opened the burner. As I was working in low light, I didn't see the escaped o-ring sitting on top of the Trangia as I lit it. The o-ring caught fire, reeked pretty badly, and left a sooty mess on the bottom of my stainless Swedish Mess Kit pan. The commercial o-rings seem to do an adequate job of preventing leaks. Still, it's probably best to seal one's Army burner in a plastic bag so as not to ruin the taste of food cooked in the Swedish Mess Kit. Your mileage may vary, but I would say the commercially available Trangia o-rings WILL work with the Army burner. Just keep an eye out for runaway o-rings when you open the burner.
Just right for a "Billy Boil" ! But, why no matches? Or some other way to light the burner up? You can cook up even a tiny bit of "Wallaby stew" with no way to light the burner!!!!
It is not recommended to use aluminum canisters because aluminum, which causes Alzheimer's disease, can be leached into food during high-temperature heat cooking. Aluminum leach occurs mainly during grilling. I think it would be better to use a titanium product that is popular these days rather than a aluminium military canteen.
I have the steel version, I don't like to cook with aluminum. The fuel bottle sprung a leak, a stainless hip flask works better. The brass alcohol stove has heated water for morning coffee when nothing else would light.
Thanks for the video. 🇬🇧✌ have used my steel version often on my travels. I hear ut has also been nicknamed the 'soot pot' by Swedish soldiers as like any mess kit used over most types of fire, residue will build up. But the steel cleans up well when needed and it's a well thought out system. (Will be cooking mussels in it this week on a trip away in fact.)
I have one, but it's steel and heavy, Weighs almost 4 lb. Aluminium maybe better, lighter I think! All though, Al is not really recommended for cooking. 🤔
if a mug has a special place to drink out of it, that kinda proves my point. can't beat a round mug, its an amazing invention any part of it can be used ;-)
@@verysurvival Just trying to help. Anyway, a round mug with the same volume wouldn't have been able to fit into the mess kit, so you've got to prioritize, I guess.
Nice informative video, mate! I got a Swedish mess kit, that states Norge (Norway), which is very odd. I'm looking for people who know more about that. I got a video on my channel (currently the only one). Cheers!
i have an m-44 aluminum version, i only use it for boiling water or heating up soups on car-camping trips as an extra stove, it's too heavy and bulky for anything else really. i got mine for $20 usd years ago before the prices went insane, i really don't understand why people go absolutely nutso for these and are willing to pay ridiculous amounts of money for them thinking they are the best cooking system ever invented. i'm not saying it's a bad set, it's just not worth what people think it's worth.
Bella spirgazione per quanto riguarda gli anni di fabbricazione,ma non ti è ben chiaro il suo uso per cucinare:Il recippiente grande serve unicamente pper scaldare l'acqua,èil piccolo che riceve la razione da scaldare a bagno maria mettendolo sul grande,dopo di che si lava il contenitore piccolo con l'acquua bollente della pentola grande.
Humble Trekker it was a perfect storm of the surplus supply drying up just as the world’s bushcraft community got the word they were out there. I got my pair of stainless steel models for $5 apiece. I think that is under their value for sure. Now I could probably sell them and buy a car!
The surplus market was quite good in the late 90s-00s. Expansion of Bushcraft and Preparedness communities online and a change in equipment of militaries dried up the market. I wish I could find a decent GI style poncho that was milspec. MRE style meals killed the need to issue mess kits. Militaries tend not to issue canteens much anymore, let alone sets because of CamelBak style bladders.
the survivalist gun nut retards in the usa discovered them and now they are in very high demand. the anti-aluminum nuts really drove up the price of the stainless version, i've seen some sell for over $200 us dollars on ebay.
gross, just because you are camping doesn't mean you have to become a cave man. A brush or sponge weighs a few grams and should be in every camping kit.
We were issued the steel version which is sturdier but heavier. We used to clean them with the pressure cleaners for our vehicles when we got back to the barracks.
Lol . That’s a good story .
Re the cup: hold it with your hand wrapped around the fat end with the thumb over the tab and drink from the small end. After you drink it's nice to cradle it in both hands to warm your hands. Switch back to the one hand grip to get your next sip.
I got the indestructable m/40 and love it, another tip for when using it on snow is to turn the windshield upside down and hang the burner on the 'metal legs' so its elevated off the snow ;)
Also you can stack them, putting the pan on top of the pot to keep the pan warm, for example boiling rice in the bottom pot while keeping chilli sauce warm in the pan :)
Yeah, turn it upside down and hang the burner. We used to do that too.
I was stationed in then “ West “ Germany and spent lots of time in the woods. I. Bought mine in a surplus store in nurnburg . Best purchase I have ever made . Soups , stews , and when absolutely required even C -rations.
So West Germany isn’t West Germany anymore? Nuurnburg? Isn’t on a map of Germany. From what I can see. I think you may have made a mistake or two here. I know what you mean though.
@@jimbojet8728could it be Nuremberg?
I bought the Stainless Steel version about 14 years ago. It is a little heavy but it's my go to kit for car camping.
awesome mate
Unlike, other TH-cam channels who say, "it's a good set(insert mess kit of European country of discussion here), go buy it," your history recap and demo of the useful built-in features, are beyond compare. "Oh no, my pot is hot, how will I grab it now?' LMAO! Dead.
I got the stainless version as I never learned how to pronounce aluminum. It's really a great set.
I am Polish and can prenounce better English then most Americans 😅😁becouse i learn English for a very long time 😎
@@Radoslaw731 You must understand that within The United States there are many different peoples with many different accents as you can imagine. You would not understand most southern people and most definitely Cajuns. Now if you would just work on your spelling lol.
Aluminium isn’t pronounced or even written in the same way in the US as the rest of the English speaking world.
@@buckshot4428 Try to understand Boston,Mass accent!
@@buckshot4428Oh THANK-YOU!!! At long last somebody who isn't too damn' woke to haul somebody up on their spelling!
Hi! Liked you video and I own a kit myself. I would just like to say that a more corekt translation of "snusk burken" would be "the filth jar".
On the kåsa, the trick is to cup your hand under it and drink from one of the corners closest to the handle. This way you keep your hand warm ass well😉
Thanks fore your videos!
In English... grot pot
05:36. If you drink out of the end opposite to the handle, it doesn’t spill.😁. Plus, it’s nice to wrap your hand round it whilst holding the handle between your fingers, to warm your hand.
Modern travel mugs work just the same way. Don't HOLD the handle - slide your hand under it and wrap your hand around the mug with your THUMB clamped over the top of the handle. Try it - far more comfortable.
The D loops on the handle of the frypan was designed to fit the blade of the bayonet as the rigid support. Also the 'old style' military trangia burners do not burn as hot as their newer modern stoves. Just something to be aware of....
when nested the tip of the bail hook went into the 1st vent hole on the left bottom, the hook at its base engages the offset bend in the bail.
a leather strap went around and passed thru the pot loop that goes thru the handle locking everything to gather.
Thanks for this clean presentation. I wonder why really didn't see any dirt in this kit.
because I have a dishwasher, and she takes care of it
@@verysurvival That's what i guessed so far :-)
This is great information I never knew before thank you!
I love mine. To make cleaning easier, I only boil water in the bottom. "Food" only goes in the top, which is far easier to clean.
Great tip!
The wind shield and burners and cups(of witch you had upside down in the pot) were added to the kit in the mid 50’s, originally you got the mess kit, a set of cutlery and that was your lot, they were originally designed to be used on field kitchen hot plates in the army and in the field if needs be... you loaded it up, put it on the hot plate and waited back at base. The windshield/burner/cup/salt-pepper saker were added to make it more versatile in the field... the stainless steel one-m40(witch has matching cutlery set) only had a 4 year run as they needed the raw materials for the war effort, hence the birth of the Aluminium version(the m44) 4 different companies were contracted to make the burners/wind shields...like you said trangia was just one of them👍 so when people say “swedish army trangia” its a bit😂
The reason the lids cracked are not due to over tightening it btw, or stubbing the burner, its because the lids are screwed on when the burners still warm witch creates a vacuum inside the burner witch pulls the lid down super tight on the threads... try it, even just warm then lightly screw the lid on and undo in a min or two...
Just a few added bits for you buddy if your interested, i’m a fruit and nut military gear wise and own every set they made😂👍
I believe it was the other way around. The original version was intended to be made out of aluminium but when the war came, there was a aluminium shortage and everything went to the aircraft industry, so they made the mess kit out of steel. Something Sweden could produced easily. Later, after the war, they went back to aluminium again. The steel version hanged on for quite bit though, in the depot and guard units, where the alcohol stove wasn’t needed. For the rangers and more specialised units, a different mess kit was issued. One that could sustain a soldier for a longer period of time in the field. It had, besides the wind shield and the burner also two proper sauce pans and a frying pan as well as a plate or snow platform for the stove. The shape was also more conventionally round.
Good job, a well-researched video. The loop on the front of the larger pot takes a securing strap, some of the issue rucksacks, such as the M/35, have a stitched-in strap in the centre of the back designed to secure the snusburken. PS. Folks seem to go gaga about the stainless M/40, but it's a fact that alu is a far better heat conductor, and lighter to carry, so really I think the M/44 is the better version.
Thanks for the info!
The more correct translation is actually "the filthy can". Everyone in my generation is familiar with it since we all did military service. I still use mine because it is so versatile. It was a horror carrying around though since we rangers had to carry it outside of the pack. First thing you didn't bring on a mission. Liked that you knew about the second notch on the handle.
it's a different translation. But dirty box is better because to native English speakers it better represents the spirt and tone of snuskburken. A native English speaker would find dirty box carries the implicit meaning of snuskburken far better than filthy can.
Greetings Gestur, I am Retired from the U.S. Army after having served 20 years. Like you I served with the Army Rangers (2 Battalion 75th Airborne Infantry ). Unfortunately I was medically retired due to injuries and wounds. Our mess kit was not near as good as yours as they held very little without spilling and next to impossible to cook in! During the Vietnam War (I was there 1970-72) they issued us C-Rations or also called “C-Rats”. They were canned meals that consisted of 3-4 cans and a foil packet all in a little box. If you wanted warm food you usually used hexamine fuel tablets or build a small fire ( NOT RECOMMENDED in field). They then came out with LRRPS ( pronounced “LURPS”) which were the dehydrated freeze dried meals (much better) which required water to rehydrate. Hot or warm water was better but cold water was all we were allowed on most mission. So by doing this the Army more or less did away with the need for mess kits on missions or patrols. They were used in garrison areas. Like yours they were still or could be “filthy cans” . By the way, as an American Indian, love your “Kokopelli “ “the Flute Player”. My son in law is Navajo and it is one of their deities. Take care from one Vet to another! Bob StrongBear
@@verysurvival Yeah I see that. Good point.
@@strongbear9304 Kokopelli is one of my favourite deities from original America. I like the story. I wrote Ranger because most people know what that is. We call it Jägare ("hunter") which is our name for it. All the best brother!
@@verysurvival In English.... grot pot..... we worked that out like more than 10 years back on one of the early vids ....didn't go viral though lol
I keep a green scrub pad in it and it can easily fit a small drip bottle of dish washing fluid.
We had little spunges impregnated with detergent which we used to clean the "snuskburk".
Also if we got food from the cooking detail instead of cooking our selves we used a 3 litre plastic bag to cover the frying pan which we used as a late. Then we did not have to clean at all.
Sometimes we also used snow the do a rough cleaning of the biggeer sauspan.
Interesting
Thank you very much for the presentation and description of the "M44"! In the meantime I have also acquired such a "miracle part". I also use a classic EBIT solid fuel stove. I got a TRANGIA27 cooking set especially for bushcraft events and for camping and larger tours and have also expanded and modified it!
Tack igen och hälsningar från Tyskland!
That's the first time I've heard the history of this kit. Thank you.
No problem!
I have both the M/40 and the M/44. Had the M/40 when i did my military service, i hated it. Now i love it. I always bring it when i go fishing, hunting, camping. It is well used, for decades, but doesn't have a single bump on it. My M/44 has never, ever been used.."factory new" :P
Great 👍
Nice review. I've had the same kit for 20 years.
Thanks for the tip Bloke. I was getting ready to buy one.
Glad I could help
The second notch on the handle and the loop is supposedly used slightly different than how you showed it
Swede here, i think the right translation should rather be dirty can, more than dirty box. Box in Swedish is ask or låda, but can is burk, and in Swedish ut called snuskburk. Btw i have the one and same aluminium version with the windshield and alcoholburner too
Translations should always be done by a native speaker that is a rule. You see Dirty Box in English means dirty vagina, dirty in this context meaning sexually adventurous and this makes it funny, since snusk in Swedish has a sexual vulgarity meaning, calling it dirty box keeps the sexual vulgarity in the translation. A correct direct word for word translation is not as effective as a translation of context and meaning keeping the humor of the soldiers that coined the phrase
i simple wire tooth brush does the bottom corner job good.
these tooth brushes come in a number of different metals and plastics. some wood handles some plastic. even seen steel handles.
The burner in mine can heat up 1liter of water to boil in 5 min, if I remember right?
The fuel last 20-25 min on one fil -up.
i normally get around 15 - 20 mins with one fill, boiling time depends on the air temps
My biggest hiking gear regret was selling mine during a post divorce downsize.
Have a 27 now, great bit of kit, but would happily trade it for another one of these.
cheers!
The stainless steel ones certainly ARE heavy . . . a whacking 1.54kg or 3lbs 6oz including a full fuel bottle (put some cling film over the mouth to stop it leaking then screw the cap on) and the SEVA burner but not the cup (which I think is supposed to go in before everything else?)
I'd heard they were hard to clean but have never had a problem with the steel version. An ex-Swedish army engineer told me he'd snap of a stick, hammer it into a brush at one end and use that to scrub/scrape right down to the bottom of the pan.
Self reliance outfitters has re-created the m40 in stainless with the windscreen also in stainless. It only has 3 pieces, no alcohol burner but they offer one for extra cash, no plastic cup, nor fuel bottle, nor utensils. It is reasonably priced. I got mine, waiting delivery. Very excited about it.
Cool.
Dave is a d1ck. I wouldn't anything from him. Yes I know him personally.
I just bought one off an outdoor shop, only the burner and meth bottle is genuine, no hoops on the handle and no hook on the main handle, ebay now me thinks for genuine parts to make it complete, loving your channel btw, I'm a complete skandiphile if that's a word 😀
Good luck 👍 hunting on eBay
@@verysurvival cheers man, it’s flooded with German miltec stuff, or pay £100 for one that may be genuine, fuk that.
Nice explanation of the mess kit.
The fuel bottle tend to leek so it’s better to store it outside the mess kit.
Good tip!
Cut a disk out of an old rubber mouse pad and glue it to the inside of the cap. The rubber foam compresses when you put the cap on and presto- no more leaks.
Use a Listerine bottle ...strong and leakproof and rated for alcohol
Very nice video, thanks för sharing, nice about the history behond it.
Glad you enjoyed it
I use a US/NATO cups canteen I liberated when I was in the Army. Cleaning? I used to use issue scotchbrite pad. Tried a brush. Now eat. Bit of water in boil let it set. Over to puddle stream whatevers handy. Mud sand scrub by blhand. Cant beat that as abreassive. Quick rinse shes clean burst of heat to kill any nastiel all good
will do the trick
Good job Dave !
Have one ! And found it some Days ago !
Greetings Dave, Thank you for your informative video on the M40/44 Swedish mess kits. I was able to obtain one recently, a Model 44. After viewing your video, I have discovered that my “complete kit” is not complete and missing parts. Are you still able to obtain these in Swedish Military Surplus stores? I would love to find a complete stainless steel kit in very good to good condition. If you or anyone watching this could assist I would be grateful and of course you or them compensated for the purchase, shipping, and their time or possibly even a trade for U.S. Military gear they might need or want. Thanks again, take care, Bob StrongBear ( U.S. Army Retired)
What parts are you missing?
You can find later aluminium versions and parts in Swedish surplus stores. They ship abroad. If you need help I can direct you.
@@Jonsson474 OKAY, I think I’ve been “taken”. I finally was able to sit down for a while and compare the “Swedish Mess Kit” that I purchased from eBay with the video, and the two don’t match. The Wind shield appears correct. The Spirit Bottle appears to be correct with the three crowns on it as does the brass Trangia Stove (Spirit Burner). The cook set is missing the cup. The Mess kit is NOT Oval shaped like the Wind Shield but rather it is “ Kidney Shaped” and it has a Square Bale with a notch dead center and no other notch. Also it is missing the hook on the bale. The sauce pan has only One loop (to put a non conductive handle{stick} into it and it does not appear to be made for that purpose. It actually appears to be made to accept a strap to secure the kit. The Large vessel besides missing the correct bale and hook is also missing the loop where the hook would go to make the three point carrying handle. The handle on the Sauce Pan has no opening for the loop that is supposed to be found on the Large vessel. Neither the Sauce Pan or the Large Vessel has any markings on them. After doing a little more research, it appears that the Polish Company that I purchased the “Genuine Swedish Army Trangia SVEA Stove Camping Cooker Spirit Burner & Mess Kit” used a genuine Wind Shield, Trangia Stove, and Alcohol fuel Bottle and put a Polish Army Mess Kit with it! UNLESS The Swedish Army changed Mess kits. What do you think? All I know is that this is not what I thought I was ordering. Yes, if you can assist me or if you have any ideas as to how I can obtain the correct kit, I would be very Thankful. Respectfully, Bob StrongBear
@@verysurvival , Hi Dave, I thought that I was replying to you and listed what I found. It is the reply to the other reply to me, Thanks, Bob StrongBear
@@strongbear9304 Yes, It sounds like they’ve put the polish mess kit in the Swedish wind shield. I’ll get back to you later with some links to original parts. Also, check the stove. It should have the three crowns stamped on the bottom. Another tell is the size. The military alcohol burner is almost twice the size of the civilian version. There is also an indentation on top of the container to burn fuel in in order to preheat the burner during cold weather.
With regards to the large pan, if you take out all the accessories it's a perfect fit for two cans of beans as an alternative to carry options.
Cool
You are the second video today that's got the sun behind.
Nice review as always brother! I did a similar review of my polish/German version! Best wishes Dave 👍🏽👍🏽😎
I will check it out
Not as good as yours brother!!
I really think this lunch box is too creative, it is really very powerful to design this kind of lunch box, I really want to buy one, but not on Amazon, I am here in China, how can I buy the genuine copy?
good luck I hope you find
Nicely done,great history about this mess tin.
Many mess tins from that area are pretty equal imo,some are better thought out in design
But generally they had the same look
Stay safe my friend
Thanks 👍
Watch out, the cooking "pot" has a very thin bottom. Will easily damage or can even perforate, if placed "quickly" over a rock or floor when hot. The alcohol burner is to big, to powerful. You cannot low the flame and you need to lift the hot "wind shield" to turn`t off. I also tried make a small fire inside and use small twigs, it works, but is not made for it.
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That was my reason for watching. Is it possible to use thorns/twigs inside wind shield instead?
Have the stainless version. Look on the bottom of the burner/stove because some are made by Svea, mine is. Never had any problem drinking from the cup. The cup is also good as a small bowl
svea is not a company, svea is the name of the country sweden. as far as i know, all of the military burners are stamped svea, i have never seen a military burner stamped trangia. it's the same with united states military gear, it's all stamped 'us' and sometimes also has the manufacturer's name but not always.
@@marzsit9833 Not wanting to get into a debate but say you are correct in Svea is not a company but as I understand is rather a brand name owned by Optimus. My burner has the 3 crowns indicating Swedish issue ( ie. like US indicating USGI), below it model # and then manufacture mark "SVEA".
@@marzsit9833 I have the complete kit minus the meths bottle. It has the original military burner which has the three crowns on the bottom and also says "Trangia:!
These kits are great. Have you tried using the kuksa with the handle pointing away from you and drinking from the pointed end of the “egg”? I notice yours has a flat bottom. Mine are all rounded.
I've tried everything mate , I always end up with a tiny sip or soup down my chin
@@verysurvival I guess they work for some people and not for others👍🏻
Does the 1985 Polish Mess Kit nest inside the Swedish Wind screen stove? Just purchased these separately on ebay for a really good price and am hoping they nest together.
IDK; let me know
Great to see you back interesting kit . Stay safe out there it's getting uglier by the day . Happy trails
Thanks, you too!
Are the o-ring seals in the Army burner the same size as those in the civilian version?
Good question. I don’t have them with me to test. But I am gonna guess that yes they do. They are really cheap so if you try it you and it doesn’t work it’s no big deal
@@verysurvival UPDATE - I bought some genuine Trangia o-rings from Amazon. They appear to fit the Army burner just fine, but I haven't done a thorough leak test just yet. I'll post my results once I have.
UPDATE #2 - EDITED - I had mixed results. The commercial o-rings fit the military burner lids, but aren't as tight as they could be. I had one fall out when I opened the burner. As I was working in low light, I didn't see the escaped o-ring sitting on top of the Trangia as I lit it. The o-ring caught fire, reeked pretty badly, and left a sooty mess on the bottom of my stainless Swedish Mess Kit pan.
The commercial o-rings seem to do an adequate job of preventing leaks. Still, it's probably best to seal one's Army burner in a plastic bag so as not to ruin the taste of food cooked in the Swedish Mess Kit.
Your mileage may vary, but I would say the commercially available Trangia o-rings WILL work with the Army burner. Just keep an eye out for runaway o-rings when you open the burner.
Use a magnet and be sure. Awesome system. Thank you.
Beers and 🍻
Austenitic stainless steel (304 and 316) which is the most common type, is non-magnetic.
Great video! I wanna buy an iron one!
Go for it brother
Put a magnet to it and you will know if it is aluminum or steel. Thanks for sharing your video with us.
Thanks for the tip
Just right for a "Billy Boil" !
But, why no matches? Or some other way to light the burner up? You can cook up even a tiny bit of "Wallaby stew" with no way to light the burner!!!!
It is not recommended to use aluminum canisters because aluminum, which causes Alzheimer's disease, can be leached into food during high-temperature heat cooking. Aluminum leach occurs mainly during grilling. I think it would be better to use a titanium product that is popular these days rather than a aluminium military canteen.
This is why I like my steel version.
Not true
I have the steel version, I don't like to cook with aluminum. The fuel bottle sprung a leak, a stainless hip flask works better. The brass alcohol stove has heated water for morning coffee when nothing else would light.
GreaT History Lesson Swede's always inovative folks
Indeed!
If you flip that windshield upside down it can be used as a twig stove
Yes 👍 it can !
Great video mate 👍 I do love my Swedish mess kit for wild camps, always thought it was m40 but it’s aluminium so it’s actually the m44?
As far as I understand it. If it is Alu it is m/44
Thanks for the video. 🇬🇧✌ have used my steel version often on my travels. I hear ut has also been nicknamed the 'soot pot' by Swedish soldiers as like any mess kit used over most types of fire, residue will build up. But the steel cleans up well when needed and it's a well thought out system. (Will be cooking mussels in it this week on a trip away in fact.)
Sounds great!
I want one of this so bad!
Nice 👍
Are all the windsheilds aluminum?
Mine are steel
Mess means allso 'eating cabin' (boats, ships). Little room where you make foods and eat it.
I have one, but it's steel and heavy,
Weighs almost 4 lb.
Aluminium maybe better, lighter I think!
All though, Al is not really recommended for cooking.
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aluminium is fine for cooking in. it is exagerated that it is bad for you
I am also a old school student. Classic never old
you are a classic sir
@@verysurvival Ha ha ha .... good 1
It does make a good brew kit.
You can easily drink out of the kåsa, if you drink out of the 'corner' near the handle.
if a mug has a special place to drink out of it, that kinda proves my point. can't beat a round mug, its an amazing invention any part of it can be used ;-)
@@verysurvival Just trying to help. Anyway, a round mug with the same volume wouldn't have been able to fit into the mess kit, so you've got to prioritize, I guess.
right
Very nice 👌
Thank you! Cheers!
Clever !
Nice informative video, mate!
I got a Swedish mess kit, that states Norge (Norway), which is very odd.
I'm looking for people who know more about that. I got a video on my channel (currently the only one). Cheers!
That is interesting, I’ve not seen that before
Snuskigt bra!
i have an m-44 aluminum version, i only use it for boiling water or heating up soups on car-camping trips as an extra stove, it's too heavy and bulky for anything else really. i got mine for $20 usd years ago before the prices went insane, i really don't understand why people go absolutely nutso for these and are willing to pay ridiculous amounts of money for them thinking they are the best cooking system ever invented. i'm not saying it's a bad set, it's just not worth what people think it's worth.
way over priced
*every american during the first 20 seconds of adjusting to accent*
"What the f*** is he saying?"
Love the videos thanks!
Greetings from the Midwest!
Howdy Pardner!
In the winter it was no problem we let it freeze and then scraped it out
Awesome
brilliant
The new Dirty box has just been elected. Stay safe everyone.
;-)
Hey are u foreign what country you from
everyone is foreign to other foreigners.
Hi no offence intended.
Either way good review
U can't tell the difference between steel and aluminum by appearance?
Somebody needs to do this in titanium
interesting
That cockroach ran for its life when it saw that cook stove lol
It was an earwig.
Bella spirgazione per quanto riguarda gli anni di fabbricazione,ma non ti è ben chiaro il suo uso per cucinare:Il recippiente grande serve unicamente pper scaldare l'acqua,èil piccolo che riceve la razione da scaldare a bagno maria mettendolo sul grande,dopo di che si lava il contenitore piccolo con l'acquua bollente della pentola grande.
Nice
Very nice
Base is Aluminium, I just put a magnet on mine and it did not stick.
My base is steel
@@verysurvival Yes yours is the older steel model, I have the later aluminium model.
@@Dutcharmytent cool
These are good cooksets. They’re not worth what they sell for these days though.
agreed, the prices started going up past reasonable 5 years ago
Humble Trekker it was a perfect storm of the surplus supply drying up just as the world’s bushcraft community got the word they were out there. I got my pair of stainless steel models for $5 apiece. I think that is under their value for sure. Now I could probably sell them and buy a car!
The surplus market was quite good in the late 90s-00s. Expansion of Bushcraft and Preparedness communities online and a change in equipment of militaries dried up the market. I wish I could find a decent GI style poncho that was milspec. MRE style meals killed the need to issue mess kits. Militaries tend not to issue canteens much anymore, let alone sets because of CamelBak style bladders.
the survivalist gun nut retards in the usa discovered them and now they are in very high demand. the anti-aluminum nuts really drove up the price of the stainless version, i've seen some sell for over $200 us dollars on ebay.
As long as you have fingers and water, you really shouldn't have any problem keeping it clean. You don't need a brush. Who carries a brush, anyway?
gross, just because you are camping doesn't mean you have to become a cave man. A brush or sponge weighs a few grams and should be in every camping kit.
una joya
this is nice but im not sold on this .
Snuskburk!
yep!
Use a magnet to check
I would never touch aluminum
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Сейчас китайцы такие штампуют....но качеством похуже.
Drink from the small end
Drink from the "tip" and you wont make a mess of yourself.
i tried that
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Thank God your channel is not gay pride month friendly sheesh!
I've got the M40 variant. I've used it only couple of times, for this thing is HEAVY. I moved on to some 1L GSI anod. alu.pot.