That Pedal Show - Modulation Basics: Chorus, Phaser, Flanger, Vibrato, Tremolo & Vibe
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In this video Daniel and Mick take a look at the basics of modulation effects. People are often confused about the differences between chorus, phaser, flanger, vibrato, tremolo and vibe (Uni-Vive phaser), so we’re here to unravel that in as simple a way as we dare!
Please note, this is not a technical theory lesson. That stuff is documented brilliantly on Wikipedia and elsewhere if you want to understand the physics, with diagrams and stuff.
The pedals we’re using today:
• MXR Phase 90 (original script logo) - no longer made but try the reissues!
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• Mooer ElecLady
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• Analog Man Bi-Chorus
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• Diamond VIB1 Vibrato - no longer made
• Hamstead Soundworks Signature Tremolo
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• Sweet Sound MojoVibe
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We also use a Fire Custom Shop Carpe Diem distortion and Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man 1100-TT
Interesting bits and go-to sections…
Phaser discussion 4:11
Flanger discussion 6:36
Chorus discussion 9.55
Vibrato discussion 11:45
Tremolo discussion 13:00
Vibe discussion: 15:25
A play through all of the pedals to compare: 23:03
Mick is playing a Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster. Dan is playing a Gretsch Player’s Edition 6118T Anniversary
Amps are a Fender Super Reverb with 4x10 Jensen alnico speakers and a Hamstead Artist 20+RT through a 1x12 Celestion Alnico Blue.
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I am blaming you for my ongoing struggle with gear addiction. Day 283. I've bought a Vox AC30 and Firebird within 2 days. Already looking at a new board, new pedals, and a gretsch. Please. Tell my family I love them.
Yeah I'm broke because you guys!
phaser goes " wowwowwow" " vibe goes "weeoohweeoohweeoo" flanger goes "woooooshwhooooshwhoooos" chorus goes "woowoowoo" vibrato goes "oowoowoow" tremolo goes "oohwhoohwhoohwhoo"... your welcome internet
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Vibrato is more like: "hHHhuuuc ooOOLlyyaaahhhhh" (throwing up)
@@rkb2092 you need to turn up the rate knob.
@@earlycuyler2295 Only if it makes it end quicker, LOL.
Thanks man. You have a channel? Or maybe an RSS feed? that might suit your content more
Fellas. Love the show. It inevitably ends up with me spending more money. How about you look at 'affordable' pedals and do a series of shows on entry level pedal board content? I know it's not quite as glamorous but it would help those of us who don't have unlimited budgets or are hobby players who love pedals but can't stump up £400 for a pedal (as much as we'd like to... Chase Bliss... how much am I lusting after those pedals...). Just a thought
Seconded
Great idea!
In the Blues has great pedal content, all price ranges. Shane does a pretty good job of demos on his channel.
That is great idea and will keep me out of the dog house with the Mrs.
figure what pedals you absolutely need and don't get tricked by the shiny paint
I love how when Dan was playing a Hendrix bit when talking about Vibe around 18:40, Mick has automatically switched his Strat to neck position.
It was kind of like the famous name-drop horn - when Hendrix is mentioned, got to switch the Strat to neck!
It is always nice to see people actually enjoying and being enthusiastic about playing their instruments.
I want to personally thank you for not playing Eruption.
Best show on youtube, keep up the awesome job guys
+PanaMethul cheers P ;)
me: (hears first two notes of shine on you crazy diamond and immediately turns off video to rush to music store to get a phaser)
MAN !, that guitar & amp combination is perfect for this explanation,....so BEAUTIFUL sounding !!!!
+Pun-Szu Z Cheers P 🤓
You should do an episode about running pedals on 9v or 18v! (or whatever voltage). Keep on the good work!
In a way that's like 12 bit VS 24 bit.
You have more values to faithfully represent the waveform that is your guitar sound :-)
It's an interesting question.
You guys do such an incredible job explaining how to maximize the use out of your pedals, while still retaining that sounds signal clarity! Would you have any suggestions for me for my setup? I just want to get the most out of my effects, but keep that clarity.Thank you for all that you do.
PRS Custom 22> Poly Tune>Bonafide Buffer>Morley Bad Horsie 2>Deja Vibe>Keeley Compressor>Keeley Fuzz Bender>Ibanez TS808>Ibanez TS9>Bonafide Buffer>Fuchs ODS 100
**Note: I was originally putting a boomerang looper v1 at the end of the chain before going back into the amp. Not sure if I am doing something wrong with Boomerang, or if they are just generally noisy. Lol.
Thank Yiu 🙏🙏🙏😎🤟🎸
The Chameleons 1985 LP "What does anything mean basically" is like a textbook demonstration of all of these plus a lot of echo/reverb, Looking Inwardly and PS Goodbye have the phaser/flanger effects all over, I can't tell which one...
Mick, where can I get a clone of your t-shirt?! 😄
25+ years of guitar, and I finally understand the difference between flanger, phaser, and chorus. thanks a ton
Chris Isaak wicked game riff- pedal show never ceases to amaze. sweet klon shirt
Phaser-wise, by the way, I know Boss is never fashionable but the PH-3 is crazy versatile and sounds great.
+David Dyte I agree. i love my PH-3
+Mark Whitelaw *braces myself for the wave of hate* OKAY I ADMIT I USE A BEHRINGER SUPER PHASE SHIFTER AND I LOVE IT ITS REALLY VERSATILE AND IT WAS ONLY £20
Such a precious tone on the Gretsch
... still one of your best ... revisited so many times
Have been looking forward to this one, I put the wife into the spare room for the night so I can watch it. Thanks Dan & Mick!
+Mini Forklift Ⓥ Excellent! Thanks for watching!
+That Pedal Show ... and I will go to your store and purchase a T Shirt soon. I feel as if I owe you at least something haha. Keep up the great work guys, I'm addicted.
+Mini Forklift Ⓥ you should bring the wife back for the part where Dan explains how many pedals you need!!! Dear Dan and Mick, please include that section in all future videos and mark what time it appears!
+robbieredball 20.40 will be compulsory viewing in my household - not least as I'll be in deep shit when my xotic SL drive arrives tomorrow
Haha did you lock her in there? 😁 single guy asking, researching wives and marriage just as I am pedals and gear
That pedal show ! I can't live without it :)
Heard Shine On You Crazy Diamond and said to myself, "you're watching the rest of this, even if it's the 500th video on phasers you've seen from Dan and Mick.
Thanks again guys!! These types of in depth explorations of how effects work really help to dial in my stuff better.
+Paisley Wilde our pleasure
Was going to complain about this video in the strongest possible terms, as I thought the star of this show was conspicuous in its absence, but then right near the end redemption came and the name drop horn was produced! Another quality video guys, thanks.
+Roger The Shrubber It was touch and go for a while there Roger!
Crikey that basic clean tone is to die for, it sounds so inspiring!
Mick & Dan are so Natural. Its like checking out Pedals & Effects with your Guitar Friends. Im enjoying this channel ( more & more ). Really good stuff. Super Informative. Thanks guys . . . for all the Great Info. - Michael Caz - NYC -
Oh Dan, you just won my heart when you played wicked game... :D
Great video as always!
+Vinnie M cheers Vinnie, such a great song
Gilmour also used the Electric Mistress as well for the Animals tour and the Wall album and tour.
Great video as always, but I'd like to point out that flanger differs from chorus in another aspect than just the delay time: the flanger generally feeds back part of the signal to create a richer effect!
The really wonderful thing about this show is how much you both love the gear!
+Josh Hobbs it's the only reason we do it Josh 🤓
Nice take on Wicked Game!
Brilliant explanations. I finally understand the differences.
Brilliant! Nice layman's explanation and demonstration of these effects. Concise and practical. That Pedal Show is on my Top 5 list of favorite TH-cam channels.
+Steve Comeau Thank you Steve, very much appreciated. Thanks for watching!
I've watched this episode twice now. Very informative. Onya - Keep up the great work fellas!
"Vibe is actually modulating the frequencies as well". yes, because every phaser actually does as well. Both chorus/flanger and phaser modulate the frequency. Every "wet" phaser signal is a vibrato tone, but perhaps not a popular one, because the change is frequency dependent (phase) and very little (4 phases are very short delay). But so few phaser have a vibrato mode as the vibe does.
And once again they make my day :D Thanks for all the great video's guys! Love 'em! :D
Suggestion: as a little reward, give us 30 seconds of "a" vs "b" with Dan in one side and Mick in one side (you could even make it us a 'Dan' vs 'Mick") at the very end. Thanks for giving us high-quality video, and I love the show!
Thanks for the clear explanation.
I would like to add a salient point about wonderful modulation which you hopefully find interesting: the song Vapour Trail by Ride - there has been some discussion about the guitars, and this is before the internet and when people just talked at gigs et cetera! So, was it chorus, flanger....? I thought it was a phaser but only on one of two amps. Anyway, Andy Bell says that it was just two Rickenbacker 12s recorded simultaneously and the slightly different strumming caused it! Brilliant! Have a listen.
Loved the wicked game riff to open the show. Sounded great, that hollow body is amazing.
+Influxx Media best Grestch I've ever played
Hi Dan and Mick, love your show - fun, informative and funny. Also, bought your D&M Drive - brilliant pedal. For so long I've wanted a pedal which offers heavy distortion and also subtle break up - and it's all there - thanks guys keep foot tapping those pedals!!!!! Paul
Excellent job. I knew so little about modulation, I didn't ever know what questions to ask to clarify. Love the phase and chorus pedals.
I haven't dug through the comments but...Fender initially made amps with VIBRATO. I had a 1960 brownface Super that has a delicious pitch-shifting vibrato. Fender just didn't bother to change the nomenclature when switching to the less complicated and much cheaper photocell tremolo circuit. This of course doesn't change the fact that Leo was quite careless or clueless with the terms.
With the Vibe switched to vibrato mode with wet/dry and the Vibe only in the wet side, you'll experience the full "chorus" Vibe effect. I bet that would sound freakin' massive.
I see what ya did there at the 6:35 mark to avoid copyright...Very Clever ---"Panama" to "Are you gonna go my way"
"That was Lenny Kravitz by the way"
I love it...
Love your work guys, I have learned SO much about guitar sound watching your channel. Cheers!
great show, now i can't wait to watch an all episode about tremolo pedals , "stutter" effect etc...
I'm impressed Dan, you used the trem and I was expecting 6 out of tune strings. That Gretsch sounds seriously good.
Woohoo, Magnatone shoutout! I love my Twilighter. It has both beautiful tremolo and vibrato (and reverb). :)
+Phil Heesen III :)
for some reason this never showed up in my subscription list
+jake winchester Same! I thought it was odd that I hadn't seen a new episode in my sub list so went to the channel to see what was up.
hey guys the show had a great vibe about it today keep up the great work!
Excellent channel!! It will be really good if they make some pitch,octave pedals!Greetings from Argentina!
+Emilo it's on the list :)
In the Tremolo vs Vibrato argument, switching back and forth between two notes more than a step apart is also called tremolo.
Great show boys, @thatpedalshow you guys need a Kingsley Bard! Best bias trem on the market.
"Lightbulb" - you can always spot a parent and the age of their kids based on the quotes they come out with :D
In the 70s we would lay out a long row of EXH pedals,hook em up, turn on the black lights,strobe lights and JAM for hours. Now I read the forums. "What sounds best? the phaser before or after the chorus?" "Should I run the delay in the loop or before the distortion?" Just start yanking cords,spinning knobs and experiment!!! Today's guitarist want their hands held and don't understand if Hendrix, EVH ETC didn't give a finger to the guitar crowd and chase that tone in their heads, we would all sound like SANTANA.
I love the way Dan explain his electronic things hehe! We can feel how you enjoy what you do guys! Simply amazing! Big Hug!
+FirstRowStudios big hug back ;)
awesome video! thanks from Brazil!
I'm not into modulation that much, but I'm in love with that Gretsch! Great show as usual!
+Mario Cáceres cheers Mario 🤓
Great show as usual, I got to wear my new 'that pedal show' t-shirt tonight too👍🏽🤘🏻 think you guys would ever cover some basic principles on amp eq for different venues. It hit home when Dan mentioned he used to have a favourite amp for per venue. Keep up the good work guys
+Gregory Smout yes Gregory, we'll get it sorted
Everything I begin attempting to use the modulation part of my reflecting pool by fender. About the only thing I am able to get it to do is make me sound like my guitar is out of tune. I would really like to learn how to use this to do whatever it is supposed to do. Can u guy's help me understand what it is, how it works, & how can I use it effectively & know what I'm doing with it?
I believe the lamp/optical sensor in the UniVibe only affects the shape of the LFO. In other words the sound doesn't "pass" through that circuitry. The LFO is the "automatic hand" doing sweeping in Choruses, Phasers, Flangers, Vibratos, Modulated Delays, Tremolos, Univibes etc
+Javi G of course, but it's all about that shape
Great episode guys. Would have been good to also see a rotating speaker pedal, like a Neo Ventilator, especially in stereo.
+POG FROGULPOP we'll be doing an entire show on these, such a great sound
+That Pedal Show Cant wait to see this one! Will you be doing it with both clean and dirt sounds? Or just clean?
Excellent episode guys. I'll never look at my trem arm in the same way again..
I finally understand the flanging effect, thanks. But: now I don't understand how the phasing effect works. It's becasue I learned in an audio engineering course that the flanger is doing a phase shift. It takes a signal, duplcates it by by using a delay circuit and then shift the delay time, so that the two signals are having slightly different phase. If this is true, what the phaser then is doing to the signal? Can not be the same because it sounds quite different.
Another interesting question would be: what would the only wet signal of the flanger sound like? Would it also be a vibrato?
And final question: if the chorus would have a feedback knob, would it sound like a flanger (a flanger in an extreme setting = long delay time)?
Cheers from Germany ;-)
Super random and I know this is an old episode but i swear that the riff Dan plays at 2:48 with the vibe is from an amazing 90s PC game called Full Throttle. Super dark and funny game. Mark Hamill was one of the voice actors. Not that anyone cares....haha.
Eran Montiel not vibe
@@zTrebster vibrato*
I was distracted suddenly this sound came out of the speakers oh it’s That Pedal Show Gone Wild
How about a future video of both your current rigs and pedalboards? would be pretty cool to see what you are using :)
New question in 2022. I have overdrive and delay along with Tremolo and Reverb in my Fender Twin. What should I buy next? A flanger, chorus, or phaser?
Awsome! I finally understood the difference between faser, chorus, flanger and vibrato... haha
Thanks!
Another great show guys! I was wondering if you would do a show or a few comments for pedals for acoustic performers? EQ, compression amp setups etc. like both of stated in another episode I find myself doing more work with the acoustic these days and was keen to find out how the pros handle different environments and their choice of setup. Thanks. ps buy the Gretsch Dan!
That Chris Issac tune made my mouth drop. That sounded so good!
+Ryan Pearsall cheers Chris, one of my favourite guitar sounds :)
All of a sudden I hear XTC. Nice one.
Cheers on the new location (saw the latest video) , I was wondering if you could do a video on Phasers
I was reaaaaally looking for THAT episode!
Nicely done
what is the best way to sequence these pedals in an effects loop and why? anyone please
fantastic video guys!
Can you guys do a video of the different digital Modulation units. Like the Line 6 m9, the eventide, and a strymon möbius?
+jonathan diaz good call
Fender did make amps with true Vibrato: The Blonde Twin and Blonde Showman had very elaborate circuits to modulate pitch.. They sound amazing, like a pitchshifting Uni-Vibe, really cool sound..
+Mac G cheers Mac, I'll try and get my hands on one to check out :)
+That Pedal Show: Please do, they sound very cosmic.. Cool amps, pretty rare. I have a friend who has a Blonde Showman.
+Mac G: I hear you are coming to Denmark in the fall. Maybe we´ll have a Blonde Showman to let you try..
Thanks for another great show. I found it especially interesting how the Mojo Vibe instantly turned up the inner Hendrix with both of you. Nice :-)
+Thomas Lange yeah, it's just that sound you connect with. It's such an amazing sound
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. :-)
Nice video. I have a Strymon Mobius which I am honestly a bit unsure about. Wondered if you guys might feature it in a video sometime?
awsome demos..... need Your help. Just plan put tremolo, phaser, chorus, Vibe, rotary, env filter, flanger and vibrato at one pedalboard. Please advise about the Chain... (after or before Drive too)..... 😀... thanks You...
+Joko Hanggono Watch our Effects Order Basics video Joko. It depends on the pedals and is particularly problematic with modulations. Tremolo and rotary at the end, envelope filter towards the front. Everything is to taste. Well, everything is to taste, but that's where we'd start...
You guys are the best! Please, make a video talking about shimmer! Congrats from Brazil!
+Chrystian Gomes hmmm, shimmer. Good call
Another great one! How about an episode solely on treble boosters?
+Emre Gündüz yes!
Wicked game was wicked
Great episode, was surprised how great the mooer sounded
+Ian Cosgrove surprised me too Ian, sounds really great
Which Gretsch model is that? It´s really beautiful. Anybody knows?
What's that first song Dan plays?? With the bigsby
cody mangum Wicked Game by Chris Issacs.
Great show! I am still a little confused about the difference between a vibe and phaser. Is it a multi-stage phaser with a resistor? Anyway thank you so much for your videos, I've learned so much from them.
+Alexander “lourence1981” Webb
Hi,
The Phase 90 and Uni-vibe are both multi-stage phasers with four stages. The back and forth sweeping effect is created by modulating (i.e. changing over time) a resistor in each of the stages. This is done with an LFO (low frequency oscillator) circuit. The Speed knob on the effect is adjusting the frequency of that LFO. In other words, how fast the back and forth sweep happens.
The key difference between the Phase 90 and Uni-vibe is *how* they modulate that resistor in each stage. In the Phase 90, the LFO is connected to an FET (Field Effect Transistor) in each stage. That FET changes its resistance based on the input of the LFO. In the Uni-vibe, a photo-resistor is used in each stage and the four photo-resistors are physically isolated in a compartment with a light bulb. The LFO in the Uni-vibe controls the brightness of the light bulb which, in turn, changes the resistance of the photo-resistors. The light bulb doesn’t respond as quickly as the FET to the input from the LFO and that’s what gives the Uni-vibe that “watery” sound.
Steve thanks for the very detailed explanation. That was very informative and dumbed down enough for even me to understand.:)
such a cool and informative video
You said near the end of the video, that when you plug CE-1's two outputs separately it's one dry, one effected and that's not stereo. It IS stereo or else if both sides have dry+effect is dual mono and it's the same as splitting a mono signal with a Y-cable. Isn't stereo sending different sound parts to left and right to create 3D space? (There's an option on an old Boss Chorus to send dry/effect or dry+effect to A and dry+ inverted effect to B but that has a weird out of phase sound and it cancels out if you press the mono button on recording).
Nice little XTC "All of a Sudden" reference!
+Ray Polakovic cheers Ray, my favourite band in the world 🤓
Hey guys! I have a question about how these modulation effects affect one another.. It was interesting to learn that they're all more similar to one another in their topology than different. It was also fascinating to hear that they sounded awesome when all played all together, and were not as confusing to the ear (as I thought they'd be!) So my question is, do some of these modulation affects sound better when paired next to one another on our boards? I know this is probably subjective, but wondering if any of these effects cancel each other out, or are better when paired together in a signal chain. Thanks for another great show!! Cheers!
I was watching Guitar Paradiso with Mick and Pete, and my 2-year-old daughter asked me where was "the other man with the glasses". She was missing Dan! See guys how you've become part of the family ;-)
+19Cluj 🤓
Wasn't Shine You Crazy Diamond actually recorded with a Univibe?
My favourite phase 90 sound is probably Have a Cigar!!
Btw my jaw was on the floor with your opening tune Dan, great chops!
+Miguel Pessanha yes, I just played it with the phase 90, love that sound. But have a cigar is a great call. Cheers M :)
+Miguel Pessanha Have a poke around on www.gilmourish.com The information is extensive and seems to suggest that Shine On was a Phase 90. David used proper Leslie cabs quite a bit too. Gilmourish has the answers...
+That Pedal Show You're right, it is the phase 90 indeed! Just had a listen back and you can hear those swirly mids instead of that low pulse with the Univibe. He used the Uni Vibe on Dark Side Of The Moon, Breathe, Time, Any Colour You Like! They are a great source indeed! Keep rocking Dan!
Is there a video on how much difference using a buffer for the non- true bypass pedals in the chain?
Will there be an episode on Filter effects? Effects such as Auto Wah and The Sample Hold effect used by Zappa?
+SamJay505 sure thing 🤓
Deadly drinking game: drink every time he touches his whammy
+That Pedal Show would you consider doing a 'has a real tube in it' episode to compare the various credible 12AX7 boost and drive pedals? From the Butler to the Overlord right through to the Kingsley pedals and other modern variations. And if time allows - perhaps address the 'starved plate' concept with an example. I'm considering a Kingsley Page purchase - online of course, as there is zero chance of try-before-buy in Australia.
+DJ Klinger Aha! Next week we have part of that video, DJ, where we talk generally about the Jester, Overlord and BK Butler, with some demos, natch. Then when we get some feedback, we'll follow up with another vid comparing the pedals people want to see. So, next week! Kingsley stuff is totally ace, by the way. Thanks for watching!
+That Pedal Show cool - looking forward to that!
+That Pedal Show Looking forward to this show too. I use a preamp/overdrive pedal that has a real tube in it. Either a 12ax7 or a 12au7 depending on the tone I need. It will be interesting to see your take on them.
+That Pedal Show and once again a great show! You guys and Sam Vilo are must watches each week.
Great show guy's cheers.
+Zebulon Chadwick cheers Z ;)
I was a little worried about Mick there for a bit. He didn't say a word for the first five and a half minutes of the show! Get this man some coffee, or pepto bismol or something.
No offense; I thought "coke"