When You Don't Tap Your Knee Will Snap - Muhammad Mokaev UFC 286 Injury
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- Muhammad Mokaev refused to tap at UFC 286 and as a result suffered what looks to be a very bad knee injury. Doctor Sutterer breaks it down.
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Dudes got heart but honestly that shit was crazy not to tap
Not just crazy. Honestly kind of stupid
@TheLearningPhase it was absolutely stupid, could very well cost him his career, at the very least that knee will be prone to future injuries, once you have one bad knee injury things can get rough real quick. That’s assuming he didn’t really destroy it and he still has decent stability.
yeah, he surely risked his career to avoid losing... hopefully its nothing too serious, although I doubt it
The ref should stop it. He couldn't defend himself at that point.
@Hiski Hämäläinen interesting perspective and proposition. I think it should be explored more deeply.
The fact that he won the fight is crazy
Right after too
He’s dagestani. They don’t lose
@Siuuuuuuuu he was born in Manchester England
@wwejosh1928 he moved to England when he was 12.
@wwejosh1928 he migrated to the U.K. when he was 12 and he moved to Liverpool initially so at least get your facts straight. Also, even if he was born in the U.K. that doesn’t change the fact that he’s dagestani by ethnicity and by blood. Where you were born and raised does not change where you originally come from
As someone who has been knee barred multiple times it is probably the scariest submission. After years of being on the wrong end of that submission it never gets any less scary. Dudes an animal for not tapping.
You ain't lying in the least... I tap AS SOON as they get It.. I mean immediately..
tell me about it. I don't play with kneebars either. You tap as soon as it's locked in. By far the scariest submission someone might attempt on you.
No joke my right knee hurts watching this video. Its nothing to play with. People really need to be aware of how serious not tapping can be! Lol its not about being tough.
I can imagine, I got a hypertension playing ball, dude fell and his back pressed against my knee , omg that hurts
And a evil person to braket it, it takes alot to be able to do it. I can’t fulfill it when in in the other end don’t wanna destroy a life
I'm hoping his knee fully recovers. Thank god he's young but if he does then he's just made a statement. This dude won't quit, he's not just talent!
I know a guy from high school who had a knee injury from back then, 10 years later and multiple surgeries and he still can't do most sports, had the pop out multiple times from just running. Michael Bisping had knee issues his entire career but couldn't fully replace it until retirement (injured first in 2005 at 26) in 2019 getting knee replacement surgery. I don't wish this on Mokaev but the knee issue is at least going to severely limit his movement because this wasn't a minor knee issue.
He’s gonna have to quit the sport altogether depending on the injury. Not a smart way to fight but heart is heart.
Tho I’d rather not see knees bend like that, I’d tap.
bruh this man is a beast to endure that! Much respect to him for having that much heart to stomach that pain
Yea, he is tough, but that submission was like checkmate he should have tapped, too much ego involved and it might end his career
its not tough its stupid and lowers their fighting life...look at tony
nah would respect him more for tapping.
also it's disrespectful, the other guy could absolutely have taken that leg if he escalated faster, he was giving him an out and mokaev didn't take it, if we let this no tapping shit persist we're just gonna see more broken limbs before people can tap
@lusteraliaszero Im not sure how you can come to that conclusion. Just because the submission gets sunk in doesn't mean he has to tap. The idea is to make it hurt so much the opponent HAS to tap. If he wants to continue in the hold, and in the process completely fuck up his knee, its up to him, its not disrespect
I was at the fight. We all thought for sure he was done and when he turned around and got the sub, the entire crowd erupted... one of the craziest turn arounds in a fight I've ever seen.
That guy saved my fat parlay with his superhuman toughness. He has my gratitude and respect forever. Truly the GOAT of toughness
@wall0169 for sure, Im a fan now and will follow him, hope he becomes a champ in next 2-3 years because to go tru that and win the fight is un heard of just wowzers
Hey Dr., actually the submission got readjusted later on which Mokaev also confirmed. After the readjustment on the hold, Filho also started rotating the knee, this is where the other cracks happened in my opinion. Great work as always :)
I'm 24 and hyperextended my knee about 10 years ago. It wasn't bad and healed pretty well but it's starting rear it's ugly head now that I've been doing labour work for the past 3 years. It suuuuuucks. I can't imagine the fighters that go through these injuries and continue to fight on and train. So much respect and very humbling
oh man, contract an insurance, maybe is usefull in the future
He's probably not gonna be able to continue fighting if it gets that bad.
iteracare wand would heal it for you, probably within weeks
Hey Doc, I know it’s not a recent injury but could you talk about Dominic Thiem’s wrist injury? Very interested to know how severe it was and how it impacted him to such a degree. Thanks!
Thank You, Dr. for clarifying the extent of the trauma to the knee, without seeing an ex-ray or MRI and giving a expected prognosis! It was a horror video, tap to fight another day.
In fact the prognosis was wrong 😂
Crazy! I was screaming tap at the tv. Impressive that he could fight thru it and win, but he’s like 22 and had a bright future in the sport. I hope he recovers quickly!
He's 22, but that knee is 80 now.
😭
poor guy 😕
woah what a totally original joke that definitely wasn’t the top comment on the espn mma video about this exact kneebar!
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@DJEggy Relax… It’s the internet. Public domain
The pressure of being undefeated. Mindblowing
*Kneeblowing
@Razz Prince lol
Which is ridiculous mindset in MMA. This isn't boxing, it's very easy to recover from a loss or two and get yourself back in contention quickly.
It was insane not to tap. It definitely broke Filhos spirit though he tapped to that neck crank fast as hell and I would have too. Burned all my energy breaking your leg just for you to ignore it and keep fighting. I'm not winning tonight.
I saw this and thought, "What an idiot!" There's no shame in tapping. Filho caught him in a tap-able submission. It's like, "Dude you got caught. It's okay, the best get caught all the time. Just tap". Now he's not going to fight in a long time, and his knee might never be the same again. Well done Junior!
Are you actually shaming him for being tougher than 99.9 percent of the population? Weird flex.
@Chad ZardEvery one has at least one loss. Even Islam has one loss and that's a KO.
@Chad Zard better to tap than have a potential career ending injury
My knees are tingling watching this breakdown lmao
my bad knee started aching a lil , it was never that swollen but now i fear i have arthritis , tho it’s pissie i have RA
*possible
Knee will never be the same again. He’s gonna wobble for a few years.
Not necessarily. He's young and can recover better than you might expect. Even torn Meniscus, which has no blood supply and is a nightmare for older athletes, will likely be very much salvagable in a light and healthy 22 year old.
This was so brutal when I watching it live. How can a knee bent so far the other way? He was incredibly tough to not tap there
Tough or just dumb because he wasn't getting out of that submission. He might as well just tapped to stop further injury. That's just my opinion though
He just ended his own career, that’s not tough, just plain stupidity.
@Jadeazu he won the fight...
@klaf xela fax its fucking crazy how he got out and still won
Man I was screaming at the TV to just tap it ain’t worth it😂
I tapped to a knee bar that was no where near as bad as this, my knee wasn't fully healed until yrs later
Perfect video for me. I got knee barred at a comp but not this bad. This re assures me I will be fine lol
I was limping on it for 2 weeks
MMA fighters are so tough 😰
How did he not tap to that ..
Even crazier is the fact he won the fight ..
Might've ruined his career by trying to save his record.
In the UFC, saving your record is saving your career.
He did win this fight.
He will probably not have another fight for six months, which he will have plenty of time for rest and recovery.
@Audentior Ibo' Yea, that would be a tough call in the moment as to what is worse for your career.
@Audentior Ibo' not really but ok
@Audentior Ibo' probably an entire year
@Infinite Monkey I don't think having your first lost would ruin your career, but it definitely will take a hit at your ego/confidence. Like you can bounce back from a lost, but an injury not so much
"Your eye, my knee. It's what we do." - Mokaev to Michael Bisping
Bro this guy is the coolest dr ever
Hope he can come back from it and propel his career further
Love the medical breakdowns.
Won the fight but his knee may never be same
That was so hard to watch . Praying for a fast recovery
Mokaev is too tough for his own good
Ive seen alot of people discrediting Mokaev for not tapping, reducing his actions down to pride and saying its because of the pressure of being undefeated, and saying stupid things like it was dishonourable towards his opponent becuase hes going to put his opponent through the trauma of having broken Mokhaevs knee and potentially ending his career. I dont know how anybody with a realistic and proper outlook can say anything bad about this. Its nature to endure survive and overcome. Youre basically saying that you wouldnt allow a dog to tear your hand apart if it could save a childs life, life is just fuckd like that, things hurt us. Ive been in a situation where i had to pull apart a belgian malinois and a rottweiler, and i didnt hesitate, my hand was bitten so badly that the bones of my hand was exposed, if i didnt do that the dogs would have fought to the death. And there are many many people who have been in similiar situations where its either you attempt to handle the situation or theres serious repercussions, thats the exact same instinctive reaction as Mokhaev had to not tap there. theres a reason hes such a good fighter, because hes willing to accept the consequences of his mistakes and still face the situation, the fact that he came back and still won the fight by submission should tell everybody what they need to know. How does anybody discredit what he did ? People didnt discredit Tony Ferguson for not tapping to Oliveiras armbar and Beneil Dariushs leglock !
It was not risky of Mokaev, he probably wasnt thinking that his opponent wouldnt be able to get a full extension, he just ended up in the situation and you kind of just wait and see what happens, if you get an opportunity then you take it, and he got caught in that kneebar and he was able to get out with a functioing leg and still fight. Thats what makes you tough and resilient, whether in the cage or working a normal 9-5 job and having to deal with a sick family member. Look for the opportunities man, being caught in a precarious situation either kills you or presents opportunity.
He could hv lost this fight and made a stronger comeback.
Just look at Olivera and so many others..
Hope he is heals up 100%
Smart doctor👌
Walking on it at all?
He is a legend
Won the fight to potentially ruin his career .. legendary.
Doctor Paul George just got injured please let us know what your thoughts are on his injury. Thank you Doc.
This is sad. An elite fighter should ideally know how to tap out to ensure being elite still in the future. But it maybe not easy to consider that in the heat of a fight where all is happening so fast ...
I think tony not tapping to an inverted heel hook was more painful than this.
And he got a submission after the knee bar ...he may never be he same but he won
Does someone like Mokaev just factor in that they're not living without arthritis and joint pain for life, regardless, once they choose to wrestle.
I feel if he comes back from it within 9 months to a year, still unbeaten, he'll feel it was worth it, if the thing still moves the same.
I really hope this kids leg is ok, hall of famer in the making
I will respect Mokaev until the end of time!
What a beast! On the other hand his opponent taps to a rear naked choke
in his intrerview with ariel he said he was waiting for it to snap (he thought he was done for) and that he wouldnt tap even if it costs him his career crazy mentality wooow
what i beast he wanted that win to be in a top 10 hope he recovers man his mind over pain is crazy strong, could of ended his corior, im a huge fan of Mokaev now wow
imagine Rousimar Palhares putting Mohammed in a kneebar 😂 “I’m not tapping bro..” 🤣
this is one of the many reasons i could never be a fighter. the idea of another man bending my knee the way its not supposed to go makes me cringe so hard. these guys are insane
I was hoping you’d do this one. Cheers doc.
It looked painful to see that 😳😬
Impressive that the dude somehow managed to with the fight
Wait he won??? After that leg lock?!?!
@NIGHTVISIONTV
Yes
@NIGHTVISIONTV yeah he won by choking his opponent a few seconds later after getting out of that nasty kneebar
That kneebar was too deep for it to have been just a sprain
He walked under his own power after the fight out of the octagon to the back....people forget that
wall01 dude he only got a minor mcl tear. This doctor was completely off
his surgery and rehab is gonna cost more than he got paid for the fight.
he is not from USA so his surgery will cost 0
@A good point. UFC would also cover because it was in competition. Still the time out of competition will probably cost him more than the win bonus. Who knows though, being undefeated has a lot of monetary value.
@A And it will take a year to get the surgery scheduled. The NHS in UK is absolutely absymal
@Woah Black Betty Tom aspinal got his knee surgery p quick
@Hanson probably went private
Yall sew how his opponent is pulling and gritting his teeth man that was insane
Great video as always. Could you make one about Edwin Diaz?
(When you don't tap the knee will snap.)😂💯
If the bone aint showin, keep on goin
ive broken both my ankles skateboarding and when you hyper extend something it swells immediately he probably couldn't walk like halfway through walking to the back. jumping fences with an ankle that is swelling rapidly is horrible. im sure he felt that. right after the winner announcement
What we’re you going for during the slam - fellow skater just curious
@Nyan Cat nollie flip a 5 that had a 5' flat after it and i rolled it off the last curb i had to clear lol never tried it again
Would you consider doing an analysis of the Edwin Diaz injury?
Dan Hardy might not tap to elbows, but he's tapping to knees.
love Dr sutterer breakdown's...
Seems like he might have jeopardized the rest of his career for this one win - knees aren't like Shins wherein fighters can come back without movement issues- Anderson Silva the prime example, seems like knees linger for the rest of your career because they aren't replaceable and so vital to leg flexibility. Every future opponent of Mokaev is going to attack his left leg.
This is exactly what I wanted to know when I was watching the fights!
Was in a wrestling tourny and once seen a guy land wrong on his leg and watched his knee cap go too his ankles , he fell then grabbed it going ow ow ow ow and pulled it back up into place . sick lol.
I think that was worse than Oliveiras armbar on Tony. Possibly.
Can you do a video breakdown of Victor Oladipos injury that he just had tonight??
that was brutal to watch as a jits practitioner
But no one talks about the first round tap mokaev did 😂
STOOPID not to tap there....
But in any case it highlights how little UFC fighter make relative to the abuse they endure in the octagon. Sad.
Apparently Bisping asked him what the pain was like out of 10.
He pretty much said worse than a 10 and this is a guy who's used to submission attempts.
You aren't going to be in a knee bar for that long in training. He was not used to this.
This massive swelling happened to me once for just hitting the knee hard on the ground. But 2 weeks later I was 100% again, must have been a blood vessel or something? Seems like it could also be the case for this guy.
maybe i thought that was what happened to my right knee , just a bruise with swelling from the bleeding , years later my is messed up . i have no insurance so can’t see a dr to fix it
I just knew when I saw this live, I’d later see your video on it thank you as always sir.
Totally need a doctor in a fight camp, so they can guide fighters to know exactly what and how to break
Please cover the Achilles injury suffered by South African cricketer Keshav Maharaj recently in the 2nd Test against the West Indies.
I know he was thinks not tapping was the better decision for his career, but I'm almost certain it was not.
Very informative video 🙏
I saw a guy refuse to tap in a similar situation in a recent Belator match, but he didn't win.
The Mongolian dude in ONE was the worst. Every ligament snapped and his meniscus torn in half. Absolutely destroyed.
@Japan Unfound That's the one I was trying to think of.
thanks for the vid, Doc! that was the nastiest submission I've ever seen before, thanks for the explanation
technically it wasnt an submission, even though it should have been one, but a submission attempt.
Wow thanks what a great analysis
Opponent, who lost, probably knows he fkd up at time he went easy and didn’t fully snap the leg.
If he tapped he wouldn't of got the job done. Heart of a lion, broke the other guys spirit. And buy the sounds of it in the post presser he would do it again..
Since he was being stubborn corner should have thrown towel. Now he might never be the same and all his future opponents will aim for that knee. Not worth risking for the result of one low profile fight at a young age
And now PG of the Clippers just hyperextended or straight up blew out his knee today too. Shame.
Finally just a grade 2 MCL lesion...😂
I love doing this move during street fights but eye gouging is still my go to tbh
You've never been a fight stop the cap 🤣🤣🤣
Update he said he only suffered a minor mcl tear
He tweeted out saying that the tap and L on the record would hurt a lot more then the knee. Crazy how he still got the finish!! Another great video DR!
Figures after Izzy was talking about how this dude would be champ.
What kinda career ending injury you want my man?
Mokhaev: What about one on the prelims, fighting an unranked fighter?
he definitely wont be the new youngest champ anymore 😂
Nothing funny abt it
Bruh said he wants to fight again in july! Good luck to him.
@Sheriff It is funny when he is shortening his carreer and saying dumb shit like he will never tap
@Sheriff Funny that he didn't tap because he refused to have a L on his record. Anyone else would just tap in that spot but he sacrificed his knee and at least 9 months of time out due to pride. There is always something funny about guys knowing they can tap but refusing to do so due to their egos being too big
@James Thompson Ok
I hyper extended my right knee so bad 9 years ago, I broke my kneecap
Jeez did you ever get back to 100?
@Brandon Rothsman not fully. Still having issues with it
@David Jenkins yikes how did that even happen?
@Brandon Rothsman I'm a mechanic and I was trying to get out of a car with a broken seat and put too much weight on my right leg trying to keep myself from falling and lost that battle. My knee immediately swelled up to the size of a softball and stayed like that for 8 months
@David Jenkins god damn man 8 months?? Safe to say it’s over for our young friend Mokaev then. Thats unfortunate
Doc. Does it again 👌🏼👌🏼
Watching that live made me sweat
Doc I need an update on that PG injury
There was no way to get out of that lock should have tapped, it’s worth getting to fight another day
He ended up escaping and winning the fight…
@Snandrew but will it be worth it for his longevity and career...
@Snandrew didn’t save his leg from getting mangled though
@HighestCreations true, but it seems like the win mattered more to him than saving his knee
@Snandrew oh yeah absolutely, for most fighters that’s the case. I did Jiu Jitsu for a while and learned to tap if you get into any heel hooks or leg attacks, you can’t even do leg attacks or heel hooks in my gym until you were a brown belt, It’s just not worth it at the level we were at and even at a professional level getting a lock like that, it is extremely easy to break or pull something that would put you out of fighting for a very long time and like Brian Sutterer MD had said it could have an affect on the rest of your life physically
I will tap just seeing that leg going the wrong way... Yikes!
being honest, i’d probably faint 🤣
Would an LCL not swell the joint as well Doctor?
It would be cool if you had a virtual dummy you could use to demonstrate the over extensions and impact injuries kind of like 1,000 ways to die
I'd go to sleep rather than tap.... However I'm tapping immediately to any arm/kneebar
That boys gonna dominate that division if he recovers
by barely edging out a win over an unranked guy and almost losing? lol. He ain't dominating shit besides journeymen.
Lol just because he got caught in a submission and didn't tap? That's an unranked opponent who didn't look all that great. Pantoja strangles this kid.
@jaime parra no this guy has the whole pack
@Curt Harakaly enjoy your new champion boy
I really thought i was gonna see it snap live, fucking hell
Mokaev is an absolute savage, fr