How Odell Beckham Jr Tore an ACL He Didn't Have
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 เม.ย. 2024
- During Super Bowl 56, Odell Beckham Jr tore an ACL that he supposedly didn't even have. After his latest press conference revelations, let's take a closer look at this confusing story.
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I recently had a similar experience - I tore my ACL in November 2021, but I actually regained mobility pretty quick and had assumed it was just sprained. It got better and I played 5 rugby games in 2022 before having 2 very similar instances to what happened to Odell. I finally had an MRI in 2022 which confirmed my ACL was fully torn. Im currently still waiting for surgery.
Kinda happened to my uncle when he was younger. He told me a decade ago so I don’t fully remember the story, but I believe he tore it the first time playing football, never got surgery but it stopped bothering him, and then YEARS later it gave out while he was hiking and finally went to a doctor and was told it was completely shredded and there wasn’t anything left of it
@@bigpapi6688 yep sounds the same. It works fine in a straight line, but every now and then you can step sideways and it just feels slightly off. Thankfully the hamstring and other ligaments are strong enough to keep it together…
Get rite twin 🙏🙌
Make sure to start therapy the day after surgery... DO NOT WASTE ANYTIME. It is critical...
That’s mad, what position in rugby you played if your a forward that would be awed up with the pressure on your knees
Odell is such a route technician that I fully believe this story. On technique alone he could protect himself from a lot. I think it's partially the middle of the field being slippery, partially the turf, and partially him getting a little excited and playing a little more loosely because he was killing it that game.
He was definitely getting loose, that hip sink as he drew the ball in was sloppy by his standards, he had his feet so far in front of himself, and on grass I think his foot might slide rather than his knee
@@mards2479ball was also thrown a bit behind him causing him to have to make that body position adjustment in a more vulnerable spot on the field due to conditions.
slippery turf is criminal. this last SB it was like a third team playing against both. if school kids were playing on such a field it would be a problem, but in the NFL that makes billions, it's fine to have poor conditions--makes it more entertaining i guess. smh
@@MrJCerqueira The difference is the way it was treated. The SB where he got hurt, it was basically the standard turf that was there, and knowing he already had it torn pregame makes even more sense why that motion made it worse. This past one, it was on a new sheet of grass that the NFL grew just for the game, and they had to paint the entire thing because it wasnt green enough and the paint didnt dry right. Not the first time they did it, if you remember NE vs Seattle, a bunch of the Pats jerseys were covered in green paint from the turf, but the paint was dry to where it didnt effect their traction
2 years ago I tore my ACL during practice, which was diagnosed with an MRI, but I didn't do any surgery, only kinesitherapy. 6 Months later I could perform in sports like I did before. An knee specialist explained me, that in some cases the ACL can tear, but the synovial membrane tube that lies around the ACL doesn't. In that case it is possible that the ACL can regrow. I am so happy that I didn't opt for surgery.
I was similar on my first tear but I ended up getting a bad car accident shortly after and never restrengthened my leg muscles properly. And starting playing again and being a very skilled baasketball. Player I knew how to get my shot off still without having to be very physical when finishing. But having all those instincts of playing like Odell your adrenaline will be too high and u will make a mistake and buckle the knee. I now have torn it twice since with no surgery. It’s shot. No acl meniscus gone. Luckily I’m 22 and still have hope. Just going to do a full reconstruction and strengthen my leg muscles the best I can and stay off the court. Because I know myself. I’ll start by shooting around. And not turn down a 2v2 game and shoot lights out and win. And I’ll tell people I’m hurt and everyone’s like your not hurt.
Did you hear about Lisandro Martinez fracturing a metatarsal on a non-contact play? It would be awesome to hear you talk about that! Initially there were rumors of an achilles injury which scared all the Manchester United/Argentina fans.
A breakdown of Spencer Lee's NCAA National Wrestling championship win "without" ACL's would be a great breakdown video! Thank you for the fantastic videos, Doc!
Odell is gonna have one of the most dynamic and abnormal careers ever. Everything he’s been through is wild and he’s still standing with the potential to regain elite form 🫡
He most definitely will. I hope like hell he can stay healthy he bout to show a lot of mfs he still like that.
You sound like a delusional Ravens fan
I’m not even into football like that anymore but when I was he was one of the best in the game I hope he ball out this season and get back to being OBJ
Crazy how he broke hes leg too in 2017. Dude is a warrior. Not easy to rebuild your lower body after waiting during surgery
Sadly, I think he's done; At least being the elite of elite. Injuries fucking suck man. So many this season
Great video, very informative. Thanks for the hard work, you did a great job explaining medical information to someone like me that had no background for that.
I lived with a fully torn ACL for about 12 years. For the most part I was able to function perfectly fine with a few exceptions.
Running was fine, but stopping, cutting was a problem. I had to consciously protect my knee when doing those things. Usually problems occurred when I wasn't expecting it. Things like stepping down from a ladder would easily hyperextend my knee if I wasn't careful. Slipping on ice would often hyperextend it. The hamstring muscles do support the joint, but their reaction time is not as fast as a ligament.
While I believe that a highly trained athlete would be able to function without an ACL it seems unlikely that he would be able to play receiver. Its more likely that it was partially torn.
You’re not a doctor bro 😭😂😂 - stop acting like you know.
agreed, when mine was torn i couldn't cut even once, and the routes that receivers run are just about the most stressful thing on the knee possible.
Hines Ward played his entire NFL career without an acl in one knee. It was caught at his combine physical and he was drafted anyway.
@@dylanrogers2085 Nor are you bro. LMFAO. Stop acting like a fool.
as much as i believe you, the fact is NFL-level receivers/players in general have a level of fitness that does not compare to the typical person, or even the average athlete. although I don't know anything about you, maybe you are a super athlete, i think its entirely possible OBJ's active-stabilizing muscles are 2x, even 4x as strong or as dense as ours, and are able to make up for a torn ACL in ways ours just can't. he's trained those movements at a high level nearly everyday for a decade, those muscles gotta be far superior
In 2014, my senior year of high school, I was in a nasty accident on the track while working 4x1 handoffs. Long story short I was advised I bruised my tibia but this makes me wonder if I tore/partially tore my ACL. It was painful to walk and it lingered the entire track season.
I actually went through the same thing can do a lot without an ACL. I had multiple of these instability episodes before I got surgery and they only kept me out anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months on the worst one
John Elway had no ACL, which is interesting because he was scrambling quarterback. He had an interesting walk.
@Jon948 Roy Hibbert had torn both acls. If I remember correctly, he played his entire basketball career like that.
Great video! Would you do a video of Mallory Swanson's injury?? I don't believe you have done a petalla tendon video. Thanks Doc!
Dejuan Blair played seven years in the NBA without either of his ACL's, so it's not unfathomable as some may think.
San Antonia Spurs. I remember him. He had two ACL surgeries, both failed, so his body was able to slowly adjust to the missing ACLs.
I played soccer for 5 years without an ACL. Had allograft reconstruction in October. Knee was feeling more unstable with time and Dr. Said It will cause further meniscus damage.
Why did you get an allograft and not autograft? Loool
@@xXxALeXFuTexBaLxXx because then you also have to rehab the part of the body that got the graft removed, in this case either the ACL or patella. His surgeon might have also just had a preference.
Just wondering if you can make a video to explain the Lisandro Martinez injury. Sources say he broke a metatarsal bone. Would love if you explained this injury.
Shout out Spencer Lee, dude won wrestling natty without 2 acls.
Hey Brian, can you do an Analysis on Lisandro Martinez fracturing his 5th metatarsal during a game? He's a CB for Manchester United.
You beat me to it lol, I’m super interested in learning more about it. My first thought was an achilles injury since it was non-contact
I didn’t know you could break a bone on something so seemingly innocuous
@@bccbaron12 I vaguely remember hearing something about the metatarsal not getting alot of blood cus there's no veins or something that go down there. I'm probably talking shit and remembering it wrong but I knew as soon as we found out it wasn't an Achilles that I needed Brian to explain it cus Martinez is soooooo good.
@@reecemcveigh4468 To add some shit talking of my own lol, this reminded me of Wayne Rooney's infamous metatarsal fracture in 2006. Lisandro's just seems so much more innocuous though compared to Rooney where he really came down hard and twisted his foot.
@@reecemcveigh4468 Coincidentally, one of the top videos when looking up Rooney's injury is from Dr. Sutterer. It's from 4 years ago and is about Neymar's metatarsal fracture. There wasn't a biodigital anatomy tool yet, and Brian says it's his very first video about soccer lol. I'd say Lisandro's injury is worth covering just based on how much this channel has grown since then.
The job of a trainer is not to heal their player. It's to get them back on the field as quickly as possible.
Very interesting, I have a fully repaired and grafted MCL, from 2016, my second surgery on this right knee!! a little less invasive than an ACL but similar!
I broke my arm but didn’t have a arm actually
i stubbed my toe, that disappeared
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Hines Ward played his whole college, and pro career without an ACL. Tore it when he was a kid and never knew it.
I been living without an ACL for almost 20 years due to a basketball injury and then subsequent surgeries that didn't go right and brought me back to no ACL
You breaking down how the hamstring is essentially doing what the acl wants to do but actively was great. Ive learned early on to strengthen the knees the muscles around have to be strong to support etc. Hence why i love leg day, aside from the testosterone boost before working out lol Love your channel man
It’s like you were in my thoughts and posted what I was wondering
You signed by Baltimore as a rams still grateful for what you did for the team bro
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It's a bit of a different sport, but in the Australian Football League, we recently had a player with a long history of concussions suffer one of the most inocuous concussions I've ever seen and I was wondering if you could do a video about how he may have been concussed
For backstory, his name is Paddy McCartin and he was drafted in 2014 and played for a team between 2015 and 2019. During that time he suffered 8 concussions before retiring due to ongoing complications.
A couple of years later, he was cleared to play by doctors and in 2021 returned through the VFL (basically like the NBA's G-League) and was then signed to an AFL team. He suffered another concussion in 2022 but was able to return, however this next one which happened a week ago was so innocuous as his head basically grazed the turf. It's started a significant amount of discussion around whether it's worth him trying to return to footy again.
There’s no vids I can find on TH-cam other than news reports, but this is the video of the incident from the AFL website
www.afl.com.au/video/899672/luckless-mccartin-suffers-cruel-injury-blow?videoId=899672&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1680947467001
Nobody watches that shit
Super common in MMA and wrestling. I've been missing my left ACL for 2 or 3 years now. I can't even tell it's not there half the time. Lot of effort but it feels stronger now than before the tear.
Reminds me of DeJuan Blair story. The man played in the NBA without ACL in both of his knees.
You learn something new everyday
Absolutely insane
Just for this video title you NEED more subs!
I once walked and played around on a torn Achilles tendon that I sustained from Cross Country/Track and Field for about 2-3 years without really knowing it. The only reason I finally went to see a specialist is because I noticed that I had to constantly be stretching my foot upward because I felt tightness in the back of my heel that ached, and my entire foot would go limp if I scuffed my heel a certain way when walking. So not surprised that Odell was able to play at a high-level still while basically missing an ACL. Granted ligaments are different from tendons, but still, playing on anything thats structurally not secure like is unusual. Here’s hoping Odell is fully healthy playing for the Ravens.
I had a patellar tendon graft in 2017 and sometimes i have that instability action too
Same here, knee feels solid but every once in a while its like my brain mis fires and my knee moves weird
I only just found out a month ago that I haven't had an ACL since I wrecked my motorcycle in June of 2015. I was led to believe that it was only partially torn but it turns out that I've been hiking, biking, and skating on a non-existent ACL for almost 8 years and will now be losing the last half of my summer to surgery and rehab.
It’s crazy how it didn’t come out until now
I tore my left acl in 1981 playing flag football. In those days the surgery was brutal, flaying your whole leg open to make the repair. My ortho recommended I rehab and stop playing football and basketball since my main sport was skiing. I came back and skied more than 100 days that winter and didn't look back for 23 years until the meniscus shredded on a trail run in 2004. Then I had acl reconstruction with patellar tendon autograft, 70% menisectomy, and microfracture. A recent MRI shows that the acl is still intact but I feel that it has always been kind of loose. I had full range of motion a week after the surgery, which isn't normal. So I can't cut at all. That will cause an instability event and it will hurt like hell even though there is an acl in there. But I can run, ski, climb, and live an active life at age 66. I'm strong and I know how to protect myself in those activities. There is no way I could protect myself in football or basketball. Because of my experience I understand how OBJ could have got through a few games as a wide receiver without one. But it was not going to be sustainable and history shows that. My question is if the Rams knew, did they have an agreement with him to let him play and he would not sue them if he injured his leg worse in just this kind of incident? Seems to me a team would have either voided his contract or insisted he get surgery to protect their investment. It doesn't make sense to me.
This is really interesting
interesting video though. one of my favorites of yours.
My dad is 65 torn his ACL back in the 80s he's been fine without it since.
Dejuan Blair played many years in the NBA with ACL in both knees torn
These guys are so freakishly strong they have enough muscle to compensate for a completely screwed up muscle. amazing. Always kinda been obvious though. not that surprising the 100th example I see of it.
Can you make a video about Lisandro Martinez injury?
Hines award played his whole career without an ACL.
I had a cross country teammate who ran his entire college running career without an ACL. So it's not surprising that Odell was playing with a torn ACL.
Your running in a straight most of the time, odell is doinf twists n turns stopping and starting constantly
Now where does the stress transfer to during those instability movements? Without the ACL to take the stress of the anterior tibial translation, does the pressure and pain transfer to the hamstring specifically? What stress caused him to leave the game?
Nobody else thinks it’s hilarious that the top surgeon in SoCal is named “L.A. trash?”
When i was 17, i tore my acl in basketball but kept playing thinking i was fine 2 weeks later, got hurt again feeling like i torn it again with the same pain, then played again a week later and injured it further. Rehabed for 8 months not knowing it was torn and immediately got hurt again despite training on it the entire 8 months feeling fine, again it felt like i tore my acl all over again and worse
I think I've been living with a torn acl myself. No pain at all ?
@@BLK_GOD unlikely
@DoomsSports unlikely to have pain so how do you know it's torn ?
@@BLK_GOD I tore my ACL and lived with it for a year, it's not hard to believe you can walk and do daily activities with out, Now when I went to hoop, every other session my knee would give out. Then one instability episode was so bad I also tore my meniscus and then got surgery on them both. Personally if i never wanted to play sport again i would of just opted for no surgery and worked with a physical therapist for a while
@ScHoops I'm just not sure what's going on with my knee and suspect I could have an acl issue. I am active in the gym and haven't had to stop doing anything and it's been about 2.5 years with this "different" feeling in my knee but no pain.
Man I tore my patellar tendon and before then I thought an ACL tear was the worst thing to happen inside your knee and I wish I would have torn my ACL instead.
My best buddy had his ACL accidentally cut by a doctor who was operating on his meniscus. He needed a ACL reconstruction.
Wow. Hope he sues.
This happened to me I was shooting basketballs with my friends and made a quick move and hit the ground hard my boys said my is broken by the way they saw me fall but I had a torn ligament before shooting basketballs
Happened to me as well …. Sometimes the muscles around the knee are strong enough to keep u stable
dont they replace it with part of his hamstring so thats probably what tore if he did reconstruction surgery is my guess
Can you do a video on Lisandro Martinez?
My buddy in high school tore his ACL in a 1st quarter of a high school basketball game. He finished the game and then two days later he went to Drs and found out it was torn.
You see this a lot with PCLs in linebackers
Two ACL’s and Baltimore gives OBJ $15 million. He’s aging. His body is breaking down and he is in a position where sprints. Bad investment.😊
Hmm explains his route tree a lot that season.
Cool video!
Actually there are high-quality evidence regarding conservative treatment of the torn ACL. Shoutout to OSLO-DELAWARE cohort study 😊
I don’t have a right ACL but i wear my brace faithfully , those “episodes of instability” will have my whole leg swollen
I'm still confused. So did he, or did he not have surgery to repair his ACL after the first time it was torn? Are you saying that the initial surgery was unsuccessful? Can he sue the doctor(s) who performed the initial surgery?
Sources says he had surgery after the Super Bowl game cleaning up the problem involving his ACL. So he sat out a year recovering, now all hopes to stay healthy🙏🏾
That’s crazy
i think teams should have to pay a penalty for players pain and suffering when they feild injured players . RG3 was totally destroyed by Washington . i remembers watching that game screaming at my scream for them to sit him down , next play tears his knee to shit
So doc, how do they repair an invisible ACL?
My buddy has been playing softball and basketball for years with our a ACL. He wares a brace all the time.
that's what I was thinking, if they knew he had torn ACL, why didn't they make him ware a brace? I tore mine back in 1989, never had it fixed (Dr. said because of other injuries I would never be active enough to worry about it), so now, whenever I do any relatively stressful activities, like riding a bike, hiking, or when I go wading in the rivers while fishing, I always ware my brace. Maybe a brace wouldn't allow him to run at lightning speed???
@@kalaiolele8796 you said it yourself- brace probably wouldnt allow him to make sharp cuts and it would be really uncomfortable to run full speed
@@leoferencak6093 I figured...but then again, even with my old ACL I could never run, cut or jump like OBJ
Can you talk about Szczęsny? He had to be replaced in Juventus-Sporting game 2 days ago because he felt heart palpitations
How useful and knee braces and straps be in this type of case ?
A running back was just drafted tonight and he literally has no acl
Please cover US Soccer star Mallory Swanson’s torn patellar tendon.
No risk no reward
Makes me think alot, in high school I tore my acl and one doctor said surgery was possibly needed and another said that the tear was partial enough for it to heal well. I remember being on crutches for 6 months til it was stable enough to walk on, but I dont quite remember following up too much with any xrays of it. So I wonder how it really healed
Were you really on crutches for 6 months? Why?
@MrGottster an ACL tear has a recovery time of 8-10 months typically but can be as little as 6 months in some cases ?
@@pengu4932 8-10 months to get back to sport yes. After surgery you need crutches for 4-6 weeks. When I tore my acl I didn't use crutches at all. And it also sounds like you had a partial tear, not a ful tear. Who made you walk with crutches for so long?
@MrGottster my body literally being unable to walk without them. Again as stated previously one doctor said it was partial but I literally had to hop on one foot for like 3 months before I could even walk with very little pressure on it
Hines Ward has entered the chat
that’s so confusing
Very confusing especially when the player himself said he tore an ACL he did not have.
How is that confusing? The NFL is scripted.
Dante Martin from AEW had a terrible leg break in AEW wrestling doing some crazy move. It’s nasty.
Then what, exactly, was the injury sustained in the Super Bowl? The ACL was already fully torn. That caused the instability in the knee. But then what is the type of injury this caused that happened during the SB?
the ACL was fully torn, but the hamstring was functionally keeping the femur stably attached to the tibia in a way that gave Odell his full range of normal motion in his legs, it was that sudden cut on the injury play, of him seemingly catching his cleat in the turf, that jerked the femur forward in a way that it was no longer stably on top of the tibia without the assistance of the acl, and therefore that leg would no longer be stable and able to give him his full range of motion until rehab was completed again. at least that’s my understanding of it, it’s about the positioning and stability of the femur relative to the tibia
Also how he had no brace that would prevent hypertension is weird bc I had to play with a brace on. Playing without one wasn’t even a option is was too painful
Note the stabilizing part he mentioned
Relevant precedent: Hines Ward played the entirety of his very good career without a functioning ACL in his left knee.
Turns out you don’t need an ACL to blindside block people as that was Hines specialty
So what I don't understand is what happened during the first surgery. Was the ACL never fixed, or was it torn again at another time?
2:45 bro.
Duan Blair supposedly had either no ACLs in either knee when he played for the Spurs
Either two torn ACL or nothing at all
What are the consequence of having these instability episodes? I mean, if his ACL was already torn, he should be able to play again after some rest cause he didn't tear anything new?
Vegas is in full control of the sports industry
Didn't John Elway play his whole career without an ACL?
that explains why he ran weird.
He lost his ACL privileges
No ACL? He has a Fetlock instead. Hee hee hee, ha ha.
Interesting
I liked the Booker jersey on the skeleton better...
So why didn't he get surgery sooner and when did he finally get it?
I just love how all the Twitter experts were clowning OBJ and talking shit about him and saying he was lying and dramatizing things because "that's who he is." lol.
Plus, fans don't even have a remote clue of how often these players play injured and hide injuries as well. It has happened since the beginning of time I'm sure. This is why I never get upset when players are injured like alot of other fans do.
I played football on a torn ACL shit was too painful u cut every play no matter what position fr. So how he played WR idk bc my knee would give out and I would just fall in pain
And how did Dennis Dixon do with a torn ACL at Oregon? Answer? Not well…
John Elway played his whole career without an ACL so it's definitely possible.
He did. He walked like a cowboy. But Elway would still scramble and squatted 400 plus, so was able to stabilize his knee.
As we can see and as I've said many times before, Odell Beckham got injured because of trying to compensate for a terrible throw by Matthew Stafford. The Rams won that Super Bowl in spite of Matthew Stafford, not because of him.
Look back at Zach Lavine, tore his ACL and played like 5 more minutes after.
How y’all playin with an torn acl. I tore mine in 2019 and my knee still doesn’t feel the same
D-wade played his whole career without his mcl
You not gonna mention John Elway?
What are you talking about everybody knew he was coming off a torn ACL a year before! And everybody new it was risky.
Why has everyone been losing there voice lately. I lost my voice and just recovered recently
so why was he in pain? i do believe he tore it before but why would he be in pain if it was already torn.
Tearing ur ACL then getting surgery involves reconstruction, meaning they take a tendon from another part of ur body (hamstring tendon, patellar tendon, or quadriceps tendon) and use it to make a new ACL in the knee. This new ACL is referred to as an "ACL graft" This is what odell did the first time he tore his ACL so this is likely him tearing his ACL graft, which doc says was already nonfunctional in the MRI which prob means it was partially torn already but this was probably it fully tearing and the tibia shifting forward.
Odell knees,acl,mcl and simply legs are completely destroyed I don't understand why ravens signed him go on him to sneak in 1 more season
Think about how will these instability episodes effect the long term of his articular cartilage and mensci. But, he’ll be making millions willing Super Bowls, he can afford a few total knees and a couple inches of bone, he earned that right!
NFL does stand for Not For Long