I've learned to have friends but to be very cautious! Learn to walk alone if need be!! I no longer want or need a "best friend!" It's just too much emotional turmoil.
I totally agree. I think the term "best friends" is a 'young' thing. I have 2 dependable friends in my life, and the rest are acquaintances, so I consider myself very lucky.
If you havnt hurt or offended someone, and they choose to not want to be friends with you any more - Forget it! Forget them!. They have made a choice so LET THEM. Who needs or wants people who dont want you? We dont own anyone. Let them go and wish them well.. dont analyse it too much.
HAHA! I couldn't agree with you more...I'm an older man who still possess the ability to evoke the spirit of great male figureheads of history such as Attila the Hun for example and for some reason I have "offended " certain females when I display public manners such as opening the door and paying the bill during a formal dining setting...without any form of recognition....it's my display of honor....that's only the tip of the iceberg....when it comes to examples...I just have to laugh.
@@Jamiwrites got that right. I had a friend since high school that we used to Chum together all the time and when she went away to college she didn't have the time for me at all. Years later she got a hold of me and needed to know some information, at the time I had moved to the United States out by Seattle and she wanted to know how to do it, after that never heard from her for many years. At that point she got a hold of me and asked me to hook back up again and start talking to one another and I told her no. Man it was the best thing that I've ever done. I was so glad to actually stand up to her and say no. I don't want to be a fair-weather friend.
I am the youngest of four sisters raised by a dysfunctional mother. At 70 I recently had to dump the second eldest sister. Not easy but liberating. I idolized her, and finally realized she was the extension of THE women that manipulated so many and encouraged divisions between we four.
At 54, I no longer desire a "best friend." It's too much effort and too risky. I completely agree with the idea of having friendly aquaintences that you can enjoy certain things with, while not setting myself up to be ghosted or betrayed. Love your channel.
The most important relationship you have is with yourself and God. If you have neglected these... a friendship will never fill that void. So ladies, please examine what you are bringing into a friendship. Water your own garden first.
This topic really hits close to home with me. I have blamed myself for years about losing friends that I thought would be friends for life. I always wondered what I did wrong to cause these people to dump me. I have realized now that this is just the natural ebb and flow of relationships. I have finally stopped blaming myself and enjoy the few really good friends that I do have and have been friends with for years. I don’t want to play the popularity game anymore, my few very close friends are enough ! I really enjoy your topics of conversation ! 💖💖💖
Thank you for sharing this message . It was almost like a reassurance for me that ending an unhealthy female friendship was okay. I can move on without regrets. Just like I moved on and ended relationships with guys I dated in college. I can do the same thing with female friendships if necessary. What a revelation!😊
I have had a best friend for about 55 years. She drives me crazy when she visits. Usually though it's just every 4-5 years. We have not lived in the same state for 45 years and it works for us, it's probably why we are still friends. The thing is, it's that we each know, and this is absolutely, that we are there for each other. We have been through the wringer with each other since childhood and always stand with each other. Other friends have come and gone and that ok by me.
I just haven’t had examples of long term friendships growing up… just long list of revolving door of acquaintances. A lot of surface level, no depth.. now it’s like what is that even look like? Some of us desire to know and be known. .. just don’t know how to do it.
I went to a all girls school, I’m 63 now, had a dysfunctional mother who belittled me, had a mean female cousin, long story short had to let go of a mean, judgemental “oh poor me” friend two weeks ago that was so demanding, when I said no to her demands she got mean ……😂 I must laugh or I will cry, the red flags were there all the time yet I hung on …..with all the bad experience of women in my life why would I think i could have a good female friend !
Women often want to recreate some of the experiences many had in childhood when they may have had a best friend with whom they could share their secrets and laugh and cry together. Meeting people when you are older is different because now the two of you have a past. So, maybe you bond at the dog park with another woman over your love of standard poodles. Over time, the fact that Candy is a married, stay-at-home mom with three kids means she lives a very different life than Mary, a single, workaholic woman with no kids. Sometimes this matters. Sometimes it doesn't. But we shouldn't be surprised when it does.
Around 15 years ago I went to a therapist because I thought something was wrong with me because I could not find any new friendships. The few friends I did have at the time moved or we just changed directions. After we talked a bit she said there was nothing wrong with me, I was funny and a delight to talk to. Since then I have made a few, but as of lately they seemed to have move on. Nice to find a channel with those I can relate to and not alone in my struggles.
Friendship struggles seem to make lots of sense to me because we all have so much working against us. Social media is the biggest but even the ability to binge 100s of television shows at any time. All contribute to making it easy to have lazy entertainment Friendship, real in person relationships take time and effort and we are living in a world where effortless is easier. Glad you found the channel
Okay, growing up in the same community for years and having a life long friendship isn't what it's cracked up to be. I had a friendship with two ladies from middle school that turned out disastrous. Sometimes I wish I could have moved around and reinvented myself growing up.
I guess we always want what we don’t have. But I get what you’re saying. I’ve lived in the same city since I turned 40. It gets a bit ‘small’ after a while
While I wouldn't have called her a best friend, I was pretty good friends with an older lady from our church who was about my mother's age. I apparently offended her in some way so badly so that she refused to speak to me about it and decided to ignore me. Very weird thing for me to navigate as something like that has never happened to me before. I reached out a couple of times because if I had actually done something egregious I wanted to apologize but she refused to talk about it. She seldom speaks to me at church to the point of awkwardness but I have done all I can do. Ball is in her court although at this point I am not sure I would pass it back to her. If anyone is going to act like a grade Schooler over something that IDon't even know about, they are probably not worth being friends with. 😢
I have been hurt by church ladies, of which I am one. I don't want to tell them how I was hurt. I had rather forgive and move on because if you hurt me and you don't see it, I doubt you will see it once I point it out. I've tried that too. Most people can reason away or make light of my pain. 😢
@@terrybrown3036 This happened to me recently too. I would bet you are probably on a long list of women that she has treated the same way, and she will behave this way towards others in the future. It is hurtful for sure but helps to know that you probably didn't do anything at all, that she is the one with the issues. I agree, you get to the point where you don't even want their friendship. It's their loss, that they don't see the value in your friendship.
Thank you for your video which summarizes so well that women often don't support one another. Having lost a dear one in recent times, I'm astounded how harsh and judgmental some females can be just when you need them the most.
Each one of us is on our own personal journey of life…on that journey of ours, people come in and out of your life along the way. Because they are on their own path! Love your channel!
I think people should live spherically. Various interests, married and single friends, family, neighbors, etc., etc., of both sexes as well as a focus on oneself, keep us from focusing on one friend and that one relationship. That is giving too much power to that one person whether they family or friend, and/or raise our expectations from them. It all leads to disappointments or control.
So happy for your great words of wisdom on an important topic. ! I am early 70's & last 2 women friends of more than 3 years have not worked out. Political differences have ended both. Too sad - so I'm moving on - Got 2 new kittens about 7 months ago & trying to forget these women. Your videos are so inspirational - thanks a bunch!
Oh definitely! I’ve had two friends dump me when I tried to help them out of abusive relationships with me. Women excuse inexcusable behavior from men. I blame our societal upbringing.
I grieved the end of my friendship with this woman. I couldn't believe what the friendship had turned into. Not much more to say... I like your perspective on this. Something to think about.
I clearly say twice that it’s valuable if you feel you need it but I don’t think women should be guilted into it as if something is wrong with us if we don’t have a therapist
Thank you for this video. I might not be in your target group for your videos bc I am 38 but you share a lot of wisdom. There is a lot of pressure on women these days that bring a lot of suffering. It’s helps to know I am not alone.
I just wanna say that I love your channel. I am over 50 but I’m still learning a lot from you. Thank you for this great content about women’s relationships.
I moved a lot, and the girls in my small high school class (92’), are all still friends. I haven’t spoken to any of them or cared what they did since high school. I never revisit old friendships that fall away and we don’t have to have a “best friend”… a variety of acquaintances and friends is just fine. Some people don’t want friends, either.
Many friends gossip about you if you’re in the same social circle. It gets back to the gossipy and is very destructive. Why can’t women be loyal? I think there’s jealousy and mental illness that create this.
Current status of female childhood "besties" 30 years later : 1. rarely talk ever. We have different lives now.. 2. Have not talked in 15 years. 3. Haven't talked in 10 years after she ghosted me for an event and never called me again. 4. A close bestie and later an ex that I ache with kindred spirit longing for but for now the door is closed (has been for 20 years). I wish we would have just been friends.
You are saying so much that I feel too. Why is ‘the bestie’ thing ends can’t we just stay friendly acquaintances. Why does it have to be all or none way too often
Ditto… these are the conversations I wish I heard my mom and aunts talk about… but they’re too scared to talk about? I guess we’re just inheriting these issues bc we’re not talking about it..
There’s a lot to be said about the old adage; For a season, a reason or a lifetime. Seasons are okay for both parties, no need to over egg the pudding.
Thank you for your channel, Laura, and talking about friendships among women. I feel I am not alone! In the past, I shared with a friend my hurt over another friend ghosting me. Subsequently, later the person I shared with ghosted me. Now I have decided to not share so much. Those feelings arise, of what did I do wrong, did I say something that offended them? Did my sharing expose me to their judgement of who I am as a person? Feeling shamed for being vulnerable. Even when asked, you likely will not get an honest answer. I focus more on my family now. Why don't they like me? Let it go, because many times the answer is already there; we have to accept it. As you mention, I would have wanted to meet a little girl in elementary school, that would have been my life-long friend. If ever anyone finds that, what a wonderful blessing!
It’s so impressive that your TH-cam channel is only four months old and you have just shy of 8 k subs wow that’s amazing ! Learning you’ve been in office that’s also an amazing tidbit we’re learning ! I went to a therapist once as directed by my oldest sister , to learn I don’t have problems but my sister who sent me does ! Trauma Dump I’m just loving that phrase and your message today ! Thankyou Laura ❤️
It’s a taboo subject. A therapist will be happy to hear you rant a rave about a failed romantic relationship, but they’ll dismiss a failed long term friendship. They don’t get it’s as meaningful as a marriage for some women. We expect our bestie to have our back no matter what happens in life. If we go through a divorce, they’re there for us.
I just found out I have a family reunion to go to. It's my husband's family. I have no idea what to say to anybody. This would be a good topic for a video. What to say to people you haven't seen or talked to in years. Three years to be exact. The funeral of my mother in law was the last we saw each other. Awkward...
Thanks for the idea. Definitely want a list of conversational topics. I’d definitely check some of their social media. See if they’ve been up to anything interesting. I always ask about travel or something about where they live I talked to someone one time about the changing seasons🤷🏻♀️she lived in a state with distinct seasons I live in a State of extremes(Texas).
Hi Laura, thanks for sharing I appreciate your advice. Can you speak about ending friendships on social media like unfriending on social media and setting boundaries thanks
TY, Laura..a very relevant topic. Ive had friends who I considered "BFF's" who have just walked right out of my life, for no apparent reason. It's crushing, at times, because I'm a VERY loyal person by nature. I don't really understand it, especially when no angry words were exchanged, and, no closure. Still trying to figure it out. TFS . Rosemarie 🩷
I've learned to have friends but to be very cautious! Learn to walk alone if need be!! I no longer want or need a "best friend!" It's just too much emotional turmoil.
Agree💯
So true!
I totally agree. I think the term "best friends" is a 'young' thing. I have 2 dependable friends in my life, and the rest are acquaintances, so I consider myself very lucky.
If you havnt hurt or offended someone, and they choose to not want to be friends with you any more - Forget it! Forget them!. They have made a choice so LET THEM. Who needs or wants people who dont want you? We dont own anyone. Let them go and wish them well.. dont analyse it too much.
HAHA! I couldn't agree with you more...I'm an older man who still possess the ability to evoke the spirit of great male figureheads of history such as Attila the Hun for example and for some reason I have "offended " certain females when I display public manners such as opening the door and paying the bill during a formal dining setting...without any form of recognition....it's my display of honor....that's only the tip of the iceberg....when it comes to examples...I just have to laugh.
Thank you. Not everyone we lose is a loss, but a lesson we needed to learn.
Agree💯
@@Jamiwrites got that right. I had a friend since high school that we used to Chum together all the time and when she went away to college she didn't have the time for me at all. Years later she got a hold of me and needed to know some information, at the time I had moved to the United States out by Seattle and she wanted to know how to do it, after that never heard from her for many years. At that point she got a hold of me and asked me to hook back up again and start talking to one another and I told her no. Man it was the best thing that I've ever done. I was so glad to actually stand up to her and say no. I don't want to be a fair-weather friend.
I am the youngest of four sisters raised by a dysfunctional mother. At 70 I recently had to dump the second eldest sister. Not easy but liberating. I idolized her, and finally realized she was the extension of THE women that manipulated so many and encouraged divisions between we four.
Family relationships are the toughest to deal with. Lots of history, lots of emotion
At 54, I no longer desire a "best friend." It's too much effort and too risky. I completely agree with the idea of having friendly aquaintences that you can enjoy certain things with, while not setting myself up to be ghosted or betrayed. Love your channel.
Thanks so much!!! And thanks for sharing your thoughts
same
Thanks Laura...needed to hear that as I often feel down on myself when friendships end.
We’ve all been there, it’s normal and glad we are all talking about it❤️
The most important relationship you have is with yourself and God.
If you have neglected these... a friendship will never fill that void.
So ladies, please examine what you are bringing into a friendship.
Water your own garden first.
Always start with God
This topic really hits close to home with me. I have blamed myself for years about losing friends that I thought would be friends for life. I always wondered what I did wrong to cause these people to dump me. I have realized now that this is just the natural ebb and flow of relationships. I have finally stopped blaming myself and enjoy the few really good friends that I do have and have been friends with for years. I don’t want to play the popularity game anymore, my few very close friends are enough ! I really enjoy your topics of conversation ! 💖💖💖
Thank you so much! And thanks for sharing. Glad you found the channel
Thank you for sharing this message . It was almost like a reassurance for me that ending an unhealthy female friendship was okay. I can move on without regrets. Just like I moved on and ended relationships with guys I dated in college. I can do the same thing with female friendships if necessary. What a revelation!😊
Exactly!!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts
I have had a best friend for about 55 years. She drives me crazy when she visits. Usually though it's just every 4-5 years. We have not lived in the same state for 45 years and it works for us, it's probably why we are still friends. The thing is, it's that we each know, and this is absolutely, that we are there for each other. We have been through the wringer with each other since childhood and always stand with each other. Other friends have come and gone and that ok by me.
Every friendship looks different. And that’s a good thing❤️
Same here. I had to laugh because if one of them lived near by we would drive eachother nuts., but I love her dearly.
I just haven’t had examples of long term friendships growing up… just long list of revolving door of acquaintances. A lot of surface level, no depth.. now it’s like what is that even look like? Some of us desire to know and be known. .. just don’t know how to do it.
I went to a all girls school, I’m 63 now, had a dysfunctional mother who belittled me, had a mean female cousin, long story short had to let go of a mean, judgemental “oh poor me” friend two weeks ago that was so demanding, when I said no to her demands she got mean ……😂 I must laugh or I will cry, the red flags were there all the time yet I hung on …..with all the bad experience of women in my life why would I think i could have a good female friend !
Women often want to recreate some of the experiences many had in childhood when they may have had a best friend with whom they could share their secrets and laugh and cry together. Meeting people when you are older is different because now the two of you have a past. So, maybe you bond at the dog park with another woman over your love of standard poodles. Over time, the fact that Candy is a married, stay-at-home mom with three kids means she lives a very different life than Mary, a single, workaholic woman with no kids. Sometimes this matters. Sometimes it doesn't. But we shouldn't be surprised when it does.
Around 15 years ago I went to a therapist because I thought something was wrong with me because I could not find any new friendships. The few friends I did have at the time moved or we just changed directions.
After we talked a bit she said there was nothing wrong with me, I was funny and a delight to talk to.
Since then I have made a few, but as of lately they seemed to have move on.
Nice to find a channel with those I can relate to and not alone in my struggles.
Friendship struggles seem to make lots of sense to me because we all have so much working against us. Social media is the biggest but even the ability to binge 100s of television shows at any time. All contribute to making it easy to have lazy entertainment Friendship, real in person relationships take time and effort and we are living in a world where effortless is easier. Glad you found the channel
Of course its okay! If someone doesnt appreciate my sense of humor or how my personality is, then its their loss.
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Okay, growing up in the same community for years and having a life long friendship isn't what it's cracked up to be. I had a friendship with two ladies from middle school that turned out disastrous. Sometimes I wish I could have moved around and reinvented myself growing up.
I guess we always want what we don’t have. But I get what you’re saying. I’ve lived in the same city since I turned 40. It gets a bit ‘small’ after a while
While I wouldn't have called her a best friend, I was pretty good friends with an older lady from our church who was about my mother's age. I apparently offended her in some way so badly so that she refused to speak to me about it and decided to ignore me. Very weird thing for me to navigate as something like that has never happened to me before. I reached out a couple of times because if I had actually done something egregious I wanted to apologize but she refused to talk about it. She seldom speaks to me at church to the point of awkwardness but I have done all I can do. Ball is in her court although at this point I am not sure I would pass it back to her. If anyone is going to act like a grade Schooler over something that IDon't even know about, they are probably not worth being friends with. 😢
I have been hurt by church ladies, of which I am one. I don't want to tell them how I was hurt. I had rather forgive and move on because if you hurt me and you don't see it, I doubt you will see it once I point it out. I've tried that too. Most people can reason away or make light of my pain. 😢
@@terrybrown3036❤
@@terrybrown3036 This happened to me recently too. I would bet you are probably on a long list of women that she has treated the same way, and she will behave this way towards others in the future. It is hurtful for sure but helps to know that you probably didn't do anything at all, that she is the one with the issues. I agree, you get to the point where you don't even want their friendship. It's their loss, that they don't see the value in your friendship.
Thank you for your video which summarizes so well that women often don't support one another. Having lost a dear one in recent times, I'm astounded how harsh and judgmental some females can be just when you need them the most.
Agree💯glad we are talking about it
Each one of us is on our own personal journey of life…on that journey of ours, people come in and out of your life along the way. Because they are on their own path! Love your channel!
Thank you so much!! Happy to have you in our community❤️and yes we are all on our own path
Never had a female best friend. The only best friend I have that never fails me is a man, and he happened to be my only husband.
Love this❤️
Thank you
I think people should live spherically. Various interests, married and single friends, family, neighbors, etc., etc., of both sexes as well as a focus on oneself, keep us from focusing on one friend and that one relationship. That is giving too much power to that one person whether they family or friend, and/or raise our expectations from them. It all leads to disappointments or control.
Love your positive thinking
So happy for your great words of wisdom on an important topic. ! I am early 70's & last 2 women friends of more than 3 years have not worked out. Political differences have ended both. Too sad - so I'm moving on - Got 2 new kittens about 7 months ago & trying to forget these women. Your videos are so inspirational - thanks a bunch!
Thank you! So glad you found the channel❤
Politics lost me a friendship to recently but ya know what looking back I see other issues in the “friendship” that were not supportive
So true that there is often more to it!
Laura, so grateful for these videos. Thank you.
Thank you Arlene! Appreciate your support❤️
Oh definitely! I’ve had two friends dump me when I tried to help them out of abusive relationships with me. Women excuse inexcusable behavior from men. I blame our societal upbringing.
Agree💯
This channel is great!! Thank you for making it okay to not have the female friendship dream situation that everyone else seems to have!
Thanks so much and thanks for watching!
I grieved the end of my friendship with this woman. I couldn't believe what the friendship had turned into. Not much more to say... I like your perspective on this. Something to think about.
Thanks! The end of any relationship is hard
Never discourage people from therapy. It’s beneficial to anyone who desires to grow and mature.
I clearly say twice that it’s valuable if you feel you need it but I don’t think women should be guilted into it as if something is wrong with us if we don’t have a therapist
Very few therapists will tell you to work on yourself. They mostly listen to people vent. They don’t want to lose a client.
Thank you for this video. I might not be in your target group for your videos bc I am 38 but you share a lot of wisdom. There is a lot of pressure on women these days that bring a lot of suffering. It’s helps to know I am not alone.
I’m so glad you found the channel, maybe a lot of good insight from the old gals😍
Women are harder on women ….so true!
Love your videos ❤ Many greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Welcome!!! Glad you found me
I enjoy your videos, Laura. They are thought provoking and insightful. I’m happy I found your channel! ❤❤
Thanks! I’m glad you found it too
I just wanna say that I love your channel. I am over 50 but I’m still learning a lot from you. Thank you for this great content about women’s relationships.
You are so welcome! Glad you found the channel
I moved a lot, and the girls in my small high school class (92’), are all still friends. I haven’t spoken to any of them or cared what they did since high school. I never revisit old friendships that fall away and we don’t have to have a “best friend”… a variety of acquaintances and friends is just fine. Some people don’t want friends, either.
Agree💯It’s all personal choice
Many friends gossip about you if you’re in the same social circle. It gets back to the gossipy and is very destructive. Why can’t women be loyal? I think there’s jealousy and mental illness that create this.
Agree💯
Current status of female childhood "besties" 30 years later : 1. rarely talk ever. We have different lives now.. 2. Have not talked in 15 years. 3. Haven't talked in 10 years after she ghosted me for an event and never called me again. 4. A close bestie and later an ex that I ache with kindred spirit longing for but for now the door is closed (has been for 20 years). I wish we would have just been friends.
You are saying so much that I feel too. Why is ‘the bestie’ thing ends can’t we just stay friendly acquaintances. Why does it have to be all or none way too often
I do want to say that I am quite a bit younger than your intended audience but I am greatly enjoying your videos. ❤
Im so glad! Thanks so much I’m glad you found the channel.
Ditto… these are the conversations I wish I heard my mom and aunts talk about… but they’re too scared to talk about? I guess we’re just inheriting these issues bc we’re not talking about it..
There’s a lot to be said about the old adage; For a season, a reason or a lifetime. Seasons are okay for both parties, no need to over egg the pudding.
Thank you for your channel, Laura, and talking about friendships among women. I feel I am not alone! In the past, I shared with a friend my hurt over another friend ghosting me. Subsequently, later the person I shared with ghosted me. Now I have decided to not share so much. Those feelings arise, of what did I do wrong, did I say something that offended them? Did my sharing expose me to their judgement of who I am as a person? Feeling shamed for being vulnerable. Even when asked, you likely will not get an honest answer. I focus more on my family now. Why don't they like me? Let it go, because many times the answer is already there; we have to accept it. As you mention, I would have wanted to meet a little girl in elementary school, that would have been my life-long friend. If ever anyone finds that, what a wonderful blessing!
We are all going through the same thing! Glad so many women are sharing. And thank you for sharing your story
It’s so impressive that your TH-cam channel is only four months old and you have just shy of 8 k subs wow that’s amazing ! Learning you’ve been in office that’s also an amazing tidbit we’re learning ! I went to a therapist once as directed by my oldest sister , to learn I don’t have problems but my sister who sent me does ! Trauma Dump I’m just loving that phrase and your message today ! Thankyou Laura ❤️
Thanks Helen. I appreciate women like you who discovered me in the beginning and continue to watch and comment. Keeps me working hard!
Wish I could see a little more of your kitchen...it looks so pretty.
Thanks! Sometimes when I film you can se more of it. I need to start moving around a bit. I’m still learning 🤣
Yes! Looks goooorgeous!❤
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It’s a taboo subject. A therapist will be happy to hear you rant a rave about a failed romantic relationship, but they’ll dismiss a failed long term friendship. They don’t get it’s as meaningful as a marriage for some women. We expect our bestie to have our back no matter what happens in life. If we go through a divorce, they’re there for us.
We just don’t need to be shamed and told that the only person we can trust is a therapist. That’s a sad outlook Thanks for sharing your thoughts
No, it’s not obsession, it’s major grief and disappointment.
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I just found out I have a family reunion to go to. It's my husband's family. I have no idea what to say to anybody. This would be a good topic for a video. What to say to people you haven't seen or talked to in years. Three years to be exact. The funeral of my mother in law was the last we saw each other. Awkward...
Thanks for the idea. Definitely want a list of conversational topics. I’d definitely check some of their social media. See if they’ve been up to anything interesting. I always ask about travel or something about where they live I talked to someone one time about the changing seasons🤷🏻♀️she lived in a state with distinct seasons I live in a State of extremes(Texas).
Hi Laura, thanks for sharing I appreciate your advice. Can you speak about ending friendships on social media like unfriending on social media and setting boundaries thanks
Great idea thanks!
There is a lot to be said for a friend can be for a reason a season or a lifetime time. No need to make more of it and over egg the pudding.
I think it's because as women, we expect more from other women than we do for ourselves ? just a thought
I agree
@@laurahillauthor I just realized that should have said as women we expect more from other women than we do from men lol
TY, Laura..a very relevant topic. Ive had friends who I considered "BFF's" who have just walked right out of my life, for no apparent reason. It's crushing, at times, because I'm a VERY loyal person by nature. I don't really understand it, especially when no angry words were exchanged, and, no closure. Still trying to figure it out. TFS . Rosemarie 🩷
Thanks for taking the time
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