Dealing with Challenging Behaviors
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- Former classroom teacher Shannon Penrod talks about how to deal with challenging behaviors in a classroom so teachers can get back to doing their jobs! Discussion includes what the usual suspects of different behaviors are and how to deal with them.
My son just started Kindergarten with an IEP for speech delay and autism. When he started his behavior, participation, listening, and ability to work hard were good in the mornings, bad in afternoon, based on daily reports. However, within the last 2 or 3 weeks, his behavior is bad all day. His aggression has increased drastically. I scheduled an IEP meeting when I noticed the uptick in poor behavior and had to wait 2 weeks to have the meeting. Before scheduling the meeting, all I was getting back was all sad faces on his daily report and a description of the aggression against teachers and students my son performed. It seemed as it they were simply recording his bad behavior, I assume, simply to soon have justification to remove him from the school. Before the IEP meeting, I messaged his teacher, desperate to turn things around and all she wanted to know is what triggers my son. My question is, why did I have to ask for a functional behavioral analysis? I didn't even know about requesting an FBA until I stumbled across the term while doing personal research to figure out how to help my son. Why didn't the teachers or principal suggest or inform me of the need for an FBA? Why didn't they point me in that direction if they are actually interested in trying to help my son? Now, that I have mentioned it, I completed the paperwork to have it done.
What helped him? Im struggling
Thankyou so much for your video. Watching from Australia in March 2019. Very true and informative lesson, from a mother of two kids with Aspergers.
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She is soo funny and made this whole lesson so fun and informative. Thank you!
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Contrariwise. She is so destructive and entirely misguided.
This was a awesome and very informative video. Thank you
Thanks Deshana!
I have worked with autistic children for 10 years ,but there’s still a lot of misinformation. and I know how difficult it is for families and school staff to understand this group of children.
Either for not having the resources or necessary tools to understand them .This video gives us tools to deal with challenging behaviors.Than you
Yes if you understand the functions of behaviour you are well on your way to solving the problem
Excellent content!
Love this!!
I just try to do my best. Both teacher and assistance take turns so we don't get to over whelmed.
I can imagine. It’s good to have a plan and everyone do the same thing
Thank you this is vital information for families
Thank you!
@@AutismLive you are most welcome seems like we are on the same path it’s good to know that there are others that agree with you. Keep on doing your good work
@@parentingbeyondbehaviours6382 Likewise!
Hi Shannon, love this is it possible to access the PowerPoint please
This was Awesome
I'm still confused what to do about bad behaviour. Using your example, if a kid is seeking attention and throws his books on the ground and starts screaming and kicking on the floor, if we don't give them negative attention by scolding them, what are you supposed to do instead? My usual way to get them to behave better is to make them pick up the books. Am I supposed to say absolutely nothing and just not scold the kid? Am I supposed to leave the books on the floor? I know intellectually that it is bad to give them attention for bad behaviour. But if we don't scold them, how will they stop and pick up their books? Especially if you don't scold the child and say that it is bad, other kids may want to be copycats and do the same behaviour. Please advise.
Hi! @martinelee That is when you would step in and teach the child functional communication. Once you target that behavior as being attention-seeking, I would say yes instruct the child to pick the book up, then tell the child "you can raise your hand and wait for me to come over". In a classroom setting, this will be difficult for sure and may take time to develop the skill. But, if the teacher is consistent to attend to or call on the child immediately after the child raises his or her hand (or soon after) then that problem behavior should decrease because the child has a replacement behavior instead of the problem behavior. Also going forward you want to fade out and ignore the problem behavior (this is called extinction) to show the child that it will no longer produce the reinforcement they were looking for in the first place which is attention. Scolding may be reinforcing to the child inadvertently. Just because it is something you personally would not like, the child may enjoy having the teacher come over and scold him or her. I hope this helps!
I am sorry I didn't see your question sooner - but first are you sure the child is doing it for attention? If you are sure I would do three things to start. I would teach the child a way to ask for attention and when he does ask appropriately (whatever that means in your family/culture) you stop everything and give him the attention. Second, I would get in the habit of giving him regular attention. If you get to the point where you need attention so badly you are willing to throw books, you are really needing alot of attention. Give it to him on a schedule so he doesn't get that low. Third, if the books are the thing....remove them or make it impossible to throw them. My son would pull all of his books off the shelf....because he saw that upset me and it defiantely got my attention. So first I put up some elastic bands, so we could still take books down but he couldn't easily throw them. That lasted 2 days and he figured out a work around...so eventually we moved the books to another room, behind a door he couldn't open...until we could give him enough skills to ask for attention. It wasn't forever. So I would start there....If all else fails and he still pulls the books or something else down then what you do is say nothing....no scolding...but you calmly walk over and put your hand over theirs and make them put the books back. no words. no discussion. They won't like this. You have to be careful that no one is hurt - it is all gentle but persistent. Often what I do is hold their hand with one hand and hold the book against their hand with the other hand and I motor the book back on the shelf. No words - unless I say. Yes, Book on Shelf good. This procedure is not fun, but it doesn't berate them, it doesn't give them a reward for the behavior or let them get away with it.
When the child is behaving inappropriately to get attention you should disconnect meaning no eye contact and no conversation except for the instruction. Use minimum words and keep your instructions consistent. Usually there is a combination of functions working at the same time. This is not a quick and easy answer
We need to remember that we are our kids role models if we become frustrated and “scold” the child he then thinks it’s normal but if we are able to let him know that , that attention is not exceptable and it does not bother you he will see that oh this is not the way to get my moms attention
I am a mother of two autistic adult children (27,24) and the eldest is born a girl but wants to be a man( since childhood). He is severely autistic with a high IQ but very very slow in everything he does, and can talk very wise but is actually an emotional disabled adult who has tantrums every single day. He doesn’t accept his diagnoses anymore and doesn’t want to take his medication anymore. We are devestated and in dispair, he doesn’t work( only in our big garden when he wants and doesn’t care what we want, he does whatever he wants) and makes a mess of our house, demolishes things and we actually can’t handle him anymore. He can’t live on his own, he needs guidance and care, but because he is an adult, we can’t do anything. He has to give his permission and of course he doesn’t give that. He is extremely angry if we want to talk about getting out of the house and live in a guidance home ( I don’t know the word in English, I am Dutch) for people with autism. We don’t know what to do anymore, our government and laws say that right of self determination is the highest priority. But our adult child is a psychiatric patient and doesn’t know how severe his behavior is, 😢
First, I am sending you a big hug. Even with all that is going on I hear in your email the love and respect you have for your adult child. Choices are really important for all of us. If we feel like we don't have any choices we feel despair and lose hope. First I want you to know that you do have choices and it is important to recognize what they are. You may not like any of your choices but lets look at what they are. Secondly I think we have to look at what his choices are. What does he want? This is important. He may not know what he wants or he may be clear on what it is he wants. If he doesn't know let's give him clear choices. If you are going to live here you have to work or you have to live somewhere else (as an example) Do you want to work from home or work somewhere else. This may cause tantrums. Even in our 20s tantrums are communication, what is he trying to communicate? I don't like change, I feel anxious? Can we find other ways for him to communicate his needs ? will he text? I would be very interested to know what he says about what he is uncomfortable with. I don't imagine it is an easy thing to be a man living in a woman's body. The main thing is he is clearly unhappy. As are you. Can we find out what might make him happy?
@@AutismLive thank you so much for your answer, we tried to communicate with him and ask him what he want, but indeed, that causes anxiety and tantrums and a lot of unrealistic answers ( like: I want to be a man with a real penis, I want to work like everybody in a normal company, with no help and I want to be treated normal and not be autistic and I want to live in a home with no guidance etc.
If we treat him normal he gets tantrums, and we treat him as normal as possible but we have to be very strait forward and clear because he misunderstands so much and he mis interpretate everything we say.
He is frustrated about his life and not being a male, and that nothing goes as he wants and he has to make his world around him so it doesn’t bother him anymore. But we can’t take away noises from outside( fireworks for example from children in the neighborhood etc).
Well nothing goes easy with him.
@@aruvielevenstar3944 Have you seen the movie Brian and Charles? It's a very odd little movie but ironically it touches on some of the things you are describing, living with a person who is unhappy and doesn't have the life experience or understanding to negotiate life on their own. I don't know if your government has this but is assisted living a choice. where they can go and live somewhere that gives them a certain level of autonomy but where they have support when needed. Long term your adult child needs to be able to move out of your house. For their sake, for your sake. It doesn't mean you stop parenting or caring or worrying for that matter...but it is a normal desire to want the things your child wants. It may not all be possible, but some of it probably is possible, with support. Is there anything like assisted living in your countries self-determination initiative?
@@AutismLive yes there is, but the autistic person has to give his or her permission if they are adults ( 18 years of age). And as our adult autistic child doesn’t acknowledge his diagnose, we litterly can’t do anything. That’s why we are devastated. I haven’t seen the movie Brian and Charles but I would love to see it. Thank you for your support 🙏🏻❤️
My kid hirs others when he’s trying to discipline them.
Can some where reference sources to the specialist she mentioned
BCBA - board certified behavior analyst www.bacb.com search for one near you.
Boy I wish the majority of teachers I had, had the skills you talk about. I was born in the 80s n every one of the teachers I've had had no patience and didn't do sqaut as far as trying to help me. I was not diagnosed with autism as far as I know. My mother if she had, did not tell me. Every day, it was a challenge for me. I had teachers in high-school tell me I was never gonna amount to anything. I would be a no body. Now I make way more then them and the one teacher who said I will never amount to anything, one year after I graduated he went to prison for cocaine. Infact him, the middle school math teacher and a few others got busted at a teachers Xmas party for having cocaine. The local judge was the guy supplying them. He got busted as well. It's been 15 years now and I see the judge and the math teachers face on a billboard in town, he is running for judge again. I always knew there was something up with her. I remeber having her in math. She would get up and go to the bathroom every ten 15 min. Come back yacking away. She Still teaches at valley view high-school in the Lackawanna area
But if the student is physically harming another student and his function is attention how do I just ignore it?
You can stop a behavior without giving it attention. It is called blocking. Blocking means you literally block the individual from what they are seeking to hit - you just don't talk about what you are doing, that would be giving it attention. It's hard. But have you ever seen a parent that has so many things going on - they are on the phone, doing dishes, stirring food on the stove, all at the same time - and then a child comes in and goes to take the pan by the handle and the mom doesn't miss a beat, she moves the pan to the middle of the stove and redirects the child back into the other room, but never says anything to the child - that is blocking and redirecting. It is very effective but tough to learn.
Thank you appreciate it.
Yes this strategy works
Can I obtain the PowerPoint ?
I would love a copy