Chop-Off: Zombie Tools Reaver Cleaver vs. Condor Dynasty Dadao
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ธ.ค. 2016
- Which of the two does better in the wood chopping tests? Both are massive choppers, and comparable in shape, size, and weight.
The ZT Reaver Cleaver:
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The Condor Tool & Knife Dadao sword:
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Specs:
Reaver Cleaver
Overall length: 79 cm (31'')
Blade length: 46 cm (18'')
Thickness: 5 mm (1/5'')
Weight: 1.7 kg (3 lbs 12 oz)
Dadao
Overall length: 81 cm (32'')
Blade length:50.5 cm (20'')
Thickness: 5 mm (1/5'')
Weight: 1.45 kg (3.2 lbs)
Music:
"Tension" by Arthur Khairullin
"Chaotic Metal" by Unknown
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This will be very useful for the tree uprising of 2020.
They've just about had enough of our shit.
The Ents shall march to Skall's house and end him rightly by releasing the nearest river and flooding his estate, forever trapping him in his tower.
Matt K hahahahahahahahahaha
Holy shit this comment...
I'm ready boys. Good luck.
Why am I watching some guy chopping wood instead of writing my paper for university again?
H311fi5h sexual frustration?
Because school is just an expensive hobby for you?
Hehe
I actually found Shall's youtube channel because I was doing research for a college paper.
Jacob Clark
What's your paper on, Canadian blade addicts?
MoreAmerican Well, I recently did a presentation on the mechanics, dinamics and materials of swords... so it is not that outlandish to go to Skall for a fair bit of demonstration, in exchange for spreading his fanbase
"Mr. Miyagi can you chop trees like that?"
"Don't know, tree never attack"
I'm just surprised that there are still trees around Skal.
***** I'm pretty sure every country has laws about cutting down random trees.
In fact i was joking.
Yep. They sure are. Unless there's a good reason, don't cut a living tree here. On the other hand, rainforests have a lot of deadfall.
The Space Wizard While I know it isn't a full on rainforest, the dead material is very important for rainforest ecosystems as the soil does not contain a lot of nutrients. Leaving the dead matter will allow the nutrients to go back into the soil and feed the living plants.
-Will confirm, full on temperate rainforest, we get a minimum of a metre of per year.
-Also, cutting deadfalls and standing deadfalls is legal (in BC) as long as it's not in a riparian or otherwise protected zone.
-No cutting near waterways (15m from the bank I think).
-Fires are an issue in Canada but 67% of burnt land is cause by lightning strikes.
I bet someone will be walking through the woods and be like "huh, I wonder where all these notches in the wood are from."
So the Cleaver seems to be heaver toward the tip making it a better all around tool. As it was designed to be. While the Dadao seems to be better balance thus making a better weapon. As it was designed to be.
Interesting...
The Reaver Cleaver is indeed heavier but it actually feels like the same weight because its shorter blade and longer handle make it more balanced.
Dread, the Mad Smith reaver certainly has a physics friendly design. makes it well worth the price. but for budget minded buyers. the condor doesn't seem like too bad of a alternative purchase
***** Oh, neat. I would have wagered the cleaver being less balanced overall.
Can't really guess the weight of the handle.
the cleaver was made for chopping and has the edge of a chopper while the dadao is lighter at the tip and has an edge that is much shallower, better for cutting, slightly worse for chopping. id say as a tool the cleaver good as long as one is not using it to carve wood, but the dadao seems to be a well designed weapon with the capabilities to do much more
both are good for their own. the sword is more of a weapon, the cleaver is more of a tool.
Condor wins simply on price, its $90 to the reaver cleavers $400.
Leliana Livesley the Reaver Cleaver can also withstand getting shot (low caliber), cutting other blades, and crushing stone.
Both blades may be great but the Reaver Cleaver is built to last several life times of abuse. It's price reflects that.
Leliana Livesley they're very close in effectiveness even though the cleaver is a bit better but the price difference is just absurdly enough to neglect that difference in quality
Skaianet It may be better and all that, but you could get 4 of the dadaos and have money to spare for the price of the reaver cleaver. Completely negating any of the benefits the cleaver has based on how close they are in effectiveness.
Don't shoot it with 7.62x39 though.
If you consider them as moreso weapons than tools, then the Reaver Cleaver has a greater balance. Is that worth 300+$? Not for me to say.
Obviously, the axe wins.
Mikazuchi so true
Well it was kinda made specifically for chopping
Correct
The cleaver appears to be a better chopper from what I can see, but the dadao was a weapon of war for fighting humans, not ents. Maybe it handles better with less weight or has a finer edge less suited for wood and more suited for chopping limbs.
I am just going to copy my comment here that I wrote a few minutes before:
"... if anyone is interested in why the Reaver Cleaver performs better at chopping than the Condor, can be directly attributed to thickness, indirectly to the small amount of resonance in the blade when coming into contact with the wood, as opposed to the dadao, which is relatively thin, and is even made of higher carbon steel, so it is more likely to flex. That is why the Dadao is more suitable for battle; the cleaver could potentially absorb all shock from an incoming sideways blow, as we've seen in in the shooting video, whereas the dadao is more likely to bend away (that is not to say that the cleaver would stand up against a gun; my guess is, the cleaver had a stronger quenching, because the creators knew that the thick material can retain a softer, resilient core after quenching; that is why the weapon broke from a gunshot, the outer, incerdibly hard surface cracked, compromising the blade.
Well, at least that is my idea."
As for actual combat, both weapons are impractical. Short reach, and large mass. But indeed the dadao would be a better choice.
+mage7 That is because the rifle round with the larger energy cpuld actually transfer enough energy to crack the hard outer layers of the cleaver. Also, the relatively thick blade created different twisting stress on the planes of the blade's cross section; having twisting stress in a material is always worse than polling or bending, as it is completely ununiform, and it increase exponentially with the diameter (if I remember correctly). This is why you can't bend a very thick material without it deforming.
***** It doesn't have the solid mass of the Reaver, the lighter blade is more prone to deflection.
I love how heavy metal music started playing whenever you started chopping.
Krakolio Very fitting somehow.
Suddenly gets a mental image of Skall singing Monty Pythons "Lumberjack Song"... gods i need a drink. lol :-)
I definitely think it's the opposite. Are you driving home tonight?
🎶🎶🎶 He puts on women's clothing, and hangs around in bars.
Ohhhh he's a lumberjack and he's OK, he sleeps all night and he works all day! 🎶🎶🎶
The fact that the Condor Dadao can even so much as glance at the Reaver Cleaver is completely insane. Seriously, you could buy three or four of the Dadao for one reaver cleaver and get almost as much value.
Damn, Condor
Your accuracy at hitting the mark seems to be higher then average. Looks like all that practice pays off.
exactly what I was thinking... My aim is way worse...
Gabriele Magnabosco Going to commute to B.C. for practice too? :p Bit of a drive for me. :)
Dang, your endurance seems remarkable compared to your older videos. You are really getting into fighting condition. Bravo!
Really nice video man. I really enjoyed how you used the different tracks for each blade. Very nice thinking, it adds a lot to the video. Keep up the good work Skall.
Skal! Quickly put a patent on the crotch-cam idea, it's going to be the next selfie-stick.
Marcedus i dub it dick stick....
Never heard of nutscaping? You just have to turn the camera 180°
A chop test a la Tactical (or at least that's how I interpreted it), very nice! The inclusion of the axe comparison is something I don't see a lot of in these 'chop off' videos, and I think added a lot to the test. Excellent video, Skall.
Yep, in fact seeing the Reaver Cleaver on Tac's channel gave me the idea.
Man I love chopping things! So naturally this video was very satisfying to watch.
what a cool format! keep on making these
Love these kinds of videos. Keep 'em coming!!
[Initiate crotch vision]
MetalChimp ACTIVATE *beep*
I just wonder on what was the camera mounted?
dick move bro... dick... move...
Poor axe didn't get the song(
skallagrim cutting wood on heavy metal.
Now I remember why I subbed this channel.
3:09 - "How is it for a fancy camera angle? You're standing right in front of my crotch... you're welcome TH-cam"
Best of Skallagrim 2016
Your video makes it clear why I use a (original) Hudson Bay Ax.
Useful for many applications!
THIS IS THE MATCH I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!
Love the things you do! Thank you and keep up the good work!!!
My first assumption of the video title was both choppers are gonna chop at each other till one of them breaks.
Like that one time when you chop an inferior knife with another blade which I can't remember (using the search button, typed in "break, knife")... oh there it is! That video of yours is the "Testing the Zombie Tools Diphos (even smashing a knife!) "
Love those videos cause you put your torture test to the maximum limit like the epic "AK vs Reaver Cleaver" video
... rest in pieces Reaver Cleaver.
That Reaver Cleaver is an absolute beast. The handle looks pretty comfortable for those hard hits too.
wow, skal, you improved your wood chopping a lot! proud of you. you even go once left, once righth every time, perfect :)
The change in music when switching weapons was a very nice touch.
Hey I've been following your channel for over a year now... or maybe it's been two. Anyway just wanted to comment on the noticeable quality improvement. Your style has always been very interesting and engaging but your finished project has become even more refined and polished now. I hope you continue to enjoy content creation and keep making cool videos.
I have to say, based on use, I would choose the reaver cleaver.
I would also choose the Reaver Cleaver
scarmenl however the dadao has guards
And I would choose a fucking chainsaw
+The Casual Longsword that is a good point
+Kamil Szadkowski what happens if you run out of gas???????
looks like an attack speed buff when the chops are edited together
Skal this was very interesting to watch. More comparison videos please!
I've got to keep on saying this: i love your intro so much!!!!!!!
This video did not appear in my sub feed, but the comparison did... Thank you youtube for not notifying me when a video is up, even with the bell...
I like how each sword has its own theme.
i love how they both have their own theme music
From what I read online, the Dadao was a weapon developed during the Sino-Japanese war (WWII period) by a Chinese martial arts expert for soldiers with very little kungfu or sword fighting skills. These troops are trained within a short period of time to face the Japanese bayonets and katanas on the field.
This was really nice to see. Skall, please do similar comparisons between other blades.
Much respect Skallagrim, your video may not be the most scientific in the world, it was HIGHLY entertaining and really nice job on editing and music overlay. Looking forward to your conclusion vid.
really good Idea to have audio queues for the different blades. They do look very similar.
Oh I really do love this guy's banter
Skall I enjoy chopping wood to help me relax after a long day but sometimes I get tired just watching you endlessly swing with large swords/cleavers/dadao. Good on you man.
Also (and I don't know if you did) switch up which weapon you use first. No matter the rest in between the first weapon will have the benefit of being "rested". Only my humble opinion.
This is not a fair test. When you cut the branches at different positions the amount of resistance changes. When you used the Reaver Cleaver at 4:30 and 5:35 you encountered less resistance which caused the branch to be pushed downward and "bounce" which resulted in shallower cuts.
That was not the only test. There is a reason why I chopped different pieces at different angles while alternating which blade goes first. I can't eliminate certain variables, which is why I mix it up.
I like how the music changes when he switches between the dadao and the cleaver.
Looks awesome!
I loved how you put the same music tracks for the right weapon everytime. I felt like the axe needed a mario or link's theme lol
Those are wicked cutters 👊
"You're standing right in front of my crotch. You're welcome, youtube"
*Heavy metal music*
Once again Skall saves the world by eliminating the timber hordes before they have a chance to rise up against us. If it weren't for Skall, half of Canada would be overrun with undead Zombie Trees by tomorrow. You are a true hero! On a less comedic note, I love how you switched the music everytime you switched blades. Other then just being a nice little touch, it helped me keep track of which blade was being used, especially if I were to possibly get distracted writing comments halfway through a video...
Wow, Nice video!
I was going to ask, what music is playing in the background, then I remembered you rambling off in some video, about the people asking stuff you put into the description of the video haha. So i checked and here I am thankfull for your effort, and me not having to ask haha. still writing something now damn it!. Thanks Skall !
Well...The Cleaver still can't withstand riffle ammuntion.
Zombies don't use rifles...
The test that some people do on blades like stone, steel and shooting it is really stupid. Its pointless and we all know there is no blade out there that is bullet proof nor it can slice through stone.
@@johnathanscott3407 those are extreme durability tests to see just how tough the thing is. When you drop upwards of $500 on a sword or tool, you want it to last.
It's 1.59 AM, I have two seminars tomorrow (today?), I'm watching a guy chop wood (with a nice point of view from the crotch no less).
I guess I'm enjoying my life.
Great video.
nice vid mate
Great video! I think that they are equally powerful. It would be great to see Reaver Cleaver vs Dadao vs All Terrain Chopper (cold steel), which is very similar to the Dadao. I'll be getting my ATC in January, can't wait!
Someday, someone is gonna walk through that place and wonder, who the hell chopped off so many trees and why some were unfinished
Oh Canada.
Appreciated the axe comparison. Would sure bring one to the zombie apocalypse anyway. ;-)
Staving children in Africa could have eaten those trees and moss.
Always think of the children.
So.. Do you or don't you abide?
Bryan Schmidt The _Dude_ abides.
And the swords. Don't forget the swords, they are high in iron.
youtube thanks you for the crotch cam angle. Both of those blades are so awesome and strong in design and efficiency. reaver cleaver has the more badass name though
Adam Sharp and biggest price... ;-; but still worth it
Good workout by the looks of things!
Nice choose of riffs. :)
Looks like great exercise.
How did your arms feel after all that? I just did my review of the Dadao this weekend and after chopping through maple and doing a frozen pork test my arms were pretty sore.
Great video! One complete song at a time please haha 😀
wow I liked that axe where do I bought one? there's no link in the description of the video
i love the music choices this time
i think what it comes down to it where the point of balance on each weapon is, and what the edge geometry is like
can you maybe do some stuff on seaxes/langseaxes? i'm kinda interested in looking for one and your two cents would be good :D
which one was more nimble on hand? and which one would you use one handed if you had too? or are they similar in terms handling.
Awesome video
Awesome music
hello Skallagrim, could you make a video about making a proper thomahawk handle?? because my axe head keeps coming loose after every strike...
Hey Skall, I get that the reaver cleaver with its thicker blade and slightly wider grind would excel much more than the Dadao in cutting all that wood. But, I wonder which would slice more cleanly through fleshy or softer gel materials as well as the ZGB Ivans. Thoughts?
loving the cheesy cold steel style music editing
Best metal music video ever!
Hey Skallagrim plz could you do s video explaining the five-step-process they use in the later Walking Dead novels to dispatch large groups of zombies?
curious question though, were the blades relatively equal in mass?
Does your Dadao have a taper? it doesn't look like it does which is weird because mine has one
Your facial expressions when cutting wood is something else
What is the name of this prog-industrial sounding song you layed under the cleaver-passages?
I wonder if you bring some of that cut wood home for firewood :o
Two questions: What steel is each sword made from, and what edge geometry does each have?
Why is this just now showing on my sub feed??? I'm still subbed to you. It got to me hours late.
Phoenix Starfyre Cause TH-cam is fucked right now.
when are you doing thw give away love the videos and fellow Canadian
My two cents here, Skall: the rubber grip on the reaver should make the cut less likely to glance compared to the wooden one since it makes for a better grip. I don't believe it is related to the blade shape, but maybe the weight makes a difference too (some of the later one-handed cuts with the reaver do look more tiresome). Great vid!
Did you sharpen both before the tests?
hmmmm am I the only one with 25 seconds of darkness at the very end?
Also what is the 12.963 second time stamp about at the end. I realise it is one of the time you needed to chop through the wood with one of the blades. Could it be a hint as to which Sword you prefer?
did you sharpen either before or are they both factory edge?
Traditionally, the Dadao comes with a red scarf tied to the ring handle. It is meant to wipe blood off the blade.
"hows that for a fancy camura angle ur standing right infront of my crotch" thanks skall i love it
That was a serious workout.
The reaver really looks nice!
Zegolath the price doesn't ;-;
true...
How is there any trees left in that forest?
The Reaver Cleaver seemed to cut deeper per swing but it seemed heavier which would contribute to that. It also seemed like more work to swing.
Dadao was harder on the hands though
AWESOME REVIEW! I noticed (as did you) quite a few glancing blows with the Dadao and was wondering if it was due to 1. Technique, 2. blade edge geometry or 3. Handle geometry?
Mostly the latter two.
***** They seemed pretty evenly matched with the exception of the glancing blows. I am looking forward to seeing which one you prefer!
Since it's the same person in all instances, I would assume the effect of technique to be minimal (unless one of them naturally allows for better technique, but that would still be connected to the blade).
MartialNico Right. I believe (and of course Skal can comment on this), that one of the blades is lighter, the Dadao, therefore quicker and easier to swing around and get back into the wood, which may have contributed to a different result, possibly a misalignment of the strike?
Hey skall! I think you messed up the weights of the swords in rhe description!
You should also compare the strength of the blades. For example by shooting at them with 7,62 X 49 rifle cartridge or something like that.
Emiel Regis Rohellec Terzieff-Godefroy and possibly throw in the garbage 490 dollars by breaking them, just like he did in the Reaver Cleaver Review wich he did a while ago, were he shoots the weapon with a sniper and a piece just flies off.
You missed the joke mate
Yeah, just noticed...
I understand the lols approach, but I seriously would hate the Reaver being shot, it's just to awesome.
+Josuel Servin Oh, a fresh one I see...