Designing an airbox - Suzuki Bandit Cafe Racer - ASBO Project
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2022
- Today I'm making a CAD airbox for the Suzuki Bandit Cafe Racer project which I later turn into aluminium
There's a lot more going on here than you might think...
SOMEBODY IS GOING TO WIN ASBO - That's right, somebody who supports the QuickBikes channel and the bikes I'm building is going to be the proud owner of a completely custom built Suzuki Bandit Cafe Racer once it's finished. I'm giving away ASBO to celebrate hitting the 10,000 subs mark to somebody who supports the channel.
To stand a chance of winning the bike once its finished, simply donate £10 to the channel using the PayPal link - www.paypal.com/paypalme/Quick...
Where it says "What's this payment for?", enter "Supporting the channel". That way I know what the payment is for and I can make sure your name goes in my hat.
You can donate as much as you like and each £10 donation to the channel will get you another chance to win the bike as you're supporting us that much more.
If the winner is not in the UK, I can crate it up etc, but the shipping will be their responsibility. If you're in the UK, we'll be able to arrange something.
Please, please, please like and share this video as it will be setting the budget to finish the bike and hopefully raise some additional funds so I can include some spanky bits in the build. The bigger the budget, the better the bike you might end up with.
THIS IS NOT A RAFFLE...
You won't get a ticket or a sticker in the post, but I'll publish a list of names regularly, so you know you you've been entered. Somebody who has chipped in will be randomly picked once the bike is finished and as a thank you for supporting us will be the proud new owner of ASBO.
The very BEST of luck to you if you chose to join in and help support the channel 😁👍
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Cracking video as always quicky, can't wait to see the finished bike 👍👍
Thanks for watching Greg 👍
Great video, you will have hours of fun tuning a 1200 bandit. Sure I have some footage of the bandit cup from back in 99/2000 They were are great feeder one make series.
I like it because it's a one make series... 😁
Hi Quicky, me again, also I have a Kawasaki GT750 cafe, I put oval pods on the carbs, spent 30 hours on interweb seeking jets sizes etc, but after very vague information i put filter foam inside each pod, i was only after the look as the 750 has enough grunt for fun, briggs & stratton 4 stroke lawn mower air filters, 1 in each, and they work brilliantly, cheers mate...
I'm tempted with a set of foam filters matey. From what I've read, they work quite well and Piper do a set of four that fit 🤔
You’re doing such a good job on this bike mate.
Thank you matey, that means a great deal 👍 I can see it all in my head, I just need to make it 🤣😂
Inlet chamber design is even more complicated than exhaust . Especially on a motor that works over a large range of rpm ( pulse frequency and actual air flow).
There's a ton of clever stuff goes into those plastic boxes as I'm now finding out 🥴
Nice airbox design. Good luck with it
Thank you matey, but plans might be a changing now 🤣😂😅
I'll explain in the next video when I do an update 😁👍
Got a soft spot for the Bandit 12, sold my Blackbird and bought one because it was happier pottering around behind 50's and 125's than the Blackbird was (riding instructor, not just bothering L platers!). It was such a laugh and always up for a bit of "making progress", and the tuning market for them is massive! A GSX1200R sounds proper naughty!
It does, doesn't it... 😁😁
A Bandit 1200 in Bandit style SRAD sized frame with decent suspension 👌
Back when I had my Race Car/Race mlm Bike shop ..I had a "SuperFlow" flow bench, to do Heads, intakes, and exhausts on Cars and Bikes..You are absolutely right about the pressure waves!. and there is an exact formula for figuring out how tall or short you .make your Velocity Stacks..top end power or low end power also figures in!..Removal of the Air Box, will definitely change the dyno specs!..So will changing the exhaust! ...That changes all the numbers...Getting advice from a Race Shop that Flow Benchs their bikes is your best bet..Everything else is literally guess work...(with more experienced folks having a better chance at hitting the high numbers)..Keep up the good work and I'm sure you will get it..👍🗽🇺🇸
There's a lot of guesswork going on here, but with an engineering degree or access to test kit, the only thing I can do is not stray toooo far from stock. Its going to be a compromise though however close I get...
Air box going to look sweet. S rad come on ❤🔧
It should look alright I reckon matey 😁
I haven't even touched the SRAD, but I definitely have plans for it. Now that bike is gonna be a lot of fun 😁👍
Fascinating. I concur with the idea of pull out the rear half, then can slide out the front half - needs some rubber edging on the joint I'm thinking. 👍😊
I won't getnit out otherwise matey. Should be alright though I reckon 🤔😁
Great video 👍 Quikie think of a air as a water jet squzee the tip =narrow low volume of air jet ,full open=slow high volume.
think you should keep the carboard airbox for all them tree huggers out there ...good watch as always
Knowing how much of the forests we've lost this year - with all those poor animals with it, and how much we need all those trees to clean the air we've filled with greenhouse gases, I think Your comment is just stupid. Some day, we all will end up as tree huggers, because we don't listen to them. now.
On my old 7/11 I used to run two large foam oval filters, they worked well and better than individual pods...
Loving the build 👍👍
I'm still looking into twin pods but from what I'm seeing, that's gonna be an issue on this engine matey
Get a jet kit from holeshot. I’m running his stage 2 kit with individual pods and a full titanium exhaust from black widow on my 600. Zero issues right out of the box. Dale is also super responsive and can help out with any issues
That could save me some work...
Funny you should say that... 🤣
A fun project would be to put the 1100 in a 600 frame!!! 👍🗽🇺🇸
Kinda what I'm thinkingaybe for later on matey 👍
on the ZZR try and old school Gunson Colortune as the nocking might be the idle mixture not even across the board - rod knock would not normally sort it's self out on higher rev's - how ever I would defo sort out the van :) I cant wait to see what you settle on with the air box on the 600 as I am doing the exact same bike at the moment and wanted to do away with the air box mainly due to the faff to remove it. better to let someone else figure it out 1st :)
When the oil pressure test guage turns up, that should tell me for sure but that van needs sorting out anyways 😁👍
Another great video. Are you going to cover changing the jetting for the new airbox as a vid in the future?
Yes matey, everything will get covered including the dyno runs, changes made and following dyno run 😁👍
Looking good matey nice spacing on top and all round .. where was you gonna put the inlet hole .. shame about the zed but guess you gonna no sooner than later if its that rod knock or not .. hope you enjoyed ya roasties
The inlet is going on the back face, you'll see whenni come to make it dude. The ZZR is what it is but I can pull it apart at my leisure once the van is back on the road again...
Can't beet cad design (cardboard aided design ) keep the videos coming
It just works matey... 😁👍
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Loving the build. Got a no b
Bike question! What weight bench is that? Is it any good? Looking for a reasonably priced one. Cheers
Thanks for watching matey, it's much appreciated 😁👍
The bench is really good and takes 1000kg . The o ly things I'm not keen on is the chock that bolts on to hold the front wheel is too high and hits brake discs, and I keep walking into the lever to pump the bench up, which tends to sting a bit. But I'd have another one for sure 😁👍
@@QuickBikes lol thanks but I meant weight bench 🏋💪💪🤣🤣
🤣😅😂 Sorry dude. I don't.know.what it's rated to... but it's had an engine on it 🤣😂
looks like a BARN it's grim. good luck, 750 carbs used to be a common upgrade, shame the shitbox micra crowd made the throttle bodies for the 600 and thousands gxr more expensive.
find a floe bench and the drafting programs. my suggestionbwould be some tubing/ducting in the area you arent bulding into like ram air style coming fron under the seat/in the tail to compensate for the lack of volume
given that you have to rejet for the new exhaust anyway the hi flow filter is going to be massively helpful power wise. 8-15hp in theory from a hi flow filter and exhaust change.
airbox internals are always a compromise between WOT power and mid range response and s bike that does wot power is easy something thatbdoesnt sacrifice massively is far harder. its why the variable runner length tech is so cool and heavily researched.
could you tack or Shape metal inserts to.round the corner maybe? alter the shape of the box inside after construction before welding the lid on?
I'm hoping it turns out OK... ultimately we won't know till we run it but I'm hoping buts not horrible. If I don't like it, it's going straight in the bin anyways 🤣
@@QuickBikes ahaha always an option
its coming on mate, curious to see how it turns out? hope the zzr isnt a big job - fingers crossed its something simple? cheers.
Thank you matey. I'm hoping the tube gets here this week so i can finish up the exhaust before starting on the airbox... I don't really want two big jobs on the go at the same time 🤔
@@QuickBikes im sure you'll cope mate! cheers.
Dirty Garage Guy (when he is not ripping the water out of DelBoy) has a proper engineering brain. It would be nice to see him collaborate instead of piss take.
Did I just rhyme there?
He basically is on the ZZR issues matey 😁
He can talk the talk, as he is ex forces, but is clueless when it comes to engineering, and as he hasnt finished a a single one of his projects, isnt really in a position to take the piss out of anyone!
I'd have to disagree with you there, but that's just me matey 👍
@@QuickBikes As Matt has never finished a single one of his many projects, and seems to struggle with using simple hand tools, he is nothing more than a bullshit merchant!
Do you agree with Matt attacking a young girl, trying to work on her own bike for the first time? Lots of people dont appreciate that sort of thing much, and he might well get a slap at some stage.
Just a thought on the issue you have up to 3100 rpm, this is also around the time the carbs switch to main jets ,, could it be an air leak or sound ... Just a thought ..👍
It sounds very knocky mate, so dont think it's a leak... I've checked all the obvious stuff, so thr only thing left to do is pull it all apart now...
Throttle position determines which jet, pilot, needle or main jet, not rpm.
Doing a bandit custom myself and saw a stage 2 kit from holeshot performance in America which does away with the airbox and runs pods instead. Thoughts?
The only difference apparently with a stage 3 is the size of the main jet. I'd have a go at running it on a dyno and see what the AFR does. If you need to up the jetting its always an option... 👍
I'm not sure you'd get it spot on by ear which is why I'm going to a dyno to see if it works right. Best of luck dude 👍
@@QuickBikes thanks man i'll let you know how i get on
Hi Quicky, why why why would you need to put a daily ride on a dyno, my 95' 1100 started for the first time in 5 years after a lot of tlc, first ride was 2 days ago and pulls 70kph in first gear, still got 5 more gears, but that was for a brief second, why hold a bike at revs it will never do on the road on a dyno, i understand racebikes are designed for constant high reving, but a daily... guess there is only 27 silver registered in the UK left now? love the channel, cheers mate
Running it up on a dyno is a great way of checking everything and getting stuff like the fueling right. I should have put more miles on it on the road before dynoing it, but given how rich it is and finding the worn seats in the carb, it was worth doing at some point. The race bikes we ran in the past mechanically were a stock engine with only a can, air filter and properly set up the dyno. Nothing more than that as the regs didn't allow it and there's no reason a stock engine shouldn't be capable of it. The bike will come apart again and I'll fix whatever went wrong as its a good little bike now 😁
Just an idea but what about the split being horizontal line? instead of vertical line? like a clam shell type idea....
That could work.... might be a bit hardener to make though... hmmm... 🤔
@@QuickBikes I was thinking it could open down into the space where the rear wheel is as opposed to removing the seat and tank??
Have you decided where you are putting the battery on ASBO?
In the seat hump I think matey.... or maybe under the tank... Still chewing it over at the minute
@@QuickBikes awesome. As long as it’s part of your plan whilst you make the air box, which will sit in the original battery location.😎
Well bugger me first 😃
Good man 😁 👍
Fill yer boots lad........The rest of us don’t wasn’t to be buggered.😊
If the noise disappears at 3200 rpm just use the rev range above that... 🧐🤣
Hehehe.... 🤣😂
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