I need your help - Suzuki Bandit Cafe Racer - ASBO Project
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- The side stand is now all fitted and working, but I need your help with the number plate mount. I can't decide where best to put it. I'll also give you a sneeky peek into the next project as well.
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Option E - use a Ducati Panigale-type extender out the back. That's in keeping and allows you to route the electrics for a number plate light and, if needed, something to hang indicators off.
Yeah, the indicators are going to be on the number plate mount as well. I may end up mocking up a couple of options here 😂🤣
Thank you matey 😁👍
I loved s with the upside-down turtle 🐢 😍
Hehehe....
I saw the title and immediately thought "Too late, he's well beyond help now"... 😁
Hehehe...the medication just doesn't work... Either that or I'm well advanced of.modern medical science 🤣😂
Option A looks to be the best in my humble opinion ☺
Thank you matey 😁👍
D for the ticket then A for the real world 👌
Thank you matey 😁👍
Option A on a sliding bracket under the seat pan so you can move in and out and a swivel mount on the end to adjust the angle of the plate as I believe the regs say "as vertical as possible" This way you can adjust to suit the test and then adjust to your liking after the test.
Thank you matey 😁👍
Option C is the way to go!
Thank you matey 👍😁
Option A looks best to me
Thank you matey 😁👍
Up under tail light out on a spigot and use led ‘bolts’ for light + a long, slim reflector stuck to the bottom of the plate - that’s my 2pworth.
Thank you matey 😁👍
Option A is the best
Thank you matey 😁👍
C most definitely 👍
Thank you matey 😁👍
I would go with option C honestly will be minimalystic and my opionion is it will suit bike most, and keep muck out of podfilters, i believe to clean plate is much easier than to clean filters
Yeah, it's gonna be easier, I'm just not that sure if Mr MSVA will approve. I may give them a call and see what they say as guidance... 😁👍
@@QuickBikes Well i hope they will allow it. Here in croatia anything thats nit stock is highly problematic
Definitely C, with possibly a hugger fitted to keep it clean
Thank you matey 👍
I think that in front of the back wheel looks superb but I guess you need to check with the tester. If it was a smaller plate 8x6 or 7x5 then defo under the tail. The big plate can always get swapped out after the test. I had 2 plates for my RF900, one for mot and one to swap. Think it was 7x5. Never got grief from any police that I encountered.😂
Geddon 😁
I'm may well mock up a couple of options here just to see what they look like and how visible they are 😁👍
Sorry to say Option A ,as its the norm and more chance of passing the test .The number plate has to be the 9x7 as you don't have the reg until it pass.It would look good under the seat and the bike would look mean with out the plate flapping at the rear like an after thought but rules are rules.not to be bent or broken.what ever way you go will look great as always keep up the good work .
I know what you mean matey and that was the original plan. Things can of course be changed later once it has passed, but the main focus is getting it passed. Thank you matey 😁👍
Most manufacturers extend it out from seat, further over the tyre, inorder to clear tyre, less angle required then. So another option could be A extended out a bit further.
simplest to get through the test, then 8x6 in A for the new owner
It's certainly an option matey, thank you 😁👍
Number plate option A under the tail light, then after certification you can just put a smaller plate back in its place
Thank you dude 😁👍
Option A, under the rear light up at an angle, I think you’ll get less grief from plod than if it’s way under the seat halfway down the bike, that’s my two pennies worth! 👍🏻
Thank you matey 😁👍
Its a legal requirement that you should display your number plate on the back of your motorbike. I presume that means the end of the body work . But they do look cool under the seat 👍
Strangely enough, there's nothing to say it has to be the rear most point, just stuff about visibility etc 😁👍
Option A, with as steep an angle as you can get away with, leagely speaking !
Either option C or A keep up the good work Matey
Thank you matey 👍
Option C with a hugger to stop the splatter
Thank you matey 😁👍
I think that option A would look best.
The bike is coming along nicely,should look really good when finished.
Thank you matey 😁👍
Option D.
Also get the matching seat for the replacement SRAD tail unit. No need to make everything painful and difficult.
It's a race seat unit, so the seat is basically like a coaster. I was hoping to have something a little more comfortable for a daily 😁👍
@@QuickBikes put a neoprene pad on it. You will be fine...
Hehehe 🤣😂
Option A 💯
Thank you matey 👍😁
Option D, in my humble (often wrong) opinion 👍
Hehehe... Thank you matey 👍😁
You could do option a and extend it a few cm to the back (the top a bit behind the bike) that helps clearance a lot on the bottom. Just some spacers
Yeah, I need to mock up some options and see what they look like before deciding I think, but at least a couple of.options.are now.in the bin 😂🤣
Tail dragger, but put a fender under the number plate...that's what I did works great
Thank you matey 😁👍
I like a tail dragged, but an extended tail tidy type arrangement would be my choice
I may just mock one up to see what it looks like 😁👍
Thank you matey 😁👍
Option A but I think to be different a well designed tail dragger would work a treat yep changed my mind option D or try both.
Hehehe... More work 🤣😂
Thank you matey 😁👍
Option A here 👍
Thank you matey 😁👍
In order of preference: A, D, C (eventual owner might opt to ride with a show plate). I'm with you on the side mount, not right for this style of bike. Keep up the excellent work dude.
Thank you matey, that's kinda what I'm thinking 👍
1st choice option C, 2nd D
Thank you matey 😁👍
My suggestions too!
Option C deffo!!
Hehehe... Thank you matey 😁👍
My opinion is tail dragger 😎👍
Thank you matey 😁👍
Option C, you may need to add a number plate light though and a red reflector, I have a brand new 1 I can send to you free if required.
I've already got the light etc matey, but thanks for the offer 👍😁
hi dude D love it
Thank you matey 😁👍
At an angle under the seat at the back. I lost mine into the tyre a couple of times before I realised that the plate was flapping at the same time the wheel was rising. Making stiffened triangulated brackets solved it. Until I’d fixed that I was planning to use an off-road type flexible plate. I noticed that BMW Off-road training school use these. They look like standard plates but aren’t going to get sucked in and shattered by a brush with the back tyre.
Don't the flexible plates just wobbly and shake about? I've heard of them but never seen one...😁
If it was mine A. The stand looks neat mate.
Thank you matey 👍
Option A is imo the better option moved the number plate from rear huger to under seat on the mvagusta dragster I had and looked so much better there a company in OZ called new rage cycles they do a tail tidy bracket for mv dragsters with strip led indicators realy clean look sure you could nick some ideas from
Thank you matey, I'll go take a look 😁👍
i would go with option A . you know it makes sense my son lol
Thank you matey 😁👍
doing a tail dragger on my Suzuki, but it's more of a cafe style, doesn't need to look as angry as your asbo xD
Doing it with a pair of hollow tubes so I can run the wires hidden inside them as well (where I live the plate needs to be lit up)
Yeah, they need to be lit up here as well as having a rear reflector. 😁👍
option A would suit it. 👍
I reckon, and it was the original plan 😁👍
Thank you matey 😁👍
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I think it would look best under the seat unit, out of the way but I think legally it’s probably best just under the back light at a jaunty angle.👍🏻
Thank you 😊
Deffo option A,under the rear light at an angle will be legal aswell..👍
Thank you matey 😁👍
Option C
Thank you matey 😁👍
D would look good
Thank you matey 😁👍
Side mount for the mot then a 5 x7 under the seat at a suitable angle
Thank you matey 😁
Option A angled under the tail light 👍
Thank you matey 👍
Regarding plate, should of drop it off the paddock stand first. Also I believe its the size of the letters now. Got to be option A and I think when off stand you'll have more of an angle. Don't forget the light and £1 reflector. On S1000r I use a 8x6 now as a smaller just looks to inviting to be stopped. I wished we could use option B but I reckon even if you got it thru the test, you get stopped real quick by plod.
Really it needs to be on the floor and not the bench as well... I'm going to mock up some options, have the bike on the floor and.just see what they look like I think before making the final version 😁👍
I'd go for the tail dragger / chain guard option.
Thank you matey 😁👍
Option A, after the inspection you can always bend the plate up a bit or quit a bit 🤣to give the tire a bit more space
Thank you matey 😁👍
Option A from me 👍
LOADS of folks prefer A...
Thank you matey 😁👍
Option A for road, Option D for sva pass
Aahhhhh... I hadn't thought of making one just for the test... Hmmmm...👍
I had a little bit of grief with my under seat plate from the plod on my GSXR 7/11
So I went for option A in the end, but then I went with a smaller 5x7 plate..
It was ok in the normal position not really noticeable from the side and of course you can check the suspension travel when fitted ...
Cheers 👍😁
Thank you matey, good to know 😁👍
Think it’ll be option A. I do like option C but I’m also sure you’ll constantly get pulled by plod for it 🤔
Yeah probably, just because it's different 😂🤣
Option "D" mate 👍
Thank you matey 👍
Option A then change it to C after it's test.
Thank you matey 😁👍
For me I think D is your best option for getting through the MVSA with the least hassle.
(5) This paragraph requires the plate to be fixed-
(a)vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practicable, and
(b)in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area having the diagonal length specified in paragraph (6).
I might be mocking up a few options here 😂🤣
i would go with the under the back light, you need to put a light to it yet,, not under by the shock thats asking for a fail on SVA by time get some weight on seat you wont see enough so option A or D
Thank you matey 😁😊
Option A definitely, the other positives look naff imho
Thank you matey 👍😁
I had visions of the thread hanging off your sleeve getting caught in the lathe!😵
Was there !!
I didn't see that... 😬
Option A
Thank you matey 😁👍
Have you considered a Honda side stand switch? Mounts on the bolt for the stand. Could be a neat solution.
I hadn't, thank you matey. I'll go take a look see 👍😁
Option 3 all day long, a bugger to keep clean no doubt, but i'm guessing ASBO will become someones summertime spinner so maybe not such an issue? Coming along nicely Q.
Thank you matey 😁👍
Mate, simple answer: Option A, at a very jaunty angle... All other options are shite... 😁👍
Hehehe.... thank you matey 😁👍
In the netherlands (where the bike will end up) its a legal requirement that the numberplate is at the back. I asume it is the same in the rest of europe. I would take option a after mot you can place a smaller plate and bend it a bit. (No more than 45 degrees to stay legal)
Hehehe...you're very confident matey 😁👍
What about under the rear light but on cool little adjustable stand offs that you make to mimic the yokes ot the rear sets. Then it could be test friendly and fully flipped up asbo style easily.
The over the tyre ones can look cool, but they have to be fairly high up to not self destruct. And then they look shite.
Side plates are for bobbers and some of the more out there rat fighters, I think there should be a symmetry sort of when you look at a cafe racer dead on from a front or rear angle.
Also I recently failed an mot for no white rear number plate light and no reflector.
Thanks for that matey, much appreciated. The indicators will on the mounting plate as well as the light and reflector 😁👍
Option C and D for me. Both have advantages. C would keep the best part of the muck away from the shock and filters, but the constant blast from rad grime would wear the number playe away. Admittedly, it's more in keeping with the azbo nickname.
D the tail dragger would, as you said, if you included a funky chain guard would also stop crap. But it should stop a decent amount hitting the shock, filters, chain lube up your back, etc. Also, isn't there something about positioning indicators for the MSV.
DAFT QUESTION, i always thought that if you had the frame number, then the bike would still have a V5 and its original identity no matter how you modified the frame. You did use the original headstock, didn't you ...
Thanks for chipping in matey. I think I may end up making something for the test and something else for afterwards 🤣😂
There is a criteria for the indicators regarding spacing and plan was to have them on the numberplate mount as well 😁👍
A for me.
I like the idea of C but think will have them legal ramifications
Thank you matey 😁👍
Not sure about where to put it - however I am not sure that the rear tyre can be sticking out as the last thing if that makes sense, you might need to check the reg's. I think that is why some of these bikes have the wrap around the back of the tyre
The MSVA manual is a bit vague... It just says it has to be rearward facing in the rear most practicable place. The tyre is allowed to be the last thing down the road matey 👍
Hmm option A looks the best. Have you considered looking at how the latest crop of sport bike reg holders look as they all seem to extend out further away from the bike so no issues with the plate hitting the wheel?
I think tight up and close as an option A would look best, but I know what you mean. I may mock up both and put it to a vote at this point...
I thought option C even before you started going through them all.
But thought option D was different & should fit in well with a chain guard..
Thank you matey 👍
Option A - once you've checked the angle - remember you need to illuminate it and I think have a reflector somewhere.
Thank you matey. Lighting it's easy enough and I'll just stick a reflector to the numberplate 👍
Option A or C 👍
Thank you matey 😁😊
Option "C" matey
Thank you matey 😁👍
The minimum size of a UK number plate depends on the number of characters in the registration mark, and what characters they are. As far as the location of the plate is concerned, anywhere other than option A always looks terrible.
Thank you matey 👍😁
Option a and raise the back a little
Thank you matey 😁👍
Option A mounted vertical with linkage to swingarm, tilts more as suspension moves.
How about mounting side stand inside the frame, so when up, its hidden
The side stand is sort of welded on now matey 🤣😂
A lot of people seem to be going for option A...
You have yourself one hell of a quandry my TH-cam friend. In my not so humble opinion, the real problem is that Oh So Ugly British number plate. ☹But that is a problem only the High & the Mighty can solve. 😇
As for me, I think Option Z is the answer. While it would require a revamp of the rear light, maybe you should think about using the rear 'upturn' on the rear of the seat for the number plate.
It's massive for a.number plate isn't it 🤣🤣😅
Thanks for chipping in dude 😁
Check the size of your number plate as legally there's no standard size. The only requirement is spacing 11mm border 10mm between letters and numbers and 13mm between upper line and lower. I recently purchased one from 'JDM plates' and the plate because it has a 1 in it ended up 194mm x 164mm with the required BSau145e number and the manufacturer name and postcode. If yours doesn't it could be 228mm x 164mm which could help with placement being much smaller and also it comes with a business size card authenticating legality.
That's good to know, thank you matey. I'm just going by what is the legal size on Google 😁👍
Option D
Thanks matey 😁👍
Option A for me, i would do something simular that you did on Gixit
That was the original plan matey. Thank you for chipping in 😁👍
D or A. Think D could look cool if made out of right diameter tube plus it would be removeable but it would be more awkward to light.
Yeah... I see what you mean...
Thank you matey 😁👍
Under rear light. I got stopped bye the old bill cos put it. Where my rear shock is. On my supermoto ❤🛠🏍🔧
Good to know, thank you matey 😁👍
Option C fits the cleanness of the bike the most, is it legal though? It would have a light and it would be readable, so who knows. It would keep the rear end very light in keeping with how you cleaned up around the engine...
It would be good I reckon, but I'm not sure what the bloke at the test centre would be thinking... Thank you matey 😁👍
Option a ,d
Thank you matey 👍😁
under the red light angled so that IF the wheel clobbers it it just bends up ,,, or sell it and with the proceeds ( from selling the number plate) and buy an Enfield
Thank you matey 😁👍
Anybody who says side deserves a sound thrashing horsewhipped.😀 The rear on a extended bracket nearly as bad. Under the light isn't too bad. I don't reckon whoever has the bike will stick to keeping that size plate anyway. Plus if you have it there you can incorporate the indicators into the bracket, unless you have a different plan for siting those. I like the option of by the rear shock but think any stroppy copper might not agree n' possibly not MOT tester either. Although you say it can be seen from the rear can the whole plate be seen when the wheel is moving up n' down on the road by any plod following?
It's a tough one init... I think I'm going with normal placement which is what I planned originally. I might mock up an extended version just to see what it looks like, but indicators would be on the number plate mount as well 😁👍
Option A. Tail draggers and side mounts are shite and way back under the seat will, as you said get covered in road film. Here you can get al the numbers and letters in one line, smaller font than cars too. What can you get there that's smaller?
They're dead fussy here about the number plate size and it HAS to be 9x7 for the test unfortunately... It will get swapped out for a smaller one I'm sure, but it has to get through the test first matey 😁👍
0ption A for me if you stick it out near the rear tyre you might as well built a BMW or ] custom. bike...also as soon as it got a mot stick a smaller 6x4 on
Thank you matey 😁👍
Just a comment for side stand switch, I was thinking maybe a rear brake light switch. My Fazer has one that is make when not in operation, according to the Haynes manual.
Something like that would work for sure. You can tell the m unit to work on the make or break state, so no it only needs to be a momentary switch of some sort.
Thank you matey 👍😁
C or D for me. C probably more preference to hide away more. Are you not planning on a rear mud guard or will this not be a bike for riding in the rain lol.
I'm going for looks matey, so compromises will be made 😂🤣
That said, the new owner could always fit a hugger or something 😁👍
I looked at the MOT inspection manual, 'C' may not be acceptable - "Rear registration plates fitted to motorcycles manufactured on or after 1 January 1980 must: • have black characters on a yellow background; • be fitted vertically, or as close to vertical as is reasonably practicable; • be mounted towards the rear of the motorcycle" - I like the Panigale idea, or 'D' hugger. 🤔 Yes will need to be illuminated, and yes will need a separate reflector if the tail light does not include it. Don't think you can just stick one onto the number plate.
Thank you matey. C may have a few benefits, but the bike has to get through the MSVA test and I think I'd be pushing my luck...
@@QuickBikes Something else occurred to me today, you only need the 9 x 7" plate for the test, afterwards you could change to a smaller one? Then it's only a case of fitting the 9x7 somewhere for the test, and the smaller one where it'll be more attractive. Just a thought. 😊
Yeah, that's the plan matey 👍😁
A 👍
and what's up with you microphone? Sounds but muffled, noticed it on the last couple of your vids now? Or is it just my phone?
Not sure... It could we'll need all the grit blowing out of it again 🤣🤣🤣
C under seat with a chain guard/hugger
Thank you matey 😁👍
Hi Quickie, would'nt a brake light switch work for the side stand, as that can be mounted in the vertical!
Possibly yes matey, I'm still looking around at switches at the minute 😁
what about regular place but hinged/sprung no idea how it would be done though
Yeah, I'd prefer something that stays where I put it matey. Good.idea though 😁👍
Under the light… least offensive imho hahah
Thank you dude 👍
option A
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stand switch
It'll be going on later, tucked in behind the frame matey on its own mount 😁👍