On a related note, a lot of women push away "nice guys" specifically BECAUSE they are afraid of ending up in a situation like this. Being nice isn't about being stuck on another person; it's about being courteous, kind and above all, caring about them for THEIR sake (not yours). If you only care about someone because you want to be with them, you don't want a relationship; you want a pet.
Not only good sloppy cringe and a happy ending - but it is like a PSA for people that don't know these dudes really exist. People need to know how to defend themselves against their cringejitsu and they can be dangerous to be along with.. bleh.
@@1234567895182because that was a friend for 10 years. She's gonna wanna understand why he is acting that way. That's just what a good friend would do.
If I knew someone like this I'd be leaking these messages to his friends, family. Plaster that shit everywhere because this pos deserves for everyone in his life to know who he really is
Tbh I disagree. Don't get me wrong, the guy here was 100% an incel and acted like a child to say the absolute least. But also, she clearly egged him on and didn't try at all to "walk away" from the conversation.
@@JadaTheSupremeif that’s what you takeaway from this you’re just as incel r/niceguys as he is, she said way too many times they are only friends and that she has a boyfriend she was not egging him on at all you weirdo
This happened to me with my best friend. We met in 7th grade and were pretty much inseparable. Never once did he give me the impression he was interested in me at all, though I had a little crush on him at the beginning. We were best friends for nearly 15 years and he came to be like a brother to me. Throughout that time, he dated other girls, talked to me about the girls he was interested in and I did the same with guys I dated. Never did he ever show jealousy or discouragement in me dating. When I met my now husband, I knew he was the one. So naturally I told my best friend about him and what I was feeling. My "friend" totally lost it. He told me he had basically wasted 15 years of his life waiting for me to figure out that we were supposed to be together. Again, never once did he give me the impression he was interested in a relationship with me beyond friendship. No flirting, no innuendo. Nothing. Even the birthday cards and gifts we gave to each other were incredibly platonic. It came out of nowhere. He told me we were done and he never wanted to speak to me again. I felt so betrayed. All these experiences which I had valued so much during my adolescence and formative years, were half-truths. I gave him space and tried to make contact several weeks later to talk about what had happened. But he never responded. He has stayed true to his word and has never spoken to me or attempted to reach out to me to this day. It has been 10 years since we last spoke.
Christ! that's horrible! i'm so sorry you had to go through that. i can only imagine how horrible that feeling must've been for you. to think you know someone who you genuinely saw as a close friend, only for them to tear their masks off and show their true colors like that.... i hope you're doing okay now.
There are a lot of dudes that hide their abusive behavior for years until they get married and trap a woman. If they can do that he can do it for 7 years.
@@niftyfishTbf, u can totally see red flags in a person, but still accept them as a good friend. A lot of people I’m friends with have personalities and habits that I would never want in a significant other, but that’s fine because they’re just friends 🤷🏻♂️. Adds to the spice of life.
She seems like a nice and patient person Thank god she didn't fall for him during the 7 years they've been together She might be really depressed over losing a friend of 7 years But she dodged a bullet
coming from someone this has happened to, in all seriousness yes!!!! its so hard trying to make friends with men when this is the back of your mind.@@eddwarriior
I knew a friend who was just like this and I don't understand it. If it didn't work in like the first 3 months it's not going to work after 7 WHOLE YEARS.
@@leanflavoredpringles2353 I see two possible reasons as to why a person might behave like that; I mean the "long game", not the outburst afterwards. That's not to say I agree with any of them. 1. It might be like with gamers checking every lootable box and every wall for loot and secrets. It's not like anything will be there, "BUT IT COULD BE" and that's enough for some. 2. This isn't so much a reason, but more of a way to consider reality. If a person that lacks self-awareness believes something, nothing besides personal experience will make them reconsider that belief. Because, unintuitively, reasoning is often secondary to faith. If you believe sth, reasons will come to you. And they don't have to make sense, because you're already convinced.
@@bear9295Pretty sure this guy saw it as an “investment”, which is why, when he finally “made his move” and it massively bombed (in typical friend zone fashion), he went totally ape. This guy is the epitome of a narcissistic incel: his fragile ego can’t handle rejection so he’s been avoiding it for 9 years by tagging along in the friend zone, building up an obsession over someone who will never reciprocate. Personally, I can’t imagine such a thing but, logically analyzed, I’m pretty sure that’s what went down.
The unfortunate thing is that he probably won’t learn from this. He’ll just focus on her calling him an incel and think, “I’m not crazy, she’s just toxic.”
Damn the message he sent saying “a seven year waste of my time” is so sad :/ I feel for that girl so much. Thinking you had a genuine cool guy friend for 10 years just to find out the only intentions he had of being around you for so long were to date you and eventually be sexual towards/with you. Some people really just aren’t shit
Personally, i doubt this guy was always like this if they had been friends for that long. I'm only assuming obviously, but to me it seems like he fell into the "Alpha male red pill man don't take no as an answer" pipeline that became popular throughout 2021 and 2022.
@@christosdoesthings honestly you might be right, he may not have felt that way towards her the entire time but the fact that he chose to say that to her regardless is messed up and makes me sad for her :(
@@beepbop182 I noticed this detail now, notice how he says "after 2021 i felt like a better version of myself", 2021 was the year that the "alpha bro" thing became huge. My bet is that he was somehwat insecure but a nice person, but the "alpha male" scam artists pray on men like that. It's more depressing that way, really.
guys cant be friends with someone they are attracted too... a lot of dudes, just like him, play the long game hoping to win the girl over someday... and women fool themselves to think otherwise. dont believe me? ask any single "guy friend" if they want to have casual sex, see how they respond. They are called orbiters.
Idk I think it’s fake. A lot of these kind of videos been popping up a lot for me recently. Each time the girl is super calm. I think it’s to come off as very calm and cooperative. Trying to come off as the good person for social media
@@triggeredlatina Women tend to stay calm in these situations in general, especially if they're sad or hurt. They don't tend to get mad. Not to mention if they go off, a lot of women are afraid the guy might come after them for revenge. There's also a lot of voice messages/videos of guys talking like this lately, and it's because women are now taking a stand of publicly shaming men like this.
One of your best qualities, is how humble you are. Many times you mention how immature you were during your younger days... And that is so relatable. It makes us feel that we can grow and improve. Thanks for that Charlie
She was inhumanly reasonable when she asked if he had second thoughts about what he sent after time passed- she gave him a golden opportunity to apologize and he still wiffed it.
@@amoliskimore like extra humane. She is a sweet person who still wanted to hold on to the chance this person was just having a mental breakdown. Someone who she actually considered a good friend which was mentioned a couple times even when being attacked with all that cringe. Bless her heart for her patience but the ungrateful clod did not see that growing opportunity.
@@amoliski That shit blew my mind, how would you even manage to type that shit out after he admitted to and did all that weird shit? That’s a skill man
As a Japanese who was born and raised in Japan, never knew shibumi means "authority without dominace"😂 The only shibumi I know is 渋味 which means bitter taste/astringency.
@@rw9931I think he got it from 渋み, which is an aesthetic like wabi-sabi. You are more knowledgeable than me since you are Japanese but from my understanding it refers to unintentional beauty (Shibui objects appear to be simple overall, but they include subtle details, such as textures, that balance simplicity with complexity). Either way he stretched the definition wayyyy out and probably didn't know wtf he's talking about either
Honestly I've been in this situation so many times in the past. People joke about the 'friend zone' but never stop to think how shit and hurtful it is to be 'girlfriend zoned'. You think you're friends with someone and they just want to get in your pants.
I feel this way too. I try to reject people gently but firmly and it's horrible when people refuse the rejection, especially when they hide their refusal and pursue friendship. I've never had a genuine male friend (they always end up pulling this bs) and have barely made any female friends either. It makes me feel like the only people who like me are the ones who want something from me. It's depressing and even though I'm not perfect, I would like to think that I could be a good friend to another person (and think I already am to the two women I'm friends with). I think these guys just don't get how painful it is to be seen as valuable only for romantic/sexual use, because they lack empathy and have never personally experienced this kind of pain. It's also scary because when they finally explode, it feels like it's only a matter of time before they try to rape/kidnap you and since they were your "friend" they know where you go and maybe even some people who know you. I'm still vigilantly watching a guy because he did this to my friend, and we'll be looking over our shoulders until she moves cities because of him
@@kinseylise8595 Maybe you will find more real friends if you get a hobby/job and talk to people who do the same stuff that you do. Consider joining a club or something and connecting to the people there.
Rule of thumb, if some guy is constantly doing nice things for you, always there when you are down and doesnt at least occasionally talk about other girls he might be interested in, he's not your friend. He's trying to sleep with you. I'm in no way blaming you for this stuff, just saying these guys are easy to spot if you look. Very very few people are just awesome to you without some sort of agenda.
that woman is a saint for even taking the time to read his messages and keep responding to him, i would've ghosted that creep and cut him out of my life so fast
That guy should be counting his blessings that she was respectful to him. Any other person would’ve ripped this guy apart emotionally, grabbed his IP/physical address and given it to other people so they could fuck with him, or any other nefarious shit that likely would end with him either in the shit or _dead._ I don’t think the chucklefuck incel realised how bad this could’ve gotten if he ended up pulling this shit on the wrong girl.
@lemonmelon1883 That's horrible take my man, this creep is quite a degenerate but there is always a slim chance that one day he will mature and loose all this toxic behaviour. Ghost him, block him and if he tries anything outside of msgs, get a restraining order. But wishing him death? That's way too extreme
she shouldn't have, though. "i would've ghosted that creep and cut him out of my life so fast" is exactly what she should've done from the very beginning.
Holy shit. She just lost a 7 year friendship, finding out she's been lied to the whole time. That could be downright heartbreaking. 7 years of shared experiences, now tainted. Can you even imagine?
Tbh idk what’s worse, wasting 7 years on a failed long game attempt, or losing a 7 year friendship. Both equally shit for different reasons but it’d have to say the long game scenario is worse only cuz at least with the friend, you still could’ve dated people the last 7 years
@@marqgzso you're feeling sorry for someone deranged enough to CON A WOMAN FOR NEARLY A DECADE? That's straight up betrayal what she experienced, and he's pissed because he thinks she owes him some poon. I'd never wish this situation upon anyone, it's sick.
What I learned from this video: 1. Don’t just befriend a girl in the hope that they become your partner 2. Don’t be a twat when someone rejects you 3. Never ask to or just send explicit images to bribe someone to like you when they don’t 4. Listen to Charlie’s dating advice
this is so insane that there are people that are so detached with reality and any type of social interaction. he went fully scorched earth. this narration is so great. 10/10
@@ShadowSkyXI hope so. Actually feels horrible to think someone played the long game 7 years and got rejected 💀💀💀💀 like legit tragic shit like yeah bros a weirdo but goddamn that’s awful
@@JasonJia11 There is nothing wrong with feeling desperate or wanting to be validated. It is when we let those feelings control and dominate us, especially to the detriment of others, that it becomes a problem. Now that is not a reason to just bottle it all up, it is important to communicate with those close to you and try to find a way to meet your own needs in a reasonable way that respects everyone's boundaries. Unlike the shithead featured today
Can't believe she actually messaged him back after that mess to try to salvage anything from it and he still acted like that. He's lucky she ever had anything to do with him again.
@@CalmClamFam maybe he could use some meds and get a hobby or two. There are infinite possibilities as far as things he could do with his time that are far more healthy than this.
I can't believe he kept responding, bro should've had a "this shit ain't worth it" moment and stopped responding instead of making himself look like an idiot.
TRUU, i kinda glad with all depressed shit my dumb brain thought before. I never getting UNHINGED like this. I feel bad for the man, because he 100% not got real life lesson yet. I feel bad for the women too, since she probably give him space enough to be close with her yet this massive dick head go full nuts on her. Such a shame to be honest. what a circus.
My first suspicion would be that he got drugged or something, but given that he had this behaviour over the course of multiple days, it seems he is just an incel
I've seen a lot of these types of text conversations, and what's crazy to me is how similar they all are. It's almost uncanny, like the guy follows a script every time or they're all the same person. It generally goes like this: the guy likes the girl, but the girl doesn't feel the same way. She politely declines his advances and hopes to be friends. The guy gets a little more frantic and will plead for the girl to reconsider, at which point the girl will thoroughly explain the way she feels, usually calling out his odd behaviour... After this, they ALWAYS get aggressive and/or defensive. They'll insult the girl and act as if they never liked them to begin with. A really odd pattern of behaviour. I wonder why it so often repeats itself?
It's like how kids in South Park started acting like caveman after noticing boobs the first time. Only reasonable explanation is that this is a primal reaction 😔
Spoiled kids who think they're "nice" because they are nerdy and not the stereotypical douchebag, so somehow they could never be a psychologically abusive idiot. Then they grow feeling so entitled to anything they want, they think women owe them poontang as a thank you for "being nice".
The fact that she was very respectful and considerate during this entire wacky conversation is insane. I wouldve blocked that dude almost immediately, but she was very thoughtful even after the most insane messages were sent
@@xPhantomxifywhy is that the assumption? it can't have just been a normal friendship, what mental gymnastics are you doing to make her out to be the bad guy ?
@@drunkenhobo8020 I don't know, it's something I did when I was younger. Someone would be a creep, I would forgive them, still try to be friends, and then be surprised when they are creeps again.
Wow that woman is a saint. She gave him so many opportunities to salavage their friendship. Its a shame the guy had such a festering wound from being rejected underneath it all.
I cannot believe how lenient and restrained she was throughout that entire interaction. She not only kept from insulting him back but even inquired about what was wrong with him and why he was acting the way he was. She probably just pities him.
Which I imagine feels way worse for him than if she’d gotten seriously angry - makes it better that she didn’t react as strongly as he’d probably wanted her to, positively or negatively. Being pitied is probably much more humiliating, which he deserved
I disagree, "what is wrong with you?" is often a loaded question. While it can be used sincerely, most people are actually saying "something is wrong with you, tell me what it is". The premise is "something is wrong with you" which will immediately put most people on the back foot - especially this guy who is clearly insecure. Also, the wall of text that prompted his outburst and the "what is wrong with you?" question is full of angry finger-pointing and assumptions of his intention, calling his behavior "weird" and "going all incel" (not disagreeing, just pointing out that it's accusatory and isn't going to help calm him down). She even clearly states she is angry with the way he's acting. While she is clearly a victim of this guy's delusional rantings, she wasn't "lenient and restrained" in her response either - but I don't blame her, he was being deeply disrespectful. It'd make any reasonable person angry, let alone having a close friend of 7 years suddenly pulling this crap.
Yeah its the equal opposite insult. Women cant be incels so that wont work on them, men are shamed for lack of sex, women are shamed for too much sex. @@shiny_cats2727
Dont listen to the first reply. Its perfectly fine to have never been in a relationship. I know our world is heavily sexualized, but dont let it bother you.
Right! Like being aggressive verbally and rude online doesn't necessarily mean you'll be aggressive in real life, but the thought that you know someone like this long enough that they know exactly where you live, your routine, maybe where you hide your spare key lol, where your family lives... it's horrifying. At least if you've just met someone and they're rude, you know you can either block them if it's online or run away if it's in person lol. But when they've been a close friend for a decade? Frightening.
@@AgitpropPsyop that's the caricatures in every one of these which makes me think they're fake..it's the calm, controlled woman and the irrational red pilled guy
@@Lord_of_the_Pies you know, I would normally agree with you if I didn’t know some of these irrational “sigma” dude’s myself. I think maybe they come across as fake because they’re just regurgitating the stuff they’ve heard online
She handled it well but really, she shouldn’t have tried to do the whole “we can still be friends.” It’s a trap that women fall into to make guys feel better but it does nothing but the opposite. She didn’t need time so that was a lie. She already knew she was with someone else and would never see this guy as more.
Charlie has covered a lot of weirdos, so I thought I was ready for anything. I thought him going on about how crazy this story was at the beginning was overkill. I thought “there’s no way it could be that bad and surprise the master of cringey texting stories himself”. Boy was I wrong. That “I grew this penis for you” caught me like a Mike Tyson left hook. What an absolutely insane weirdo.
I have spent my work shift listening to horror stories today, stories about drug use, cave exploring accidents, and man hunting animals… but this… why did this story shake me the most!?
This guy is such a sigma alpha chad that even Charlie can’t stop thinking about him. I can only imagine the despair this woman is going through to realize that she missed her once in a lifetime opportunity to call herself this guys girlfriend. Truly tragic, thoughts and prayers go out to her family
When Charlie said he "consulted the dark side" for advice and ended up sending memes to his crush, it made me wonder if the dark side was just his friend group
This is exactly why we need the internet- to publicly address weirdo's like the guy in this story. Thank you charlie for giving us consistent good laughs
and this type of comment is probably why the guy has so many issues to begin with. a delusional guy is failing miserably at communicating with a girl he likes, lets all make fun of him and laugh at him because we are so much better than him as a human beings This is how school shooters develop call his shit out, sure. The guy has to learn somehow. do you however have any compassion for this severely lost individual? it seems like you don't have any. It seems like his flaws and mistakes make you feel better about yourself, which I think is a fucked up way to look at this interaction and implies that you some unprocessed negative emotions(just like this lost guy) that you cover up by making fun of other people. What a weak and pathetic way to deal with your problems, I hope you, and the guy in this video get help so you, and the guy in this video, can stop spreading so much negativity in the world.
@@Tobbycat The comment you're responding to doesn't say anything about "hating" on the guy in question, he literally just said we need to be able to publicly address the problem. Because it IS a problem. We don't need to coddle the man babies who literally don't see women as equal human beings. We need to give them a wake up call.
I shamefully admit that I've taken the cringe train to Betaville a time or two in my day, but damn, this dude straight up jumped out of the airplane without a parachute and splattered himself all over Main St.
Holy heck! Hearing this whole meltdown, especially for someone like me who is terminally offline and who rarely stumbles across stories like this, really puts some of my own embarrassing moments into perspective! There was a girl I went to school with, from 6th to 12th grade; we were band kids, and shared an inordinate number of classes throughout the years, and I developed a crush despite rarely speaking. However, being self-conscious, introverted, and a self-made depressive*, I never knew how to approach her, leading to me spending hours mulling over how to even start a conversation. I did manage to ask her out a few times, but each time I lost my nerve and bailed before she could answer. By senior year, I was getting therapy and improving my outlook, and I realized that I had no shot, that I had fumbled so many times, and she knew I had fumbled so many times without attempting to reciprocate, that any interest wasn't mutual. I was able to begin to at least build a bit of an acquaintanceship in the last few months before graduation, but I never had the chance to properly apologize for my awful, creepy, embarrassing behavior the prior six years, and while I know she still lives in town as my friends have seen her around, I haven't run into her in the past two years I've been back from college either, so the embarrassment and pure cringe of the memories still weigh on me. But I'm certainly glad that in all the time I was being wishy washy, I never turned into the kind of person the guy in the story was! I'll gladly be remembered as that weird quiet kid who could barely stammer a whole sentence, rather than the one who became a raging A-hole; I'll certainly sleep better at night! *(long story short, in middle school, I thought being depressed was "cool", so I began deliberately hating myself and projecting my self-loathing onto others until I couldn't stop and had destroyed my own sense of self-worth. I know, how brilliant of me lol)
I think it's insane how this case always reminds me that there's people out there who just treats their crushes as prizes to win, the moment they being told "no" is the moment they immediately get so dependent over this person, it's always so creepy to see it.
Right? I mean, yeah, rejection sucks, and I don't think it's abnormal to feel a little shitty after it, especially if it's someone you really cared about. But being friends with someone for a major amount of time like that, only with the hope of fucking them, and getting angry like this after being told "thanks, but no thanks" is absolutely absurd.
@@ExperiMentalDonright, if he was so interested in her the moment he befriended her, I think it would've better if he just didn't waste her time for 7 YEARS and just would've asked her out earlier (which I still think she would've still rejected him) and see how it goes, and that let alone would've been better than befriending someone this long just to wait if they agree to fuck you.
Unironically I can see why he was hung up on her. She honestly handled the situation so well. Seemed like a mature person with a good head on her shoulders. She even tried to give him multiple ways out but the guy was determined to end their friendship! Really unfortunate for a long friendship to end in this manner. What a crazy story!
17:24 is just so wonderful to hear. I've been in her shoes and all everyone ever talk abt is how the guy is a shithead, but not sure I've ever heard someone (who isn't in the same situation) actually express these feelings or saying these words. Thank you
@@MisanthropolisI don’t know many people who would be fine after such a horrendous breakdown of what they though was a 7 year friendship, in which they received a bunch of abuse.
She even gave him clear outs he could have taken had he any ounce of remorse or shame in what he's done and said. Despite hours or days having gone by, he plows through the caution tape and signs like 'bridge out ahead'' and ''dead end'' and he said f*ck it, and proceeded to throttle the gas peddle to the floor finalizing the end of any salvageable relationship. Not that any woman in their right mind would want to salvage that. What a creep.
3:30: 1st chance to save the 9 year friendship. 5:30: 2nd chance. IF A WOMAN TELLS YOU SHE NEEDS TIME, YOU GIVE IT TO HER. 6:47: 3rd chance.If the answer is still not no after all that, she really doesn't want to end things. 7:20: 4th chance to take it back. 9:16. 5th chance. She's in a Relationship and still texts you. You can STILL apologize. 11:45: 6th chance. she's STILL texting you. You can apologize and take this back. 14:08: 7th chance. You can say it's satire OR you had a meltdown and apologize. She's STILL texting you. 14:40: 8th chance.
@@Aussie50InspiredDavidZ all wrong for a single reason, the moment the guy went open about it, there was no more roo,m for friendship, and why would he want to be friends anymore aniway? would probably be even more fkd up
@@mauroleon2 you're probably right about the guy. But, the girl genuinely gave him so many chances. A chance to apologize and change the way he sees her. He could have reflected on things and distanced himself away from her,for awhile, to value the experiences they had as friends instead of viewing her as someone he needs to bang.
@@Aussie50InspiredDavidZ most people see this relationship like a year old or something if that was the case i think she would've cut it with him immediately and ghosted him but you need to remember its a 7 year old friendship i think it'll take much longer than that for it to end that's why she was still texting him because she remembers him as someone else
As a guy who came dangerously close to being the guy in this situation, the number one thing to do is just stop. Take a step away from the situation. If the first tentative ask is a hard no and you really considered her a friend at one time, just stop. Back off, for your sake and hers.
That dude blew a golden opportunity to have the perfect wingwoman in the dating scene. His only real chance at getting a GF and he decides to go full "nice guy" in hopes that she would fall for him. My current fiancee and I ended up together due to a college friend rejecting me. Instead of things becoming awkward, said friend and I had a long discussion to clear everything up so there weren't any misplaced emotions, and about a year later she was the primary instigator for me meeting someone who I'm so grateful for. Guys, don't piss away your allies because of a rejection.
Are women really not human to you 🥲 if we reject y’all’s sexual advancements, y’all gonna keep us as friends in hopes we introduce more girls to y’all? 💀
@@smileymoe9866not what he meant but I get what you’re saying, a lot of guys really do look at women that way and that’s just from the standpoint of privilege
I think a lot of it stems down to the fact that it seems like guys have more difficulty finding romantic partners than women do. Men have the burden of being expected to pursue and start relationships, men are expected to have much more of an active role, they are expected to be breadwinners and financially support women, etc. That's a societal thing and it's unfortunate but it's how things go.
14:50 The hat man is a phenomenon that occurs when you trip off of normal every day drugs, most often with benadryl. By saying "you're seeing the hat man", the implication is that he thinks she's "tripping", which he's using as slang for "crazy." So basically it's just a silly insult really.
As someone who’s experienced what this girl had, it hurt a lot. It happened a few times when I was in high school and it sucked. It gave me really bad insecurity on my value as a friend and whether my other friendships were real.
Same here, It's happened more than once. Its so strange how some people don't see us as individuals. But hey there are plenty of men, not chronically online, who will value your friendship.
ngl this really hurt me because i was just thinking from the girls perspective it was just bad. like its bad enough that random guys wanna be friends with her so they can sleep with her but a 7 yr old friendship was that, it just fucks with you mind. and i empathize with you and any girl that experiences this....this is just very sad..
same. dudes like this will act like rejection is the most painful experience a person can go through. & yeah rejection can hurt, but what also really hurts is finding out someone you thought was a friend was only tolerating you bc he wanted to fuck you the whole time. hell, i'd argue that friendship breakups can be more painful than romantic ones.
@@lynn4840 Yup I’m a dude so it didn’t happen to me until later in life but it really sucked crazy how there’s just some straight sleeper agents out there
OH MY GOD!! I had this happen to me as well, a friend for almost 6 years did this to me, but it was in person/landline as this was before cell phones, (yes I'm old lol), and it does feel VERY much like a betrayal!! I feel so bad for her.
I really bad for her because honestly that was probably the awkward scenario could you have with someone you considered her friend, she clearly didn't wanted to hurt him but just wanted to let him know what she genuinely felt, sucks that her friend was a creep.
I think she knew the whole time, she said he used to talk bad about any guy she dated. Some people just ignore red flag then act surprised then shit hits the fan.
For her to go back after all the awful shit he said and still check to see if he was serious or just lashing out in order to try to salvage the friendship, that is incredibly admirable.
Not really. She humored that situation far too long and should have blocked and moved on. He already made it weird and she not only has a bf but one she’s in a serious relationship, all according to her. There is no salvaging once he made his intentions clear. That would be disrespectful to her bf. Keeping a friend around that wants to sleep with her but whatever. Many girls do that anyways. SMH
@@triggeredlatinaI was going to say this, I would’ve blocked him the second he made advances. Thats why I no longer have male-straight friends anymore. My last male friend tried to force himself on me when we were drunk. He apologised but I could no longer see him as a safe person to be around.
I'm sorry to hear that someone did that to you and that you don't feel safe but not being able to have even platonic relationships with that many people is kinda not great, I hope that things get better for you eventually@@Cumulusly
@@triggeredlatina Again, you're spamming this and blaming her for being patient and careful, but you have to stop for a second and think how hard it must've been for her to do that after a 7 year old friendship and how dangerous that could've gone, if she blocked him and he would've turned more angry, because they know eachother in real life. Which would also make the blocking useless lmao. "Many girls do that anyway smh" Ah yes, latina culture where we find a way to make the woman the bad guy and blame them for being too careful lol. Your name checks out so bad it hurts.
I find it actually tragic how there are so many men out there who, instead of actively and playfully flirting and letting a girl know his intentions, just decide to wait around for YEARS to actually come out of NOWHERE and confess to a love like it's some sort of Disney movie
Exactly. Not only are you wasting this girl’s time by pretending you’re going to be her friend and nothing more, but you’re wasting your own time chasing this crazy fantasy of her falling in love with you. Dudes need to do themselves a favor and only keep girl friends around when they actually see them as a just a friend. And pursue a girl and make your intentions clear from the start if you’re interested. If she rejects you, take the L. More time wouldn’t fix the fact that she does not like you romantically/sexually.
@@sophie-mp7hsin general yeah, the last chick i was talking to was adamant wed remain friends, and id respect that besides a little flirting once in a while that would stop once she shut it down again, but damn did she get jealous when i got with my current girlfriend, i dont actually talk to her too much anymore. Kinda Sucks, she was dope to kick it and drink with
Or maybe just establish boundaries whenever you’re trying to become close to ppl. A lot of guys don’t treat their guy friends like they do their female friends bc we do different things. So whenever they do certain things it doesn’t feel like something “friends” would do. But to the other party it’s just “friendly”. The longer it goes on unchecked. The stronger the emotions feel until eventually it explodes.
@@MichaelAllen-rr2cnyou just gotta read the chick. My coworker was adamant we would never fuck, but we also fucked like 3 hours later… fucking and wanting to date is a little different though
I too once confessed/and got rejected by a friend before, understanding the feeling wasn't mutual, I accepted that and moved on. And I'm so fucking glad I did, to know I could've been this guy is criminal enough
It's so easy when you're young to believe that just being around a girl and being nice will 'pay off'. I kind of hovered near a girl for a while in college, and mercifully I never did anything cringe, but it was still gross of me to not be open and honest about wanting a relationship early on.
One thing I've always admired about Charlie is that he will actually admit to his millions of followers on a public video that he's speaking from personal experience on why he knows not to do something incredibly embarrassing for most people. People online criticize others like in this video, but very few say they used to be guilty of it too and are more sort of hoping other people won't repeat the same mistakes.
I can thankfully say I have never done anything like that. If a girl rejected me when I was a teen I would get sad and then move on. Then I realized in my early 20s it is their loss(or not), and stopped caring about rejection at all.
That's what I really like about him. I'll admit I used to be cringe, that's why I can say I know better and am also in awe of people who don't grow out of it cause eventually I was like bruh to myself
Holy shit that was a tough read. I legitimately asked out a girl a couple weeks ago and after 3 days of thinking she decided no. I’m so glad I didn’t do anything like this guy. You shouldn’t view rejection as trying to win them over, you need to see it as “this isn’t the right person for me.” We both were super good friends and now that she’s rejected me it’s been great cause the feelings stopped. Literally nothing has changed in my life despite the fact and doing something like this guy is my absolute nightmare.
I’m so amazed at the sheer amount of patience and resilience that girl has! Like all of the abuse that weirdo verbally throws at her and she still wanted to be friends and maybe forgive him!
@@MrProthallnot really. Think about it, he was her friend for almost a decade before this. That’s a decade of history and memories together as friends, I would certainly try and salvage whatever was left after an interaction like this. I’ve had something like this happen to me and I was in denial that it was even happening for like a good full day. loosing a good friend bc they decided to be an ass one day is a really hard thing to accept
@@MrProthall She ripped him a new one multiple times. Nothing about this shows a pushover. It shows someone who has ACTUAL compassion and empathy and gave the guy a chance to be a real human being with her, as a friend she had for a decade. What a moronic comment.
He will probably never get over this stuff without him realizing that he needs professional help himself, it's sad that some people get this delusional and crazy.
Megamind tried to warn us about this kind of "nice guy" culture. It just sucks that it's well-deserved love came so late when people like Hal were already well established by established, and the result is this
@@zanelemleyI haven’t watched it in a bit either but I generally remember the story but yeah just in case I’m wrong about some details this is why. In the movie, there’s this guy named Hal who’s “friends” with a girl named Roxanne. Secretly he has a stalker like obsession with her and believes he is the most perfect and nicest guy she could ever have. Multiple times she tries to be alone with her while she says she’s not comfortable with that as she can sense there’s some romantic tension that she doesn’t want. Sometime after, Hal gets superpowers and tries to use it to impress Roxanne but after finding out she’s not impressed and that she also likes Megamind, Hal completely lashes out in an uncle type way. I remember watching the movie in theaters and thinking it’s a cool parody of people who say “nice guys finish last”, but nowadays it’s almost scary how accurate this probably is to a lot of degenerates out there. Some of his dialogue is eerily similar to what I’ve heard a lot of the Andrew Tate fanboys say. Again my details are probably a bit off or not specific enough but definitely rewatch the movie. Opens your eyes on how ahead of its time it was.
From what I understand "Shibumi" the practice of finding meaning in a paradoxical statement (for example: "Elegant simplicity. Effortless effectiveness. Understated excellence. Beautiful imperfection.")
I'll admit, I was almost like this guy in the past, but I don't think I ever had a melt down like this. I feel extremely embarrassed. Watching all of this hits too close to home. I can't really do much else other than taking it as a lesson and become a better person.
Yeah as a teen and even with my previous ex’s i blew up a fuckton. Ego and narcissism is a helluva trip. Onwards and upwards, emotional maturity comes with time and perseverance. Use what you’ve learnt to forge a better you.
im a girl, but i definitely feel embarrassed because i used to be sort of like this guy when it comes to obsessiveness and not being able to control my emotions.
I was almost similar before, in the way I was begging at first. Then I grew the fuck up and realized how that mindset is putrid. Glad I will never be that way again
Lot of teens have been this way. I have been too, tho it was all long distance, with no consequences. I think that at end of the day, the total net effect has been positive after growing out of it
And the scary thing is just how obsessive these kinds of people are. It is genuinely frightening when you’ve either been in or known someone in a situation similar to this.
What ever emotional strife you are going through know that there is always an end tot he tunnel and ultimately you will reach it humanity has gone through strife for centuries and well humanity overcame it buddy and you will if there is any people bringing you down well fuck the noise buddy, i heard this in a meme once but i love it tbh "tough times never last only tough people do" keep your head up.
True. Wrote similar texts when i was like 15. I look back at that in shame, and promised myself i never do that again (which i didnt). And now i dont even bother anymore, i dont want to drag people into my misery so i just stay alone. Its the best for everyone.
Why would she try to salvage it though? She knew he wanted a se*ual relationship the whole time and kept stringing him along. And don't give me that crap that 'she didn't know...how could she know?'. Trust me, everybody knows when someone is interested in them. They either choose to ignore it or play like it'll maybe happen some day. If a woman truly cared about a man she would understand that romantic feelings will never allow friendship and immediately cut it off.
@@disenfranchised2.073 agree with you. Most girls who have a male friend know pretty well they are interested in more but keep being around them thinking that it can stay a friend relationship because she like the attention nonetheless. When this happen some men think they have a chance because the woman is giving him them attention as if it could maybe happen. Imagine spending 7 years of your life waiting for someone that give constant mixed signals just to turn you off when you are able to take your shot. Obviously it never end well because the guy feel like he bet on the wrong number the whole time and wished to not have spent this much time on someone who took advantage of his attention knowing 100% what was at stake.
@@disenfranchised2.073 Well what did you want her to do? they were close friends for literally 7 years, would she just tell him to stop being friends after he confessed his feelings? she legit considers him as a good friend, to shun him out of her life just because he had feelings for her? what is wrong with you lol
seeing charlie’s smile sparked a gleam in my eye and a slight palpitation of the heart. my grandmother was watching as well and now she can walk again. my goodness, may charlie inspire millions once more
_Shibumi_ actually refers to a Japanese standard of eloquence and beauty that is summarized as "simple". Two aspects of this are being unobtrusive and silent. She is _shibumi_ because she is trying to respond to him as little as possible and is therefore unobtrusive and silent. He is of course the exact opposite, like a fucking red and blue oni
I really appreciate videos like these because it calls out behavior that I've exhibited in the past. Never as insane but disappointingly similar, and it makes me reflect on a lot of shit I had wrong in my head in certain situations. Emotions are incredibly dangerous in cases like these and need days or weeks to get sorted out, or something will get said or something will happen that will spin a situation out of control fast and cause irreparable damage
Yeah man typing literally anything while feeling strong emotions is a big mistake. I also think a "1 on 1 friendship" between a man and a woman is pretty much impossible. Every dude I've ever known with female friends was either gay or an incel like the guy in this vid...
same with me. i had some pretty serious behavioral issues during my teen years due to some very heavy unresolved trauma. more than once, it led to similar situations and one time, it was as bad as this interaction. thankfully i’ve worked on myself extensively over years to where this is no longer a thing for me. i also appreciate charlie’s videos that calls this sort of shit out. because it deserves to be called out. situations like this can turn extremely volatile and even though it’s just a bunch of words, words can do some serious damage
As a woman i relate to this not bc i've acted like this, but how weird i've acted when i was emotionally unstable. For some reason i was convinced everyone was out to get me, and i was attention seeking as hell. I believe we all have periods in our lives where we might act like this, the hard thing is to have self awareness. I hope you're well❤
@@MassivePhalusexactly. Especially when you’re an adult. It’s ok with children because the differences aren’t very pronounced yet, but unless you’re THAT friend, as a man, you got no business going to brunch with the girls…
@@issy3295the issue is, we live in a society that actively wants to blanket our human needs, and gaslight us, distract us, ignore us, or attack us, for critically thinking about who and what we are. Honestly, many concepts of relationships have no business in our world. But people are scared to have conversations about traditions of the past like matchmaking arranged marriage, etc. This boy shouldn’t have felt the need to do this, but it’s understandable why he did has he’s maturing and has urges that as a human should be met. I’m sure someone probably a female gave him bad relationship advice like “be nice”, shower her in compliments, and be consistent in your attempts to woo her. Probably some creepy uncle told him yes means no, just because it might have worked for him in some back ally behind a McDonald’s in the 80s. He might also not be mentally there but this just reeks of bad advice combined with unmet urges. Probably has been feeling like this for awhile and he probably struggles with looking for ways to fix it. This is why I think more young men need good role models…
I used to take it personal when people would go off like this. After a while, you realize it really isn't about you. It's someone who desperately needs intervention, and access to social media/phones/etc taken away. You might actually be pleasant to be around, but they've taken the idealization of you and turned it into a solution to all their problems. That's why standing your ground, even kindly, tends to make the situation rapidly degrade into insults and resentment. It's like taking away a heron addict's picture collection of coastal birds from him.
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She has superhuman patience, kudos. Also, I hope with every fiber of my being that that guy sees this video and sees over 1 million people laughing at him, not with him.
That is insane I feel so sad for her it must be crazy to find out your close friend for a decade only pretended to be your friend so they could sleep with you
Whoever he is he needs to seek emotional help. He isn't going to be able to form genuine relationships with this kind of headspace, and from past stories I've read this usually turns violent without therapy
I had a friend for about a year and a half before he confessed his love for me. It is such a terrible situation to be in. I had to look back on all of our friendship, so many things I shared with him in private, and realise that it was mostly so he could tick our friendship meter up - hoping that I could grow to like him romantically. Looking back it was so so obvious but I'm chronically clueless. Realising he'd manipulated me away from our other friends so he could be my main point of contact was the reason I stopped talking to him. However, I'm still not sure how I could've come back from the betrayal it was to realise his side of the friendship was based on lies
If you ever feel bad about youself, you could be this guy so be grateful.
POCHINA IS ROTTEN IN THE TRASH HAHA LOLZ!
Only needed 7 minutes
Nah that could never be me
We also generally avoid having to deal with people this bad like her, so I'm also grateful for that.
On a related note, a lot of women push away "nice guys" specifically BECAUSE they are afraid of ending up in a situation like this. Being nice isn't about being stuck on another person; it's about being courteous, kind and above all, caring about them for THEIR sake (not yours). If you only care about someone because you want to be with them, you don't want a relationship; you want a pet.
I appreciate the fact she did not block him halfway and instead chose to create this masterpiece for us to indulge in. (Respectfully).
Not only good sloppy cringe and a happy ending - but it is like a PSA for people that don't know these dudes really exist. People need to know how to defend themselves against their cringejitsu and they can be dangerous to be along with.. bleh.
@@sillypinkewe Somehow this is the first time I've ever seen someone use "cringejitsu" and I'm definitely stealing it.
Honestly don't understand how she kept it going. It would have been instant block/delete/move on with my life lmao.
@@1234567895182because that was a friend for 10 years. She's gonna wanna understand why he is acting that way. That's just what a good friend would do.
@@1234567895182 Yeah but considering they have been friends for over a decade, might have not been that easy at first
She needs to show this conversation to a potential employer. She can handle literally any customer interaction with the amount of patience she has.
Just casually dropping this convo in her CV.
If I knew someone like this I'd be leaking these messages to his friends, family. Plaster that shit everywhere because this pos deserves for everyone in his life to know who he really is
Tbh I disagree. Don't get me wrong, the guy here was 100% an incel and acted like a child to say the absolute least. But also, she clearly egged him on and didn't try at all to "walk away" from the conversation.
@@JadaTheSupremeif that’s what you takeaway from this you’re just as incel r/niceguys as he is, she said way too many times they are only friends and that she has a boyfriend she was not egging him on at all you weirdo
patience for what? not blocking him? that's stupidity 💀💀💀
This happened to me with my best friend. We met in 7th grade and were pretty much inseparable. Never once did he give me the impression he was interested in me at all, though I had a little crush on him at the beginning. We were best friends for nearly 15 years and he came to be like a brother to me. Throughout that time, he dated other girls, talked to me about the girls he was interested in and I did the same with guys I dated. Never did he ever show jealousy or discouragement in me dating.
When I met my now husband, I knew he was the one. So naturally I told my best friend about him and what I was feeling. My "friend" totally lost it. He told me he had basically wasted 15 years of his life waiting for me to figure out that we were supposed to be together. Again, never once did he give me the impression he was interested in a relationship with me beyond friendship. No flirting, no innuendo. Nothing. Even the birthday cards and gifts we gave to each other were incredibly platonic. It came out of nowhere. He told me we were done and he never wanted to speak to me again.
I felt so betrayed. All these experiences which I had valued so much during my adolescence and formative years, were half-truths.
I gave him space and tried to make contact several weeks later to talk about what had happened. But he never responded. He has stayed true to his word and has never spoken to me or attempted to reach out to me to this day. It has been 10 years since we last spoke.
Christ! that's horrible! i'm so sorry you had to go through that. i can only imagine how horrible that feeling must've been for you. to think you know someone who you genuinely saw as a close friend, only for them to tear their masks off and show their true colors like that.... i hope you're doing okay now.
That is simultaneously cruel and pathetic.
@1WEareBUFO1 so isn't the people in power that perpetuate these social issues so this kinda thing keeps happening.
@@R4YZ3RSH44RP I'm intrigued by your comment. I admit I'm not quite sure I see the connection. Could you elaborate?
I'm with OP. What's the angle of your comment, Mr. Tin Cap?
How he held back this deluge of cringe for 7-9 years without any red flags almost impressed me.
No idea how that managed to last, unless he just got worse overtime.
There are a lot of dudes that hide their abusive behavior for years until they get married and trap a woman. If they can do that he can do it for 7 years.
You dont just hide red flags like that for 7 years, she def ignored some
To paraphrase something Charlie said in another video: "It's common to ignore red flags from someone you think is a friend."
@@niftyfishTbf, u can totally see red flags in a person, but still accept them as a good friend. A lot of people I’m friends with have personalities and habits that I would never want in a significant other, but that’s fine because they’re just friends 🤷🏻♂️. Adds to the spice of life.
She seems like a nice and patient person
Thank god she didn't fall for him during the 7 years they've been together
She might be really depressed over losing a friend of 7 years
But she dodged a bullet
Poor girl is probably gonna be traumatized from ever befriending men
dodged a damn missile 😭
Theres no such thing as male “friends” 😭 Why is she even entertaining this while in a relationship
coming from someone this has happened to, in all seriousness yes!!!! its so hard trying to make friends with men when this is the back of your mind.@@eddwarriior
@@platanito4494What? 💀
He calls the boyfriend ”beta cuck” while spending 7 years sending memes to a taken woman in hopes to get with her
Projection is strong in this one :D
But he “grew his pp for her” 💀💀💀💀💀😂
I knew a friend who was just like this and I don't understand it.
If it didn't work in like the first 3 months it's not going to work after 7 WHOLE YEARS.
@@leanflavoredpringles2353 I see two possible reasons as to why a person might behave like that; I mean the "long game", not the outburst afterwards. That's not to say I agree with any of them.
1. It might be like with gamers checking every lootable box and every wall for loot and secrets. It's not like anything will be there, "BUT IT COULD BE" and that's enough for some.
2. This isn't so much a reason, but more of a way to consider reality. If a person that lacks self-awareness believes something, nothing besides personal experience will make them reconsider that belief. Because, unintuitively, reasoning is often secondary to faith. If you believe sth, reasons will come to you. And they don't have to make sense, because you're already convinced.
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A lot of people have experienced unrequited love but the way you handle it speaks volumes of your character.
“What about penis” “EURIKA”
"You ungrateful clod" may be the greatest quote I've ever heard. I love when Charlie quotes scripture
Clod from Elemental? He strikes when you least expect 🔥🔥🔥🙏🙏🙏
dude sounds like peridot
Don't forfot the entire quote: "I grew this dick for you, you ungrateful clod"
I stg there are so many good quotes from every one of Charlie's videos that they're hard to even keep track of. thank you for this documentation 😹
@@rugdealer1729 I BELIEVE THERE ARE THINGS ON THIS PLANET WORTH PROTECTING, you... you... CLOD
I love how the dude is offended when she calls him an incel and then proceeds to unironically use incel terms. He sure showed her!
She didn't even said he was an incel. She said that he said some incel shit. Which was true. But turns out he was an incel
It's insane how long he went without showing his true colours. 9 years is a super long time
@@cumcumcum148the thing Charlie missed is that he said “I never wanted to show someone my dick because I hate them.” That’s the part that he left out.
@@bear9295Pretty sure this guy saw it as an “investment”, which is why, when he finally “made his move” and it massively bombed (in typical friend zone fashion), he went totally ape. This guy is the epitome of a narcissistic incel: his fragile ego can’t handle rejection so he’s been avoiding it for 9 years by tagging along in the friend zone, building up an obsession over someone who will never reciprocate. Personally, I can’t imagine such a thing but, logically analyzed, I’m pretty sure that’s what went down.
The funniest thing is he called himself a simp at the very beginning of the video, but he's offended by having been called an incel.
This woman was way too kind. But sometimes the kindest thing you can do for these people is stomp out that delusion
We need more people like her she handled it well
The unfortunate thing is that he probably won’t learn from this. He’ll just focus on her calling him an incel and think, “I’m not crazy, she’s just toxic.”
@@ChronicallyRabid no she handled it awfully...
@@darkmememagician1986bro she was way too nice. You're an incel yourself if you think otherwise
@@biancadesousa Ofcourse she was nice, they were friends for a decade.
Damn the message he sent saying “a seven year waste of my time” is so sad :/ I feel for that girl so much. Thinking you had a genuine cool guy friend for 10 years just to find out the only intentions he had of being around you for so long were to date you and eventually be sexual towards/with you. Some people really just aren’t shit
The sad reality of the opposite sex 'friendship'
Personally, i doubt this guy was always like this if they had been friends for that long. I'm only assuming obviously, but to me it seems like he fell into the "Alpha male red pill man don't take no as an answer" pipeline that became popular throughout 2021 and 2022.
@@christosdoesthings honestly you might be right, he may not have felt that way towards her the entire time but the fact that he chose to say that to her regardless is messed up and makes me sad for her :(
@@beepbop182 I noticed this detail now, notice how he says "after 2021 i felt like a better version of myself", 2021 was the year that the "alpha bro" thing became huge. My bet is that he was somehwat insecure but a nice person, but the "alpha male" scam artists pray on men like that. It's more depressing that way, really.
guys cant be friends with someone they are attracted too... a lot of dudes, just like him, play the long game hoping to win the girl over someday... and women fool themselves to think otherwise. dont believe me? ask any single "guy friend" if they want to have casual sex, see how they respond. They are called orbiters.
imagine being friends with someone for 10 years and then watching them suddenly become the worst person
certified bummer
Just means they were always like this, and just hid it.
More like understanding they were always this horrible.
@@andrewlikesmetal1095more likely they were on meds to control some kind of mania and they decided to stop taking them
Exactly .. how dare that toxic woman suddenly go all batsht crazy when he clearly grew his penis for HER!
The way she held her composure and so politely roasted him was awesome
Acutely if I was her I would have blocked him after he said please in algeria that one big red flag for both male and female at any subject
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Idk I think it’s fake. A lot of these kind of videos been popping up a lot for me recently. Each time the girl is super calm. I think it’s to come off as very calm and cooperative. Trying to come off as the good person for social media
@@triggeredlatina
Women tend to stay calm in these situations in general, especially if they're sad or hurt. They don't tend to get mad. Not to mention if they go off, a lot of women are afraid the guy might come after them for revenge. There's also a lot of voice messages/videos of guys talking like this lately, and it's because women are now taking a stand of publicly shaming men like this.
@@triggeredlatina ya but I seen ppl being thi big of simp they def excit
I may die never knowing what it's like to be loved by someone (non-family) but at least I'll never let myself become this guy.
I love you random citizen!
That's one step closer to finding love my dude
keep that same energy and you’ll find someone👍
I hope you find someone who makes you feel loved one day. You deserve it. Keep at it.
I have accepted this fate. But yeah, wtf is wrong with this guy. At least I won’t die a monster
One of your best qualities, is how humble you are. Many times you mention how immature you were during your younger days... And that is so relatable. It makes us feel that we can grow and improve. Thanks for that Charlie
Her response was epic. Good on her for calling him out.
She was inhumanly reasonable when she asked if he had second thoughts about what he sent after time passed- she gave him a golden opportunity to apologize and he still wiffed it.
@@amoliskimore like extra humane. She is a sweet person who still wanted to hold on to the chance this person was just having a mental breakdown. Someone who she actually considered a good friend which was mentioned a couple times even when being attacked with all that cringe.
Bless her heart for her patience but the ungrateful clod did not see that growing opportunity.
dude she kept his ass like a dog on a leash for 10 years. lil bro wasn't ok mentally since day 1
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@@amoliski That shit blew my mind, how would you even manage to type that shit out after he admitted to and did all that weird shit? That’s a skill man
It's a 17 min video, but it felt like a 3 hour experience that I shall never recover from
cringe has the power to slow down time
Me and you both
Dude time went fast for me🤣 I honestly cannot believe that this was not satire
This is exactly how I feel rn 😂
Bro i been watching only a half hour to see your comment point out it was only 17 minuites
As a Japanese who was born and raised in Japan, never knew shibumi means "authority without dominace"😂 The only shibumi I know is 渋味 which means bitter taste/astringency.
Haha could say he left a bitter taste in her mouth or lack of 😅
So, what he said is made up?
I’m just curious haha
@@venusterr8351 I don't know where he got the info but it makes no sense to us lol
@@rw9931I think he got it from 渋み, which is an aesthetic like wabi-sabi. You are more knowledgeable than me since you are Japanese but from my understanding it refers to unintentional beauty (Shibui objects appear to be simple overall, but they include subtle details, such as textures, that balance simplicity with complexity). Either way he stretched the definition wayyyy out and probably didn't know wtf he's talking about either
Honestly I've been in this situation so many times in the past. People joke about the 'friend zone' but never stop to think how shit and hurtful it is to be 'girlfriend zoned'. You think you're friends with someone and they just want to get in your pants.
yeah, some men be thinking with their penis, causing this. as a male i've seen friends chase girlfriends that ended up breaking their heart.
I feel this way too. I try to reject people gently but firmly and it's horrible when people refuse the rejection, especially when they hide their refusal and pursue friendship. I've never had a genuine male friend (they always end up pulling this bs) and have barely made any female friends either. It makes me feel like the only people who like me are the ones who want something from me. It's depressing and even though I'm not perfect, I would like to think that I could be a good friend to another person (and think I already am to the two women I'm friends with). I think these guys just don't get how painful it is to be seen as valuable only for romantic/sexual use, because they lack empathy and have never personally experienced this kind of pain. It's also scary because when they finally explode, it feels like it's only a matter of time before they try to rape/kidnap you and since they were your "friend" they know where you go and maybe even some people who know you. I'm still vigilantly watching a guy because he did this to my friend, and we'll be looking over our shoulders until she moves cities because of him
@@kinseylise8595 Maybe you will find more real friends if you get a hobby/job and talk to people who do the same stuff that you do. Consider joining a club or something and connecting to the people there.
THIS!!!! 'Girlfriend zoned' is a good term to call it
Rule of thumb, if some guy is constantly doing nice things for you, always there when you are down and doesnt at least occasionally talk about other girls he might be interested in, he's not your friend. He's trying to sleep with you. I'm in no way blaming you for this stuff, just saying these guys are easy to spot if you look. Very very few people are just awesome to you without some sort of agenda.
that woman is a saint for even taking the time to read his messages and keep responding to him, i would've ghosted that creep and cut him out of my life so fast
I have no idea how creeps like this come to be.
This is nice guy delusional behaviour.
That guy should be counting his blessings that she was respectful to him. Any other person would’ve ripped this guy apart emotionally, grabbed his IP/physical address and given it to other people so they could fuck with him, or any other nefarious shit that likely would end with him either in the shit or _dead._
I don’t think the chucklefuck incel realised how bad this could’ve gotten if he ended up pulling this shit on the wrong girl.
@lemonmelon1883 That's horrible take my man, this creep is quite a degenerate but there is always a slim chance that one day he will mature and loose all this toxic behaviour. Ghost him, block him and if he tries anything outside of msgs, get a restraining order. But wishing him death? That's way too extreme
@@r3dsnow757 this is not nice guy, this is a fucked up guy behaviour
she shouldn't have, though. "i would've ghosted that creep and cut him out of my life so fast" is exactly what she should've done from the very beginning.
Holy shit. She just lost a 7 year friendship, finding out she's been lied to the whole time. That could be downright heartbreaking. 7 years of shared experiences, now tainted. Can you even imagine?
Tis life
good riddance, i say
Tbh idk what’s worse, wasting 7 years on a failed long game attempt, or losing a 7 year friendship. Both equally shit for different reasons but it’d have to say the long game scenario is worse only cuz at least with the friend, you still could’ve dated people the last 7 years
Friend for 7 years? Holy, how did he not know that she were in relationship omg
@@marqgzso you're feeling sorry for someone deranged enough to CON A WOMAN FOR NEARLY A DECADE? That's straight up betrayal what she experienced, and he's pissed because he thinks she owes him some poon. I'd never wish this situation upon anyone, it's sick.
What I learned from this video:
1. Don’t just befriend a girl in the hope that they become your partner
2. Don’t be a twat when someone rejects you
3. Never ask to or just send explicit images to bribe someone to like you when they don’t
4. Listen to Charlie’s dating advice
5. Don’t spam memes
@@HC-qc5rp 6. Get real
@@NC-247 he was only friends with them so that he could ask her out
@@NC-247Don't be friends with someone *just* because you want to sleep with them. That's something entirely different.
but like no duh?
Long game is an understatement... he locked himself away in the Jumanji board waiting for her to play
“In the jungle you must wait until you find a suitable mate”
- Jumanji: Incel Edition or something idk
Fellas if you ever think you're bad with women, remember this guy exists
Its Patterrz 😲 Everybody Is Watching This Video No Wonder Its #2 On Trending
It can get worse. That's why felonies exist.
Yeah this helps me sleep at night
Just gave me a crazy fucking confidence boost bro
If you gotta compare yourself to something this cringe I feel that’s worse
this is so insane that there are people that are so detached with reality and any type of social interaction. he went fully scorched earth. this narration is so great. 10/10
It's not getting better unless it does
@SyakirinTheStickManyou okay bro or you having some kind of brain cell loss
@@elsafv no he didn't. Bot.
Speaking of bots this "story" he talks about seems ai generated.
@@ShadowSkyXI hope so. Actually feels horrible to think someone played the long game 7 years and got rejected 💀💀💀💀 like legit tragic shit like yeah bros a weirdo but goddamn that’s awful
Every time I think I'm too much of an antisocial weirdo, I see shit like this and my day gets a little brighter.
same
It makes me feel a bit worse cause I'm not as crazy as that bozo, but I can empathize with those feelings of desperation and needing validation.
Same
@@JasonJia11nothing wrong with empathy man
@@JasonJia11 There is nothing wrong with feeling desperate or wanting to be validated. It is when we let those feelings control and dominate us, especially to the detriment of others, that it becomes a problem. Now that is not a reason to just bottle it all up, it is important to communicate with those close to you and try to find a way to meet your own needs in a reasonable way that respects everyone's boundaries. Unlike the shithead featured today
The fact that she gave him the slightest second chance at the end and he still thinks he is on the right with this shit.
Can't believe she actually messaged him back after that mess to try to salvage anything from it and he still acted like that. He's lucky she ever had anything to do with him again.
Lady has the patience of a saint
Probably thought the guy was drunk, off his meds, etc. since he didn’t show signs of this behavior for 7 years
@@CalmClamFam maybe he could use some meds and get a hobby or two. There are infinite possibilities as far as things he could do with his time that are far more healthy than this.
I can't believe he kept responding, bro should've had a "this shit ain't worth it" moment and stopped responding instead of making himself look like an idiot.
@@andrewlikesmetal1095 Sounds like he may have found a hobby... going down Andrew Tate rabbit holes on TH-cam.
this honestly makes me feel better, sometimes i look back on embarrassing shit i did but goddamn at least I'm not this guy.
bro fumbled
Fr, sometimes I feel a bit to online, but then I see people like that
Frfr 😂
TRUU, i kinda glad with all depressed shit my dumb brain thought before. I never getting UNHINGED like this.
I feel bad for the man, because he 100% not got real life lesson yet. I feel bad for the women too, since she probably give him space enough to be close with her yet this massive dick head go full nuts on her.
Such a shame to be honest. what a circus.
not all heroes are heroes, sometimes they're villains lmao
she’s the most patient person ever and an amazing friend if she still was this calm and respectful. props to her😭
props to her for being like “i don’t know if your going through something” most people would have lost respect and patience a long time ago.
My first suspicion would be that he got drugged or something, but given that he had this behaviour over the course of multiple days, it seems he is just an incel
@@Albert-wk8ts yeah, sounds about right
I assume because she actually cared for him as a friend and didn't think a guy who she knew for almost a decade would act like that.
We all need a moist cr1tikal bedtime story to fall asleep
Bro u watched none of the video
thats not a word@officialcjdook
Bedtime? It’s 7:45
Edit: I know that different time zones exist, i was being silly goofy
It'll be hard to sleep knowing there's still obsessive simps like him spawning on the internet.
Indeed
I've seen a lot of these types of text conversations, and what's crazy to me is how similar they all are. It's almost uncanny, like the guy follows a script every time or they're all the same person. It generally goes like this: the guy likes the girl, but the girl doesn't feel the same way. She politely declines his advances and hopes to be friends. The guy gets a little more frantic and will plead for the girl to reconsider, at which point the girl will thoroughly explain the way she feels, usually calling out his odd behaviour... After this, they ALWAYS get aggressive and/or defensive. They'll insult the girl and act as if they never liked them to begin with. A really odd pattern of behaviour. I wonder why it so often repeats itself?
It's the matrix bro. It spawns these NPCs with the same dialogue choices.
It's like how kids in South Park started acting like caveman after noticing boobs the first time. Only reasonable explanation is that this is a primal reaction 😔
Spoiled kids who think they're "nice" because they are nerdy and not the stereotypical douchebag, so somehow they could never be a psychologically abusive idiot. Then they grow feeling so entitled to anything they want, they think women owe them poontang as a thank you for "being nice".
@@imge509 Ataaa!
It's because they're usually fake and people aren't creative enough to come up with something new
The fact that she was very respectful and considerate during this entire wacky conversation is insane. I wouldve blocked that dude almost immediately, but she was very thoughtful even after the most insane messages were sent
Yeah, guess the guy was pretty good at pretending to be her friend. She must have felt betrayed for it :/
He was probably playing as the emotional helpdesk friend for her for 7 years.
@@xPhantomxifywhy is that the assumption? it can't have just been a normal friendship, what mental gymnastics are you doing to make her out to be the bad guy ?
It's what leads me to believe it's fake. Any sane person would block after the third message.
Plus it's on Reddit, where literally everything is fake.
@@drunkenhobo8020 I don't know, it's something I did when I was younger.
Someone would be a creep, I would forgive them, still try to be friends, and then be surprised when they are creeps again.
Wow that woman is a saint. She gave him so many opportunities to salavage their friendship. Its a shame the guy had such a festering wound from being rejected underneath it all.
Was thinking the same thing. She gave him more chances than he seemed to deserve. She really cared for their friendship.
he definitely doesn't deserve her
i mean she probably couldn't believe what she was seeing........and wanted to make herself believe that this all some bs
I cannot believe how lenient and restrained she was throughout that entire interaction. She not only kept from insulting him back but even inquired about what was wrong with him and why he was acting the way he was. She probably just pities him.
Which I imagine feels way worse for him than if she’d gotten seriously angry - makes it better that she didn’t react as strongly as he’d probably wanted her to, positively or negatively. Being pitied is probably much more humiliating, which he deserved
I disagree, "what is wrong with you?" is often a loaded question. While it can be used sincerely, most people are actually saying "something is wrong with you, tell me what it is". The premise is "something is wrong with you" which will immediately put most people on the back foot - especially this guy who is clearly insecure.
Also, the wall of text that prompted his outburst and the "what is wrong with you?" question is full of angry finger-pointing and assumptions of his intention, calling his behavior "weird" and "going all incel" (not disagreeing, just pointing out that it's accusatory and isn't going to help calm him down). She even clearly states she is angry with the way he's acting. While she is clearly a victim of this guy's delusional rantings, she wasn't "lenient and restrained" in her response either - but I don't blame her, he was being deeply disrespectful. It'd make any reasonable person angry, let alone having a close friend of 7 years suddenly pulling this crap.
she called him an incel which is the same as calling her a ho, would you expect her to remain respectful after being called a ho?
@@anonanon8447 That’s not the same thing at all… quite the opposite actually
Yeah its the equal opposite insult. Women cant be incels so that wont work on them, men are shamed for lack of sex, women are shamed for too much sex.
@@shiny_cats2727
As a 27 year old who has never successfully got a date nor has any friends, this gives me confidence knowing I will never be this cringy.
Jeeessus get a prosty my guy
Never do this, and you’ll be fine my friend.
@@here2play760not all of us are sad enough to risk getting an STD for a single night with a woman
@@here2play760 sex before marriage is immoral and against scripture.
Dont listen to the first reply. Its perfectly fine to have never been in a relationship. I know our world is heavily sexualized, but dont let it bother you.
This guy is unbelievable. I PRAY I never come across someone like this who is able to keep up a convincing act of being a nice person for this long.
Right! Like being aggressive verbally and rude online doesn't necessarily mean you'll be aggressive in real life, but the thought that you know someone like this long enough that they know exactly where you live, your routine, maybe where you hide your spare key lol, where your family lives... it's horrifying. At least if you've just met someone and they're rude, you know you can either block them if it's online or run away if it's in person lol. But when they've been a close friend for a decade? Frightening.
anyone know where i can find the original
Theres not a chance in hell this guy was completely normal before all this. I feel like there had to be something, maybe he wears a fedora?
Good morrow traveler
im asuming youre talking about charlie. im only30 seconds in so im gonna go ahead and stop watching and boycott this evil man
8:07 that one scientist trying to come up with a name for the body part where piss comes out
help this was actually so funny 😭🙏
She handled this with such patience and decorum. Dude is so incredibly out of touch and crazy that I’m kind of glad he outed himself to her.
These seem like fake caricatures of people but then again I haven't dated in 5 years, so i know nothing.
@@Lord_of_the_Pies she seems reasonable. Dude definitely seems like he has some major issues he needs to work through.
@@AgitpropPsyop that's the caricatures in every one of these which makes me think they're fake..it's the calm, controlled woman and the irrational red pilled guy
@@Lord_of_the_Pies you know, I would normally agree with you if I didn’t know some of these irrational “sigma” dude’s myself. I think maybe they come across as fake because they’re just regurgitating the stuff they’ve heard online
Bro you just used the word decorum. You are likely on the same path this man was 😂
She handled that incredibly well. I wouldn't even know how to respond to a situation like that
I would have blocked him after the first set of responses tbh but I'm quite block happy
She handled it with more grace than I would have
you block and move on. if anyone ever asks you about it you say "i had to for my own peace of mind" and move tf on
No, she didn't. The best way to respond/handle this is to simply use the block button
She handled it well but really, she shouldn’t have tried to do the whole “we can still be friends.” It’s a trap that women fall into to make guys feel better but it does nothing but the opposite. She didn’t need time so that was a lie. She already knew she was with someone else and would never see this guy as more.
Charlie has covered a lot of weirdos, so I thought I was ready for anything. I thought him going on about how crazy this story was at the beginning was overkill. I thought “there’s no way it could be that bad and surprise the master of cringey texting stories himself”. Boy was I wrong. That “I grew this penis for you” caught me like a Mike Tyson left hook. What an absolutely insane weirdo.
Charlie makin fun of other men even tho he a manlet😂
Literally man, i completely lost it at that line 😂😂
@@theresurrection33what the fucks a manlet
@@theresurrection33he makes more money in a month than you'll ever see in a year
@@theresurrection33you’re the weirdo in those texts are u?😂
13:25 bro turned into peridot 💀💀💀
LOL
This cannot be reality
I literally spat my coffee out when he said "this is like betting 100% of your life saving on me getting taller" 😂😂😂
Same.. I almost spit my water😭😭
it's very unexpected and funny
😂😂
I read this right when he said it💀
I have spent my work shift listening to horror stories today, stories about drug use, cave exploring accidents, and man hunting animals… but this… why did this story shake me the most!?
It's really depressing in my opinion. That guy really needs to get some professional help.
May be the fact that they were friends for almost a decade. the tought of a old friend turning into something like this is indeed shocking
Same, I listened to like 2 weeks of MrBallen content and was just working as normal but this vid made me want to crawl into my skin
We living the same life watching horrific things casually
You need anti seizure meds.
This guy is such a sigma alpha chad that even Charlie can’t stop thinking about him. I can only imagine the despair this woman is going through to realize that she missed her once in a lifetime opportunity to call herself this guys girlfriend. Truly tragic, thoughts and prayers go out to her family
Us chads don’t accept this guy😂😭
@@chadwarner2797 "Us chads" 💀
@@chadwarner2797 nobody calls themselves Chads unless it's a name. It is a title given to someone for their inspiring masculine behavior.
@@chadwarner2797 aint no way bro just said that 💀
hop off tate's meat lmao
@@chadwarner2797y’all his name is literally chad 😭
When Charlie said he "consulted the dark side" for advice and ended up sending memes to his crush, it made me wonder if the dark side was just his friend group
This is exactly why we need the internet- to publicly address weirdo's like the guy in this story. Thank you charlie for giving us consistent good laughs
and this type of comment is probably why the guy has so many issues to begin with.
a delusional guy is failing miserably at communicating with a girl he likes, lets all make fun of him and laugh at him because we are so much better than him as a human beings
This is how school shooters develop
call his shit out, sure. The guy has to learn somehow.
do you however have any compassion for this severely lost individual?
it seems like you don't have any.
It seems like his flaws and mistakes make you feel better about yourself, which I think is a fucked up way to look at this interaction and implies that you some unprocessed negative emotions(just like this lost guy) that you cover up by making fun of other people. What a weak and pathetic way to deal with your problems, I hope you, and the guy in this video get help so you, and the guy in this video, can stop spreading so much negativity in the world.
Why the hate this guy needs support not hate
@@Tobbycat he does, but he also sounds pretty blind to me. he would need to open up his mind quite a lot so support actually enters his head
@@Tobbycat
He had support-her. She was his friend and she clearly supported him and had good times with him. He ruined it and he hurt her.
@@Tobbycat The comment you're responding to doesn't say anything about "hating" on the guy in question, he literally just said we need to be able to publicly address the problem. Because it IS a problem. We don't need to coddle the man babies who literally don't see women as equal human beings. We need to give them a wake up call.
reading those texts are so painful but having charlie talk about it makes it better
Honestly I couldn’t bring myself to read it so I am happy he did 💀😂
I shamefully admit that I've taken the cringe train to Betaville a time or two in my day, but damn, this dude straight up jumped out of the airplane without a parachute and splattered himself all over Main St.
Haha
man I can tell you watch a lot of charlies content to be saying all those things lmao
@edxander7169 Well, at least I was able to refrain from saying "dabloons" 😄
😂
That was very poetic of you
Holy heck! Hearing this whole meltdown, especially for someone like me who is terminally offline and who rarely stumbles across stories like this, really puts some of my own embarrassing moments into perspective!
There was a girl I went to school with, from 6th to 12th grade; we were band kids, and shared an inordinate number of classes throughout the years, and I developed a crush despite rarely speaking. However, being self-conscious, introverted, and a self-made depressive*, I never knew how to approach her, leading to me spending hours mulling over how to even start a conversation. I did manage to ask her out a few times, but each time I lost my nerve and bailed before she could answer. By senior year, I was getting therapy and improving my outlook, and I realized that I had no shot, that I had fumbled so many times, and she knew I had fumbled so many times without attempting to reciprocate, that any interest wasn't mutual. I was able to begin to at least build a bit of an acquaintanceship in the last few months before graduation, but I never had the chance to properly apologize for my awful, creepy, embarrassing behavior the prior six years, and while I know she still lives in town as my friends have seen her around, I haven't run into her in the past two years I've been back from college either, so the embarrassment and pure cringe of the memories still weigh on me.
But I'm certainly glad that in all the time I was being wishy washy, I never turned into the kind of person the guy in the story was! I'll gladly be remembered as that weird quiet kid who could barely stammer a whole sentence, rather than the one who became a raging A-hole; I'll certainly sleep better at night!
*(long story short, in middle school, I thought being depressed was "cool", so I began deliberately hating myself and projecting my self-loathing onto others until I couldn't stop and had destroyed my own sense of self-worth. I know, how brilliant of me lol)
i'm glad you're doing better now, bro. always take care of yourself
Honestly never ceases to amaze me, just how quickly these conversations spiral out of control for people that act like this.
bro has never heard of discord
Most of these people were already one step away from the edge before they tried their move
I think it's insane how this case always reminds me that there's people out there who just treats their crushes as prizes to win, the moment they being told "no" is the moment they immediately get so dependent over this person, it's always so creepy to see it.
Right? I mean, yeah, rejection sucks, and I don't think it's abnormal to feel a little shitty after it, especially if it's someone you really cared about. But being friends with someone for a major amount of time like that, only with the hope of fucking them, and getting angry like this after being told "thanks, but no thanks" is absolutely absurd.
@@ExperiMentalDonright, if he was so interested in her the moment he befriended her, I think it would've better if he just didn't waste her time for 7 YEARS and just would've asked her out earlier (which I still think she would've still rejected him) and see how it goes, and that let alone would've been better than befriending someone this long just to wait if they agree to fuck you.
@@ExperiMentalDon that's why you should never be friends with someone that you want to bang.
I couldn't agree more. Who knows how far they'd go if that was their goal
@@ExperiMentalDon I imagine a certain proportion of that is people who didn't stat but drifted into that circle.
Unironically I can see why he was hung up on her. She honestly handled the situation so well. Seemed like a mature person with a good head on her shoulders. She even tried to give him multiple ways out but the guy was determined to end their friendship! Really unfortunate for a long friendship to end in this manner. What a crazy story!
Girls always trying to keep these guys around as "friends" while clearly they just try to get with them the whole time
Red flag moment dude
sus
If only it had been an actual long friendship instead of a long ill-intentioned bait and switch. Poor girl.
@@gkky_well we don’t know that he planned this from the start. I mean he seems insane so probably did, but we don’t know.
17:24 is just so wonderful to hear. I've been in her shoes and all everyone ever talk abt is how the guy is a shithead, but not sure I've ever heard someone (who isn't in the same situation) actually express these feelings or saying these words. Thank you
I can’t imagine the trust issues she must have now. Bless her heart.
I am sure she's fine.
@@Misanthropolisi’m sure you’re actually not sure she’s fine
@@MisanthropolisI don’t know many people who would be fine after such a horrendous breakdown of what they though was a 7 year friendship, in which they received a bunch of abuse.
this is why i don’t have opposite gender friends. me and my bf steer clear of this stuff loo
word@@MomeGnome
Im literally in bed right now, so its nice that Charlie could tell a bedtime story before he tucks me in.
Sleep tight king
@@Enaccul Thank you, good sir. Have a wonderful night.
@@p-__gay
@@elsafvbot
dont let the bed bugs bite!!!
She even gave him clear outs he could have taken had he any ounce of remorse or shame in what he's done and said. Despite hours or days having gone by, he plows through the caution tape and signs like 'bridge out ahead'' and ''dead end'' and he said f*ck it, and proceeded to throttle the gas peddle to the floor finalizing the end of any salvageable relationship. Not that any woman in their right mind would want to salvage that. What a creep.
That woman had a heart of gold
3:30: 1st chance to save the 9 year friendship.
5:30: 2nd chance. IF A WOMAN TELLS YOU SHE NEEDS TIME, YOU GIVE IT TO HER.
6:47: 3rd chance.If the answer is still not no after all that, she really doesn't want to end things.
7:20: 4th chance to take it back.
9:16. 5th chance. She's in a Relationship and still texts you. You can STILL apologize.
11:45: 6th chance. she's STILL texting you. You can apologize and take this back.
14:08: 7th chance. You can say it's satire OR you had a meltdown and apologize. She's STILL texting you.
14:40: 8th chance.
@@Aussie50InspiredDavidZ all wrong for a single reason, the moment the guy went open about it, there was no more roo,m for friendship, and why would he want to be friends anymore aniway? would probably be even more fkd up
@@mauroleon2 you're probably right about the guy. But, the girl genuinely gave him so many chances. A chance to apologize and change the way he sees her. He could have reflected on things and distanced himself away from her,for awhile, to value the experiences they had as friends instead of viewing her as someone he needs to bang.
@@Aussie50InspiredDavidZ most people see this relationship like a year old or something if that was the case i think she would've cut it with him immediately and ghosted him but you need to remember its a 7 year old friendship i think it'll take much longer than that for it to end that's why she was still texting him because she remembers him as someone else
As a guy who came dangerously close to being the guy in this situation, the number one thing to do is just stop. Take a step away from the situation. If the first tentative ask is a hard no and you really considered her a friend at one time, just stop. Back off, for your sake and hers.
😂
really brave of you to say that, nice advice
That dude blew a golden opportunity to have the perfect wingwoman in the dating scene. His only real chance at getting a GF and he decides to go full "nice guy" in hopes that she would fall for him.
My current fiancee and I ended up together due to a college friend rejecting me. Instead of things becoming awkward, said friend and I had a long discussion to clear everything up so there weren't any misplaced emotions, and about a year later she was the primary instigator for me meeting someone who I'm so grateful for.
Guys, don't piss away your allies because of a rejection.
Dude i have the exact same story that's insane!
Woman can be amazing ally’s. Can’t bone them? No worries dude , bone their friends instead.
Are women really not human to you 🥲 if we reject y’all’s sexual advancements, y’all gonna keep us as friends in hopes we introduce more girls to y’all? 💀
@@smileymoe9866not what he meant but I get what you’re saying, a lot of guys really do look at women that way and that’s just from the standpoint of privilege
I think a lot of it stems down to the fact that it seems like guys have more difficulty finding romantic partners than women do. Men have the burden of being expected to pursue and start relationships, men are expected to have much more of an active role, they are expected to be breadwinners and financially support women, etc. That's a societal thing and it's unfortunate but it's how things go.
14:50 The hat man is a phenomenon that occurs when you trip off of normal every day drugs, most often with benadryl. By saying "you're seeing the hat man", the implication is that he thinks she's "tripping", which he's using as slang for "crazy." So basically it's just a silly insult really.
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As someone who’s experienced what this girl had, it hurt a lot. It happened a few times when I was in high school and it sucked. It gave me really bad insecurity on my value as a friend and whether my other friendships were real.
Same here, It's happened more than once. Its so strange how some people don't see us as individuals. But hey there are plenty of men, not chronically online, who will value your friendship.
Relationship with a single man is 99% is not real, trust me...
ngl this really hurt me because i was just thinking from the girls perspective it was just bad. like its bad enough that random guys wanna be friends with her so they can sleep with her but a 7 yr old friendship was that, it just fucks with you mind. and i empathize with you and any girl that experiences this....this is just very sad..
same. dudes like this will act like rejection is the most painful experience a person can go through. & yeah rejection can hurt, but what also really hurts is finding out someone you thought was a friend was only tolerating you bc he wanted to fuck you the whole time. hell, i'd argue that friendship breakups can be more painful than romantic ones.
@@lynn4840
Yup I’m a dude so it didn’t happen to me until later in life but it really sucked crazy how there’s just some straight sleeper agents out there
OH MY GOD!! I had this happen to me as well, a friend for almost 6 years did this to me, but it was in person/landline as this was before cell phones, (yes I'm old lol), and it does feel VERY much like a betrayal!! I feel so bad for her.
Jesus christ the patience this woman has is fucking UNBELIEVABLE
It’s a bit easier to have patience when you’ve known someone for almost a decade to be fair
Yeah, I think she was expecting this to be a joke. Like how could they be friends for almost a decade?
I really bad for her because honestly that was probably the awkward scenario could you have with someone you considered her friend, she clearly didn't wanted to hurt him but just wanted to let him know what she genuinely felt, sucks that her friend was a creep.
she clearly cares about him a lot... that guy is a complete idiot for just destroying a close friendship like that
I think she knew the whole time, she said he used to talk bad about any guy she dated. Some people just ignore red flag then act surprised then shit hits the fan.
For her to go back after all the awful shit he said and still check to see if he was serious or just lashing out in order to try to salvage the friendship, that is incredibly admirable.
In order for HER to try to salvage the friendship. Typo.
Not really. She humored that situation far too long and should have blocked and moved on. He already made it weird and she not only has a bf but one she’s in a serious relationship, all according to her. There is no salvaging once he made his intentions clear. That would be disrespectful to her bf. Keeping a friend around that wants to sleep with her but whatever. Many girls do that anyways. SMH
@@triggeredlatinaI was going to say this, I would’ve blocked him the second he made advances.
Thats why I no longer have male-straight friends anymore. My last male friend tried to force himself on me when we were drunk. He apologised but I could no longer see him as a safe person to be around.
I'm sorry to hear that someone did that to you and that you don't feel safe but not being able to have even platonic relationships with that many people is kinda not great, I hope that things get better for you eventually@@Cumulusly
@@triggeredlatina
Again, you're spamming this and blaming her for being patient and careful, but you have to stop for a second and think how hard it must've been for her to do that after a 7 year old friendship and how dangerous that could've gone, if she blocked him and he would've turned more angry, because they know eachother in real life. Which would also make the blocking useless lmao.
"Many girls do that anyway smh" Ah yes, latina culture where we find a way to make the woman the bad guy and blame them for being too careful lol.
Your name checks out so bad it hurts.
I find it actually tragic how there are so many men out there who, instead of actively and playfully flirting and letting a girl know his intentions, just decide to wait around for YEARS to actually come out of NOWHERE and confess to a love like it's some sort of Disney movie
Exactly. Not only are you wasting this girl’s time by pretending you’re going to be her friend and nothing more, but you’re wasting your own time chasing this crazy fantasy of her falling in love with you.
Dudes need to do themselves a favor and only keep girl friends around when they actually see them as a just a friend. And pursue a girl and make your intentions clear from the start if you’re interested. If she rejects you, take the L. More time wouldn’t fix the fact that she does not like you romantically/sexually.
@@sophie-mp7hsin general yeah, the last chick i was talking to was adamant wed remain friends, and id respect that besides a little flirting once in a while that would stop once she shut it down again, but damn did she get jealous when i got with my current girlfriend, i dont actually talk to her too much anymore. Kinda Sucks, she was dope to kick it and drink with
Or maybe just establish boundaries whenever you’re trying to become close to ppl. A lot of guys don’t treat their guy friends like they do their female friends bc we do different things. So whenever they do certain things it doesn’t feel like something “friends” would do. But to the other party it’s just “friendly”. The longer it goes on unchecked. The stronger the emotions feel until eventually it explodes.
50% of males will not reproduce. The internet has allowed them to group up.
We're in for a ride.
@@MichaelAllen-rr2cnyou just gotta read the chick. My coworker was adamant we would never fuck, but we also fucked like 3 hours later… fucking and wanting to date is a little different though
17:03 based green day reference
I too once confessed/and got rejected by a friend before, understanding the feeling wasn't mutual, I accepted that and moved on. And I'm so fucking glad I did, to know I could've been this guy is criminal enough
Same.
The days past I choose to ignore. I sent her poems that sounded suicidal, so she thought I was threatening my life or something. I want dementia.
Eventually every experience becomes a burning memory
Same here
It's so easy when you're young to believe that just being around a girl and being nice will 'pay off'. I kind of hovered near a girl for a while in college, and mercifully I never did anything cringe, but it was still gross of me to not be open and honest about wanting a relationship early on.
One thing I've always admired about Charlie is that he will actually admit to his millions of followers on a public video that he's speaking from personal experience on why he knows not to do something incredibly embarrassing for most people. People online criticize others like in this video, but very few say they used to be guilty of it too and are more sort of hoping other people won't repeat the same mistakes.
I can thankfully say I have never done anything like that. If a girl rejected me when I was a teen I would get sad and then move on. Then I realized in my early 20s it is their loss(or not), and stopped caring about rejection at all.
That's what I really like about him. I'll admit I used to be cringe, that's why I can say I know better and am also in awe of people who don't grow out of it cause eventually I was like bruh to myself
@@ellecimz6618 I think it takes a lot of emotional maturity to face one's own shortcomings with honesty.
@@HarryBalzak yeah there's like 7 billion people, so it's good that you just move on. lol
Holy shit that was a tough read. I legitimately asked out a girl a couple weeks ago and after 3 days of thinking she decided no. I’m so glad I didn’t do anything like this guy.
You shouldn’t view rejection as trying to win them over, you need to see it as “this isn’t the right person for me.” We both were super good friends and now that she’s rejected me it’s been great cause the feelings stopped. Literally nothing has changed in my life despite the fact and doing something like this guy is my absolute nightmare.
Exactly. There are billions of eligible partners for you.
Just shrug it off and move along. No biggie.
This sounds so healthy, I wish everyone was as thoughtful as you.
Just wanted to say that this is awesome, and I hope you're doing well. As a woman, I appreciate people like you :)
Unfortunately, rejection can also mean u just weren’t good enough. U need to take that upon yourself and improve yourself
@@dosomestuff1949 This is amazingly stupid advice lol
The phrase "No, kind of a gamble" 7:24 genuinely made me gag and want to peel off my skin
I’m so amazed at the sheer amount of patience and resilience that girl has! Like all of the abuse that weirdo verbally throws at her and she still wanted to be friends and maybe forgive him!
That's called being a pushover.
@@MrProthallnot really. Think about it, he was her friend for almost a decade before this. That’s a decade of history and memories together as friends, I would certainly try and salvage whatever was left after an interaction like this. I’ve had something like this happen to me and I was in denial that it was even happening for like a good full day. loosing a good friend bc they decided to be an ass one day is a really hard thing to accept
yes, its really cool that women are conditioned to be polite no matter how disrespectful the other person is
@@MrProthall She ripped him a new one multiple times. Nothing about this shows a pushover. It shows someone who has ACTUAL compassion and empathy and gave the guy a chance to be a real human being with her, as a friend she had for a decade. What a moronic comment.
He will probably never get over this stuff without him realizing that he needs professional help himself, it's sad that some people get this delusional and crazy.
Props to her. A lot of people would've gone insane talking to a goober like this
Megamind tried to warn us about this kind of "nice guy" culture. It just sucks that it's well-deserved love came so late when people like Hal were already well established by established, and the result is this
Literally the first thing I thought about when I saw this situation was Tighten 💀💀
MEGAMIND LMAO PLEASE EXPLAIN I HAVENT WATCHED IT IN SO LOMGNG
How megamind?
@@GodsDemonSatansAngelThe guy Jonah Hill played
@@zanelemleyI haven’t watched it in a bit either but I generally remember the story but yeah just in case I’m wrong about some details this is why. In the movie, there’s this guy named Hal who’s “friends” with a girl named Roxanne. Secretly he has a stalker like obsession with her and believes he is the most perfect and nicest guy she could ever have. Multiple times she tries to be alone with her while she says she’s not comfortable with that as she can sense there’s some romantic tension that she doesn’t want. Sometime after, Hal gets superpowers and tries to use it to impress Roxanne but after finding out she’s not impressed and that she also likes Megamind, Hal completely lashes out in an uncle type way. I remember watching the movie in theaters and thinking it’s a cool parody of people who say “nice guys finish last”, but nowadays it’s almost scary how accurate this probably is to a lot of degenerates out there. Some of his dialogue is eerily similar to what I’ve heard a lot of the Andrew Tate fanboys say. Again my details are probably a bit off or not specific enough but definitely rewatch the movie. Opens your eyes on how ahead of its time it was.
From what I understand "Shibumi" the practice of finding meaning in a paradoxical statement (for example: "Elegant simplicity. Effortless effectiveness. Understated excellence. Beautiful imperfection.")
I'll admit, I was almost like this guy in the past, but I don't think I ever had a melt down like this. I feel extremely embarrassed. Watching all of this hits too close to home. I can't really do much else other than taking it as a lesson and become a better person.
Yeah as a teen and even with my previous ex’s i blew up a fuckton.
Ego and narcissism is a helluva trip.
Onwards and upwards, emotional maturity comes with time and perseverance.
Use what you’ve learnt to forge a better you.
im a girl, but i definitely feel embarrassed because i used to be sort of like this guy when it comes to obsessiveness and not being able to control my emotions.
I was almost similar before, in the way I was begging at first. Then I grew the fuck up and realized how that mindset is putrid. Glad I will never be that way again
Lot of teens have been this way. I have been too, tho it was all long distance, with no consequences.
I think that at end of the day, the total net effect has been positive after growing out of it
Every man was
A sad lonely guy broken by a heartless woman. Blame the woman always !!
And the scary thing is just how obsessive these kinds of people are. It is genuinely frightening when you’ve either been in or known someone in a situation similar to this.
And these people don't even see their crushes as actual people just possessions.
Thank you for the content Charlie. 10/10 bedtime story
Simp!!!!
Same
good job giving money to a millionaire
@@subarashiikyloxworth it ngl 💯
Why people give money to a millionaire who won’t even notice this is mind blowing
At 13:22 there wasn't a force strong enough to contain my laughter and tears
I'm glad nothing serious happened, holy shit. And that this woman called him out instead of second-guessing herself like I've seen so many times.
yeah…. almost seems like he would’ve assaulted her given the right circumstances
@@oxyroidExactly. This situation has played out too many times.
As emotionally broken down as I am I pride myself in knowing I will never be like this
me too man.
u ok?
imma check up on you every month or so
What ever emotional strife you are going through know that there is always an end tot he tunnel and ultimately you will reach it humanity has gone through strife for centuries and well humanity overcame it buddy and you will if there is any people bringing you down well fuck the noise buddy, i heard this in a meme once but i love it tbh "tough times never last only tough people do" keep your head up.
True. Wrote similar texts when i was like 15. I look back at that in shame, and promised myself i never do that again (which i didnt). And now i dont even bother anymore, i dont want to drag people into my misery so i just stay alone. Its the best for everyone.
Mad respect to her for actually trying to save the friendship at the start and very quickly realising the dude has gone off the rails completely.
Why would she try to salvage it though? She knew he wanted a se*ual relationship the whole time and kept stringing him along. And don't give me that crap that 'she didn't know...how could she know?'. Trust me, everybody knows when someone is interested in them. They either choose to ignore it or play like it'll maybe happen some day. If a woman truly cared about a man she would understand that romantic feelings will never allow friendship and immediately cut it off.
@@disenfranchised2.073 agree with you. Most girls who have a male friend know pretty well they are interested in more but keep being around them thinking that it can stay a friend relationship because she like the attention nonetheless. When this happen some men think they have a chance because the woman is giving him them attention as if it could maybe happen. Imagine spending 7 years of your life waiting for someone that give constant mixed signals just to turn you off when you are able to take your shot.
Obviously it never end well because the guy feel like he bet on the wrong number the whole time and wished to not have spent this much time on someone who took advantage of his attention knowing 100% what was at stake.
@@Axthenon "took advantage of his attention" dude.. you can't be serious lol
@@disenfranchised2.073 Well what did you want her to do? they were close friends for literally 7 years, would she just tell him to stop being friends after he confessed his feelings? she legit considers him as a good friend, to shun him out of her life just because he had feelings for her? what is wrong with you lol
@@theoriginalman9426no she said just said she needed time to think then a week later said she has a boyfriend when you try to defend the indefensible
At 9:29 , I really expected Charlie to read “you’re my brother” 😂
seeing charlie’s smile sparked a gleam in my eye and a slight palpitation of the heart. my grandmother was watching as well and now she can walk again. my goodness, may charlie inspire millions once more
No offence but did you try to make your username “skibiddy toilet” but then had a stroke?
@@harveyanimations8974 bro its "skibidi toilet" not "skibiddy"
@@awjd123 I know. I had a stroke as well
@@harveyanimations8974😂😂😂😂
its actually skobiter toilet, @@awjd123 .
_Shibumi_ actually refers to a Japanese standard of eloquence and beauty that is summarized as "simple". Two aspects of this are being unobtrusive and silent. She is _shibumi_ because she is trying to respond to him as little as possible and is therefore unobtrusive and silent. He is of course the exact opposite, like a fucking red and blue oni
I love how the cringe just keeps going in the comments
Hahaha summarized as "simp" u mean
She should’ve stopped replying long ago tbh
Tokyo Godfathers is the best movie ever made and I love that it has a little part with the story of the red and blue oni
Whatever you say weeb
12:57 killed me. I love how the further Charlie gets into one piece, the more references he uses.
fr i loved that rob lucci reference
That shit had me fucking dead mate 😂
“More time spent undercover than rob lucci and the gang” 😂😂😂
I shit myself laughing when he said that
Dude hell yeah, made me smile
"R/Nice guys these nuts" is honestly my favorite piece of this 😭
Sawcon these r/NiceGuys
I got chills when Charlie said “we’re entering the climax” like how could it get any worse
First part of this sentence taken out of context is crazy
I really appreciate videos like these because it calls out behavior that I've exhibited in the past. Never as insane but disappointingly similar, and it makes me reflect on a lot of shit I had wrong in my head in certain situations. Emotions are incredibly dangerous in cases like these and need days or weeks to get sorted out, or something will get said or something will happen that will spin a situation out of control fast and cause irreparable damage
Yeah man typing literally anything while feeling strong emotions is a big mistake. I also think a "1 on 1 friendship" between a man and a woman is pretty much impossible. Every dude I've ever known with female friends was either gay or an incel like the guy in this vid...
same with me. i had some pretty serious behavioral issues during my teen years due to some very heavy unresolved trauma. more than once, it led to similar situations and one time, it was as bad as this interaction. thankfully i’ve worked on myself extensively over years to where this is no longer a thing for me. i also appreciate charlie’s videos that calls this sort of shit out. because it deserves to be called out. situations like this can turn extremely volatile and even though it’s just a bunch of words, words can do some serious damage
As a woman i relate to this not bc i've acted like this, but how weird i've acted when i was emotionally unstable. For some reason i was convinced everyone was out to get me, and i was attention seeking as hell. I believe we all have periods in our lives where we might act like this, the hard thing is to have self awareness. I hope you're well❤
@@MassivePhalusexactly. Especially when you’re an adult. It’s ok with children because the differences aren’t very pronounced yet, but unless you’re THAT friend, as a man, you got no business going to brunch with the girls…
@@issy3295the issue is, we live in a society that actively wants to blanket our human needs, and gaslight us, distract us, ignore us, or attack us, for critically thinking about who and what we are. Honestly, many concepts of relationships have no business in our world. But people are scared to have conversations about traditions of the past like matchmaking arranged marriage, etc. This boy shouldn’t have felt the need to do this, but it’s understandable why he did has he’s maturing and has urges that as a human should be met. I’m sure someone probably a female gave him bad relationship advice like “be nice”, shower her in compliments, and be consistent in your attempts to woo her. Probably some creepy uncle told him yes means no, just because it might have worked for him in some back ally behind a McDonald’s in the 80s. He might also not be mentally there but this just reeks of bad advice combined with unmet urges. Probably has been feeling like this for awhile and he probably struggles with looking for ways to fix it. This is why I think more young men need good role models…
I used to take it personal when people would go off like this. After a while, you realize it really isn't about you. It's someone who desperately needs intervention, and access to social media/phones/etc taken away. You might actually be pleasant to be around, but they've taken the idealization of you and turned it into a solution to all their problems. That's why standing your ground, even kindly, tends to make the situation rapidly degrade into insults and resentment. It's like taking away a heron addict's picture collection of coastal birds from him.
Heron addict. Lol
Poetic. Facts. But also poetic
I thought you made a typo and also that I was unaware how into birds the heroin community is, but then I realized you're hilarious
3:48 I honestly can't believe how bad he fumbled there
I screamed out loud
charlie's voice gives me the best tingles and triggers. Beautiful ASMR like always my king
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you 're a bot bro
@@Mandate_of_Heavenokay bud
His voice would be great in another “shitty product” review.
How are there already bots💀
She has superhuman patience, kudos. Also, I hope with every fiber of my being that that guy sees this video and sees over 1 million people laughing at him, not with him.
I would’ve block him from the git go
@@user-cf6fo6bj1ubut then how are you gonna get that precious Internet clout?
@@user-cf6fo6bj1u Fr this whole convo should have never happened
@@user-cf6fo6bj1u Easy to say, but don't forget they've known each other for 7 years. This isn't some random Tinder guy.
I am sure 10 years of friendship meant something to her. Clearly not the dude who played the long con.
That is insane I feel so sad for her it must be crazy to find out your close friend for a decade only pretended to be your friend so they could sleep with you
14:49 the hat man is a common halucination from benadryl (just a fun drug fact for anyone seeing this)
I genuinely hope he doesn’t harm her or others over this
Me too. Dudes like this seem to get violent over rejection.
Whoever he is he needs to seek emotional help. He isn't going to be able to form genuine relationships with this kind of headspace, and from past stories I've read this usually turns violent without therapy
Why would he? Obviously she missed her shot and hes already moved on so if anything she might do something to him!
@@titusdangelo3001are u being sarcastic? Lol
@@Golden12500Embarrassing the guy by posting their texts to Reddit also doesn't help. It's like she's challenging him to do something
13:43 it’s why he waited 7 years. He was growing it for that long
Even with charlie guiding us thru the messages, I still couldn't help but cringe in my seat
The cringe is so dense it's creating a fkin singularity of cringe that even the most sturdy of us can't help but to succumb.
You need to burn that chair
@@plokijum funnily enough my brother bought me a brand new one a few days ago I haven’t picked up yet lmao
I had to pause the video 7 times
I had a friend for about a year and a half before he confessed his love for me.
It is such a terrible situation to be in. I had to look back on all of our friendship, so many things I shared with him in private, and realise that it was mostly so he could tick our friendship meter up - hoping that I could grow to like him romantically. Looking back it was so so obvious but I'm chronically clueless.
Realising he'd manipulated me away from our other friends so he could be my main point of contact was the reason I stopped talking to him. However, I'm still not sure how I could've come back from the betrayal it was to realise his side of the friendship was based on lies