I actually really like the chemical thrower on survivor difficulty. Electric Gel is a permanent stunlock as long as you have the ammo for it, even against Big Daddies.
I like electric buck with the shotgun and the chemical flamethrower, as said. Electric shotgun stunlocks, I use electro bolt 3 to stun and get a chance to reload to EXPLOSIVE BUCK AFTER, and hes pretty much dead after that. Btw I'm talking about fighting big daddy.
The Grenade launcher is an absolute powerhouse of a weapon, but the TRUE best is the research camera. I mean sure it does no damage but it means the OP shotgun and Grenade launcher are more OP.
Chemical thrower + electric gel is a big daddy killer even on survivor. All weapons can be deadly used right,it's the beauty of bioshock that there are so many builds and play styles.
Haha, not dumb. Like I said there's so many ways to play. When I first played I never ran a wrench build but after using it it's as powerful as any weapon plus you end up with more cash than you can spend. Probably why I take a trip to rapture at least once a year.
Two quick side-notes and I apologize for them. If I sound a bit tired in this video, I was, so I'm sorry about that. And secondly, I won't be able to respond fully to comments until later tonight, as I won't be home until around 10:30 PM Central Standard Time. I'm so sorry for that.
I know that's why I use wrench jockey 2 and one as well as stunning the splicers and I'm hitting them with my wrench to give extra damage Play the game and let me tell you not even a LEADhead splicer Survive that even if it wasn't shocked The wrench is pretty much an over power weapon with the right tools
I completely agree with your top three upgraded weapons. The shotgun is my go to. It has this power to it that you can feel with each shot! So much fun! I love it in BioShock 2 as well - with the Tesla upgrade, it is so electrifying! 😏👌🏻
Even in normal difficulty it gets power crept really quickly. By the end of the game it's not even worth it to use regular bullets. Only useful with anti personel rounds and even then I think it still takes a couple headshots
Replaying Bioshock currently, playing survival difficulty on the remastered version. Gotta say the machine gun is decent, with both upgrades it's good. Only problem is there's never enough anti-personal rounds. After fully researching all enemies it takes them down pretty quick (minus B-daddies)
Something you can do with the Crossbow and Grenade Launcher to absolute murder Big Daddies is animation cancel them by shooting and alternating between them one at a time. It cancel the delay between shots for both and stacks insane damage.
Second this. I’ve beaten survivor difficulty many times and the crossbow is always my first choice weapon because of animation canceling. The damage is insane and headshots aren’t hard to hit for basic splicers and it tears through Big Daddy’s
This game scared the shit out of me at the beginning. The same feeling I got from the original Resident Evil from Playstation One. I literally scope out every hallway & every room. I look before I leap. There is some jump scares they programmed into the game you can't avoid. If they want you to be scared they scare you. Great game. Just starting out.
I felt the exact same way, I restarted it after beating Atomic Heart and now it's not as scary as it was at first but now I can actually enjoy it without want to flinch at everything 😂
In hard difficult: 1 - crossbow (very satisfying do hs) 2 chemical tower (more powerful than plasmids) Combo crossbow + ice is insane! Worst: pistol and machine gun
Chemical Thrower is S tier vs Big Daddy and Frank Fontaine: just use electric gel and stun lock them while doing massive damages. Vs everything else it's B tier.
Once I got the cross bow it was all I used. Since there was no sniper which the type of gun I use in every game the cross how was a nice addition and I used it as my primary weapon for the rest of the game. Headshots for days.
A headshot to any human enemy with the crossbow is always an instant kill, and I personally put crossbow above machinegun even tho if you feather the tommy it's basically a lot more efficient and versatile, see with the crossbow you can switch back to plasmid and back to crossbow to skip the pump essentially making it near semi auto, I use this paired with the incendiary bolts to melt them tin cans....
When i was fighting Fontaine, i used the chemical throwers electric gel and when he is not electric-immune, it absolutely obliterated Fontaine. So for higher health bosses and big daddies, that would be my go to.
the crossbow and shotgun are the best, the crossbow almost or one shots most enemys (head shot) and the shotgun with eletric plasmid (or bees) is soo useful
Chem Thrower with consumption upgrade + Crossbow with damage and bolt saving upgrade are my key weapons.. Chem thrower freeze + xbow headshot = guaranteed kill but no loot Chem thrower electric + xbow headshot = guaranteed kill but u need to be faster electric gel + trap bolt + electric flesh 1 and 2 = HUGE DAMAGE to big daddies and immunity to trap bolts and electric damage Incendiary bolts + human inferno 1 and 2 tonics = HUGE Damage to anything.. Also saves me valuable plasmid slots (no need for electro bolt, incinerate and winter blast). BTW You can open electric locks, disable machinery and melt blocking ice with the chem thrower. Also try lighting bottles of booze with the chem thrower and turn them to molotovs to be tossed with telekinesis :)
For me, I would personally order it as: A Tier: Grenade Launcher damage, shotgun increased damage, shotgun semi auto, pistol damage, machine gun damage. All of these directly increase your effectiveness, no matter how many or few enemies you're fighting. B Tier: Pistol 24 round mag, crossbow damage, grenade launcher immunity, chemical thrower range. These are situationally useful. C Tier: Machine gun recoil reduction, chemical thrower ammo consumption, crossbow break chance. Machine gun recoil can easily be controlled by not aiming down sights when firing and just angling the mouse down a bit. The other two are more or less meaningless since the game has the habit of giving you way too much ammo and money, even on the hardest difficulties. I think one problem with judging how useful each upgrade is is that the difficulty ramp as the game progresses is very uneven. Pistols are amazing at the beginning and quickly become useless by the mid-game, only to become useful again with anti-personnel rounds and research; ditto with machine guns. Frag grenades are initially pretty rare so you can't just spam them, but then they become common and easily purchased.
I’m playing the game for the first time and went in blindly with survivor. I learned my lesson about ammo during the Steinman fight... I swear he ate more bullets than the first big daddy.
I noticed how OP they made the heavy hitting weapons in Infinite. I could literally spend the whole game with either the hand cannon or the sniper rifle and the rocket launcher. Bioshock 1 and 2 had better weapon balance where you could find situations to use all of them.
Since you can upgrade all weapons it doesn't matter all that much but my pick is the crossbow mostly because of how strong the Incendiary bolts are which also glow red so are much easier to find and reuse compared to the steel-tipped bolts. Being fire damage they do 80% more damage if you use Human inferno tonics, trap bolt electrical wires also get 90% more damage from Electric Flesh tonics while also offering you full electric protection. Explosive buckshot is one of the best ammo types for killing Rosies as you can loot from them the components to craft them.
ive recently downloaded bioshock on my laptop and am pretty clueless of what to upgrade or not (im at fort frolic). this video helped a lot! thank you. Also, i personally love the shotgun myself!
I usually use the machine gun and shotgun the most. I don’t usually use the Crossbow unless I’m defend something or low on ammo. I also usually save the grenade launcher for big daddies. Maybe you could do a similar video for Plasmids/Vigors and Tonics/Gear.
From my personal view, the top 3 weapons for survival are: Honorable mention: Shotgun with electric buck. Number 3: Machine gun with either Iron piercing or Anti-personal. Number 2: Crossbow with Default round; also combo with Insect Swarm and Target Dummy. And number 1 is the Wrench with Wrench jockey 1 and 2, Wrench lurker 1 and 2, Damage research 1 and 2, Static discharge, and electro bolt 3.
That's why I was mentioning different types of ammo. Plus, this video was solely dedicated to the best upgrades to weapons that can actually be upgraded.
Crossbow with damage upgrade and chance that the bolts wont break it is my goto weapon using it with electrobolt. Being able to pick up the bolts allows me to save up on ammo that I find so that when I am in Daddy fights or being swarmed I have the ammo for more crowd control weapons thus saving me money.
It actually helped me. I learned I need to stock up on way more film and that I can get first-aid kits from hitting health stations with a wrench. Thx!
I liked the crossbow the most tbh they did work on the splicers and the big daddies, I remember I set up a hallway with 12 trap bolts and the big daddy ran through and and I shot him with a fire bolt and he died lmao
If you switch to your Plasmid’s and back to your weapons after firing a crossbow bolt it reload cancels and you can essentially double the rate of fire. It’s also very easy to kill a bouncer by baiting them to charge into/through a line of 7 trap bolts.
Pistol with damage upgrade and anti-personell rounds one-shots splicers. The Shotgun is good against everything, always upgrade. The Chemical Thrower has an ammo efficiency upgrade and quickly became my favourite weapon. *Fwoosh* and everything burns.
The wrench combined with stealth, +damage, speed, bloodlust and static discharge is pleasingly effective for me. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one here with a bit of pistol love. However I only upgraded pistol damage which works for a quick one two headshot. The clip upgrade only reduces reloads; as I remember it didn't increase round capacity and looked just plain ridiculous? I've learned to appreciate the value of camera research.
@@TheTrueCopyUniverse Yeah, you're right! I must have mis-spoke; what I think I meant to say is that it doesn't increase rate of fire. Before I found the crossbow I'd use the pistol for headshots but they're both slow once the splicers are onto you. The pistol damage upgrade was worthwhile but for me the capacity upgrade is better invested elsewhere; I'd rarely get off more than a few rounds before switching to shotgun, machine gun or else closing in fast with the wrench.
I only used the chemical thrower for one thing in survivor and it was to cheese big daddies with the electric gel. It usually took about 100 or maybe more ammo but it was always a stupidly easy takedown.
there is a trick u can do with the machine gun, if u quickly spam the fire button at around 7 clicks per second you have 100% less recoil, while the fully upgraded machine gun has around 50% less recoil. and yes its pretty much as fast, i test how long to empty a 40 bullets, by holding down the fire button it takes 7.2s and by spamming the fire button it takes around 7.5s. so the difference is minimal in speed but recoil wise its extreme
my favorite upgraded weapon was the shotgun cause i heard you can upgrade it to a semi-auto shotgun which is super badass and this is one of my favorite videos on this channel.
The Chemical thrower, I found, did quite well against Big Daddies, that is if you use electricity. The ammo consumption is a big downside though. However, if used only vs big daddies it can be workable in hard mode
Pistol is actually great if you want to conserve ammo. I did research subjects, but anti-personnel rounds and headshots will make short work of most splicers even on higher difficulties.
Personally, I love upgrading the chemical thrower after my grenade launcher and shotgun, especially on survivor, as it deals consistent damage. For instance , when I'm doing the protect little sister mission, I hack the flame thrower turret and cameras. Especially on my no damage survivor playthrough, you start to appreciate the chemical launcher more.
TheBioshockHub it is but it takes a lot of game knowledge to be able to do it( also don’t count the times that you must take damage, like in fort frolic, with Fontaine’s mind control, etc)
@@TheBioshockHub Well, you weren't kidding! Started a new playthrough on Hard mode, and the Shotgun, Launcher, and Wrench are probably my most used weapons!
Personality thinking that the crossbow is really great :) Used it alot in my playthroughs. I think I also used the pistol alot against the smaller enemies as it can get some damage with headshots
I was just thinking I should replay the bioshock series for like the 20th time. The crossbow with animation canceling is insane though, even for survivor difficulty it’s always my first choice weapon. I should do playthroughs with a single weapon only because that sounds really fun. Very entertaining video and could always use more bioshock content
I dunno. Playing on hard Fully upgraded revlover takes most splicers with one-two hits to the head with anti personal ammo. Had all splicers fully researched as they got introduced. Like lead heads in Fishieries, houndini in arcadia and such. Got much more millage with it than granade launcher or SMG
Certainly that's my experience too. I also use the Wrench A LOT with my physical upgrades: Damage, Speed, Wrench Lurker, Static Discharge, Bloodlust, and Chameleon. If I mess up the headshot I can usually smack them down with a wrench or three and if I take do a hit the static usually stuns em enough for me to finish the job.
I have only played on easy mode but I saw a walkthrough on how to kill Frank Fontaine and they suggested using the chemical thrower with the gel. It was very easy to kill him and they were not on the easy mode. So though I rarely use it, I always use it for Frank Fontaine. As for the rest, I tend to stick to the shot gun and the machine gun for the most part. I use the pistol but a lot less since i tend to run out of bullets. But I guess from the resident evil games, especially the first three, I developed I love for the shotgun which is why decided to use it and it worked. I do use the other weapons but less so
Crossbow is the best. The only issue with it is the reload time between shots. But it's a non-issue. When shooting with it, switch to plasmids then back to weapons (as quickly as possible). That makes the reload problem disappear. You can destroy a big daddy in less than 5 seconds like that.
@@TheBioshockHub i did it on an arcadian rosie on survivor and it took 8 arrows (6 if using incendiary bolts). I used fully upgraded crossbow tho. Under 20 seconds
@@TheBioshockHub i thought the swapping between plasmids and weapons method was common knowledge. Lol Another cool way of killing big daddies (unrelated to the video, sorry) that spends no ammo or eve hypos is using the bloodlust tonic, available at fort frolic u-invents onwards. (Save before starting the fight.) Wrench hit, Electro bolt, Wrench hit, Electro bolt... Rinse and repeat until he dies. Obviously, it's a lot faster if you've researched the big daddy and equip the Wrench Jockey and Damage Research tonics before doing this and have Electrobolt v3, but damn is it useful regardless. It may take anywhere between 15 seconds (if you have all the above) to a couple of minutes. But as long as you have bloodlust, the method is the same.
I originally played all 3 on xbox, But couldn't pass up the chance to play them all again with the dlc thanks to the collection being free on psn. I started bioshock 2 last night around 9 and beat by 4 in the morning with no deaths earning myself the trophy big brass balls. I was so into I didn't even remember if I had died or not until I got the trophy unlock. The drill was the most useful thing to me through the entirety of the playthrough. Though I also enjoy the speargun and anything with trap ammo.
The Crossbow is a Satisfying Weapon. One Shot and most of the Splicer dies, Bots getting desroyed easily and of Course Rosies and Bouncers are no match for this Weapon.
Yes shotgun is a beast, i especially love the rate of fire upgrade. Crossbow i really like with the damage upgrade. I think i love it so much cos it was my favourite weapon in BS 2 multiplayer. Together with the elephant gun. The elephant gun is my favourite weapon in the Bioshock series. With the scope or damage increase perk! They should have included it in the single player imo! I really like the weapon design in this game. Shotgun especially looks great. Much better loking than shotgun in Bioshock 2
Played bioshock again on survivor after 5 years because of this vid lol Heres my two cents on the latest playthrough. 1. Dont upgrade the pistol. Even with damage upgrade, it takes 2 to 3 headshots to kill splicers.. 2. The crossbow is grossly overpowered. No need for the damage upgrade. Headshots deal 10 times (wtf?) damage to splicers. All you need is the ammo saving upgrade. 3. Youre bingo on getting the upgrade for the G Launcher first at the Fisheries. The damage upgrade takes priority first because the last thing youll need is to get up close and personal with a Rosie on survivor difficulty. Getting melee'd by this beast will get you killed if your hp is less than 3/4. Also on that difficulty, they have aimbot lol. 4. When you get to arcadia, get the human inferno tonic asap. The heat seeking rpg on the launcher deals fire damage. It will really help you against the rosies in this area. 5. Security bulllseye is still king against the daddies, especially bouncers. The elite bouncers on fort frolic will take 3/4 of your life if they smack you. No matter how many health upgrades you get. 6. Always Save the Little Sisters. Its the only way you can get the Armored shell 2 tonic.. You need this if you want to do a continuous play through with no vita chambers
@@TheBioshockHub kinda forgot at times how easily you die if you screw up. Especially against Rosies. Was gonna go for a no-save continous run but stupidly stepped on a well-hidden Rosie mine during the last big daddy battle in Neptunes Bounty lol. They sometimes phase out of existence on some floor areas
One of the best things to kill a Rosie is another Rosie, the rivetgun is armor piercing so they do double damage to each other, whichever one wins gives you a dead Rosie and another nearly dead one.
The wrench is the worst weapon or one of the best weapons, depending on your gene tonic build. The Pistol sucks unless you can consistently headshot. It's one of the few weapons that are effective at long range, but the Crossbow is a better sniper weapon. An upgraded Chemical Thrower can substitute for Incinerate!, Electro Bolt, and Winter Blast, giving you more freedom with your plasmid selection. It's useful as a support and a Big Daddy killer, but not so much as a primary weapon. How great the Crossbow is depends on how good a sniper you are with non-hitscan weapons. Even if you're not a great sniper (e.g. me) it's still satisfying to get headshots. The primary ammo is also pretty cheap for its power. That said, it definitely isn't meant to be an anti-crowd weapon.
I have a love hate relationship with the shot gun, yeah the damage is there, but how long it takes to reload makes me want to to rip my hair out! I absolutely will not use it on a big daddy anymore because he runs up on you so quick. I don’t like the chemical that much, but it’s awesome for close range against the big daddy. . The upgraded pistol still doesn’t work great for me after it’s upgraded. Love the Grenade Launcher with the heat seeking rocket
1. Stack Sport Boost 1 and 2.
2. Acquire Wrench Jockey, Frozen Field and Bloodlust.
3. Break the game.
Can you stack wrench jockey 1 & 2
@@OneshotDeath662 yes
does frozen field add to base damage or post calculation?
Plus camouflage
damage research is nice too
I actually really like the chemical thrower on survivor difficulty. Electric Gel is a permanent stunlock as long as you have the ammo for it, even against Big Daddies.
It is also pretty useful on the final boss or if you are fighting a single target
Yeah I disagree with his opinion on the chem thrower, it’s pretty sick man
I like electric buck with the shotgun and the chemical flamethrower, as said. Electric shotgun stunlocks, I use electro bolt 3 to stun and get a chance to reload to EXPLOSIVE BUCK AFTER, and hes pretty much dead after that. Btw I'm talking about fighting big daddy.
Even against the final boss 😂
Not even fair for the Big Daddys.
The Grenade launcher is an absolute powerhouse of a weapon, but the TRUE best is the research camera. I mean sure it does no damage but it means the OP shotgun and Grenade launcher are more OP.
1) Shotgun
2) Crossbow
3) Grenade launcher
4) Machine Gun
5) Chemical Thrower
6)Wrench
7) Pistol
The crossbow kicks ass
Nostalgic Waves Sometimes I just use the wrong ammo type
If you build your character around the wrench it’s the best weapon
@@Shmaider I totally agree
@@Shmaider to best is crossbow you kill every splicer in survival with 1 shot you can even kill big daddy in 1sec
Chemical thrower + electric gel is a big daddy killer even on survivor. All weapons can be deadly used right,it's the beauty of bioshock that there are so many builds and play styles.
You know what? I completely forgot how good it is against the Big Daddies... How am I this dumb.
Haha, not dumb. Like I said there's so many ways to play. When I first played I never ran a wrench build but after using it it's as powerful as any weapon plus you end up with more cash than you can spend. Probably why I take a trip to rapture at least once a year.
@@danclifford1027 I need to figure out more strategies honestly.
Two quick side-notes and I apologize for them. If I sound a bit tired in this video, I was, so I'm sorry about that. And secondly, I won't be able to respond fully to comments until later tonight, as I won't be home until around 10:30 PM Central Standard Time. I'm so sorry for that.
Your videos are awesome and I now love the bioshock series can’t wait for the new game
@@toesniffer4954 I'm glad you enjoy the videos! It means a lot.
I mean the wrench doesn't have any upgrades BUT you can put some physical/combat tonics to make the wrench over powered :)
I know that's why I use wrench jockey 2 and one as well as stunning the splicers and I'm hitting them with my wrench to give extra damage Play the game and let me tell you not even a LEADhead splicer Survive that even if it wasn't shocked The wrench is pretty much an over power weapon with the right tools
Wrench jocky 1 and 2, armor shell 1 and 2, and blood lust = swinging for day.
I completely agree with your top three upgraded weapons. The shotgun is my go to. It has this power to it that you can feel with each shot! So much fun! I love it in BioShock 2 as well - with the Tesla upgrade, it is so electrifying! 😏👌🏻
Bioshock 2's Shotgun sounds like a cannon lol. So badass.
@@TheBioshockHub it's the boomstick
I'd rather they had proper electric buck rather than solid slugs in bio2
The pistol with anti-personnel rounds is basically an early game sniper rifle if you are headshot savvy like I am
True its devastating
Even in normal difficulty it gets power crept really quickly. By the end of the game it's not even worth it to use regular bullets. Only useful with anti personel rounds and even then I think it still takes a couple headshots
Replaying Bioshock currently, playing survival difficulty on the remastered version.
Gotta say the machine gun is decent, with both upgrades it's good. Only problem is there's never enough anti-personal rounds.
After fully researching all enemies it takes them down pretty quick (minus B-daddies)
Something you can do with the Crossbow and Grenade Launcher to absolute murder Big Daddies is animation cancel them by shooting and alternating between them one at a time. It cancel the delay between shots for both and stacks insane damage.
Second this. I’ve beaten survivor difficulty many times and the crossbow is always my first choice weapon because of animation canceling. The damage is insane and headshots aren’t hard to hit for basic splicers and it tears through Big Daddy’s
This game scared the shit out of me at the beginning. The same feeling I got from the original Resident Evil from Playstation One. I literally scope out every hallway & every room. I look before I leap. There is some jump scares they programmed into the game you can't avoid. If they want you to be scared they scare you.
Great game. Just starting out.
I felt the exact same way, I restarted it after beating Atomic Heart and now it's not as scary as it was at first but now I can actually enjoy it without want to flinch at everything 😂
Crossbow needs to be much higher on the list due to how well it pairs with electrobolt, otherwise I agree with the list
In hard difficult:
1 - crossbow (very satisfying do hs)
2 chemical tower (more powerful than plasmids)
Combo crossbow + ice is insane!
Worst: pistol and machine gun
I need to try that combo! Thanks for the heads up.
I think that the consume less ammo version of the chemical thrower is amazing. You can kill a big daddy with like 70 electric gel
Is it good on the hardest difficulty I’m tryna find a set up that is gonna get me through it a lot easier cuz man I’m not tryna rage
@@Carlos-ss5hm Yes Yes it is
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Chemical Thrower is S tier vs Big Daddy and Frank Fontaine: just use electric gel and stun lock them while doing massive damages. Vs everything else it's B tier.
Once I got the cross bow it was all I used. Since there was no sniper which the type of gun I use in every game the cross how was a nice addition and I used it as my primary weapon for the rest of the game. Headshots for days.
A headshot to any human enemy with the crossbow is always an instant kill, and I personally put crossbow above machinegun even tho if you feather the tommy it's basically a lot more efficient and versatile, see with the crossbow you can switch back to plasmid and back to crossbow to skip the pump essentially making it near semi auto, I use this paired with the incendiary bolts to melt them tin cans....
You can get an upgrade for the chemical thrower that insanely drops the ammo consumption. Try it and reevaluate it’s usefulness.
Huge bioshock fan I just found your channel amazing stuff man!
The Discord Notification helped. It was a good idea to do that
TH-cam can be so messed up sometimes.
When i was fighting Fontaine, i used the chemical throwers electric gel and when he is not electric-immune, it absolutely obliterated Fontaine. So for higher health bosses and big daddies, that would be my go to.
Least to best -
2:39 Chemical Thrower
3:44 Crossbow
5:19 Machine Gun
6:57 Grenade Launcher
8:52 Shotgun ✨✨✨
the crossbow and shotgun are the best, the crossbow almost or one shots most enemys (head shot) and the shotgun with eletric plasmid (or bees) is soo useful
I would say the shotgun
Well, it's definitely one of the top ones.
Yup
Chem Thrower with consumption upgrade + Crossbow with damage and bolt saving upgrade are my key weapons..
Chem thrower freeze + xbow headshot = guaranteed kill but no loot
Chem thrower electric + xbow headshot = guaranteed kill but u need to be faster
electric gel + trap bolt + electric flesh 1 and 2 = HUGE DAMAGE to big daddies and immunity to trap bolts and electric damage
Incendiary bolts + human inferno 1 and 2 tonics = HUGE Damage to anything..
Also saves me valuable plasmid slots (no need for electro bolt, incinerate and winter blast).
BTW You can open electric locks, disable machinery and melt blocking ice with the chem thrower.
Also try lighting bottles of booze with the chem thrower and turn them to molotovs to be tossed with telekinesis :)
For me, I would personally order it as:
A Tier: Grenade Launcher damage, shotgun increased damage, shotgun semi auto, pistol damage, machine gun damage. All of these directly increase your effectiveness, no matter how many or few enemies you're fighting.
B Tier: Pistol 24 round mag, crossbow damage, grenade launcher immunity, chemical thrower range. These are situationally useful.
C Tier: Machine gun recoil reduction, chemical thrower ammo consumption, crossbow break chance. Machine gun recoil can easily be controlled by not aiming down sights when firing and just angling the mouse down a bit. The other two are more or less meaningless since the game has the habit of giving you way too much ammo and money, even on the hardest difficulties.
I think one problem with judging how useful each upgrade is is that the difficulty ramp as the game progresses is very uneven. Pistols are amazing at the beginning and quickly become useless by the mid-game, only to become useful again with anti-personnel rounds and research; ditto with machine guns. Frag grenades are initially pretty rare so you can't just spam them, but then they become common and easily purchased.
I’m playing the game for the first time and went in blindly with survivor. I learned my lesson about ammo during the Steinman fight... I swear he ate more bullets than the first big daddy.
I noticed how OP they made the heavy hitting weapons in Infinite. I could literally spend the whole game with either the hand cannon or the sniper rifle and the rocket launcher. Bioshock 1 and 2 had better weapon balance where you could find situations to use all of them.
I Personally Go With a Fully Upgraded Shotgun
That's why it was my #1 spot :)
Since you can upgrade all weapons it doesn't matter all that much but my pick is the crossbow mostly because of how strong the Incendiary bolts are which also glow red so are much easier to find and reuse compared to the steel-tipped bolts.
Being fire damage they do 80% more damage if you use Human inferno tonics, trap bolt electrical wires also get 90% more damage from Electric Flesh tonics while also offering you full electric protection.
Explosive buckshot is one of the best ammo types for killing Rosies as you can loot from them the components to craft them.
ive recently downloaded bioshock on my laptop and am pretty clueless of what to upgrade or not (im at fort frolic). this video helped a lot! thank you. Also, i personally love the shotgun myself!
I'm glad I could help! Enjoy your playthrough my friend!
I usually use the machine gun and shotgun the most.
I don’t usually use the Crossbow unless I’m defend something or low on ammo.
I also usually save the grenade launcher for big daddies.
Maybe you could do a similar video for Plasmids/Vigors and Tonics/Gear.
That video is in the works. And another useful battle to use the GL in is the Fontaine fight with your traps.
Just got the Bioshock Collection for my Switch lite and am loving the 3 games and your content. liked and subbed!
Another great video. Can't wait for the best upgraded weapons in Bioshock 2 and Bioshock Infinite.
Thank you
From my personal view, the top 3 weapons for survival are: Honorable mention: Shotgun with electric buck. Number 3: Machine gun with either Iron piercing or Anti-personal. Number 2: Crossbow with Default round; also combo with Insect Swarm and Target Dummy. And number 1 is the Wrench with Wrench jockey 1 and 2, Wrench lurker 1 and 2, Damage research 1 and 2, Static discharge, and electro bolt 3.
That's why I was mentioning different types of ammo. Plus, this video was solely dedicated to the best upgrades to weapons that can actually be upgraded.
TheBioshockHub Fair enough, and you're right
Crossbow with damage upgrade and chance that the bolts wont break it is my goto weapon using it with electrobolt. Being able to pick up the bolts allows me to save up on ammo that I find so that when I am in Daddy fights or being swarmed I have the ammo for more crowd control weapons thus saving me money.
1. wrench
2. shotgun
3. machine gun
4. rocket launcher
5. chemical thrower
6. crossbow
7. pistol
The wrench is possible the best. Wrench jockey 2 and bloodlust makes it op. Survivor mode on ng+ with these tonics make the game super easy.
Along with Wrench Lurker, Sport Boost, the chameleon tonic, and the 50% boost from researching Bouncers.
Great video even thought i havent watched it yet
I hope you enjoy the rest lol
It actually helped me. I learned I need to stock up on way more film and that I can get first-aid kits from hitting health stations with a wrench. Thx!
@@LilCuppyCup Glad I could help!
Chemical thrower serves its purpose when the plasmids go haywire later on after you start to break the mind control from fontaine
Anyone else notice that the pistol is actually a Webley Mk VI .45 which was used in WW1 by the British?
all revolvers in bioshock are break action
I liked the crossbow the most tbh they did work on the splicers and the big daddies, I remember I set up a hallway with 12 trap bolts and the big daddy ran through and and I shot him with a fire bolt and he died lmao
If you switch to your Plasmid’s and back to your weapons after firing a crossbow bolt it reload cancels and you can essentially double the rate of fire. It’s also very easy to kill a bouncer by baiting them to charge into/through a line of 7 trap bolts.
I forget which tonic increases fire damage, but that with the napalm from the thrower is mean dps.
Pistol with damage upgrade and anti-personell rounds one-shots splicers.
The Shotgun is good against everything, always upgrade.
The Chemical Thrower has an ammo efficiency upgrade and quickly became my favourite weapon. *Fwoosh* and everything burns.
The wrench combined with stealth, +damage, speed, bloodlust and static discharge is pleasingly effective for me. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one here with a bit of pistol love. However I only upgraded pistol damage which works for a quick one two headshot. The clip upgrade only reduces reloads; as I remember it didn't increase round capacity and looked just plain ridiculous? I've learned to appreciate the value of camera research.
Weird, because I'm sure it quadrupled your ammo capacity from 6 bullets to 24.
@@TheTrueCopyUniverse Yeah, you're right! I must have mis-spoke; what I think I meant to say is that it doesn't increase rate of fire.
Before I found the crossbow I'd use the pistol for headshots but they're both slow once the splicers are onto you. The pistol damage upgrade was worthwhile but for me the capacity upgrade is better invested elsewhere; I'd rarely get off more than a few rounds before switching to shotgun, machine gun or else closing in fast with the wrench.
I only used the chemical thrower for one thing in survivor and it was to cheese big daddies with the electric gel. It usually took about 100 or maybe more ammo but it was always a stupidly easy takedown.
I’m playing this game on survivor mode it’s so much fun playing the hardest difficulty.
there is a trick u can do with the machine gun, if u quickly spam the fire button at around 7 clicks per second you have 100% less recoil, while the fully upgraded machine gun has around 50% less recoil. and yes its pretty much as fast, i test how long to empty a 40 bullets, by holding down the fire button it takes 7.2s and by spamming the fire button it takes around 7.5s. so the difference is minimal in speed but recoil wise its extreme
my favorite upgraded weapon was the shotgun cause i heard you can upgrade it to a semi-auto shotgun which is super badass and this is one of my favorite videos on this channel.
I have done Bioshock without any weapon upgrades. I found it challenging because upgrades are good
The bow is really useful on really any difficulty, at least on Xbox. You can switch from plasmid to bow quickly to get rid of the cooldown time.
Early Hard Mode, Pistol does one shot an enemy; if it is a headshot, and they have no helmet. So it can be a bit helpful sneaking.
A crossbow head shot on any difficulty will instantly kill a Splicer. Personal fav
AWESOME VIDEO! And I completely agree with your list. So when will you do Bioshock 2's upgraded weapons?
I'm glad you enjoyed!
So when will you do Bioshock 2's upgraded weapons?
The Chemical thrower, I found, did quite well against Big Daddies, that is if you use electricity. The ammo consumption is a big downside though. However, if used only vs big daddies it can be workable in hard mode
the best advice I got from this video is that I can and should do more snappy snappy with enemies
Did you say expecially? 😂Thanks for the vid! 🙏
Pistol is actually great if you want to conserve ammo. I did research subjects, but anti-personnel rounds and headshots will make short work of most splicers even on higher difficulties.
Maybe I'm just really awful with the pistol. I feel I might be too trigger happy and just empty all of the rounds.
@@TheBioshockHub Just remember the ol one two. Shock, headshot. You were correct about big daddies, pistol is useless against them.
Personally, I love upgrading the chemical thrower after my grenade launcher and shotgun, especially on survivor, as it deals consistent damage. For instance , when I'm doing the protect little sister mission, I hack the flame thrower turret and cameras. Especially on my no damage survivor playthrough, you start to appreciate the chemical launcher more.
I think I just haven't personally used the Chem Thrower enough to fully experience how useful it is. I need to try that on a future playthrough.
TheBioshockHub you should definitely try a no damage run in the future
@@yousefel-jurf2953 I've never thought of that one before. I think it'd be near impossible.
TheBioshockHub it is but it takes a lot of game knowledge to be able to do it( also don’t count the times that you must take damage, like in fort frolic, with Fontaine’s mind control, etc)
@@yousefel-jurf2953 I'll definitely give it an attempt! Thanks for the idea
Huh, never really used the shotgun in my playthroughs... guess I know what I'm using next time!
Once you get it fully upgraded, you're in for a treat.
@@TheBioshockHub Well, you weren't kidding! Started a new playthrough on Hard mode, and the Shotgun, Launcher, and Wrench are probably my most used weapons!
@@FrahdChikun They're so damn useful.
Levels are tight enough that the MG and shotty are just easy kings of damahe
My favorite weapon the shotgun
Personality thinking that the crossbow is really great :) Used it alot in my playthroughs. I think I also used the pistol alot against the smaller enemies as it can get some damage with headshots
I love using it, it's a fun weapon. Just on the harder difficulties it becomes frustrating.
@@TheBioshockHub yeah I understand :)
TechFlip I don’t headshot very well. I just aim for the biggest part where my bullets can reach
@@dankcatsmemes9219 That's okey, that works too :)
Just subbed, as I finish the first one, second, minervas den and I'm on infinite right now, its like my 8th playthrough on all of them
I was just thinking I should replay the bioshock series for like the 20th time. The crossbow with animation canceling is insane though, even for survivor difficulty it’s always my first choice weapon. I should do playthroughs with a single weapon only because that sounds really fun. Very entertaining video and could always use more bioshock content
Honestly, once I get the shotgun, any other guns I use are just got the fun of it. I always upgrade it instantly, and it's just too damn good.
At 1:50 can we climb that pipe? Is there some secret at the top?
Holy!! I just discovered you can break the medic thing on walls to get a med kit
I dunno. Playing on hard
Fully upgraded revlover takes most splicers with one-two hits to the head with anti personal ammo.
Had all splicers fully researched as they got introduced.
Like lead heads in Fishieries, houndini in arcadia and such.
Got much more millage with it than granade launcher or SMG
I'm just guessing I didn't give it much of a chance when I did my Survivor playthrough. I think I will next time.
Certainly that's my experience too. I also use the Wrench A LOT with my physical upgrades: Damage, Speed, Wrench Lurker, Static Discharge, Bloodlust, and Chameleon. If I mess up the headshot I can usually smack them down with a wrench or three and if I take do a hit the static usually stuns em enough for me to finish the job.
I have only played on easy mode but I saw a walkthrough on how to kill Frank Fontaine and they suggested using the chemical thrower with the gel. It was very easy to kill him and they were not on the easy mode. So though I rarely use it, I always use it for Frank Fontaine. As for the rest, I tend to stick to the shot gun and the machine gun for the most part. I use the pistol but a lot less since i tend to run out of bullets. But I guess from the resident evil games, especially the first three, I developed I love for the shotgun which is why decided to use it and it worked. I do use the other weapons but less so
Doesn't the chemical thrower's upgraded address the range and ammo consumption?
With the right tonics and plasmids, the wrench build is a fun way to play as well.
For sure, I was just focusing on the weapons you can upgrade throughout the game.
Crossbow is the best. The only issue with it is the reload time between shots. But it's a non-issue. When shooting with it, switch to plasmids then back to weapons (as quickly as possible). That makes the reload problem disappear. You can destroy a big daddy in less than 5 seconds like that.
I need to definitely try that. How is it on the higher difficulties?
@@TheBioshockHub i did it on an arcadian rosie on survivor and it took 8 arrows (6 if using incendiary bolts). I used fully upgraded crossbow tho. Under 20 seconds
@@babbisp1 Holy shit.
@@TheBioshockHub i thought the swapping between plasmids and weapons method was common knowledge. Lol
Another cool way of killing big daddies (unrelated to the video, sorry) that spends no ammo or eve hypos is using the bloodlust tonic, available at fort frolic u-invents onwards. (Save before starting the fight.) Wrench hit, Electro bolt, Wrench hit, Electro bolt...
Rinse and repeat until he dies.
Obviously, it's a lot faster if you've researched the big daddy and equip the Wrench Jockey and Damage Research tonics before doing this and have Electrobolt v3, but damn is it useful regardless. It may take anywhere between 15 seconds (if you have all the above) to a couple of minutes. But as long as you have bloodlust, the method is the same.
I originally played all 3 on xbox, But couldn't pass up the chance to play them all again with the dlc thanks to the collection being free on psn. I started bioshock 2 last night around 9 and beat by 4 in the morning with no deaths earning myself the trophy big brass balls. I was so into I didn't even remember if I had died or not until I got the trophy unlock. The drill was the most useful thing to me through the entirety of the playthrough. Though I also enjoy the speargun and anything with trap ammo.
It's awesome to hear that you replayed them :)
1:Chemical thrower
2:Shotgun
3:Pistol
4:Grenade launcher
5:Tommy gun
6:Crossbow
Not because there good bur I think there fun
Absolutely amazing video, Erik! And personally I would say shotgun.
Thank you for the kind words. And the Shotty is the way to go.
Chem thrower with its upgrades and electric gel shreds anything aside from shocking thuggish splicers
basically i love the all the weapons in the game but my favorite favorite weapon is the shotgun and Erik thank you for the video
Shot gun number one huh?....well I'll never use it lol. Will stick to cross bow and smg
For Survivor Difficulty
1.Wrench
2.Shotgun
3.Crossbow
4.Machine Gun
5.Chemical Thrower
6.Pistol
7.Frag Launcher
After you shoot crossbow switch to plasmid and back to cross bow you skip the animation and can shoot again (like the csgo sniper)
The Crossbow is a Satisfying Weapon. One Shot and most of the Splicer dies, Bots getting desroyed easily and of Course Rosies and Bouncers are no match for this Weapon.
The submachine gun and the shotgun are my go to weapons
I think crossbow incendiary is by far the best most fun. Even on survivor. But I think all the weapons are viable on any difficulty.
Yes shotgun is a beast, i especially love the rate of fire upgrade. Crossbow i really like with the damage upgrade. I think i love it so much cos it was my favourite weapon in BS 2 multiplayer. Together with the elephant gun. The elephant gun is my favourite weapon in the Bioshock series. With the scope or damage increase perk! They should have included it in the single player imo! I really like the weapon design in this game. Shotgun especially looks great. Much better loking than shotgun in Bioshock 2
Good choices. I pretty much only use the Shotgun and Machine gun for most of the game. Guess I'm just lazy, ha!
Not lazy, tactical lmao.
Even if you can't upgrade it I still love the rench because you don't need ammo
Played bioshock again on survivor after 5 years because of this vid lol
Heres my two cents on the latest playthrough.
1. Dont upgrade the pistol. Even with damage upgrade, it takes 2 to 3 headshots to kill splicers..
2. The crossbow is grossly overpowered. No need for the damage upgrade. Headshots deal 10 times (wtf?) damage to splicers. All you need is the ammo saving upgrade.
3. Youre bingo on getting the upgrade for the G Launcher first at the Fisheries. The damage upgrade takes priority first because the last thing youll need is to get up close and personal with a Rosie on survivor difficulty. Getting melee'd by this beast will get you killed if your hp is less than 3/4. Also on that difficulty, they have aimbot lol.
4. When you get to arcadia, get the human inferno tonic asap. The heat seeking rpg on the launcher deals fire damage. It will really help you against the rosies in this area.
5. Security bulllseye is still king against the daddies, especially bouncers. The elite bouncers on fort frolic will take 3/4 of your life if they smack you. No matter how many health upgrades you get.
6. Always Save the Little Sisters. Its the only way you can get the Armored shell 2 tonic.. You need this if you want to do a continuous play through with no vita chambers
How did your Playthrough go?
@@TheBioshockHub kinda forgot at times how easily you die if you screw up. Especially against Rosies. Was gonna go for a no-save continous run but stupidly stepped on a well-hidden Rosie mine during the last big daddy battle in Neptunes Bounty lol. They sometimes phase out of existence on some floor areas
@@oneilpasadilla351 I would have been pissed about that Mine... I probably would've just rage quit that playthrough lol.
@@TheBioshockHub Funny thing is, thats exactly what i did haha
One of the best things to kill a Rosie is another Rosie, the rivetgun is armor piercing so they do double damage to each other, whichever one wins gives you a dead Rosie and another nearly dead one.
i rly wish wrench was upgradable but the tonics make it op asf
I really don't have a favorite weapon but my favorite combo is Winter Blast and the Shotgun. Useful too save ammo and well fun just because.
I can't remember if it's BIoshock or Bioshock 2 where if you kill a frozen enemy, you lose the loot.
@@TheBioshockHub Might be both honestly. Have not played either game in a while.
@@combatking20 I genuinely can't remember. This is bothering me lol.
combatking20 Yeah
The upgraded machine gun from the first bioshock was the absolute best 😁✌
Appreciate it big dog
Crossbow is top tier. Those trap bolts WRECK big daddy's ( at least they did for me )
Sup dark angel.
@@captaintitusultramarine Ultramarine
I would’ve puttin the chemical thrower in 3rd place IF it hadn’t drain all of my ammo for it the little range and reload speed is fine tho to me.
You can never go wrong with explosive buckshot tbh
It's such a good alternate ammo type.
@@TheBioshockHub I appreciate your vids man keep up the good work bro!
@@lyricofmind865 And I appreciate your support my friend
The wrench is the worst weapon or one of the best weapons, depending on your gene tonic build.
The Pistol sucks unless you can consistently headshot. It's one of the few weapons that are effective at long range, but the Crossbow is a better sniper weapon.
An upgraded Chemical Thrower can substitute for Incinerate!, Electro Bolt, and Winter Blast, giving you more freedom with your plasmid selection. It's useful as a support and a Big Daddy killer, but not so much as a primary weapon.
How great the Crossbow is depends on how good a sniper you are with non-hitscan weapons. Even if you're not a great sniper (e.g. me) it's still satisfying to get headshots. The primary ammo is also pretty cheap for its power. That said, it definitely isn't meant to be an anti-crowd weapon.
I have a love hate relationship with the shot gun, yeah the damage is there, but how long it takes to reload makes me want to to rip my hair out! I absolutely will not use it on a big daddy anymore because he runs up on you so quick. I don’t like the chemical that much, but it’s awesome for close range against the big daddy. . The upgraded pistol still doesn’t work great for me after it’s upgraded. Love the Grenade Launcher with the heat seeking rocket